All roads lead to this moment w/ Veronika Slowikowska

Summary

Emergency Intercom Podcast Summary

Episode: All roads lead to this moment w/ Veronika Slowikowska
Hosts: Enya Umanzor, Drew Phillips
Guest: Veronika Slowikowska
Date: February 13, 2026

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Overview

In this lively and hilarious episode of Emergency Intercom, Enya and Drew are joined by comedian, actress, and current Saturday Night Live cast member Veronika Slowikowska. From grappling with age anxiety, cultural differences, and public mishaps to the chaos and thrill of live comedy on SNL, the conversation weaves through pop culture nostalgia, personal growth, and riotous tangents. The group also dives into childhood memories, family quirks, food obsessions, and the journey of carving out your own space in art and comedy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Name Struggles and Pop Culture Tangents

• Veronika discusses the frequent mispronunciations of her name.
  • Joke about possibly changing her name to “Is Cool.”
  • [03:31] "Sometimes wish I just did change my name to Is Cool, because I feel like you..." – Veronika
• Emma Stone’s name coming up as “Emily Stone” on Letterboxd, leading to a discussion about Hollywood naming conventions.
  • [03:47] “Do you guys know this Emma Stone is now going by Emily Stone?” – Veronika

2. Age and Generational Differences

• The hosts and Veronika joke about their ages, perceptions, and generational divides.
  • [05:23] "Unironically, though, I did think you were, like... 22, 24." – Host
  • [05:36] "No, thank you and no work done." – Veronika
  • Hosts riff on how the entertainment industry treats age differently for men and women.

3. Becoming an American & SNL’s Wild Ride

• Veronika talks about her recent move from Canada to the US, getting her green card, and working on SNL.
  • [09:40] “It only makes me laugh... I would argue that this cast, to me, has some of like, the craziest bangers. Like, you and Jane alone...” – Host
  • [10:04] “Like, dressing room. And it’s... We called it the vortex.” – Veronika
• The breakneck pace and unpredictability of working at SNL.
  • [11:36] "You don’t even have time to think...the whole show is like a living organism." – Veronika
  • Describes multitasking: writing, acting, picking wigs, sets, and sometimes self-directing.
  • [12:12] “I feel like I’m in school, crazy school. But then... we happen to go live in front of millions of people.” – Veronika

4. Memorable On-Air Moments & Dealing with Live Mishaps

• Veronika shares a story about a costume malfunction during a live SNL performance with Sabrina Carpenter.
  • [16:30] “You can kind of see my insecurity in my eyes, but I just kept going...” – Veronika
• Everyone agrees that live mishaps can make performances more entertaining and authentic.

5. Comedy Roots, Musical Theater, and Subculture Nostalgia

• Veronika’s journey from small-town Ontario and musical theater to TV comedy.
  • [19:21] “I went to school for musical theater, which is, like, I think, so obvious when you find that out.” – Veronika
• Group reminisces about the golden age of subcultural cartoons (Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Smiling Friends) and how fandom can both elevate and overwhelm a show.
  • [21:35] “Any subculture that ended up in Spencer’s and Hot Topic...the fandom ruined it.” – Host

6. Pop Culture Connections & Friend Circles

• Veronika connects “all roads lead to this moment” to how friend circles intertwine in their creative worlds.
  • [32:18] “I mean, all roads lead to this moment, in a real way. In a real way.” – Veronika
• Connections to artists like Zach Villere, Devin Lee Carlson, Ricky Thompson.

7. Food, Vices, and Cultural Oddities

• Enthusiastic debate over regional foods: Tim Hortons, Skyline Chili, and strange American vs. Canadian snacks.
  • [34:53] “Tim Bits. Justin Bieber did a collab with them...they were called Tim Beads.” – Veronika
  • [37:28] Detailed description of Skyline Chili (“it’s really crazy...that’s a good ton of cheddar cheese on top”).
• The gang shares food rituals, odd comfort foods, and cultural food surprises when traveling.

8. Parents on Social Media

• Hilarious tales of their parents’ social media misadventures, including boomer Facebook content and accidental cringe posts.
  • [42:57] “My dad is one of those people who like...all in Spanish.” – Host
  • [44:28] “My dad got banned off Instagram. I don’t know how you get banned off Instagram.” – Kai

9. Coming of Age: Shame, Hair, and Growing Up

• Veronika tells an unfiltered story about not realizing you could or should shave as a teen, and discovering it only after a public summer with friends.
  • [50:33] “That was how I discovered I could shave my pubes. Don’t have to. Could. And no. But it was like, no. I straight up, like, just didn’t know.” – Veronika
• Discussion broadens to shame, guilt, and body hair acceptance.

10. Drinking, Weed, and Social Scenes

• The crews’ substance habits – weed versus alcohol, and the pressure to socialize as young adults in creative circles.
  • [55:20] “No, I like, I'm like a casual drinker. Question mark...But I'll smoke mad weed. Like I don't give a fuck.” – Host
  • Drinking and afterparties at SNL; Kenan Thompson sometimes attending.
  • [59:17] "Kenan specifically does go sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah." – Veronika

11. Family, Siblings, and Kids

• Veronika, the hosts, and Kai share their family structures, differences with siblings, and musings on wanting (or not wanting) kids.
  • [61:08] "Are you guys youngest, oldest, middle?" – Veronika
  • [62:49] “I love to like ruin this tight little body. Solid core. I went to solid core twice, and we can tell.” – Veronika (joking about working out and potential pregnancy)

12. Aging, Life Timelines, and Creative Careers

• Honest discussion about the anxieties of aging, especially in creative fields, and revelations that “it’s never too late.”
  • [67:35] “That's one thing I learned...I was like, no, there's actually a million [shots].” – Veronika
  • Comedy and the creative path causing life milestones to happen “10 years later” compared to friends in “normal” careers.
  • [68:49] “Elder Gen Alpha is really funny. I need to give you your flowers.” – Drew

13. The Internet, Mishaps, and Cancel Culture Moments

• Joking about famous influencer mishaps, like the Dolan Twins’ wildfires post and Logan Paul's infamous missteps.
  • [70:47] “The clouds are crazy. The sunset is gorgeous. Yes. Mighty people were dying.” – Host
• Hosts tease having “raw footage” of Logan Paul and recollect being misidentified as drug users by other YouTubers.
  • [75:18] “David Dobrik said that he thought I was on ketamine.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On SNL's Chaos:
  • “The whole show is like a living organism, and you just have to let go completely and be totally fine with whatever outcome.” – Veronika [11:36]
• On Being a Woman in Entertainment:
  • “For women in entertainment, you have to go bald at one point. You have to shave your head, and then you get taken dead serious.” – Host [07:07]
• On Mishaps Feeding Authenticity:
  • “I just kept going...and it was, like, so fun. ... That was a moment where I could have gone to my room and cried that it didn’t go perfect. But that’s why I signed up for this. It’s live.” – Veronika [16:30]
• On Growing Up:
  • “I was very shy until, like, grade seven... I would just, like, she would speak for me. ... And then I, like, sang at the talent show and—” – Veronika [48:04]
• On Creative Careers:
  • “Everything that happens to your friends that are choosing normal careers happens to you—but like 10 years later.” – Drew [68:01]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Insight | |-----------|-----------------| | 02:24 | Veronika Joins, Name Chat, Branding Jokes | | 05:23 | Age Reveal & Commentary on Age in Showbiz | | 09:40 | SNL Experience: "The Vortex" and Work Flow | | 16:30 | On-Air Mishaps: SNL Costume Malfunction Story | | 19:21 | Musical Theater Roots, Small Town to Stage | | 21:35 | Subculture Nostalgia: Adventure Time/Cartoons | | 32:18 | "All roads lead to this moment": Serendipity in Friend Circles | | 34:53 | Tim Hortons, Food Rituals, Canadian-American Differences | | 42:57 | Parents' Social Media Foibles, Generational Divide | | 50:33 | Coming of Age & Body Hair "Eureka!" Moment | | 55:20 | Vices: Drinking, Weed, and the Creative Life | | 59:17 | Inside SNL Afterparties & Meeting Troye Sivan | | 61:08 | Siblings, Family, and the Kid Question | | 67:35 | Aging, Anxiety, and the Freedom of "More Than One Shot" | | 70:47 | Internet Mishaps: Influencer Scandals & Logan Paul | | 75:18 | YouTubers & Drug Jokes, Logan Paul Vlogging Story |

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Media and Recommendations Shared

• Nirvana the Band the Movie
  • “Haven’t seen it, but I’m taking your word for it. It’s gonna be amazing.” – Veronika [80:40]
• Survivor Season 50
  • “I’m Survivor pilled.” – Kai [80:53]
• Saturday Night Live (SNL)
  • Featured throughout; highlighted by Veronika as a formative, ongoing experience.
• Cartoons & Shows Discussed:
  • Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Smiling Friends, Insecure

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Final Thoughts

This episode captures the essence of Emergency Intercom: poignant, irreverent, and uncensored. It offers a snapshot of modern creative chaos — from SNL’s breakneck demands to the wild world of internet fame, the bittersweetness of aging, chosen family, and the joy in every live mishap.

“There’s actually a million [shots]. Even if I screw up, whatever I’m doing now, I’ll figure it out again.”
– Veronika Slowikowska [67:35]

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Transcript

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[Host]

This episode of Emergency Intercom we are here with somebody super special. Hello.

[Veronica]

Hi everybody. It's Veronica and I'm going to help you guys slowly. Koska.

[Host]

Yeah, I know.

[Veronica]

It's always that. It's always this.

[Host]

Veronica.

[Veronica]

Yes. Or Veronika. So.

[Kai]

Come on, Katia.

[Host]

I know I was it's up that.

[Kai]

The only thing that came to my.

[Host]

Head was Kasia from Drag Race. Yeah, like that's the only like Russian person I could think of. Truly.

[Kai]

Wait My first question.

[Host]

My bad, my bad.

[Veronica]

It was the same. It's the same. Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

Go crazy. In the comments, I'm like, get her ass.

[Kai]

Get her.

[Veronica]

I'm kidding.

[Kai]

So I have, like, a question right off the bat. Okay, so your last name is. Is Cool. Where is.

[Veronica]

Where's that from?

[Kai]

Yeah, Canada.

[Veronica]

Boots.

[Kai]

Okay. Canada.

[Host]

Wait, was that the thing you were saying?

[Drew]

That's what you were preparing before you got here?

[Host]

I came in and he preps me and guy goes, okay. And yakai, I'm going to do this thing, like, and just sit with it.

[Kai]

I had it, like, written down.

[Host]

No, I love that.

[Veronica]

No, it's. But so I sometimes wish I just did change my name to Is Cool because I feel like also you. Do you guys know this Emma Stone is now going by Emily Stone?

[Host]

Oh.

[Kai]

Oh, yes.

[Veronica]

Fact check me.

[Drew]

I'll fact check that.

[Veronica]

Literally, like, because I saw things like Emily Stone, like, on like, letterboxd or whatever.

[Kai]

And whoa.

[Veronica]

Yeah.

[Kai]

So now I wonder what the tea is.

[Host]

So, okay. So now there's free range for Emma Stone.

[Veronica]

Well, I think it's the star. Somebody could come in a name, right? Like before when she was coming up, I think, like, you had to, like, choose a name that is like, wasn't taken.

[Host]

Also. I think I heard that. Like, I heard that. Like, literally, when you're signing up for. What's it called?

[Veronica]

Yes. An agent or something.

[Host]

Like sad and shit. SAG and everything is Sagittarius. But, like, you can't. Some shit about names. It literally sounded like the fake thing about, like, phone numbers. Like, because I guess we ran out of phone numbers. And then like, that's why they change area codes. But I'm like, people die. People die. People die. Get rid of the names. Like, how is Emma Stone actually?

[Kai]

And where are the bodies buried?

[Host]

Shut the fuck up.

[Kai]

No.

[Host]

In Central Park.

[Veronica]

I'm gonna die in this house. What's that song?

[Host]

I think I'm gonna die in this house.

[Kai]

Wait, so that means you should be Emma Stone.

[Host]

I know. You could take that spot.

[Veronica]

Yes. Ah, Begonia. It's incredible to work on the movie. You guys are. Wait, I actually. You guys are like 25, right?

[Kai]

I'm 14.

[Veronica]

Okay.

[Kai]

Wait, no, no, I'm 60. Fuck, I'm 65. I'm actually 65.

[Host]

Fuck. Fuck. No, I'm 20. I just turned 27.

[Kai]

Okay.

[Host]

Okay. Love, love, love.

[Kai]

28 in like two weeks.

[Veronica]

Oh, my God.

[Kai]

It's crazy.

[Host]

What's.

[Kai]

So I have a month left to live. It's really.

[Veronica]

It's really crazy. 28.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

Oh, my God. Well, how old do you think I am? I think I already maybe told you guys.

[Host]

Yeah, you kind of came in.

[Veronica]

I know, I know.

[Kai]

Old as you're 17.

[Veronica]

It's incredible being 17.

[Host]

17 again, unironically, though, I did think you were, like. I thought you were 22, 24. Oh, thank you. So, like, I think I saw, like, your birthday post for your 30th, and I was like, I know.

[Veronica]

No, thank you and no work done.

[Host]

A rarity for white women. No, you're really. You're literally breaking down walls because you look gorgeous. Thank you. Enough with the third. Like, 30 is not old. I can't wait to be 30 because I feel like 30.

[Drew]

Are you talking about for the first three years of the podcast, I was like, 27, 28. And you said that I was unk.

[Host]

Okay, listen. Notice how I'm saying women in their thirt are hot.

[Veronica]

Girls and Grays.

[Drew]

2008, actually.

[Veronica]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Drew]

When was the financial 2012. Yeah. Mine was whenever the recession hit.

[Kai]

I think what's crazy is there's kids in the NBA right now that were born in 2007, by the way. Just fun.

[Host]

I'm pretty sure all of Cat's Eye was born, like, post recession.

[Drew]

They were born after Covid. I'm serious.

[Kai]

So they're four. Half of them were born.

[Drew]

Literally.

[Kai]

I was like, they're test tubes.

[Veronica]

Oh, my God. No, that's crazy, because my. My younger sister's 2001, so she's 24, but that's. I think that's what keeps me in my. My. I feel like I'm pretending to be Gen Z all the time, and so are you, and that's okay. No, no. But I feel like he also is.

[Kai]

Pretending to be gay all the time.

[Drew]

Okay, well, that's, like a whole other issue that I, you know.

[Kai]

Sorry to bring it up.

[Host]

Why would that be an issue?

[Drew]

Queerbaiting is.

[Host]

It's kind of out.

[Drew]

Yeah, it's kind of out. You get murdered for doing that now. So.

[Host]

No, I don't think. He's fine.

[Veronica]

Everyone drag his ass.

[Host]

Actually. It's actually unreal. The thing is, for women, I think women in entertainment, you have to go bald at one point. You have to shave your head, and then you get taken dead serious. Men.

[Veronica]

Men have to go pretend to be gay.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

Or, like, play a gay.

[Host]

Forgive me. Men have to be a really hot gay guy getting railed at one point to be a star, and girls have.

[Kai]

To shave their head, and that's the era I'm in, obviously right now I am straight, but I'm pretending just to get my foot in the industry.

[Veronica]

And let me say, it's working.

[Kai]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Host]

Okay, so you've only been living here for three years, like in the US because.

[Veronica]

Just New York or I guess like two and a half years. Yeah. Just got my green card.

[Kai]

Hey, party, party, party.

[Veronica]

And I love America.

[Drew]

Yes. Right now.

[Host]

I know.

[Drew]

I'm like.

[Veronica]

And I'm not scared.

[Host]

I know. Also, like, kind of weird time to be getting that because, like, doesn't matter. Baby. They don't give a. Baby, throw that thing away. Because they don't give a fuck if you got it or not.

[Veronica]

But.

[Host]

Or sell it on Facebook. Market.

[Kai]

Let's talk about that.

[Veronica]

That's where this chair is from, right? Marketplace.

[Drew]

Yes.

[Host]

My dad, first girlfriend literally got deported for fake papers. So I'm about to run that scam on people. I think. I think that'd be good for me.

[Kai]

No, I think that's a really bad idea.

[Host]

Well, I'm talking game plan. If all else fails. First it's Etsy shops, then it's selling.

[Kai]

Things, and then we get evil.

[Host]

Yeah. Then we get cryptic.

[Kai]

I'll join you.

[Host]

Okay. So.

[Veronica]

Yes.

[Host]

Do you go back to Canada often?

[Veronica]

Yeah, I mean, well, I had to wait for like almost a year when I was waiting for my green card. So that was. That was like. It's my house, my house. It's only like 11. 11. It's like an 11 hour drive from New York. But it does feel very. It does feel like a totally different country. But so I go back, like all. I mean, now that I work at a wonderful place, but that's so major.

[Kai]

We'll get into fun.

[Veronica]

It's fun. But yeah, I definitely go back, like as much as I can. Like for Christmas, I'll go for like whatever, 10 days or something and. But yeah, I definitely, like, I'm still like my whole. Well, my parents immigrated from Poland to Canada like five years before I was born.

[Drew]

And then.

[Veronica]

So I'm. I don't know my. I guess I'm like Polish Canadian, I guess.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Kai]

Well, you're an American now.

[Host]

You're. Well, you're. An anchor, baby. Dude, I cannot believe you literally just are on snl.

[Kai]

That's so funny. Literally.

[Host]

It's so dumb.

[Kai]

It's so crazy.

[Host]

It only makes me laugh one, because I. I mean, if anybody listening knows this, but I'm like such a pop culture connoisseur. So I was like, wow, this is. This I would argue that this cast, to me, has some of, like, the craziest bangers. Like, you and Jane alone. I'm like, whoa. Like, that's crazy.

[Veronica]

Jane and I are, like, roommates at work, too. Like, we, like, share a.

[Kai]

Okay.

[Host]

Like, that's amazing.

[Veronica]

Like, dressing room. And it's. It's really, like, we called the vortex. When I'm in it, I'm like. And then when I'm out, it feels like I just was dreaming. Like, that was all a dream. I don't even know what happened. How.

[Kai]

Like, when you're in it, how long are you in it?

[Veronica]

Like, three weeks.

[Kai]

Wow.

[Veronica]

We've been doing three weeks since. Yeah. And then we're off for, like, three weeks or, like, a week sometimes, and that's not enough time.

[Kai]

You're a character in the Finn, like, podcast. Like, food. What is it? I was literally crying, fucking laughing at just specifically you. Like, that shit was killing me.

[Veronica]

It's. Cause it's a little bit of a shifty eye. Cause it's the insecurity of, like, dude. Yeah.

[Kai]

Like.

[Veronica]

Like saying something, you're.

[Host]

You. You.

[Veronica]

You're confident enough to say it, but then you regret it immediately.

[Kai]

Yeah. You just have to keep pushing. It was so good.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Kai]

Major.

[Veronica]

Thank you. So crazy.

[Host]

I, like, I just cannot. I also can't imagine that kind of workflow, because I know. I know a lot of people who have some of the craziest work lives ever, but that seems like. Oh, my God. That seems like the kind of, like, turnaround to make me personally walk away from a job. And everybody's like, enya, Umantor was a bitch. Like, like, literally did. I think if I was in that setting, it'd be like, okay, so this girl, we thought she was super cool till we started working with her, because I think I would, like. I don't know if I have it in me to be under that kind of pressure.

[Veronica]

The pressure. But it is. It's the vortex. You don't even have time to think. Like, what am. I mean, you have for a second to be like, what am I doing? But then it's like, oh, you get a call or you get a text or you get put into a sketch or then cut the next second. Like, it's all up and down. And that's, like, one thing. I think people. Whatever. Like, yeah, it is. It's like the whole show is like a living organism, and you just have to, like, just. What is it? Like, let go completely and be totally fine with whatever outcome. And it's really challenging in the best way.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

Like, I feel like I'm in school, crazy school. But then it happens. We happen to go live in front of millions of people. That's up.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

That is like, if this right now is, like, right now, this one thing I'm saying, it's really scary.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. I mean, that I can't imagine because I'm never. I'm never in a setting like that at this, like. Yeah, no, we are never in a position, really, that we're live unless, like, by my own volition and I'm in my house. And at that point, it's like, that's mad embarrassing on my own, live in my crib. That's, like, kind of fucked up.

[Veronica]

It's so fun because it's like you, like a. You write, you act, and then, like, if your thing gets on, then you're the producer. You choose. Oh, yeah. You choose what wig goes on. You kind of. Kind of direct it if you want. Or, like, choose, like, the set and, like, what the decoration. Like, you know, I mean, like. I mean, it's a whole team. Yeah.

[Host]

You get to see, like, a whole world build out based off your idea.

[Veronica]

Totally. And it's like, in a second, which my brain, coming from online, I love that. That it's like, right now, this week, it happens.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Kai]

Wow.

[Veronica]

And then. And then if it doesn't happen, then you're just like an actor and, like, whatever. You're in other people's things. But it's really. I thought. I thought I would never be able to do that, and then somehow you would be able to do it. That's the thing. It's like, you would just, like, enter it and somehow your brain would just like, okay, like, oh, my God.

[Host]

Have there been any moments that are just like. This is like. Have there been any moments so far? Yeah. That you're like. Whether it's like a joke that was yours, like, landed or like, anything like that that just blew you away or.

[Veronica]

Has the whole thing.

[Host]

The whole thing.

[Veronica]

But then, like. Yeah, there are big moments of, like, my third episode was the one I did. Yeah. With Sabrina. And, like, literally, like, we're like, I know.

[Host]

It's so loud.

[Kai]

It's louder than normal. It's like Lana vaping on a track bonk. Yeah. Yeah.

[Host]

Honestly. Coming soon. I'm not kidding. If I could smoke weed in here, I would be that piece of probably who has a podcast that is smoking weed.

[Veronica]

Wait, are you a big. I don't know. Are you a big.

[Host]

It's Bad. Yeah.

[Veronica]

Really? I love that. Like, like, major how my best friends, like, morning till night all the time and.

[Host]

But I backed up a little. Now I'm like, way. I didn't smoke today till noon and I've been up since 8. Yeah.

[Veronica]

These are my Canadian friends.

[Host]

They're all.

[Veronica]

We're okay.

[Kai]

Weed was legal there, like, very quickly.

[Veronica]

Yes.

[Kai]

It was like, before America. Loki, right?

[Veronica]

Yes. Yes. I don't know what exactly.

[Kai]

Like, medicinal.

[Veronica]

I was definitely in college, I think, but yeah, like, like, totally.

[Host]

Oh, I didn't remember when we would like that.

[Kai]

I remember when we would, like, do those shows for press play in Canada and, like, literally, like, the people who were 18 would just, like, come back with weed.

[Host]

I know, but we had a lot of followers who brought us.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Host]

Like, literally since the dawn of time, like, people from our audience have like, met us and been like, oh, my God, do you want a vape, weed or alcohol? Because I have these. And we've been offered, like, further than that. Like, oh, my crazy shit. By random.

[Veronica]

Are these your. What are your vices, if I may ask, Heroine?

[Host]

Because I, like, need you to finish, like, your. Like. Oh, my God. I'm like.

[Veronica]

I'm like, boring.

[Host]

No, but.

[Veronica]

But truly, like, then all of a sudden I'm.

[Host]

Oh.

[Veronica]

And my costume broke. So that was a big thing. Like, it was like my first sketch, I guess, like, where I'm like, singing with Sabrina. Also sweetest person. I was like, so awesome. And like. And then I.

[Kai]

She's, like, hilarious too.

[Veronica]

She's so funny.

[Host]

I know. She feel to me, like, since her Christmas special, I've been like, damn. She is just. And now she did the Muppets, like, the first episode of that. I'm like. I have been saying to me, I'm like, she's the closest to, like, Eliza Minnelli we're gonna get, like, for this generation. Because she's just like, you could throw that in any room she is going to. Literally, like, truly. She's gonna run for so long. It's so awesome.

[Veronica]

It's so awesome. And it was like, such a moment of the. Of during dress. It went perfectly. I got up, the costume didn't break. So it was supposed to open, and then I was supposed to come out in a dress and dance. And then, of course, we're live. Oh, can't get up. So my seal catches on it. No worries. Absolutely cracked open.

[Host]

How's the power wash setting? You tell me. Give me that power wash.

[Veronica]

I'm like this, like. Okay, just. You can kind of See my insecurity in my eyes. But I just kept going and then whatever. And it ended. And it was, like, so fun. And we, like, danced. But that was a moment where I could have gone to my room and, like, cried about, oh, it didn't go perfect.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

This thing of, like, whatever. But then I was like, that's why I signed up for this. It's live. It's completely live. And people. I think I like it when I. When I see things I want to say.

[Host]

I. I like you pointing that out is funny because that is, again, like, because of what it is. That's one of those moments where it's, like, almost even from a consumer standpoint, it's, like, more entertaining because it even breaks the consumer out of, like. Because I think sometimes whoever's watching, to even remember it's called Saturday Night Live. But, like, especially because we live in an Ash Trevino world of everyone being live, I don't think people understand, like, how high stakes that sort of live is versus, again, just being in your crib and like. Or even, like a kaisen at where it's like, yes, that's live. But he has, like. That's like, his ship. This is like a ship ran by 18.

[Veronica]

Oh. Or like, 10, 200. Behind the scenes that are doing then. They're the real heroes. Let me say that whenever you guys come, and hopefully you guys come, I'll be there. Oh, please. And it's so seeing the sets move and break and, like, everything run around, then someone's grabbing your hand. You're getting changed. A quick change. Like, it's crazy. It's unbelievable.

[Host]

Did you do theater or anything before? Like, what was.

[Veronica]

Yeah, I did. Like, So I am 30. Believe that out. Thank you. So I did, like, a ton of. I went to school for musical theater, which is, like, I think, so obvious when you find that out.

[Host]

I would have made fun of that, but again.

[Veronica]

The dress is wicked.

[Kai]

Vera Bradley.

[Host]

I am changed for the better.

[Kai]

Huh? Is that Vieira Bradley?

[Host]

No, it's Prada, baby.

[Veronica]

It's really gorgeous. No, you are, like, you guys are it. And I hope you guys know that, like, fashion, everything, like, the coolest tastemakers, like, you guys are the voice of our generation. May I say that?

[Kai]

Of Yalls generation.

[Veronica]

Yes. Thank you. Oh, yes. No, but for real, like, in a major way. Major way.

[Host]

I was literally saying to my friend Rain. Cause I was like, I don't really know what I'm gonna end up doing at this point, but I am so happy that I do live in the delusion that Lena Dunham wrote for herself and girls, where she's like, at the table with her parents and she's like, I'm the voice of a generation. I'm like, I literally.

[Kai]

At least we have that.

[Host]

I'm like, me and all my friends. I literally. I unironically do. Look at everybody I'm surrounded by. I'm like, wow, that's crazy. Like, damn, that's so insane. Okay, but.

[Veronica]

No, but in a real way. In a real way.

[Host]

Did musical theater.

[Veronica]

Did musical theater. And I grew up, like, in a. This place called Barry, Ontario. It's like an hour and a half north of Toronto.

[Kai]

That's where the gym came from, actually. Barry Boot camp.

[Host]

Yes. Wait, are you serious?

[Kai]

No, I made that up.

[Veronica]

Barry spelled I. E. You see, it was gorgeous. And it was like, yeah, 100,000 people. Like, not super small, but, like small town energy. And then. So the only thing to do there, if you, like, liked the arts in any sort of way, I guess, was the musical. So then I would do that. And I can sing a tune or.

[Host]

Yeah, I was gonna say you have a crazy fucking voice, which I also.

[Kai]

She can sing for real.

[Host]

She can sing for real. Have you seen that video?

[Kai]

No, but I know.

[Host]

It's literally a guy in a grocery store singing his ass off, unlike announced. And then he hits such a high note, he faints and falls over while a girl's recording him and going, he can sing for real.

[Veronica]

And then he just literally, I've almost done that. It's for real.

[Kai]

It's a real thing.

[Veronica]

It's breath control. You gotta take those breaths. But yeah, so then I did that. And then in grade 11, sophomore. Whatever the that is. What? Sophomore? What do you guys call wait, Junior?

[Kai]

Yeah, Sophomore.

[Host]

Y' all are the weird one.

[Veronica]

No, we say grade. We say grade 11. We didn't say, like, ninth grade. We say grade nine.

[Kai]

That actually makes sense.

[Host]

Grade nine.

[Kai]

Yeah, nine. Grade nine.

[Host]

Grade.

[Kai]

You're in the sophomores. 10. Grade 10.

[Veronica]

What's 11?

[Kai]

11. Junior.

[Veronica]

Junior. So I was junior year, and then my. And I was in, like, community theater productions. And then my friends and I loved, like, oh, oh, here we go. Like Adventure Time, you know. Wait, you know the.

[Kai]

Here.

[Host]

I was like, did you stay long enough to end up in the Steven Universe?

[Kai]

Yes.

[Host]

Okay, okay, okay. And I see you, though.

[Kai]

I know we're right there with you.

[Veronica]

Because we were nerds there.

[Host]

There is a crossover from Steven Universe that Garnet's character sings. That is so good. And I literally, I can't remember it, but I had it on SoundCloud and I downloaded it and like it was on my phone. Oh my God.

[Veronica]

All like Marceline's songs too.

[Host]

I've been. I've been wanting to do a re watch, but Adventure Time really did land in like a Rick and Morty smoke shop. But like that version was like before Adventure Time wasn't around to end up in a smoke shop, but they were around long enough to be Spencer.

[Kai]

Yeah. Spencer's boss.

[Host]

Any subculture that ended up in Spencer's and Hot Topic. Although loved. Loved by this.

[Veronica]

The fandom ruined it. Yeah.

[Kai]

Was like a, like a show right now that's getting.

[Veronica]

I know.

[Kai]

I mean, I guess.

[Host]

Well, there's a lot of shows like, like. But I'm thinking of I again. I think I consume media from every sub genre on the planet because there is that one cartoon show. It's so annoying. I can think of all the characters and the way they look, but I can't think of the name of it. I think we tried to watch it. Or there was a show like, oh, it's not Smile.

[Kai]

You're not talking about Smiling Friends.

[Host]

I'm not smiling.

[Veronica]

I like.

[Kai]

But that's great.

[Host]

I know. I love Smiling Friends with Smiling Friends is kind of hitting that.

[Veronica]

Yeah.

[Host]

Very quickly. Very, very quickly too. Which is a great show of success. It's a great marker of success is.

[Veronica]

When like, you know, haha, you clowns. No, that one's really good.

[Kai]

Not me writing it.

[Veronica]

Check it down, check it down, check it down. That's what we said in the end.

[Kai]

Check it down. Let's bring it back.

[Veronica]

But it's. It's really. It's got like three brothers and it's Joe Kappa. He's this artist and it's like Adult Swim in hbo. But it's like amazing. And really, I. I hate to say this, but like modern. Yeah. Anime.

[Host]

Oh, sweet.

[Veronica]

And like modern hue. Like it's very heartfelt. But yeah, it like scratches an itch where I'm like, oh, that's my sense of humor. But I don't know how to like quite say it.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

But yeah, it's really.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Host]

Because I literally. I love cartoons.

[Veronica]

Especially if you're a stoner dude. Like.

[Host]

No. What's up Is Smiling Friends to me that's why I love it so much. But it does live in that world because I started watching Smiling Friends because one of our stoner ass friends came over, was like, this episode is so funny. And it was the episode with what's his Name Gronk or like the.

[Kai]

I don't remember.

[Host]

It's the video game character who's like doing cameos at the beginning of the episode. It's like, it's literally season two, episode two.

[Kai]

Yes.

[Host]

I've seen it a bunch when I.

[Kai]

Was back in Texas. Grew up in Texas. Personally, I put Smiling Friends on because I forgot who was telling me to watch this specific episode for like months and months and months. And I was just like, whatever, I'll put it on. I put it on. And I don't know how. It's on hbo. Right. I don't know how my hbo, like auto replayed the same episode and I fell asleep on the couch and was just like. The only thing my brain was consuming was this episode of Smiling Friends. And I think it changes trajectory of my life. Like, I think it rotted my brain to. Its rotted to my core.

[Veronica]

Yeah, no, that. Do you remember any of the lines that like.

[Kai]

No, not literally.

[Veronica]

Not like, maybe it's just like subconsciously, like.

[Kai]

Yeah, it like melted my brain a little bit. Truly zapped me subconsciously.

[Host]

Yeah. I haven't been watching anything new. I'm. I'm like kind of in. I. I think I like, I consume things like an SNL or like a weekly, like something that. In that genre. But shows I have such a hard time jumping onto while they're airing. Like, so Smiling Friends is random for me. Like, I'm just watching Insecure, which is like, yes, I'm just now getting set. I just got to season four and it's so good. I love that show so much. Like, I. I think is there a world where you would like to write a show or like, work on a show or anything like that? Yeah.

[Veronica]

Yeah. I think snl, like, and. And a lot of people I don't know, I feel like the way is like, I never planned for it to happen, but like, obviously I definitely was like a fan of SNL and.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

And think that my skill set is good there. I hope. Who knows? So whatever. But I'm having fun. But before that, I was definitely like, pitching stuff in Canada and like, and here. And like, I for sure want to. I think SNL will be like a nice place for me to like, learn all these skills and like, definitely want to stay for a long time.

[Host]

Please.

[Veronica]

But.

[Kai]

But we'll make sure that happens.

[Host]

Yeah, but like, call some people.

[Veronica]

You know, it's. It's. I would love to. Yeah. Like, I'm such a pop culture person as well and would love like, what. What's what's this generation's like show what's like that? Where's that itch? And like just also also movies too. I really want to. I have a movie script that I think would that's what I want to make first. Yeah, let's talk about it, guys.

[Kai]

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[Host]

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[Kai]

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[Veronica]

But, yeah. Wait, so can we talk about Nirvana show?

[Kai]

Yes, we literally can.

[Veronica]

Oh, my God, I'm gonna sound like fake.

[Kai]

No, no, no. I saw it. I saw it, and it's so fucking good. And the shit. Like, I've been practicing this pitch so I don't spoil anything with Josh, like, our roommate, because, like, he. He's the one that got me into Nirvana, the band, the show, obviously, through Finn and whatever.

[Veronica]

Yes.

[Kai]

But the things they do in this movie are unfucking believable. Like, the. The things they reference. Like, it was some of the shit they were doing. I was like, were they planning this, like, 20 years ago? Like, how the fuck did they do this? It is so sick. It's so sick.

[Veronica]

Have you seen the Viking Vice? Like, the series as well? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're amazing.

[Kai]

I want them so bad. Like, I want them to be able to be consumed by people, but they're, like, in Vice Purgatory or something. Like. No, it's really tragic. Yeah, it's Kia Nirvana, the band. The show is in kyo, right?

[Veronica]

No, true.

[Host]

I think I only watched Vice Asylum.

[Veronica]

That's what it really is. Only watch things on. What's that, my friend? Did you guys. Do you know Zach Villery? Yeah.

[Host]

Okay.

[Veronica]

He's, like, my roommate and like, my, like, like, best friend.

[Kai]

Wait, your roommate?

[Veronica]

Yeah.

[Kai]

Wait. Actually.

[Veronica]

Actually, my roommate, it's, like, is fully.

[Kai]

Like, one of my best friends, like, not too long ago. And I was like, oh, this is a random connection, but a cool connection.

[Host]

Like, y' all are friends. And that also just cracks me up because, again, me and I. I've. We've known him since, like, I don't know him personally like that, but I'm just like, he's been in our circle. Question mark.

[Veronica]

Yes.

[Host]

When he lived here, more so. But, like, I haven't seen him in so long.

[Kai]

Wait, so you were around when he was making his new project, which is amazing.

[Veronica]

You guys love it.

[Host]

Dude, I love that. So good.

[Veronica]

Zachary's snowy. I never snow.

[Host]

Like the. No, he.

[Veronica]

Full ass. Like, full ass. Full ass.

[Host]

Also, great artist. Like, he's a great illustrator, but that's always been his whole gag since 2016 or 2016, 2017, when he was like, popping off originally. Also, I just love someone like that. Like, I don't know him personally, but I just love someone who is so good at making art that they are like, they just. They're just. I don't know.

[Veronica]

I'm like, consumed. Like, he doesn't do anything.

[Host]

Yeah, he does it. And also, I'm like, not a. Who needs to be like, guys, look, please, please look. I'm like, yes, love.

[Veronica]

The good will rise.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Kai]

The truth will prevail.

[Veronica]

Write that down. Write that down.

[Kai]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Veronica]

No, y', all, we're really close and, like.

[Kai]

And they were roommate.

[Host]

My true.

[Veronica]

And their roommates. Because Kyle and I was gonna ask the connection there. So Kyle and Michael, who films our videos, went to school with Zach in New Orleans. Like to college or university, whatever you say it, but yeah, he's. So they, like, went to school together and then, like, moved to LA together. So Kyle lived here too, with Michael, and then was also kind of. I don't know if you met you guys ever, but I feel like those. The circles were kind of like, yeah.

[Kai]

I wonder if he ever met.

[Host]

That's weird.

[Veronica]

I know.

[Kai]

I mean, all roads lead to this.

[Veronica]

Moment in a real way. In a real way.

[Host]

Because, you know, it is. It is really freaky. I was talking to somebody about that recently. Oh, I, like, met someone who's like, newer to this circle, but they're like, in the circle, whatever. Not somebody like a public person by any means. But they made a comment to me that actually kind of blew my mind because they were. I had mentioned something that, like, Devin, like Devin Lee Carlson had said or something.

[Veronica]

You should check my phone case.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Host]

I literally love her so much.

[Veronica]

I love her.

[Host]

I was like, cracking up, cuz I was like, oh, my God, dude. This is actually so funny to just be alive in a moment where now at this point I can look back at the past like 10, 12 years and so many people. I'm like, why have I known you for?

[Kai]

Literally Ricky, we were talking about that Ricky Thompson.

[Host]

But even like a Zach and all that, like that whole side of like.

[Kai]

We just realized we had known him for like 10 years maybe long. Actually probably 12 years, 13 years. Cuz he just had his 30th birthday like a few days ago. And it was just freaking me the out where I'm like, oh my God. Like I've known a lot of these people for like close to half of my life. That's really crazy.

[Veronica]

Did you guys go to college? But I feel like this is your. This was the college and like learning how to. Whatever cuz you guys have been.

[Host]

That was like if I think of a Zach, I'm like, oh yeah, that feels like college. Cuz it was like totally. All for the most part, fresh out of high school and then meeting all these people who were like, like already had their groundings here. So we were kind of like the army who would just like show up.

[Veronica]

And be like, hi, is Josh Film. What's his name?

[Kai]

Yeah, Film Quake.

[Veronica]

Like I was such a big fan. I like talked to. To Casey randomly on the phone the other day.

[Host]

Oh, Casey Fry?

[Veronica]

Yes.

[Kai]

Oh, wait, yeah, y' all were doing like a show or you did a show? I did a show.

[Veronica]

And he came and then like I was like, we have to get like dinner sometimes. Like I'm the biggest fan. Like it's still like this whole like that's what's weird to me is like I knew about all of you guys and like was always like so cool to be there. And I'm like, cole, I'm freezing my ass having Tim Hortons.

[Host]

And I need that though, because I've never had that. And that's me. Tim Hortons is like Dutch bros to me. Where like I haven't really had Dutch bros, but it's just like I see that. I'm like, damn, that just seems like a vibe. And I see Tim Hortons.

[Veronica]

I'm like, Canadians do go every single day. My mom goes every single day.

[Host]

Every day.

[Veronica]

Wait, every day.

[Host]

Wait, are y' all not allowed to have coffee machines?

[Kai]

Wait, don't y' all have like holes? Like donut holes or some just the thing.

[Veronica]

Donut.

[Kai]

What are they called? Tim Bits.

[Veronica]

Yes, Tim Bits. Justin Bieber.

[Drew]

True's always going to figure out a way to bring up holes.

[Kai]

I Know, I just need to talk about hole holes.

[Veronica]

You got to talk and what's in the center. And Justin Bieber did a collab with. They were called Tim Beads and they like sold out in a second. Oh, yeah, it's gotten like really like McDonald's coded. But like, but when I was growing up still though, like, it'd be like house party and then like meet at the Tim Hortons because there were 24 hours and then like you'd eat something and then you go to another house party when it got busted.

[Host]

Wait, Tim Hortons is a 24 hour place? Yeah. Oh, I thought y' all were kind of cute and classy.

[Veronica]

Now it's like full on. Like, what's that called? Like the Wawa. The Kiowa House. Like the one you don't have to talk to.

[Kai]

Robotic yeah.

[Veronica]

Like now it's kind of gotten a.

[Host]

Little sad, which is so up because the joy of all those places was interacting with like the freak elites.

[Kai]

Have you been to a Waffle House yet?

[Veronica]

No.

[Kai]

Oh, we gotta go.

[Veronica]

I would love to go. Wait, what's the experience?

[Kai]

It's literally like amazing. You walk in, no one greets you, then you like sit at a table and then you're sitting in front of all these grills that are spraying hot oil onto you, burning your skin a little bit. The air is like thick with 13 year old oil. It's. It's a beautiful thing. And then your server is mean to you the whole time and then you will see a fight.

[Host]

I would say, I actually would argue that the Waffle House workers, at least every time I've been there. But maybe I think you get this experience too because you're a pretty girl. So I do think it's different for guys because I go in there and.

[Kai]

I'm very straight and you're very strange, really masculine and I present really scary and buffalo stuff. Right?

[Host]

I'm like. It's usually you get like a server who I guess will be mean at first, but the second you crack a.

[Veronica]

Smile, then it's like, yeah, we're gonna.

[Host]

Be here together for two hours and you're gonna have to walk past me 18 times. I'm sitting right next to you, so you're gonna be kind of chill.

[Kai]

We did have a very pleasant experience when me and Orion went in Texas. But that's what I'm saying.

[Host]

You got, you got chaperoned by two pretty girls.

[Veronica]

So that's why Is the food good?

[Host]

I fuck with you.

[Drew]

Yes.

[Host]

It's between, like, if I really had to put it in terms of, like, American, like, like breakfast places, like an IHOP or like a Denny's or a Waffle House. Like Waffle House. To me, I would love for Waffle House to destroy every IHOP and Denny's.

[Veronica]

In the street when ihop. And I was like, it's pretty.

[Kai]

Nothing like that.

[Host]

Yeah, no, it's.

[Veronica]

But Waffle. Well, I went to Skyline Chile in Cincinnati.

[Kai]

Skyline.

[Veronica]

What is that? Talk about the American experience, you guys. Do you know what Skyline is?

[Drew]

I have no idea.

[Veronica]

Oh, my God. So Cincinnati, Ohio. Beautiful. My favorite place on earth. It's guys, Spaghetti. Like, like, like, literally like spaghetti, then chili on top. Okay. But it's like cinnamon chili. Like, there's a little. You can really taste the cinnamon. No, it's really crazy. That's a good ton of cheddar cheese on top. Like a ton shredded. And then you have to, like, put like Skyline, like whatever, like hot franks sauce on it. And it's the craziest. No, no, guys, like, that's.

[Kai]

I mean, I can't talk.

[Host]

I have so many things to say.

[Veronica]

With a Mountain Dew saying this.

[Kai]

Now you're speaking my language.

[Veronica]

Yes. Like, this is. This is stuff that's. I'm not kidding. Illegal in Canada.

[Kai]

The red and the neon.

[Veronica]

I. I have a photo, guys. This is how, like, on. When I went to Florida, me, it was like a green juice with hot Cheetos. Because hot Cheetos were not. Not sold in Canada yet. Now they. But I was like, that was my experience.

[Kai]

Oh, my God. That was like.

[Veronica]

I would, like, get hot Cheetos when I come to America.

[Kai]

Whoa.

[Host]

Now when Americans go to Japan and we get like, juice and ice cup.

[Veronica]

And we're like, juice, I'm going to Japan on Saturday.

[Kai]

Wow.

[Veronica]

No, I actually need to talk because I feel like you guys have.

[Host]

I'll send you a bunch of clothing shops.

[Veronica]

Yes.

[Kai]

Yeah, we got clothing.

[Veronica]

I'm going for a week. I'm so fun. Yes.

[Kai]

Okay. I'll send him some shop job for him, too.

[Veronica]

Kyle's going. Kyle. Kyle's the. He got a job. So he's working there for two days.

[Host]

Oh, that looks awesome. And then I.

[Veronica]

So I have two days alone. I'm going to walk around and have my Bill Murray moment.

[Host]

Yes.

[Veronica]

Or should I say Scarlet Johan.

[Host]

You're going to be Bill instead of star.

[Veronica]

Yes, the old one. Yeah.

[Host]

You're like. I'm just a bit more established than she was. Like, she was like 17 in that movie or something. She was a.

[Veronica]

Was amazing. Still a great Movie.

[Host]

Okay. I love it.

[Veronica]

But yeah, I'm. I'm really, really excited. But yeah. What are we talking about? Oh, Skyline, Chile.

[Host]

When you were saying that, I thought I was under the assumption that you went to a building in Ohio that was a skyscraper, which. That confused me cuz I don't imagine in Ohio. And I thought you were like eating chili with a crazy view of a city. Not necessarily like eating sweet chili.

[Veronica]

It's really. I want you guys like, I do like it, but it is better when you've had like two drinks.

[Kai]

Okay.

[Veronica]

We're, you know, like. And then it's the end of the night and you're like, okay, I need to fucking. But it is quite good.

[Kai]

I can get down with shit like that because. Do you know what a jacket potato is for my birthday? Two, three. Was it two years ago? Three years ago. Two years ago.

[Host]

Yeah, it was two years ago.

[Kai]

It was my 25th birthday and I was like, all I want to do is spend the day with Enya making jacket potatoes. So I boiled potatoes and then put. What is it? Beans potatoes.

[Host]

I took him to the store for his birthday. I got him. I bought him all the ingredients and then went home. And you bake the potatoes. Then you put baked beans, tuna, Canned tuna.

[Kai]

Yeah. And it was so good. It was mayo.

[Host]

I thought it was not mayo.

[Kai]

Not mayo in the tuna. I thought, oh yeah.

[Veronica]

Well, mayo is then what cheese?

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

What kind of cheese?

[Host]

Like cheddar and stuff. And like, I think we did you. There was butter in there.

[Kai]

Way too much butter.

[Host]

Butter.

[Kai]

That's the only reason.

[Host]

And then cream cheese. And I think we got a little sexy. And we put like chives on it sounds kind of.

[Veronica]

Kind of healthy in some way.

[Host]

I mean, the tuna is the weirdest. Like. And I. With canned tuna. But canned tuna on big beans was.

[Kai]

It's pretty cursed.

[Veronica]

Yeah.

[Host]

And it did make our house. I mean, we ate it in his room.

[Kai]

Yeah. On my bed while I was making it for him.

[Host]

So I woke him up to his baked potato and then it knocked him back out.

[Veronica]

Have you had the new sweet potato with the cheese in the center?

[Host]

No, but that's.

[Kai]

I've been wanting it so bad. Have you had it?

[Veronica]

No, I won't. I'm scared.

[Kai]

Should we do it?

[Veronica]

Done. We're doing it today.

[Kai]

Right now. After this, we're going to hack.

[Veronica]

Because it's like a.

[Host]

What?

[Veronica]

It's a sweet bit. It's a purple sweet potato. Or is it just a sweet potato?

[Kai]

Either one.

[Host]

Purple. Like I've been seeing the purple ones. Purple with like a. A stick of cheese.

[Kai]

Stick of cheese. It's like muenster cheese or some. Or it starts with a G, right? It's a specific cheese, like butter cheese or some.

[Host]

I think like the only. This is gonna be crazy.

[Kai]

I've been stimming.

[Host]

I think America has literally like, like food based light autism. Like Americans eat at such a degree that has nothing to do with like, like flavor. It's like such an in internal, like deep feeling.

[Kai]

It's a parasite in our gut.

[Host]

Not even parasite. I'm like, it literally is like a soul bending experience. Like Americans, every year, the amount of trends we have had for the weirdest food. Every year we're like, how can we get bigger, better, crazier? Facebook market this now? Like, yes. Cuz can you get like plates of food and off of Facebook market in Canada? I'm sure there's got to be somebody selling plates of food on Facebook market.

[Kai]

Do you know about this?

[Veronica]

No, I'm genuinely. No. But also like maybe I. I live under a rock. Are you guys on Facebook?

[Host]

I'm on Facebook.

[Veronica]

Yeah. I deleted Facebook.

[Host]

Wait. I'm on Facebook market because I like to look around and my dad has a really entertaining Facebook. My. Wow. My dad is one of those people who like his Facebook and IG is. You know those like memes where you can tell some drunk guy just was like, it's like a text meme and it's like. Like some drunk guy posting on his Facebook. That's my dad's Facebook, but just all in Spanish. Like it's just him.

[Veronica]

Incredible.

[Kai]

My entire feed is them.

[Veronica]

Oh, yes, yes. Like that's.

[Host]

That's essentially what my dad posts and reposts on his Facebook. So I think I'm on there more often than maybe other people because I need to see it. Like my dad just goes on there to watch his own timeline, talk about soccer and then yeah, make text post making fun of everybody. I remember when like the last time the gas was really high, he was like. He said some. Like on one of those text posts, it was in Spanish and it was like all you complaining about the gas being too high. Your broke ass has nowhere to go. Shut the up.

[Kai]

Like.

[Host]

Like he says like that on his Facebook or like when people are like going to the grocery store and buying out things for a. A hurricane. He's like, lmao. Not y'. All Buying produce. Like you know how to cook. Postmates is gonna be down. You'll just starve. Like he that on his face. So that's why I'm on there.

[Veronica]

I'm scared. I know my dad got TikTok because of whatever. And to watch the things because my mom's usually just showing him. I'm. I can't follow him back because I'm so scared of seeing his likes or something like that.

[Host]

Right.

[Kai]

I'm right there with you. And I'm also, like, the scariest thing to ever happen to me possibly, would be if someone found my father's Instagram account. Like, I don't follow him. I don't know what the fuck he posts on me.

[Host]

No, I don't either, actually.

[Kai]

No.

[Veronica]

Could be perfectly innocent for all I know.

[Kai]

Exactly.

[Veronica]

I don't want to know. It's Pandora's Box. My dad.

[Kai]

Well, my dad got banned off of Instagram. I don't know how you get banned off of Instagram. He doesn't, like. I don't even know.

[Veronica]

Pretty hard to get.

[Kai]

Like, I've seen dead bodies posted, so he's doing some real up shit.

[Host]

No, my dad literally on his Instagram, reposted recently. It was a picture of two flight attendants with huge boobs.

[Veronica]

Boobs.

[Kai]

And wait, show me, show me, show me.

[Host]

I have to see if I have a screenshot. I think I have a screenshot, but I literally screenshot it because, mind you, he. This is when I was there for the holidays.

[Veronica]

Yeah.

[Host]

And me and my dad are way too close. Me and my dad, like, have the kind of like, my dad and me remind me of, like, me and my cousin or some. I'm like, why is this kind of just my cousin? Like, I pull up and he's like, should we have a drink and go outside and smoke and talk? And I'm like, that's less amazing. But it's also in moments like this, I'm like, I. I'm like 10ft away from you, but he'll go sit on the couch, like, duh, and repost something. And it's a flight attendant with big boobs and a tiny name tag. And then the caption isn't. It's in Spanish. It's like, me in. In 20 years. Sorry, sweetie, I'm of old age. Can you come closer so I can read your name? That's what my dad is up to, personally. He's like. He's posting about how when he's 75, he's gonna be trying to look at boobs. Still. So good.

[Veronica]

I love that. Does he live here?

[Host]

No, he lives in Miami. Okay. I'm from Miami, so my whole family is In Miami.

[Veronica]

Oh, wow. Okay, okay. I've been to the one hotel there, period.

[Host]

The one hotel B1.

[Veronica]

And it was the best day of my life.

[Host]

I haven't been to that one. I just started tapping into hotel culture in Miami because, like, I always just stay with my parents. And then like most adults into my adulthood, I was like, oh my God, I don't have to torment myself for two weeks straight. I can go and stay at a hotel like an adult by myself. So I've been doing that. And the hotel culture in Miami is exactly what I want hotels everywhere to be.

[Veronica]

Like, if that makes sense. It was a resort and mind you, I did not pay for that. It was a work thing, mind you. That crazy ass gym, it's like, well, have you been to the one in hotel ever? Yeah, yeah, they're so.

[Kai]

I love gorgeous.

[Host]

I'm saying though, like, we've stayed in all these like, boosh hotels because when brands are like, what hotel do you stay? And I'm like, oh, Four Seasons, Ritz Carlton.

[Veronica]

Yeah, exactly.

[Host]

Don't put me anywhere but this place.

[Kai]

I can't, I can't handle.

[Host]

Oh, I'm a real brat.

[Kai]

If it's not four grand a night.

[Host]

I don't want something. And you're like, overly nice, so then they take advantage of you.

[Veronica]

Who said that? Who said that?

[Host]

Shit.

[Kai]

Wait, I. I had a question. Where was the first place you came to when you came to America? Like, what's the first? Like on a vacation or whatever vacation?

[Veronica]

Florida. I went to.

[Host]

Yes.

[Veronica]

Disney.

[Kai]

Disney, yes.

[Veronica]

I was 12. And then there's like a picture of me. I think I never brushed my teeth, like ever. Guys, I was like, I think we're not that we're but we, I think the same, like nerdy, you know what I mean? And you glowed up. We're still working on that.

[Kai]

No, it's here. You've arrived.

[Host]

You've been here for a long time.

[Kai]

Unironically though, you're Georgina Grande. Like actually for real.

[Veronica]

And so it was me, like holding like a little alligator. And I'm like, like my bangs are like through. Like it's the nastiest photo ever. And then, oh my God. And I remember I'd wear a training bra, but I used it as an undershirt, like for the long garage V neck.

[Kai]

Oh, yeah, Class.

[Veronica]

So it was just this. I think I washed that bra twice in my life and wore it every single day.

[Kai]

Brushed once. Your bra twice.

[Veronica]

Bra twice and down to here.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

And then I remember one time I like, had my arm up. I was like, in class or whatever, and, like. And this girl comes up to me. She goes, you know, like, you can shave that, right? And I was like, yeah, no, I, like, did. Straight up. I didn't even shave down. Was I bullied? Here's the thing. Not. I didn't speak. I was very shy until, like, grade seven because I was, like, behind the. This girl named Chantel. I would just, like, she would speak for me. And she was kind of. She had two brothers, so she was a really alpha, and I was kind of like her, like, sidekick. And then when she left the school, all of a sudden, I just kind of, like, blossomed and became really not loud, but, like, whatever. I, like, sang at the talent show and.

[Kai]

Whoa, what'd you sing? What'd you sing?

[Veronica]

If I ain't got you Alicia Keys.

[Kai]

Whoa, that's amazing.

[Veronica]

And I was flat as hell. Nobody but everyone.

[Kai]

Yeah, no one knew.

[Host]

Everyone's like, can't believe it. You said amazing.

[Kai]

You took down your ponies.

[Host]

Being in middle school is literally, like, the bare minimum. Like, no. Truly blew people away. Like, oh, wow.

[Veronica]

I was the greatest woman ever. And then. But, yeah, it was. Oh. So then I. But then my mom, because my parents are, like, Eastern European, so either they're, like, pro hair or something, but, like, never talk to me about. About sex or, like, anything, and it's totally fine. But I didn't know it was enough. Should I tell the story? Is this.

[Kai]

Please. No.

[Host]

Please.

[Kai]

If you want to.

[Veronica]

I'll to go into it.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

So I didn't, like, know that you were like, I'm in 10th grade. Guys like. Like, going to grade 10. No, no, no, no. It was, like, later in my life, and I didn't know that you could, like, that that was an option. And so I got invited to this cottage with my friend, and they were.

[Kai]

Like, going to the cottage.

[Veronica]

The cult.

[Host]

Yes.

[Kai]

No, see, that's not the cottage.

[Veronica]

And that's actually kind of where I'm from, around there.

[Kai]

Really?

[Veronica]

Yeah. But, like, I want to.

[Kai]

I want to touch on that next. Or. Yes, I want to talk about. I want to talk about heated rivalries next.

[Host]

Yes, we do.

[Veronica]

We do.

[Host]

And then.

[Veronica]

But anyway, so then I. Long story short, I didn't ever once touch down there, and I'm in a bikini, and I'm like, this, like, taking pictures, like, dude, spelling love, like, fully. And then after. And they were, like, popular guys. Like, no, it was so embarrassing. Popular guys that were older than us, like, who went on the trip because my Friend's brother was one of those guys. And then later, after I found out, like, two weeks later, they're like, Veronica's really naturally.

[Host]

And fully.

[Veronica]

Like, that was how I discovered I could shave my pubes. Don't have to. Could. And no. But it was like, no. I straight up, like, just didn't know. I was like, okay, sweet. I think it's like, that is literally.

[Host]

Amazing because I feel like that's you.

[Kai]

Now, by the way.

[Veronica]

No, like, listen, and I'm pro. Whatever. You can do whatever you want.

[Host]

No, but it does get to a point because I'm like, that's me now. But that's me. Again, to the point. Because when I was in Florida, I was going to the beach mad early, mind you. Like, no one's around. So, like. And I am somebody who. It takes a lot for me to get to shame. Like, I am not a shameful person. I don't have guilt. I'm like, like, Catholic guilt. Don't know her. I don't give a fuck. I was there, like, the crack of fucking dawn, like, watching the sunrise, and I'm, like, laying down, and I look down and I was like, like, oh, my God. I literally, like, kind of got up to the point that, like, when I was going to get in the water, I was, like, running from my towel to the water because I was like, the. Like, the bush that's, like, happening is too. Like, it looks like I'm untouched and, like, uncanny. Like, it just looks like it was, like, getting to a sad point.

[Veronica]

Yeah, it's Rockstar, so.

[Kai]

Yeah, exactly.

[Veronica]

I really think that's Rockstar.

[Host]

I wasn't feeling my Rockstar. Like, the man was on TikTok live, like, behind me doing jump backflips off.

[Veronica]

Of a trash can.

[Host]

I. I swear to God.

[Kai]

And your whole bush is in the back.

[Host]

I'm not kidding. And that was. I. I think that was like. I. I almost went as far as to post on my story because I.

[Kai]

If you saw me in the background of this video.

[Host]

No, I was just gonna be like, I think I sent it to you. But it was like, full bush out at the beach. And for the first time ever, I'm so ashamed of myself because I think it was like, I had bush. I had, like, hairy legs and the arbit. So I was like.

[Kai]

And girls should be bald. It's like, I agree. Girls should be shaved.

[Drew]

I do not agree. I've never said that.

[Host]

First gift, and Drew was a laser away gift card. And he said, y' all need. Said, you Guys need this. And then he, like, looked at me.

[Veronica]

No, I know, I know.

[Drew]

In fact, I've.

[Veronica]

Often, when we hooked up, by the way, can't believe we're talking about. He said, what's that?

[Host]

Gross.

[Veronica]

Gross. Give me a barf bag, please. Now.

[Kai]

Put a bag over there.

[Drew]

No. When we hooked up, I said, I think your bush could be five times larger.

[Host]

That's not what.

[Kai]

Wow.

[Host]

Larger.

[Veronica]

It's crazy.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Kai]

Computer, computer.

[Host]

Dude, that is amazing. I mean, yeah, I know. I was. I wasn't allowed to shave. Like, I knew I was privy to shaving, but I came from, like, a really. I. I think maybe it's just having.

[Kai]

Immigrant parents, not me getting a party full. I'm so popular.

[Host]

Let's go.

[Kai]

Literally, so popular.

[Host]

It's crazy, girl. Let's hear it.

[Veronica]

What'd you guys do for new yours.

[Kai]

Kai, do you want to say?

[Drew]

We went to a New Year's party, and then at midnight, Drew grabbed my ass, and he said, that's. That's dessert.

[Kai]

That's dessert. The cookie was off quarantine that night. Yeah, the cookie's always on quarantine.

[Host]

Well, the cookie gets shut down for, like. Like, hazard.

[Kai]

Ran through.

[Host]

Ran through.

[Kai]

There's roadblocks.

[Drew]

There's a road killy. Nibbled on cookie. Very lightly nibbled on cookie.

[Veronica]

May I ask if you guys are dating or is not you guys together, obviously?

[Kai]

Well, yes, we are.

[Veronica]

You're dating.

[Kai]

We still haven't shared a kiss, believe.

[Host]

It or not, really had a kiss. We're saving it for our wedding.

[Kai]

You're invited. Yeah, we're.

[Veronica]

Oh, my God.

[Kai]

We're for real. Going to get. And you're coming.

[Veronica]

I would love to come.

[Kai]

And it's going to be a real wedding.

[Host]

Yeah. Me and Drew are going to get married. I. I don't know if I'll ever actually get married. I. But I do want a wedding. I just want something.

[Kai]

I want.

[Host]

A wedding is just a party. It's just like, I want a big party, and, like, I'm not a birthday party person. Like, I can't do all that, like, scary, really. But that's something.

[Veronica]

When you do free birthdays, then you just do, like, chill dinner. Dinner with seven friends, pretty much, basically.

[Kai]

We did art night here for her.

[Host]

Yeah. Oh, my God. This was my favorite birthday ever. Like this.

[Kai]

I like studio. We did studio. Made a song.

[Veronica]

Oh, my God.

[Kai]

We'll show you. And then we came back, and there was art supplies everywhere, and we just did art for her. Her.

[Host]

It was so fun, and everybody made me Clay things. It's a remix of doing.

[Kai]

That's me and y layered and you.

[Veronica]

Doing what you want.

[Kai]

This is Barbie.

[Host]

Young and beautiful. Really thankful. But yeah, like it's literally just. Everyone just went in and made me a song and it was so awesome. And you could smoke weed in the studio, which is how literally all I wanted.

[Veronica]

Do you drink it all or no or just. Just the weed I drink.

[Kai]

But like she drinks every single day and if she doesn't, she shakes.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah. I mean it's.

[Kai]

I'm there too.

[Veronica]

No, me do me too.

[Host]

No, I like, I'm like a casual drinker. Question mark. I feel like I've been drinking a bunch the past few weeks, but that's just because my sister was in town for two weeks and then it was like a bunch of birthday parties. But I feel like that's usually when.

[Kai]

I'm like, you get it. You literally get it all out in a week.

[Host]

Yeah. And then I like go through a phase where I'm, I'm like never. I can't do that. But I'll smoke mad weed. Like I don't give a fuck. But like I'm like, alcohol is seriously, like it just goes into like it does something bad to you. You know what's wild? We can video chat from space, order groceries just by talking out loud. And men have like 17 options for hair loss alone. But a bra that actually fits and feels good. Apparently too much to ask. Until now. Meet the uplift bra from Nix. That's K N I X. A wireless bra that finally delivers real lift and all day comfort. The secret? Molded cups with a built in foam panel that gently enhances your natural shape so you get a subtle boost without wires, digging or that. Why am I still wearing this moment at 3pm you asked for it. We delivered in a push up bra that doesn't dig, poke or pinch. And with an extensive size range from 28A through 42E, you'll be sure to find your perfect fit with the uplift. Try the uplift [e-mail] and use code perfectfit15 for 15% off your first order. That's kn Ix.com code perfectfit15nyx.com new year new.

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[Kai]

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[Veronica]

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[Kai]

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[Veronica]

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[Host]

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[Host]

Wasn't that delicious? So good.

[Kai]

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[Veronica]

I got it. No, I got it.

[Host]

Seriously, I insist.

[Veronica]

I insisted first.

[Host]

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[Veronica]

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[Host]

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[Veronica]

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[Kai]

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[Veronica]

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[Host]

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[Veronica]

I've been definitely drinking. I drink think not once a week for. For my, like, at work or whatever. Because you just don't have time.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

And then. Yeah. Since being here, because it's so social. Like, even after this, I have to go for a dinner. And then, like. You know what I mean? And then you're just like, okay, well.

[Host]

To be fair, I guess it like three people. Or I guess you too. You're just over there.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Host]

Three people on a couch. Just being like. I just like drinking when it's. Drinking is on such a decline. So all I should tap in to being alcoholics to make alcohol.

[Veronica]

I know that's the thing is, like, that's big alcohol.

[Host]

Yeah. Let's just tap back in.

[Veronica]

Which I respect when getting off alcohol, but I. But is it bad if I like to have a little drink?

[Kai]

Can we let loose? Can we let loose? Is it a problem?

[Drew]

Wait, Veronica, are you going to the after parties? Like, most of them?

[Veronica]

Yes. Every single one.

[Drew]

Really?

[Veronica]

Yes.

[Host]

That's awesome.

[Drew]

So, like, how long do people who are on the show, like, is Kenan going to those after parties?

[Veronica]

Kenan specifically does go sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, we'll, like, talk about the show and have some just, like, whatever, chat about it. And because you're also on such a high after, like, your adrenaline's crazy that you can't just go home and Go to bed. I mean, I can't. Some people can't.

[Drew]

I will say, I think the one that I saw you at was one of the best parties I've ever been to. Like, it was like an actual movie.

[Veronica]

Yeah. Oh, yes, yes, yes. That was really cool with Tucker. Yes, yes, yes. It was like. I forget what. I won't name the place, but I remembered it. And then I was with my sister too and I remember and my sister's like a teacher. 24 year old teacher in Canada. And like, so I, I bring her and the first person I see is like Troye Sivan. And he's like, I could do Australian accent. And then I was like, I was like, this is my sister Hannah.

[Host]

And she's like, oh my God.

[Veronica]

It was like a real like cool moment. If Troy's watching. Hi, Troy. But. But it was a moment like, it was really cool.

[Host]

Dude, that's so sweet. I love that. How many siblings do you have?

[Veronica]

Just one sister.

[Host]

Oh, that's. Yeah, that's awesome.

[Veronica]

And she my age, so.

[Host]

Yeah, I have a sister.

[Kai]

Competition.

[Veronica]

24 now. She's six years younger than me.

[Host]

She's gonna knock you off your spot, girl.

[Veronica]

I know.

[Host]

Be careful with the siblings.

[Veronica]

She's so cute. And like, I feel like the older we're older, she's getting like the gaps just getting smaller and smaller.

[Kai]

Exactly what happened with my siblings.

[Veronica]

Yeah, you guys have both a lot of sib.

[Host]

Yeah, we both have so many siblings.

[Kai]

Big old family.

[Host]

4.

[Kai]

Oh my God.

[Host]

He has six.

[Kai]

Six and a dead brother. Brother. It's all good.

[Drew]

I love it.

[Veronica]

My.

[Kai]

I get my dad's Rolex now.

[Veronica]

Do what?

[Kai]

I get my dad's Rolex now.

[Veronica]

S. You know what?

[Host]

Come up. That reminds me, I saw this tik tok. I was like, what do you mean? My grandpa just died. I thought I was going to get some land. All I got was this. And it was like an oversized lighter that worked like it. Like an oversized big lighter.

[Veronica]

God, that's awesome.

[Host]

Literally me with my mom.

[Veronica]

Are you guys youngest, Oldest, middle.

[Kai]

I'm youngest with a twin, believe it or not. And she does Internet shit. Yeah.

[Host]

And she's complete opposite. I don't think you would know of her because she's so. She is amazing. Pure and like living the way God intended for peanuts.

[Kai]

She has like a husband and a child. Could you imagine me with a child? A three year old?

[Veronica]

Honestly? Not yet.

[Kai]

Yeah. So that's like how polar opposite we are.

[Veronica]

Wow. Oh my God. How long has she been with her?

[Host]

They've been together for, like, seven years.

[Kai]

Yeah, forever. Since we were, like, 20.

[Veronica]

Do you guys want kids?

[Kai]

I want them.

[Host]

Oh, I don't know. I don't think so. Like, I'm so. I really am. I don't. I don't have any plans, period. So I'm like, I've never wanted kids. Like, that's never been a calling. Like, I've never felt, like, motherly. I'm second to oldest, and I have an age gap up of, like, 10 and then 11 years with my youngest siblings.

[Kai]

So you raised kids?

[Host]

Yeah, so when I was, like. They came into my life when I was, like, 12, so. And my parents are, like. Were, like. Grew up, really broke, working all the time. So we were, like, essentially raising my little siblings. So I think that kind of. I was like, oh, oh, no. I don't want to do this, because I'm just like, what do you mean? I can't stay after school because I got to rush home to go pick up my kids from elementary because my.

[Kai]

Mom got to go.

[Veronica]

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host]

Like, I don't want to deal with that, but I do. I unironically think I'd be an amazing mother, so I think that would be fun, But I don't know me.

[Kai]

And you talked about adopting.

[Host]

Tries to ask me if I'm gonna carry a.

[Kai]

Well, she's gonna. She's gonna surrogate for me, actually, you're next. If she says no, you're next.

[Host]

So.

[Kai]

Okay.

[Veronica]

I love to. I love to, like, ruin this tight little body. Solid core. I went to solid core twice, and we can tell.

[Kai]

It looks great.

[Host]

Throw it all away.

[Veronica]

Like, guys, it up. You guys. Workout classes are up.

[Kai]

They hurt. They're hot.

[Veronica]

They're terrible.

[Host]

I'm like.

[Veronica]

Literally, I'm, like, about to pass out. Is the worst thing of my life.

[Host]

No, it really is. It's like the Hunger Games.

[Veronica]

But then I felt so fit for two days after, like, the. The h. The.

[Kai]

The endorphins.

[Veronica]

The, like, tightness of. It lasted for two days.

[Host]

I was like, it does give you a strength. Crazy.

[Kai]

Do you want kids?

[Veronica]

Yes, I do want kids, but I think it'll happen.

[Host]

Like.

[Veronica]

Like, honestly, I think, like, five years from now.

[Kai]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's a perfect timeline.

[Veronica]

And in truth, I just think. Yeah, not that I. I think I'm a bit of a late bloomer. And, like, I think everything in my life is just a little. A little later.

[Host]

Well, statistically, women who have kids in their later 30s and 30s in general live longer.

[Kai]

Is that something you want to do.

[Host]

Because you have more financial, emotional phys. Like, your security overall is so much more like that.

[Veronica]

That's what I'm trying to get down.

[Host]

So then you are more likely to not have. Have, like, as stressful of a life, because I.

[Kai]

It's psychological, too. It's like. It's even primal, where it's like, oh, I have to be alive longer to care for this child longer. So you're, like, like, not taking as many risks, and you're doing, like, all of these, like, really safe things. And also, chemically, like, totally crazy.

[Host]

Yeah. I think if I had a kid, I would. I've always said if I do have a kid, I would have a kid 35 to 40. Like, if. If. If the body can do it and I end up pregnant at 40, I'd be like, hey, period. Period, Dot. That's my baby. My mom had, like, I'll be 70 when they're 30, and they're gonna be, like, overly existential. But, baby, my mama died when I was 18. You're gonna live. You're gonna live if mommy dies early. Okay. You're gonna live. You're gonna live really good, actually. So I think I'll just do it.

[Drew]

Wait, Veronica, did you know that Drew's mom had him at 60?

[Kai]

She was a geriatric pregnancy. Yeah.

[Host]

Wait, your mom did have you when she was 40, though, right?

[Kai]

Yeah, she was old. Oh, my go, too.

[Host]

Period.

[Veronica]

Oh, my God.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

Was it planned?

[Kai]

No, no, it wasn't neither. Neither of us. But then they were like, oh, a cute little boy. Yeah, we can do it. Let's do it. Let's get married. And then, like, three months later, Madeline showed up in the womb, and they were like, wow. Oh, my God.

[Veronica]

Oh, my God.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Kai]

They didn't know they had twins for, like, months and months and months.

[Veronica]

Wow. Until she was 40 when she had you guys.

[Kai]

Yeah. She might not have been exactly 40, but she was. She was geriatric or considered a geriatric pregnancy.

[Veronica]

She was old, which I feel like everyone now is like. I feel like everyone's having kids way, way, way later.

[Kai]

We can't buy houses, and we can't have kids.

[Veronica]

No. And also because of COVID I feel like we're all stunted over those years. Like, we truly, like, I don't know what. How old I would be now, but whatever. Two years of my life gone.

[Kai]

Yeah. It is so wild.

[Host]

No, I mean, also, this year. This past year has just been me laughing at myself. Cause I'm like, damn, I've always heard the term arrested development, not only because of the show, but just in general. And I was always like, that's so funny. A lot of people do have that. And then this past year, I was.

[Kai]

Like, oh, I have.

[Host]

Oh, my God.

[Veronica]

The calls from inside the house.

[Kai]

I think I'm gonna die in this house.

[Veronica]

But I was gonna say the. The 20s versus the 30s here. That 30, I've never felt younger. Like, that's come around again where, like, in. I feel like I like 20 something. 26 to 27 and 28. I just kind of, like, stopped, like, partying, whatever. And then now I'm like, let's go again.

[Kai]

Kai says the same thing. Yeah, I feel like 48. I'm not saying it's the youngest he's ever felt.

[Drew]

I'm elder.

[Host]

He's pushing 52.

[Drew]

I'm Elder Geno.

[Host]

He saw Pharrell's speech when Pharrell at the Grammys was like, I'm 52. I don't work. My life is amazing. And I was like, preach this. It's. It's tea.

[Drew]

Because it's not accurate what you're saying. Okay. There's like some quote where it's like, no one feels older than, like, a 26 year old and who feels like they're running out of time. And I'm like, that shit is so real. Because genuinely, after, like, I think once I turned 30, there was. I had a month where I was like, this is the worst shit in the world because I'm being contrarian where everyone says it's fine. And I'm like, no, this shit actually sucks really bad. And then after a month, I was like, this is insane that I thought that I had no time. When I was 24, I remember being a year out of college and being like, I am so old just because I'm not in college anymore. And I was just like, I don't know. It does. It's really weird that I'm in that.

[Kai]

Era right now of.

[Drew]

Yeah, it's like.

[Kai]

Where I'm geriatric. It's over for me. Like, I've aged out. Like, that's where I'm at.

[Veronica]

That's one thing I learned. I was like, there's so many. I was like, there's only one shot you can't believe. Like, whatever. I'm like, no, there's actually a million is what I've learned.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

Constant. Even if I screw up, whatever I'm doing, doing now, I'll figure it out again. Like, I just know that, like that's how I, how I feel now. But maybe that's, maybe that's 30 talking. But it's really. Yeah, like I, I feel, I feel young but also. Yeah, maybe the, it's the kids thing that kind of gets to me sometimes.

[Drew]

Also doing comedy stuff or creative stuff in general, it really does push Your timeline back 10 years on top of the already pushback timeline that we're under. I forget who said it, but somebody, some comedian was like, everything that happens to your friends that are choosing normal careers happens to you. But like 10 years later, that's so true. And it's, it's really freaky because I remember oh over Covid, my best friend from high school who like went into finance over Covid, he was like, I'm going to buy a house. And I was like, what are you talking about? And like he's about to buy a house.

[Veronica]

Yeah.

[Drew]

I was like, dude, yeah, I'm elder Gen Alpha. Like I can't do that yet.

[Veronica]

Gen X.

[Drew]

No, I'm Gen Alpha.

[Kai]

She's elder Gen Alpha, guys.

[Drew]

But yeah, it's just like the ten year wait.

[Kai]

Elder Gen Alpha is really funny. I need to give you your flowers.

[Drew]

Yeah, thank you.

[Host]

That's.

[Veronica]

Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. I don't know when that will happen for me, but I think it will happen for me at some point in my life. Don't know when. Don't know when.

[Host]

I think I just, I unironically have such a disconnect from numbers 27 right now. To me, just the only thing about it that makes me laugh or uncomfortable is it just sounds funny. Like the only thing that makes me uncomfortable about my age ever is usually I'm like, girl, why are you lying? Like, you're not like, you're not that serious.

[Veronica]

29 was weird. It's not 30 and it's not 28. I'm like, what the hell is this.

[Host]

Middle of the road?

[Veronica]

Like I just said 30 for the. When I was 29. So I've been 30 for two years because I was like, what the hell is 29?

[Host]

Yeah, I, I also, I, I've been telling people I've. I've been 27 for three months. Which that's just a bad habit. I do. But I have to do it because then if I don't do it then I think I'm like, I have to prep myself mentally.

[Veronica]

Yes.

[Host]

So I think maybe that's. I. In my head I've been, I've told someone, literally, I think in October, I was Like, I. I also have an issue where I overshoot my age. I don't. I don't think I've ever been somebody to play younger. I have. The. What I would argue is more annoying is a younger person who likes to be like, no, but like, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In my 26 years of life, like, like, what the are you talking about?

[Veronica]

Totally.

[Host]

So I'm so curious. I do think that will hit me though, cuz I kind of think it's inevitable. Especially like in a digital age. Like, age gets brought up so often and thrown at your face because like, now 15 year olds are like, really?

[Kai]

See, the thing is, is I was that person. Like when Shane Dawson was making YouTube videos when he was 24, I was like, pack it up, bag of bones. And now I'm 27 and making YouTube videos.

[Veronica]

No, no, no.

[Host]

To me, one of my favorite mishaps, media wise, I can remember off the top of my head is the Dolan twins.

[Kai]

And there was that fire.

[Host]

And they posted a picture of what was like the clouds from a huge, like, wildfire. And they were like, the clouds are crazy.

[Kai]

The sunset is gorgeous. Yes. Mighty people were dying.

[Veronica]

Oh, and of course, well, the clouds. Classic with the Toy Story hat.

[Kai]

Oh, Logan Paul.

[Host]

Oh, my God.

[Veronica]

So y' all.

[Kai]

Soon.

[Veronica]

But that didn't. That didn't age poorly. It was just like, instantly.

[Kai]

It was instantaneous. Like, oh, my God.

[Veronica]

Like, really never seen show, like, what the, like, content creator's brain really looks like.

[Host]

Also, it was. It should have been like. It should have been the first, like. Guys, guys, let's back up. Let's back up a little bit. Like, that should have been the moment. We were like, okay, we're taking it too far.

[Kai]

We saw raw footage of.

[Host]

I have it on that phone. I'm gonna. I have to find it.

[Kai]

Preview. Is it Logan Paul or is it. It's Logan Paul and you had. Or we have raw footage of Logan Paul doing, like, takes.

[Host]

Oh, my God. Long enough that I can post that.

[Kai]

It's the craziest you'll ever see in your life. Like, terrifying. Like, really, really ooky, spooky, like lines like yelling at people, like, really angry and then turning it back on and like, being normal.

[Veronica]

And you're. You filmed this? You're there in person?

[Host]

No, no, I was on this Brat show.

[Veronica]

What show?

[Host]

It's like there was this Groundhog Day. There was this. A production company called Brat, and they were doing really, like, random series, like just copies of movies. Like, the thing I was in was Essentially a bootleg rip of Groundhog Day. But it was like me and like a bunch of other like, people who.

[Kai]

Had following Connor's story was in it.

[Host]

Connor story was in that character? Yeah.

[Veronica]

Nice. My brain's like this, dude.

[Drew]

It's so.

[Host]

Oh my God. And I was. I was in it because Josh was with me and we like, he has literally like six hours of footage of me making fun of, like, the whole thing. He has footage of me interacting with young blood in 2019 and calling him Lil Xan three times in his face. And. And like, he kept being like, your eyebrows, Your eyebrows are beautiful. Cuz I had like orange hair and orange eyebrows. So he was like, oh, you cut fire. So exciting, like that whole thing. And I was just like, beautiful eyebrow.

[Kai]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

It's like, l. You're so crazy.

[Veronica]

I didn't realize how famous he.

[Host]

Dude, he's huge.

[Veronica]

I had. I had zero concept, but I respect it.

[Kai]

Henas.

[Veronica]

He seems to have a lot of joy.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

And you know what?

[Host]

I'm not gonna just like Jojo Si. I could see Jojo Siwan. I'm like, that girl's happy.

[Veronica]

Happy.

[Host]

I almost said blood orange. Young blood. I see you.

[Veronica]

You look so blood orange.

[Host]

Period blood on my Chinese blood. But we did that. And through that, I got really close to the DOP on that set. Had just done the movie with Logan Paul that he had done that year. Some random fuck ass movie. But he said that on the last day of like wrapping our show, when we were leaving, we were in the car and I was sitting next to him and I was like, we had become close at this point. Then he was like, okay, now that, like, we're going our separate ways, I have to show you something that I didn't want to show you the beginning because I knew you would, like, hound me for it. And he said when he was on set, Logan's phone died and his camera died. So he literally just looked up at this guy and was like, give me your phone, give me your phone. Just one second. And took his phone to vlog part of the set with. And it's just this footage of Logan Paul in a hole in the middle of Joshua Tree, standing in this hole, going, hey, what's up? Hey. Hey, what's up, you guys? And like, it's doing that for 30 seconds straight and he just like, I guess he doesn't find his spark, so he just kind of like puts the phone away.

[Kai]

He gives up.

[Host]

And this guy air dropped that to me and I just have been like, Sitting on that. Cuz I got. I was so scared of, like, I.

[Veronica]

Need you to show me.

[Kai]

Yeah, I'll be.

[Host]

And that's. We'll insert it.

[Veronica]

Insert it. That's crazy.

[Host]

That's gold. That's. So I have literally just. I love. Yeah. Should I bid it before showing it? I'm gonna do a bidding. I'm gonna do an ebay upload and just a screenshot. Be like, who would like to bid on this raw footage of Logan Paul?

[Kai]

Raw footage.

[Host]

Oh, yeah. I was so scared that he would, like, God, sue me or something.

[Veronica]

Have you seen him? Or like, wait, did you meet him that day?

[Host]

Or.

[Veronica]

No, no, no, no.

[Host]

I had nothing to do with that. I just literally got sent.

[Veronica]

Have you guys met him ever?

[Host]

No. I'm like, I feel like maybe at.

[Kai]

VidCon, we, like, touch shoulders or something.

[Host]

I can't remember ever interacting with them because those were like.

[Kai]

I'll never forget. David Dobrik said that he thought I was on ketamine. He was like, you two are like the guys that, like, do drugs. And I was like, yeah, to me and Drew. We were like, no, we were like.

[Veronica]

That because you're weird.

[Kai]

Exactly. Because I like Adventure Time. I like drugs.

[Host]

Oh, because you heard Garnet. You heard Garnet through the walls singing her ass off. And I think I'm on ketamine. Yeah. He literally accused us of being on ketamine. And then we were like, actually, at the time, I didn't know what ketamine was.

[Kai]

And I was like, honestly, same.

[Host]

Yeah, we didn't even know when.

[Veronica]

That must have been so young.

[Host]

Yeah, we were like 18. Oh, my God. And he was like, you guys are on ketamine, hun. We were like, what? And then he was like, your feet feel gummy, huh?

[Kai]

Your feet feel like marshmallow.

[Host]

He said something like that. So we were all in the. Me and Drew were in the elevator with him. We were like, no. And then he also, mind you, the camera in his face like this, like, not recording. But he, like, had gotten so used to covering his face.

[Kai]

You know, that arm was strong as. Because it was DSLR cameras that they were holding. Like, their shoulder blades go crazy. I've been seeing this guy, like, do reverse looks maxing on himself where he, like, is only training one half of his body. That's what vloggers look like. Just really strong.

[Host]

We have to maybe we go back to that because I actually think, like, we need to go back to long format YouTube vlogging. Also.

[Kai]

Sorry if me and Kai's vibe is off. Clavicular got frame mogged by a fragile.

[Drew]

Didn't check in on us.

[Kai]

Yeah. Which is really fucked up.

[Veronica]

I don't get.

[Host]

I unironically don't have that kind of boy content on my feed.

[Kai]

On top of that, clavicular almost caught a career ending cortisol spike after a larp. Max Stacy tried gesture fying him on stream by calling him a good boy while he was mid mog between two low tier normies at as you guys didn't see too much and it's like really up.

[Drew]

You didn't even say anything to us. How I'm like been trying to not cry, but it's like, ew.

[Veronica]

Oh my God.

[Host]

I mean, I'm sorry, guys.

[Kai]

Yeah, clavicular was mid gesture gooning when a group of voids came and spiked his cortisol levels. Is ignoring the foids while munting and moggin boys having the more useful.

[Host]

Cuz it feels like girls don't care.

[Veronica]

As much as like, absolutely. I've been eating your bread again.

[Host]

Yeah, I think girls bread is.

[Veronica]

Girls bread is fully vodka milk too full. Two pieces of toast before it came here.

[Host]

Now that the boys have taken the ed shit, like girls are free. We can like drive around and go to fast food and whatnot and y' all are stuck in that.

[Kai]

But yeah, we were. Me and Kai were Chad fishing in the club and then two foids came up to us and tried to gesture magas. I don't know. I think it's female.

[Drew]

It's where incels call females.

[Veronica]

No, what is it? Say it again.

[Kai]

Foid. Foid.

[Drew]

What does it stand for?

[Kai]

Oh, my God, I have no idea. It actually might be a slur. Oh God, it might be.

[Drew]

Will you like, do just enough research to make the jokes? Firearm owner's identification. Sure.

[Kai]

Google, that's what I'm referencing.

[Drew]

Wait, let me.

[Kai]

Not the other bad thing.

[Drew]

Oh, female is a derogatory abbreviation for femoid, which is a portamento combining female and humanoid. Or Android. We should have done the research, man. We went into this blind and we up. We up. We didn't know that it was direct.

[Kai]

But our cortisol levels have been spiked after clavicular. Got frame on. Yeah, so just check in next time.

[Drew]

Please check.

[Kai]

This is just us.

[Veronica]

I apologize.

[Kai]

Like putting like, wait, low key.

[Host]

I need to open like a boy esthetician clinic. Like I need to do like there's dude wipes. I need to like build out a barber shop.

[Veronica]

Shop.

[Host]

Like it looks like a barber Shop. But it's an esthetician office for boys to get filler, cuz. Boys.

[Veronica]

Boys getting filler.

[Host]

Like, that's.

[Kai]

First of all, it's in.

[Host]

Because, like, a lot. I feel like a lot of guys are, like, on OIC and getting fillers and. But that goes under the table cuz people are too. Like, it's easier to see if a girl's boobs get smaller.

[Veronica]

It's also, like, just not like you're not even looking for it.

[Host]

Yeah, you're not looking for it anymore.

[Kai]

We're talking about boobs.

[Host]

We're talking about your tips.

[Kai]

Thank you.

[Host]

But yeah, I'm gonna start eyes of here.

[Veronica]

Hey, Eyes of here.

[Kai]

Sor.

[Drew]

And yeah, it's crazy how similar we are, because I was like, for so long, I've been like, we need a male gyno. We should have gynecologists for men.

[Host]

What does that have to do with what I was saying, Kai?

[Drew]

Because it's similar. I mean, it's like the exact same thing for guys. It's like a medical thing for guys. And I totally agree with you, and you probably agree with me.

[Host]

Wait, you think men should have pap smears?

[Drew]

I think men should have to get in the stirrups, and then Drew agrees with me.

[Kai]

I. I agree.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Yeah. We should have to spread our totally.

[Host]

That's how Y' all should have to get your prostates checks. Y' all should have grabbing our ankles.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Host]

That's crazy work. I can't believe the guy.

[Kai]

They bend us over the table.

[Drew]

Do you know what they make you do for a. A colonoscopy? He literally said, grab your ankles to me.

[Host]

No, he did not.

[Drew]

And I did good.

[Host]

You did not.

[Drew]

And it was crazy like this.

[Kai]

I just feel good.

[Veronica]

Well, I was like. I was like, what is my story? No, no. Well, what are you gonna say?

[Host]

I was gonna say we could wrap it up. Do you want to share any media? We, at the end of episodes do like media. Whether it's like, movies, shows, or music or anything you like to share.

[Veronica]

Nirvana, the band, the movie. Haven't seen it, but I'm. I'm taking your word for it. It's gonna be amazing. What else did I talk about? Oh, God. Survivor season 50.

[Kai]

I am so, so.

[Host]

I've never seen a season of Survivor.

[Kai]

I'm Survivor pilled.

[Veronica]

I'm surv. So, you know, whatever. Work at a wonderful place where you meet a lot of wonderful people. I've never been more starstruck than when I went to a Survivor party. And met the cast of like the last three seasons. I was like, they're having a barbecue. They're the sweetest normal people ever. I was.

[Kai]

They're really just normal people.

[Veronica]

I couldn't believe it, but. Oh, Survivor 50.

[Host]

Oh.

[Veronica]

Oh, you. Haha. You clowns it out. Oh my God. What else? What else, you guys? Maybe that's it. And then Saturday Night Live.

[Host]

Guys, check out Saturday Night Live. It's this small production company. It's really so cute.

[Veronica]

Hey, we're all trying. I'll say that. We're all trying. All right.

[Kai]

And you'll get there. One day you'll get here. One day you'll be here.

[Veronica]

I would love to. Oh my God.

[Host]

But, ah, well, thank you so much.

[Veronica]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Kai]

Genuinely.

[Veronica]

I'm such a big fan.

[Host]

It was amazing. And I'll be seeing.

[Kai]

This might be one of my most.

[Host]

I'll be seeing you on my tv.

[Kai]

This might be one of my most favorite episodes ever, by the way.

[Host]

Oh my God.

[Veronica]

Gigatron maxing. I could never like what you guys said to me. I could not wait.

[Kai]

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