Body count reveal w/ Owen

Summary

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Emergency Intercom – "Body Count Reveal w/ Owen"

Released: December 12, 2025
Hosts: Enya Umanzor & Drew Phillips
Guest: Owen

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Episode Overview

In this candid, chaotic, and consistently hilarious episode, Enya and Drew welcome their friend Owen for a freewheeling discussion that bounces from baby names, body count revelations, dietary quirks, and embarrassing stories, to deep dives into therapy, emotional openness, and musical obsessions. The trio, alongside producer Kai, oscillate between embarrassing confessions and sharp comedic banter, crafting a uniquely intimate vibe that feels both deeply personal and effortlessly relatable.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. On Being Bad at Having Guests

• The hosts quickly acknowledge their own lack of formal structure with guests, joking about never preparing questions and instead just “hanging out.” (03:59)
• Quote:
  • Drew (03:59): "We got literally, like, a bunch of people were upset. We had our friend Violet on the other day, and, like, we are just so bad at having guests on."

2. The Baby Name Wishlist Game

• Conversation turns to baby names they’d choose, dipping into the ridiculous.
• Names discussed: Opal, Mantis, Karma, Gadget/Gidget.
• Quote:
  • Enya (05:53): "Opal. Mantis. Karma. And Gadget. Or Gadget?"
  • Owen (06:08): "I'm obsessed. Mantis is pushing me."

3. On Neuralink & Self-Destructive Instincts

• Enya shares her past desire to be an early Neuralink tester, which Drew equates to unnoticed self-harm.
• Drew jokes about suicidal ideation red flags.
• Quote:
  • Drew (06:19): "Which, very similarly to my year of rest and relaxation, is a sign of self harm that you don't recognize until it's too late."

4. Changing Attitudes Toward Kids

• Drew reflects on going from being grossed out by kids to now loving them (even "white babies").
• Prozac’s impact on Drew’s emotions and crying less.
• Quote:
  • Drew (08:25): "Okay, so I used to think babies were disgusting. I will. Yeah. I used to be like, why?"

5. Crying Over Gay Love

• Owen and Enya bond over being deeply moved by queer romance stories ("Heated Rivalry") while others have more carnal reactions.
• Quote:
  • Owen (09:33): "I'm sobbing watching it, being like, men can love each other."
  • Enya (09:40): "No, that's literally. That's my take. I'm like, this is so major. Like, a slow burn gay love show. Like, that's so intense."

6. Body Count & Relationship to Sex

(Timestamp ~16:10)

• Drew jokes about wanting to raise his "body count" by six.
• Enya contrasts, casually revealing hers is much higher, framing sexual experience as a "primal exchange."
• Unpacking sexual attitudes—Enya’s and her friends’ approaches vs. Owen and Drew’s monogamously-inclined, lower numbers.
• Quote:
  • Drew (16:24): "I want to go up 6."
  • Enya (16:42): "I actually like, more like a hundred. Probably not 100, but like..."

7. Vegetarianism, "Microdosing Meat," and Rotting Prosciutto

(Timestamp ~19:00)

• Owen’s vegetarian journey started as a dare in 5th grade, but lately he’s been dabbling (“microdosing”) with a bite of steak.
• The group shares horror stories about rotting meat in the fridge and the lingering scent.
• The conversation lingers on the visceral grossness but finds the humor and existential reflection (“the fridge keeps the score”).
• Quote:
  • Enya (20:53): "I smelt like essentially rotting flesh for the first time. And I was like, that's what's happening inside of my guts."
  • Drew (22:35): "The fridge keeps the score."

8. Health Fixations, Canker Sores, and Poop Pic Analysis

(Timestamp ~25:00)

• Canker sores, kidney stones, and candid confessions of putting salt on wounds.
• Kai uploads pictures of his poop to ChatGPT on doctor’s advice, seeking "perfect cartoon poops."
• Hilarious, TMI territory about digestive health, dietary obsessions, and why some people are hyperfocused on their bodies.
• Quote:
  • Kai (34:47): "It looked like if you put the Fibonacci spiral over it, it would have lined up perfectly, I swear to God. But you know the poop emoji? Yeah, it looked like that."
  • Owen (32:41): "Literally, they're like put a strainer underneath when you pee. Because we need to test them to make sure they're kidneys heals."

9. Therapy, Medication, and Emotional Evolution

(Timestamp ~60:00)

• Drew opens up about past mental health struggles, panic attacks, and crying spells—before and after starting therapy and medication.
• The group discusses stigma and personal timelines for seeking help.
• Quote:
  • Drew (62:44): "Therapy, dude, therapy changed my life."

10. Living in the Neighborhood: Outsider Vibes

(Timestamp ~64:00)

• Enya and Drew reflect on being young, artsy, queer, and possibly a bit intimidating to their straight-laced, stroller-pushing neighbors.
• The hosts recall being mistaken for a couple (“Our American dream!”) and how the neighborhood's perception shifted as more diverse guests frequented.
• Quote:
  • Drew (65:15): "They literally slowly turned on us. Crazy. And they see how many people, like, come in, come in and out of this house..."

11. Musicals & Theater Kid Confessions

(Timestamp ~41:00)

• Owen and Drew bond over being theater kids; Enya laments not joining theater for fear of being outed as queer, revealing small town Texas anxieties.
• Discussion of problematic high school productions, favorite musicals, and the emotional impact of seeing shows like Wicked live.
• Quote:
  • Owen (43:01): "I was a huge theater. I mean, that's. I was. I love theater. I love Broadway. I love everything."
  • Drew (52:46): "I love Wicked that much."

12. Celebrity Encounters & Crying Over Concerts

(Timestamp ~53:00)

• The group shares emotional reactions to seeing celebrities in real life (Stevie Wonder, Beyoncé, Sabrina Carpenter).
• Discussing the ungraspable quality of stars, and when overwhelming talent moves you to tears.
• Quote:
  • Owen (53:43): "I saw Stevie Wonder… perform live. And I was sobbing..."
  • Enya (54:29): "I had a similar experience with Beyoncé, like, at Renaissance Tour…"

13. Social Media, Bots & Attention

(Timestamp ~75:45)

• Banter about Instagram settings, bots, engagement, and the desire for comments, even from bots.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Owen (14:20): "Wow. You must have had fun making that film. You know what I mean? Like, so mean, dude."
  (about the ultimate lukewarm feedback)

• Drew (22:35): "The fridge keeps the score."
  (riffing on trauma discourse, about rotting food’s lingering smell)

• Kai (34:47): "It looked like if you put the Fibonacci spiral over it, it would have lined up perfectly, I swear to God. But you know the poop emoji? Yeah, it looked like that."
  (on his poop pic saga)

• Owen (32:41): "Imagine me, by the way, I'm in college. Imagine me. I'm like, like, literally had a strainer in my back pocket. Like, you cooking? I'm like, no, this is where I pee."

• Drew (52:46): "I love Wicked that much....I saw her in public...I started to cry. Like, I literally had. Like, I've never done that before, and I felt so embarrassed. And she was like, why are you crying?"

• Enya (68:11): "That album has probably will probably be my most streamed album for 2026. Like, I love."

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Important Timestamps & Segment Highlights

• 03:59-04:25: Hosts and Owen acknowledge their improvisational approach to hosting guests.
• 05:53-07:02: Baby name wishlists & banter about family-building as queer people.
• 08:25-09:03: Shifting perspectives on children and admitting anti-baby biases changing over time.
• 09:33-10:01: Emotional response to "Heated Rivalry" as a boundary-breaking queer show.
• 16:10-18:03: Body count candidness, how sexual experience varies, and feelings around monogamy vs. casual sex.
• 19:00-22:35: Vegetarian journeys, meat microdosing, and fridge horror stories.
• 25:00-36:00: Health woes, canker sore strategies, kidney stones, and “poop as art.”
• 60:00-64:07: Candid mental health struggles, therapy journeys, and the power of medication.
• 64:00-67:16: Outsider status in a suburban neighborhood, queer visibility, and weird neighbor energy.
• 41:00-54:47: Musicals, problematic school theater, and crying over live music.

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Recurring Themes & Running Bits

• Over-complimenting vs. Awkward Silence: Laughing about giving exaggerated praise as the alternative to awkwardness or being unable to lie.
• Pride in TMI: The group regularly overshares about bodies, digestion, sex, and health in a tone that's self-aware, proud, and fundamentally comic.
• Queerness & Self-Acceptance: Exchanges about sexuality, community, and queer art are threaded throughout (from “Heated Rivalry” to school theater shenanigans).
• Therapy, Crying, & Prozac: Emotional openness, how everyone’s changed their relationship to crying as adults, and antidepressant stories recur.

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Tone & Vibe

The episode is classic Emergency Intercom: deeply irreverent, warm, self-deprecating, and infectiously unfiltered. Banter flows as naturally as confessions, creating a space for both genuine honesty and comedic exaggeration. The podders aren’t afraid to spiral into silly, circular bits, but always return to a place of real connection.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

If you missed this episode, you missed a whirlwind of sex-positive, body-honest, and musically obsessed conversation, peppered with the sort of sharing that only happens among real friends. From iconic musical theater mishaps to confessional discussions of therapy and mental health—and with more talk of bodily functions than you could ever have expected—this episode brings both laughs and heart. Whether you want a glimpse into the realness of queer friendship, a refresher on why you really should check the back of your fridge, or just a good laugh about baby names and Instagram bots, this episode delivers.

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Transcript

[Owen]

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[Enya]

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[Owen]

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[Enya]

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[Drew]

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[Owen]

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[Kai]

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[Owen]

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[Kai]

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[Owen]

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[Kai]

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[Owen]

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[Kai]

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[Drew]

We're here.

[Enya]

Hi. Tell us about yourself.

[Drew]

Oh, my freaking God.

[Owen]

Do I have to?

[Drew]

We got literally, like, a bunch of people were upset. We had our friend Violet on the other day, and, like, we are just so bad at having guests on. Cause we're just like, wait.

[Owen]

Yeah, but by the way, that was us when we did my podcast. I didn't ask you one question. Yeah, sorry.

[Enya]

That's what we were. We were talking about it, like, literally this morning. I was like, oh, I didn't, like, prepare any questions, but I was like, no, this is a key.

[Drew]

That's my friend.

[Owen]

Sorry, we're just hanging. But also, if you had questions for me, I would be like, what? Do you know what I mean?

[Enya]

Like me at dinner, filming adult, actually.

[Drew]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we've tried that before with, like, Conan and like, Josie. We've been like, what's a.

[Owen]

Who's Josie?

[Drew]

Josiah? You haven't met Josiah?

[Owen]

I don't know.

[Enya]

I don't know.

[Owen]

Josiah. Wait, I need to be in with Josiah immediately. Where's Josiah? Josiah, sit with that. She moved right up the street.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Owen]

Get here right now. Would Josiah, like. Would she like, what's her vibe? Would she like me?

[Drew]

Well, Josiah's a boy.

[Enya]

It's often confused, actually.

[Drew]

So amazing. Wait, I need to show you Josiah, because then you're gonna be like, oh, my God, that's amazing.

[Enya]

She's a boy.

[Drew]

She is a boy.

[Enya]

But no, I call him my girl. That's my girl.

[Owen]

Wait, Josiah. Josiah. Oh, my God. Josiah. Official.

[Enya]

Very official. He's in a band.

[Owen]

Wait, Josiah's hot?

[Drew]

Yeah. He's gaggy. He's gaggy.

[Owen]

Wait, wait. Josiah and I are going out later.

[Enya]

Yes.

[Owen]

Josie, watch out. I love the name Josiah. I was. I was gonna say it's one on my, like, kids name. What is that called? When you have a wish list of kids names, what is that called?

[Drew]

Like your.

[Owen]

What is that called?

[Drew]

I don't know, because I.

[Owen]

Do you have one in your phone?

[Drew]

No, I. I'm not kidding.

[Enya]

Oh, I do.

[Owen]

So do I.

[Drew]

Do you?

[Enya]

Opal.

[Owen]

Opal.

[Enya]

Mantis.

[Owen]

Mantis.

[Enya]

Karma.

[Owen]

Karma.

[Enya]

And Gadget. Or Gadget? What are yours?

[Owen]

Gadget or Gidget? I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed.

[Drew]

Like, no, no. Mantis is pushing me.

[Enya]

Well, famously. I want the neuralink installed in my brain. Like, if I could have been the first, I would have been the first. I don't think I want it anymore, but.

[Drew]

Which, very similarly to my year of rest and relaxation, is a sign of self harm that you don't recognize until it's too late. If somebody is thinking about an early.

[Enya]

How do you.

[Drew]

It's like. It's like your friends who suffer from suicidal ideation if suddenly they're like, I'm going on a trip by myself for a week in a different country I've never been in to With a language that's. That's a bad sign. I get it.

[Enya]

Wanting to disappear. So how do you harm yourself?

[Drew]

Oh, my God.

[Owen]

Oh, that's such a great question.

[Enya]

Thank you.

[Owen]

I actually write down a lot of baby names that are really harmful. I think I would actually. My names are, like, quality, but not Margaret.

[Enya]

Love that. Love Margaret. Love Margaret.

[Owen]

Not Qua. It's K, W, A, L, I. Oh. Because this is what I'm thinking of. Think about this. My kid's going to be. I have a boyfriend who's Caucasian, so my kid's going to be half white, half black. Well, actually, it doesn't work like that. Because we're too men.

[Drew]

No. And you know what?

[Enya]

Like, I didn't even put that together. I wouldn't have.

[Drew]

I'm not getting.

[Enya]

Well, two guys can have babies now. You can mix sperm and make a baby. So, babes, y' all are out. Y' all are.

[Owen]

See, there we go.

[Enya]

We're taking.

[Drew]

The girl's been, like, good without you guys for a second. The fuck the girl. You're my Red, Babe, I'm going to beat your ass.

[Owen]

Would you. Would you carry my kid if I asked?

[Drew]

Absolutely not, by the way.

[Owen]

Totally.

[Enya]

Yeah. Like, she won't even do it for me.

[Drew]

There is. I am not kidding. I am so. I've never, like, yearned for having children. Now I. Even still, I'm like, I think I never wanted to be a mother and blah, blah, blah. And, like, that's. I. That's how I go. It's never been. I don't have any natural, like, oh, my God. I love, Like, I.

[Owen]

So when you see a kid, are you, like, ew, or are you, like, not?

[Drew]

No, I actually, I love kids.

[Enya]

Like, up until two years ago, you were very, like, yucky. But, like, you. Yuck.

[Owen]

Yuck.

[Enya]

But, like, literally, you, as of late, have been obsessed with babies and even white babies. Babies, like, and you couldn't look at a white baby, like, six months ago. Just be.

[Owen]

Wait.

[Drew]

Okay, so I used to think babies were disgusting. I will. Yeah. I used to be like, why?

[Owen]

Because they're dirty.

[Drew]

Well, I just thought dirty.

[Owen]

Wait, why? Because they're. Because they're disgusting. Yeah.

[Drew]

No, Well, I just, like. Well, of course I came from a place of. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's not that serious, actually.

[Owen]

No.

[Enya]

Be emotional.

[Owen]

No. Come on.

[Enya]

We won't cry.

[Drew]

No.

[Enya]

Cry.

[Drew]

No. I actually wish I could cry. I'm not kidding. My Prozac has really dulled. I used to be such a crybaby. And now you can now. Like, I. I cry still very often, but not the way I used to. Like, my sister crying.

[Owen]

Were you crying? It's time me looking at Drew, I'm.

[Enya]

Like, literally, literally all the time. Like, and it would be triggered by, like, the most random. Do you cry?

[Drew]

Cry baby?

[Owen]

I cry every second of every day.

[Enya]

Really.

[Owen]

Two nights ago, I was sitting in my bed watching heated rivalry.

[Enya]

I was gonna bring that up. I was gonna bring that up.

[Owen]

Have you seen this? Do you know about this?

[Drew]

Everyone's watching, and I think I just need to watch.

[Owen]

So everyone's reaction is like, I'm hard. I don't know what to do. I'm jerking off. These guys are so hot. That's the normal reaction.

[Enya]

That's my reaction.

[Owen]

I'm sobbing watching it, Being like, men.

[Drew]

Can love each other.

[Owen]

Love is love.

[Enya]

No, that's literally. That's my take. I'm like, this is so major. Like, a slow burn gay love show. Like, that's so intense. And it's also very real to, like, a lot of experiences I've had. Where I'm like, this person won't even, like, touch me, but they will have sex with me.

[Owen]

Well, I was.

[Enya]

That makes sense.

[Owen]

Yes. Yeah. And I'm here for you. I was crying also, because I was like, you can say it.

[Enya]

You're gay.

[Owen]

You know what I mean?

[Enya]

I'm like, come out.

[Owen]

It was hilarious because my mom was watching it, and she was texting me, like, this is hot. Like, oh, so gay. Gay guys are getting it. You know what I mean? And I was like, that's not the point. The point is that they need to be themselves.

[Drew]

Like, honestly, I literally love that because that's how I feel about, like, any sapphic thing I've ever felt. Like, I'm not kidding.

[Enya]

Like, have you seen Carol?

[Owen]

No. I know, I know.

[Enya]

Please watch Carol.

[Owen]

I know. Somebody just had this. Did we talk about this? No.

[Enya]

We might have maybe.

[Drew]

Who did I talk to? I think we did, because I told you. Maybe I told you that I watched.

[Enya]

That with a portrait of a lady.

[Owen]

No, you told me this. Yeah, I told me this.

[Drew]

I was like, I had this.

[Owen]

I'm having deja vu about Carol.

[Enya]

Well, have you seen Portrait of a Lady on Fire?

[Owen]

No. And you can't ask me if I've seen movies, because the only. I haven't seen any movies I've seen. I've seen basically heated rivalry and call me by your name. Two of the same.

[Enya]

Yeah, the exact.

[Drew]

Are you, like, a series watcher? Movie watcher? Like, what's the content you intake?

[Owen]

Well, I love, like, old. Like, how to lose a guy in 10 days.

[Drew]

I love that. I love that.

[Owen]

Like, I say old.

[Enya]

Bring it back, by the way.

[Owen]

But 2000s movie, I love. I love nostalgia. So I'm, like, obsessed with, like, things that I've watched before. So if you show me something, then I'll rewatch it and love it, but I can't watch something new.

[Drew]

Hey, Kai.

[Enya]

Hey, Kai's lady Strong.

[Kai]

Hey, guys. Oh, did you want to start recording? Just kidding.

[Owen]

Oh, my God. I was so upset. I was like, I love that beginning. My heart just dropped.

[Kai]

I like. I like to start out with a joke.

[Owen]

Wait, so, Kai, how are you?

[Kai]

I'm good. Sorry I couldn't make it. I was doing a huge brand deal, so I had to go into Drew's room.

[Drew]

Notice veterans, babe.

[Enya]

Notice how good of an employer we are. We let you just skip your job to do another job. Let's wake that up.

[Owen]

Speak on that.

[Enya]

Let's wake that up.

[Owen]

Speak on that. Being your employer.

[Kai]

I know.

[Owen]

Let me just say One thing really fast. You, Kai. I recently have had a brand deal. I've had two brand deals recently. My only brand deals that I've ever gotten a. That we can't mention that I love. And also this other thing, so I had to post them on the same day. Okay.

[Enya]

Oh, I've been here.

[Drew]

Oh, wow. Yeah, Yeah, A disaster.

[Owen]

I lost followers.

[Enya]

Yeah. Oh, 100%.

[Owen]

I lost followers. And by the way, I get it. I unfollowed myself for my finster. I go, I hate this shit. This shit sucks.

[Enya]

I wish we could talk about what you were just telling us earlier about the upcoming. Just know something. Something is brewing. Oh, and it's an ad.

[Owen]

And it's an ad.

[Drew]

No. Yeah, I. I feel like I do that often and I fully understand. We were kind of talking about that. Like, I literally do understand when your audience gets randomly mad about something that seems small, I'm like, yeah, okay. Like, I. I just like, yeah, you guys can go too. Because we were talking about getting rid of the chair and how, like, if we got rid of the chair, there would be people who are so attached to the chair.

[Owen]

But by the way, you guys would be this, like, they would be like, what the. Where the is the chair? And you would also be like, wait, where's my chair?

[Enya]

I know. You know what I mean? Enya has mentioned it maybe 30 times total. Like, maybe we get rid of the chair.

[Drew]

I want. I'm pro. Getting rid of the chair.

[Owen]

Wait, why you want to redo this too?

[Enya]

Just look at it.

[Drew]

Really disgusting.

[Enya]

Look at it and then sit on it.

[Owen]

Well, I can't sit on that. I'm going to be honest, if I sat on that, it would break through. It's made of macaroni.

[Enya]

Well, no, it's very sturdy.

[Owen]

Really?

[Enya]

Yeah. I have a real Love me.

[Owen]

It's beautiful. If the artist wasn't in the room, I would tear it apart.

[Enya]

What did you say earlier, Enya? You were like, if I didn't like it, I would have stayed silent. Yeah, I wouldn't have told you.

[Owen]

Gorgeous. When I go into that voice, you know, it's absolutely a disaster.

[Enya]

It's so pretty.

[Owen]

Oh, wow. What you've done with that. My grandma had this hilarious thing. She used to go to these movie screenings because she was ultimately a socialite back in the day or so she said.

[Drew]

Love that.

[Owen]

Iconic. She was the OG socialite, even though she wasn't famous. But anyways, she just had friends, so she would go to these movie premieres and when she. When she hated a movie she would be like you in that film.

[Enya]

Wait, that's something. And you used to say, like, it is a film. Totally.

[Owen]

Totally.

[Enya]

It is a movie. It was a movie.

[Drew]

That was a place.

[Owen]

That was a place.

[Enya]

That was a dinner.

[Drew]

Wow.

[Enya]

You took me there.

[Owen]

That was a dinner. Wow. You must have had fun making that film. You know what I mean? Like, so mean, dude.

[Drew]

I like, I love it because I'm just so bad at even. Yeah. I feel like silence is almost worse than.

[Owen]

Silence is way worse.

[Drew]

Yeah. And I feel like I'm. I kind of fall dead silent. Like, I literally. I just. If I really don't like something, I'm.

[Owen]

Like, by the way, everyone knows you hate it. I'm just letting you know you're not being sly.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Like, why?

[Owen]

Like, if ever anyone is mad at you, it's because you stayed silent when they're like, do you like this shirt?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Owen]

You know what I mean? Like, silence is horrible. I do the opposite. Opposite where I'm like. If you're like, do you like the shirt? And I hate it. I'm like, it's a pretty. You don't understand. This shirt on news.

[Enya]

Delicious.

[Owen]

Oh, my God. I've never seen a shirt like, you have to get 500. Let's make copies. I'm literally that, like, over which I.

[Drew]

Feel like kind of.

[Enya]

Let's make our own.

[Owen]

Let's make our. We have to make this shirt, but our own. Oh, my God. I'm copyrighting it.

[Drew]

See, sometimes I will do that when I like something too much and I'm like, oh, my God. This seems like I'm lying, but if I really like something, I will be overly complimentary of it. But also, maybe it just is, like, the inner thief in me, like, I want to take.

[Enya]

If I hate something, like, in his hair, I'll say, I love your hair today. And I did that earlier.

[Drew]

Yeah, he did say that.

[Owen]

And you took it. I totally get it.

[Enya]

No, I really like your hair today.

[Drew]

But, yeah, I. I'm kind of.

[Owen]

I love your hair today.

[Drew]

Thank you.

[Owen]

Did you braid it?

[Drew]

Yeah, I did. I mean, you're like.

[Owen]

You went through glam.

[Drew]

Oh, my God, thank you.

[Kai]

It does. I. I know.

[Enya]

And wait, like, the bodysuit goes crazy.

[Kai]

Yeah, her body does go crazy.

[Enya]

Or wait, we said that. We said the body suit.

[Kai]

Oh, my bad.

[Drew]

Showing up late and then.

[Owen]

And then complimenting your host.

[Drew]

Yeah, like, wow.

[Owen]

Well, look, have you guys.

[Enya]

No, we want. I want it so bad.

[Kai]

Me and Drew have a bunch.

[Enya]

Yeah, no, I actually.

[Drew]

I'm not kidding. I was Driving around the other day, and I was like, dom. I low key. I am. I need to get my body count up like that.

[Owen]

How many like.

[Drew]

Like, how many do I want to go up?

[Owen]

How many do you want to go up and how many do you have? No, just tell us how many you want. How much you want to go up?

[Drew]

I want to go up 6.

[Owen]

Before you're like, I need to get to 36.

[Drew]

No, dude, it's actually like, mine's really low. Yeah, same. Because we're like, constant monogamous. I'm like, at. And I'm like, that's.

[Owen]

Yeah, I'm.

[Enya]

I'm really high.

[Owen]

You are.

[Enya]

I actually like, more like a hundred. Probably not 100, but like one of my best friends.

[Owen]

More than 50, I thought was not sexual at all. I can't say their name on this podcast, but I thought they were completely unsexual. Like, you see that you. Like, they're gushy and like. Like they're just asexual is what I thought. And we were talking about sex the other day, and he was like. I was like, how many people have you had sex with expecting it to be, like, 2? And he was like, probably like on 80.

[Enya]

I was like, oh, my God.

[Owen]

You have sex every night for the.

[Enya]

Rest of your life. The most innocent look the freaky or are the freakiest.

[Drew]

I. I think I get really confused because I'm like, how like, damn, it is an exchange. Like, yeah, I feel like it's primal instinct.

[Enya]

Like it's nothing more.

[Owen]

I wish I could do that. I really wish I could. I know.

[Drew]

Same. I unironically wish I had that. Like, I wish I had that relationship to sex. Because I do think, like, what's your.

[Enya]

Body count so low?

[Drew]

Oh, my God.

[Enya]

Loser. By the way, I was in the.

[Owen]

Presence of two losers.

[Drew]

Totally.

[Owen]

No, I want to have more. You don't understand. I've, like, been in rooms with people who have, like, taken off their clothes and been like, let's fuck. And I'm like, 100% tomorrow.

[Drew]

So, yeah, I didn't plan on this happening.

[Owen]

I don't exactly literally.

[Enya]

But I will say, why are you here? 99% of my bodies, I. I have had zero connection with, like, previous or prior, like, post to hooking up. Like, I literally, like, it was such. Such an exchange. But now I'm like, has anyone ever.

[Owen]

Recognized you during sex?

[Kai]

Like, in the middle.

[Owen]

Yeah, like, been like, oh, wait, I listen to.

[Enya]

No, no, no. Because I only hooked up with, like.

[Drew]

People in Texas that like. But I Feel like by the time we got to podcasts, you were kind of, like, on the.

[Enya]

I was in my celibacy area. I'm kind of like, in my cell of a Sierra right now, actually.

[Owen]

You are?

[Enya]

Yeah. How long have you been vegetarian?

[Owen]

It goes back to a dare.

[Enya]

A dare?

[Drew]

No, it does not.

[Owen]

In fifth grade, yeah, I would bring turkey sandwiches a lot because that's what my mom would make me. She's love you, mom. And she made me.

[Drew]

Never put me in a position to beef with you because. Wow, A man of his word.

[Owen]

No, I am a man of legend. And my friend goes, I bet you can't bring a turkey sandwich tomorrow. And so I didn't. And there was a dare, essentially.

[Enya]

Oh.

[Owen]

It was a bag.

[Enya]

Oh, my God.

[Owen]

Yeah. And I won.

[Drew]

Oh, my God. That's amazing.

[Enya]

Do you enjoy it?

[Owen]

No. Yeah. No. I just don't know. Like, I. I don't think I ever liked meat.

[Enya]

Meat is scary to me.

[Owen]

But I've been dabbling, actually.

[Enya]

Wow.

[Drew]

Really?

[Owen]

The other day, I ordered a steak at home. I postmated a steak. I had smelled it. I had one tiny bite, and then my boyfriend ate the rest of it. But I tried it.

[Enya]

You're microdosing meat?

[Owen]

I'm microdosing, Yeah.

[Drew]

I feel like starting with, like. Like, chicken or something might be, like, easier.

[Owen]

Definitely. I don't know why I posted a steakhouse, by the way.

[Enya]

That's really insane.

[Owen]

No, it was literally.

[Drew]

Who am I to judge? Because I think I broke my vegetarianism with chick Fil A chicken nuggets.

[Owen]

There you go.

[Drew]

Yeah. So an Outback steakhouse from Costa Mesa.

[Owen]

It took an hour and a half to get.

[Enya]

Wow maneuver.

[Owen]

I mean, it opposed me. It was crazy. Imagine that it's just sitting in the back of the car.

[Enya]

It's like. It's literally just the condensation is. It made it moist.

[Owen]

I'm like. It's wet. It's literally sweating. So. Yeah. So maybe I would have gotten food poisoning anyways, but I'm trying. Okay. Do you wanna have meat together?

[Drew]

Yeah, I'd be down to have meat together.

[Enya]

I am like. Meat is on the outs for me right now. Specifically red meat. Most of my diet is chicken tenders, but me is, like, on the outs because. We'll show you later. Maybe. It's really embarrassing. We'll show both of y'. All. But our refrigerator, we had rotting prosciutto and salami in there, and we didn't realize that's what it was.

[Drew]

I left it in a drawer, but.

[Enya]

I smelt like essentially rotting flesh for the first time. And I was like, that's what's happening inside of my guts. Like, that smell.

[Owen]

I have chills.

[Enya]

No.

[Owen]

Is because I just realized I have prosciutto left over from a part from a dinner party that Jared and I attempted to have. Like, I'm not kidding, three months ago. And I realized something. We just. Jared and I just moved into another house, but we did bring the prosciutto. So now realizing that's a three month old prosciutto.

[Enya]

Get it out.

[Owen]

I thought, prosciutto can last.

[Drew]

Well, no, it was open. I opened it.

[Enya]

Get it out while you can.

[Drew]

Yeah, no, I opened it and then I, like, had work and travel, and it was in the back of a drawer, and I had, like, an unopened salami and then an open prosciutto. And I think I had, like, opened that drawer and seen the salami closed, and I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, that's still good. Because I think when they're closed, they are good.

[Owen]

I have chills.

[Drew]

So I just didn't know it was back there. And we had. We kept taking things out of the fridge. We were like, what the is in here? Like, what is in here? But it was my.

[Owen]

Do you guys have a lot of stuff in your fridge?

[Drew]

No, that was the thing. We were like.

[Enya]

We would put, like, leftovers in there and they would stay for.

[Drew]

It was like my salami was over the pudo. Hiding the fact that I had already ripped open my piuto. I didn't realize it, but I think one of the night I was up, I, like, ripped it open and ate a piece, because I don't even think there was that much missing.

[Enya]

No, it was like a full pack. Yeah, but it is the worst odor you've ever smelt in your life.

[Owen]

Is it still in there?

[Enya]

No. We clean it.

[Drew]

No, but the stench lingers.

[Enya]

It follows.

[Owen]

Stench linger. Isn't that interesting when the stench lingers?

[Drew]

It's like. It's kind of beautiful.

[Owen]

Well, no, it kind of is. Like, wow.

[Drew]

Like, because things are so. Like, you think things are so discardable, but it's like, it's still Woodley.

[Enya]

We'll do a fun little experiment.

[Drew]

The fridge keeps the score.

[Enya]

The fridge literally keeps the score. We'll do an experiment. We'll put y' all in the hallway and. Yeah, we'll put you on the fridge. We'll put you on the hallway by my bedroom. And then ultimate, we'll open the refrigerator and we'll time it. But the scent literally travels through our house and goes down the stairs. It's like a bubble of stink.

[Owen]

Wait, I'm kind of obsessed with that. Makes me like, believe in life.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Owen]

Do you know what I mean?

[Enya]

Life is good.

[Owen]

Like, life is in a simulation.

[Enya]

The speed of smell.

[Owen]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Honestly. So it makes you want to try more meat?

[Owen]

No, that makes me turned off. No, that makes. I'm a vegan now, actually.

[Drew]

Have you ever had, like, I feel like, I mean, I guess we did just paint prosciutto in like the worst light. But I do love prosciutto. That's.

[Owen]

I think, like, I don't think I've ever had that. It's so good.

[Enya]

It's a scary.

[Owen]

Yes.

[Drew]

With everything. It put it on anything. Yes. Oh, my God. Projuno. And pasta is so good. You can put it on pizza. You put it on bread, crackers. You can put it on apples, apricots. What? You. What did you say earlier in my room? What? That you ate last night? Because this is disgusting to me.

[Owen]

What did you eat?

[Drew]

This is disgusting.

[Enya]

I ate 25 bacon wrapped dates last night and it was 25 of them.

[Drew]

Oh, there's that pitch.

[Enya]

And like, I, I did not feel bad. Like, I ate. They would put out a platter and I would just pick and eat them. Pick them and eat them. I mean, they were like tiny. They were like.

[Owen]

By the way, that's why these older people are looking at you being like, you okay, love? That's not anything I would do with the kids meal that you were eating. It has to do with the fact that you ate a hundred dates with bacon wrapped. They're like, I don't think it's getting so good.

[Enya]

They were so good. Like, I.

[Kai]

Two days ago you were like, oh, my cholesterol levels are high. I have to get those down.

[Enya]

Wait, I. I actually have high cholesterol. Like, it's crazy. Crazy because I only eat fried food. Like, it's literally like the only food I eat is fried.

[Owen]

I'm obsessed.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Something is seriously wrong with you Peptides.

[Owen]

I'm obsessed with Eddie Root astride.

[Enya]

Wait, how do you say that?

[Drew]

What the is happening?

[Enya]

No.

[Owen]

Castrated. What is that?

[Enya]

Hydrated.

[Drew]

Wait, Castrate.

[Enya]

Wait, let me. I'm looking it up real quick. Hold on.

[Drew]

Do you know about hydrated? Oh, hello.

[Owen]

Wait, can I be totally honest? I've noticed that the whole day and I've thought maybe it's a henna.

[Drew]

No, I don't know what that is.

[Enya]

I noticed that too, but I didn't.

[Owen]

Want to say anything, which is not me not being afraid.

[Drew]

Okay, first of all, it's stained.

[Enya]

If you can't fix it in 30 seconds.

[Drew]

But I don't know what that is.

[Enya]

That should apparently is they. But they like, it's a Chinese research chemical and it's like getting banned. But they renamed it to GLP3. How do you say it, Kai?

[Kai]

Reddit. Retrue. Tide.

[Enya]

Yeah, read a true tide. I love peptides. I'm deep into peptides right now.

[Drew]

I don't know what that is. Also, that was coffee on my finger. I literally got so scared. I let. I was like, oh, my God, guys, a birthmark has formed on my hand, which is just a sign of skin cancer. Exactly what I thought I had, which I didn't think.

[Owen]

Wait, by the way, I thought it was a beautiful design.

[Enya]

You should put it back.

[Owen]

It was gorgeous. No, it was shaping the ring.

[Enya]

Your hand looks uglier without it.

[Owen]

It.

[Drew]

Oh, my gosh. Should I get a tattoo on my hand?

[Owen]

Would you? Do you guys have tattoos?

[Enya]

Yeah, I have a couple.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Owen]

Lip. What does that say? Love?

[Enya]

Marry me, Anya. I proposed to India with a lip tattoo.

[Drew]

He did. And I said no.

[Owen]

You guys, this is getting crazy vibes. I'm obsessed with that.

[Enya]

Yeah. Not a lot of people know about it.

[Drew]

Yeah. And the Enya is so clear.

[Enya]

I know. They told me the movie doesn't look like that before I got the Marry.

[Drew]

Me looks like nothing. So it's just my name.

[Enya]

Before I got this tattoo, I was like, oh, it'll like, be gone in like six months. And he was like, yeah, it'll be gone like in six months. It's been like seven. Six. Seven years.

[Owen]

You're lying.

[Drew]

Yeah, no, it has been. He got it in 2019. Yeah.

[Enya]

I love you forever. No, it didn't hurt at all. But like, I had the. This is going to be really gross. But like, when I like, bite my. I bite my lip all the time because I just have like.

[Owen]

Because you were eating so many bacon wrapped. You're like. So I always feel like there's a ghost bacon wrapped in my mouth.

[Enya]

So I just start eating my cheek and my lip.

[Owen]

You're like. Because my mouth becomes a bacon wrapped date first.

[Enya]

No, I just bite my lip. And I, like, am very prone to canker sores. Not cold sores, but canker sores.

[Owen]

Speak on the lips.

[Enya]

And when they gave me.

[Owen]

No, I'm actually. No. We have to wake up to the difference between a canker and a core.

[Enya]

And you can transmit canker sores, but it was essentially just like cutting lines into my mouth. So like right after I was so embarrassed so I didn't show anyone, but the entire Inyo was just like a line of canker sores. Like it was, it was a, it was Inya's name in canker sores. So my friends text let's do a quick little weekend getaway. Super chill, right? Famous last words. Suddenly someone's buying a bonfire outfit. The Airbnb costs more than my car and apparently there's a boat now. Literally, when did this turn into Coachella? That's when I pull out my Klarna card. Swipe done. And if I want it off my plate now, I can pay in full or I can pay later. And there's no group chat math to figure it out. Oh also, my budget's still breathing. No IOUs, no stress. Because the Klarna card isn't just a card, it's how you survive friends super chill plans, dinners, outfits, random trips you didn't plan for covered plus no credit impact when you apply. So next time the plan spiral stay in control. Learn more about klarna [e-mail] debit flex card pay later plans issued by web bank deposits in your balance account are held at WebBank, member FDIC anywhere visa is accepted. Certain merchant product good and service restrictions apply. Some merchants do not accept virtual cards, physical card only included with a paid.

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[Enya]

And I like was so scared and you know what I did? I put salt in that wound and it went away in two days.

[Owen]

And it was the most painful salt in the canker sore that we have to wake up to. That's the most painful.

[Enya]

It's the most painful thing you can go through. But also like I'm kind of a sicko and I love it. Like I've grown to love it.

[Owen]

I had kidney Stones. Do you know what those are?

[Enya]

Oh my God.

[Drew]

That is my nightmare. That is my nightmare. I had kidney stones. I don't. Go, go, go. I'm so scared.

[Owen]

I had kidney stones and I thought, well, I. One day I woke up, it was the most pain I've ever been in. And I was like.

[Enya]

I like threw up a kidney or in your like, bladder? Like the, like the pain.

[Owen]

It was in my back. Okay.

[Enya]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Owen]

And it was the. It was like a vis. I was shaking. It was horrifying. And it's because I was going to hot yoga every single day and not drinking water. And so I was so dehydrated. My body was so dehydrated that it made these kidney zones. Anyway, I passed the kidney stones.

[Enya]

Horrible.

[Owen]

And it's the most pain I've ever been in. And then.

[Drew]

Did you pee them out?

[Owen]

And I had to catch. I have never told this. I cannot believe I'm saying this, but I was. They were like.

[Enya]

They literally.

[Owen]

Literally they're like put a strainer. Strainer in the mall. Literally. They're like put a strainer underneath when you pee. Because we need to test them to make sure they're kidneys heals. So I had to pee. Imagine me, by the way, I'm in college. Imagine me. I'm like, like, literally had a strainer in my back pocket. Like, you cooking? I'm like, no, this is where I pee.

[Enya]

Let me cook.

[Kai]

Wait, what were the shape of them.

[Owen]

When they were like very small and you basically. They look like salt.

[Enya]

Okay.

[Kai]

Cuz I've seen them where they're like, like spiky. They're like the size of a pea, but they're like spiky.

[Owen]

What? No, that was not mine.

[Enya]

They're crazy.

[Owen]

No, they did something and.

[Enya]

Were you bleeding?

[Owen]

No. Oh, initially, but not yet.

[Enya]

Yeah. Did they like zap them with a like, like laser before?

[Owen]

Yes.

[Enya]

That's a big frequencies.

[Owen]

But it was so scary. Anyways, I just recently had a canker sore and I put salt in it.

[Drew]

You put a kidney stone on it?

[Owen]

I put a kidney stone in it. No, I put salt on it and it was. Might have been more painful than the kidney.

[Enya]

It's really intense. Your eyes water. Like it's like your body doesn't know how to react. So it just starts like leaking and sweating. It was crazy.

[Drew]

I actually don't know if I've had like, like a canker sore por.

[Enya]

It's very similar to like when you put like hydrogen peroxide on a cut, but it's 10 times worse. 10 times worse.

[Owen]

But I get kinker sores every time I eat something sour. Okay. That makes every time I almost caner sores.

[Drew]

But I do bite my bottom lip a lot. So like just like while if I'm doing a task, if I'm really concentrated, I will bite my lips. So like I was cleaning yesterday. My bottom lip is.

[Owen]

Is so cut up.

[Drew]

So cut up.

[Owen]

Wait.

[Enya]

Ty takes pictures of his.

[Kai]

I do. I upload it to Chat GPT because my doctor told me to wait.

[Owen]

And what. What do you do? What is chat?

[Enya]

He showed me one and it was the prettiest poop I've ever seen in my life.

[Kai]

Okay. Yeah, well, I've had all these gastrointestinal issues recently.

[Owen]

Are you okay?

[Kai]

I'm okay. Yeah. Now I'm okay. But I had to do all this stuff with my diet and part of it was like my doctor's like, you have to look at your. And I created basically the perfect shape. It took me three weeks and I got all these different types of fiber and I created. It looked like a cartoon shape.

[Enya]

It's hilarious.

[Kai]

It looked like if you put the Fibonacci spiral over it, it would have lined up perfectly, I swear to God. But you know the poop emoji? Yeah, it looked like that. Like a perfect soft serve swirl. And it had eyeballs too of Wilf. Just like the emoji.

[Drew]

Wait, wait, so you were taking photos of your.

[Kai]

Because he was like my doctor.

[Owen]

Oh my God. I was so scared. I was like, we've entered a new level of just psych.

[Kai]

There's a measurement. It's called like the. It's like one through six. I forget.

[Enya]

It's like the hardness scale.

[Kai]

Yeah, basically. And then it can like tell you what type of your is. And then it can tell you like, if you're eating enough fiber, it's getting enough water.

[Enya]

Yeah, too much fiber.

[Kai]

But I also like, I did bring the. I brought a sample in to show him, so. Or they did tests on it. So it's not like I just trusted.

[Enya]

But they ate it.

[Kai]

I don't think he ate all of it.

[Drew]

They taste test some of it.

[Kai]

Of course he said it tasted fire.

[Drew]

They did. What's the concept? Fault and cheap versus expensive.

[Owen]

Well, I'm dead.

[Enya]

Well, Kai's is expensive. He makes like a 300 smoothie every day.

[Kai]

I do.

[Enya]

It's crazy.

[Kai]

It has so much stuff in it and it makes me make like perfect cartoon shits.

[Drew]

I'm so interested on what people's like, I Mean, you make sense because whatever you're going through it, blah, blah, blah, blah. But even before that, Even before that, you've always been hyper obsessed with your health. You too. And I'm just surrounded by people who are like that. And I seriously need to. If anybody has recommendations on books about what that means psychologically about these people, I unironically want to know.

[Owen]

Really funny.

[Enya]

No, no.

[Drew]

I'm so curious what it means to be obsessed with it because I'm so.

[Enya]

Disconnected from what it is.

[Owen]

Are you a hypochondriac?

[Enya]

I'm a hypochondriac. And what it, what it is is like I didn't, I came from one of these people, a decently large family, and I was like the baby and I was kind of like forgotten. So anytime I had any ailment, I didn't get like the attention I needed. So now as an adult, like, I fiend for when I had knee surgery. Thank you. Thank you.

[Owen]

No, I, I. The opposite. Where I was the only child and every time, like, literally I had like a scratch on my wrist and my, my or my finger and my mom would be like, oh, my God, it's ringworm. No, no, no. We have to, I'm not kidding. We're flying to the hospital. We're flying there. We're going there immediately. We have to land to the hospital. Like, that was her. And to, to like a really sick degree where my mom would like almost.

[Enya]

Munchausen by Proxy vibes kind of.

[Owen]

Are you. You're a hypochondriac.

[Kai]

I'm not a hypochondriac, but I am kind of obsessed.

[Enya]

You're just aware.

[Kai]

Yeah. Because also just having this, it's like an autoimmune thing. So I'm just like constantly like, oh. I kind of view the outside world as a threat now because I was getting triggered by something. We still don't know what it was.

[Enya]

But it was like a blue haired liberal. Yeah, you're so triggered.

[Kai]

Yeah, exactly. But I do think, to answer your question, yeah, I do think that it's like you're seeking control when you're like that obsessed with your health and what goes into it. And I think that that can manifest itself in a lot of different ways. But I do think at the core.

[Enya]

Of it, I thought this shit was yours.

[Kai]

It is. Yeah. It's me sticking my hand into the toilet to get as close as I possibly can to get the most detail.

[Owen]

Have you ever dropped your phone in it?

[Kai]

No, I haven't.

[Owen]

By the way I just unlocked something.

[Kai]

Yeah.

[Enya]

I hear Kai seen your butthole.

[Owen]

Wait, what? You hear what?

[Enya]

Twice.

[Owen]

Seen my butthole?

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Kai]

Yeah, you showed me a picture.

[Owen]

Hey. So that was a dark time for me. I don't want to discuss that.

[Enya]

No, I want to see it.

[Owen]

Oh, you can see it. Okay.

[Enya]

I'll show anyone you're proud of it. And I'm scared of my body.

[Owen]

No, I took one picture four years ago, and it's never looked better. And I show everyone I've.

[Enya]

That's your curse.

[Kai]

Look, I told you, right?

[Enya]

No, Kai was bragging about it. I'm obsessed.

[Kai]

It looked like a period at the end of a sentence. It was, like, perfect.

[Owen]

Wait. Thank you.

[Drew]

Oh, my God. Wait, now I'm not kidding. Unironically. Never in my life did I think I would say this, but now I feel like I want to see.

[Owen]

I do think everyone should be aware of their butthole.

[Drew]

Yeah. I mean, all of my.

[Owen]

You don't need to take pics.

[Enya]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Owen]

But, like, I think you should be aware of it.

[Drew]

Yeah, I, like, I'm a firm believer that you should be all up in the mirror all over your own body. Like, you should have seen every crack in the crevice.

[Owen]

I. I agree.

[Drew]

Yeah. Don't leave it to the imagination. Your imagination is not going to do you justice because your imagination is going to make you think it's terrifying and it's chill, bro. Like, it's.

[Owen]

Seriously, we have to normalize, like, the. The darkest crevices in our mind. Normalize that and normalize showing your friends.

[Enya]

Yes. Wait, Kai, can you show Owen the pictures of you took. That you took of me the other day on the podcast last Wednesday?

[Owen]

Naked?

[Drew]

Oh, my God. No, it's just pictures where he thinks he looks good.

[Enya]

He's just literally doing this so that you compliment him.

[Owen]

Wait, wait. By the way, I'm obsessed with the trajectory of this. You're like, your butthole's perfect, so I need to show you pictures of me.

[Enya]

This is my butthole.

[Owen]

Wait. You look so hot.

[Kai]

Does it look like.

[Enya]

Oh, my. Is that not crazy?

[Owen]

Are you gonna post that?

[Enya]

I kind of, like, posted it.

[Drew]

Posted it 18 times on his fucking story already.

[Enya]

But I might main feed it.

[Owen]

No, you have to. You have to grid that shit. Yeah, to be honest, I think you have to. I think you have to grid it three times.

[Drew]

Grid it three different photos on a huge canvas. Take a picture in front of it.

[Kai]

And then also, I also took this photo of Drew that I thought was really Good.

[Owen]

Wait, you're taking, like, really hot photos of Drew.

[Enya]

I know he takes pictures.

[Kai]

No, it's easy because he's so photogenic. I've taken. Okay, I took a bunch more, and he looked incredible.

[Owen]

Let me see more.

[Enya]

Show him the shirtless one.

[Owen]

Wait, show me every. I'm getting, like, horny. This is. Wait, why are you at shirtless? Wait, genuinely, why are you at a shirtless? I thought you were gonna say at, like, Barry's boot camp.

[Enya]

Wait, I had a note about Barry's boot camp. I went for the first time the other day, and it was incredible. I liked it.

[Drew]

Do you like that?

[Owen]

No. Okay.

[Drew]

Cause I was like, whoa, I'm not kidding. That almost knocked the wind out of me. Like, the idea that you guys have connected over Barry's boot camp was like, really?

[Enya]

No. Me and Drew Mac have no.

[Owen]

Oh, well, Drew Mac, my friend, wasn't it? Drew Mack was in a class with Drew Mack the other day. And by the way, love Drew Mack. Obsessed. And my friend was like, I think your friend's here. And I was like, who?

[Enya]

And.

[Owen]

And she was like, drew Mack. I'm like, obviously, it's him. And then she was like, oh, my God, he just got a cake for his 500th.

[Enya]

He posted. He posted a picture and it said, like, congrats on 500. And I was like, she was there.

[Owen]

She was there. She was literally there. She was like, I think he just got a cake for making it. For making it.

[Enya]

Think about that. That is 500 days.

[Owen]

No. He's so fat.

[Drew]

Oh, my God. That motherfucker's always been the most fit.

[Owen]

Person I've ever known, by the way.

[Drew]

Jesus Christ.

[Owen]

I look at his outfits for inspo because I think he has such good style. And then I realized he is just the hottest, fittest man. It's like, obviously, those low rise jeans with no shirt looks amazing on you. I tried that shit on. I looked insane.

[Enya]

Also, his boxer brand is one of the coolest things.

[Owen]

Wait, what is it called?

[Enya]

Snow Pond. He makes. I actually might be wearing a pair.

[Owen]

Pretty boxers.

[Enya]

No, I'm not wearing a pair. He makes pretty boy boxers, which is such an interesting market that was not cornered.

[Drew]

That's really cute. I know.

[Owen]

Hot 500. I'm glad that you went to Barry's and you loved it.

[Enya]

Yeah, I loved it.

[Owen]

I went. I will never go again, so I can't go anymore. Projectile vomited in the. In the. I almost said dressing room because I'm such a theater kid in the locker room. What?

[Enya]

You were A theater kid.

[Owen]

Look at me.

[Enya]

Yeah, true, true.

[Owen]

I'm wearing a Sabrina Carpenter.

[Enya]

I'm working late.

[Drew]

I'm working late.

[Enya]

Hey, hey.

[Drew]

Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. I need to hear about theater because, like, I am realizing I grew up, up talking about theater. One you will find as you grow older, so many of the things you have commentary on are nothing but a projection. Because I was such a theater kid, but I thought I was above it because of shame.

[Owen]

I'm the biggest theater kid of all of. Of anyone, ever.

[Drew]

So many people I love. I find out. I find this out at some point. Everyone I'm drawn to, I'm like, oh, wow.

[Enya]

Wow.

[Owen]

I was a huge theater. I mean, that's. I was. I love theater. I love Broadway. I love everything.

[Enya]

What was your. Like, did you do plays and musicals in school? What was like, Year one, the one that you think back to my.

[Owen]

Okay, so my school. I went to a school in la and all the kids in my program were white, but I really wanted to do the Wiz, so I made my class do the Wiz. And so the Wiz is. I don't know if anyone knows the black version of the wizard of Oz go off Diana Ross. And so we did that. And it was crazy vibes.

[Enya]

A bunch of white kids doing the Wiz.

[Owen]

It was crazy vibes in my head. I was like, oh, I'll get cast as everyone, and I'll just come out every second we don't have anything else. And that didn't happen. So it actually became, like, actually kind of problematic. I was like, this is bad. My mom was like, they should not do this. But it was so much fun.

[Enya]

I'll do.

[Owen]

Yeah, I did. I did Bye Bye Birdie. I was Conrad Birdie.

[Drew]

Also not very well versed on, like, musicals and stuff. Like, I know the Wiz.

[Owen]

Do you know Hairspray?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Enya]

Oh, yeah, I did.

[Owen]

We did Hairspray.

[Enya]

Cute.

[Owen]

But I. I was Link. Okay? Link.

[Drew]

Link. The guy who's on the white station.

[Owen]

Yes. So it made no sense.

[Enya]

Oh, my God.

[Owen]

I actually wasn't even linked on one of the performances. I was Tracy.

[Drew]

Your school was breaking boundary.

[Owen]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Enya]

What?

[Owen]

I was Tracy. Triple. For one performance period. This cast thing that we did, which made absolutely no sense because she's, like, fighting for black lives. She's like, no, segregation. No. And then it's like, what? It's like, yeah, of course you're black. Like, it makes no sense.

[Drew]

Sense.

[Owen]

It made no sense. And I was like, standing with all the, like, this black girl who was. Came out as Big Mama Morton came. Came in and grabbed my hand, and she was like. Like, I know where you've been. And I was like. We were looking at each other, and I was like, this is bad. I looked like her. Her daughter. It made no sense for this, the show.

[Drew]

Oh, my God.

[Owen]

Anyway, that is amazing. This is why we need diversity. Let's wake that up, and let's wake up on that. I can sing. Question mark. I sing, but it's not, like, good. It's, like, fine. Do you know what I mean?

[Drew]

Would you ever partake in theater again?

[Owen]

I would die, too.

[Drew]

Really?

[Owen]

Yeah.

[Drew]

That's so amazing.

[Owen]

I would love that. I would die. Would you guys? You wouldn't.

[Enya]

I would. I would try. I was. I went to, like, school in, like, a small town in Texas. And, like, obviously I'm gay, so, like, being in theater, like, freaked me the.

[Owen]

Fuck out, because that's what you just said.

[Drew]

Theater.

[Enya]

Wait, how do you. Theater. Theater.

[Owen]

Theater.

[Enya]

Theater.

[Owen]

Theater. And obviously being in theater, it was.

[Drew]

Like, in theater and all that.

[Enya]

In theater, you're gay. So I, like, avoided it like the plague. And I was always so jealous, and, like, I wish I did it in high school. And that's like a. Like, I wish I did theater instead of sports because I, like, played sports through high school.

[Drew]

See? Yeah.

[Owen]

See, this is my heated rivalry moment where I'm crying for you.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Owen]

This is beautiful. You need to.

[Enya]

So I would be down to do, like, we should, like.

[Owen]

I think you need to go back to your school. Oh, my God. I have chills. Say it. I'm sorry. I'm a charity genius. I give back. I think you need to go back to your school and do a class with the theater department.

[Enya]

Wow.

[Owen]

Oh, my God.

[Enya]

I have shells.

[Owen]

My own suggestion.

[Enya]

I should. No. My school hates me.

[Owen]

Oh, okay.

[Enya]

They hate.

[Drew]

I was gonna say, except there's an episode of we are here in your hometown.

[Enya]

Do you know the Drag Queen show?

[Owen]

No.

[Enya]

It's like, HBO made this show with a bunch of drag queens where they, like, would go around the world and just, like, be gay and proud or whatever it was. It was really cool. But they went to my hometown, and it was, like, the gnarliest shit ever. Like, they were, like, talking about, like, killing the drag queens because they're gay and shit.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Enya]

Like, it was.

[Owen]

So don't go back to. Don't go anywhere near there. Actually say, stay far away.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Owen]

And tell people to stay far away.

[Drew]

Yeah. My school didn't have funding for theater, so we didn't do plays, but I was in theater class, but all we did was, like, improv.

[Owen]

Yeah.

[Enya]

Which I was horrible at.

[Drew]

I loved, like, improv. It was so funny.

[Owen]

Like, bye.

[Drew]

I remember I loved watching right now. Like, no, I didn't mean in that. See, I loved it in a maniacal way where I was just obsessed with the fact that, like, you had to watch people who never spoke be forced to get up and, like, say something off the top of their head. Like, that was mad funny. Which is like, actually, yeah, I guess I'm just a bully. Oh, my God.

[Owen]

Well, wake up to that. No, it's. But no, it's not. That's not being a bully. It's funny to see. No, that's good.

[Drew]

I'm just like, what the hell are y' all thinking?

[Owen]

It was also funny to learn someone's inside of their brain. Like, when somebody gets up and is like. Like, I just went to. I just popped a pimple. It's like, wow, you're really thinking about that. You know what I mean? I didn't know you were thinking about that.

[Drew]

Oh, my God. Yeah. We should start a theater class.

[Owen]

I would. A troop. I would do that.

[Enya]

Let's do it.

[Owen]

I did so much.

[Drew]

What's going to be the first, like, musical or should we do a musical or, like, doing.

[Owen]

I would love to do a musical. I think we should do a musical. It's so. Is it lame that I like musical this. This much?

[Enya]

Do you guys see I'm joining that era now? Like, I'm like. My dad is, like, famously gay. Like, he's not actually, but he's in with this. He. He. He loves, like.

[Owen]

Is he hot?

[Enya]

No.

[Owen]

Is he. Is he. Is he with your mother still?

[Enya]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Owen]

Oh, it's beautiful relationship that I'm not breaking up.

[Enya]

28 years. 28 years. But he, like, he's gay in the sense that he's gay in the sense that he loves Rocky Horror Picture Show. Like, that's, like. He just bought, like, an original poster for his, like, movie room to put, like, on the wall. Like, he's obsessed with.

[Drew]

He comes here, obviously, to see his son, but he comes here to see eagles.

[Enya]

Oh, for the eagle.

[Owen]

I'm dead. He comes here to be on Grindr.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Owen]

No, he comes for what? Musicals at the Ahmanson. Why does he come here? Go to New York?

[Drew]

He just. Well, he does.

[Enya]

He does. He flies to New York three times a year.

[Drew]

When we go do work in New York, he always just so happens to be having a trip to his, like, oh, my God. Like, your parents are coming to see you for work and it's. His parents are just going to be like.

[Enya]

They go see, like, 12.

[Owen]

What's. What's their musical of the year?

[Enya]

Do you know the Neil diamond one?

[Owen]

Delish.

[Enya]

It's like, there it goes. I don't know. I don't know. It was like. It's like his life story. Or is it Neil Diamond?

[Drew]

Yeah, it is Neil Diamond.

[Enya]

Yeah, he. He really liked that one. And then we saw that.

[Owen]

Have you seen Stereophonic?

[Enya]

I don't think so. He really likes Chicago, too.

[Owen]

Well, who doesn't?

[Enya]

Yeah, he really likes Chicago. But we saw one that won, like.

[Drew]

Like.

[Enya]

What'S the term? Not script, not playwright. Or is it playwright of the year, like, at the Tony Awards, like, a couple years ago? And it was like, car crashes and what the hell? It was really intense. It was like, very cinematic. It was like. I didn't know you could do that with theater. But he really liked that one.

[Owen]

He needs to. Has he been on this pod?

[Enya]

No. No.

[Owen]

Get him on.

[Enya]

Yeah, let's pop him in here.

[Drew]

Honestly, he's a man of so few words. He's pretty perf in that way. I don't even think he would really speak.

[Enya]

Yeah, he wouldn't say. He has nothing to say.

[Drew]

He doesn't bother a room with his.

[Owen]

So much to say. He's watching that many musicals, he actually.

[Enya]

Actually will.

[Drew]

That's so true. Yeah, my. I. I didn't grow up around any, like, people watching musicals other than, like, I was obsessed with Hairspray. But Wicked really changed my life. Wicked opened my eyes unironically.

[Owen]

Like, I was part two.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Enya]

Did you?

[Owen]

I loved it.

[Drew]

It's so good.

[Owen]

You not. You didn't.

[Enya]

I haven't seen it yet, but y' all talk about it as much as y' all want.

[Drew]

I knew you. I had never seen Wicked. Thank you. I've, like. I'd never seen the musical. Knew fucking nothing about it. Saw the first one with Rain and it changed the trajectory. One of our relationship. Two, like, of my life. The second one is just so good. Like, it's so good.

[Owen]

There's nothing to say. I'm. I'm truly obsessed with Wicked. Truly.

[Enya]

Really.

[Drew]

But I know I hate to be.

[Owen]

This person and I was.

[Enya]

Been there.

[Owen]

I was. Yeah. Ground zero.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Yeah, of course. Well, speak on it.

[Enya]

Who is it? Adele de Zine.

[Owen]

Adina Menzel. Yeah.

[Enya]

Adele de Zine. Adele de Zine.

[Owen]

Adele.

[Enya]

I've been seeing a lot of clips of her recently. Like, kind of revolutionizing Wicked, and she doesn't get enough credit. I think people have burnout for her. But, like, really? Adele, Deena Menzel, Idina Menzel as Elphaba.

[Owen]

She's amazing.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Owen]

I mean, she originated the role.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Because it was like, her.

[Enya]

People, like, make fun of her because Cynthia Eriva, like, kind of went well.

[Drew]

Cynthia is just, like, in a different world. That's, like, you don't.

[Enya]

And you cried to Cynthia.

[Owen]

No, no. That's actually my talented.

[Drew]

I am not somebody who. And, like, this does not come from an egocentric place at all. It literally is, because I live a very disassociated and indifferent plane of existence. But celebrities, for the most part, like, have never, like, got my heart racing like that. Like, it's very few and far in between where I interact with somebody, and I'm like, oh, my God. I'm so gagged by your existence. Usually I'm like, you're still not real.

[Owen]

Totally.

[Drew]

I saw her in public. I've already told this whole story. But, yeah, I saw her in public, and I went up to her, and I was like, I think I just. I'm so sorry to bother you, but you're just so amazing. And I started to cry. Like, I literally had. Like, I've never done that before, and I felt so embarrassed. And she was like, why are you crying? I was like, it just, like, it changed. Like, how me and my friend, like. Like, I literally couldn't speak, and I was like, oh, my God. I've never had this reaction to another human because I love Wicked that much.

[Owen]

I also think, like, when somebody has that much talent, it's like, I cannot believe you're real. Do you know what I mean?

[Drew]

It's like, yeah.

[Owen]

Like, can I poke you?

[Enya]

Like, yeah, like.

[Drew]

Like, what do you mean? You're just chilling.

[Enya]

Have you ever cried to a celebrity?

[Owen]

Who have I cried to? Who have I cried to? Emily celebrity. Yeah. Oh, my God. I know what I've cried to. So I saw Stevie Wonder.

[Enya]

Oh, yeah.

[Drew]

Oh, my God. Wow.

[Owen]

Perform live. And I was sobbing, and then my friend was like, I'm gonna go backstage and say hi to my friend, because my friend was working, and I was like, I have to go. And I didn't even see him, but he walked by, and I was like, there's. It's that same thing where it's like, either he didn't. He. And that's true. And. And no. And that's true, and that's a fact. But when he was on stage, this voice, this Powerhouse. This.

[Drew]

Oh, my God. I mean, that's.

[Owen]

And then to backstage walk, I was like, oh, he's. It's. I thought it was a simulation.

[Drew]

Literally. It's, like, playing, like, phasmophobia or some, like, ghost game. Like, totally. Seriously just saw something.

[Owen]

Totally. Where then. And then I was like. Because he was real and he, like. Like, I was in front of me and not on a stage.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Owen]

I started sobbing.

[Enya]

I had a similar experience with Beyonce, like, at Renaissance Tour. Like, she was, like, four feet away from me, and then she floated above me. And, like, I've had, like, a very deep connection with her since I was, like, 12 years old.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Enya]

She's like your God mom in that sense. Yeah. We, like, know each other. We go, like, way back. No, that's my.

[Owen]

I also cried to Sabrina. We. At the Sabrina show, Emma and I.

[Enya]

I was about to say, but I didn't want to be weird, but, like, I feel that way about Sabrina Carpenter.

[Owen]

I fully was at the Coachella show.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Owen]

And she. I could cry now thinking about it. I can't. Owen, stop. She performed Emails I Can't Send on the piano about her relationship with her dad. And I have a beautiful relationship with my father. It's gorgeous. I have no reason to be crying to this song, but her voice and the pain, you felt it. And I was like. And the celebrity of it all, where I'm like, this is real.

[Enya]

Like, it came over me.

[Owen]

And Emma and I were both sobbing, and Emma's like, I love my d. Why am I crying? Like, it was. It was so, so beautiful.

[Drew]

So I will say I do cry at every. Every concert I've been to, I have either shed a tear or. So, like, I am very, like, totally. Oh, my God. I'd be crying.

[Owen]

Yeah, I always cry. But, like, are you a crier, Drew?

[Enya]

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[Dakota Payne]

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[Owen]

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[Drew]

Run that turns into a disco snow.

[Owen]

Globe, throw pillows and PJs for the.

[Drew]

Whole family dog included at Ross Holiday.

[Owen]

Magic isn't about spending more. It's about giving more for less.

[Drew]

Ross, work your magic.

[Enya]

As of late, yes. Yeah, typically, no, but like, in the last, like, year, yeah, I've. I've been crying a bunch. But, like, no, I don't normally cry. Like, I. But lately, yeah, I've been crying.

[Drew]

Crying.

[Enya]

But like, only in the last year. But have I been crying previous to that? No. But in the last, like, year, I have been crying. But it's, like, crazy because, like, before that, I wasn't really crying that much. But in the last, like, few months, to hear, like, I started, like, shedding a lot of tears and getting really emotional. But, like, it's so weird.

[Drew]

It's like an odd.

[Owen]

Before that.

[Enya]

Before that I wasn't crying as much.

[Owen]

As much, but now it's weird because you're shedding tears.

[Enya]

Exactly.

[Owen]

But what's. What you. But let's just think about. What's weird about that is before that you weren't.

[Enya]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Owen]

So it's just weird that it switched that now you're suddenly.

[Enya]

You weren't. I just started crying more this year because before I wasn't. So it's just. It's really weird.

[Owen]

No, 100%. I get it. Because it's weird because before, you weren't. To me, it's weird to hear that story. I'm like, as an outsider, before you weren't. So it's weird that you are now. Do you know what I mean? It's always weird to, like, switch up.

[Kai]

About you crying and you cry more now for sure.

[Owen]

But because before he wasn't.

[Kai]

Well, before, I feel like before you weren't. But then you started crying.

[Owen]

Right.

[Kai]

I feel like then you.

[Enya]

Yes.

[Kai]

And now I feel like ever since you started crying, I do feel like you cry more.

[Enya]

Yes.

[Owen]

Once you open the gate, you're now there.

[Enya]

Y' all get it?

[Kai]

But I do want to say before, you weren't crying.

[Owen]

Yeah. And to be honest, I'm gonna confront you about this. Before you weren't, so. And I feel weird about that.

[Drew]

You do? Because now the crying. Now I am.

[Enya]

But now.

[Drew]

So it's hard to be mad.

[Enya]

I wasn't, like, hiding myself. It's just like I cry more now because before.

[Drew]

Oh, my God. Remember on my.

[Owen]

Why are you cutting that off? That's such a great. Please, please, please cut us off. Me being like. And why are you ending that? Don't you love that bit?

[Kai]

The best bit of the episode cut short.

[Drew]

Do you remember? I don't think I've ever told this Story. But I used to be such an emotionally erratic person and cry so often that one, it didn't really like shock anybody. I used to literally remember when I would go into the bathroom at restaurants and literally just lock myself in there for like 20 minutes to like freak the out. And I'd come back and be like, hey, but wait.

[Owen]

What? Yeah, wait, are you okay now?

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Owen]

No, no. But wait, why would you do. Tell me a little bit. I need a little insight.

[Drew]

Wow.

[Owen]

Were you just feeling overwhelmed?

[Drew]

No, I was like, I have really bad depression and I think I was just like really depressed and a new adult and tumultuous upbringing. Totally that whole storm. And I'm fine now. After, I think that was a year, I started therapy. Yeah. Which is like.

[Owen]

I think that's part of life. Yeah, of course.

[Enya]

I can't believe it took you so long to like try meds.

[Owen]

I know that's what you were going to say. I can't believe took you so long to get through that.

[Enya]

I was like, like, get over it.

[Owen]

What a crazy thing to say to someone.

[Drew]

No, well, I. Cuz I grew up also not believing in like or like. I have a very like, interesting relationship to medication.

[Enya]

And I know you were taught that.

[Drew]

Yeah, I was taught that. But I. I still do think everybody should like move at their own pace and like really come to their own conclusions with medication. But I wanted to do. I wanted to wait till I was 25 to try antidepressants or anything because I felt like that was like a fair share of like I was going to be able to do therapy. I did therapy from, from age 19. I still do therapy like every week, but I wanted to do therapy first. And after like six years of verbal therapy, I was just like, okay, now I need meds because like.

[Owen]

Do you think therapy's been helping?

[Drew]

Yeah. Oh my God. Therapy, dude, therapy changed my life.

[Owen]

I know.

[Enya]

Like, do you do therapy? Oh, wait, we know this. Your therapist ghosted you.

[Owen]

Yeah.

[Enya]

Yeah, yeah.

[Owen]

That's a true story. Still not funny, Kai.

[Enya]

Yeah. Why are you laughing?

[Drew]

Yeah, Kai's really happy about that.

[Owen]

It was actually really funny. No, it's really funny. My therapist ghosted me because I. Well, it's my fault. It's my fault, to be honest. But keep going, keep going.

[Drew]

But yeah, I just remembered when I turned 21, my friends were so nice and brought me to Malibu Malibay and got me an Airbnb and we were all there and I had a full blown panic attack and hid in the closet and everybody thought I ran out into the ocean and killed myself.

[Enya]

It was crazy. We were so scared. And, like, she was in the back of the closet.

[Owen]

How big was the house that they just check the closet?

[Drew]

Oh, no, it was a big house because it was, like, a random Airbnb that's across from the street. And, like, it was our first night there.

[Owen]

Oh, my God, Enya. I'm so sorry.

[Drew]

Yeah, it was so funny.

[Owen]

Wait, so you just cried on the floor?

[Drew]

I was freaking out. I could get into it, but, like, wow. It's just, like, not even a vibe. It's just not a vibe to talk about, you know, when things are.

[Enya]

Keep that to yourself.

[Drew]

Yeah, when it's not a vibe.

[Enya]

When you're sad.

[Owen]

No, but I'm really sucks. That's horrible.

[Drew]

Yeah. Yeah. Now it's like a fond memory. Yeah. That was during my year of rest and relaxation. That was me coming that year. I came out of it. I think.

[Enya]

You came out.

[Drew]

Wait, what?

[Owen]

Wait, I have to ask you guys a question.

[Enya]

Yes.

[Owen]

I'm suddenly interviewing you, but I actually need to know this.

[Enya]

So we've had sex. Yes.

[Owen]

No, but you might not want to say this, because they. But your street is all family.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Owen]

So is that crazy? Like, do you. Oh, yes.

[Drew]

I actually have kind of talked about this.

[Owen]

Like, when I was driving up, I was like, this is so. It's so cute. The neighborhood's so cute. But it literally is. Like, people with stroll. Like. Yeah, like, women with strollers.

[Enya]

When I go on, like, my daily walk, I look like a monster. Like, I look like the killer. Like, I'll, like, walk.

[Owen]

I think you can bring a vape outside.

[Enya]

No, it. You'll get.

[Drew]

That is kind of how. I'm not kidding. Like, with how much weed I smoke.

[Owen]

Joke.

[Drew]

I. I think to the neighborhood. We are the dementors. We came from the upside down. We are nothing but propaganda. So that they watch Season five. And, like, that's what, like, literally. Because when we moved in, people did think we were a couple.

[Enya]

Of course they would, like, walk by and, like, be like, can I get a picture of y'? All? Y' all look so cute.

[Drew]

Like, literally. They were like, oh, my God, Our American dream. This beautiful white young people is coming into our area, and they're gonna breed beautiful little white kids. And then Josh starts being seen around us, and they're like. They literally slowly turned on us. Crazy. And they see how many people, like, come in, come in and out of this house because, like, we don't have, like, random people over, but, like, Orion will come and stay here for, like, three nights in a row. And then it's just, like, the only time they see me or Drew is, like, us walking out, not with each other, with random people.

[Owen]

Like, gets out of his car, it's so much smoke. He's bringing in. Like, random. Like, I saw him at the flea market, and he was like, I got so many rugs. He's, like, bringing in random.

[Enya]

Oh, wait, you saw the rugs?

[Owen]

Yes, I saw.

[Enya]

Doesn't it look good? Right?

[Owen]

But it's hilarious. These moms would feel like, oh, my gosh.

[Enya]

No. I literally, like, will just, like.

[Owen]

It'll be.

[Enya]

Be like, probably like 9pm And I'll just, like, go walk. But I don't want to walk too far from my house. So I just pace up and down my street with, like, a hoodie on, and I look like the killer. Like, it's crazy. Like, yeah. Ripping my vape. Like, like, not even on my phone, no headphones. Just, like, staring and walking. Like it's crazy.

[Drew]

Yeah, they kind of maybe, but actually, no, I think that's what makes a neighborhood vibrant. Because I was just about to say, like, yeah, they have good reason. Because I do sit on the front porch and I. I, like, play my music on my phone and I just sit there and, like, smoke weed and, like, sit on my front porch with music playing and, like, just watch. Like, people watch. But to me, I'm like, is that not why we live in a community?

[Enya]

Damn. Like, exactly.

[Drew]

I never got to, like, feel safe in my, like, area like that, so it's so funny. But, yeah, they don't.

[Enya]

They don't. They really don't.

[Owen]

Like, I was really dying. I was like, by the way, I was blasting, like, Taylor Swift, like, Sabrina carpet. Like, literally things that I think parents would approve of. And I was, like, literally turned it down. I was like, juno, gotta turn that, dude.

[Drew]

I couldn't give a. I pull up with my music.

[Enya]

I sit in the driveway with my music loud as.

[Drew]

And I like. Yeah, I think they have reason not to like us because for sure, because I love it. I wake up really early and I play my music all day long.

[Owen]

Do you have speakers?

[Drew]

I have a lot of speakers. Yeah. I'm like a loud. Like, I'm really my presence. I. I don't leave a room. And nobody. Nobody is like, oh, my God. Why is Anya here?

[Owen]

Yeah, totally.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Enya]

Like, literally just blasting it.

[Owen]

I love that. Do you guys have the same music taste? Can you play it throughout the whole house?

[Enya]

I don't mind her music.

[Drew]

I don't ask.

[Enya]

She just does. But I don't. I don't mind it. Like she. I'll actually like. Like she was listening to the new Audrey Hobart. Hobert.

[Owen]

Hobert.

[Enya]

Hobert. Yeah. And like I. I had listened it BEF to it before, but I. It just didn't really like, click for me. And then she listened to it and then now from that moment on, like, that album has probably will probably be my most streamed album for 2026. Like, I love.

[Owen]

Who was your most streamed artist? You guys.

[Enya]

Oh, yeah. Wait, what was yours? I want to know. Yours, of course. Famously wake up. Mine was Atticus Ross and Trent Reznor.

[Drew]

Mine was Laby Sifray. And then Addison Rae go off.

[Owen]

Yeah, I love that.

[Drew]

The duality of woman.

[Owen]

Well, of course.

[Drew]

Literally, what Addison would have wanted.

[Owen]

Man's best friend.

[Enya]

Yeah, I'm.

[Owen]

I say what I. I'm wearing my.

[Enya]

You know what I mean?

[Owen]

You see what you get.

[Drew]

Girl makes good music. She gets on that stage and she does her job top to bottom. Like, you will never see that fall. Like, also from the dawn of time. It cracks me up cuz I saw a speech of her like, talking about herself and I was like, it's so interesting how like that to me is.

[Owen]

Yeah.

[Drew]

One of those people who's not real. Like, I'm like. I'm like, bro, to even at. To expect someone like that to explain their stardom is like, why are you doing that to that girl? Like, does that make sense? Like, because.

[Owen]

Well, she's been a star since she was.

[Enya]

I know.

[Drew]

Like, she's like. Has all these like, insightful things to say about herself creating at the age of 10. And I'm like, that's insane.

[Owen]

No, literally 10. I was still like playing with legos and like sticking them on my ass.

[Drew]

On phones with no SIM cards for my cousins. Because I was like, watch. The police will come. It doesn't matter if it's not connected. That's what I was doing when I was. I was 10.

[Owen]

Wait.

[Enya]

I loved calling the cops when I was 10.

[Owen]

Wait, guys, I never did that.

[Enya]

Really?

[Owen]

I don't think I had an upbringing.

[Enya]

No, you. You.

[Owen]

I never called the cops. Ever, Ever called the.

[Drew]

I mean, that's good. Like, these are bad traits.

[Owen]

Don't. Yeah.

[Enya]

You don't want that.

[Drew]

Yeah, I just.

[Owen]

Well, I don't. Yeah, we don't.

[Enya]

I just wanted people to, like, pay attention to me. Yeah. I wanted to be seen. Totally.

[Drew]

I wanted to like, remind people I was alive.

[Kai]

I called 911 for the first time recently. Recently. But I. I don't think it was the cops.

[Enya]

Hello Kitty says Acab kai.

[Kai]

I called 911. Then they route you either to the police or to medical. So I did medical.

[Owen]

But why'd you call?

[Kai]

I was okay. It was one of the. It was one of the autoimmune things. But I was, like, staying at this apartment for two weeks with two people I had never met prior to this. And then I woke up.

[Enya]

Oh, this was in New York, right?

[Kai]

It was in Bushwick. Yeah. And I woke up, and I, like, couldn't really breathe very well. And then as I'm walking over to the bathroom to, like, throw up, I basically. Yeah, I start to, like, lose enough air where I'm, like. The sides of my vision is, like, going away. So the last thing I Remember is calling 911. And then I woke up in the living room. I guess I had, like, made it to the living room or something, and the medics were there, and one of the people that I was staying with was so sweet and came with me to the hospital and was there with me for. I think they were with me for, like, four or five hours. And it was, like, one of the nicest things.

[Owen]

I know this is your life, and I'm so sorry. That's so.

[Kai]

No, it's okay.

[Owen]

Are you okay?

[Kai]

I'm okay. I have meds and stuff now, so I don't think that'll happen to that extent anymore. But it was the. I forget which one it was. It was a hospital in Bushwick, so it was pretty insane in there. It was pretty crazy. Woodhole, maybe. I don't remember the name of it.

[Owen]

That's traumatizing.

[Kai]

It was crazy. While I was there, I think I was, like, going in and out of consciousness at one point, and someone just ripped their IV out and sprinted away, like, next to me. So we. I don't know. They're maybe not completely in their right mind, but it was. It was a really cool experience.

[Drew]

Well, nothing like that's ever happened to me because God favors me and protects me in ways that, like, I don't even think are recognizable.

[Kai]

That's true.

[Drew]

Yeah. I think about even the mistakes I've met, I've made, and I'm like, God still put me on that.

[Kai]

She's been ignoring me.

[Drew]

Good reason I said she.

[Kai]

Did you notice that? I said she.

[Enya]

God is a woman.

[Drew]

You should cut.

[Kai]

God is a woman. I've been saying that, actually.

[Enya]

Okay.

[Drew]

I was just making sure. Well, because I said it, and, like.

[Enya]

You wanted to stand by their first fight.

[Drew]

I'm standing true. I'm standing true to my word.

[Enya]

Yalls first fight.

[Drew]

Oh, my God. Okay, well, so you gave your media or. No, actually. What are you listening to now? Is man's best friend still? Still.

[Owen]

I'm still on it. She still got you. I'm still on it.

[Drew]

I'm so mad. I did not see her for this tour. I didn't get to see her. For me, it's like I missed Rosalia when she was doing Moto Mommy, and I just missed Sabrina doing that. And I'm not kidding. I, like, everybody knows this about me. If there's a concert I want to see, I'll hit not interested on all the time. And then I hadn't seen it come up and I had chances to see it, but I'd always be in and out of town, like, I was always missing.

[Owen]

It changed my. My life.

[Drew]

Don't say that.

[Owen]

I'm so sorry. I saw it 10 times.

[Enya]

Can you tell her to perform for us?

[Owen]

Wait, 100 here. Oh, she's here. Fly her in. Can you imagine?

[Drew]

I'm not kidding. It'd be like on Ellen when she'd bring out, like, lady.

[Owen]

Y' all would see me freak out, literally, Justin Bieber.

[Enya]

I'm going to give her a mic.

[Drew]

Depends if she's like. If she's in her, like, chill attire. Like, respect, respect. But, like, if she came in here in that sequin body bodysuit, I think I would piss myself. I actually think I would piss myself.

[Owen]

I would literally make me so happy. I would tell.

[Enya]

Have you been watching anything, like, movie that you like tv other than heated rivalry? Yeah, I'm with.

[Drew]

Okay, I need to.

[Kai]

I watched the first episode last night.

[Enya]

And Kai wanted to pee.

[Owen]

Heated rivalry.

[Kai]

I had to go pee a couple times. Yeah, Heated rivalry or what was it? Fierce competition.

[Enya]

Fierce competition. Yeah.

[Kai]

He thought it was called fierce competition.

[Owen]

I'm obsessed with that.

[Enya]

I also literally, at that Christmas.

[Owen]

So much hair, by the way.

[Enya]

No, I know.

[Owen]

Fierce competition.

[Drew]

I literally have a Google search of the words fierce competition. Because when he said it to me, I was like, fierce competition is on Wednesday.

[Enya]

But I was at the Christmas party yesterday, and I did fierce competition.

[Owen]

And then fierce competitor. You're like, I think you got it wrong. It's fierce competitor.

[Drew]

I'm not kidding. That's why. Because I was like, it wasn't showing up. And he kept repeating it, so I was like.

[Enya]

But I. I kept. We were like, everyone there was gay, so that's all we gay. Guys talk about now is fierce competition. And, like, I kept bringing it up and saying that, and they're like, what are you talking about? Literally, what are you talking about?

[Owen]

Dead that you're with these older gay men and you're, like, trying to be, like, liked by. You know what I mean? And you're like, I. I've actually been watching the show. Fierce competition.

[Drew]

They're like, okay, mind you, in the middle of eating his, like, 30th, literally.

[Owen]

You'Re eating all of their bacon wrap days. He's like, talking about your pickled fringe fries, French fries, and being like, I don't know about you. I'm watching first.

[Enya]

That's literally what it's giving. Like, it was.

[Owen]

That is so funny.

[Drew]

Well, thank you.

[Enya]

I love you guys. Thank you so much for coming.

[Owen]

We. Can we do this again?

[Drew]

Yes.

[Enya]

Yes, Literally. So come to talk to.

[Drew]

No, I'm not kidding. In the middle of this, I was like. I've been, like, obsessed with, like, the Daily show and how they have, like, interchanging.

[Owen]

Like, totally get, like, host hosts, and.

[Drew]

I'm like, need that. Like, I love that.

[Owen]

By the way, in on my podcast, I was literally talking about this the other day where I was like, if I ever do weeks away, I'll just have someone come in who I trust, who's funny.

[Enya]

So you guys, Papa's in there.

[Drew]

I'm not. You are. My. Like, that. I saying that to be like, I love.

[Owen]

I would literally do whatever you wanted me to do. And being in this house, seeing this on the Internet for so long and now being here, I'm so lucky.

[Enya]

Wow.

[Owen]

I love you guys.

[Enya]

Love you guys.

[Drew]

Go listen to Owen's podcast. Go watch adults.

[Owen]

Because you can watch adults. But just. Or listen to the podcast. Don't do either.

[Enya]

Just do it.

[Owen]

Just follow me on Instagram and. And comment.

[Drew]

Like, and comment.

[Owen]

That's all I want. Can I be honest? I just want comments. I'm up.

[Enya]

I want to get to the comments.

[Owen]

Have you gotten to that?

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Yes, but not so much much. Four years ago, I changed my. My, like, rules of my Instagram.

[Owen]

What does that mean?

[Drew]

So to comment, you have to be following me for a certain amount of time. So my comments aren't popping like that anymore.

[Owen]

Wait, I would never do that. I want bots. I literally want bots.

[Drew]

No, that's literally what I, like, hate. Random bots or, like, random people starting conversations.

[Owen]

There's this one bot that always.

[Drew]

You're gonna get bo. You're literally gonna get bo.

[Owen]

There's this one bot that calls me Olin. It's always like o pick and I'm like, I always come back.

[Dakota Payne]

Yay.

[Enya]

Thank you.

[Owen]

I'm so excited. I love him, Olin. He's amazing.

[Drew]

Okay, well, somebody bought Owen's account.

[Owen]

Come on. Bought me bottom, bought me so much.

[Enya]

So my friends text, let's do a quick little weekend getaway. Super chill, right? Famous last words. Suddenly someone's buying a bonfire outfit and apparently there's a boat. Now that's when I pull out my Karna card. Swipe done. And if I want it off my plate now, I can pay in full or I can pay later. No IOUs, no stress, because the Klarna card isn't just a card. It's how you survive. Friends plans plus no credit impact when you apply. Learn more about klarna [e-mail] debit flex card pay Later Plans issued by Webbank. Deposits in your balance account are held at WebBank, member FDIC anywhere visa is accepted, certain merchant product good and service restrictions apply. Some merchants do not accept virtual cards. Physical card only included with a paid Klarna membership plan.

[Owen]

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[Dakota Payne]

This is Dakota Payne from OK Storytime. Have you been scrolling through TikTok Live? Lately? Because the biggest creator celebration of the year is happening right now. It's called Live Fest 2025, and it's a global spotlight on creators of every talent you can enter. Imagine, I'm talking singing, dancing, gaming, comedy. You name it, it's there. From December 10th to 22nd, Live Fest goes full throttle, with creators going live, competing, and showing what makes this community so special. So check out LiveFest2025 on TikTok to cheer on your favorite live creators and catch everything happening during Live Fest. Let's celebrate live together.

[Drew]

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[Enya]

Janice Torres here, and I'm Austin Hankwicz. We host the podcast Mind the Business, Small Business Success Stories, produced by Ruby Studio in partnership with Intuit QuickBooks.

[Drew]

We're back for season four to talk to some incredible small business owners. Owners.

[Enya]

The big thing about working at tech is that it's ever evolving, ever changing. Everyone's a rookie. That's how fast the industry is changing.

[Drew]

So what I'm really excited about is.

[Enya]

To be part of that change. So listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Owen]

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