fArt is fashion

Summary

Emergency Intercom: “fArt is fashion”

Podcast: Emergency Intercom
Hosts: Enya Umanzor, Drew Phillips
Date: May 8, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode is a signature blend of chaotic humor, social commentary, and close-friend banter. The main themes revolve around celebrating their friend Josiah’s birthday, reflections on current Internet and pop culture cycles, the Met Gala, cycles of art and fashion, and the pitfalls of hyper-consumption, both online and off. The hosts—joined by Josiah and Kai—bounce between personal anecdotes, commentary on cultural events, and meta-observations about technology, attention, and what it means to actually connect in 2026.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Josiah’s Birthday Shenanigans

• [02:23] – [08:00]

• The episode kicks off with a raucous celebration for Josiah (aka Joseph), who turns 25.
• Running jokes about a “turn up” birthday hat that looks suspiciously like a Trump hat (“My birthday wish is literally to turn up and you’re gonna get it.” – Josiah, [03:09]).
• Stories about past birthday posts and confusion caused by the hat.
• Warm, chaotic well-wishes from all, with mock-threats to listeners if they don’t wish him a happy birthday.
• Notable quote: “If you don’t say happy birthday, you’re not going to see your next birthday.” -- Enya, [08:03]
• Discussion about keeping fresh Uniqlo underwear and socks for guests, leading to a comedic story of Drew injuring himself: “I bled for y’all… I hurt for y’all, and I feel like I don’t get the recognition I deserve.” – Drew, [08:26]

2. Celebrity & Influencer Culture: Met Gala and Modern Obsessions

• [22:10] – [32:32]

• Deep dive into this year’s Met Gala.
• Observing the effect of “rage bait” looks (namely Chanel jeans and blouse).
• Discussion of shifting hosts and chairpersons, notably Jeff Bezos’ wife as "bonus chairperson."
• Commentary on endless cycles of body and beauty standards in pop culture—how public obsession swings from one celebrity to another.
• Quote: “...We are literally living through a mockumentary of what it means to be a good person.” – Enya, [24:29]
• Meta-analysis of how culture keeps repeating conversations about bodies, fashion, and public morality.

3. The Internet, Repetition, & Burnout

• [28:52] – [32:32]

• Observations on social media cycles, political engagement burnout, and algorithm-driven isolation.
• Critique of “the wall of repetition” in pop culture and digital life, leading to overload and apathy.
• AI’s contribution to this repetition, including in movies and music.
• Quote: “It is just overload on every end.” – Enya, [30:19]
• The hosts liken modern digital life to being stuck in a hamster wheel—“fed mediocrity” on all fronts.

4. The Algorithm and Modern Consumption

• [33:15] – [39:40]

• The hosts reflect on how digital platforms are designed to maximize screen time, deepening feelings of isolation.
• Drew and Enya ponder whether younger generations will rebel and seek more real-life interaction as a counterculture response.
• Enya recounts family stories about media consumption before personalized Internet and reflects on her younger siblings’ struggles to find meaning beyond the phone.
• A recurring theme: “It’s not necessarily media consumption that is killing our nation. It’s the media in which you are consuming.” – Enya, [38:22]

5. Group Dynamic & Real-Life Connection

• [41:01] – [43:15]

• Discussion about organizing in-person community events, such as movie screenings, to foster real connection outside of digital life.
• Drew approvingly references LA’s underground home-restaurant scene as a community-building model.
• “I want to be able to start doing community things, that are removed from myself…” – Enya, [41:50]

6. Met Gala Fashion Deep Dive & Critique

• [22:13] – [26:53], [54:42] – [60:13]

• Mixed reviews of various Met Gala looks:
  • Praise for Emma’s standout look and Rachel Sennott’s unconventional style.
  • Enthusiastic discussion over Hunter Schafer’s and Paloma’s outfits; Tom of Finland and Annabelle doll references abound.
• Critique of negative Internet dogpiles on celebrities like Hudson Williams for their makeup or style choices.
• “When Shane Dawson was doing it, y’all were fucking screaming and shouting.” – Drew, [59:18]
• “A dragged out wing is not for you... maybe next time, let’s try a rounder, overkill blush.” – Drew, [59:57]
• Ongoing observations about male and female double standards.

7. Gross-Out Humor, Food, and Health

• [13:27] – [15:58], [40:09] – [40:47], [54:05] – [55:25]

• Graphic but comic accounts of Enya’s recent food poisoning: “If you are, like, scared of vomit talk, maybe jump to whatever time we put for right now, because it’s about to be all I talk about.” – Enya, [12:14]
• Discussion of eating poorly-stored leftovers, lengthy bouts of sickness, and at-home remedies.
• Several bathroom-related tangents, including how Kai got pinkeye and the saga of blueberry-stained fingers and dingleberries.

8. Art, Fashion, and the Appropriation Cycle

• [52:11] – [53:37]

• Drew and Enya contemplate the nature of art and theft: “Steal like an artist.”
• Parody of high-minded fashion conversations: “Fashion is art.” / “Fashion is fart.”
• The importance of learning well and adapting influences openly.

9. Media Recommendations & Music Shout-outs

• [61:09] – [63:42]

• Enya:
  • “Tulsa Jesus Freak,” “Everything I’ve Ever Wanted” by Tiffany Day, “baby” by Jane Remover.
  • “Rain has a song that is out right now called Infatuation, which I love so much.”
• Kai:
  • “Quiet Light”—new album recommendation; praised for discovering underground pop stars years before mainstream.
• Group:
  • Film: “Wild at Heart”—praised for inspiration.
• Discussions on finding joy and inspiration in new music and movies, despite Internet cynicism.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If you don't say happy birthday, you're not going to see your next birthday." – Enya [08:03]
• "I bled for y'all… I hurt for y'all, and I feel like I don't get the recognition I deserve." – Drew [08:26]
• “Small cuts, they add up… The smaller cuts leave a bigger scar, compounding interest.” – Enya [09:19]
• “We are literally living through a mockumentary of what it means to be a good person.” – Enya [24:29]
• “Your body makes me feel nothing. Because I have object permanence issues. Like, actually, I would argue that half of the bodies I see on my phone, you’re not real until I see you in flesh.” – Enya [24:49]
• “When Shane Dawson was doing it, y’all were fucking screaming and shouting.” – Drew [59:18]
• “Steal like an artist.” – Drew & Enya [52:27]
• “I want to be able to start doing community things that are removed from myself because I don’t want it to be, like... I actually want it to be like a budding thing of its own, if that makes sense.” – Enya [41:50]
• “It’s not necessarily media consumption that is killing our nation. It’s the media in which you are consuming.” – Enya [38:22]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:23] - Birthday celebration chaos for Josiah
• [08:26] - Drew’s story of bleeding for his friends
• [13:27] - Enya’s food poisoning saga
• [22:13] - Met Gala discussion: looks, body talk, media cycles
• [24:29] - Enya’s “mockumentary” take on public morality
• [28:52] - Internet repetition and political burnout cycles
• [33:15] - Algorithm as isolator, digital media consumption reflections
• [41:01] - Brainstorming in-person, communal (offline!) events
• [52:27] - “Steal like an artist” and the debate: is fashion art or fart?
• [61:09] - Media/music recommendations & closing thoughts

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Style & Tone

• Conversational, fast-paced, irreverent, honest.
• Mix of absurdist humor and genuine insight.
• Group dynamic is strong; voices often overlap, with quick pivots between jokes, critiques, and self-awareness.

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Summary: For the Listener

This episode finds Emergency Intercom at their rambunctious best—using Josiah’s birthday as an excuse to roast, reminisce, and reflect on everything from body standards in pop culture to the isolating effects of endless digital consumption. Their Met Gala breakdown is equal parts critique and inside joke, with fashion discussed both as a serious artform and as the butt of a joke (literally “fArt is fashion”).

The group asks thoughtful questions about how we connect and inspire each other, the value of going outside, art’s slippery place in the era of AI and repetition, and—in their own slang and self-deprecation—offer up a heartfelt case for caring about real community beyond the confines of a screen.

For anyone who wants to laugh, cringe, and occasionally be surprised by depth among the bits, this episode is a strong snapshot of this generation’s relationship with culture, connection, and chaos.

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Welcome back to Emergency Intercom guys. The most brilliant, encouraging and fruitful opening for this episode because it is someone special's birthday.

[A]

I know, it's so exciting.

[C]

It's Yalls favorite person. He always makes you extremely uncomfortable when he's a guest. Yet you still beg for more. Give it up for Josiah, AKA Joseph. Joseph, happy birthday.

[A]

Happy birthday, Joseph.

[C]

Sit in your special birthday spot.

[A]

My birthday.

[C]

Do you have any birthday wishes? Do you have any pieces of Wisdom for the big 2, 5 Trump hat?

[A]

No. It says turn up. My birthday. My birthday wish is literally to turn

[C]

up and you're gonna get it. I think you're gonna get it.

[A]

I'm gonna turn up tonight.

[C]

I think that's easy. Do you want anything more?

[A]

Let's all turn up tonight.

[C]

Hey, everybody, this is your chance. Go crazy.

[A]

Pull up to the Versace karaoke room. That's what we'll.

[C]

Yeah, we'll be at the Versace Karaoke Town. We're super excited. It the room holds 13 to 20 people. It'll be about maybe 10 or 11 of us. Yeah, very exciting.

[A]

Beautiful. And the fun funny thing about this hat is in 2020, I voted in that hat and I posted an Instagram story saying, go fucking vote blue. And everyone was like, why are you saying vote blue if you're wearing a Trump hat? Because it looks like it. Yeah, in. In the photo, it literally looks.

[C]

Yeah, because it was like his head was down and it looked like incognito. Oh, Josie is so happy for his birthday.

[A]

That's my birthday. Bop.

[C]

Go, Josie.

[A]

All right, well, thanks, guys.

[C]

I love you so much. You are literally the like apple of R I. Is that a saying? That is a saying.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Period. Your hair is so gorgeous. You should go and use some of my curl products in the bathroom.

[A]

Yeah, you should go finger your ass.

[C]

There's actually. It's like if you're bored and you. Your hair would curl so much if you put this one thing in it that I have. If you go up there, there's a honeydew foam, like, it's called like honey D O U X dux maw. Oh, that's actually. I do support Kai's stalker in that way.

[A]

Did you see the Connor or not Connor story? What's the other guy's name? Hudson. He was all night footage of him at like 7am I felt so bad.

[C]

But he's gotta be quiet.

[A]

But he has to be very quiet, very quiet. Because someone could ask you something. Yes, I did see him and there was like a 70 year old woman being like, I woke up early for you, Hudson. Please, please. I already got Connor. Please, please. Dead silent, like marching, like charging, rolling out of his bro because I feel so bad guy.

[C]

He was like, okay, whatever. I could go get up, but. And I could probably just get back at a certain time. No one's going to be there. Damn, y' all really have the time.

[A]

And he was. He's like, between movies, I saw in his interview with Emma, he was like, he landed and then went out all night with his friends. Didn't sleep. Went to the Met gala and then went out all night again.

[C]

He did rivalry. More like heated relapse. Hudson Williams seen out all night tweaking. Clock it.

[A]

We see that Molly Jaw. Hudson Hudson story. We secretly. We secretly own dua. We run Duke Dukesmoi.

[D]

It's Dukesmo. It's pronounced Dukesmoi.

[A]

Oh, maybe Kai owns it.

[D]

Yeah. Did you see Kai?

[C]

Lottie does own it.

[D]

No, the camera.

[A]

Hi, Kai.

[D]

Hi. Happy birthday.

[A]

Thank you. I literally also. Most of the reason why I came in here, I told Drew I was like, I'm gonna go see Kai and see if he remembers it's my birthday. Of course I remember. And you did. The only reason he remembered is because the first thing I said to him when he walked in was, it's Josiah's birthday.

[D]

Not true.

[A]

Are you serious?

[C]

Not sure. He has an iPhone.

[D]

It's on my phone.

[C]

It's probably because also iPhone. And I know Kai probably has this shit set up where, like, anytime somebody texts you on their birthday, just adds to calendar or something.

[A]

I think that's, like, such a good feature. I'm like. I literally think it's, like, genius. And also, like, everyone, I think if we all rallied together and did it together, no one would ever be forgotten on their birthday ever again. But can we go back to Hudson song?

[C]

Yeah, it's the Samsun Dryer song.

[A]

Y' all are gonna have to clear that sample.

[C]

You know, Northwest sampled that on her new album.

[A]

I believe it, bro. Wait, guys. We've been listening to Josiah's new demos on his first solo project, and it's fucking crazy. Oh, yeah. I'm going Beyonce on Destiny's Child. Oh, no. Oh, no. Don't let me out the house, because I'm gonna shut the industry down.

[C]

Josiah is, by the way, an industry plant. So the second his music comes out, if you're like, what the fuck? This is so random.

[A]

I'm like, somber.

[C]

Because. Yeah.

[A]

Also let me use this platform to say Somber is literally my boyfriend, and I like him like that. I want somber. And I think he's the. He's my top listened to artist this year.

[C]

Josie. Josie got to play around in that little. That little robe he was wearing at the Met Gal when he saw it on The. On the camera, he was like, oh, my God, it looks so good. I. When I see it, I miss playing around in it. Like, he said he would get behind the cape and, like, excuse me.

[A]

For the fitting. Yeah, we do fisting stuff. Yeah. I'm going to dip out, but I love you. And I love you. And I love you.

[C]

Happy birthday.

[A]

Thank you, everybody. Sound off. Happy birthday. In the comments.

[C]

If you don't say happy birthday, you're not going to see your next birthday.

[A]

Yep. Make. Make this shit go viral. We got to get Josiah on Ellen.

[C]

We need Josiah to go viral for his birthday so he can have his appearance on Ellen.

[A]

Hello. Okay. Well, no one ever say, I haven't bled for y'. All. I bleed. I bleed for y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

I hurt for y', all, and I feel like I don't get the recognition I deserve. Josiah spent the night last night and really wanted to shower today, but he didn't bring underwear and socks. So I always keep fresh pairs of Uniqlo boxers and fresh pair of Uniqlo socks for guests in case they need unopened, unused. Went up and grabbed them. Sliced my fucking finger open. I'm. I bled this morning. I bled and it hurt, and I bleed for my friends. I.

[C]

Did you get your blood on his boxers?

[A]

No, it didn't bleed until after, and it actually was kind of like. It bled, like, way more. I thought it was just going to be like, you know, when you, like,

[C]

eat the tiny slices like that that always bleed the most. Yeah, it's the. It's the tiniest cuts.

[A]

Small cuts, they add up.

[C]

Small cuts that blee.

[A]

The small cuts add up.

[C]

The smaller cuts leave a bigger scar, compounding interest.

[A]

But I bled all over the place. And then Josh and Josiah were like, you need to lick that. And I was like, I don't lick up my blood. Like, I'm gonna get aids.

[C]

Hey, so that's yours?

[A]

Yeah. No, but I. I tried my blood for the first time. I licked it, and it was.

[C]

Have you never, like, licked a cut?

[A]

Never, ever once in my life. Because all the weird kids did it growing up. And I was like, I don't want to be associated with that.

[D]

That.

[C]

That is quite literally the craziest thing I've ever heard come out of your mouth. That. That is the weird thing kids did. That you avoided. Says the person who was, like, begging his parents to turn a balcony into an inside, outside terrarium for albino Burmese python.

[A]

Y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

Look. Look up an albino Burmese python right now. Kind insert a photo and tell me that a seven year old child wouldn't want that. And did I tell you the story recently that like my parents were like, okay, well we'll get one for you, but you have to see how they're fed. So they took me to the pet store and it was really scary, dude. Like eating a big ass rabbit.

[D]

What size did you want? Did you want the jumbo size?

[A]

I wanted it small and then get to like 18ft. I mean about the size of my

[C]

penis, but that would have it. What's insane is grower baby on like unironically you. What's the lifespan of that animal?

[A]

I would still have it to this day.

[C]

Yeah, no, we would. Your life would be very different because I would have never lived with you. Absolutely not. Like actually so many things would have been different. Like the second I met you and learned that you had had a snake for that long, I think at first I would find it endearing, but we would have never lived together. Like this podcast would not exist if you had that ass.

[A]

I don't even think they're legal here. But you know, the Everglades, they're all, they're running. It's overrun by those fucking snakes. Because people get them and release them into the wild and then they start fucking and breeding and then they become top predator and ruin the fucking ecosystem. So I would have done that. I would have gone to the Everglades.

[D]

There's tops in like snake society. There's tops and bottom.

[C]

Saturday, I was having the best day of my fucking life. I was like, you really were in such a. Such a good one. Like I felt like so, like I just felt so, so good. And then I was like, it. I've been up since 6am Because I just wake up early every day now. I was like, I'm gonna take a nap so that like maybe I go out or something tonight. Like who knows? It's Saturday night, take a nap. Drew goes to wake me up at like 6:30.

[A]

No, at 8:15. It was actually 8:13. And I was like, hey Anya, it's 8:13. You might want to wake up. You've been asleep for two hours.

[C]

No, that point I had been asleep for four hours. Cuz I, I got like, I got to bed. I probably knocked out around like five. So at that point I was asleep for a few hours and I think I was just like, no, sleepy Saturday.

[A]

I love a sleepy Saturday.

[C]

No, this was up. I like then Drew tries to wake me up. I remember being like, no. I roll back over and Then I get a phone call, and I answer it, and like, two seconds later, I. I, like, answer the phone, and I'm like, kella, wait, hold on. I have no. And I, like, hung up, jumped up, ran to the bathroom and fudgeing, puked like, crazy town. It was so gross. If you are, like, not, like, if you're scared of vomit, talk, maybe jump to, like, whatever time we put for right now, because it's about to all be all I talk about. I am assuming I gave myself food poisoning. Like, I don't think this is on the Chinese restaurant that I got it from, but I ate some leftover Chinese food that I had let sit in the container, like, that plastic container on the. On the counter or I didn't let it sit out and cool down. I put it kind of warm in the fridge the night before. And then the next day, that's what I ate. That's all I had eaten. Dude. Oh, my God. That was, like, insane. If I don't think anybody remembers this, but, like, three years ago in Nebraska, when Drew and I went for a college show, I got, like, the worst food poisoning ever.

[A]

And we had the best vibe ever for me because I got to go to a March Madness game alone, and it was a lit ass match. But I don't know if I told you, like, I felt so guilty leaving you in that hotel room. But then I, like, as time moved on, I was like, it's probably for the best because, like, she was and fart and blowing that toilet up for, like, hours.

[C]

So it's probably, like, both ends. Like, like, oh, my God.

[A]

Wait, you got in both ends?

[C]

Yes, but export.

[A]

Like, import export.

[C]

Yeah, but I woke up through. Threw up everywhere and was like, okay, that has to be it. Like, it didn't feel like something that was gonna happen again. And I was. I felt so confident about that being it. I was like, oh, okay. Like, oh, just upset stomach. Maybe. I, like, fell asleep too fast after eating whatever. Took a shower, like, felt perfectly fine for a second, and then went to go lay back down. And I was like, oh, okay, I guess I should, like, eat something. And then I thought about eating and immediately ran up to throw up again. Il Drew, you're scaring me. Ran up to go throw up again, and then just spent the next, like, seven hours through the night sweating my ass off, getting up and throwing up every hour and trying to, like, aid myself back to health. And then Sunday, I just, like, slept all day because I was at that point where, like, I couldn't ingest anything. So I didn't feel like a normal human until, like, Monday night. And that's what I did. While y' all were. While y' all were having, like, such a fun, sweet night, I was literally, like. It also doesn't help that the pajamas I was wearing were all of my, like, nightgowns that are, like, terry cloth long dresses. And I would, like, fall asleep, wake up soaking wet, and be like, I don't feel good and have to run, like, across my room like a ghost to the bathroom.

[A]

A ghastly ghost. Yeah. I got home the next day at 4 and Inya was still asleep. She was still asleep in bed. And I was like, guys, me and Kai, can we talk about the song we made? I mean, we probably shouldn't show it because, like, it's gonna be on the album, but, like, Mika and Tucker made a song together, dude.

[C]

That being one of the first things, mind you, I like.

[D]

That's what you heard.

[C]

My screen time from Saturday to Monday is three hours in total. Like, I was not alive and conscious. One of the only, like, sounds I heard that day, other than Drew's voice, was that song.

[A]

And honestly, like, I'm, like, the only visual.

[C]

Yeah, no, you were lit. It actually did that whole, like, the retelling of the night y' all had actually did. It felt like what the grandparents and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory felt when, like, Charlie came and told them about his day. I was like, you know what? I might be ridden to this bed covered in bed sores, but at least my children are out and prosper. Finding out I had OCD alone was genuinely so relieving, it felt like it gave an answer to a question I had always been asking, which is, why do I have so many questions? Why are the questions never ending? And why do all the questions end with me being horrible and I'm going to burn for eternity for all of the bad things I do all day, even though I don't do anything bad.

[A]

And don't forget about that skin scrubbing.

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Yeah.

[C]

This is my best friend Janet. And we have been joined at the hips and sizes school. Absolutely. Now, a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip, just a little bit bigger hips Wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey with all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white claw or something? Here, just hang it. What are y' all doing? Microphones. Are you making a rap album?

[A]

No, I wouldn't.

[C]

How could you believe it? I would buy it.

[B]

Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake.

[C]

That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You're lucky I'm not a killer.

[A]

I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh,

[C]

listen to soccer moms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts bring.

[A]

Yep, it was a beautiful night. Also, LA live show tomorrow.

[C]

I know, Saturday.

[A]

Big things coming, big plans happening. There's going to be a surprise guest on stage with us the entire show, so be so excited for that.

[C]

Rolling my eyes. Rolling my eyes.

[D]

What? What?

[C]

Should we get a dunk tank on stage?

[A]

I mean, we literally could.

[D]

For me to get in? Yeah, okay, yeah, I'll do that. If you guys want that, I'll do it.

[A]

I would get in it. I'd let y' all throw balls.

[D]

Oh my God. Could we fill it with piss maybe or. No, Nevermind. That's too weird, probably.

[C]

That's unsanitary. I think I'm gonna swim out to the boat and save everyone. That boat with hantavirus on it. Oh, I think I'm just gonna swim out there, get on, like kind of suss it out. I think they're being a bit dramatic.

[A]

My family group chat was blowing up today. I Woke up to 42 text messages.

[C]

Were you supposed to go on a cruise?

[A]

We're supposed to go on a cruise. And they're all like, are we still doing that? And I'm like, girl, yes, we're still doing that. Like that's. But they. I think I. This could be misinformation. So I'm prefacing this potentially as misinformation. But I did see a four words of a thread on Instagram that said hantavirus confirmed. And I'm assuming it's the human to human transmission and not from the rodent droppings. But do you remember in 2020, 2021, 2022, if you said the Word Covid or coronavirus, your entire channel would be nuked. Yeah, that's fucking crazy. Like, that's like real fucking crazy. But it makes sense. Like, because there was a lot of misinformation going around. But it's like, damn, they really can censor. Like, and like, you just have to take it. You have to just take it raw.

[C]

Not me. No one can censor me.

[A]

Should we talk about Met Gala? Met Gala happened.

[C]

Oh, my God. Speaking of censorship, literally, the Met Gala. Also, my nails are so up. Like, it's actually crazy because I have a lot to say about the Met Gala too.

[A]

The Met Gala was interesting this year. Emma's look so then gaggy. And it sucks for everyone else that she was the first fucking person on the red carpet because she low key might have had like the best look of the night.

[C]

Well, because she set also kind of a, like a standard. Specifically in a sea of neutrals. My issue is like, I think everyone for the most part looked like, beautiful. All of like Chanel's people looked really good.

[A]

What was the deal with the girl in Chanel jeans in a blouse? I like rage bait. Was that on purpose?

[C]

I don't know. I mean, that's a part of the like Chanel Runway look set up. Like that was one of the looks. And I think that got a lot of like, oh, like question and commentary. So I think it's partially just like rage bait. But I don't fudgeing know.

[A]

Yeah, we're talking about it.

[C]

Yeah. And let's talk about it.

[A]

And let's talk about it.

[C]

The really confusing part about that whole livestream was the random people who are now a part of it since Jeff Bezos has bought into it. And watching Anna Winter shout out Jeff Bezos wife as, as like, like a bonus chair person, which is like, really, she's a bone. Like just for the funsies.

[A]

More like a bone head. A bone heiress.

[C]

But my only thing is, I will say half of the white girls on the carpet, you do need to lose about, about 30 more pounds before you make me happy.

[A]

Thank you.

[D]

Somebody said it because.

[C]

Because like you're, you're, you think you're doing it, but I can see through the veil and like, I know you're eating.

[D]

At least we should be able to see through you.

[A]

Yeah, I would like clear skin. I want clear skin. I want bones and all that.

[C]

Bones and all. Bones and all predictive programming. Bones and all. I'm not kidding, though, unironically. I am so bored of the conversation about people's bodies, like on both ends. I think it is so redundant. It is never end. It is literally at this point.

[A]

Culture is cyclical. We're having the same conversations over and over.

[C]

Also, I'm like, we're living in a fucking mockumentary. We are literally living through a mockumentary of what it means to be a good person. And I. I talk about this. I feel like every episode I mention how our moral landscape is all fucked up because we've learned how to capitalize on it. But shut the up. Because I actually couldn't give a what anybody weighs. And personally, and I know, like a lot of people can't say this, this I love myself no matter what the I look like. But all. And I do not care to look at someone's body and think about the way it makes me feel about my body. Because guess what? Your body makes me feel nothing. Because I have. I have object permanence issues. Like, ho. Actually, I would argue that half of the bodies I see on my phone, you're not real until I see you in flesh. And even then I would argue you're not real. So I don't care what your body looks like. And a lot of y' all need to shut the up. Oh my God.

[A]

I mean, I literally crashed out to you and Orion last night. Last night about it. It's. It's getting to a point also just

[C]

like the, like, both ends of it, like, the obsession with monitoring people's weight and then the obsession, like, I'm like, you guys are fueling like addicts at this point.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

Like, it's like at the basis of everything. It's. Until people understand addiction culture, none of us will ever be able to find the balance within anything. And that goes from aesthetics to fucking interpersonal relationship. Lot of y' all are schizophrenic, period.

[A]

Clocky.

[C]

Also, if one more person talks about Ariana Grande and the way she looks, ho. Actually, I'm going to start stabbing. Y' all leave that girl's name Addie All Mouth. Everyone likes to pick a woman every two years who becomes the standard hyper fixation for their body. And like, it was Bella for a while and then Bella disappeared and then like, now Ariana replaced that. Like, Ariana is the new like, like, like replacement thing for Bella. Hadid's skinny, like, cool. I don't know. It's so weird. And like, it starts off funny and then again the balance gets thrown off because y' all literally. Oh, my God.

[A]

It gets to a point with all that said Though I loved Rachel Sineads and that gala look. I literally loved it. I ate that up. I don't know what the general consensus is on it, but, like, I thought that was so sick. And I think that's gonna age the best out of all the looks in like a decade. I love that.

[C]

Showing up, like, after being gone from the public eye for like 17 years is such a gag. And nobody is talking about it, like, is fierce. Did you see Troy's look, Kai?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lady Gaga's alter ego.

[C]

Dude, I'm not kidding.

[A]

The clip of Lady Gaga's joke how the roan clapping Grammys is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. Was it MTV or Grammys?

[C]

Like, no, it's mtv, bro. They would not let. They would not have let her done that at the Grammys. Nicki Minaj got banned from the Grammys for doing, like, something borderline satanic.

[A]

Was it when she was.

[C]

She did Roman's Revenge take a short vacation moment? Like, I mean, but. Oh, also, I wanted to say this. Yeah, it's all about balance. Like, everybody now talks about politics, but now, because everyone went from never talking about it and never having it, even with their, like, friend to friend dynamic, it went to full extremes because it opened the doors to so much moral fucking. Like, I don't know, it just like,

[A]

it's also like everything.

[C]

Everything is at an extreme. But I do have hope.

[A]

Well, it's literally we're going to hit a flow. I think I've literally seen this happen for the last 12 years where like, every election cycle, the first year and a half, maybe two years, everyone is so politically engaged to, like, a degree where it becomes like a fiber of their being and everyone's doing that and everyone's at each other's throat and everyone hates each other. And then we all. At the same time, it's like, ourselves out, we all burn out. And there's got to be, like, a balance to it. And I don't know what that looks like, and I don't even know if that's helpful to say out loud. But, like, look, like, no one's talking about it right now. No one's talking about anything going on in the world because everyone just burnt themselves out. And it's just like. I don't know. It's. It's. I don't know.

[C]

It's also like, what was gonna say? It's like, AI as. And I hate it so much. And I. Everyone knows this, but, like, to me, AI is nothing but repetition. And I think people are. Now, it's like you're saying repetition is what we have been taught, and it goes back to even why we are seeing so many sequels and shit. Nobody wants to engage with something new because I think so many of the new experiences we've been able to engage with have only led to negative attributes.

[A]

It's like, everybody hates the movie when it first drops. Everybody hates the album when it comes out. Everyone hates everything because, like, newness is very scary.

[C]

Especially when I think a lot of people are looking at what we do currently have and what we're sitting with, and that doesn't necessarily reflect well on us. And that goes even into, like, the, like, politics conversation. Even when you think about that, like, what is anyone really talking about? Like, and I even think about that for myself. Like, I've been thinking a lot about how I think I'm somebody with a lot to say, and I don't really know what I'm doing with it. And I think it does just. Just. It is just because everyone is, like, jaded right now, because it is just overload on every end. Like, you. You can't.

[A]

And that's. That was all a part of the plan of the Trump administration. Like, literally, it was written out in Project 2025, was to, like, just rain a barrage of just every bad thing ever that could possibly happen and every bad change this administration could make. Do it all in the beginning. So then they can move in silence and do, like, the real, like, crazy that they want to do. And, like, it's literally working. Like, oh, I will never, ever, ever forgive a single person that voted for Donald Trump. I will literally. I will literally never forgive you. I hate you. I fucking hate you.

[C]

I like, Met Gala.

[A]

Met Gala. I love Met Gala.

[C]

I know. Well, that's the thing is now we can't even, like, Even the entertainment is just. I think that's even the worst part, actually. Okay, wait. I was having this conversation where I'm, like, we're hitting a wall of repetition, and, like, we are being fed mediocrity. I would even admit that, like, I have fallen into line with that. And, like, everyone has, because we're all hitting this wall of, like, if you do not engage with this hamster wheel and this rat race, you might as well kill yourself.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

And that's been something that I've always tried to, like, engage with, like, in a civil manner, because I know that I am somebody who, like, I get really overwhelmed by that kind of thing, and then it does kind of break My brain. Because I'm like, I know I'm speaking from such a. A higher standard. Not higher standard, but, like, I'm. I'm speaking from like, the top of a church right now. Like, bitch, I got balcony seats at the church. Like, I know that it sounds crazy coming out of my mouth, but we've all been fed this, like, mediocrity. And then, I don't know, I think about, like, even the entertainment and, like, the repetition of everything and how, like, we are seriously slop on all ends. It's not even just AI slop. Now I'm like, we are meeting human slop because we've had so much AI that it doesn't matter. And even people who have something meaningful and worthwhile to say are like, kind of hunkering down in this space of like, I don't want to give that to the Internet, let alone the public, because everyone is at such a, like, heating point and people want a certain thing.

[A]

It's scary to put out new shit right now because it just isn't ever received well. Also, just like the algorithm is literally, like, designed to isolate us and like, that's. It's literally doing its job. So we sit on our goddamn phone for longer and away from human beings, so we're lonelier. So we fall, we may build this connection with our fucking iPhones and then. And the algorithm promotes this, like, nasty fucking cesspool of content that, like, just turns your brain off, rots it doesn't stimulate it. Because if you had a stimulated brain, you'd want to go outside and experience the world. But that does not serve the purpose of big tech. But also, okay, they need you on that damn phone.

[C]

Here. Here's my. My new devil's advocate in terms of consumption overall, I've been thinking about. Because I've been thinking a lot about my own consumption, whether it be what I put in my body, what I put in my mind, what I put in my soul, what I put my spirit, blah, blah, what I buy, what I don't buy, whatever. And you always make the joke where you're like, living in a digital age is really just deciding what screen you're gonna give your attention to. And I think a lot about how, like, we grew up on the last kind of run of people who were, like, forced to go outside. Like, there was no question about it. Also, it's not like you could go outside and have something in your hand. It's like you either got to be in front of that big ass heavy TV or your parents Were like, you can't be in front of that big ass heavy tv. Go do something. And also the options weren't as, like, unlimited. It was like you usually had like. I mean, my family, we had like cable, but at that time, like the. You didn't get to pick what movies were on TV. There wasn't as much kids content on TV.

[A]

Oh my God.

[C]

When.

[A]

When DirecTV made it so you could like record a movie that was so gaggy. I remember like, one time I like deleted like a movie that my dad, like, recorded on accident. I don't even know how I did it. And it was. It was a big deal.

[C]

It was a big over Someone's like, space because there was like, on the dvr, there was only a certain amount of space. And I remember we had a Gorillaz Live. Damn, it's crazy to think this was in like, like 2013 what I'm thinking of. I think. But there was like a live stream from a festival on like BBC or something of the Gorillas. And my sister and I had recorded

[A]

on the Big Black Hawk.

[C]

Yeah. But me and my sister had recorded it and then our little sister recorded something else and dug into like the first like 15 minutes of our recording. And I was so mad at her because I don't think that was like, even an era where something that random would be like, on uploaded on YouTube until it. Because, like, there wasn't a demand for it. Like, the Gorillaz channel wasn't like, oh, my God, we need to upload this performance immediately. People are waiting to see it. Because that's how it is now. Like after the Met Gala, within three seconds, they start uploading the like, top tier cookie interviews immediately. But also, if I'm being annoying, I can stop.

[D]

Do you think that people that are younger and younger generations also feel this way?

[A]

Feel what way?

[D]

Well, I guess the sentiment of we like this generation being the last one where you felt like you were growing up before the Internet being integrated. I don't really know anybody who's.

[A]

It's always the generation before that hates the generation behind it.

[D]

But I just, I wonder because I do see on TikTok, I'll see younger people that are like, that feel that way, but I don't know them. So I'm like, I don't know if

[A]

I'm gonna be a counterculture.

[C]

I mean, my. My siblings who are. My little brother's about to be 16 and my little sister turns 18 this year. Specifically my sister Natalie, she talks to me actually about it often. Especially now. She Finished her school year early, so. And she's just been at home and, like, she. She has been calling me a bunch, and she'll just be like, dude, I don't know what to do because I literally don't have, like, outside stuff to do. Like, there's just, like, nothing to do other than be on my phone. And that's all I really know how to do. And it makes me feel like. And I know I need to, like, go and do something else. Like, she's already very cognitive of the fact that, like, holy. I'm, like, kind of scared because I'm going into my adulthood with no means of, like, enjoyment for my life other than my phone or, like. I mean, because she. She doesn't have, like, a budding social life in the way like, an adult does yet, where she can, like, meet up with her friends. Her friends are either in school or her friends are, like, parents are stricter. Her own parents won't let her go out. So it's like this odd thing of. I feel like even at that age, at 17, I did feel like I was able to fill my time really well. But that goes back to consumption.

[A]

I'll never forget when Kai at one point was like, dude, it's like, like, Gen Alpha's, like, entire Internet presence is behind, like, avatars, and it's not really tied to their name, which I think is just, like, really fascinating. And I think that's, like, part of the counterculture. But I literally. I do think, like, kids are going to, like, their brains are gonna, like, get to, like, a boiling point where they're gonna be like, we have to go outside. We literally. We literally have to go outside.

[C]

Well, that kind of, like.

[A]

Yeah, but I. My. My nephew is the same way. He's like, all I do all day is play video games on Roblox and be on iPhone. And it's like. He's like. He doesn't have friends outside of the Internet, which, like, terrifyingly sad.

[C]

Well, because everything, again, it's balance. And I keep saying that, but I'm the worst at balance. And Drew knows that more than anybody. I have, like, oh, my God. I don't know balance at all. But I do think it's a. You have to be able to. Oh, the consumption thing. Like, as a teenager, I was definitely. But I was, like, watching random movies. I've, like, always been lucky enough that, like, I do have some interest in reading. So, like, I don't. I'm not, like, a bookworm by any means, but, like, I usually have A book that I'm down to read or, like, I have the hobbies of, like, drawing and painting and, like, doing stuff with clay, so I've always been able to free my time up like that. And I, like, like, listening to music and listening through full albums, so I'm like, I don't think it's necessarily media consumption that is killing our nation. It's the media in which you are consuming. Because I spend a lot of time on YouTube, but I watch people like Nicole Rudolph, who just talks about American history of fashion and how it ties into, like, culture and what's his name? Oh, my God, he's back. Scott. Tom Scott. He's back. Guys, that's not the science guy.

[A]

See, I need Niall Red and Niall Blue. I need him to release five videos every day. He makes the best videos I've ever seen.

[C]

The chemist guy?

[A]

Yeah, I love his videos Downhill, like, turn, like, boogers into gold. Like, it's, like, really gaggy. I forgot to mention earlier that the night me and Kai went out, it was stink night night. So everyone was stinky, which, like, I can get down with. Like, I'm like a. I'm a pig. Like, I can get down with it.

[D]

Yeah, Drew was screaming that he was a pig bottom.

[A]

Yeah, I'm a pig bottom at stink night, I'll tell you that much.

[C]

I really can't believe y' all were having such a great time while I was dying.

[A]

I missed you.

[C]

I genuinely felt like I was dying. Like, I. There was a split moment where I was like, damn, should I just, like, take Uber myself to go get an IV drip right now? After the fifth time, I threw up within, like. Like, seven hours. But then I remembered that after giving me IV drip, they told me that the only way to actually sustain my body would be to get food in my system. And they gave me bananas and crackers. So I ordered myself a bundle of bananas and crackers and spent my Sunday waking up every two hours.

[A]

But you got a bundle of white people delivered to the house

[C]

every day. When you, Josie and Kai pull up,

[D]

you still got it.

[A]

Thank you.

[D]

They didn't take your spark.

[C]

I want to figure out how to do something in person to combat the thing we're talking about, though. But, like, I don't want to be involved. Does that make sense?

[A]

I mean, we always had the idea of, like, renting out a movie theater once a month and screening, like, a movie, like, an emergency intercom, like, event where we. We've always had the idea to rent out a big theater, make it free and then just play a movie that me and Enya want to see on the big screen and then make y' all come and hang out with us,

[C]

or not even hang out with us, but, like, literally give way so that, like, people who enjoy the same kind of media, because usually if somebody likes the podcast, they enjoy kind of the same music and the same movies and, like, things of that nature and.

[A]

Oh, by us, I meant, like, every. Everyone there, like the audience and everything.

[C]

But yeah, because that. Well, that's the thing is, like, I want to be able to, like, start doing community things that are removed from myself because I don't want it to be, like. I actually want it to be like a budding thing of its own, if that makes sense.

[A]

I saw this thing happening in LA that was really interesting. It was like this person, like, they passed that law where they, like, you're able to like, cook in your house, cook in your kitchen or whatever, and then like, make your house a restaurant for how many ever hours you want a day. And I saw someone doing that where it was like they made their house into a cafe, but they also, like, like, made it like a community hangout where you can, like, go and meet people and, like, they would, like, have like, live jazz playing and. Or they would, like, have like, certain themed days and all this shit. And I thought that was really cool.

[C]

Yeah, that's like, sweet.

[A]

Guys, we're gonna open our doors to y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

We're gonna leak our address. Just come over. Last night, we were trying to find a movie to watch for Josiah to fall asleep too, because he slept in my room. Oh, Me, Anya and Orion slept in my bed. And then Josiah pulled a car out and slept at the foot of the bed. But Josiah probably would have.

[C]

Genuinely. So lucky. Like, every time, like, my friends and us get together, I'm like, we are so lucky. I genuinely can't believe. I mean, we're. We're doing it.

[A]

We're literally. We're seriously all like, 30 is around

[C]

the corner and we're. We're seriously all sleeping in bed together still. Like, that makes me so happy. That was all I ever wanted, and I'm getting it.

[A]

All I ever wanted, all I ever needed was Orion told me I was

[C]

sleep talking to y'. All.

[A]

Yeah, you were sleep talking. You were. You.

[C]

She asked me about this conversation. I was like, I don't know what the you're talking about.

[A]

Yeah, it was like something about, like, I asked Orion if she had something on her phone and you were like, yeah, I have it on my phone.

[C]

Oh, yeah. It's because. Okay. Told me that y' all were like. When she came back, I didn't know Orion was actually going to come back this night to sleep over because we were all hanging out. And then she went back to her house to get stuff, but she lives, like, kind of far, so I was like, damn, dude, I wonder if she's gonna come back. And I've been on grandpa time, so I've been falling asleep before midnight. And I fell asleep in Drew's bed, because also, this was Monday night, so I was still feeling a little queasy, so I went to go lay down, and Orion said when she got back, she was like, oh, my God, look at Enya. She's sleeping like a Renaissance painting. And then I woke up. I was like, no, no, I'm not. No, I'm not. And then she kept saying. I was like, no, I'm not. And then you. You guys were, like, laughing and talking about it, and I think you asked if she has live on her phone. I was like, I have live on my phone.

[A]

Oh, that's what it was.

[C]

And then you guys are like, okay. And I was just like, well, I have live on my phone.

[A]

I love when someone's sleep talking, and then you catch them sleep talking, and then they act. They sleep talk that they're not sleep talking. Like, that's, like, your vibe. Every. But we were trying to find something to put on the TV for Josiah to watch, and I was like, oh, let's watch Erica's body. And everyone was like, what? And I was like, oh, like, Jennifer's body. Like, we should watch Jennifer's body. And they were like, wait, no, no, no, no.

[C]

Why.

[A]

Why did you say Erica's body? And it was because we were talking about Erica Kirk as Drew Ski and how that was. Or Drew Ski as Erica Kirk and how that legitimately ruined her life. Like, I can't see a picture of Erica Kirk without seeing. Without seeing that Drew Ski.

[C]

It's literally like a flashbang in Call of Duty. Like, when I see Erica Kir, it's like. And it's like Drew Ski's face.

[A]

And then her face, it's like, you know that one photo of Miley Cyrus, like, with the big blue eyes or whatever? Like. Like, that photo, like, is always just kind of like, behind my eyes at every waking moment, it's been replaced by Erica Kirk. Like, now when I close my eyes, I see Erica Kirk as. Or Drew Ski as Erica Kirk.

[D]

Did you see that? Did I Talk about this on the podcast, but there's evidence that the day. No, it was within 12 hours of Charlie dying in the. The morning after.

[A]

Oh, she went shopping.

[D]

She went to Aloe Yoga.

[C]

She put Lulu on her butt.

[D]

No, she bought like five grand worth of shoes.

[A]

She blew that fucking check at Lulu. It wasn't just like a pair of shorts. It was like she spent thousands of dollars at Lululemon.

[C]

Or at Aloe.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. At Aloe Sorrow.

[D]

Which is. That is so weird for that to be at 9am that's the first thing that you do.

[A]

You wake up and you go. I mean that's.

[C]

She's like, damn, okay, I'm single. Let me get this summer body right?

[D]

She said, I'm sing to her 32nd morning period.

[A]

Yeah. Met Gala. Wait, Met Gala? What else happened this week?

[C]

I don't know. I died half the week. Like I literally was dead half of this week. I was just.

[A]

Michael Jackson movie.

[C]

I haven't seen it and you guys said it was butt. And like that makes me really sad because I did want to see it. Like I wanted to see it because I know like, y' all like, listen, okay, sometimes it's like the trolls movie for adults. That's what Michael's movie is like. Michael Jackson movie is a moment for adults to go in and be like, duh, it's like our cocoa melon. It's like, that's what I wanted to be. But then y' all said it sucked and I was like, that sucks that I can't get highest and go watch

[A]

Coco Melon because the cocoa highest and watch the Michael Jackson movie. But you will be scared. Coleman Domingo's prosthetics is literally one of the most haunting things I've ever seen on the silver screen.

[D]

Like, it's one a doo doo head.

[A]

Yes. He calls a cancer patient kid a poopy doo doo head. Or he's like, you're. You're a poopy doo doo head. And it like I literally out loud, like busted out laughing. And it's supposed to be like a really sad, like sweet, sincere moment. It's like the third time Michael Jackson's visited cancer patients in hospital. Obviously propaganda. And you're supposed to be like tearing up and it's like, oh, like, look how sweet he is with the kids. Da da da. He didn't touch them. But then he calls him a doo doo head. And I screamed, laughed. And then there were two 13 year old boys behind me, which I was like, why the fuck are they in this movie, they don't know who Michael Jackson is. And then after I laughed out loud, they took that as like a sign for them to be like, oh, if they're laughing, like, we can like go crazy like we wanted to. And they proceeded to talk at this volume the entire rest of the movie. And then like, make like six, seven jokes and tongue. Tongue. So horror jokes. They were like, micha Jackson looks like Tong Tung Sohor. And I was like, yeah, he kind of does. He kinda does. But it was like insane to experience.

[D]

I haven't seen it, but my friend said, yeah, there's a scene where he says, shut up, doo doo head. And then it cuts and it's him playing video games with his monkey or something.

[A]

And the monkey is like the worst CGI I've ever seen.

[C]

And it's like the monkey being CGI is so crazy. Especially like when talking about a subject as like, derelict, like leaning as Michael Jackson to be like, okay, but the woke thing we're gonna do is not use a real monkey. We're not gonna use a real monkey. Like, that monkey on screen.

[A]

They. They literally like so many times, like, tried to use like Comedy Relief. And I was just like, dude, like, stop. Like, he was like having this very sincere conversation and you thought he was talking to a human being, but he was talking to his llama. And he was like, no. Yeah, it was very strange. He did get bodied at one point. Like, his like, brothers were like, we're gonna go like, slay tonight. We're gonna go like, hook up with a bunch of girls and it's gonna be hot and fun. And then Michael was like, why don't we play board games?

[C]

Why don't we play Twister together?

[A]

And they were like, dude, you need to get a fucking life, you freaky, creepy perv.

[C]

But I will say I like your impression of him.

[A]

My name is Michael Jackson. Wait, how does he sound, though?

[C]

My name is Mike. My.

[A]

Wait, I'm doing Carmen Winstead now. Hi, my name is Carmen Winstead. Wait, actually, we've never seen Carmen Winstead and Michael Jackson and Michael Jackson in the same room. And they kind of look the same.

[C]

They do. They have similar vibes.

[A]

Like, I'm sorry. I am so, so sorry. I know this is really heinous to say out loud because at the end of the day, he is a real living or was a real living. But I think like, the biggest conspiracy in on this planet is the fact that Michael Jackson was the most famous person on planet Earth while he looked like that. Like, that Like, I'm sorry, because it doesn't make sense.

[C]

It's because he was introduced to such a sexy young man. Like, he was a sexy, like, was he sexy to you by the dude? Yeah. On off the Wall era? He is so hot. He was the biggest person ever. Because he was in the eyes of like the humans for so long. I would go as far as to like, argue. I wonder how many like, influencer ass, like people are going to be revered on some like, extremely parasocial level the way people are with Michael Jackson. Just because, like Michael Jackson was in the limelight since he was like 4 years old. So then by the time he was a full adult, especially because his like, discog is so crazy. Like, it's so good. He's just. I think that's what makes him so mythical is like, even with all the like, juxtaposition of like the like fucked up shit of his past, like, whether it be family wise, like with his dad or. Or his own interpersonal issues, the fact that he was still producing that work and entertaining people and keeping his like, consumers satisfied like that. I'm like, I can't think of any other artist who's done that. Not only their whole existence, but in the afterlife. Maybe, like, what, the Beatles? But Paul McCartney is also here. The lizard one.

[A]

Oh, yeah. And he was like, did you know Paul McCartney is a lizard? And I was like, I literally got a boner instantly. Because I was like, wait, can we finally talk about conspiracies together? Like, is this what we're doing now? But no, I.

[C]

Star is alive, right?

[D]

Yeah, he's alive.

[C]

He didn't get turned into a lizard. Paul McCartney became a lizard.

[A]

That's a lizard, baby. That's a lizard, baby.

[C]

I can't believe I was eating a tuna from Subway until I was like, 23. Isn't that insane?

[D]

It's like mostly metal.

[A]

It's literally. It's mercury and plastic. I think.

[C]

Well, any behavioral issues I had, I think I should be like, like compensated. Like, yeah, it should be like, okay, like, you, we're gonna let you go. Because I'm sure the tuna was doing something to my brain.

[A]

It was really, I mean, Big tuna. Oh my God.

[C]

Big tuna, Texas.

[A]

Big tuna, Texas.

[C]

We watched Wild at Heart yesterday and it made me so happy. I loved that movie.

[A]

That movie was so good. I don't know, it's really cool to like watch movies and just like kind of take a mental note of what I'm gonna steal for my projects, period. You gotta be good at stealing Guys,

[C]

steal like an artist.

[A]

Steal like an artist. Wait, there was something. Oh, fashion is art.

[C]

More like fashion is fart.

[A]

Fashion is art. Yeah. No, that's like saying dick is.

[C]

Met gala that on the day of the Met gala.

[A]

Yeah, but it was a tweet. I didn't. I didn't come up with that. Oh, yeah, steal like an artist.

[C]

Why don't you do your scop? You don't have.

[A]

I don't have any. Well, I do, but I'm saving them for the live show.

[C]

Well, I think I. Did I say this on the last episode? Yeah, I did that. I think I'm. I snore because I'm a hunter gatherer.

[A]

I don't think we had that conversation.

[C]

Well, I think I snore because I come from a long line of like, like hunter gatherers and I snore in my sleep to keep the predators away from us. Yeah, I'm just. I'm keeping us safe. And that's why. That's also why you guys are always like, oh my God, she doesn't even start snoring until we are about to go to sleep. And it's like, yeah, cuz I don't have to activate it until the whole like crew is going to bed.

[A]

Kai, what do you want to say? You have anything to say?

[D]

I listened to Angel Baby on the way here by Jane Remover.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And I had. I felt euphoric.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, I did like fall asleep last night at like 12:38 KY, by the way.

[C]

That's why he's scratching his eyes so much. He got pink eye at stink night with his ass out. And it wasn't cuz. And it wasn't what the way you think it was. Nobody was willing to put their fingers in his ass. So he put his own finger in his ass and then he wiped his eye and that's why he has pink eye.

[D]

I have been eating blueberry frozen blueberries, which for.

[A]

So insert the screenshot shot.

[D]

No, don't answer this. Kai. Don't do that. Don't do it.

[A]

We have to.

[C]

Wait. What? Ew. Is it like, of your poop or something?

[D]

No, I was eating blueberries and my mouth was all. Was all blue.

[A]

Stop.

[D]

Don't show her that. I just don't want her to see that. Don't show any of stuff like that.

[A]

Dude, he had like all over his face.

[C]

It kind of literally looks like your tongue is losing.

[D]

Like it looks. I look sick. I look ghastly.

[A]

No, you look ghoulish.

[D]

I look.

[C]

Were you Just, like, sitting. Oh, my God, Kai, like, had you

[A]

not eaten all day?

[D]

Just blueberries.

[A]

Actually, the thing is, is, like, when I went over to Kai's house, like, when we went out together, I, like, saw his fingernails and they were really dirty. And I didn't say anything because I was like, oh, like, Kai's, like, really depressed right now. I feel bad, dad. Come to find out, it's because he eats frozen blueberries by the Paul. And, like, they get under his nails

[D]

and stain very clean. But they looked so gross.

[C]

It was really shocking, craziest, like, act to put on to cover the fact that you dig in your butt when you're alone.

[D]

I don't dig in.

[C]

Not blueberries under your nails, baby. That's doo doo berries.

[A]

That's dingleberries.

[D]

I don't have dingleberries. I have a very clean butt. I have a bidet.

[C]

Yeah, because you spray your ass to play with it.

[D]

It does feel good as. I'm not gonna lie.

[C]

I mean, yeah, I wish I could have a bidet, but my toilet actually has the water pressure of.

[A]

Oh, Luke Evans, my favorite guy look, by the way.

[C]

Luke Evans. Oh, yeah.

[A]

He's also doing my taxi. Rocky Horror Picture Show. No, that's Tom of Finland reference.

[C]

That's. I literally. Were you there when I said that? That. I literally said that to Rain? She was like, what is this? And I was like. I would put money on the fact that he's supposed to be, like, a Tom of Finland drawing.

[A]

I don't know. I haven't. Didn't hear him say that. But I'm. There's no way it's not Tom.

[C]

Oh, I. I thought they said that publicly. I was like, oh, my God, I literally need to start betting.

[A]

I'm sure they did.

[C]

I need to start gambling.

[A]

The. And Hunter Schaer's look I really love. And put, like, Alex's look was literally. Paloma's look was really.

[C]

Hunter Schaefer was giving, like. What was that, like, doll that was, like, literally haunted and being traveled. Annabelle, she, like, she reminded, like, she reminded me of pretty, like, angelic Annabelle. Where did that doll end up?

[A]

It's in my room. I'm not even kidding. I have the doll. Not like the doll, but, like, I have a version of the doll.

[C]

Wait, do you actually. Why?

[A]

Because I like it. It's pretty. I have sex with.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

I put a pocket post to the inside of it.

[C]

That's what I do to you.

[A]

I put it. I put a vagina on the back of Kai's head.

[D]

Sorry. I was writing down stuff to cut and then I heard another thing.

[C]

Oh, my gosh. Drew will never learn because in the video where Madeline calls you and tells you about her being pregnant, you're fucking driving and FaceTiming.

[A]

I know.

[C]

You literally are always driving and FaceTiming.

[A]

I KNOW.

[C]

Why FaceTime. I don't understand. My car drives itself, but I don't understand why FaceTime. Why not just a phone call?

[A]

I normally do just a phone call, but they FaceTime me.

[C]

Nah, but you be on FaceTime in the car.

[A]

Josiah FaceTimed me.

[C]

Yeah, Josiah. And you do more. So you guys FaceTime instead of call? I guess I FaceTime Rain and Orion instead of call. A call feels like it's like too official. What's happening?

[A]

Me and Kai FaceTime a lot now.

[C]

Oh, that's cute. You guys upgraded from regular call to FaceTime.

[D]

Yeah, well, we were doing Omegle for a while.

[A]

Omoggle.

[D]

Omoggle.

[A]

Yeah, insert my omoggle. Mogs. I have this. I put this on my close friends like last week.

[C]

And

[A]

this is the key to happiness, is to go on Omoggle and then tell the 12 year old boys to smile and then they start smiling and they feel better about themselves.

[C]

I think my one over consumption thing that I will say, like, I don't know how I'll ever end is like, I love clothes. Yeah, that's the one thing. But I just genuinely love you Love fashion. I love fashion.

[A]

Fashion is art to you.

[C]

Yeah, it. It quite literally is.

[A]

But Hudson Williams heard fashion is art and thought they said fashion is fart.

[C]

Leave that guy alone.

[A]

I agree. I watched his interview with Emma Chamberlain and it made me like him.

[C]

I'm just like, I mean, now it's with both men and women. It used to be like kind of majority a woman's game of like the public building up a woman and then being like, I hate you because of what you wore. I'm like, are y' all doing that to this boy just because he was feeling his oats and he wanted to play with me makeup? Like, whatever, whatever. When Shane Dawson was doing it, y'

[A]

all were fucking screaming and shouting. Looks like Shane Dawson did his makeup.

[C]

And listen, I would argue, and I've said this before on the podcast, I think only a few men can carry like a makeup look and actually, like, kill it. Like only very specific men. And that's okay. I think even I think actually I would argue men and women, everything in between. Like, I genuinely think certain people carry makeup better than others. And Hudson, we learned maybe on a bigger stage than necessary, but like, yeah, a dragged out wing is not for you. The dragged out wing is not for you. Maybe next time let's try for, like,

[A]

a rounder, like a bit of a overkill blush. I feel like that would look very fierce on him.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But then that gets blush blindness.

[C]

Overdoing the blush gets dangerous post 2020.

[A]

But like an intentional, like, overdo.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Of always intentional.

[A]

Always intentional. Everything is always intentional. I did feel bad for the makeup artist because I know the makeup artist, what they were doing. Like, they did it intentionally bad on purpose or not bad, but they just. It just did not land. And that's okay. It's okay. We live and we learn, and that's okay. And that's okay. And then Connor's arms were so big and juicy.

[C]

He looked so good. I. All I could think is like, damn, if I was Timothy Chalamet, I'd hang myself tonight.

[A]

I know. With his old scarf done.

[C]

With his little red scarf that he wore. Wait, was that to the man or

[A]

for the movie blue or the Nyx blue Birkin bag he bought Kylie Jinder.

[C]

Kylie gender. Well, should we do some media?

[A]

Yeah, let me see if I got anything I really like.

[C]

In a room full of people, I look for Drew.

[A]

I don't remember the name of this song. I've been listening to Tulsa Jesus Freak, which actually, ironically, Hudson mentioned in his Emma Chamberlain interview. And I was like, wow, we are connected. We should maybe find each other and fall in love. Everything I've Ever Wanted by Tiffany Day. I think that's a good song and music, baby, by Jane. Review remover review by Jane Jane.

[C]

Mine are

[A]

make sure kycam is showing when you laugh, by the way.

[D]

Oh, really? Okay, I'll add that. All right.

[A]

I mean, this wasn't a funny episode,

[D]

so this is a serious episode.

[C]

Ain't shit to laugh about. That's why.

[D]

But that's the thing. We're all dimensional people and we have different sides to us. We're not just like clowns.

[A]

So actually, I literally am just the clown.

[D]

Yes, I am too. Actually, I didn't really mean it when I said it.

[A]

Kai, look at this screenshot I just texted you of Heidi Klum doing her interview. Her content texts are going the wrong way. Like, this is in the video.

[C]

Also, Cara Delevingne, I feel like, was trying so hard not to cry, laughing like both her and Ashley. What? Whatever her name is, like, oh, that was so funny. My media of the week is Khalilah has an album coming out.

[D]

Oh, I saw this.

[C]

So I've been listening to the two singles on that. Rain has a song that is out right now called Infatuation, which I love so much. The. I think the music video is also out. Have you seen the music video yet?

[A]

No, I just seen the clip she posted today.

[C]

Oh, I'm going to show you one of the clips she sent me because I now have like it on my phone. I'm so excited about it. It's such a good song, Infatuation. And that's kind of it for media, honestly. Yeah.

[D]

Consent to do media.

[A]

Consent granted.

[D]

Quiet Light. Oh, she's a really good artist. She just dropped an album and it's really good.

[A]

Kai has put me on and we were talking about this, like, Kai has discovered every single, like, underground, like, pop star right now. Kai discovered like, five years ago. I'm not even kidding. Like, he. He is literally everyone that's having their moment right now. Kai knew about five years ago. So tap the in to Quiet Light. And it's. It's. Kai put me on and it's actually like a perfect album. It's.

[D]

It's incredible.

[A]

So good.

[C]

I'll listen. I'll be the judge of that.

[A]

Okay, well, I'm gonna go eat my wingstop in Dialogue cafe burrito.

[C]

Well, I'm gonna go play in my butt. This is an I heart podcast.

[A]

Guaranteed human.