Finally another straight guy w/ Dylan Redford and Harrison Fishman

Summary

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Emergency Intercom – "Finally another straight guy"

Podcast: Emergency Intercom (iHeartPodcasts)
Date: March 20, 2026
Guests: Dylan Redford & Harrison Fishman (creators of HBO's "Neighbors")
Hosts: Enya Umanzor, Drew Phillips, and co-host
Theme: Comedy, behind-the-scenes look at HBO’s "Neighbors," the psychology of neighbor disputes, personal stories, and cultural reflections.

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Episode Overview

This episode of Emergency Intercom centers on a lively, comedic, and insightful conversation with Dylan Redford and Harrison Fishman—creators of HBO’s documentary series, "Neighbors." Hosts Enya, Drew, and their co-host delve into what makes "Neighbors" unique, its behind-the-scenes stories, neighborly feuds (both on and off-camera), the anxieties and humanity behind disputes, and the power of capturing real life on film. The conversation is peppered with personal anecdotes, reflections on American loneliness, processing conflict, Florida stories, filmmaking journeys, and lots of laughs.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Meeting the Guests & Introducing "Neighbors"

• [02:41] The hosts welcome Dylan and Harrison, addressing their rarity as "straight guys" on the show in typical playful tone.
  • “You're probably like, ‘who are these two white guys?’ …I’m assuming y’all are straight?” – Unidentified Female Host [03:04]
  • “Assumed. You're correct.” – Harrison [03:10]
• Topic: The hosts praise "Neighbors," describing it as “Internet-pilled,” fast-paced, "so fucking cool," and discuss their experience “savoring" the last episode.

Inside "Neighbors" – Filming & Subjects

• [04:55] The hosts discuss their heavy investment in the show and how it captures real people, not “characters.”
  • “Sometimes we accidentally called them characters and we’re like, no—they’re real.” – Harrison [05:40]
• [06:02] Discussion about an episode featuring a hot tub in the living room, the house’s vibe, and the exhaustive house tours undertaken by the crew.
  • “The first thing we did was a three-hour house tour… Everything impeccably designed.” – Dylan [06:24]
• [08:05] Casting stories: Producer Harley Shaw found subjects using small claims court records, Facebook groups (like "We Don’t Like Jessica"), and even TikTok.
  • “Neighborhood Facebook groups…there was like a ‘We Don’t Like Jessica’ Facebook group.” – Dylan [09:05]
• [09:47] The absurdity and authenticity of neighbor conflicts—dog poop tales, custom yard signs, and the "Florida neighbor energy."
  • “I did pull out, I was like, I am from Florida. Please do not leave this on my lawn.” – Enya [12:32]

The Hunt for Real Stories & Challenges

• [13:03] The Judge Judy infiltration attempt—sending their producer to sneak into tapings (it didn’t work).
  • “Apparently you can't do that. You cannot do that. So…lost. So he got turned around.” – Dylan [13:13]
• [15:48] Some stories almost fizzled out—like Steven and Joanne’s—until patience paid off, yielding some of their best material.
  • “We just hung in there…and suddenly it went from the story that felt the least developed to one of our strongest.” – Dylan [16:06]
• [18:19] Creative choices: Pairing two stories per episode was more about contrast and utility than theme—driven by what footage was strongest and which had "on-camera confrontation."

Filmmaking in Conflict Zones

• [20:35] "Did you ever feel unsafe?" The answer: Most unsafe with guns shown on camera, more so than with verbal threats—even those as wild as being threatened with future harm to as-yet-unborn children.
  • “He threatened to kill y’all's future children…He did. He will.” – Dylan & Harrison [20:57]
  • “Guns are just so scary…because so many situations…are fully just accidents.” – Harrison [21:35] / Dylan [21:58]
• [22:30] Each subject was filmed for an average of three weeks, alternating sides to maintain neutrality and trust.
• [23:58] Many story leads fizzled or subjects bailed—sometimes “side quests” just don’t pan out.

The Origin Story: Miami, Borscht Corp, and Friendship

• [25:39] Dylan and Harrison met through Borscht Corp, a Miami-based film collective; Dylan describes the freedom and creativity they found there.
  • “There’s just this freedom…you can kind of do whatever you want…” – Dylan [30:41]
• Major Florida influence; filming in diverse locations, including the nudist capital of the world for the season finale.

American Loneliness, Neighbor Fights, and Pandemic Aftermath

• [56:53] The hosts and guests reflect on the deeper themes behind neighbor disputes—loneliness, a post-COVID world, American “singularity,” and constant anticipation of hostility online and in person.
  • “The show paints a portrait of America that…people are very lonely…COVID kind of exacerbated [that].” – Harrison [56:53]
  • “This is your safe space. Everywhere else outside of this is a mental hellscape.” – Enya [58:11]
• The group discusses the cyclical escalation of small conflicts in the absence of community and personal space, the role of therapy, boundaries, and the social dynamics driving these disputes.

Ethical Dilemmas & Neutral Storytelling

• [59:33] The balance of telling both sides fairly to keep respondents’ trust—no “villains,” just humans acting out under pressure.
  • “We really drove home, and it was true…we are really here to listen.” – Dylan [60:42]
  • “Do we really give a [damn] that much about your patch of grass? No, we care about you.” – Harrison [60:46]

On Mediation, Resolution, and Human Connection

• [68:04] Mediation is the “last step before no return;” if mediation fails, court means the relationship is irrevocably damaged.
  • “The number one way…a neighbor dispute will never get resolved is if you go to court with your neighbor.” – Mediator, as relayed by Dylan [68:04]
• [66:03] The absurdity of people moving "into the middle of nowhere to avoid neighbors and ending up in neighbor disputes anyway."
• The team emphasizes the importance of filming real endings: “Not resolved? Then it’s not going to be resolved on TV, either.”

Making & Funding the Series

• [45:29] The "Neighbors" pilot was self-funded ($30k from Brain Dead funding shorts), initially experimenting in LA, then moved to Florida when better stories emerged.
• [46:19] Connection with Josh Safdie led to the show's production.

Life After S1, Inspirations, & Media Recs

• [73:12] Announcement: Season 2 is greenlit.
  • “So we are going to be doing another season. We're really excited.” – Harrison [73:12]
• The hosts reflect on anthology series, “binge vs. savor” TV habits, and the challenge/freedom of non-serialized documentary storytelling.
  • “If I have the option to binge something, I'm more likely to leave it dead.” – Enya [74:24]
• The rapid pacing and varied formats were by design: “We just are so afraid to make anyone bored. So we're just, like, slamming it full of shit.” – Harrison [75:24]
• [76:23] Praise for the show’s engagement: “You literally can't...miss a single second.”
• Jackass as Inspiration: “Probably the most inspiring thing exactly…ever.” – Harrison [77:02]
• Music Recs:
  • Harrison: Harry Nilsson’s “Coconut,” Muppets covers [78:43+]
  • Dylan: Early PinkPantheress, “loving drum and bass” [80:40]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Realness in Conflict:
  “Because you can go look it up, it’s real. It says, like, oh, these people are real, you know…they’re not just making this stuff up.” – Dylan [15:29]

• On Building Trust:
  “We wouldn’t do the show if it was just one-sided…remind them that, that like, we are really here to listen.” – Dylan [60:42]

• On American Loneliness:
  “People are very lonely…COVID kind of exasperated…I feel like people are just in a headspace where they're anticipating negativity.” – Harrison & Enya [56:53+]

• On Absurd Threats:
  “I know. That’s why we are not having children.” – Dylan (on being threatened with future harm by a subject) [21:01]

• On Show Structure:
  “We just are so afraid to make anyone bored. So we're just, like, slamming it full of shit.” – Harrison [75:24]

• On Series Format:
  “Everyone said to us … no one cares about Anthology, everyone wants a through line. ... But I do think that it’s nice to have something where…things are sort of self contained a little bit to mix it up.” – Dylan [74:49]

• On Jackass as Inspiration:
  “Love Jackass. Probably the most inspiring thing exactly, like, ever.” – Harrison [77:02]
  “No one has ever brought that up.” – Dylan [76:53]

• On Humanizing the Disputes:
  “There’s just such this like infatuation with one another that like it's never admitted... it's just such a clear, like, you both, both are like so similar and you hate it.” – Enya [65:29, 55:35]

• Announcement:
  “We are going to be doing another season. We're really excited.” – Harrison [73:12]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:41] – Guest introductions & the straight guy joke
• [03:35] – Praise for "Neighbors," savoring the last episode
• [06:24] – Filming wild house tours and house impressions
• [08:05-09:47] – How casting and finding stories really works
• [12:32] – Custom yard signs, "dog shitters," and Florida energy
• [15:48] – Stories nearly abandoned and their unexpected breakthroughs
• [16:56] – The complexity of choosing episode pairings
• [20:35] – Safety risks in filming, gun dangers, and real threats
• [23:58] – Projects that fizzled and what makes a story viable
• [25:39] – The Miami connection, Borscht Corp, and filmmaking roots
• [56:53, 58:11] – Reflections on American individualism, loneliness, and post-pandemic psychology
• [66:03] – The futility of trying to escape neighbor disputes
• [73:12] – Season 2 announcement
• [77:02] – Jackass as the spiritual predecessor/inspiration
• [78:43+] – Music/media recommendations (Harry Nilsson, PinkPantheress, the Muppets)

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Tone & Language

The tone is irreverent, open, and very candid—full of inside jokes, storytelling banter, meta-reflections, and sharp self-awareness. The pod keeps the language casual, with moments of emotional depth, especially about the toll and resonance of community and isolation. There is a constant balance of playful mockery, honest reflection, and mutual respect among all speakers.

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Media & Show Recommendations

• Music: Harry Nilsson’s “Coconut”, PinkPantheress ("early on," courtesy of Dylan’s sister), old Muppets covers
• Television/Film: Jackass (“no one’s ever brought that up”) served as a major structural inspiration
• Shoutout: HBO's "Neighbors," Muppets films

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Conclusion

This episode offers an engaging inside look at the making of "Neighbors," the realities and absurdities of modern neighbor conflict, and the universal themes of loneliness, community, and storytelling. The guests and hosts unearth why we’re drawn to these stories, how to fairly represent all sides, and what’s next for both the creators and the series. With the confirmation of Season 2, listeners are left with a sense of excitement and appreciation for documentaries that find both the humor and the pathos in real life.

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Transcript

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[Enya]

Hello. Welcome back to this episode of Emergency Intercom. And I'm back to saying it incorrectly. My name is Enya. We are here with Drew and two awesome guests. I'm gonna let y' all say your own names because, you know.

[Dylan Redford]

Sure. I'm Dylan Redford.

[Harrison Fishman]

I'm Harrison Fishman.

[Enya]

And you're probably like, who are these two white guys? Because, I mean, Drew is pointing out

[Unidentified Female Host]

that I'm, like, normally the only straight one on the show. I'm assuming y' all are straight.

[Harrison Fishman]

Assumed. You're correct.

[Enya]

Assumed.

[Dylan Redford]

Correct.

[Unidentified Female Host]

So I feel safe. I feel safe, like, with straight guys.

[Enya]

Yeah. It's his first time having, like, straight guys to be around.

[Dylan Redford]

Okay, great.

[Harrison Fishman]

Thanks.

[Unidentified Female Host]

That's awesome.

[Dylan Redford]

Make you feel nice and comfortable.

[Enya]

But these two awesome are on here because they are the. I. I really. We were talking about in the car. I'm, like, co creators, creators, directors.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah. How would you explain it of Neighbors on hbo?

[Enya]

Neighbors on hbo, which we've talked about for a few episodes. And, like, I haven't seen the last episode, but it is genuine. I haven't seen it out of, like, savoring, like, I'm like, ooh, that's going to be my candy when I, like, need something good to put on.

[Harrison Fishman]

That's the best compliment.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, totally.

[Harrison Fishman]

That's what you want from a TV show. You want to have that. You want to savor them.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I always find myself, like, leaving last episode of a show and never finishing it because I'm like, I don't want this to end, and I'm scared I'm going to. I fear I'm actually going to do that with Neighbors. Very major.

[Dylan Redford]

We won't take offense to that. Totally understandable.

[Harrison Fishman]

You got to watch the last one, though.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Should I?

[Harrison Fishman]

You should. I think it's the best. We were.

[Enya]

We were going to watch it before coming here, but that was, like, one that would set us both off on, like, an obnoxious tangent. Honing in on one episode.

[Harrison Fishman]

Right.

[Enya]

That's smart, because literally I watched episode 4 and 5 back to back with my friend, and I was cracking up and just like. I mean, it's just amazing, like, what you guys have done. It's so funny. It's like, yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

How is it to watch back to back?

[Unidentified Female Host]

Oh, I have, like, a whole thing. So I, like, watched the first episode, and, like, I was already, like, aware of, like, y' all swag and y' all style Cause like, y' all work with Conroe Malley?

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Okay. So I'm like, kind of aware of like visually what to expect and like editing, like what to expect. And like at the end of the first episode, I was like, whoa, this is like, this is really major. And it's very quick and it's very like, I don't know, like this. I don't want this to sound like a dig, but it's very like Internet pilled in a way and it's very fast. And then I. It set me up for the second episode where I was like, I knew what to expect. And then by the end of the second episode, I was like, holy, this is so fucking cool. And like also like the characters, I don't know what they're called. Them, the people in the second episode.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah, people. I think people are good.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

Sometimes we like, you know, accidentally called them characters and we're like, right now they're real.

[Dylan Redford]

They're real details.

[Unidentified Female Host]

So funny. Like, I want to know more about them. Like the dude. Like were they like doomsday preppers?

[Dylan Redford]

Like what was for the first episode? Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Enya]

We were living on the desert.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah, yeah. I want to know more about them.

[Enya]

You're thinking of you and your episode. We famously were like the episode with the gay couple, like the dude who's like really fun front facing. We were like, holy, Drew is in this show.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah. And I also like, I want to know what their house smelled like.

[Harrison Fishman]

Oh yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Cuz there's a literal hot tub inside their home. Like what was that like?

[Dylan Redford]

Well, it was a bit humid. Okay, it was a bit humid. But I will say that their house was impeccably clean. And like it smelled amazing. Tons of candles, so all kinds of different floral smells. And they were like. I mean, the first thing we did was like a three hour house tour when we first got there and just took us to every room. Everything impeccably designed photo, every photo.

[Harrison Fishman]

We used to do that when we went into these people's homes. Every. Like in the beginning when we were making the show, like, let's do a house tour. It'd be like a whole fucking eight hours of like showing every photo, every. Oh, what's in that drawer. They like show us their socks. And then we were like, we like barely used any of it.

[Dylan Redford]

We didn't use any of it. It was kind of like our instinct was like, well, this is kind of like MTV gribs a little, you know, like you get to know someone through their stuff.

[Harrison Fishman]

You know?

[Dylan Redford]

And is it more for us than anything else, you know?

[Harrison Fishman]

Yes.

[Unidentified Female Host]

And it worked for me. It was so cool.

[Enya]

I mean, Drew infamously, is like, don't let me in your house, because I'm gonna go through your drawers.

[Unidentified Female Host]

We'll go through your medicine.

[Harrison Fishman]

I would love to come with us.

[Dylan Redford]

Dude, come on over.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Let me come.

[Harrison Fishman]

It is honest. Like, it's such a great excuse when you have a camera. It's like the greatest excuse ever.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Can I.

[Harrison Fishman]

You just can ask anything. You can pick up anything.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah.

[Dylan Redford]

There's like, one part at one point with our. The. The last episode that comes out. Like, we at one point were just, like, in his closet, just going through his, like, archive and papers, and we were just looking at each other. Like, how. How are we allowed. Like, he's just chill with us doing it, you know? Cause, like, we just earn trust and hang out with him long enough, and then we end up, like, going through. We, like, found this, like, birth, you know, birth record and stuff like that. It's just like, this is crazy.

[Enya]

How did you guys find the people you ended up honing in on?

[Harrison Fishman]

Well, we have our. My girlfriend. Her name is Harley Shaw. She's a casting director, and she worked with a team of a bunch of people. And basically they went through small claims court records. How they find people on Judge Judy, local newspapers, TikTok, obviously. I mean, how else. How else do they find.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, Facebook groups. Big time. Like, neighborhood Facebook groups, where people would be like, you know, I hate, like, you know, Ridgewood Karens or something like that. And then we, you know, dive into that. And yeah, you know, there was like a. Yeah, like, kind of hateful Facebook groups. Were definitely.

[Harrison Fishman]

Dude. Their Facebook group. And then we were trying to do a lot of stuff with HOAs, like all those communities, and they all have their own, like, Facebook group. And they're always fighting.

[Dylan Redford]

There's like, Facebook groups that are like, we don't like Jessica Facebook group. You know, fire need to kind of

[Enya]

need to hang out with Jessica. Like, I think me and Jessica would get along.

[Dylan Redford]

That's always the first one is, we gotta talk to Jessica. Gotta get Jessica on the show.

[Harrison Fishman]

You know what's funny too is, like, with like, all these. The ways you find these stories is like, when you. The best ones like that, you're like, it's like a whole Facebook group of, like, someone. Everyone's talking about Jessica. And then, like, you kind of have to dig deeper and be like, what's the story here? Why is everyone upset? And then, like, with the small claim stuff, it's crazy. Cause it's like you. It's two people suing each other in small claims court. They're not always neighbors, but with that, you. The paperwork is like. You see their addresses?

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah.

[Dylan Redford]

That's how you know.

[Harrison Fishman]

That's how you know you can look up the addresses. You're like, oh, they're neighbors. And they're arguing about, like, it's, like, shitty handwriting. Like, they pissed on my lawn and that, you know, it's just amazing.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Well, we famously. Like, We've talked about it extensively on our podcast. We have infamous dog shitters on our lawn. So we've been putting a lot of very choice words on these big signs in our front yard. We being.

[Enya]

I.

[Unidentified Female Host]

It's in you.

[Enya]

It started because on a really hot day, I was letting the poop slide for a second because we were new to the neighborhood, and I'm new to, like, nice neighborhoods. My first, like, cute neighborhood I've ever lived in my whole life. But I guess you guys, a lot of your people are based in Florida, which is hella funny, because I'm from Florida.

[Harrison Fishman]

Oh.

[Enya]

And I feel like that just came out of me.

[Unidentified Female Host]

And, like, the Florida came out.

[Enya]

Yeah. I got on Amazon, and I ordered signs to put in the yard. Custom ones. And then one day, I got home, and it was so much. And it was so hot. It was all I could smell. I just, like, stormed inside, wrote this huge poster, and, like, went outside with

[Harrison Fishman]

the mal and was like, oh, my gosh. That's amazing. Good for you.

[Unidentified Female Host]

It was. It was very. It worked. And I was.

[Dylan Redford]

Signs work.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Exactly.

[Enya]

They came.

[Dylan Redford]

Signs work.

[Harrison Fishman]

Wait, so explain this real quick. Your neighbor's dog was shitting on your lawn.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yes. Extensively.

[Enya]

So much.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Like, all day long.

[Enya]

And I'm like, you can ask Drew. I'm really not one to, like, fuss over things, but I was like, this is crazy, because you would park, and then when you go to walk into our house, you have to be like, ooh, ooh, oops, oops.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Dodging piles of shit.

[Enya]

Dodging shit. And it just smelt so bad. And I wouldn't have said anything if it wasn't huge. I have a picture somewhere.

[Dylan Redford]

Literally. Like, let's look at the.

[Enya]

It's six shits lined up, like, back to back to back to back. And that's what I was like, this feels like.

[Unidentified Female Host]

So I. We have ideas. We have, like, a ring camera, but it's always perfectly out of ring cameras.

[Dylan Redford]

Isn't that interesting?

[Unidentified Female Host]

It's, like, calculated almost.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

But I was leaving that. Interesting. Yeah. I was leaving the house the other day and, like, there's two kids walking up this sidewalk with, like, their. I'm assuming, grandma. And, like, one of. I'm leaving the front door, and one of the kids goes, that's the guy that doesn't, like, dog poop in his yard. And then the grandma was like, no, honey, that's probably someone cleaning their house. Like, it's not him. And then I was like, holy. Like, I got.

[Enya]

No. There's. There's.

[Unidentified Female Host]

There's levels to get put up.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah.

[Enya]

Because the first one, I don't think I. I left no curse words or anything. It was just. It was more like neurotic than it was a thread.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Enya]

And then in the second one, I did pull out, I was like, I am from Florida. Please do not, like, leave this on my lawn.

[Harrison Fishman]

Like, I did pull that out and

[Enya]

there hasn't been shit on the lawn.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Nope. No more shit.

[Harrison Fishman]

You're bringing that Florida neighbor energy to la.

[Enya]

That's cool.

[Harrison Fishman]

It's good.

[Dylan Redford]

Use a little bit of that. Yeah, that's exciting.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah. But. Okay, so you were talking, like, a little bit about small claims court. So which one of y' all were y' all both trying to sneak into Judge Judy in film? Or was that.

[Dylan Redford]

Actually.

[Harrison Fishman]

Was our producer Andy, who did that?

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yes, that one. And what's the tea with that? Like, what happened? What transpired? Did he get in trouble?

[Dylan Redford]

Like, yeah, I mean, he. We basically sent him on a mission. We were, like, pulling straws, like, okay, who's gonna try to just rogue go into Judge Judy? And he got the gig and he just like. I mean, we knew where it was filming and we knew that they took audience members. I think maybe we could have done a little bit more preparation on trying to get him in, but we thought, you know, I don't know, they probably take walk ons. I don't know. And so we just sent him in like a soldier to just walk up into Judge Judy. And apparently you can't do that. You cannot do that. So studio lost. So he got turned around.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Damn.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah, it was. We were. Yeah, we really wanted to that one up, honestly. But I don't think there was ever a world I.

[Enya]

From a consumer standpoint, I will say, I like the disassociation it creates. Having it be like, y' all didn't. Y' all not being able to go in because it's such a stylized way that y' all shoot the show. I feel like I don't Know, it feels so disorienting in almost like an adaptation way of like. Wait, what? Like, yeah, was this guy actually, like, was he on? Because why wouldn't they film him? Like, when I was watching at least, I was just like, what? And then Drew, I remember he. He immediately ran to go look for the episode. He was like, it's actually on there.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Have y' all seen it? Oh, yeah. She got destroyed in a way that, like, destroyed. Literally, like, hurt my feelings. I was like, holy shit. I did not know she went that hard. And maybe that was the hardest she ever went.

[Enya]

Well, that was. That's the whole gag about Judge Judy is she was like the Joan Rivers of, like, small claim score, I guess. Yeah, right?

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Enya]

She's just like, og. Just like someone. Stern ass aunt.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yes.

[Enya]

That's just what she feels like. I love her. I grew up watching the Fuck out of Judge Judy by now. I loved it, dude.

[Harrison Fishman]

I loved Judge Judy so much. I was obsessed with her.

[Enya]

She felt like a great moral compass. I was like, this woman knows things that, like, I need to understand and I will be listening.

[Dylan Redford]

And, like, generally speaking, I kind of agree with her for the most part. Like, I'm kind of like, you do have some sort of. You're tapped into some human experience that's, like. Has some truth to it that, like, you're kind of right all the time. Yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah.

[Dylan Redford]

It's kind of rare to find Ian. I don't know.

[Harrison Fishman]

And it's nice, like, that everyone on there is fucking real.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

That was crazy to us because we were like, you know, you always are like, well, is it a real situation? But it is.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah. And I think, weirdly, not having it in our show, and then people found it made our show, like, just. Cause I think some people sometimes wonder, like, how much of this is staged and are these people fake? It's too crazy. But, like, because you can go look it up, it's real. It says, like, oh, these people are real. You know, like, they're not just making this stuff up.

[Enya]

Were there any stories you guys were following along and maybe weren't panning out in a way that felt exciting enough to keep chasing it? And then it either died off or suddenly it flipped. And you guys were just like, holy shit. To think we almost abandoned this one.

[Harrison Fishman]

Such a good question.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, we said the Steven and Joanne story. We hit some, like, hiccups there around just, like, scheduling and the participants, like, being able to be available and not. And we weren't really able to crack it open in the way we felt like we were getting everything that we wanted or that we were hitting the depth of that story. And then we just hung in there with them and finally able to. We were able to do another, like, you know, another week with them. And that one just, like, cracked the whole story open in a way where, you know, I think they're comfortable with us, you know, and we were able to get them, you know, the Steve and Joanne conversation at the end of the bar, we were able to film. And suddenly it went from, like, the story that felt the least developed to one of our strongest ones.

[Enya]

Yeah, I was going to say that that was the one that I. I walked away, I think, with the most questions, like, I. That was one where I was like, damn. Because to me, there is something so much more intriguing. Of course, all of these people, I think whether they admitted or not, I don't know these people, but from a viewership, I'm like, whether you accept it or not, there is some sort of connection you've made just even living within close quarters, especially a lot of those plots of land. What they're fighting over is, like, an inch of land. It's literally, they're that close up on each other. So I liked that one so much because it was one that I was like, okay, there. Because there were the two women who.

[Harrison Fishman]

In Florida.

[Enya]

In Florida, who, like, I was like, okay, they obviously had some sort of friendship because they were at each other's, like, weddings and these personal things. But I really like that one because I was like, there's just something here I want so badly to, like, I would do anything to be in a bar, I guess maybe more so with Joanna than Steven, but, like, oh, my God, I would love to just, like, sit there and ask. Cause I don't know. That story was so, so odd. Also, you guys do a really good job of pairing up. Each episode feels like they parallel in terms of the dynamic and why the dynamic is functioning between these two people.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Was there any reason why you put, like, two stories in each episode? Like, I'm curious, like, what the creative choice was for that, or was it.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah, yeah, we. I mean, with. I think very quickly, I think a couple things we were playing at one point with the idea, we were like, oh, should they be very similar? You know, like. Or, like, should they have themes or, like, should they be based in place? And I think we just got more excited about contrast than, like, similarities in pairing them. And also, it's like, it's so Hard to make the show and find really good stories. And so I think having a sort of, like, predetermined idea for what the episode should be just, like, just wasn't possible, you know, like, we just found the best stories, and then we kind of just like, almost like they were like Pokemon cards where we were just, like, pairing them and, like, try. We tried, like, every single pairing out, which was psychotic, you know what I mean? And we watched all them, and we were like. I think a big thing, too, is, like, we tried to pair the ones because not all of them have, like, an on camera confrontation. So that was very important to us is, like, trying to at least have some on camera confrontation or some, you know, heat. Yeah, because we love the heat, you know?

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[Enya]

Oh, my God.

[Unidentified Female Host]

The fucking.

[Enya]

I don't think Drew's seen this episode. So, like, I don't know if you want to cover your ears or something, but the episode with the. The dude who's doing the mediation and is also sold that woman the gun.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Oh, for sure.

[Enya]

Okay.

[Harrison Fishman]

You saw.

[Enya]

Also cool. Covering your ears.

[Dylan Redford]

Just lying.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's the visual that was like, how

[Enya]

many moments during filming did something like that unravel where y' all were just kind of like, what are the odds?

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah. I mean, that's like, the magic of the show is, like, these things when we kind of. We'd enter into these worlds, and then suddenly there would be these, like. We have what felt like coincidences that were just, like, so insane and, like, so overwhelming. We're just like. Well, we always kind of took it as a sign that this is the right story to follow. And there are these, like, weird overlaps where, like, how can this be? But, like, I don't know. I mean, that's kind of. I felt like it was fun for us to feel like we go into these worlds, and then some of those people start, like, recycling. They start coming up in different places that you wouldn't have expected.

[Harrison Fishman]

Right.

[Dylan Redford]

You know, I mean, one of.

[Unidentified Female Host]

So I have one question, and then I'll talk about that later, but did y' all ever, like, actually feel unsafe at any points, like, while filming? Like, I know. I don't. I don't remember his name, but, like, he threatened to kill Yalls future children. Yeah, Johnny. Which is crazy. Like, was that where y'. All.

[Harrison Fishman]

He did.

[Dylan Redford]

He did.

[Harrison Fishman]

He will.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I know.

[Dylan Redford]

That's why we are not having children.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

It's hard. Yeah. I just don't want to, because I don't know what's happening.

[Dylan Redford]

He will Kill them.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah. It is just like also like the most.

[Harrison Fishman]

It's just such a crazy threat. It's so deep.

[Dylan Redford]

It's so deep.

[Harrison Fishman]

It's like in the future.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, in the future.

[Harrison Fishman]

I'm gonna. First of all I'm gonna go to jail, right?

[Dylan Redford]

First of all I'm going to jail. I'm gonna do something terrible. Go to jail.

[Harrison Fishman]

I felt like the most unsafe, I think we felt was when anytime anyone brought out a gun just to show us that they have a gun, she

[Dylan Redford]

was like wielding, whipping that thing around.

[Harrison Fishman]

And that was scarier randomly than like Johnny threatening us. Cause it like I feel like guns are just so scary in that like no one. You know, it's like there's so many situations you read about that people are also unintentionally get shot or like a kid finds a gun and shoots somebody else.

[Enya]

You know, it's kind of unreal. How many gun related deaths are fully just accidents.

[Dylan Redford]

Totally, totally.

[Harrison Fishman]

That's all.

[Unidentified Female Host]

That's all I could think. Well, I was like thinking for yalls safety the whole time. I was like, holy shit. Like this woman does not know basic gun safety. Or it doesn't seem like it. But she didn't have her finger on the trigger.

[Dylan Redford]

She did know not to do that.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah.

[Dylan Redford]

I was watching that finger tightly.

[Harrison Fishman]

I know she was like holding it like this.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Can y' all do it please?

[Enya]

Who knows how to do?

[Dylan Redford]

Anyone know anything about guns? No.

[Enya]

Dude, that's so amazing.

[Unidentified Female Host]

And how long did y' all film with like each set?

[Harrison Fishman]

Like about I'd say average three weeks.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, average was three weeks. Yeah. Sometimes it was shorter, but other times, yeah, we were. Because we have to film, you know, because we're filming on both sides and we usually don't try to film with the same side on the same day just to kind of give it space. Because the thing is, is they're also the other. You know, both the neighbors are watching us go into the other neighbor's house constantly. And I think that just like it feels sort of sometimes a little strange to hit both houses in the same day, especially early on. Like it's kind of nice to just give each other their side and give their time, but that just means we have to stay there for a while. Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah. And when did y' all start filming like the show? Because I saw on like a sign in the front yard that it said 2023 or 2024. And I was like, wow, y' all have been filming for a minute.

[Dylan Redford]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

We filmed the pilot which is now that one with the women in Florida and the guy that threatened us. That was actually the episode we filmed that we sold the show with.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Okay, cool.

[Harrison Fishman]

So we filmed. That was our first time ever making anything like this. Yeah, yeah. But that we made in 2021. 2022. Yeah, yeah. And then. And then we started. We sold the show in 2024. Right. And then we. We shot from 2024 to 2026.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, we were still shooting into 2026.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Enya]

I mean, that makes sense when you guys were saying like that three week.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Enya]

I'm like, damn, that. That's a lot. Especially if you take it to the fact that I'm sure y' all have lives that you have to tend to

[Harrison Fishman]

immediately once you do this show.

[Dylan Redford]

For dear life. Yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

Chasing the dragon.

[Dylan Redford]

Right.

[Harrison Fishman]

You know, it's funny you say that like that. We shot a lot of. There's a bug trying to go in my mouth. We shot a lot of. We started shooting a bunch of stories that never worked. Yeah, yeah. And so that was also. Those are side quests that, like, it's sort of a. It's. You invest a lot of time into something, but then it doesn't pan out for that subject just bails. Or they're like, I don't want to do this anymore, or the story is boring or like, you know, so we did a lot of that.

[Dylan Redford]

We had, like, early on, I mean, we were still trying to figure out, like, this shape of the show. Like, there was one. And I don't. It was kind of like out in the desert where, like, it was this mysterious sound that like a neighbor was playing. And it was like, kind of freaking

[Enya]

everyone out types of shit. Our neighbors are out there.

[Dylan Redford]

It was like a woman screaming or something.

[Harrison Fishman]

It was about you guys.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah, yeah, sorry.

[Enya]

A woman screaming.

[Dylan Redford]

It was a woman screaming. And no one could figure out really where it was coming from. And so we went and filmed that one. But I think as we were just like, trying to figure out, like, okay, so it can't just be neighbor related things. It really has to be both neighbors in conflict. So we were trying to figure out if we could kind of shift things around a little bit. And ultimately. No. Because it wasn't very interesting.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah.

[Dylan Redford]

And so I think that there were a couple, like, early things we did to try to figure out how the show is actually gonna work, and we had to get rid of those.

[Enya]

And how did you guys meet and start working together?

[Harrison Fishman]

We met at this. There was this film collective in Miami called Borscht Corporation, Borscht Corp. And I had a friend that I went to college with who was part of that collective and he, he's from Miami so he was had gone down there to make films and then I thought it was cool. So I went down there and I met Dylan and Dylan was part of that collective. It's a film collective, you could call it. Yeah, yeah.

[Dylan Redford]

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[Harrison Fishman]

And that's how we met.

[Enya]

Sweet. And how. So you were already down in Miami?

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, yeah, I was working for this, like, this like, filmmaking collective doing sort of bringing filmmakers down from all over the country to come make stuff in Florida and to come make stuff in Miami. So, yeah, brought Harrison down, Brought Harrison's brother down. Brought my sister down, you know, just to like make stuff. And I think there is something really special about making stuff in Florida or like, you know, in Miami. Because there's just this freedom of just like you can kind of do whatever you want in a way that was like very, you know, when we were like. We were based out of a mall that was like abandoned. And we had like making stuff from this crazy ass mall in downtown Miami. And it was kind of cowboy times. It was so awesome and it was so fun and. And I think that's where we kind of found. Well, we both were like, oh, we both like to make, you know, funny stuff with GoPros. And we both like 360 cameras.

[Harrison Fishman]

360 cameras.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I tried to get one for today.

[Harrison Fishman]

Oh, dude, you should have me. That would have been sick.

[Dylan Redford]

That would have been so right on there.

[Unidentified Female Host]

We'll do another episode.

[Dylan Redford]

Okay, great.

[Harrison Fishman]

Damn, you got me really excited over here.

[Enya]

So how long were y' all in Miami also? I'm asking you so many questions. Cause I'm from Miami.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah. Are you from Miami?

[Enya]

Yeah, I'm from Miami, Florida. Well, I said Florida because I was just like. When I say Miami, then people are like, miami Beach. I'm like, no, I'm not from Miami Beach.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, very different. You learn very quickly. Very different places. Yeah, different places.

[Enya]

I'm from, like the middle of, in between Opa Locka and North Miami. And my family still lives over there.

[Dylan Redford]

We lived in Surfside for a while.

[Enya]

I love Surfside.

[Dylan Redford]

Surfside's so chill. Yeah, yeah, we. I mean, I lived there for two and a half, almost three years.

[Enya]

Sweet.

[Dylan Redford]

You were there kind of for like a year and a half, two years.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah. Cause I was there during. I graduated college and then moved to Miami to go work with Borscht. Which was cool. Cause everybody else in my school was like going to LA or New York. And I was just like, fuck that,

[Unidentified Female Host]

I'm going to Miami.

[Enya]

Yeah, dude, Miami is unreal. Also, Florida is just like as scary as it is specifically South Florida. And Miami to me is the greatest place ever. Cause it just is. I mean, it's the closest to Central America slash Caribbean living you can get in the whole country and it feels like a different country. Especially once you go into like, going from like North Miami to Alapata is like literally a different world. You're just fully now in like a neighborhood where there are no fences. And it's just like you see chickens running through everyone's yards and like, you can't see signs because all of the, like, nature is overgrown and it's so unreal.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Did y' all ride airboats, boats?

[Dylan Redford]

Oh, yeah.

[Enya]

Everglades.

[Harrison Fishman]

Oh, yeah.

[Enya]

Everglades.

[Dylan Redford]

Oh, yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Love the Everglades.

[Harrison Fishman]

The Everglades is the best.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, there's some. There's some kind of special magic out there that's. And it's in the DNA of our show too. I mean, we kept going back to Florida, so.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Was that like by coincidence or was that just like y' all knew y' all would get good shit in Florida?

[Harrison Fishman]

I think it's a combination of. There was. There's Grace stuff in Florida, but also my grandparents live there. And so we stayed. They have a condo there that we stayed in a few times to shoot stuff. And then we shot at this. What's it called in Pasco County. It's like the nudist capital of the world. For the finale.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I saw you were naked.

[Harrison Fishman]

I was naked. Dylan was naked.

[Unidentified Female Host]

You were naked too.

[Dylan Redford]

Totally naked. Totally naked.

[Harrison Fishman]

But that's like, you know, I mean, that's a part of Florida that. That I had never been, like Central Florida, totally different vibe than South Florida.

[Enya]

It's so. It's unreal. I haven't spent nearly as much time in North Florida. Both of my sisters, one of my oldest sister lived in Orlando.

[Harrison Fishman]

Oh, wow.

[Enya]

For like two years. And now my sister, who's three years younger than me, has been living there for like three, four years. So they're up in fucking central and North Florida in a way that I just can't understand. Like, I've gone and chilled with them and I'm just like, like, whoa. Cuz we used to do Playlist Live was like a social media based convention thing that was in Orlando, Florida.

[Harrison Fishman]

Wow.

[Enya]

But like, dude, I've always.

[Harrison Fishman]

It is a kind of a cursed place.

[Enya]

Crazy. It is like unreal.

[Harrison Fishman]

It really is.

[Unidentified Female Host]

They would shut down Universal for us though.

[Enya]

Yeah. Which was lit as you. And then Drew got banned.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Oh yeah, I got banned.

[Harrison Fishman]

What'd you do? Who.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I. Oh my God, I'm so stupid. I got gifted. I mean, basically I got gifted this like plastic pouch with like what I thought was a metal carabiner on the top. And it was. You were supposed to be able to fill it up with liquid and then you could drink it.

[Dylan Redford]

I was.

[Unidentified Female Host]

How old were you? Like, 16?

[Enya]

We were like, yeah, 17.

[Unidentified Female Host]

But no, I filled it up with raspberry vodka and then clipped it onto my thing. And I didn't think they were gonna be, like, metal detectors. So then I get there and I see metal detectors, and they're like, I have this, like, pouch full of vodka.

[Enya]

Mind you, I have the same situation going on on my, like, waistband.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Way too much vodka also.

[Enya]

Oh, yeah, no, we went, like, it. Maybe, like, you guys came prepared.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah.

[Enya]

Maybe it was necessary for that to happen because we probably would have fucking died.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I'm, like, going through the metal detector and I take it off because I'm like, oh, it's gonna go off anyway. Yeah, I'm bitch made for real. But they, like, I go through the metal detectors, they give me my back. And then this, like, evil winch, like, stops me and is like, wait, Mrs.

[Enya]

Good all the time. Ass bitch.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I know. It's so fucking annoying.

[Enya]

Like, literally so annoying.

[Dylan Redford]

Party.

[Unidentified Female Host]

And she's like, wait, stop. And I'm like, okay. And I give it, and she smells it, and she's like, what is this? And I'm like, oh, it's just, like, raspberry, like, drink mix. And she's like, oh, okay. And then another person comes by and smells it, and it's like, this is vodka. So then they, like, took all my. Took me to, like, a little, what? Security station. Literally.

[Enya]

Dude, I was so scared because I had a bunch of vodka on me in the same manner. And I ran to the bathroom right when you entered, and I went. And I chugged half of my pouch and then poured the rest down the drain and threw the pouch.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Mind you were with my twin sister. That, like, is very such a goodie.

[Enya]

Yeah, she, like, watches you run out.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

And it's also your twin.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But they took a photo of me on the oldest iPhone I've ever seen in my entire life. And then I think there's, like, a photo of me hanging in, like, the security station at Universal Orlando. I'm not allowed back.

[Enya]

He had to sign a thing that he wouldn't come back.

[Dylan Redford]

That is so funny.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I think it's expired by now, but sure. Yeah, I was pissed because.

[Enya]

And you lost your wallet, and his dumbass had his everything.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Like, Social Security, my id, like, literally everything. And I couldn't get back home to Texas, so I got, like, strip search Basically in the airport. But yeah, disaster.

[Dylan Redford]

You know, you can, you can. I think, I actually don't know if this is true, but I think in certain situations you can basically say like, you can't detain me. Like you can do certain things. There are certain, you know, ways. You can basically be like, you can't do this. Like you're not allowed to. Like the Whole Foods jail situation?

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah. Our friend was getting. Was stealing from Whole Foods and some undercover Whole Foods ops came up to him and basically told him to dump all of his stuff out. And they like surrounded him and then he was like tweaking out and then he was just like, am I being detained? And they were like, they couldn't say anything. And so he just ran out and left.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Left.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah. Something to think about.

[Enya]

You really can't hold on to anybody. I wish I knew that when I got caught stealing in high school because I would have left.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I never got caught. I was good at stealing. I would like throw it through the bars in the garden section at Walmart and then just walk out. So smart. It was mainly glow sticks. Okay.

[Enya]

The. They saw you. They were just like let that

[Harrison Fishman]

freak just seeing. Oh, here he comes again.

[Enya]

This grown ass kid. Mind you. What were you like 16?

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

I think that they like didn't just like let you hang out in Universal. Like they had like do a whole like why can't they just be like dump it out and be like have fun.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Exactly, exactly. Cuz I wasn't like drunk yet. Like going to drink there, ride roller coasters. Like hello.

[Enya]

Like hello.

[Unidentified Female Host]

That sounds fun as well.

[Enya]

That was the last playlist they ever I we ever went to. Cuz it was like actually the vibe is dead now. Cuz you would go so that you could get access to Universal with all your friends. Cuz I was like, what you get VIP after this?

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah, I'll go.

[Enya]

I go to this weird convention.

[Unidentified Female Host]

100 people in the park.

[Harrison Fishman]

Oh my God. And you could just. No lines, no lines.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Ride the same roller coaster over and over.

[Enya]

Oh man, I've had that with Six Flags before. For the Space Jam premiere they did LeBron James.

[Dylan Redford]

You know, I've heard of them.

[Enya]

Do I know I gotta pick with LeBron James.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Wow.

[Enya]

I gotta pick with LeBron James.

[Dylan Redford]

That is so sick.

[Enya]

I know. At Six Flags. Oh, they did a six.

[Harrison Fishman]

You guys love these parks, dude.

[Enya]

Actually we kind of are like park adults.

[Harrison Fishman]

You guys are like park adults?

[Dylan Redford]

I do kind of like Disney adults.

[Enya]

Like yeah, I go to Disney quite a bit. Like my sister was Just in town and me and my friends were all sitting around and like it didn't happen because other plans unraveled. Cause it was like my birthday week. But we were all really hell bent on getting a big room together at California Adventure Park. Cause we were like, imagine this. We go there shit faced all day for sure. Go back, wake up shit face all day again. I love Disney. I'm like actually an avid Disney goer.

[Harrison Fishman]

Wow.

[Dylan Redford]

Interesting.

[Harrison Fishman]

I want to go.

[Dylan Redford]

Do you have a favorite princess? Princess?

[Enya]

Honestly? Princess? Yeah. You got a little, you got a little British.

[Dylan Redford]

I did kind of little princess.

[Enya]

The monarchy. Honestly, like, no. I, I don't know. I, I like going mainly for. I like going to Minnie's house. Minnie's got a good house.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Really?

[Enya]

Yeah, the like the.

[Harrison Fishman]

She still lives there.

[Enya]

Toontown? Yeah, bro. She, they, they won't like. She's kind of in a K pop situation. They're taking all of her bread.

[Unidentified Female Host]

360 deal.

[Enya]

Yeah, she's going to be in that, she's going to be in that one story house. It's actually kind of crazy in, in Disneyland here at least. I haven't been to Florida's Disney World since I was like maybe three or four or some crazy. But the one here, Mickey lives next door and his house is huge.

[Dylan Redford]

Damn, it's huge.

[Unidentified Female Host]

And hers is just a kitchen.

[Enya]

Yeah, it's a kitchen and a makeup room. You walk in, it's her living room. You meet her, you walk to her vanity. You turn, there's the kitchen, there's the door.

[Unidentified Female Host]

What it should be. Hello.

[Harrison Fishman]

Mickey's sad.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Have y' all had any, like, neighbor disputes yourself? Like what kind of. What inspired the show? Like what made y', all, I don't know, like chase that?

[Harrison Fishman]

Well, it's funny because we're talking about Borscht in Miami and stuff, but when Dylan had invited me and Sam to come work down there for, for the summer after I graduated, my brother and Sam started, you know, getting obsessed with these neighbor dispute videos of just like people filming each other and fighting all the time. And he started editing compilations of them. He started editing comps.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Comps.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah. You guys know what that shit.

[Dylan Redford]

It's sort of cringe comp era. Yeah, yeah, there were a lot of cringe comps going around.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah. And then we made a couple fake neighbor dispute videos. Cause we were just inspired by all the real ones that we saw.

[Unidentified Female Host]

And then. Are those out there?

[Harrison Fishman]

They're out there.

[Dylan Redford]

They're out there.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Need to see those.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah. Sam and I pretend to be Neighbors in one of them, and he's covered in sunscreen and he has, like, a big hat on. And then there was another one we did where we hired. We just got, like. We put out Craigslist ads and just got, like, sort of like non actors to, like, pretend to be neighbors. And, like, we just gave them phones, and we just, like, wanted them to be. But then. Yeah, and then. And then we. One of our friends had asked Dylan if he had any show ideas, and we came up with this. We were just like, we want to film real neighbor disputes, you know? Yeah. Just being in the middle of one of them.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah, but have y' all had neighbor disputes? No.

[Harrison Fishman]

No, I haven't had a real neighbor dispute.

[Dylan Redford]

I feel like. Yeah, not really. I mean, we had one. We had one while we were making the show. Because our. The production office that we were based out of, this product, this production company, Gummy Films, which this woman, Rachel Walden, runs, who is one of the producers on the show, she has an office in Dumbo. And it was right next to, like, I would say, like, an office space. It has, like, three separate rooms inside of one office, all of them with different DJs inside of them practicing their sets. Horrible. Horrible. And I don't know, like, how they managed to be cool with it. Like, they were playing, like, totally different genres, like R and B, and then, like, some was like reggaeton, and then another one was like, I don't know, drum and bass. It was just like. Like, it was a nightmare. It was so.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Dude, have y' all been to pirate studios? Like, the. You know what I'm talking about, right? There's, like, a building. There's, like, two studio spaces in Los Angeles where It's, like, literally 100 DJ booths. And, like, it's. So that's what I'm imagining.

[Dylan Redford]

Ground zero.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

Wow. And they just battle each other out, pretty much.

[Unidentified Female Host]

It's like, who has the. A better set? And I can't lie. I go there and have fun.

[Enya]

I know you don't. Every time he goes, he wants me to go. Which it. It's fun in theory, but then it's like, am I really standing in, like, a small room? Like, why don't you just, like, get a CDJ at the crit?

[Dylan Redford]

Right.

[Unidentified Female Host]

So expensive.

[Dylan Redford]

Oh, interesting. So they're sort of for rent?

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

You rent?

[Enya]

Yeah, it's a rental room. It's like the Airbnb for DJs.

[Dylan Redford]

Oh, interesting.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Crazy.

[Enya]

If your parents hate you, you can just go to this room and blast your music instead of like, bothering your par.

[Harrison Fishman]

Can you hear the other ones going at the same time? Is it, like, soundproofed?

[Unidentified Female Host]

Not when you're like, in your room, but when you're walking through the hallways. It's terrifying.

[Harrison Fishman]

Wow.

[Unidentified Female Host]

It literally feels like cyberpunk. Like, it's like a whole different world. Like, you're, like, walking by, like, the most esoteric, like, creepy music you've ever heard. Like, it's.

[Harrison Fishman]

That sounds really cool.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Y' all should check it out.

[Harrison Fishman]

It's very sci fi.

[Unidentified Female Host]

It's very, very sci fi DJ place. So you were talking earlier like that y' all filmed an episode and then that's what secured y' all the show. Like, what was like, the pitch? Like, did y' all self fund also the first episode or, like,

[Harrison Fishman]

go ahead, take it away.

[Dylan Redford]

So, yeah, we. So the company, Brain dead. They for a little while had a, like, a wing that was funding, like, short films and stuff. And our friend Steve Smith, who was working there, he's the one that came up to us and was like, do you have any ideas? Cause we're funding pilots and stuff. So they gave us about 30k to go make an episode of the show.

[Enya]

Oh, sweet.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, so we went and we basically. That's what we did. We didn't really know what we were doing. We tried to do it in la. Didn't really work out. We got a lot of hits in Florida, so we're like, let's go there. We cast the whole thing off, off of Craigslist. We just kind of figured it out as. As we went and then we edited that together. And then Harrison's friend JP Works was working with Josh Safdie at the time and basically.

[Harrison Fishman]

And still does.

[Dylan Redford]

And still does. Yeah, still does. He's a producer there now. And so he. Harrison showed him the deck and then and showed them the episode and they were like, let's do this.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Cool.

[Enya]

So fun.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, it was really cool.

[Harrison Fishman]

We were so excited.

[Enya]

Is there worlds after this? Are you guys hoping to branch out into different things? Or are you, like, hoping to kind of stay in this world of just following through real lives?

[Harrison Fishman]

And I think we'd love to set the show up and make it just run forever and do other things.

[Unidentified Female Host]

It's infinite. Like, that's what I felt when I was watching it. I was like, y' all could do this for so long. Like, it would be so cool.

[Harrison Fishman]

It would be cool. I know we're trying to figure out, like, if it does go for a long time. That's boring stuff. But how do You. How do you scale up and.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

And live your life and do other projects and, you know, do all that stuff. Yeah. We're psyched. Yeah. It's cool that people like it so good.

[Enya]

I love it so much. When the 360 camera broke out in the beach episode, like. Yeah, I. I just couldn't believe that. I. I really could not believe that, man.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Did y' all put that 360 camera on what's his.

[Enya]

On the stream mic?

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

Well, Mike, actually.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Mike.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah, Mike. Mike. His name is Mike. Yeah.

[Dylan Redford]

It's funny.

[Harrison Fishman]

That guy is, like, just the nicest dude when he's not auditing and he's just a genius. He's, like, so smart, so nice. But then once he. He is. When he's in his element, he's a nightmare. Yeah. And it's amazing to watch him, like. No, we had met him on the beach and then he just had a. He uses those cameras and so he just, like. And then we just had him send us all the footage. And then, like. Yeah, I had edited and worked with 360 cameras a lot, so I was just like, it was a dream to do that, dude.

[Enya]

So fire that, like, back and forth is amazing. Is there anyone on the show you guys still keep in contact with, or is there anybody who, like, you found became really attached to you? Because I would. I would assume that being so within someone's personal space and then also, like, there is no avoiding emotional attachment, at least from their side. You guys are like. In a way, you guys are bringing such a relief to them, and they're like, yeah. Do you guys have any interactions that, like, come to top of mind in

[Dylan Redford]

terms of getting so much with all of them? Yeah, I think. And for the most part, everyone really loved being in the show and really likes the show, you know, And I think it feels very validating to hear their side, like, you know, treated, taken seriously and everyone. You know, the classic thing that a lot of them say is like, well, at least I'm not the craziest one of the bunch. And so I think there's like a. There's like a sense that, like, they're apart. I think the weird. The thing about neighbor disputes is it can be very isolating. You find yourself kind of becoming very paranoid, and it becomes something where you're like, you know, it's a classic, like, am I the asshole thing. You know, And I think that becomes really. Yeah. Very isolating. So seeing that what you're experiencing is, like, something that a lot of people Experience and maybe in ways that like you would never imagine. I think does feel, it feels validating, you know. But yeah, so I mean we're, we're, we're, we're in contact with everyone and I think we, there are some neighbors who are like, we feel, you know, we just hung harder with that. We're just like a better hang a little bit. So we like have, you know, it's like more casual, but for the most part.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's ones that like, we're more down to like call and have like an

[Dylan Redford]

hour conversation and that's what they want.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Wanted.

[Harrison Fishman]

Right.

[Dylan Redford]

Some of them don't want that kind of relationship.

[Harrison Fishman]

Right.

[Dylan Redford]

You know?

[Enya]

Yeah, some people were really about like, yeah, like the public. Oh, the public's gonna like a lot of them. I did feel this thing of like, okay, they, they are really under the. And there is reality in it. So I won't call it a delusion because of course people are gonna watch. And you guys did a really good job of editing it where it doesn't make you walk away wanting to necessarily pick a side.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Like, yeah, it's so annoying.

[Enya]

Yeah, there's no one where I, I'm like, that's the asshole. I'm always like, you are both fucking insane. And like a hobby would maybe fill this time up, but fuck it.

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[Enya]

This is endearing. I guess you guys love each other in a weird way. Like that's also how I feel about all of them. I just can't help but feel like there's just such this like infatuation with one another that like it's never admitted or like and some of them of like the people. I felt like maybe one person had this like thing for them more than the other. But so much it was just like

[Unidentified Female Host]

yeah, I never felt like the, the I think is it the first episode

[Dylan Redford]

where

[Unidentified Female Host]

they like y' all end it with them being like oh we could have played Dungeons and like that's literally such a sweet moment. And like totally. I I also love that like by the end of most episodes I'm pretty sure like it's not like fully solved which I think is really cool. I don't know. I Just need to say that I think that's really interesting.

[Dylan Redford]

That was something we were nervous about, but I think felt really real. It would be very easy in a normal reality television show to just force some sort of happy ending. And I think that was the thing for us. It's like the show can feel maybe aesthetically in the reality TV world, but the process that we went by is more like a documentary where, like, the real, like, reality wins. You know, it's not. It's not resolved, so it's not going to be resolved.

[Harrison Fishman]

You know, what do you do with this. What do you do with this real situation at the end? How do you end it? Yeah, it's funny that you bring up the, like that they feel infatuated with each other because I feel like it is something that, like when we are filming and just something interesting about neighbor disputes in general is like, you know, the show does paint like a portrait of America that I feel like is real and that, like, people are very lonely. And I think that, like, you know, we didn't set out to make like a post Covid show, but it does feel like Covid kind of like exasperates, masturbated, exasperated.

[Unidentified Female Host]

For sure.

[Enya]

Yeah. Because even. Even the beefing, especially because so much of it was based in Florida, obviously. It made me think of my neighborhood set up.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah.

[Enya]

And I was like, oh, yeah. I guess all of my neighbor's property to our right, we did just have that plot of brass in the middle where we would like near our driveways and then it was the gate. But like that whole land. And we. I mean, luckily we never had crazy neighbors. We usually had neighbors with kids our age. So it was chill. But even just watching like those two women go over that patch of grass, so crazy.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I'm like, this has to be.

[Enya]

Yeah, I'm like, this has to be a side effect of loneliness and just like so much time to yourself and observation about. And like. Yeah, it is a really good. To me, it feels like a really nice picture of like the American dream and how we've really kind of come to the hall of it where it was like, yes, you get your own thing. And it was kind of this idea of like community and neighbors and now within the span of four years, having a neighbor. So it's almost like looked down on, like, community in itself. Like, there's this idea of everyone has this dying need to go and remove themselves from society and go and live out in the middle of anywhere and like kind of the, like Nara Smith, like, ballerina farm of the world. So it's nice to see like the reality for most Americans, which is just like you don't actually get a lot of privacy. This is your safe space. Everywhere else outside of this is a mental hellscape. A lot of people got forced into that space way more than maybe they ever spent time at home.

[Harrison Fishman]

Right.

[Enya]

So now they're just viewing their personal space and maybe what it means to them more so than I think they would before, especially now with the retribution so easily accessible of posting somebody online and just being like, this guy's a fucking dick.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Enya]

Getting to have.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Sorry.

[Enya]

No, I was just gonna end it with saying. So it's nice that you guys. None of them picked a side. Like, none of them felt like.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Did any of them feel like y' all were choosing a side? Like, did y' all have to have conversations with people where you were like, like, I swear, like, this is.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, I think that that was a fear. I mean, it's, you know, it's kind of intense. Like if you put yourself in their position, it's like the person that they are the most angry at, who also has the most shit to say about them, is also on camera talking shit about you. So they're rightfully going through their head being like, what kind of crazy shit are they saying about me? And then the next step is. And do the documentary filmmakers think that they're in the right because they're filming them too? So it's like, it's kind of. I mean, we just had to build trust and ultimately explain that the show lives and dies on this feeling that we're giving both sides an equal opportunity to, to give their point of view. And that is the heart of the show. And we wouldn't do the show if it was just one sided. And I feel like we really drove that home. We really drove that home. And I think, yeah, and I feel like. And it was true. Like, we weren't lying. Like, that is the core. So I feel like we would have to remind them that, that like, we are really here to listen. And I think that they believe that

[Harrison Fishman]

because why would we take a s. Like, do we really give a that much about your patch of grass? No, we care about you. Like, you're so interesting.

[Enya]

That's. I think the crazy thing is we are. I, I've been talking about a lot to my friends. Like, not so much on camera, but I do a lot of work in like interviewing, like for like fashion shows or like a movie thing, like on carpet. And it is unreal that both subconsciously and by practice and purpose, people are anticipating the worst when it comes to content. I think specifically of people whose job it is not to be a public facing figure because so much content that we are consuming like satire has just become the new normal. But then to shoot higher than satire you kind of have to be a. So now like that is the common place. And I think like even when I'm filming like and I'm prepping questions for a show, I've so many times I'm always avoidant of like pop culture and yes and no questions. I think they're stupid and I think to like bait people into anger is like so irrational, especially at a grown age. But that is the normal because I always get knocked down and like it's. They're like, no. Well we kind of want to ask a question. Like I can't be specific but like it, it'll. It'll be like, oh. Like they want to ask a question that entice is like oh no. Like what the fuck? Hell no. Because that's what we're consuming the most. That's what we're like most intrigued by. People are so just really down to watch a spiral. And it kind of I guess goes. You guys were infatuated with the videos of people beefing. And I like that Yalls take on it was to just lay out the fact that yeah, these two people are beefing, but just because maybe one is barking louder than the other doesn't mean like yeah, yeah, that's like you guys did a good job of like there'd be usually a loud ass beefing with somebody who's like kind of conniving and a little more slick and yeah, it's just, I think people are just in a headspace where they're anticipating that kind of negativity. Especially when it comes to expressing themselves and boundaries.

[Dylan Redford]

Right.

[Enya]

It's just so odd. Yeah. I think that is maybe why it feels like post TikTok Covid world, I

[Dylan Redford]

mean you saw a lot of people get famous off of conflict, you know, like posting something where they like, you know, got in an argument in the shopping, you know, in the shopping in like a shopping mall about a mask and suddenly they have like, you know, like half a million followers on TikTok and they're like, okay, so I guess this is something, you know, and it's so. I think part of it is like a lot. I mean without it it sounds kind of corny, but it's like these, the platforms, whatever they reward conflict and they reward anger more than anything. And so, so for us, it was like, well, that's just one part of it. And then I think why we were not just interested in conflict as a whole, but neighbor conflicts, is that the ones that happen in the parking lot or people yelling at each other to park or whatever, those people just walk away and they don't have to coexist in any meaningful way. Whereas a neighbor dispute, you scream at someone about their recycling bin and then you have to see them for 20, 25 years. Yeah. You know, so it's like, it's like, how do you manage that kind of relationship where you can't just walk away, you know, and. And that also is like, it's like family too. It's like, you know, there are people in your life where you can't just cut them out, you know, it's not that simple.

[Enya]

Well, I think that's maybe why we're so drawn to it because we do talk about how, again, post Covid, there's been this influx that is incredible of like, boundaries and, and like people being able to stand up for themselves and being able to recognize like, the validity in their feelings and their ideas and whatever. And like, yes, God bless the fucking nation. I love that over therapy.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah.

[Enya]

But yeah, like, that's something you should have just had. And like, sadly as a whole, no one was raised correct. So I can't really put too much on y', all, but a lot of it is post that Covid world of like, there is no gray area and you are taught now kind of like, like, if. If that's not serving you cut it. If it's not serving you cut it. We talk all the time about how like an exchange doesn't have to be positive on both ends because the things you're going to witness through it are going to be one, hilarious.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah.

[Enya]

And two, you actually also might find that you are just projecting onto like, I don't know, like, I, I like that the show, a lot of it felt like a very clear, like, you both, both are like, so similar and you hate it. And that's kind of what the whole world feels like it's on right now. Everyone became so singular during COVID and close minded that it kind of did the opposite effect. And everyone's in this like, conservative singularity of this is my world and my truth and I need to stick to it. I'm like, no, but it's not.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah. And it's making you miserable.

[Enya]

Yeah. It's like fueling you End up seeking out more anger. Cause subconsciously, you're just going for it. It's what's.

[Harrison Fishman]

I feel like that the one in the first episode where they both moved out to the middle of nowhere feels like the most. I think we just loved how clear it was that they just are literally in the middle of nowhere to get away from people and they just are in. A neighbor dispute is like. It still rocks me when I think about it. And there's something so sad about it.

[Unidentified Female Host]

What, did he bring the city to the country but you can bring the country is.

[Enya]

Well, that was. I feel like my favorite part of that episode is the woman says it to her son, and he just goes, there's fences in the city, Mom.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Like, he said that.

[Dylan Redford]

You like that part?

[Enya]

Like, say it to her again.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, totally.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Also, the mediator in that episode was so fascinating. Like, right?

[Enya]

To be a mediator is like, crazy. Like, crazy job, crazy line of work.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah. That whole scene was so intense. I was like. I mean, I'm sure y'.

[Dylan Redford]

All.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I mean, y' all were there. I'm sure it was crazy watching them, like, bark at each other like that.

[Dylan Redford]

Like, it was pretty intense.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah. It's really satisfying, though, to, like. I mean, it's one of the. The great things about the show is you, like, get these differing sides for, like, weeks, and then you finally. They never interact. And then if they do interact, it's like. It's like a chemical reaction. You know what I mean? Like, you're putting these two variables together, you have no idea how it's gonna go. And, like, you also, like. It's like they. It's also funny because everyone repeats the narratives that they tell themselves in, like, in the interviews to us, but then when they get together, they are repeating the, like, the same narratives, but they're, like, just not seeing eye to eye,

[Sponsor Voice]

you know, it's so crazy.

[Harrison Fishman]

And mediators, like, yeah, I don't know. They never. I just don't know if they work. We didn't choose mediators where we're like, these are gonna go bad. We were just like, great.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Like, let's.

[Dylan Redford]

Hopefully they wanted them to work. We genuinely were like, oh, I really hope this fixes it, you know? And, like. And I also think part of it is, like, a lot of the mediators are, like, working part time. It's a side gig. And there isn't, like, a lot of support financially through, like, local governments for funding for mediators to. So it's, like, part. You know, And a lot of them are Trying. Like, one of the mediators told us once, he was like, the number one way that, like, a neighbor dispute will never get resolved is if you go to court with your neighbor.

[Harrison Fishman]

Right.

[Dylan Redford]

So the last step before, like, the no return is to try to do mediation. And if mediation fails and you go to court, it's fried. Like, the whole thing's cooked. You're never gonna come back from it. You probably should move, you know? Interesting. So that's like, you know, and. But. But I'm like, yeah, for sure. But the media has to be, you know, has to do their job. You know, they have to, like, actually get these two people to come to a similar conclusion.

[Harrison Fishman]

I also think that, like, a good mediation is, like, has to happen in, like, sessions.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

It's like they gotta, like, know. They gotta, like, meet with them separately a few times. They gotta meet with both parties. They gotta put them together. They gotta, like, break them apart, talk to them.

[Enya]

Yeah. I would argue that maybe you guys would have been better at a mediation

[Harrison Fishman]

with the time you guys were spending

[Enya]

with them and, like. Cause again, again, I. Me and Drew are like, people talkers. Question mark. Like, we just. In public. I. People love to speak to us, come up to us, and just like, especially older people, like, love to just tell me all of their business. So I can really only imagine. Again, back to that loneliness thing is, like, a lot of these people are older. Obviously, they don't have community because, like, you're not happy where you are, like, with the people, like, actually physically within reach of you. Sorry, I just lost it. No, I fully lost my thought.

[Harrison Fishman]

I like what you were saying. It was all.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, I was right there with you. Yeah, totally.

[Enya]

Yeah, I'm like. I fully just fried out. I was like, wait, what?

[Harrison Fishman]

Where am I right now?

[Unidentified Female Host]

I'm greening out. I'm scared I'm gonna be stuck like this forever.

[Enya]

Paralyzed.

[Harrison Fishman]

Did that happen?

[Dylan Redford]

You guys greened out?

[Unidentified Female Host]

Oh, I cannot smoke weed. I will. I will become a neighbor. That cable dispute, like, literally, I. I become.

[Enya]

You are the neighbor people.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah, true.

[Enya]

Cuz when y' all were saying about that story with the noises. Yeah, we've been those people. Well, to be fair, we lived in this K town apartment forever, and the girls under us, like, we keyed with, we got along with. Never an issue. Chill. And then new people moved in, and we immediately started beefing over the parking

[Unidentified Female Host]

because those girls next door neighbor. I played Chief Keef one day in Peak Pandemic. Like, it was three months in, and then she, like, pulled up on my front doorstep and cussed me out through my door. And I had choice words that I'm not proud of but she deserved it. Like, don't play with her.

[Harrison Fishman]

Did you see her after that?

[Unidentified Female Host]

Oh, all the time. We moved out before her and we were there for six years.

[Enya]

So yeah, that was low key Heart building. So she had every.

[Unidentified Female Host]

She ran that.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, she ran it.

[Enya]

But we were playing one time the neighbors were having like, they, these new neighbors under us moved in and we're loud and I don't complain about noise, but they were having parties and playing the bunkest music I've ever heard. And I was like, it does get to a point like this sucks, but we never said anything to them. This party had gone on till like 2am and at this I, I, the way the house, house was set up is my like room was at the front of the apartment complex and right under. I could just hear them and they were just having the most fried ass conversation. Like I could, we couldn't help but bother them and like disrupt them. Do you know what I'm talking about? I had these huge Yamaha speakers in my like room at the sides of my laptop. And like we went into it and we were playing that like we were playing the, Was it the Cave master?

[Unidentified Female Host]

They're like, yeah, we would just play like real really scary sounds through it.

[Enya]

We have videos of them. What was that?

[Unidentified Female Host]

They were like, what was that? And they're like super drunk at this point, so they thought they just heard like Bigfoot run through LA or some shit.

[Harrison Fishman]

What was the conversations they were having?

[Enya]

They were literally this girl. They were definitely around our age. All of them worked in entertainment and like production and shit. And they were just like. To me, an annoying conversation is them being like, you know, this world and this hindrance. I'm like, oh fuck. It's like right under my window. And then somehow the conversation turned into like them all talking. They were all like, were like, I'm straight, I'm straight, I'm sure. But then they all started talking about like if they would have sex with the same gender.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Like they all started, they were all

[Enya]

coming out, they were literally just all slowly coming out. But it was like a girl. And then like three dudes. I was like, what is this conversation? And like I, I did let it go for a minute and I was like, dude, I no, this has to.

[Harrison Fishman]

Well, it's annoying to like, to, to like if you're also like sober and like hearing drunk people's or like high people's Conversation. It's just sort of like, what the fuck?

[Dylan Redford]

This is not interesting to me. It's so interesting to you.

[Enya]

Yeah, I know. I don't think I. We wouldn't have bothered if it was interesting.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah, I would have tuned in.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Dylan Redford]

I would have just sat there. Interesting.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Okay, I have one more question for you.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Unidentified Female Host]

What's next? What's on the docket? What do y' all want to do next? What's the vibe? Also, anything y' all have been listening to? Music wise or media wise? Like what's tea.

[Harrison Fishman]

Well, that was like 20 questions.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I know that.

[Harrison Fishman]

I know.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I'm sorry.

[Harrison Fishman]

Answer.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Answer the media questions.

[Harrison Fishman]

I'm done.

[Dylan Redford]

I'm sure way too many questions.

[Harrison Fishman]

When is this coming out?

[Enya]

Friday.

[Harrison Fishman]

This is coming out on Friday?

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

So we are going to be doing another season. We're really excited.

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Oh fuck.

[Harrison Fishman]

That's so awesome.

[Enya]

Congrats, dude.

[Unidentified Female Host]

That's amazing.

[Harrison Fishman]

We're so psych.

[Dylan Redford]

We get to do it again.

[Enya]

Dude, that's so far. That makes me so happy.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Wait, gag on that.

[Dylan Redford]

I love that.

[Enya]

I'm not kidding. I literally after watching wait.

[Unidentified Female Host]

So I get to watch the last

[Enya]

episode after like watching episodes four and five. I watched them back to back. I was like, damn. I think we ended up. I. I was with my friend and we put on like we're like we need the same rush of a show.

[Dylan Redford]

Like it's like a rush. It literally is.

[Enya]

We were like, dude, that you asking questions.

[Harrison Fishman]

That's so awesome.

[Dylan Redford]

So glad. It feels like a rush. That's so exciting.

[Harrison Fishman]

We really were. And you know, it was really awesome that like HBO wanted to drop them one at a time. Cause like we're working with like, you know, it's like old school HBO originals team, late night team and they're just so amazing and they just like know TV in this like just like the right way and so it's just cool. It really felt like we were like. It was like giving people like a little hit every. I don't know.

[Enya]

It's idyllic. That's how I would prefer it because all. Also again, I'm not somebody who, if. If I have the option to binge something, I'm more likely to leave it dead.

[Dylan Redford]

Wow.

[Enya]

Cuz I'm just like, oh, that'll be there forever. Like I've done it with so many series recently. I did with Abbott Elementary. I caught up and then I was like, well I'm going to leave that cuz I don't know what else is Happening.

[Harrison Fishman]

So that's interesting. I wonder if a lot of people feel like that I even did it

[Enya]

like with Insecure recently. I got to like, like season four and then I'm just like, I get like almost attacked. I'm just like.

[Dylan Redford]

Well, everyone said to us when we were doing this, they were like, no one cares about Anthology. Everyone wants a through line.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Dylan Redford]

And so we were. So it was. And I do think that like we're considering maybe returning to some other. To some old stories potentially from the first season. But I do think that it's nice to have something where, where things are sort of self contained a little bit to kind of mix it up. Cause also you get into the rhythm of some of these shows where it's like they leave you on these kind of corny cliffhangers. You're like, okay, you're drawing this out. You're really milking this.

[Harrison Fishman]

Especially with documentary, it's so easy to. I mean, I think that's also why we just were like part of the form of the show is just like we just are so afraid to make anyone bored. So we're just like slamming it full of shit.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Quite literally the opposite of boredom. That's good.

[Dylan Redford]

So glad to hear that.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah. No, I.

[Dylan Redford]

It's like our greatest fear.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah.

[Enya]

You know, it's not a show I can and I am famous. Especially cuz usually if we're watching TV in a group, I get high and I walk away.

[Unidentified Female Host]

You get on that damn iPhone or.

[Enya]

Yeah, I get on my phone.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I was off the damn phone the whole time.

[Enya]

But like you can't, you literally can't, like, you cannot miss a single second. It's not a show I can like put on and like walk around. Cuz I'm just like I. I need to see everything that's happening because it's like visually and just audio wise, like the combination of like seeing what these people, how dead serious they are, just everything. It's like you couldn't get an actor, I think to like do half of that because it's just such. From a real place. Awesome. So awesome. Well, congrats on the second season.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Congratulations. That's so cool.

[Dylan Redford]

Thank you.

[Harrison Fishman]

We're so excited.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Crazy.

[Harrison Fishman]

Sort of daunting in a.

[Dylan Redford]

In a positive way kind of scared, but excited.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yeah.

[Enya]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Feeling.

[Harrison Fishman]

No, no, it's good.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Y' all will rise to the occasion.

[Harrison Fishman]

Thank you.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Y' all did it once, y' all can do it again.

[Dylan Redford]

Gonna do it again.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah. Thank y' all so much for.

[Enya]

Wait, no, we gotta get some Media.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Oh, yeah.

[Harrison Fishman]

Recommendations.

[Enya]

Yeah. What's Yalls recommendations? Music show.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Also, were y' all kind of inspired by Jackass? A little bit.

[Harrison Fishman]

You know what? Definitely.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Okay, I caught that.

[Dylan Redford]

How did you even. That's so cool you bring that up. No one has ever brought that up.

[Harrison Fishman]

We're trying to get home, hopefully. Yeah. Anyways. But I love Jackass.

[Dylan Redford]

Love Jackass.

[Harrison Fishman]

Probably the most inspiring thing exactly, like, ever.

[Unidentified Female Host]

So major. Literally, the camera work.

[Dylan Redford]

The camera work?

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah. Just everything.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah. Like, they've shot on a ton of different cameras, and I just love how clean it was. It's just like the prank name, and then, like, you watch it and then it's the next one. It's just like. It's so the font just, boom, clean.

[Harrison Fishman]

No, Jackass is just. I mean, Spike Jonze and Johnny Knoxville and just. It's just the perfect fucking project.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Exactly.

[Harrison Fishman]

And you know what's funny? When you're younger, and I don't know if this is a younger boy thing, but you, like, watch Jackass and then you, like, do it.

[Unidentified Female Host]

You go recreate it.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, right.

[Harrison Fishman]

For sure. What the fuck? It's like, not a good thing. But I did it so much where I was just filming each other, like,

[Unidentified Female Host]

beating the shit ball.

[Harrison Fishman]

Tapping each other.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Exactly.

[Dylan Redford]

It's like, what, Jumping off my roof? What are you doing?

[Unidentified Female Host]

My brother would put me in, like, trash cans, and we had this really tall hill in front of our house, and they would roll me down and, like, film it on, like, a VHS camera. It was so violently dangerous. But, like, literally, those family videos are, like, so precious.

[Harrison Fishman]

They're so.

[Enya]

That's so funny. I guess because I grew up with, like, majority sisters, I watched it a lot with my older sister and we thought it was so funny. But we. We were like, girl, yes.

[Harrison Fishman]

No, 100%.

[Unidentified Female Host]

It might be a white guy thing.

[Enya]

Like, women who are watching were smarts to be like, that's gorgeous. For the television.

[Harrison Fishman]

Right, Right. Yeah.

[Dylan Redford]

Trying to think of some media.

[Harrison Fishman]

I know, dude, I'm.

[Dylan Redford]

This is kind of tough.

[Unidentified Female Host]

We talked about OPN for a second.

[Dylan Redford]

We did talk about OPN for a second.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Is there, like, a song you're listening to on repeat right now?

[Harrison Fishman]

What song? You know what I've been listening to? The Harry Nilsson song Co Coconut.

[Dylan Redford]

Oh, that's funny.

[Harrison Fishman]

I don't know why it's so good.

[Dylan Redford]

Wait, how does it go?

[Harrison Fishman]

The line? Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Just making sure. Just making sure.

[Harrison Fishman]

But I feel like, just completely mind numbed that that's what I want to listen to on, like, sometimes I'll just run that back because I just. Like, the. I mean, Harry Nelson is just amazing.

[Enya]

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. The other night, I was throwing on a bunch of the old Muppets covers, and we were. Which one is, like, about the Florida Key? She's in the Florida Keys. Yeah. Yeah, we were. I was listening to their cover. Yeah. I was listening to their cover of that for, like, a few days.

[Harrison Fishman]

That's sick.

[Enya]

And I was just like, wow. And then they have a cover of, like, where My baby. Where my baby smiles at me. She goes to Rio. Like, it's just like they. They made this huge fake Rio beach shoreline. It's. I just love the Muppets.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Happen to Muppets.

[Dylan Redford]

Really get inspired by it.

[OCD Testimonial Speaker]

I love the Muppets.

[Harrison Fishman]

Muppets are fun. I was watching the Muppets Christmas Special.

[OCD Testimonial Speaker]

Think.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yes. During the holidays, and I never watched it, and it's amazing.

[Enya]

The Christmas Carol.

[Harrison Fishman]

Yes.

[Enya]

Oh, my God. I love that. It's incredible when Gonzo jumps out of the window. Or is it Rizzo? I think Gonzo jumps out the window, dude. I love the Muppets. Yeah. I have, like, a hyper fixation with them. Y' all should tap in.

[Harrison Fishman]

They're literally hilarious.

[Enya]

They did a great estate sale, and I was under the delusion that I was about to get some crazy stuff from the Muppets Go to Space movie. And I was, like, on live auctions watching it.

[Harrison Fishman]

And how much was it?

[Enya]

I wanted the chairs from their dining seat. Somebody bought all of the Muppets chairs from the deck. And all of their chairs are custom, like, to each character.

[Unidentified Female Host]

I mean, it was, like, in the tens of thousands.

[Enya]

Yeah, no, no. I literally, I. I think I. I didn't even get approved to bid that high because I've never been on anything in my life, and I had the audacity to sit there at my computer. I was like, well, today's the day, Muppets.

[Dylan Redford]

Totally.

[Enya]

All right, well, thank you guys so much. That was.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Do you want to say a song? Could you think of.

[Dylan Redford]

You know, I will say that I. My sister, Lena Redford, who helped also as a story producer on the show, she. She showed me, like, maybe it was, like, four years ago, maybe five years ago. Pink Panthers. Oh. And I just, like. I fucking loved her music and, like, I don't know. So props out to my sister for calling that one. She's just been. Been, like, killing it and.

[Unidentified Female Host]

Yeah.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah. So she was early. Early early on.

[Unidentified Female Host]

That early?

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah, early on. Yeah. Because my sis. So that's awesome.

[Enya]

Dude, Pink is so fire.

[Dylan Redford]

It's just so good and, like, I don't know, it feels, like, unique and fresh in a way that's, like, really still very exciting.

[Enya]

Yeah. Especially with everybody, like, jumping into post 2019 drum and bass and, like, garage music. She did, like, a really good. But that also just goes to prove the time is like a tale as old as time. I'm just, like, she studied up on it, so that's why it sounds so good. She's grown up under the thumb of somebody who has great music taste, and she actually seeks out to make great stuff.

[Dylan Redford]

I think that's why I arrived at it through loving drum and bass. So it was cool to get into a pop star, basically through drum and bass. That's so crazy.

[Enya]

Dude. She's so far. That huge remix album she did, I mean, it has the stateside remix on it. That's huge now. But. But, like, so far, it's so cool for her to actually stick also to, like, garage style and just release that crazy of a. Like, she didn't just do, like, some random deluxe. She was like, I'm just gonna go to everyone else I ever wanted on this album and make 18 versions of every single song. So cool.

[Unidentified Female Host]

But.

[Enya]

But thank you guys for having us.

[Harrison Fishman]

Thank you, guys. This was so fun.

[Dylan Redford]

You guys are amazing. This is so awesome.

[Harrison Fishman]

This was when we're talking about we were recording.

[Dylan Redford]

Yeah. Like, not holding a mic.

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