I love new york

Summary

Emergency Intercom – "I Love New York"

Host: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Date: October 8, 2025
Hosts: Enya Umanzor and Drew Phillips

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Episode Overview

This episode captures Enya and Drew’s adventures during a trip to New York City for Fashion Week. Walking the streets, riffing on city life, and reflecting on everything from spiritual psychosis to New York bar culture, the pair offer their signature blend of deadpan banter, personal storytelling, and existential humor. The episode is a loose, free-ranging conversation peppered with surreal bits, impromptu debates, and a dose of heartfelt reflection—perfect for fans who love the duo’s chaotic friendship and witty takes on pop culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Arrival in New York & Instant Culture Shock

• First Impressions of New York:
  • Enya and Drew describe the energy of New York as both "cloudy and gorgeous" (03:20), expressing awe at how quickly darkness falls in the city in fall.
  • An encounter with local teenagers exposes their outsider status. A teen says Drew looks like he just came in from Miami, leading to a humorous but slightly destabilizing exchange:
    • “He looked at Drew and was like, ‘You look like you just came in from Miami’... It decentered him and destabilized him in a crazy way.” — Enya (03:34)
    • “Then I yelled, ‘You’re not even from Brooklyn... you have to check in with me!’” — Drew (04:46)

NYC Survival, Losing Stuff, and "Worldly Goods"

• Enya’s Forgetfulness:
  • Enya consistently leaves her phone, iPad, and wallet around the city.
    • “No, we know you’ve left your iPad, your wallet, your iPhone, your vape. Literally any technology or identification that Enya's had on this trip has been left somewhere.” — Drew (05:13)
  • They recount a cafe incident where a stranger returned Enya’s phone, identifying her from her Blythe doll wallpaper (06:46).
• Worldly Detachment:
  • Enya (mock-philosophically): “I don’t attach myself to worldly goods because I am earthly.” (05:00)
  • Drew: “She left her wallet in the Uber... that guy was a saint. Came up on $40 for Enya’s fault.” (05:44)

Fashion Week & Brand Collabs

• Industry Satire:
  • They poke fun at Fashion Week and joke about bizarre brand collaborations:
    • “We have to start asking what a brand’s sexual identity is, because I’m starting to believe most brands are polyamorous.” — Enya (07:54)
    • “Supreme is the ringleader... Supreme is a Supreme witch.” — Drew (08:23)
• Influencer Invasion:
  • Both express mild embarrassment at being podcasters/influencers adding to the city’s Fashion Week chaos:
    • “Everyone here already has to get terrorized all week by every influencer who’s come into town to be like, look at my shoes, look at my shirt, look at my pants, and look at us. No different than the rest.” — Enya (09:19)

NYC Nightlife & Bar Culture

• Gay Bar Adventures:
  • Drew describes his ventures into New York's gay bars, forgetting their names but loving the chaos:
    • “I went to the gay bars of New York. I went to Animal... Berserk. And I went to the Lexingborough or whatever. The Lex...” — Drew (10:17)
  • Enya jokes about Drew’s inability to remember or document experiences but being “the most inquisitive person in terms of random information.” (10:38)

Existential/Spiritual Humor & "Religious Psychosis"

• Praying at 3am:
  • Drew discusses late-night anxiety and bouts of "religious psychosis" (12:03):
    • "Every single night at like 3am the devil's at—where, mind you—I enter like a level of religious psychosis. I'm like, oh my god, the end is near. I need to start praying to God, bitch. I'm not even a fucking Christian like that." — Drew (12:12, 12:51)
  • Enya: “My OCD convinces me that if you start praying, you're actually doing the opposite because you’re only talking to God when you need something.” (13:12)
• Quick Detours:
  • They pivot into banter about being dripped on by possible slime, and a memory of getting hand sanitizer sprayed in the face in Chinatown (13:30).

Pet Psychics, Cat Demons, and Attention Spans

• Pet Readings:
  • Enya recounts watching a woman do psychic readings for pets, including a "demon cat":
    • “The cat was saying that it is both evil and good. It shares both of the intentions.” — Enya (22:01)
  • She reflects on her own long attention span for surreal internet rabbit holes, joking she watched a ten-minute pet psychic video at normal speed (23:28).
• Screen Time:
  • The pair compare phone screen times, revealing marathon TikTok and YouTube sessions (24:07).

Partying, Alcohol, and Social Anxieties

• House Party Evolution:

  • Reflections on party culture from Project X-style high school parties to today’s blackouts:
    • “Now to go to a house party, it’s to black out so you don’t have to deal with what’s going on.” — Drew (27:24)
  • Enya and Drew worry about their family histories of addiction, joking with darkly comic fatalism:
    • “Cats don’t know not to go by a candle till they get their whiskers burnt a little bit, you know?” — Enya (29:37)

• Drinking in Public:

  • The duo discuss buzz balls vs. Cutwater drinks, joking about Steve Lacy influencer syndrome and question the legality of drinking outside (42:42).

New York City Wonder, Paranoia & Living in the Moment

• Marveling at the City:

  • They frequently break to admire NYC’s beauty, express awe at the city’s construction, and ponder conspiracy-like thoughts:
    • “How did they build this city so fast? Did you know that they only started building buildings this tall in 2010?” — Enya (21:03)
    • “Is there a law that everybody has to turn their lights on at a certain time? Because every light just is on now, just kind of naturally. It's so weird.” — Enya (52:36)

• On Living in NY:

  • Drew: “I love just like mobbing around solo... You go outside, you run into friends, and then you spend the day. You don’t have to make plans and like a finite plan scares the ever-living out of me.” (25:09)

Banter, Friendship, and Signature Bits

• On Kissing (Or Not):

  • Enya and Drew riff on never having kissed, imagining an exaggerated, platonic friendship:
    • “We’ve never for real kissed ever... We want to build up the tension between this kiss so much that by the time we actually get to kissing, it’s like, oh my God, that’s it.” — Enya (54:07, 54:15)
    • “When we kiss, are we gonna kiss or are we gonna make out?... I’m not putting your tongue in my mouth.” — Enya (54:25, 54:28)

• Fake Fights:

  • “We fake fight the most in public... some of our fake fights are what we really want to say, but it’s like guised as a bit and like wash our hands, move on.” — Drew (55:14)

• On NYC as Possibility Space:

  • “The thing about New York is you don’t even know where the night is going to take you... that’s why people love to come here.” — Enya (51:50)

• On Friendship:

  • Drew jokingly frames providing Enya with alcohol as his form of support:
    • “See how I cure her frustration? See how I provide for my girl when she’s sad? I get her alcohol.” (55:43)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I don’t attach myself to worldly goods because I am earthly."
  — Enya (05:00)

• "Supreme is the ringleader, and Supreme is a Supreme witch."
  — Drew (08:23)

• "My OCD convinces me that if you start praying, you’re actually doing the opposite because you’re only talking to God when you need something."
  — Enya (13:12)

• "Cats don’t know not to go by a candle till they get their whiskers burnt a little bit, you know?"
  — Enya (29:37)

• "You could just, like, expand your world tenfold. Tenfold."
  — Enya (51:50)

• "We never, for real, kissed, ever... We’re like saving it, like Mormons."
  — Enya (54:07)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:02] – Arriving in New York; pacing and blending in vs. being an obvious outsider.
• [05:00] - [06:46] – Enya’s forgetfulness and “worldly detachment” bit; Uber and café story.
• [07:32] - [09:19] – Fashion Week, surreal brand collab jokes, influencer invasion.
• [10:17] - [10:54] – Drew’s night out at NYC’s gay bars.
• [12:03] - [14:13] – "Religious psychosis" and praying at 3am.
• [15:04] - [15:31] – The concept of pet psychics and demon cats.
• [23:28] - [24:22] – Screen time confessionals.
• [25:09] - [26:41] – The joys and anxieties of spontaneous NYC social life.
• [27:08] - [29:37] – Alcohol, party culture changes, addiction fears.
• [42:42] - [43:39] – Drinking in public, cutting loose, “buzz ball” adventure.
• [51:50] - [52:23] – On NYC’s endless possibility and construction conspiracies.
• [54:07] - [54:44] – Never-kissed running gag.

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Overall Tone & Style

The episode is raw, unfiltered, and intentionally chaotic, featuring a mix of absurdism, candid vulnerability, and low-key philosophical musing—all filtered through Enya and Drew’s affectionate, sibling-like antagonism. Their style is irreverent, self-deprecating, and marked by rapid-fire transitions between bits, serious reflection, and surreal nonsensical jokes. Fans of Emergency Intercom will find this episode to be a quintessential, densely packed experience of the duo’s offbeat world.

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For New Listeners

If you're new to Emergency Intercom, expect a comedic, meandering conversation that’s as much about the existential dilemmas of young adulthood as it is about poking fun at influencer culture and everyday absurdities. This episode is a love letter to New York—that both celebrates its chaos and marvels at its beauty—while examining friendship, partying, and the surreal inner lives of two very online people.

Transcript

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

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[Maggie Freeling]

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[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

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[Maggie Freeling]

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[Ana Ortiz]

It's Ana Ortiz and I'm Markin Delicato. You might know us as Hilda and.

[Justin]

Justin from Ugly Betty.

[Ana Ortiz]

Welcome to our new podcast, Viva Betty. We're rewatching from start to finish and getting into all the fashions, the drama and the behind the scenes moments that you've never heard before.

[Justin]

But you were still bartending.

[Ana Ortiz]

I didn't know that. The bar back is like, is that you and I turn around and it's a commercial for Betty. And I was like, I gotta go. I quit. Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio.

[Justin]

App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Narrator (Chinatown Sting)]

In early 1988, federal agents race to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.

[Justin]

We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.

[Ana Ortiz]

Five, six white people pushed me in the car. I'm going, what the hell?

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

Basically, your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. All you gotta do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it. She was very upset, crying. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw.

[Ana Ortiz]

The flash of light.

[Narrator (Chinatown Sting)]

Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

What's up, everybody? It's snacks from the Trap nerds. And all October long, we're bringing you the horror.

[Justin]

Boogity, boogity, boogity. We kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first.

[Justin]

And it's the return of Tony's horror show side quest, written and narrated by yours, Trul. We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

And we'll cap it off with a.

[Justin]

Horror movie battle royale.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

Open your free Ahar radio app and search Trap Nerds podcast and listen now.

[Ana Ortiz]

Guys.

[Justin]

And it's true.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh my gosh.

[Justin]

We're on the streets of New York. It's a beautiful, beautiful Sunday evening.

[Ana Ortiz]

Sunday afternoon, actually. It is really late. It's about to be 7pm and it's like that time of year where it's already getting dark again too early, and it makes me want to kill myself in a very special way.

[Justin]

And it's very cloudy and gorgeous and stunning.

[Ana Ortiz]

Should we walk slower so our cameraman isn't, like, jogging?

[Justin]

Like, birds?

[Ana Ortiz]

Like, he's, like, really scared.

[Justin]

Guys, I'm just used to walking on the streets. Hey, I'm walking here, you know?

[Ana Ortiz]

So we walk fast. People, like, people are always like, oh, my God, are you guys from here? Just, like, by our nature and our pace and the way we navigate. Actually, we had a really very obvious neither of us are from here moment because we were waiting for an Uber and Drew standing in the street, and these two teenagers thought Drew was staring at them. And the teenager didn't even say anything, like, necessarily rude. I don't know if it was supposed to be a dig, but he just looked at. Drew was like, you look like you just came in from Miami. And, like, I had a very, like, you know, the clip of re.

[Justin]

I didn't know he said that. I thought he said, I'm not from here, I'm from Miami. That's what I thought.

[Ana Ortiz]

He. I think he said something about that and then looked at you and then, like, he was like, I'm not from here. Like, and then he was like, are you? He said something about la, but he was just, like, talking. I don't know what his point was. It was like a younger kid who had to have been, like, 15. But I felt like Rihanna at the leading Gaga concert when Lady Gaga says, show me your teeth. Because when he said the Miami thing, I just, like, wasn't paying attention.

[Justin]

I go, it was like your activation from Miami.

[Ana Ortiz]

And it, like, decentered him and destabilized him in a crazy way where instead of bullying us continuously, he just, like, stopped his bike and watched us get into our Uber and didn't say a single word to us again.

[Justin]

Then I yelled, you're not even from Brooklyn. And he didn't check in with me, which you have to do if you come to Brooklyn. Like, you have to check in with me, and, like, most people don't. And I let it slide, and that's on me.

[Ana Ortiz]

Let's stand to the side.

[Justin]

But, like, wait, why?

[Ana Ortiz]

So we can let people pass. Oh, I'm like, I'm a. What's it called? I'm a conscious Thinker. I live in the present. I'm very. I'm very. I don't attach myself to worldly goods because I am earthly.

[Justin]

No, we know you've left your iPad, your wallet, your iPhone, your vape. Literally, any technology or any form of identification that Enya's had on this trip has been left somewhere. Like, we. She left her iPad in our hotel, and then we transferred hotels, and she still hasn't picked it up. And then.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, because it's in hands, they need identification to get it.

[Justin]

Then she left her wallet, and I.

[Ana Ortiz]

Have tracking on it, so they're not.

[Maggie Freeling]

Going to do nothing.

[Ana Ortiz]

Funny. I'll come after you.

[Justin]

She left her wallet in the Uber that got returned safely. That guy was a saint.

[Ana Ortiz]

Really Lucky.

[Justin]

Came up on $40 for Enya's fault.

[Ana Ortiz]

I gave him $40 for having to do a whole goddamn drive around to give me my. My wallet back. We should move over. There's a child on a bike. And I really don't want, like, the intimidation tactic, because although I, like, don't attach myself to, like, worldly technologies like you, and I lose all my devices, right? Or it's not a bike. It's like a scooter. See, Drew would never survive here. I just have no.

[Justin]

I don't give a sensational eye. I take up space just as much as everybody else takes up space.

[Ana Ortiz]

That has nothing to do with the fact that you're not, like, paying attention or maybe. Oh, the streets, the streets are alive.

[Justin]

And then. And then we had coffee this morning, and Enya left her phone in the booth of the coffee place, and guess what? Dubsteps.

[Ana Ortiz]

It just has his angels protecting me because a man ran out of the cafe and was like, hey, is this your phone? And I don't know if you heard what he said, but I think he said that he recognized it was me because of the COVID I don't know if you, like, picked that up. Did you? Did anybody pick that up? No, because of my wallpaper. It's my Blythe doll. Drew got me of myself, and thankfully, I was wearing my glasses, so I looked just like the picture. I'm sure he thought I looked like a doll. In a way, he was flirting with me, which is something that just happens to me all the time.

[Justin]

Why are we here in New York.

[Ana Ortiz]

Fashion Week? Hey, Fashion Week.

[Justin]

The streets are alive, y'. All.

[Ana Ortiz]

That's Austin Butler zooming off to the Bottega Veneta X super dry collab that's happening for opening of Rocky's Matcha Cafe.

[Justin]

Is that something for real happening?

[Ana Ortiz]

No, but didn't it sound.

[Justin]

That sounds so real. That's like a tri. Brand activation to get you to buy more.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. We're getting to a place where, like, we have to start asking what brand's sexual identity is, because I'm starting to believe most brands are polyamorous.

[Justin]

Oh, wow.

[Ana Ortiz]

And I grew up thinking they were more monogamous.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

So it's like, odd to me the way they're all like. They're kind of like swingers.

[Justin]

Now everybody's collabing with everybody.

[Ana Ortiz]

Who should we collab with?

[Justin]

And supreme is the ringleader, and supreme.

[Ana Ortiz]

Set up the system.

[Justin]

Supreme is a Supreme witch.

[Ana Ortiz]

I think I'm gonna, for my last venture before I leave New York, go to supreme and pick a random person and say, pick anything. I'm gonna get you 10 of them and just see what happens. And I'm not gonna get it. Has anybody ever done that? Like, gone up, like, done a prank where they gone up to people and be like, oh, pick anything you want. I'm gonna buy it and get them to the cash.

[Justin]

Yeah, that's 100. And then walked. That's like a Nathan for you bit. Wait, a Nathan for you episode where he has a spin wheel out front and he's like, oh, spin the wheel. And whatever you land on, I'll go in and buy it. And then. Or you win it or something like that. And then they spin the wheel and they go in and then he makes them buy it. And at the cash register is like a very starving child. And you would be a bad person if you didn't end up buying it. It's just like, it makes you feel guilty.

[Ana Ortiz]

It's kind of what the donation thing feels like at stores. I'm not doing it. Imagine how pissed you'd be if you were in the background of a stupid ass podcast like this one. Everyone here already has to get terrorized all week by every influencer who's come into town to be like, look at my shoes, look at my shirt, look at my pants, and look at us. No different than the rest. Honestly. Life is all about look. I was going to say to you earlier, there's one. That's Drew. Where's Drew? Oh, right there.

[Justin]

Cute. The one. Oh, yeah, the one with the rock hard abs. Right?

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. And the gate.

[Justin]

That's why. That's why is I'm the one under.

[Ana Ortiz]

Here that's all knocked out and up because I'm about to go crazy off this buzz ball. We really wanted to get cut waters. Because I just felt like a New York vibe. A cut water drinking a gut water on the water. New York.

[Justin]

What? I'm trying to think what's happened to me this the past few days. Oh, I went to the gay bars of New York. I went to Animal Absolutely Berserk. And I went to the Lexingborough or whatever. The. The Lex. Lex Lexi.

[Ana Ortiz]

Dude, you don't know anywhere like.

[Justin]

No, I don't.

[Ana Ortiz]

Genuinely. Does not know anywhere he goes. He can't document it. He can't remember it. He doesn't remember what he watches. And what's crazy is you ask more questions than any human. Like you were the most like, inquisitive person in terms of random information.

[Justin]

No, I know a lot. A little about a lot. It sounds beautiful on the mics. Guys, we're at a zoo. For audio listeners only. We walked. We bought a zoo. We bought a zoo. Surprise.

[Ana Ortiz]

Wait, okay, okay. Walk a little closer. Okay, do you hear. Do you hear what the gift might be?

[Justin]

Wait, a gift?

[Ana Ortiz]

I bought you something and it's huge.

[Justin]

What'd you buy me?

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, it starts with a Z.

[Justin]

A zebra.

[Ana Ortiz]

No. Okay, think about a lot of them.

[Justin]

A zoo?

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah.

[Justin]

You bought me a zoo?

[Ana Ortiz]

Cover your eyes, you're gonna see a zoo. I'm. This is your self tape. Like, people have no imagination.

[Justin]

Oh, my God.

[Ana Ortiz]

That's what happens when you use chat jeebs.

[Justin]

Well, no, I just literally had no idea what the was happening. Just.

[Ana Ortiz]

I was just like.

[Justin]

I was even too exoteric for me.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, I just. I don't live on this plane. I actually think I'm losing it. I think I'm gonna get like, really, really gnarly spiritual psychosis.

[Justin]

Yeah, that's what's been happening to me every single night.

[Ana Ortiz]

That's what you would think if spiritual psychosis was happening. I guess that. No. Literally don't even realize it's happening.

[Justin]

I literally would. Every single night at like 3am the devil's at where, mind you, I enter like a level of like, religious psychosis.

[Ana Ortiz]

The devil's hour.

[Justin]

Yeah, like three.

[Ana Ortiz]

Wouldn't it be like six? Six, six, six.

[Justin]

Oh, six, six, six a.m. but no, I've been like, entering. Look at the sunset.

[Ana Ortiz]

I know. Oh, my God. Wait, maybe we go in front of you so you don't have to walk backwards.

[Justin]

Yeah. Or I don't know if I'll be able to do that.

[Ana Ortiz]

No, no, not us walk backwards. It's like you behind us. Whatever. You're gonna get hit by a car, bro. A Motorcycle, actually. But do you think you would die from the impact of a motorcycle if it's going that fast?

[Justin]

Yes, you can.

[Ana Ortiz]

You.

[Justin]

You wouldn't die, but you can't.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, I guess that's, like, the thing. My biggest fear is that if I.

[Justin]

Wait, let me finish. Let me finish what I was saying.

[Ana Ortiz]

I hit the person and then they hit their head and they die.

[Justin]

Let me finish what I was saying. I was. Every single night I'll lay awake in bed at 3am and enter like, the most intense religious psychosis where I'm like, oh, my God, the end is near. I need to start praying to God, bitch. I'm not even a fucking Christian like that. But, like, damn, if I start praying, like, maybe I won't end up in eternal damnation.

[Ana Ortiz]

I sometimes see my OCD convinces me that if you start praying, you're actually doing the opposite because you're only talking to God when you, like, need something. Because. Did you ever hear that? You heard that a lot growing up, right?

[Justin]

Yeah. Ew. I'm getting dripped out. I'm getting slimed out. In New York, they just slimed me out. What the.

[Ana Ortiz]

They're sliming all over you? No, I'm not kidding. One time I was wearing my glasses and I was walking down. I don't know where, probably in Chinatown and someone's acquaire anymore. That's between my eyes and my lenses. And I sprayed my face with hand sanitizer.

[Justin]

Is it raining?

[Ana Ortiz]

No. Well, why do I. Oh, there's like, no clouds above you. Like, is it raining? Where would the. Like, where would the rain.

[Justin]

I have a hat on and I can't see up unless I look up. And I asked that before I look.

[Ana Ortiz]

No one can see up unless they look up.

[Justin]

No, you can, like, look up with your eyes. I'm saying I turned my head up. Whatever.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, I'm looking up with my soul because I'm only on the up from here.

[Justin]

But yeah, I've been praying every Single night at 3am what do you pray about? Just. It's really selfish prayers. I'm like, make sure I don't end up in hell.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, what?

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

You're worried about going to hell? Yes, dude, I just can't be bothered. I just don't. I also, maybe that is proof I'm a decent person because I've never once have I been like, damn, I'm actually going to hell. I think you actually have to do. Was that one of the scary. Kill.

[Justin]

Kill the lanternflies. Those are my op number one. They're all over our hotel balcony and it's so fucking freaky.

[Ana Ortiz]

Gross.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Dude.

[Ana Ortiz]

Drew tried to like play with me and say there was one on me and I literally got so mad.

[Justin]

It wasn't even like a joke. Like, it. Look at the sunset. Are you actually, I'm gonna crash out. Hello, Hello. Hello. Hello.

[Ana Ortiz]

I want.

[Justin]

Hello. Hello.

[Ana Ortiz]

Steal this dog. Yeah, when I steal this dog. Gorgeous. That dog has eyes of a human. Oh, my gosh. Actually, that brings me to an amazing topic. I saw this woman today who she does pet readings. I don't really understand it because I think she interviews. Yeah, she's like a psychic interviewing your animal, your aminal.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Wow.

[Justin]

Oh, no. Every time I'm coming to New York, I'm like, I don't want to come to New York. And then I get to New York and I'm like, wow, I love New York.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. I get here and I'm like, that's it.

[Justin]

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[Ana Ortiz]

All I know is what I've been told. And that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[Maggie Freeling]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Maggie Freeling]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Justin]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Maggie Freeling]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Justin]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y' all said.

[Ana Ortiz]

They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Maggie Freeling]

From Lava for Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Narrator (Chinatown Sting)]

In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.

[Justin]

We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles, and you name it.

[Narrator (Chinatown Sting)]

But what they find is not what they expected.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

Basically, your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said, yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years.

[Narrator (Chinatown Sting)]

Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw.

[Ana Ortiz]

The flash of light.

[Narrator (Chinatown Sting)]

Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Poynter, Chair of Women's health and gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York. On this show, I'll be talking to top researchers and top clinicians, asking them your burning questions and bringing that information about women's health and midlife directly to you.

[Menopause Expert]

100% of women go through menopause. It can be such a struggle for our quality of life. But even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it?

[Maggie Freeling]

The types of symptoms that people talk.

[Ana Ortiz]

About is forgetting everything.

[Maggie Freeling]

I never used to forget things. They're concerned that one, they have dementia and the other one is, do I have adhd?

[Ana Ortiz]

There is unprecedented promise with regard to cannabis and cannabinoids to sleep better, to have less pain, to have better mood, and also to have better day to day life.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening.

[Ana Ortiz]

I get here and I'm. I'm silenced because I'm so amazed. How did they build this city so fast? Did you know that they only started building buildings this tall in 2010? Which.

[Justin]

That's what's been freaking me out lately.

[Ana Ortiz]

They got all this up in the span of like 3 years, I would say. And it was all discounted from. No.

[Justin]

Oh, no, no, no, no. You don't want to talk about 9 11.

[Ana Ortiz]

I mean, actually probably really don't.

[Justin]

You don't want to talk about 9 11.

[Ana Ortiz]

Wait, I'm like, should we post up somewhere?

[Justin]

Yeah, let's keep walking a little bit.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, but basically there's this woman who. She will interview your cat.

[Justin]

I don't like how.

[Ana Ortiz]

So get down and interview your cat, bro.

[Justin]

Oh, eat the kitty.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, that was the joke I was like, waiting for you to pick up on. But yeah, I saw her talk about this one cat that she was saying was like an evil cat and that it was a demon cat. And she, she said that she also kind of rude. She said to the cat that she hated talking to the cat.

[Justin]

Oh, wow.

[Ana Ortiz]

Which I think is rude because she said, but the cat was admitting to being a demon.

[Justin]

That's tough.

[Ana Ortiz]

Having, like, the cat was saying that it is both evil and good. It. It shares both of the intentions. Anyway, I really want her to talk to Azul because she sent this woman, like a transcription of the whole interview she had with her cat. And the woman was like, oh, my God. And this is honestly making me laugh so hard because it's such a real description. We call our cat a demon cat because, like, he is a demon, but he's like, she's a good boy. Or like whatever the hell the gender of the cat is which. Should we start?

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

Should we go down there and swim?

[Justin]

I think we should set up camera here facing that way and just like perch up on this, like in Japan. Okay, cut.

[Ana Ortiz]

Hey, but yeah, I want to get Azul's reading done because she seemed pretty accurate. But also, it's kind of insane how you can really sell anything as long as you have passion. Because I watched her whole video I want to see how long this video of her talking about this random cat I don't know is. I watched this whole video. Not in double speed, not anything. I just had it propped up and was staring at my phone. Oh my God.

[Justin]

Hello.

[Narrator (Chinatown Sting)]

So this was the worst animal communication.

[Ana Ortiz]

Session that I've ever done.

[Justin]

Oh, wait, I've seen. I've seen people do this before.

[Ana Ortiz]

Dude, this is 10 minutes. Oh my God. I watched it on.

[Justin]

Oh, your attention span is lit.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, I do have a pretty good attention span.

[Justin]

I can't lie.

[Ana Ortiz]

Like, I haven't been on my phone. Oh, can I see your screen time? Because the thing last time in New York is somehow you still had an insane screen time, I don't think for some reason. I assume it is because Drew has been staying up every night till like.

[Justin]

5Am oh my God, you're right.

[Ana Ortiz]

So like there's no way your screen time is in like diabolical.

[Justin]

Yeah, it's horrible. It's like literally terrible.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay, you know what's up is 11 hours really isn't your worst by any means. Wait, I think at my screen time the other day was really bad and I almost cried showing it to you.

[Justin]

Oh, you had a 14. You had like 15 hours. You. Yours was higher than mine.

[Ana Ortiz]

Wait, where the hell is this? 16 hours and 10.

[Justin]

That is crazy.

[Ana Ortiz]

16 hours and 10 minutes is pretty up.

[Justin]

Dude, that is genuinely insane.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, I mean, eight hours of it, dude. Okay, six of those hours was on YouTube. I do remember that was the. Maybe I talked about this on the last episode. No, I think I was trying to explain it to somebody else. I was trying to explain to somebody in real life while why it was so high. But I watched a bunch of movies at once. Yeah, TikTok has seven hours. But I was doing research, you know, I was watching so many videos not on double speed for 10 minutes. It was really a lot of work. And Drew's been having the best time in New York without me. Every time we've tried to key together, it turns into like the most like, wow. I think I'm just a vibe killer for Drew's New York life. If you lived here alone, I think I would lose you.

[Justin]

Yeah, you would. Like, I literally love it. Like, I love just like mobbing around solo. Cuz I'm like something I do like about New York, which this isn't a hot take, but it's like you go outside, you run into friends, and then you spend the day. You don't have to make plans and like a finite plan Scares the ever living out of me like that, like, or like a plan with a time to meet somewhere. Like the three hours leading up to it, I'm like, oh, I need to not do this. I need to not do this. And I think my mic is not picking up my audio at all. So that's cool. But I like New York because I never make plans. I just run into people and I have no time to ruminate or have anxiety over any of.

[Ana Ortiz]

Is funny though, because you did the. I feel like the best night you had started off with a plan that you were like not ruminating on, but you were like, am I you going? You went to dinner alone. Which is also like, for some reason that felt crazy.

[Justin]

Like you go, I was inviting you.

[Ana Ortiz]

I know, I know that. Oh, I know that. I'm always invited. I don't worry about not being invited. I'm always invited. I'm actually always hosting the party. Weirdly enough, that's actually what it feels like. I can't lie. Every party I've been to, I feel like somehow I become part time host because I need everybody in a room to have a good time if I'm there. Because if I over observe someone's interactions and I feel like someone made someone uncomfortable, I literally want to kill myself and air the whole fucking place. No.

[Justin]

Like, I don't know how people host parties. Like specifically house parties. Like hosting a party at a separate venue, I'm like, t like, do that. But like, hosting a party out of your house is so fucking scary. Like, bitches, like, be pissing in the corners. Like, I've pissed in the corner of a house party before.

[Ana Ortiz]

What?

[Justin]

Yeah, I was like, like 15.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, okay.

[Justin]

And then that doesn't count because I'm.

[Ana Ortiz]

Like, what was the house party you went to? Like actually like the X Party. The Project X party.

[Justin]

Basically every party in 2015 and 2016 was the project X party.

[Ana Ortiz]

I guess. Yeah. Because everybody was trying to remake that. Now what are people trying to remake?

[Justin]

And people were just genuinely happy. And it wasn't, like, about escaping reality. It was about adding to reality.

[Ana Ortiz]

Reality.

[Justin]

And now to go to a house party, it's to black out so you don't have to deal with what's going on.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

What's going on?

[Ana Ortiz]

What's going on? I mean, everybody's back to partying because there's literally nothing.

[Justin]

We feel like it's a recession.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. Like, it is so insane to see stats about drinking in our age range jumping up and like consumption of everything jumping up. Because it's like, wow.

[Justin]

Well, see, I'm hearing conflicting reports.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay, right.

[Justin]

Someone's telling me that Gen Z isn't drinking, drinking. And then other people are telling me that Gen Z is drinking. And I'm like, which is it? I like to believe that Gen Z isn't drinking because like, I don't think we're drinking as much, but I don't.

[Ana Ortiz]

I wonder.

[Justin]

It would make sense if people were drinking more because the world is an evil, dark sided, evil place.

[Ana Ortiz]

I mean, I'm sure the stats I've seen definitely allocate for the fact that we were in a pandemic and there were years where like obviously drinking had to have been on a dipping.

[Justin]

That's what I was explaining.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, whatever. So that makes sense. But I'm also like, I don't know, I feel like everyone's drinking. But also it's. We're here for Fashion Week, so it's hard to like. Yeah, but even back home. No, even back home, literally everyone went out. Even all my friends who did it because we didn't travel for the summer, we didn't do Euro Summer, but even all of our friends who stayed home with us. It was like, like, wow. But I guess my idea of partying is like twice a week we end up at someone's house after dinner and we've all had three drinks and we're like that.

[Justin]

Yeah. I have re entered my alcoholic arc, which is kind of lit. No, not actually. But I have like found myself like excited to drink, which has never, ever, ever, ever, ever been the case for me ever. Like now I'm like, oh, like I'm looking forward to having a drink tonight, which is fucking scary. Yeah, That's a slippery slope for Mr. Drew Phillips with the DNA that I got. Yeah, I mean, I gotta chill the fuck out.

[Ana Ortiz]

I definitely do worry like often about the fact that I come from like an extremely addictive gene and I'm for sure playing with fire. But listen, cats don't know not to go buy a candle till they get their whiskers burnt a little bit, you know?

[Justin]

You know? You know like the saying, curiosity killed the cat.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah.

[Justin]

I literally experienced that for the first time last night. And I can't say it publicly, but curiosity killed the cat. And that's what kind of ignited my spiritual side or my religious psychosis last night.

[Ana Ortiz]

I think kind of anything, anything off the beaten path of what your anxious brain has assumed could possibly happen will send you down a spirit.

[Justin]

Yeah. And no, I run simulation in my brain and I can legitimately. Like, the thing is, is no one can get by me. Like, that's the thing. I was talking about this with Orion. Like, if someone does something that they know would hurt my feelings, I will find out. The universe will bring it to me. Like, that's the thing is, like I don't even really look for it. I don't even have to look for it. The way it landed in my lap last night was fucking crazy.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm so curious. You're so annoying. All I know is what I've been told. And that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[Maggie Freeling]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Maggie Freeling]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Justin]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Maggie Freeling]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer. And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Justin]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y' all said.

[Ana Ortiz]

They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Maggie Freeling]

From Lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in in order to find someone to blame.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Narrator (Chinatown Sting)]

In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.

[Justin]

We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.

[Narrator (Chinatown Sting)]

But what they find is not what they expected.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

Basically, your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said, yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years.

[Narrator (Chinatown Sting)]

Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw.

[Ana Ortiz]

The flash of light.

[Narrator (Chinatown Sting)]

Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Poynter, Chair of Women's health and gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. On this show, I'll be talking to top researchers and top clinicians, asking them your burning questions and bringing that information about women's health and midlife directly to you.

[Menopause Expert]

100% of women go through menopause. It can be such a struggle for our quality of life. But even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it?

[Ana Ortiz]

The types of symptoms that people talk about is forgetting everything.

[Maggie Freeling]

I never used to forget things. They're concerned that one, they have dementia and the other one is do I have adhd?

[Ana Ortiz]

There is unprecedented promise with regard to cannabis and cannabinoids to sleep better, to have less pain, to have better mood, and also to have better day to day life.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you're listening now.

[Maggie Freeling]

Hey, guys, it's Stephanie, Beatriz and Melissa Fumaro. And this is more Better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you, your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals. And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes.

[Ana Ortiz]

God, that sucks so hard though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies?

[Maggie Freeling]

Yeah, we had so much fun last season. Laughing, crying, talking to some new and old friends.

[Ana Ortiz]

Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing? Oh, yeah. And I was like, can I also hug them? I'm like, this has no friends.

[Maggie Freeling]

This time around, we are.

[Ana Ortiz]

Say it, Melissa.

[Maggie Freeling]

Should I Getting a little more better.

[Justin]

Oh, finally.

[Maggie Freeling]

It's all the dressing room talk we loved in season one. All the things.

[Narrator (Chinatown Sting)]

Because aren't we all trying to get.

[Maggie Freeling]

A little more better? Listen to more better on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Justin]

We're on the move again, y'.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

All.

[Ana Ortiz]

What's crazy is I unironically. Unironically. Oh, my gosh. It's literally so pretty on this goddamn planet.

[Justin]

Are you freaking kidding me, guys? I had so much to say and now I have nothing to say. Isn't it funny how that works?

[Ana Ortiz]

Because my mind is being blown by this.

[Justin]

Yeah, that's what I was about to say. Maybe sometimes just take in the view, guys. Take in the view with us. Look at all the little birds out there.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, my gosh, it's packed.

[Justin]

The one thing is, if you say words with P in deafens the listeners. Just fun fact.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, that's literally not my problem.

[Justin]

Problem. That's not.

[Ana Ortiz]

My New York is literally insane. I can't believe some people live here their whole life. Like, you genuinely have to be such a specific kind of person to get that done. If Jimmy Fallon came up behind you right now and said that he would give you a hundred thousand dollars to.

[Justin]

Jump into this sexual falls, yes, I would.

[Ana Ortiz]

Everything has to be sexual with you. It's so weird. Just FYI, like, if you want to have sex with like other people and not me anymore, just like, I don't know, just say that.

[Justin]

Because you don't even use water. Yes.

[Ana Ortiz]

For 100k.

[Justin]

Yes. I would do that for 500.

[Ana Ortiz]

I guess. That is too much. That's way too much.

[Justin]

I would do it for 500.

[Ana Ortiz]

I think this might be some of the dirtiest water you can let your body touch, though.

[Justin]

Like, I mean, I would assume literally eat like a garbage disposal. Like, my skin is. You have titanium. Thank you.

[Ana Ortiz]

No, but that's why it would suck. Yeah, I don't think your body is equipped to handle whatever the is in this water. Dude, I would put money on the fact that at least one person shits in this water. If not a day, a week.

[Justin]

Yeah. What is in this water?

[Ana Ortiz]

I don't know. It's just genuinely horrifying.

[Justin]

Do you think there's, like, evil fish in the water?

[Ana Ortiz]

Evil fish?

[Justin]

Like radioactive evil fish.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, my gosh. Is that a thing? No, I'm not getting, like, I'm sure.

[Justin]

I had an evil fish growing up in my fish tank. I got a. We should get jack knife.

[Ana Ortiz]

Talk to the fish here.

[Justin]

No, I got a jackknife clownfish. And I put it in a tank full of my little baby puffer fish. And I had like a. An assorted freshwater tank. And this, every single night for like two weeks straight, would slay one of my babies until he ended up being the last creature in there. And that's how I found out he was the one killing them. Because he would do it under the.

[Ana Ortiz]

Guise he was playing among us.

[Justin]

Yes. Like, he was eliminating. Oh, my God.

[Ana Ortiz]

The other fish were probably so scared. Like, oh, my God, this guy. They probably thought you were the torturer.

[Justin]

No, they thought I was like, getting off on it. Like, ours.

[Ana Ortiz]

Like, fish. Kind of dumb, though. Yeah.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

Because, like, squid and octopus are geniuses. Yeah, they're smart.

[Justin]

I ate squid for the first time in a very long time. Like, I love squid in Malibu, and I. There was not a bite of it where I wasn't thinking about me eating an intelligent creature.

[Ana Ortiz]

And you kept chewing and I kept.

[Justin]

Chewing and I kept chewing and chewing. Yeah, it was delicious.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

Like, ooh.

[Justin]

But see, the. The thing is, is it kind of reminds me of, like, tendons on a chicken wing. And that's. You like that?

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, I like that. Wait, that's my.

[Justin]

That's Right there. That's my.

[Ana Ortiz]

Right there.

[Justin]

But, yeah, like, a tendon on a chicken wing will legitimately ruin my entire afternoon. It'll ruin my day. A what Attendant on a chicken wing will ruin.

[Ana Ortiz]

I love. I'm not kidding. There's nothing I love more than crunching on bones. Like, I want to eat a piece of chicken.

[Justin]

You were that food up.

[Ana Ortiz]

I want to. I want to, like, eat the bone. I want to eat the cartilage. I really like that part of the chicken leg where it's, like, the little floppy, gummy part that you can peel up, and then it takes off the whole calf part of a drumstick. Oh, my God. That little floppy part is delicious. Love the texture. I think I'm a texture eater.

[Justin]

I've decided the thing is, I would not get LASIK eye surgery again. I think the only reason I thought of that was because you said, like, peeling up a flap on a chicken bone, and that's what they did. In my eye. They literally go up in your eye and play games in it. Like, it's crazy. Like, I literally saw a disco inside.

[Ana Ortiz]

Of my IRL operator.

[Justin]

Yeah, no, like, for real. Like, they, like, peel up layers of your eye and, like, shine lasers in it. Like. And then also, like, what's more sick.

[Ana Ortiz]

About the whole thing is the fact that they record it and then they. They sell it to you because you didn't even get it for free. Right. Or do they give it to you for free?

[Justin]

Get what for free?

[Ana Ortiz]

The video of your lasik.

[Justin]

No, you get it for free.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh.

[Justin]

They. They treat it like a ride at Six Flags. You should have just lied also, by the way, someone just started doing that every single ride I've been on where they take a picture and then they make you pay for it after the person's just giving it to me for free almost every single time.

[Ana Ortiz]

That's pretty privilege.

[Justin]

Yeah, no, literally. And it's not, like, they know who I am. It's just literally, they just, like, see how gorgeous I am. It's crazy. Like, they see how beautiful I am.

[Ana Ortiz]

No, they probably feel bad for you. Yeah, they see because you're usually the one who's alone on a ride.

[Justin]

I'm the one alone. Or I'm the one. Never mind.

[Ana Ortiz]

But, yeah, I really can't wait to eat some. I think I might have. I've been craving chicken. But my favorite part about eating chicken is genuinely just chewing on the bone.

[Justin]

Bones.

[Ana Ortiz]

Like, I'm not kidding. It's so fun. Like, to me, steak isn't that appetizing. Because it's not like a game. Like, I like foods that are.

[Justin]

Like, foods that leave evidence behind are criminal. Like a shell after eating a clam or whatever the. Or like, a bone left on a plate. Like, seeing a plate of bones, like, skinning is. It's literally evil. Like, it's so creepy seeing bones all over.

[Ana Ortiz]

Like a full fried fish that you have to, like, claw it with your.

[Justin]

Hand, leaving the skeleton in the skull.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. And you have to put lime or something all over it to make the skin a little, like, softer so it's easier to tear it open. And then you almost choke on the bone at the restaurant. But it's okay. The waiters don't even bat an eye. Everyone almost chokes on the fish here. It's a thing. Oh, my God.

[Justin]

No. I'm laughing because every single chew of that gum.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, it's being reported.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

I mean, sure.

[Justin]

Asmr. Let's drink our buzz balls.

[Ana Ortiz]

Isn't it illegal to drink in public?

[Justin]

I have pretty.

[Ana Ortiz]

I say that like I don't smoke weed everywhere I go. On this world. On this world.

[Justin]

This is my second buzz ball ever in my entire life.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm not kidding. I don't think I've ever had a buzz ball.

[Justin]

This is my second one, and I'm.

[Ana Ortiz]

Really bummed that we're not having a cut water. Like, having.

[Justin]

I wanted a water.

[Ana Ortiz]

But I think, dude, we are dummies. Like, we saw. That started because we literally saw.

[Justin]

I saw Steve Lacy drinking them, and I was like, oh, I want one of those so bad.

[Ana Ortiz]

I saw a tik tok of a woman telling an awful story that I'm really sorry about.

[Justin]

Ooh, Cheers.

[Ana Ortiz]

Wait.

[Justin]

Y' all are crazy people. Actually.

[Ana Ortiz]

Whoa, whoa. Okay, this one isn't, like, the worst.

[Justin]

This is maybe the worst.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, hell no, dude. Oh, wait. Guys, guys, guys, guys.

[Justin]

Cosmo and Wanda.

[Ana Ortiz]

Wicked.

[Justin]

It's wicked.

[Ana Ortiz]

Wicked comes out soon. That's what we could talk about.

[Justin]

Also, we can talk about Rain's performance.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, my God. I felt like a happy mother, and I cried because.

[Justin]

We'll insert the clip. I. I'm talking into the buzzball. Like, it's the mind. We'll insert the clip of Rain that I got. Also, her drummer was quite possibly the coolest person I've ever.

[Ana Ortiz]

He was awesome.

[Justin]

Seen in my life. Y' all are crazy for these, by the way. I know I'm not finishing that.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, if you finish it, you'll be blackout.

[Justin]

I'm finishing it.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, my God, guys, it's seriously beautiful.

[Justin]

Me just being like, I'm teetering on the edge of alcoholism and then opening a buzz ball and drinking it. Don't be concerned, y'.

[Ana Ortiz]

All. Dude, you know what's funny is, like, the only time I think I ever have been like. Like, okay. Because of course, people will always have their assumptions about people online. But the video of you knocked out on the sidewalk, the discourse over that. Some people talk about me like, I literally. Like, I roofied you and put you on the sidewalk.

[Justin]

No, it was giving. Bad friend.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, well, yeah, guys, it was giving. 22 year old. Like, no, it was literally like 20.

[Justin]

I. I haven't seen the discourse of that, but I can imagine what they're saying is, like, it's mainly when it.

[Ana Ortiz]

Lands on, like, a random side of the Internet, which is, like, understandable also. Actually, maybe I can reframe this. I can reframe this. It's kind of sweet to know that most people now are under the common knowledge, take care of alcohol poisoning is actually deathly serious. And to take it more serious.

[Justin]

And the hospital did not give a.

[Ana Ortiz]

I mean, yeah, because you would. You.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

You.

[Ana Ortiz]

But wouldn't have been fine. You definitely needed that iv. You needed that, though. You needed that, though. The thing is, you needed that, though.

[Justin]

You needed that, though. The thing is, like, laying there. I wish I could recreate that feeling because, like, you felt good. No, no, no, no. Like, you know how you can get addicted to bad things like masochism? Like, the feeling of, like, screaming inside your head and it not coming out of your mouth is that I'm literally just describing a K hole. Like, that's literally what that is. Like, never been in a K hole, but I'm imagining that's what it is. I'll never forget David Dobrik coming into an elevator and accusing us of doing ketamine and then being like, bro, it's like, you have marshmallows for Feet. And I was like, girl, I will never do that in my life. What is the point of ketamine? Sorry, now I'm just going on a.

[Ana Ortiz]

Tangent, but, like, I. I really don't.

[Justin]

Sideways like that. It's described as sideways.

[Ana Ortiz]

Sideways.

[Justin]

Does that mean like, uppers bring you up, downers bring you down? Ketamine makes you go sideways. I'm like, I don't want to be.

[Ana Ortiz]

In, like, lobotomy neutral mode. Like, why would you. Okay, see, now when you, like, it's.

[Justin]

Like associative, so it makes you dissociate.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

But why.

[Ana Ortiz]

Why are people doing that to go out. Does it make it like. Does within that.

[Justin]

Guys, if you've done com. Or done ketamine, if you've done a comment, if you've done a comment, leave ketamine in my pocket.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

That.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. No, I can't really. I don't really understand it.

[Justin]

Isn't it crazy that I'm gay?

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, it actually is.

[Justin]

Like, it literally is insane.

[Ana Ortiz]

It is. The older we get, it's like, no, it's dead serious. That's.

[Justin]

It's deadly. It's deadly serious. We were out last night with a buddy, and he looked at me and he was like, tonight was like the first night I saw you and you were gay in my head. And I was like, why? I was like, why? Also, the buddy is the cameraman and he's crying. But. But no, he looked at me in my face and was like, oh, it's just like, I saw your face. And I was like, oh, he's actually gay. And I was like, oh, so I have gay face now? I have gay face.

[Ana Ortiz]

What's crazy is I remember that whole conversation. I don't think I said a thing. I was just like. I just remember looking out the window.

[Justin]

And it's just like banging your head on the window.

[Ana Ortiz]

Like sitting in a car watching the world go by.

[Justin]

Guys, the drinks at Lexenborough or whatever, the gay bar in Green Point or wherever the. We were like, Jesus Christ.

[Ana Ortiz]

You need to. Where. Where did your notebook go? You had that notebook. Why don't you write down where you've been? You should at the end of the day, write down in your notes everywhere you've been. Actually.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Okay.

[Ana Ortiz]

No, it's not about being cute. You need to learn, like, I guess you're really good. I don't want anybody to take away from. You're just geographically.

[Justin]

It'Ll be a problem.

[Ana Ortiz]

I hope you are geographically disassociated and it's a really big problem. Mainly for the fact that you 100 will have dementia. I sadly assume a lot of people will from, like, vapes and everything that we do to ourselves and all the bad things. But you're definitely gonna be like a runner.

[Justin]

No. Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

Like, you're gonna be the kind of guy who's like, I'm going to the store. But you've never known where the store was.

[Justin]

Yeah, like, that's true. And then I'm gonna be found, like, face first in a ditch, like by like a younger, like 30 year old. And they're gonna be like, hey, are you okay? And be like, yeah, I'm at the grocery store. I'm good. I'm literally chill.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm at the grocery store. You're literally. Ah. You would never be at the grocery store.

[Justin]

No, because I don't dream of food. You know how people don't dream of labor. The rats are out. The rats are out.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Justin]

Guys.

[Ana Ortiz]

If I'm going to be. Actually, I am.

[Justin]

I went.

[Ana Ortiz]

To be honest, I have nothing to say because times are not lit right now. And if anybody's been around for a long time, of course, you know, my. My upbringing and whatnot. And very happily. I got to see my dad this weekend and it weirdly just made me super stressed. So that's what I've been up to. But not stressed. Like, it was sad to see him. I love my dad and I love spending time with him because he's also the funniest person on the planet, but.

[Justin]

Yeah. Your dad's gay.

[Ana Ortiz]

My dad is pretty gay.

[Justin]

He, like, pointed to my Issey Miyake jacket and was like, is that Issy? And I was like, yeah. I was like, how the do you know that? And then I realized, raised. Oh, that's a gay man. But I have a gay dad, too.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah.

[Justin]

Should we hook our dad? The best.

[Ana Ortiz]

The best people have gay dads. You know what's a up Thing is like, I would never want. I feel like all of our friends and even people watching everyone has like the parent that's like, unless you just by chance have two. Introverted.

[Justin]

Baseball has me up. Wait, I love alcohol.

[Ana Ortiz]

Hey, let's go get more drinks. No, no, no, no. I can't wait to have chicken and eat bones tonight. I literally like, I'm not kidding. If I could have a meal that like, in the middle of it, I'm like, pies and thighs and it's like bones and stuff. That's what I want.

[Justin]

Bones and all. Okay, Timothy Chalamet. Wait. Okay, Timothy Chalamet. And Tyler. Wait, was Tyler in bones and all?

[Ana Ortiz]

No, Taylor.

[Justin]

Russell the rat just ran past again.

[Ana Ortiz]

What was I gonna say? What was I gonna say? I forgot.

[Justin]

Who's Tyler? Oh, water make me swim make me hotter Wait, me? When I'm looking at the Hudson Bay.

[Ana Ortiz]

Last night he was like, all day yesterday, he was like, let's go dance. Let's go dance.

[Justin]

I wanted to dance.

[Ana Ortiz]

Wait, what if.

[Justin]

Can a girl not want to dance?

[Ana Ortiz]

What if. What if you change your flight? Okay, now that you've had a little alcohol in your system, let me sell you this image that you're gonna hate tomorrow. You're sober.

[Justin]

We're not gonna hate this.

[Ana Ortiz]

You're gon.

[Justin]

There's nowhere.

[Ana Ortiz]

You don't even know the thing.

[Justin]

There's nowhere to dance in New York.

[Ana Ortiz]

New York. The thing about New York is you don't even know where the night is going to take you. You go outside and it's like, literally. And that's why people love to come here. You could just, like, expand your world tenfold. Tenfold.

[Justin]

Okay, wait, the Hudson Bay is giving Tyla.

[Ana Ortiz]

Just make me swim, make me hide.

[Justin]

Damn, dude.

[Ana Ortiz]

So beautiful. I actually can't believe how quickly they got this city built.

[Justin]

I know. Also, like, it's scary how quickly the lights turned on. Okay, wait, so how did they all, in unison, turn the lights on to the city in New York?

[Ana Ortiz]

Is there a law that everybody has to turn their lights on at a certain time? Because every light just is, like, on now, just kind of naturally. It's so weird.

[Justin]

This is beautiful.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, it is really beautiful.

[Justin]

Wait, it's crazy that on this podcast we can literally do whatever the fuck we want. Like, we can put out the shittiest episode of all time and, like, people won't listen, and that's okay. But, like, we're allowed to do that.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, my God. Wait, I said something really amazing that religious people would hate to hear.

[Justin]

Oh, wait, actually, be careful because. Be careful because of 3:00am religious psychosis.

[Ana Ortiz]

No, no, no, no, no. It was actually.

[Justin]

No, it was drunk.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, okay. Next time I am too, cuz I'm ignoring you. Like, we're doing the thing where we're not even now that we're drunk, it's, like, not even talking.

[Justin]

And guess what? I'm ignoring everything you're saying. Famously. Famously. I'm two Sips Phillips.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, yeah, you are two Sips Phillips.

[Justin]

Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

What were we saying before that?

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

That.

[Ana Ortiz]

What were we saying? Right.

[Justin]

You have religious psychosis. Oh, or I have.

[Ana Ortiz]

I said next time somebody Says God is not a woman. Say, yeah, she isn't. Because a woman would never take on a job that she knows she can't do. Only a man would.

[Justin]

Oh, wow. Oh, we almost kissed. Guys. We've never. We've never for real kissed ever.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, we're like saving it. Like Mormons or something. It's like really weak.

[Justin]

No, because it will be special. We're gonna start building the hype now.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, we're gonna start building the foreplay is what we mean. We want. We want to build up the tension between this kiss so much that by the time we actually get to kissing, it's like, oh my God, that's it.

[Justin]

When we kiss, are we gonna kiss or are we gonna make out?

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm not putting your tongue in my mouth. And vice versa.

[Justin]

Wait, why?

[Ana Ortiz]

I just can't.

[Justin]

I can't really.

[Ana Ortiz]

I feel like we passed that. It's too funny. Like I. I just. I can't even see.

[Justin]

No, it's ridiculous. It's like literally ridiculous.

[Ana Ortiz]

This. It's like.

[Justin]

Should we kiss right now?

[Ana Ortiz]

It's too funny.

[Justin]

Kiss me. Where'd you. Babe, where'd you go?

[Ana Ortiz]

Hey.

[Justin]

Hey. Where'd you go?

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm right here.

[Justin]

I'm here for you.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm right here.

[Justin]

That's like a bit that me and Inya do all the time is when one of us like dissociate, we just grab. Where'd you go?

[Ana Ortiz]

Where'd you go? Where'd you go?

[Justin]

Wait, what are other bits we do all the time?

[Ana Ortiz]

We fake fight the most in public. Like that's kind of like.

[Justin]

You know what I'm realizing is like some of our fake fights, like, are what we really want to say, but it's like guised as a bit and like wash our hands, move on. Like it's never real. I mean, yeah, like, but that, that's awesome.

[Ana Ortiz]

Like, well, cuz it's just not worth the like. Cuz I think most of the time when that happens, it's. We're both just frustrated for no reason. It literally, like I was frustrated and.

[Justin]

I ran and got us buzz balls. See how I cure her frustration? See how I provide for my girl when she's sad? I get her alcohol.

[Ana Ortiz]

You got me alcohol. Thank you. I was saying cuz my head was hurting cuz I haven't had it in.

[Justin]

Like I was going to say she was like shaking and I was like, oh, she's getting the alcohol shake. So I got her alcohol, so I.

[Ana Ortiz]

Have to get some alcoh. All my.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

Sam.

[Maggie Freeling]

The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls girls came forward with a story.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcast Podcast.

[Ana Ortiz]

It's Anna Ortiz and I'm Mark and Delicato. You might know us as Hilda and.

[Justin]

Justin from Ugly Betty.

[Ana Ortiz]

Welcome to our new podcast, Viva Betty. We're rewatching the series from start to finish and getting into all the fashions, the drama and the behind the scenes moments that you've never heard before.

[Justin]

But you were still bartending.

[Ana Ortiz]

I didn't know that the carpac is.

[Snacks from Trap Nerds]

Like is that you and I turn.

[Ana Ortiz]

Around and it's a commercial for Betty. And I was like, I gotta go. I quit. Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio.

[Justin]

App, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you. When you think about emotion regulation, you're not gonna choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's outcome. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Complex problem solving takes effort. Listen to the Psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Poynter, Chair of Women's Health and Gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. I'll be talking to top researchers and clinicians and bringing vital information about midlife women's health health directly to you.

[Menopause Expert]

100% of women go through menopause. Even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it?

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.