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- [00:20]
Drew
So welcome to this episode. New Year's episode, we're recording it three weeks before. So it's a little jarring and a little hard for me to comprehend exactly what we're filming today, but it'll be good. But I wanted to start off with this is for real. The last time you see me with the flum flow and I bought an ugly or cute disgusting one that tastes disgusting.
- [00:42]
Josiah
It literally looks like a matcha latte. Like, it looks like when you go to a really nice matcha bar and they're like, we put a little milk, then you put the matcha, then you put more milk.
- [00:50]
Drew
Yeah, but for real this time, I'm literally like your addict friend. That is like, no, like, I'm seriously smoking time. It's done, it's for real. And then you go two weeks and then they're back on it. And it's just nothing is ever said. But for real this time because the flavored vapes are banned in California starting January 1st. So next time you see me, we'll be in Texas. Or I'll. I guess I'll be in Texas because we're doing a zoom episode. But next time you see me in person in la, vapes are banned.
- [01:21]
Josiah
And is that really gonna happen though? Or is it like when they said they were gonna ban jewel pods and then it didn't happen?
- [01:27]
Drew
I think it's really gonna happen because all of the smoke shops are like taking preparations. Like everyone I've been to has been like, yeah, they're banned January 1st. And I was. And I've asked the same thing, like, Jules. And they were like, no, but Jules such like a big company. And like, they were just. It was probably just a takedown by big tobacco anyways or like an attempt to take them down and it just like failed because they lobbied in Congress or some. Um, but I think flum floats are dead.
- [01:53]
Josiah
I pray this new little logo, like, it.
- [01:56]
Drew
It's this ut, like University of Texas. They're made on the campus in Texas.
- [02:01]
Josiah
Oh, they have like 20 year olds making them.
- [02:03]
Drew
Yeah.
- [02:03]
Josiah
That actually freaked me out the other day. Because speaking of New Year, I've been saying I'm 24 because, like, I just. I always like a month or two before start saying my, like, age that's coming. Because I like, I hate getting to that age and then trying to transition into it, and then it takes me like three months to do it. Do you get what I'm saying?
- [02:22]
Drew
Yeah.
- [02:24]
Josiah
But speaking of New Year and getting older, I realize now college students are start like, especially freshmen, I'm like, that's a child. Now I'm getting to the point where I'm like, oh, I'm an 18, 19 year old. Which I'm sure is so annoying. Because of course when you're 18, 19, you don't feel like a child and you don't want to be revered as a child. But now even I look at myself at 18, 19 and I'm like, oh my God, I was so lost in a child.
- [02:51]
Drew
Such a baby. Literally. Still am lost and still feel like a baby. But yeah, no, I fully know what you mean. Like the older, the older I get because I'm 16 now. Like when I was like 11, looking at like 18 year olds, I thought they were like fucking like grown ass adults.
- [03:07]
Josiah
But now that you're 16, that's so close.
- [03:09]
Drew
They look younger than me even. So I'm just like. It's very, very weird. But Yeah, I turned 17 on March 4th. So New Year, new me, like, ready?
- [03:19]
Josiah
Are you going to be one of those people who throws like a big, like last, like, hurrah before 18? Because 18 is like when you have to get really serious.
- [03:26]
Drew
Yeah, exactly. I also lost my license recently.
- [03:29]
Josiah
Wait, what do you mean you lost it?
- [03:31]
Drew
Like, I got it revoked.
- [03:33]
Josiah
Oh, why? What did you do?
- [03:35]
Drew
I'm just such a bad driver.
- [03:37]
Josiah
Oh. I was scared you're going to say you got like, like a dui.
- [03:41]
Drew
I. I did. I got. I, Yeah, I got a dui. Oh my God. Yeah, but it's, it's only, it's, it's only the third one, so, like, I'm not gonna see, I'm not gonna see prison because I'm also a child. But yeah, it was like the third one, so it's been, it's been good. But yeah, I'm supposedly never gonna drive again, which is honestly good for me.
- [04:01]
Josiah
But they say that, but like, unless they catch you, you know.
- [04:04]
Drew
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [04:05]
Josiah
You can just keep going.
- [04:06]
Drew
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right, right.
- [04:10]
Josiah
I'm always scared of getting my license revoked for reasons I can't say. Like, I'm a good driver. There are just things. Although I'm 24, there are just things I can't get around to doing.
- [04:23]
Drew
Yeah.
- [04:24]
Josiah
And it's fake. It's fake. That stuff is not real anyway. That is literally fake. And it's not real.
- [04:29]
Drew
But they're probably thinking like you drinking and driving. But it's, it's, it's literally, it's literally like paperwork. Yeah.
- [04:37]
Josiah
Oriented things. It's like, I Should go wait in the line for something.
- [04:41]
Drew
But I'm like, absolutely, bro. Absolutely not. Remember your line arc like you being obsessed with limes, dude.
- [04:52]
Josiah
Yes. And also, I kind of tap back into that because me and Josiah, after that one event recently, we took a lime scooter back home, and it was lit. Like, literally. You could pause it.
- [05:02]
Drew
No, no. Line. L, I, N, E lines. Yeah. No, not scooters lines. Like, queuing in a line.
- [05:11]
Josiah
Oh. Oh. When I. When I really wanted to, like, make that a series.
- [05:15]
Drew
Yeah.
- [05:15]
Josiah
I still kind of want to do that. So I'm not gonna explain it, but I was thinking about the other day. I was like, that still would be such a funny and stupid idea for a video, but I just have. No. I don't have, like, the motivation and pizzazz that I used to have. Yeah. I just don't have it in me anymore. And, like, you know what else I don't have is, like, part of that would be, like, the ability to kind of go and, like, make fun of people to their face and record it. And, like, I can't do that anymore because I also feel like now I'm at a position where, like, I can't really do that. Actually, I'm just gonna say the idea, and if I end up doing it, like, act like you didn't fucking hear it. I had a video idea that I was really obsessed with doing for a while, and it was like, Best Lines in la and it was gonna be me making fun of, like, all the lines that people fucking wait in all the time for absolutely nothing. Like, people waiting in line to spend an absurd amount of money on something that will, like, not really benefit them. But I can't really judge that because I buy shit that doesn't benefit me all the time, but it gives me a small dopamine boost, so I like it. But, like, the supreme line, I'm like, like, in 2023, if you are still lining up at the Supreme Store, something is clinically wrong with you. And another reason I never did it is because I was like, why do I feel like I would go and get hit in the head?
- [06:25]
Drew
Yeah.
- [06:25]
Josiah
Like, one of those guys. Yeah. One of those guys would literally be like, you're making fun of me, and then grab a mic and hit me. Yeah, but, like, I just wanted to, like, go make fun of them and be like, oh, my God, this line is so exciting. I'll be here for about three hours and then, like, interview everyone in the line and be like, what are you so excited for that you're going to be here for three fucking hours of your life that you'll never get back. And then do it for a bunch of places like Alfred's Coffee used to have. But Alfred's Coffee doesn't have lines like that anymore. But like places like that that used to have like crazy lines. I wanted to go and interview people and yeah, I'd be like, what is wrong with you? Why are you doing this?
- [07:01]
Drew
Do you remember when Covid first dropped and we all found out we had it or we thought we had it. And then we went to the. I think this is like such a big moment in history that we'll look back on and it'll be like aerial photos of the Dodger stadium line for COVID testing. And we literally went to it on purpose so we could say we went there. But, like, that was such an insane experience. Like how like, it literally felt like the end of the world, like going in and like it was so dystopian. Yeah. Like waiting in line in your car and then them handing a bag through the window and then you drop. Driving up and getting the results the next day and like just all this crazy shit. And I was like, damn. Like, I don't know. That was just like, I just popped in my head because you were talking about lines. And I remember we waited forever also, like, for what?
- [07:50]
Josiah
We weren't doing anything. We could have just stayed home and like, we did not. But I guess we wanted obviously like most people, we wanted to know if we had it. Yeah, like we were staying home but like Josh was still going to and from his parents house to see his parents, so we had to make sure we didn't kill any family members.
- [08:06]
Drew
Yeah. Damn. Such a crazy time that like we kind of all trauma blocked and don't talk about because like, because now it's.
- [08:13]
Josiah
Like, now it's like also it's crazy how like big of a like political burst that caused like, that was literally, like I say all the time, like, that was just like the like last line of like everybody had all these like intense, crazy ideas of like, what they found right and wrong politically. And then how did Covid become the thing to like make them really. It literally was like the last straw for like so many people where they were like, you can't tell me what to do. Like, it literally like blew people's brains out of their fucking skull. And I like cannot fucking believe that because I'm like, it really was such a simple fix and nobody like, for like, it was so simple to get Rid of. And like, just because of human, like, lack of care, it just, like, kept going.
- [09:02]
Drew
Humans are inherently greedy. But yeah, I remember I literally am still like, fiending for that time. I'm like, can there be like another pandemic or something, please? Like, where no one dies, but we all get locked inside. So I can stay inside for six months and have an excuse to not see anybody. Because now that it's all said and done. Oh, that's another thing I've noticed is, like, after the pandemic, there was like a giant influx of, like, people going out and it was like a renaissance. And it was really beautiful and fun and you were seeing everybody all the time, and everybody was out all the fucking time. And now everybody experienced burnout like a year later, six months later, and now everything is so vibeless. And it's like the pandemic, but with no reason, and everybody's just burnout.
- [09:49]
Josiah
We're literally experiencing the vibe epidemic.
- [09:52]
Drew
It's like the vibeless epidemic. Yeah, it really truly is.
- [09:55]
Josiah
There's no vibes to be had in our. Especially in our community right now. And it's like, where are the vibes? Like, where are the girls going out us, as if we would fudgeing go out.
- [10:05]
Drew
I was about to say, like, the only reason we're okay with it is because we didn't go out anyways.
- [10:10]
Josiah
But what's awesome is all the big brands and brands in general who really tried to like, mark a profit off of fucking face mask and putting their stupid ass fucking logos on face masks. And now they're like $3 a fudgeing face mask because you're dumb. And you made 8 million of these masks thinking you were going to sell them all.
- [10:29]
Drew
Yeah.
- [10:29]
Josiah
And now you're like, really trying to push them onto people when people are like, I literally don't need that. You remember, the people stink and they don' work because they're like cloth.
- [10:37]
Drew
Do you remember the people early in the dude, like, oh, my fucking God, like, just so much shit happened. Like, and that we just all kind of forgot about. Like, the people that, like, hoarded all the food and the toilet paper and the fucking mask. Like, do you remember that? I have a vivid image of that dude with like 8 million masks stacked in his garage while, like, fucking nurses were like, treating COVID patients without masks because this guy had them all and he was like, flipping them for a crazy price. And it's just like, of course he was white. Like, of course. But, like, it's just crazy.
- [11:09]
Josiah
Yeah, it's Just tapping into your DNA in a time of the DNA will take control.
- [11:16]
Drew
The inherent need for white people to make a profit.
- [11:19]
Josiah
But, like, that is so crazy. Like, the toilet paper thing literally was insane. And I like, why? Why was that the thing? Because in, like, Florida, coming from Florida and like, Miami and every time there's a hurricane or a threat of hurricane, the first thing to go is water bottles. But that makes sense because if, like, pipes break, like, you should be drinking tap water during a hurricane because, like, you don't know what's getting into the systems. Like, a lot of the plant, like, plants that are filtering water are down because of, like, dangerous. Whatever. Whatever. Like, yes, you need bottled water. I've never seen toilet paper go like that. Like, it was really not the thing.
- [12:01]
Drew
Because, like, I think it was the thing because people made it the thing. But, like, it could have been anything. But, like, I think also it's just. It looked a lot more scary than it was because since toilet paper is so big on the shelves, it's probably, like, the biggest item in the grocery store. So, like.
- [12:17]
Josiah
Like, toilet paper and paper towels.
- [12:19]
Drew
Yeah. So, like, you can't order a lot of quantity of it, and it takes, like, six people buying out the shelf for it to look like everybody in the world overbought their toilet paper. They. That. And also, like, imagine wiping your ass with your fucking fingernails. Like, that's what, like, you would have to. You'd have to, like, go under there with your flat hand and just like.
- [12:36]
Josiah
Yeah. If you had to wipe.
- [12:37]
Drew
Do you wipe from the front or the back?
- [12:38]
Josiah
No, from the back.
- [12:39]
Drew
Okay.
- [12:41]
Josiah
If I wiped from the front, I would literally have, like, a moldy fucking vagina.
- [12:44]
Drew
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right, right. I write from the front because I like the little poop spikes on my wiener. Yeah. How do people do that? How do fucking people do that? And I have, like, also, I think it's a lie that people say. Like, half the people stand up to wipe and have sit down. I do not believe that I need a study. I need a credible study done.
- [13:06]
Josiah
Or do you stand?
- [13:07]
Drew
I, like, lift my ass up.
- [13:09]
Josiah
Yeah. I can do, like, a mix of both, depending on, like, how. Like, how diligently I need the job done. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [13:19]
Drew
Right. But also, I think this is a new record. We went, like, how long have we gone? We went 13 minutes without talking about poop. Yeah, but we broke it. But.
- [13:30]
Josiah
Yeah, but, like, it's not that crazy because you could have just used a fucking towel. Like, we could have just, like, became what should have happened in that moment is humans should have progressed into, like, bidet and, like, reusable, like, wiping technology. Like, it should have been a bidet and, like, towel mix since, like, Americans, like, need so badly for, like, the drying part of, like, the butt. Like, like. So every time I hear, like, somebody who's, like, never encountered a bidet talk about it, they're like, I don't want my ass to be all fucking wet. And it's like, okay, like, we're not spraying you down with a fire hydrant hose, bitch. Like, it's literally not that deep. Also, like, you'd rather have a flaky butt. That's the thing about. Okay, I'm not gonna. That's the thing about poop.
- [14:14]
Drew
Like, is when it dries, it's flaky.
- [14:20]
Josiah
But, yeah, we need to get a bidet.
- [14:22]
Drew
Yeah. I don't know why we don't have one yet.
- [14:24]
Josiah
Because we're still a wipe family. I love calling our household a family.
- [14:28]
Drew
Yeah. My. My first brand deal that I was, like, ever super excited about, and I'm pretty sure it was a fucking scam at this point. But, like, a bidet company reached out and wanted to work with me and wanted me to post. Like, I worked their ass up, too, on the price. Like, I was like, I was about to get paid for this fucking brand deal. Then they ghosted me. But I was so excited. I was telling everybody because it wasn't real.
- [14:53]
Josiah
And you were asking, too.
- [14:54]
Drew
They were probably like, what's your password? Yeah, so we can log in and see analytics.
- [14:58]
Josiah
Is this when you were, like, a child?
- [15:00]
Drew
Ye. Yeah. Yeah, it was you now era.
- [15:01]
Josiah
Okay. I just remembered I got scammed. Like, not crazy, but I remember the first time I got scammed.
- [15:09]
Drew
Tell me about this.
- [15:10]
Josiah
Yeah. Is when I was like, I should have known.
- [15:13]
Drew
But, like, Josiah got scammed recently, and it was for something so embarrassing.
- [15:21]
Josiah
I. I got, like, scammed when I was, like, 15, 16, and I should have known it. But you know what it was. It was a big pride moment because I would, like, argue with my parents so much about doing the Internet. And I was like, no, you don't understand this. Like, one day will be my career, blah, blah. And I would argue with them so much on it. So then when this happens, like, I was, like, so proud of myself. But, like, this company, like, it was like a clothing brand, sent me hats and was like, oh, if you post it, the number was insane. It was like, I'm. It was like an unreal number. But I was also A kid and.
- [15:53]
Drew
Like, wait, say the number.
- [15:54]
Josiah
I think it was like anywhere from five to $9,000.
- [15:57]
Drew
Jesus Christ. Jesus.
- [16:00]
Josiah
In like 2014, which is like, no, like 2015. Like at that point, like, no one was getting really paid anything. I don't know why I thought I was the fudgeing chosen one, but like, I think because one, I was a kid too because, like, I just didn't really have any grasp on money. And like, also like, like that was like life changing. Like, and that would have literally been life changing. I would have been able to like at that age give my parents money like that. And I was like, oh my God, this is insane. And basically it was not fucking real. And I was so fucking mad. And I like, I had posted the hat and then I think I even left the photo up because I thought it was a really good picture of me.
- [16:40]
Drew
You did, you did.
- [16:41]
Josiah
So I was like, girl, fuck you. Like, I look good. But then I destroyed the hat. Not destroyed it, but I like sewed a whole new design over it and I wore it like every fucking day. Like, because I was like, wait, this design is fucking lit. But I was really mad and I, I wish I like had evidence of like what I said to him because I was like, what's funny too is like, I've like spoken about this is there was another instance where like, I was done really wrongly by someone older as like a 15 year old. And I was like, I remember I went in on them and then when I looked back at the message, I was like, oh my God. I was like so articulate and like well spoken in this email. And I, I remember kind of carrying the same tone where I was like, something is absolutely wrong with you taking advantage of someone like me. Like, you have no idea what my family situation is. Like, that money would have been life. Like, I was like, so like, I was like really angry, but I was like, I was like, I'll show him.
- [17:29]
Drew
I'm intelligent even though he like scammed.
- [17:32]
Josiah
The out of me. But like not you as like a 25 year old scamming a child. You're weird.
- [17:37]
Drew
Yeah, I only do, I only do brand deals if they're like at least 150k or above true.
- [17:44]
Josiah
Like one IG post.
- [17:45]
Drew
Like, yeah, my. Every time I post on Instagram, it's you're seeing three me pocket $350,000.
- [17:54]
Josiah
Okay. Kourtney Kardashian.
- [17:55]
Drew
Yeah, no, I'm. That's Kylie Kardashian level. That's Carly, that's Karlie. Jenner her name is Karlie Gender. That's Karlie Gender. Level of. But, like, maybe even more than her. I probably make more money than Carly Gender.
- [18:12]
Josiah
It's insane to think that that's, like, almost like, fully 10 years ago, but it has been, like, by the time it comes out, it's like two days before this is what I was saying I was thinking about in the bathroom earlier is by the time this episode is coming out, we're, like, really closing in on what would have been like, a decade ago, like, the Internet journey start. And I'm like, it's just so insane because I was, like, thinking about it in the other room. I was like, damn, I really have been. Because I started on the Internet, like, really posting my face when I was 14. Like, I remember, like, that's when I started, like, kind of posting pictures of myself and putting myself out there. At this point, I'd already, like, been on, like, Twitter and stuff because of one direction, like, 10 years ago. But I was like, wow, 10 years ago to this year is when, like, kind of vine really started. Because vine started in 2013, right? I think even, like, maybe 2012.
- [19:04]
Drew
Yeah, I remember 2013. 2014 was, like, when I first started generating, like, an audience on there.
- [19:10]
Josiah
Oh, my God. Yeah. January 24th, 2013. Two days after my birthday. It started two days after my 14th birthday.
- [19:17]
Drew
That's crazy.
- [19:17]
Josiah
And I think I, like, I. Whoa. Oh, my God. In 2013, did I just enter high school or was it 2014?
- [19:25]
Drew
I think you were just entering high school in 2014 because I was entering high school in 2014.
- [19:30]
Josiah
Okay. Yeah, no, because I remember I had vine in middle school.
- [19:33]
Drew
No, I was in 2013. I was in ninth grade.
- [19:37]
Josiah
Oh, okay. So, yeah, I was still a middle school. I had, like, a few months left of middle school.
- [19:41]
Drew
Wait, no, no, I have it literally all wrong. I was in ninth grade last year.
- [19:49]
Josiah
Wait, you're only a sophomore, but you're 16?
- [19:51]
Drew
Yeah. Did you flunk so many levels?
- [19:53]
Josiah
No, I. No, I think it's the opposite. I think you might have, like, flunked a grade or two.
- [19:57]
Drew
No, I'm special.
- [19:59]
Josiah
I'm special. The kids who skipped grades would not shut the up. I wouldn't shut the up about it because I was supposed to skip grades, but my parents wouldn't let me because they were like, you have no business being around eighth graders when you're a sixth grader. They were so concerned about that.
- [20:12]
Drew
Gifted and talented. We weren't allowed to skip grades, but we got put into special classes called Gifted and talented. I think we've talked about this before, but yeah, everybody, everybody that are in those classes, that were in those classes are like drug addicts now. Like, I, I can literally look at everybody around me and like, sorry, like I'm like thinking from like the perspective of like an 8th grader, but like sitting down in class, I can like look around and I can name every single one of those people and what drug they're addicted to.
- [20:43]
Josiah
It's because it's like crazy to put that much pressure on a child.
- [20:47]
Drew
Yeah. And if they actually are gifted, like, like you have to like self medicate at some point. Like you, you. Every person that actually like is like higher level intelligence, like, even though that shit's all bull, like gifted and talented is. But they're like people, literal geniuses have to self medicate or they'll go insane. But sorry, what were you saying?
- [21:10]
Josiah
That's how I feel.
- [21:11]
Drew
Because I just know, I know. Like I, I microdose porn every. Every day.
- [21:16]
Josiah
Porn?
- [21:17]
Drew
Yeah.
- [21:18]
Josiah
Like you wake up and you have to just have like a few seconds of it.
- [21:20]
Drew
Yeah. But it's, it's self. It's like my self medicating journey because I'm so smart and I just have to like do something to get out of my head and just. It's. It's healthy.
- [21:29]
Josiah
Is it like VR porn or is it just like.
- [21:32]
Drew
No, it's just like iPhone porn. Just like really basic. Like I just did. I just did it.
- [21:38]
Josiah
Where you slide your iPhone?
- [21:40]
Drew
Yeah, I just did it just sitting here.
- [21:41]
Josiah
Oh my God. You just microdosed for.
- [21:44]
Drew
Yeah.
- [21:45]
Josiah
I don't remember what I was gonna say. I was just gonna say, yeah, like I know people still who like, who were in those classes. And like, that was just too much pressure to put on a child. I remember in eighth grade my dad got so mad because I had a. My older sib. Literally was like fucking genius kid. Like, was in all those classes and got every award for eighth grade at graduation. And then when my dad went, this was like the first time, I was like, I am a disappointment. My dad, like, God bless him, he just like expected way too much because my fucking stupid ass sibling put way too much fucking. Like, stop. What we need to do is lower standards. And from that moment on, that's what I knew. I was like, I will never set high expectations for my family. And because I plan on going below those expectations. So from that moment on, I brought the standard solo. Like, I never, I never got higher than a C in class because I was like, you will not. What you won't do is expect for me to do good in school, because I won't be doing it. I think, like, maybe on my report card I would have, like, to be's. And then all season D's and I.
- [22:47]
Drew
Was like, average, average.
- [22:50]
Josiah
But I remember my dad was like, I didn't get a single award. And he was like. He was like, what happened? And I was just like, I felt so bad. Like, I literally, like, I felt so much shame. I remember, like, so dramatic going home and like, being on the carpet in the bathroom and being like. And I fucking cried my eyes out because I was like, I didn't bring home a single award, but those things don't fucking matter. And then from that moment on, I was like, wait, that, like, is not real and everybody else is crazy.
- [23:21]
Drew
Dude, it is crazy that, like, the amount of pressure that I put myself or put on myself to like, exceed in school and like, looking back at how, like, obsolete that was to like, who I am now, like, like there was no reason for me to be as high ranked in my school. And then me sitting here in 13 minutes ago talking about like, shitting out of my butt and like, how.
- [23:44]
Josiah
I know two minutes ago you talk about microdosing porn.
- [23:48]
Drew
Yeah, exactly, exactly. But like, I wrote it down because I was like, I don't want to forget this, but like, very similar situation. It was like fourth grade and it was like before. Okay, well, there. Let me preface this. Like, reading and writing is like, I think I don't know how to word this, but, like, like, compared to like the average human, like, I am so below, like, what every other human is. Like, I cannot for the life of me write or read. And I don't know, it just doesn't click in my brain. Like, especially out loud. Like, I can see the words and I can read them in my brain and most of the time I can comprehend it. But, like, for some reason there's like a disconnect from my brain to my mouth. But that's like. I've talked about that a million times. Especially, like when we're reading what we've been writing recently. Like, out loud. Like, it takes me a minute to, like, get in a groove and I have to like, focus so hard on like, like reading slowly enough and like, being able to speak it out loud. Like, I literally just have apraxia, but whatever. I. I've never heard that word in my life. Just where you can't speak, but you can like, think in your brain. But I remember in fourth grade or in third grade, we took like a reading assessment test. And I remember scoring super high. Like, I was reading at like an eighth grade level in like, third grade. And I felt like such a genius. I felt so sick. I felt so cool. And then fourth grade came around and we had to do like, tax tests where it's like, like state mandated testing. And I. It was the first time I ever had a panic attack. And I freaked the fuck out the night before, like, scream, crying, like, I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this. I can't do this. I took the test. Fucking flopped. It was so bad. And since third grade, I have had the exact same reading level. Like, I read at an eighth grade level since then. I'm sure it's probably not true, but like, literally it feels like I read at an eighth grade level. And I. And also, like, spelling is so bad for me. Like, if I didn't have autocorrect, like, it would be over. Since it's over. Like, but I'm also like, if I do have autocorrect, like, why do I need to know how to spell? Because, like, it's there to help me. And, like, I'm never writing anything physically anymore.
- [26:07]
Josiah
You need to know how to spell because, like, it's like an essential thing.
- [26:10]
Drew
But why? We have chat, gpd, chat AI. Like, we have the robot that will just tell me everything now we have.
- [26:16]
Josiah
Like, voice to text.
- [26:18]
Drew
Exactly. Or voice memos. Like, I don't need to know how to text or spell. But yeah, I also took like a spelling test and like, literally missed every single word, except for the hardest word, because I studied the hardest word over and over again and forgot to study everything else. And that's how I learned how to study. And then since then, I like, took school very seriously because I was like, I do not want to be an embarrassment. I cannot feel that embarrassment ever again. And now looking back, I'm like, I caused so much stress and anxiety and put so much pressure on myself when genuinely, it doesn't matter. And that probably, yeah, whatever.
- [26:53]
Josiah
It's crazy because I like, had the complete opposite. Like, all my. Like, I think I suffered from the issue that I was like, I don't think I'm necessarily, like, hyper intelligent or anything. Like, I genuinely am not. And I've always said that, like, I am not super intelligent.
- [27:10]
Drew
And I'm like, I agree, I agree. I agree.
- [27:12]
Josiah
Yeah, you said. Yep. Like, really?
- [27:13]
Drew
Like, certainly. Yeah, it's just like, like, you're just you're just. You.
- [27:18]
Josiah
You're going to say stupid.
- [27:20]
Drew
Yeah, you're stupid. You're stupid. Definitely not hyper intelligent. But I love you for who you are. Hey, if you ever speak to me like that again, I'm going to. You and your family. I love you too.
- [27:38]
Josiah
Yeah, I know. And I'm going to miss you for these breaks, but I've never been, like, hyper intelligent or anything. And I just like, you know what? Also when you were like, reading and writing is so hard. Those have always been, like, the easiest for me. Like, but those are my strong suits because I think I've just always been.
- [27:56]
Drew
That's why we're so compatible. Because I have, like.
- [27:58]
Josiah
You do number.
- [28:00]
Drew
I do numbers and logistics and you do emotions. Yeah, I mean, that's like how girls typically are, though. They're like, emotional and men are, like, more stern.
- [28:08]
Josiah
Like, that's why, like, I shouldn't have a bank account or, like, be able to own a home.
- [28:12]
Drew
That's why I recently had your business manager start wiring your money into my account, and then now you have to ask me for your money.
- [28:19]
Josiah
Thank you so much. Because it was, like, really, like, hard for me to figure out, like, how to, like, figure that out. But if you just put me on an allowance, I think I could survive.
- [28:27]
Drew
Yeah. Yeah. Dude, there's. Never mind. I won't get into that. But there are relationships.
- [28:33]
Josiah
Yeah, there are relationships like that. No, there are so many. That's a whole different topic. But like, as much as, like, people who use the Internet, like, all of us, and like, people who were watching this and are, like, super aware of those things and, like, would do our best to not end up in those situations. One, you could always end up in a situation like that because it just happens. All those people are in that situation because it happens, and before they know it, they're in it. Like, I think most people have been in a relationship where they walk away and they're like, why the fuck did I stay there? Because I have that. So many people I know have had that. I don't have that right now, but I've had that. And it's just because before you know it, you're like. You look around and you're like, oh, my God, I'm like a shell of a human. And I've been letting this person, like, dictate my life. Yeah, but that's a whole other conversation. But I've always been, like, good at reading and writing. And because of that, I just, like, flew under the radar and everybody was like, she's so smart. We love her. She's so smart. We love her. Until I got to high school, and then, like, it was time to, like, like, really do math. And I was like. And science.
- [29:38]
Drew
I was like, I loved science. I literally love science. But I do have a funny story. It was, like, seventh to eighth grade. It was, like, the jump from, like, doing, like, algebra to, like, pre calculus. And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna take pre calculus. Like, I'm a genius. Like, I can do this. It was, like, above my grade. Like, I was just, like, fed lies my entire life. And everybody's like, you're so smart. You're doing so good. You're so smart. And I got in that pre calculus class, and they took, like, an assessment test to see, like, where we were. And I scored so poorly that the same day, the first day of school, the teacher pulled me out to the hallway and was like, drew, I have to be honest with you. I think you should go to the other class, which was, like, not pre calculus. And I literally cried. I cried in eighth grade because my teacher told me, you're so stupid that you're not ready for this class. And all of my friends were in that class, and I was so fucking excited.
- [30:34]
Josiah
And, yeah, I was doing so bad in school that I wasn't in class with any of my friends because I just wasn't doing any of my work. But what I would do is I would just skip class and go hang out with my friends and be like, get to the bathroom. We need to hang out right now.
- [30:47]
Drew
But now kids, all they do is hit fucking blinkers in the school bathroom and get fucking high as shit and, like, get loaded. I mean, kids were doing that in my school, but, like, with.
- [30:56]
Josiah
It was, like, more difficult also, though, because, like, to get high when we were in high school, you literally had to physically smoke or have an edible.
- [31:03]
Drew
Yeah. My friends and I drove all the way to Dallas to pick up a modded jewel pod that had weed oil in it because it was so hard to find.
- [31:12]
Josiah
You told us this, cuz. You al me us. You told us.
- [31:15]
Drew
Yeah, but.
- [31:16]
Josiah
Cuz also, that was, like, the story where, like, when y' all were out somewhere, like, your friend had, like, dropped his card or somebody dropped a card, or. No, y' all were at a bar or something, and somebody had dropped their car, and this guy used it. And then the fucking clerk was like.
- [31:30]
Drew
Bitch, I know who that is. Not you. Yeah, small town Texas shit. But I also remember the drive. I don't know if I talked about it, but the drive home with that car, like, we saw probably the most police officers we've ever seen in my entire life. And my friend was driving high, which is so stupid. Don't do that. But, yeah, it was. And we were all fucking paranoid schizophrenic in that car, freaking the fuck out that we were gonna get pulled over. And, like, one time a cop did turn around and, like, start tailing us, but then went around us and we were like, bro, we're going to jail. We are going to jail. We are going to jail. But we made it home.
- [32:04]
Josiah
Also, it was, like, hard for me to focus on school because again, back to what started this. What we always do when we deep dive into, like, our fucking childhood is because I was too busy, like, doing the Internet. Like, I did. I just didn't care. Like, I was like. I was like, my life. Like, I'm. I'm an entertainer. Like, I can't be here. Like, I'm literally like, I'm made something different. I made. To entertain the people. So I was like, just doing that, and it's just so crazy. Do you remember where you were the first time a Vine of yours went viral?
- [32:32]
Drew
Yeah, I was on. I was literally on the couch, and I woke up the next day, and then I immediately posted a Beyonce vine right after that.
- [32:38]
Josiah
Immediately you're like, I am keeping up with this.
- [32:40]
Drew
Yeah, exactly. But I don't remember exactly where I was, but I remember. I remember the Vine. It was my first Vine I ever posted. And, yeah, it was me throwing a cheese sandwich at the refrigerator.
- [32:58]
Josiah
Yeah, right, right.
- [33:00]
Drew
I think that was just the weird shit you could get away with on there.
- [33:03]
Josiah
Yeah, like, it was. It. Because it was all just like, whatever you could do in six seconds, which I like, I feel like. You watch this. No, we came from vine. Just. But if you don't. That's how we started the Internet is when we were literally children and we shouldn't have had access to the Internet. And we were posting Vines. I was in my geometry class and using my ipod touch because I had an ipod touch and an Android. Fun fact. I didn't have an iPhone until, like, not the Android. Until I was like, I think 16. I had been posting, like, everything off. That was literally my thing. And that's why I'm sure you've seen me do, like, slide text. That's why I'm good at it. And I like using it because Androids were the first, like, phones to have that, and I would use it all the Time. Because when I was texting the man who was grooming me in class and I was like, I love you so much. Brave.
- [33:53]
Drew
Like, meanwhile, he's unemployed.
- [33:55]
Josiah
I'm in biology right now, so I can't send you a picture of me, but I will in a second. Give me one second. I remember like, also, like, this is just getting into it, but I remember like my friend Sicard, who I'm still friends with. I don't even know if I've ever like, spoken to him about this. But no, I think he did know about this guy because, like, he so Card was the only other person in my life who like, use the Internet kind of to the same capacity as me. Like, we both were like Tumblr users.
- [34:21]
Drew
And like, I love the Card having his arc there.
- [34:23]
Josiah
I know. I love his TikTok so much.
- [34:25]
Drew
I eat that shit.
- [34:27]
Josiah
You've probably seen because now he does like fashion and like interior design.
- [34:31]
Drew
Like, and we have such similar tastes. We have texted about it before, talked about it before. Like the. We have the exact same taste and we desire the exact same thing.
- [34:41]
Josiah
I know, like, the Cards come over after a while once and like came in and like I went to their. Into Drew's room and they were like.
- [34:46]
Drew
Looking at chateaus on Zillow.
- [34:49]
Josiah
But I remember like during, like, it was like one of the things where like, he had broken up with me because he was like, you're just like, you're too young. I can't wait for you. And I was like, please.
- [35:04]
Drew
Please text me back.
- [35:06]
Josiah
Like, when I was like, I had my bad habit when people would ask if I was okay and I would just start crying. And Zakar didn't ask me if I was a kid. I was like, you know, and I like went to the bathroom and Sicard came in with me and I was like, he doesn't want to be with me anymore.
- [35:21]
Drew
Oh my God.
- [35:22]
Josiah
And I remember crying over it and like 9 to 10 seconds.
- [35:26]
Drew
That is so dark.
- [35:27]
Josiah
So.
- [35:27]
Drew
Fuck. Yeah. I was just telling you recently that, like, maybe I even said it on the fucking podcast. But like, how I like am just now processing what the fuck I was doing when I was a 16 year old. 15 year old, like driving illegally to. Yeah, it's just, it's.
- [35:43]
Josiah
It's literally, it's because it's like now it is far enough away and now we are like. I mean, you're. Although you're only 16, your brain is like coming to its full developmental style.
- [35:55]
Drew
Exactly.
- [35:56]
Josiah
So now it is like the. It's like, damn, I'm like, I. I've been an adult for long enough now that I'm like, I am an adult, and I'm looking at, like, things I did as a teenager, and now I fully identify teenagers. And I'm like, that is like.
- [36:09]
Drew
Like.
- [36:09]
Josiah
Like I got into an argument with my little sister because I was like, girl, you are a child. Like, you don't. Like, I.
- [36:14]
Drew
You, like, I promise. I promise. You think you know everything.
- [36:17]
Josiah
You are a child. Which, again, I know, like, young people don't like to hear, and I hated hearing it. But it is, like that annoying thing where it's like, when you're older, you'll look back and you'll be like, I was a kid.
- [36:27]
Drew
And.
- [36:27]
Josiah
Yeah, and even.
- [36:28]
Drew
Even, like, looking back, when I thought I was older, when I was, like, 21, I was like, yeah, that shit's still lit. Like, I'm lit for that. And now I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. What was I doing, dude?
- [36:43]
Josiah
But, like, I remember what I was saying. Oh, yeah. I was in geometry when. I know in geometry, I. That's where I was when the first Vine.
- [36:54]
Drew
It's honestly fucking so sad.
- [36:55]
Josiah
Went viral. Your teenage years when you were up to.
- [36:59]
Drew
Yeah, it's really sad.
- [37:01]
Josiah
You know what? Hey, I'm here if you want someone to talk about it and work through it.
- [37:06]
Drew
Thank you. We know everything.
- [37:09]
Josiah
I know our friend group loves sitting around and, like, talking about and be like, isn't that crazy? All right, let's watch Car Crash Compilations. But, yeah, I was in geometry, and I remember I'd woken up also, as I'm thinking about it, like, we. That era of, like, Twitter and Vine was so, like, dependent on being basically a baby journalist. Like, it was dependent on being a baby pop culture journalist. Because I remember after every VMA performance.
- [37:39]
Drew
Or anything, dude, live tweeting, the VMA's.
- [37:42]
Josiah
Having to live tweet it. And then sometimes, like, I. I had a strict parent who would be like, you need to go to bed. Like, get off. And I would be like, so the next morning, I was always late to the scraps of the jokes, and I would be sitting in class. And I remember that day I was watching one of Beyonce's performances from the night before. It wasn't the one where she. Like, where she had, like, the screen behind her. I don't remember which one it was, but I remember, like, watching it and then being like, fuck, okay. Like, what's the joke? Like, what am I gonna say about this? Like, and, like, going to Twitter and Then seeing that, like, the tweet of it did pretty good. And I was like, oh, wow. So I, like, clicked on it. And it had done, like, at the time, like, for me, I was like, oh, my God, this is, like, insane. Like, I'm literally viral. It got, like 11k likes, and I was like, oh, my God. Like, this is it. And that. But that's still when, like, the app was such a baby. So that felt, like, humongous. It was like, oh, my God. Like, I don't even know how many people are on this app. And I remember being like, fuck, okay. When I get home, I have to, like, have a good joke and I have to, like, keep it going. And I remember every day after school in, like, middle school and high school school, I would go to, like, if you have ever seen, like, my vines, which I would actually rather die than anybody, like, talk to me about them now. But there was, like, a desk that my dad had that I would always sit in that chair because that was, like, my after school chair. I would sit in it and, like, spin in it. And it was like this big, comfy desk chair. And that's where I would make all them. And I would go there and I would sit there for an hour and I'd be like. And like, maybe like, wow, what am I going to talk about? And then, like, what I would talk about was, like, the dumbest ever.
- [39:18]
Drew
But my favorite ever was live tweeting American Horror Story. Oh, my God. And then, like, just, like, getting into the deeper seasons and being like, wow, this show sucks balls. Progressively so bad, so hard, so quick.
- [39:36]
Josiah
I bet if we watched it now, like, we would be like, this sucks. I'm trying to. Wait. What was it called? It.
- [39:41]
Drew
Was it Asylum With Asylum, Coven, Murder House were the three, like, good ones.
- [39:47]
Josiah
Asylum was the first one. Oh. Murder House was, like, the lit one. That's when everyone was really tapped in.
- [39:52]
Drew
That was the first season. Yeah. And then Coven, super iconic. Like, I think that's their best season. And then, like, the hotel, I think, was like, the last. Like, okay.
- [40:05]
Josiah
Because that's the way Gaga.
- [40:06]
Drew
Yeah, Gaga was in it.
- [40:08]
Josiah
I wanna hold you close. Oh, that was such a good era. But, yeah, I just remember, like, that taking up all my life. And now I'm like, wow. I'm, like, still doing the Internet. And I was right.
- [40:21]
Drew
Yeah.
- [40:21]
Josiah
I knew. I knew I was gonna stick to it.
- [40:23]
Drew
Yeah. I don't think I ever had, like, a cognitive thought where I was like, this is like, no, that's a lie. I remember Having being like, no, this is it. But I never had really any pushback from, like, people in my life other than, like, my friends in school. And that's the only people I ever knew. And my dad obviously was like, what are you doing? Like, why are you dropping out of college? Like, what are you, like, literally, what are you doing with your life? And I was like, dude, I remember.
- [40:44]
Josiah
The era of me begging you to, like, move. And I was like, please, just do it. Like, please, like, stop.
- [40:50]
Drew
I always, I was very committed to doing it. I just had to figure out how to, like, tell my. And I remember I was literally just like, I'm moving out. And they were like, okay, but like, how are you going to go to school? And I was like, no. And then they were like, okay, well, we're not supporting you financially if you're not going to go to school. And I was like, okay, I support myself already. Like, I can do this, I'm fine. And I was just telling you there were like, moments when I first moved to LA where I was, like, broke. I was like, oh my God, like, like, I remember, like, actually being at a point where I was like, I have to skip this meal so. So I can, like, keep the same amount of money so I can, like, go back to Texas for the holidays and shit.
- [41:29]
Josiah
Oh my God. I remember that, like the first, like, two years of being, like. I remember even the first year being like, oh my God, it's so expensive to go home. And then I was like, this is so much money. And, like, I'm not making money like that. Like, I was like, and I want to go home and like, give my family gifts, but how the am I supposed to do that with, like, this amount? Like, it was so. It was. It's still so expensive. Like, that's why every time the holidays come around, I like, think about, like, how many people can't go back to their families.
- [41:57]
Drew
And it makes me so.
- [41:58]
Josiah
So. It is so sad because it is so one. It's a truck. Like, it's a big, like, commitment to being able to do that. Thankfully, we're in the position where, like, financially we can. And like, also because we, like, time our job out however we want, we can go back. But, like, going back is huge. Like, to go back to Miami is really expensive and it's always been so expensive the most. Like, I've spent upwards. And this sounds gnarly, but, like, I was gonna do it to go see my family, but I remember that first year, it literally like ripped my brain out. Of my skull. I didn't realize that I should have gotten my ticket way earlier. And I got it like a week before I was supposed to leave for like a week and a half. And I'm still pretty bad at it now. I've gotten way better. And I, like, I dig for a cheap ticket, but at. At the time, for a round trip from LA to Miami, it was twelve hundred dollars. And also, I couldn't ask my parents, so I was like, dude.
- [42:52]
Drew
Also, like, pre pand. Expensive flights were like. I think, like, the pandemic was low key, like a good thing for the flight industry at least as like, consumers. Because now the flights are so expensive, they're just now, recently, like, getting back to the price that they were. But like, for like three years, you could fly for literally pennies on the dollar. And then now it's like, expensive again. But, like, yeah, I remember. Just like, it was so. I remember I had to ask my parents to buy me a flight home one time, and they were like, are you struggling? Like, do you need to move home? And I was like, no. Like, I'm genuinely okay. Like, I need to do this because I need to be out here and I want.
- [43:34]
Josiah
I think I remember that year because you, like, told me.
- [43:36]
Drew
Yeah, I was so embarrassed. I hate people paying anything for any. Any amount of money for me on anything.
- [43:43]
Josiah
I remember I've had to ask you for, like, money. I've had. I've had to be the person where I'm like.
- [43:49]
Drew
And I have some. But, like, I. I don't mind giving it to people because I literally. You're so. Y' all are so integrated into my life that if you don't pay me back, I'll just find your family and hurt them.
- [43:59]
Josiah
Oh, my God.
- [44:00]
Drew
Why would you do that?
- [44:00]
Josiah
Just, like, don't even, like, take, like, give us the money.
- [44:03]
Drew
I. I caught myself literally, like yesterday, like, almost doing that to Josiah. And then I was like, no, no. Like, stop. Like. But the problem is, like, it's like.
- [44:12]
Josiah
Funny to, like, it's joke about. But then. But then like, you're like, oh, wait, this.
- [44:16]
Drew
Is this coming from a real place? Like, is this coming from a real place?
- [44:19]
Josiah
It's also funny because, like, money is just such a, like, contention point of, like, for I like, think most people, like, even all around the world, it's crazy how, like, integrated it is into, like, embarrassment and shame, like, based on.
- [44:31]
Drew
Like, it's not even fucking real.
- [44:33]
Josiah
I know none of it is real, but it is. But it's crazy because it's so real, but it's not real.
- [44:38]
Drew
Like the fact that like I could literally print fake money right now and like kind of get away for it with it for a little bit just proves that it's not real. But don't do that. Have I ever told that story about me buying fake money?
- [44:51]
Josiah
No.
- [44:54]
Drew
Have I really not?
- [44:55]
Josiah
I don't know what you're talking about.
- [44:57]
Drew
On the Dark web.
- [44:59]
Josiah
Oh no, you have, you have. Because we've, we've had a whole conversation about the dark web too. Because I was like, what is that? Like I don't understand what.
- [45:06]
Drew
I'm going to tell it very briefly just because it's been so long, but I, it was like around the time that I like started the end, like was like kind of a thing on the Internet. And I remember I was like seeing everybody in the same like bracket as me online with like a bunch of cool shit and like a bunch of money and all this shit and like I was so inconsumable to brands that like I never made any cash on anything I ever did. And like, whatever. Not the end of the world. But I remember I wanted to be like people. So I attempted to buy $50,000 in fake cash on the dark web and my. With like bitcoin. And then that's how I had bitcoin. That like, that's part of the reason why I was able to move out here was because I, it failed. And I, it was like the first spike in bitcoin and I sold it all when it first spiked. And the only reason I had it was because I told my older brother that I wanted to buy hallucinogens online. I was like a child and he should have said no, but he was like, yeah, fine, I'll give you some cash. But he was also a child and he gave me like some bitcoin because he's, he was like mining bitcoin for years. And then yeah, I failed at buying the mushrooms. And then I was like, I'm going to buy fake cash. Fuck it. I didn't even attempt to buy the mushrooms, but I'm gonna buy fake cash. Failed at that. I was so scared because the first article I looked up was like, 14 year old kid goes to prison for 10 years. I know it's probably not even real, but then I just held on to it for like three years and then it blew up and I was able to move out here. That and my merch drop.
- [46:52]
Josiah
But yeah, I. What, who was like the first? Because also with this year we like officially come up on 10 years.
- [47:02]
Drew
Yeah. Which is because we've been.
- [47:04]
Josiah
For the past, like, year. We've been, like, 10 years. 10 years. 10 years. Because, like, I guess we've kind of known of each other for 10 years already, but this is, like, 10 years of, like, hello, Speaking. Which is actually insane. Who was the first, like, friend who you're, like, kind of still friends with? Who you, like, had had a real conversation with? Like, who you, like, like. Or not even who you're still friends with? Who was the first person you remember, like, exchange. Exchanging a phone number with and, like, getting on the phone with?
- [47:34]
Drew
Dana.
- [47:35]
Josiah
Really?
- [47:35]
Drew
Yeah, it was Dana, Sydney, and Savannah. The Holy Trinity. Those are my girls. Like, we even did, like, a meet and greet on Club Penguin, and it was just like, the. It was them. And then that led to Christian, who was next? And then I met, like, Josh and Lucas over Zoom, and. Yeah, and then I met you through, like, the Internet. I don't know.
- [48:15]
Josiah
But, yeah, I think my first.
- [48:17]
Drew
I'm gonna say. Who are yours?
- [48:19]
Josiah
My first people who I actually ever spoke on the phone with was this guy Chris, who I knew, and it was Emma. And also when we're saying Emma, we mean Greer. And, like, those are just the first people I ever, like, spoke on the phone. Like. Yeah. And I, like, that was, like, one of my. I had known Emma for, like, so long because I used to be obsessed with her because I thought she was, like, really funny in, like, 2012, 2013, because she just was already, like, such a big personality on the Internet. And I remember I was, like, obsessed with her. And I remember I used to, like, tweet at her a bunch. Like, I was, like, so, like, I was. I literally thought she was so funny. And then, like, we became friends. And her really close friend at the time, Chris, we all became friends. And, like, I remember, again, I had strict parents who, like, they were like, do not talk to people on the Internet. And, like, when my parents weren't home, I got an uvu. And I remember Emma used to make fun of me so, so bad because she'd be like, what the fuck your parents think? Like, we're gonna kidnap you. Like, what are you talking about? And I was like, no, it's just they don't know who I'm talking to. And, like, we would always, like, joke and talk. And, like, I remember so many times I'd be on UVU with them, and, like, we'd just be talking. And they were actually the first people who I ever knew who watched, like, Rupaul's Drag Race too. And they were like, they would talk about it, but I would kind of just sit in because I didn't watch it. And I would just like, I would basically, like, a lot of times watch them talk because I was still so shy and like, really reserved because, like, dude, I was just always so reserved. Like, I literally, like, I didn't tell anybody about my personal life until, like, I was like 20 or like 19. So, like, I was just. I was always very, like, reserved in that way. But I remember one time my dad came home from getting groceries and I like, slammed the laptop down and I shoved it under my blankets. And then Emma made fun of me so crazy because she was like, girl, what the fuck? Like, why did you get off? And I was like, my dad came home and he doesn't know I talk to you guys. And she was like, you were so fucking weird for hiding this. You're not doing anything, anything wrong. And I was like, you don't understand. And then I remember she. I also loved Sydney and she, like, knew I thought Sydney was really funny. And like, at this point, I think I had. I had mutuals with all these people, but because I was so reserved and like, really, like, I was grown up on the idea that like, talking to obviously, like, these strangers, like, it wasn't real. So I was just like, I never reached out.
- [50:35]
Drew
I just didn't even really have an interest to like, myself. Like, I didn't really, like, I had all these mutuals, but I. I kind of was like, content with my life like outside of the Internet. And then, yeah, things change, I think.
- [50:47]
Josiah
I wasn't like, I. I had friends, but like, I wasn't like, hanging out with people outside of school. So like, I. I did have this like, kind of gap of loneliness within talking to people my age other than my siblings. So I was like, always kind of craving to talk to somebody, which led to other things that were naughty. But, like, I was always craving to talk to somebody. I remember one time, I think, I think maybe Dana and Savannah and them were on this because then there was that guy Ed. Do you remember?
- [51:17]
Drew
Literally, Yeah, I still have a mutual.
- [51:19]
Josiah
I think I do too. And like, all of them were like, like on there talking. And like, Emma was like, oh, I'm going to call you. And I was like, okay. And she was like, just answer. And I was like, what? I was like, is Chris on? She's like, no. And I was like, okay, it's just us. And she threw me into like a big chat room. With all these people. And I remember just being. I was so silent, and I remember being so mad at her, and I was like, you. You're, like, trying to embarrass me. And I was so mad. That's literally, like, after I was, like, the happiest ever, because I ended up talking and, like, becoming friends with all these people, and it was awesome. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, all these people find the same things I find funny. Funny. And, like, we're, like, getting along so well.
- [51:59]
Drew
I truly believe that is, like, a real thing that, like. Like, the. I don't know how to word it, but, like, you will find the people that you're meant to find eventually. Like. Like, there's a reason why you, me, Josh, Lucas, Christian, Orion, Josiah, like, all of us, like, there's a reason why, like, we're all friends together and why we all find the same, like, things funny and why we all have the same sense of humor. It's just, like, literally divine intervention. Like, we were, like, meant to find each other. And I truly believe that, like, you will find your people, like, just based off, like, the energy that you put out into the universe. But you said. Mentioned RuPaul's Drag Race. I remember being, like, literally a fucking child. Like, Like. I want to say, like, 13 and, like, finding RuPaul's Drag Race. Like, whenever Netflix first, like, had the streaming service, And I remember RuPaul's Drag Race was on there. It was, like, season one through eight. And I remember watching that show religiously as, like, a child. And it was so scary to be watching it because I would be watching it on, like, my dad's computer or my mom's computer in their bed, and, like, while they're gone. And then they would come home, and it was like I was, like, watching porn or something, and I would hide it and, like, log out and do all this crazy shit. And, like, yeah, I completely forgot that, like, there's, like, a watch history and, like, you can see, like, what you're watching, but, like, was absolutely mortified that someone would catch me watching RuPaul's Drag Race. But, yeah, that was lit. But the same thing happened to me where, like, I was thrusted into a group chat with, like, Lucas and Josh and. And I. They say the same thing now, but I was, like, petrified of them. I, like, looked up to them in, like, such a crazy way, comedically. Big Bear, like, yeah, and they. They were saying that, like, they felt the same way about me, and I was like, there's no way. Because I just, like. Like, literally don't think I was ever funny. Like, I don't think I was. I don't think I'm funny. I don't. Well, I know I'm funny now because I'm, like, one of the funniest people alive. But back then, I didn't think anything I was doing was important or funny. But, like, Lucas was, like, saying the same thing. He was like, I was, like, nervous, dude. I know. I were.
- [54:10]
Josiah
I. We talk about it all the time. Because I remember I was, like, so nervous because I. I genuinely always. The funniest people, especially on vine, to me were Lucas and Josh. Like, I, like, always thought they were. They were just so good and, like, so comedically inclined.
- [54:24]
Drew
And I remember being, honestly, Christian, too.
- [54:26]
Josiah
Christian was hilarious.
- [54:28]
Drew
His was, like, so funny.
- [54:29]
Josiah
He's so stupid. Like, Christian is, like, the weirdest I've ever met.
- [54:34]
Drew
Have I ever talked about the first time I met Orion, dude?
- [54:40]
Josiah
No, not publicly. Should we save it for, like, if we ever actually fucking have her on? Because I have a story about Josh that I, like, really want to tell.
- [54:48]
Drew
But I'm like, girl, we're never gonna have Orion on.
- [54:51]
Josiah
No, we will this year. Never say never.
- [54:53]
Drew
We'll see. We'll see. But I'll save it.
- [54:57]
Josiah
But, yeah, I just remember, like, it's so funny because now these are, like, all, like, genuinely my family, like, leaving for Christmas. I'm always like, oh, I wish I could bring everybody. But then I'm like, they all have family, and I'm grateful and I have. I'm happy that everybody has family they love and can go back.
- [55:14]
Drew
Mine is slowly dwindling away and expiring. I'm losing so many people in my life. It's crazy.
- [55:22]
Josiah
No, no, no, don't say that. They're still here. And they will be here.
- [55:26]
Drew
They'll be in my heart forever.
- [55:28]
Josiah
You'll be in my fart forever. But, yeah, it's just so funny that now it's, like, truly coming up on 10 years, and it's like, wow, man. Like, I was a kid, like, exploring so much on the Internet, and it's like, it was such a new frontier still. And, like. Like, I don't know. It's just so funny to think about. Like, it's crazy. And I remember the second person I had ever spoken to, like, or, like, I guess it was like, the first. Like. Like, specifically, like, boy, I had spoken to. So, like, that made me extremely nervous because I was just like, if my dad finds out, I'm talking to a boy, he's gonna think I'm, like, gonna go get, like, like, kidnapped by, like, a man if he finds out I'm talking to a boy on the phone who doesn't live in my area.
- [56:05]
Drew
He's gonna be like, did your dad know that we talked about.
- [56:08]
Josiah
No, my dad. My. Because my dad was just so, like, for the right reasons, was really fearful of the Internet. Like, he. He wasn't even really using the Internet. We weren't like, an Internet, like, forward.
- [56:18]
Drew
That just blows my mind because of how close we were. We were talking, like, every day, every hour.
- [56:25]
Josiah
My dad, like, thought, like, the people I would, like, text and talk to on my phone were just, like, my friends until we got onto a tour. Then he, like, that, like, was, like, a change, and I really had to force my dad to, like, let me go on tour, and I had to fucking beg. I remember the moment he, like, said yes to it and agreed to it. And it was like, I went outside and, like, it was like, at the house they still live in now. And we, like, sat on that. On those same chairs that are out there. And I was like. I just, like, looked him, and I was like, if you don't let me do this, like, this will be the most heartbreaking thing ever. And I think, like, it will be something I regret for the rest of my life. And, like, this will. This will be life changing for me. And, like, I literally went outside and I pleaded to him, and then, like, he just sat there in silence. And, like, it was all always out of, like, just concern for me. Like, my dad was just like, like, hyper paranoid. Like, we didn't grow up in an area where it was very safe already. So, like, obviously, like, especially for, like, young, like, girls. So he was just like that. That was just, like, always on his mind. And then I remember he, like, said yes to it. And then he was like. He was like, but if some. If one thing goes wrong, it is done. Like, you are packing it all up and it is done. And then, like, I remember the one. The one thing he said to me, and I think he was really concerned because again, of, like, general history, he. He was, like, always really concerned about his kids, like, ever, like, drinking or using drugs and stuff, like, which I feel like most parents are always, like, concerned for. I remember, like, the one thing is he said to me, he was like, and you just, like, never leave a cup unattended. And, like, he, like, said that to.
- [57:50]
Drew
Me, I'm gonna put GHB in your drink.
- [57:53]
Josiah
And like, it wasn't even like over like you or anything.
- [57:55]
Drew
He was.
- [57:56]
Josiah
He was just like, never. And like, that was like the thing he said to me. And he was like, and please be safe. Because I think like that weekend, because that I was pushing it so hard, because it was like, that was like the determining weekend if I was to start or not. And yeah, but he didn't know I was like friends with anybody even up until, like, I remember. Like, even when like, Emma passed. Like, like that was so hard to explain to him. Like, I was just like. I remember I was like at the beach with my family. I remember that was like so hard to explain. And I was like, no. Like, Cuz I also didn't want to out that I had been using the Internet, but I was like, no, this is somebody I know. And he was like, it's someone you follow. And I was like, no, it's like. And like, I like, just didn't know how to like, explain it to him. And I was like. And he. He was like, didn't know how to help me. He was like. He was like, I. I don't get it. Like, is. Have you seen this person before? And I was like, yes. But like. And on my phone, like, it was just so funny to like, try to explain that to him. I remember like, being at the beach and just being like. And I also. It was funny because like, at that time I like, I. I like, had friends, but again, I was so reserved, like, I didn't really have anyone to talk to about it, which was also like such a crazy thing. But that's a whole other topic. But like, yeah, it's just so funny. Like, my dad had no idea. Like, I had a whole community of like a lie. Like, he literally, like, he was so unaware of that.
- [59:13]
Drew
It's like Hannah Montana.
- [59:14]
Josiah
I was living a double life. I literally.
- [59:16]
Drew
Was that the first time anybody's cried on the podcast?
- [59:20]
Josiah
Maybe.
- [59:21]
Drew
Oh my God. Wow.
- [59:26]
Josiah
But yeah, I just remember, like, my dad just didn't know, dude. He had no idea. I think he had an inkling. Like, he's not like, dumb. My dad isn't like, he wasn't like, what's the Internet? Like, he had Facebook, but he wasn't like, using it, like, for like, to meet different people. I don't really think he still is doing that. Like, whatever.
- [59:46]
Drew
Well, I saw your dad on Grindr.
- [59:52]
Josiah
Are you kidding me?
- [59:54]
Drew
Yeah. So he is using it to meet people.
- [59:57]
Josiah
You didn't like, interact with them?
- [59:59]
Drew
No, we matched and oh my God, I hit like Crazy the second time someone's cried on the podcast.
- [60:09]
Josiah
But, yeah, I don't even know why I got into that.
- [60:10]
Drew
Oh.
- [60:10]
Josiah
But I was just basically, yeah, my dad had no idea that I, like, had so many friends on the Internet. And I think, like, even, like, I think when I went to press play, he. He knew maybe that I knew Christian, because my dad was like, how did this even happen? And I was like, well, one of my, like, like, friends who I follow, like, added me on or whatever, because Christian was also, like, the second person I had, like, spoken to on the phone. I remember he spoke to me on the phone because he was basically recruiting me for press play because we had all been, like, texting and talking so much. Like, not vocally, but we had been talking so much, like, that whole, like, crew that was forming. And I was like. He was like, can I call you? Because, like, I need to ask, like, I'm confused. Like, what's your setup? And I was like, oh, my God. And then Christian ended up telling me that he was in the same position, that, like, his parents still were kind of, like, confused about it. Like, he was, like, on press play, but they were still like, don't talk to new people on the Internet. Like, they were, like, still very, like, don't. Because, like, we. We've seen who you know, and we don't want you to keep meeting random people because you've lived this far without being kidnapped, but you will be kidnapped.
- [61:11]
Drew
And he told me it is surprising that we weren't kidnapped by. It is really shocking.
- [61:17]
Josiah
I mean, we basically were.
- [61:18]
Drew
Yeah, we were held captive emotionally, but, yeah, I remember with my parents, they, like, genuinely didn't care. They were like, whatever. Like, do whatever you want.
- [61:30]
Josiah
Next episode, we'll. We'll talk about the tour because, like, I can't. We. We need to just talk about it.
- [61:34]
Drew
Because, like, yeah, we need Christian on, but he'll never do that.
- [61:37]
Josiah
Yeah, that's just too much.
- [61:38]
Drew
Yeah, it was. It was a lot. We did. There was a lot of. Of crazy that we got into that went down this weird, weird vibes, but it was also life changing, and, like, I would change it for the world.
- [61:54]
Josiah
And it was fun because I got to see you guys, and that's what solidified my friendship is, like, meeting you guys. I remember.
- [62:00]
Drew
Give me that. Snot him. I love you. And I loved everything we've accomplished together.
- [62:05]
Josiah
I love you too. Here's to only going up, up or failing in a burning fire.
- [62:10]
Drew
Yeah, we either go up from here or we go down and down and down and down. And we make our s. Word pact come true.
- [62:20]
Josiah
Oh, that's.
- [62:21]
Drew
That's coming soon.
- [62:24]
Josiah
But, yeah. Ten years of the Internet. Ten years of knowing all these goals.
- [62:30]
Drew
Two years of this.
- [62:32]
Josiah
Almost two years. It's so crazy. It's, like, insane.
- [62:37]
Drew
When is two years? One hundred and four episodes. Damn. We have, like, half of a year. More than half of a year.
- [62:43]
Josiah
We haven't been doing this for as long as it's felt, but, yeah, just insane that, like, all of my first friends from the Internet I like, contact with and, like, some of them are now or, like, people I see, like, constantly or. And, like, I live with them. Yeah. It's, like, too much.
- [63:02]
Drew
I can't handle anybody.
- [63:04]
Josiah
Like, sometimes when I. Like every time we're, like, all in a group, there's, like, always the moment of realization when I look at all these freaks and I'm like, oh, my God.
- [63:11]
Drew
Like, we grew up together. We're old as fuck now. Well, I want to talk about one more thing. One more thing, and we'll touch on it just briefly, and then we'll go. We'll see it and then. Or we'll talk more in depth about it in the next episode. But have you seen the new SpongeBob Mandela effect? Have you? It's really jarring. Okay, so you know the episode where he plays guitar?
- [63:41]
Josiah
Yeah. Wait, the movie where he plays the guitar?
- [63:44]
Drew
Yeah.
- [63:44]
Josiah
It's like he's, like, on the strings.
- [63:46]
Drew
Yeah, yeah. What. Can you describe the guitar he was playing?
- [63:53]
Josiah
Oh, it was. It, like, white and big, and it was like. Not like, super big, but it, like, it had, like, points.
- [64:01]
Drew
Yes, that's what everyone remembers. But this is the guitar that is now, like, in the Mandela. Like, that's it. And this is what everybody remembers.
- [64:13]
Josiah
Yeah, that's. That's what it was.
- [64:14]
Drew
Yeah, but it's not. This is a fan rendition, and this is the real one.
- [64:21]
Josiah
No, because I remember it being pointy.
- [64:23]
Drew
I. I remember it, too. And I remember it having two heads for some reason.
- [64:27]
Josiah
Yeah. I remember having, like. I remember it different.
- [64:30]
Drew
Yeah, but isn't that crazy?
- [64:32]
Josiah
Are you sure they didn't just, like, reanimate it?
- [64:34]
Drew
No, because you can even go back on the VHS tapes and the DVDs or whatever and look at it. And it's the peanut. I. I don't. The Goofy Goober.
- [64:43]
Josiah
Yeah. I never noticed that. It was.
- [64:45]
Drew
And it's crazy that I asked you and you said white and pointy, because that's literally what everyone remembers. And if you don't you're from a different timeline, and you weren't. You were always here. You didn't shift timelines with us. But I have this theory that Mandela Effect is, like, quantum hackers, like, hacking the code and, like, dropping little trinkets or little things into, like, our reality to make us realize that, like, oh, like, we have these abilities to, like, quantum, like, affect quantum mechanics or physics and, like, completely shift the timeline forever. That or the CERN laser. Every time it drops or every time it collides, it shifts us into a different reality. And, like, some things are just lost along the way or some things are changed. But, like, if you remember something from the past reality, you shifted. And if you don't, you were already here. If you remember the. So, like, for example, like, if you remember the white guitar, you shifted realities when CERN zapped its laser. And if you remember the peanut guitar, you didn't and you were already in this reality and you're. Yeah. Crazy. It's crazy.
- [65:53]
Josiah
Or, like, maybe it's just because, like, what we.