What if refuge in grief is not a place where pain disappears, but a small moment where you can finally breathe? In this heartfelt episode of Enduring Grief, Sarah Peterson sits down with Marlis and Dean to talk about finding steadiness when loss feels too heavy to carry. Together, they explore what true refuge can look like, from feeling your feet on the ground to calling a friend, reaching out to 988, or reconnecting with nature, faith, ancestors, and inner wisdom. They also speak honestly about false refuge, the pull to escape, and the brave work of learning who you are after loss. This conversation offers gentle reminders that grief and love are deeply connected, and even in the hardest moments, you are not alone.

Episode highlights:

(2:29) Finding refuge in grief

(4:46) Taking the next breath

(7:30) False refuge versus real safety

(10:07) Losing and rediscovering yourself

(15:24) Self-soothing tools for grief

(22:13) Letting go of control

(28:48) How supporters can help

(32:43) Going into the “hole” of grief

(42:27) When grief feels scary and isolating

(43:08) Asking for help and calling 988

(47:31) Faith, ancestors, and inner sources of comfort

(51:39) Creating daily practices for support

Connect with Sarah:

✅ Instagram: instagram.com/clearmourning

✅ Official Website: clearmourning.org

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