
What happens when a nearly-dead church with fifteen faithful seniors, aging heating ducts, and nine and a half acres gets a second chance? Pastor Nic sits down with John Sekutowski and Mike Beresford, two former High Point staff who left the comfort of an 800-person church to gamble everything on a congregation that had already given up. They talk candidly about the moment an interim pastor told them not to bother, the awkward middle years of building trust with people afraid of losing their identity, and the strange, almost embarrassing ways new people actually started showing up (hint: it involves a full parking lot and zero invitations). Along the way they get into what changes theologically and relationally when you go from renting your role in a big machine to owning every square foot of a small one, why breakthroughs are never as spontaneous as they look, and what it actually costs to disciple people your own preaching created.
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