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Enneagram Mapmakers with Christopher Heuertz
Hosted by Christopher Heuertz · EN
Enneagram Mapmakers explores the interior landscape of the ego through conversations with legacy teachers such as Richard Rohr, Helen Palmer and Russ Hudson. Hosted by Christopher Heuertz, author of The Sacred Enneagram and The Enneagram of Belonging, this podcast journeys to the origins of an ancient and often misunderstood system designed to help us live a more embodied and integrated life. Transcend the temptation to fixate on a specific number and discover how to embrace all types within you.
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Bonus: Caring for Our Inner Child
Jul 28, 202100:25:08Summary readyIn this bonus episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris Heuertz reflects on ways to care for our own vulnerabilities, our own inner child during this time of uncertainty. Chris offers nine Enneagram type-specific guided Loving Kindness Mediations to help each of us find our center by welling up gentle compassion and radical self-acceptance for the parts of ourselves that are struggling with grief, fear, or frustration. In this heart-felt reflection Chris offers clues to coming into greater awareness of your own belovedness. The method, prompts, and Enneagram type specific Loving Kindness Mediations can be found here: https://gravitycenter.com/practice/loving-kindness/
SummaryRuss Hudson
Jun 30, 202101:18:18Tap to summarizeThis is the last episode of Season 1 of Enneagram Mapmakers where Chris Heuertz interviews Russ Hudson, the co-founder of the Enneagram Institute and co-author of The Wisdom of the Enneagram. Russ addresses the divide between the Enneagram of Personality and the Gurdjieffian studies of the Enneagram, his friendship and working relationship with the late Done Riso, and Russ also candidly shares his own introduction to the Enneagram and his story of mistyping himself. The show concludes with Russ reflecting on his hopes for the future of this teaching and the movement that’s grow around it.
Transcribe →Jack Labanauskas
Jun 30, 202101:08:57Tap to summarizeIn this episode Jack Labanauskas reflects on the evolution of the Enneagram’s modern expression through his thorough engagement with anyone who’s made a significant contribution to the system over the past 30 years. Jack offers an intimate snapshot of the very private life and mind of the late Óscar Ichazo—especially his attitude towards using the Enneagram to describe personality. Jack also offers some hope for where the tradition can go if we remain openminded and openhearted. Jack Labanauskas is the preeminent historian of the modern Enneagram of Personality. He’s been editing Enneagram Monthly for the past 25 years, creating a peer-review forum for innovative ideas to find life in conversation with the EnneaCurious.
Transcribe →Michael Goldberg
Jun 30, 202100:59:40Tap to summarizen this episode Michael Goldberg talks about mythology and the Enneagram. He reflects on learning the Enneagram from his old neighbors, Óscar Ichazo’s Arican Institute. Michael also asserts the wings are more important than our Enneagram base point, or our dominant the, explaining this through thoughts on how movement is essential in working our Enneagram type. Michael is a writer, speaker and consultant, he is also a long time teacher of the Enneagram approach to personality types. His books include The 9 Ways of Working: How to Use the Enneagram to Discover Your Natural Strengths and Work More Effectively and his brilliant work mapping the Enneagram through Homer’s epic poem, The Odyssey in Travels with Odysseus: Uncommon Wisdom from Homer's Odyssey.
Transcribe →Helen Palmer
Jun 30, 202101:05:51Tap to summarizeOn this episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris sits down with Helen Palmer. She is among the most influential Enneagram teachers and authors in the modern era of this tradition. Her first book The Enneagram: Understanding Yourself and the Others In Your Life, set the standard for type descriptions and has become an international bestseller. In this episode Helen guides us in an inner witness awareness practice. Not only is this Helen’s very first podcast but her vulnerability here is inspiring as she reveals parts of her story publicly for the first time. Helen Palmer is a teacher of psychology and intuition, and a Core Faculty member of The Narrative Enneagram. In 1994, Helen and the late Dr. David Daniels co-chaired the first International Enneagram Conference at Stanford University. She is also a Founding Director of the International Enneagram Association.
Transcribe →Jerry Wagner
Jun 30, 202101:05:37Tap to summarizeIf you are looking for credible academic research studies on the Enneagram, then you’ll love Chris’s conversation with Dr. Jerry Wagner on this week’s episode of Enneagram Mapmakers. Jerry’s wisdom reminds us that we typically view the world through lenses but usually don’t examine the lenses themselves. He’s candid and vulnerable, while provocative in untangling some of the Enneagram’s convoluted theories. Jerry Wagner is a retired teaching professor in the Department of Psychology at Loyola University, Chicago and was among the earliest students of the Enneagram in the United States. His statistically validated Wagner Enneagram Personality Style Scales (WEPPS) is one of the most reliable Enneagram tests available. He’s also the author of several books including Nine Lenses on the World: the Enneagram Perspective and The Enneagram Spectrum of Personality Styles: an Introductory Guide.
Transcribe →Sandra Maitri
Jun 30, 202100:51:41Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris Heuertz interviews the author of The Spiritual Dimension of the Enneagram and The Enneagram of Passions and Virtues, Sandra Maitri. During their conversation, Sandra reflects back on the role she played as a university student in helping develop Enneagram Types with Claudio Naranjo with his first SAT groups. She also explains how the popular Enneagram theories of “integration” and “disintegration” are actually misunderstandings. Sandra Maitri is an artist, an author, and an Enneagram teacher. She was among the first group of students to whom the Chilean psychiatrist Claudio Naranjo presented the Enneagram system in the United States in the early seventies. She is currently a supervising teacher of the Diamond Approach® to Inner Realization.
Transcribe →Marion Gilbert
Jun 30, 202101:01:01Tap to summarizeIn this second episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris interviews Marion Gilbert. In this episode they talk about what it was like for her to bring the somatic into the Enneagram conversation, how she understands type and how we can bring a 3 centered awareness to nourish our spirituality. Marion has been actively using the Enneagram system — an emotional-cognitive map of human personality structure — professionally and personally for the past 12 years. She emphasizes using somatic experience for the facilitation of personal and spiritual transformation in the Narrative Tradition Enneagram, with a specific interest in developing somatic experience in relationship to increased awareness and integration.
Transcribe →Richard Rohr
Jun 29, 202100:53:59Tap to summarizeIn this first episode of Enneagram Mapmakers, Chris interviews Father Richard Rohr at his non- profit in Albuquerque, New Mexico. He is the first Legacy Teacher in this season because he was one of Chris's first teachers of the Enneagram. In this episode they talk about Richard's history with the Enneagram, why he stopped teaching it and how the Enneagram has helped him move from the inner critic to the compassionate observer. Father Richard Rohr is a Franciscan Friar and the founder of The Center for Action and Contemplation, a non-profit located in Albuquerque, NM.
Transcribe →Coming Soon: The Legacy Teachers
Jun 2, 202100:02:33Tap to summarizeIntroducing Enneagram Mapmakers, a podcast that explores the interior landscape of the ego through conversations with enneagram legacy teachers such as Richard Rohr, Helen Palmer, Russ Hudson and more. Hosted by Christopher Heuertz, author of The Sacred Enneagram and The Enneagram of Belonging, this podcast journeys to the origins of an ancient and often misunderstood system designed to help us live a more embodied and integrated life. Transcend the temptation to fixate on a specific number and discover how to embrace all types within you. Coming March 24th, 2020 from the Center for Action and Contemplation. Special thanks to Ryan O'Neal for the music to this show.
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