In this episode of the Equip Podcast, Mark is joined by high school seniors Brenna Van Cleave and his son Owen for a conversation about what it looks like to grow in wisdom during the “spring” season of life. As part of a broader series on the seasons of life, this episode focuses on youth and the unique challenges young people face today.

Through an honest and practical conversation, they explore what it means to pursue godliness in a digital world shaped by smartphones, social media, and constant connectivity. With insight for both students and parents, this episode offers a window into how the next generation is learning to follow Jesus with wisdom and intentionality.

Episode Highlights

00:27 — Introducing Brenna and Owen
00:54 — The “seasons of life” series and youth as the springtime of life
01:49 — Giving parents a window into what it’s like to be a teenager today

02:53 — Where teenagers actually find godly wisdom
03:36 — Big questions, youth leaders, and the people who shaped their faith
04:49 — Why being invited into someone’s life matters as much as Bible study

06:57 — Choosing close friends who are growing in godliness
07:41 — Friendship and how peers shape the stories of your life
10:57 — Looking ahead to college and the challenge of finding the right people

14:40 — Social media, texting, and how digital communication can be harmful
16:41 — Why some teenagers are trying to step back from social media
18:25 — The dating scene in high school and how it feels different now

22:54 — How young people hear dating advice and future family wisdom
24:11 — The “anxious generation” and fear of failure
26:06 — Why young people need real community that pushes them toward growth

28:39 — What Brenna and Owen would say to younger students about choosing a path
30:48 — Final reflections on how to seek wisdom from Scripture, mentors, sermons, and podcasts

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Pursuing Wisdom in Your Teens with Owen & Brenna