Podcast Summary: Every Outfit Episode 215 – On Severance, The White Lotus, Lana del Rey (Feat. Loren Kramar)

Hosts: Chelsea Fairless & Lauren Garroni
Release Date: April 4, 2025
Guest: Loren Kramar
Podcast Description: Every Outfit is a weekly show blending fashion and pop culture commentary, hosted by Chelsea Fairless and Lauren Garroni. Known for their sharp fashion insights, the duo delves into various aspects of popular culture with humor and depth.

1. Opening Banter and Technical Glitches ([00:04] - [01:10])

The episode kicks off with Chelsea and Lauren addressing minor technical difficulties, humorously attributing the chaos to Mercury being in retrograde. Chelsea quips, “I spent $40,000 on shoes” ([00:04]), setting a light-hearted tone. They joke about their lack of audio engineering skills, lamenting the challenge of balancing content creation with technical woes.

2. Skims Los Angeles Store Opening ([01:12] - [03:45])

Chelsea and Lauren share their excitement about attending the Skims Los Angeles store opening. Chelsea describes the store as “very curvy, very beige” ([01:28]) and praises the mannequins for showcasing extreme body diversity in a “Kardashian proportion way” ([01:53]). They highlight the store’s influence on the Sunset Strip, mentioning nearby luxury boutiques like Supreme and H. Lorenzo, anticipating a resurgence in the area’s popularity ([02:22]).

3. Transformation of Mel’s Diner ([03:13] - [04:10])

The hosts discuss Mel's Diner’s makeover by Skims, emphasizing its all-beige aesthetic and Skims branding. Chelsea remarks, “Everything was beige. Everything had Skims branding” ([03:45]), while Lauren humorously relates to feeling out of place, likening her experience to Leslie Mann’s character in Knocked Up ([04:10]). They reflect on living within their Los Angeles bubble, recognizing the Instagram-driven culture dominating the city ([04:17]).

4. April Fool’s Day Reflections ([13:38] - [14:22])

After a brief advertisement break, Chelsea emphasizes the overuse of April Fool’s Day pranks in the digital age, stating, “we don’t need more fake news” ([13:38]). Both hosts express frustration over deceptive pranks causing confusion, especially when significant news, like actor deaths, are falsely announced ([14:10]).

5. Pop Culture News ([14:22] - [31:25])

a. Val Kilmer’s Death ([05:17] - [07:21])

The announcement of Val Kilmer’s passing shocks the hosts. Lauren confirms, “Val Kilmer died” ([05:24]), leading to heartfelt condolences. Chelsea mentions Kilmer’s memorable roles, though admitting limited familiarity with his full filmography ([06:07]). They reminisce about his performances, suggesting “The Saint” and “Kiss Kiss Bang Bang” for listeners ([07:21]).

b. Tarantino’s Sequel to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood ([07:29] - [11:17])

A purported sequel to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, reportedly written by Quentin Tarantino and directed by David Fincher, becomes a topic of skepticism. Lauren critiques Tarantino’s self-imposed rule to limit himself to ten films, questioning the logic behind not returning to filmmaking despite his passion ([10:56]).

Chelsea counters, suggesting experienced directors like Martin Scorsese could challenge Tarantino’s stance on aging and creativity ([11:06]). They debate the feasibility and creative implications of such a project, ultimately dismissing it as unrealistic ([11:17]).

6. Sex and the City Updates ([14:22] - [16:58])

a. Sarah Jessica Parker Turns 60 ([14:31] - [15:08])

Chelsea announces Sarah Jessica Parker’s 60th birthday, reminiscing about her iconic 40th celebration at the Plaza ([15:01]). They reflect on Parker and Matthew Broderick’s status as a power couple in the late '90s, likening their cultural influence to royalty in New York ([15:08]).

b. Kim Cattrall’s Charlotte Tilbury Campaign ([15:44] - [17:27])

The hosts discuss Kim Cattrall becoming the face of Charlotte Tilbury’s Pillow Talk campaign. Lauren highlights the campaign’s aesthetic, noting the heart-shaped blush compacts and Kim’s adept British accent portrayal ([16:23]). Chelsea praises the attention the campaign garners, tying it to Kim’s viral appeal from the Skims campaign ([17:09]).

7. The White Lotus Analysis ([21:18] - [29:01])

a. General Impressions ([21:18] - [22:10])

Chelsea and Lauren provide an in-depth analysis of The White Lotus. Lauren initially felt vindicated as the show delivered unexpected plot twists despite early pacing criticisms ([22:10]). They discuss their favorites and less favored storylines, such as the character “Guy Talk” and the Southern dad subplot ([22:27], [23:09]).

b. Character Dynamics ([23:22] - [29:01])

The hosts delve into character development, praising Patrick Schwarzenegger’s performance ([23:39]). They explore the moral compass of characters, highlighting how Mike White creates unlikable yet complex personas. Lauren criticizes the superficial portrayal of friendships, while Chelsea appreciates the depth added to the brothers’ incest storyline ([23:50], [23:53], [25:40]). They discuss plot resolutions and character arcs, emphasizing the show's brilliance in subverting expectations ([28:13], [29:01]).

8. Severance Discussion ([29:47] - [37:05])

a. Season Review ([29:47] - [32:16])

Chelsea confesses limited understanding of Severance episodes but remains captivated by the show's mystery ([29:47]). Lauren shares struggles with the show’s complex narrative, likening it to an accidental placement in an AP trig class ([30:12]). They discuss subreddit debates and fan theories, pondering the show's financial aspects and implications of the severance procedure ([30:28], [32:16]).

b. Plot and Character Analysis ([32:39] - [37:05])

The hosts analyze key plot points, such as the off-site retreat and character motivations. Chelsea points out the show’s gripping nature despite initial episode confusion ([31:58]). Lauren raises questions about the company’s operations and financial sustainability, while Chelsea muses about the potential military applications of severance ([32:39], [34:04]). They critique specific episodes, lauding Patrick Schwarzenegger’s monologues and character developments ([34:31], [35:12], [35:39], [37:05]).

9. The Studio Show Review ([37:15] - [44:06])

Lauren introduces The Studio, a new Seth Rogen-led Apple TV show about a struggling Hollywood movie studio. Both hosts express mixed feelings, praising the show’s aesthetic while critiquing its dialogue for lacking authenticity ([38:08], [38:40]). Chelsea highlights the show’s architectural beauty, though she questions its grounding in real Hollywood dynamics ([39:05], [39:40]). They discuss character portrayals and industry parallels, noting Seth Rogen’s role within the show ([40:21], [44:06]).

10. Guest Appearance: Loren Kramar ([47:56] - [96:22])

a. Beatles Film Project ([48:30] - [57:05])

Loren Kramar, a musician and artist, joins the podcast to discuss Sam Mendes’ ambitious Beatles biopic project. The project’s plan to release four interconnected films in April 2028, each focusing on a different Beatle, sparks both excitement and skepticism. Chelsea envisions binge-watching the films, while Lauren humorously critiques the casting choices, questioning the alignment of actors like Barry Keoghan and Harris Dickinson with their respective Beatles counterparts ([50:25], [53:02], [56:07]).

b. Lauren’s EP – "Living Legend" ([67:12] - [84:25])

Loren shares insights into her new EP, consisting of Lana del Rey covers. She recounts the origin of the project, starting with a live soundtrack for a fashion show and evolving into a personal collection of “bitchy” covers ([67:40], [68:55]). The hosts express admiration for Loren’s interpretations, particularly her rendition of “Hope is a Dangerous Thing for a Woman Like Me to Have” ([69:03], [72:11]). They delve into the creative process, discussing Lana del Rey’s intricate references and the emotional depth of her songs ([70:19], [74:20]).

c. Vogue World Event ([86:47] - [95:45])

Chelsea recounts attending the Vogue World event at the Chateau Marmont, highlighting interactions with fashion legends like Colleen Atwood and Ariane Phillips. The event, centered around film and costume design, left Chelsea and Loren starstruck. They speculate on the nature of Vogue World, musing over its format and purpose, while sharing humorous anecdotes about navigating the high-profile gathering ([86:47], [88:25], [94:10], [95:45]).

d. Fashion Industry Insights ([77:00] - [84:25])

The conversation shifts to high-level fashion industry shifts, discussing Proenza Schouler’s leadership changes and the potential impacts on brands like Loewe and Dries Van Noten. Chelsea and Lauren express nostalgia for iconic designers and debate the future direction of luxury fashion houses, blending their personal preferences with industry rumors ([78:02], [80:01], [81:56]).

11. Closing Remarks and Musical Outro ([96:01] - End)

As the episode draws to a close, Loren performs an emotional rendition of “Hope is a Dangerous Thing for a Woman Like Me to Have,” encapsulating the episode’s blend of personal storytelling and cultural critique ([96:07] - [101:59]). The hosts express gratitude to Loren, encouraging listeners to support her EP and tease future episodes during Chelsea’s upcoming maternity leave ([96:19], [96:54]).

Notable Quotes:

• Chelsea Fairless: “I spent $40,000 on shoes.” ([00:04])

• Lauren Garroni: “Not an earworm” – referring to her favorite song from Lauren’s EP ([63:09])

• Chelsea Fairless: “Hope is a dangerous thing for a woman like me to have. But I have it.” ([96:07])

• Guest Speaker (Loren Kramar): Performs an emotional rendition of “Hope is a Dangerous Thing for a Woman Like Me to Have” ([96:01] - End)

Conclusion

In Episode 215 of Every Outfit, Chelsea Fairless and Lauren Garroni navigate a rich tapestry of topics ranging from high-end fashion events and pop culture tragedies to deep dives into acclaimed TV series like The White Lotus and Severance. Their engaging dialogue, punctuated with humor and insightful critiques, offers listeners a comprehensive exploration of the intersection between fashion and popular media. The guest appearance by Loren Kramar adds a personal touch, blending musical artistry with industry commentary. Whether discussing the feasibility of Quentin Tarantino’s hypothetical sequel or dissecting the nuanced performances in The White Lotus, the hosts maintain a lively and informative conversation that captivates both fashion aficionados and pop culture enthusiasts alike.