Podcast Summary: Every Outfit – Episode 228: "On And Just Like That: Silent Mode" (Feat. Gabriel Held & Queenie Satine)
Release Date: July 5, 2025
Introduction
In Episode 228 of the Every Outfit podcast titled "On And Just Like That: Silent Mode," hosts Chelsea Fairless and Lauren Garroni delve into the latest developments of the popular series And Just Like That. Joined by special guests Gabriel Held and Queenie Satine—two of New York’s most stylish personalities—the episode offers a comprehensive recap of episode six, "Silent Mode," while also exploring broader themes in fashion and popular culture.
Recap of "And Just Like That" Episode Six: "Silent Mode"
Aiden's Infidelity and Relationship Dynamics
The discussion kicks off with Gabriel Held highlighting the progression of the love triangle involving Carrie, Aiden, and Duncan:
Gabriel Held [00:56]: "It feels like we know where the season is going, at least for Carrie, and I think we have an honest to goodness love triangle going on."
Chelsea echoes this sentiment, emphasizing the nuanced portrayal of relationships:
Chelsea Fairless [01:23]: "I feel like this is the most important episode that we've gotten since the first episode this season."
The hosts dissect Aiden’s controversial actions, including his infidelity with Kathy, which marks a significant shift in his character development:
Chelsea Fairless [08:35]: "She immediately apologized, was like, I will take care of this."
Gabriel Held [11:06]: "Aiden and his situation is so nonsensical. But fine. I'm glad we are finally in episode six addressing how ridiculous their situation is."
Miranda and Seema's Plotline: Apartment Hunting and Financial Struggles
The conversation transitions to Miranda (LTW) and Seema’s storyline, focusing on their struggles with finding pet-friendly apartments and financial constraints:
Queenie Satine [14:03]: "But it is 150 over asking, so Miranda declines."
Chelsea Fairless [15:30]: "Miranda did introduce Joy to Brady, which seemed a little soon to me."
They explore the themes of work-life balance and the repercussions of LTW’s decision to keep her phone on silent, leading to missing critical personal moments:
Gabriel Held [16:56]: "She's dealing with the struggle of being pulled between her family life and her work life."
Chelsea Fairless [17:00]: "It’s sadistic. What happens to LTW?"
Funeral Scene Dynamics and Character Interactions
The hosts analyze the emotionally charged funeral scene of LTW’s father, noting the presence of multiple characters and the lack of genuine interaction from some:
Queenie Satine [20:42]: "It was giving a black Camelot vibe for sure."
Gabriel Held [22:25]: "Well, LTW is very busy. She has a lot going on with her documentary."
The discussion highlights the superficial nature of some character interactions at the funeral:
Queenie Satine [22:37]: "All of Carrie, nor Miranda, nor Anthony, nor Giuseppe, who are in the third and fourth row, shout out their memories because they don't have any with LTW's father."
Charlotte and Harry’s Subplot: Health Struggles and Friendship
The episode further delves into Charlotte’s challenges as she supports Harry through his prostate cancer diagnosis. This subplot is compared to past dynamics in Sex and the City, showcasing character growth:
Chelsea Fairless [28:03]: "She had to act as a vault for Charlotte, providing emotional support during her crisis."
Queenie Satine [28:11]: "I found this very upsetting because I feel so bad for Charlotte."
Special Guests: Gabriel Held & Queenie Satine
Introductions and Backgrounds
Chelsea introduces Gabriel Held and Queenie Satine, emphasizing their fashion expertise and long-standing friendship:
Chelsea Fairless [30:11]: "But I will be back with a very special guest... Gabriel Held and Queenie Satine."
Gabriel and Queenie share anecdotes about their 20+ years of friendship, setting the stage for an engaging discussion on fashion and personal style.
Fashion Collecting and Recent Purchases
Guest's Latest Fashion Acquisitions
Gabriel and Queenie delve into their latest fashion purchases, showcasing their unique styles and passion for high-end brands:
Lauren Garrone [39:46]: "I'm back in New York... trying to get the Manolo rainbow."
Queenie Satine [41:08]: "But I bought them from Ranjana Khan. And let's drop a photo here because they're quite extravagant and psycho."
They discuss their fondness for brands like Manolo Blahnik, reflecting on their personal collections and the stories behind each piece.
Chelsea's Fashion Finds
Chelsea shares her recent fashion purchases, highlighting the eclectic and bold choices that define her style:
Chelsea Fairless [44:23]: "I got this at the Loewe outlet in Cabazon... the handbag and both of the shirts."
The conversation underscores the personal connection each host and guest has with their fashion items, blending functionality with high fashion aesthetics.
Discussion on Recent Fashion Shows
Marc Jacobs’ New York Show
The guests provide a critical analysis of Marc Jacobs' latest show, noting the oversized proportions and doll-like elements:
Queenie Satine [52:57]: "Both in terms of thoughts and just the general presentation."
Lauren Garrone [53:23]: "I don't know what would you say, like, 30 years until, like, five years ago."
Dior Men's Fashion Week
The recap includes thoughts on Dior's Men's Fashion Week, with comparisons to past collections and ongoing themes:
Queenie Satine [63:16]: "Laurie from Little Women by way of 80s Ralph Lauren Polo and Calvin Klein jeans..."
Chelsea Fairless [63:19]: "I liked it."
Prada Men's Show
Prada’s latest men's show is discussed, focusing on the bold styling choices and their impact on contemporary fashion:
Queenie Satine [63:31]: "I think Carrie would wear one, certainly."
Lauren Garrone [64:21]: "Like, khaki diapers and, like, trench coats. Button to the top."
Telfar's 20th Anniversary Show
Celebrating Telfar’s two-decade milestone, the conversation praises the brand’s commitment to accessibility and functionality:
Queenie Satine [78:53]: "But kudos on 20 years. That's really, like, at our age, that's impressive."
Lauren Garrone [80:17]: "Literally, it's like, a new standard, which is really cool."
Documentaries Highlighted
"My Mom Jane" – Mariska Hargitay’s Documentary
The hosts discuss My Mom Jane, a documentary by Mariska Hargitay exploring the life of her mother, Jayne Mansfield:
Chelsea Fairless [82:33]: "Especially, like, I know you're such an SVU fan."
Queenie Satine [85:10]: "In her, I feel like.
The documentary’s impact on Mariska’s personal and professional life is examined, drawing parallels between her mother’s struggles and her own character in SVU.
"Enygma" – Amanda Lear and April Ashley
Enygma, a documentary directed by Zachary Drucker, delves into the lives of pioneering trans women Amanda Lear and April Ashley. The discussion highlights the complexities of their relationship and their respective journeys:
Queenie Satine [99:57]: "It was a lot for people to process."
Lauren Garrone [102:27]: "But this is really the only thing that she's done that has been sort of outside of that for, like, a long time herself."
The hosts commend the documentary for shedding light on historical trans narratives and the challenges faced by Amanda Lear and April Ashley.
Fashion Reflections and Cultural Impact
Influence of "Sex and the City" on Personal Style
Gabriel and Queenie reflect on how Sex and the City has influenced their fashion sensibilities, particularly the high-low mix and iconic accessories:
Queenie Satine [35:43]: "The high low mix. That certainly became a governing principle in my approach to styling."
Chelsea Fairless [35:40]: "You’re wearing a nameplate necklace... Carrie confirmed."
The conversation underscores the lasting legacy of the show in shaping contemporary fashion trends and personal wardrobes.
Collecting and Wearing Iconic Pieces
The guests discuss the importance of collecting and owning iconic fashion pieces, from Manolo Blahniks to limited-edition collaborations:
Queenie Satine [41:08]: "But I bought them from Ranjana Khan. And let's drop a photo here because they're quite extravagant and psycho."
Lauren Garrone [43:37]: "So good."
Their enthusiasm for high fashion and unique pieces highlights the intersection of personal passion and professional involvement in the fashion industry.
Conclusion
Episode 228 of Every Outfit masterfully intertwines a detailed recap of And Just Like That with in-depth discussions on fashion trends, personal style, and influential documentaries. With the insightful contributions of Gabriel Held and Queenie Satine, listeners gain a multifaceted perspective on how popular culture and fashion continually shape and redefine each other. The episode concludes on a heartfelt note, celebrating enduring friendships and the ever-evolving landscape of fashion.
Chelsea Fairless [113:21]: "We love you, Lauren. And to everyone else, bye bye. We will see you next week."
This episode of Every Outfit serves as both a nostalgic look back at beloved TV narratives and a forward-thinking exploration of current and emerging trends in the fashion world, making it a must-listen for enthusiasts eager to stay connected with both on-screen and real-world style evolutions.