Every Outfit – Episode 243: On Diane Keaton, Wendy Williams, Victoria Beckham

Hosts: Chelsea Fairless & Lauren Garrone
Date: October 17, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode of Every Outfit is a bittersweet, bitchy, and hilariously candid review of a very eventful week in pop culture and fashion. Chelsea and Lauren mourn personal and cultural losses (RIP Diane Keaton, Mr. Big the dog), serve up acerbic commentary on a variety of current events, and taste-test ridiculous celebrity beverages. They dive deep into the Wendy Williams conservatorship saga, the highs and lows of the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show reboot, and a critique of the new Victoria Beckham documentary. There's even a rapid-fire review of the new Paul Thomas Anderson film—and a Joan Rivers memorabilia lament. As ever, the tone is snarky, self-aware, and peppered with genuinely insightful, often emotional commentary.

Tasting Celebrity Beverages

[01:30-06:44]

• The hosts begin by sampling two celebrity beverages:
  • Ben Stiller’s Shirley Temple canned soda:
    • “It’s not comparable to a full fat Shirley Temple … but it’s less gross than most of these probiotic sodas.” – Chelsea [05:56]
  • Billy Corgan’s Erewhon smoothie ("OG Goth"):
    • Thick, gray, made with coconut goo, almond milk, cacao, and black sesame butter.
    • Lauren recounts a cashier warning: “It’s really thick and it’s really peanut buttery.” [03:22]
    • Both are bemused by the lack of pumpkin in a Smashing Pumpkins tie-in.
    • “We’re fully drinking mud. This is mud, with like, some crazy protein powder in here.” – Chelsea [05:00]
• Mocking the absurd cost ($40 for the smoothie). Lauren is determined to finish it on principle regardless of how awful it tastes.

Notable Moment

• "Despite all my rage, I'm still just a bat in a cage." – Lauren, misquoting Smashing Pumpkins and prompting Chelsea’s mock outrage [05:26]

Mourning Mr. Big (Chelsea’s Dog)

[07:04-10:16]

• Chelsea shares sad news: her dog Mr. Big has passed away.
  • “If I didn’t laugh, I would cry.”—Chelsea [07:30]
  • Recalls the surreal “Make-a-Wish” period feeding gourmet food because the vet said he had only a week left, only for him to hang on for months.
  • They note the uncanny timing: both hosts and many friends have lost dogs recently, as have many characters in pop culture.
  • Lauren jokes: “They’re gonna think that we’ve done something to these dogs.” [09:34]

Remembering Diane Keaton

[10:16-22:34]

• The hosts pay emotional tribute to Diane Keaton, reflecting on why her death feels so shocking and personal.
  • “I can’t remember the last time I’d been quite this upset about a celebrity dying.” – Chelsea [11:03]
  • Discuss the confusing trend of media posting black-and-white photos that look like obits for older celebrities.
  • Keaton's death from pneumonia and long-term health issues is discussed along with her architectural and artistic legacy.
  • Chelsea credits Keaton's uniform style for her timelessness:
    • “Like Andy Warhol said, people that have uniforms are more untouched by the passage of time … that’s so true of her.” – Chelsea [12:51]
  • They touch on Keaton’s achievements beyond acting: as a director, book editor, and architectural conservationist.
  • Both hosts share their favorite Keaton-edited books in a mini “show and tell.”
• Acknowledgement of Keaton’s loyalty to Woody Allen (and the problematic public statements she made supporting him): The hosts note it’s complicated to process this aspect of Keaton.

Notable Quotes

• “She was such a specific person. She’s irreplaceable for that reason.” – Chelsea [13:47]
• “I love you, Diane Keaton, but what am I supposed to do with this interview where Woody Allen’s like, Turns out all that bad shit I was accused of, I didn’t do it.” – Lauren [22:27]

Fashion News & Commentary

Skims Merkin Thong

[22:44-25:52]

• Skims (Kim Kardashian’s brand) released a "merkin thong," causing controversy and confusion.
  • “She’s copying Galliano and Westwood? They didn’t invent merkins. That was actually sex workers with raging STDs during the medieval era.” – Chelsea [23:32]
  • Lauren’s husband may be tangentially involved with Skims’ business.
  • The product is already sold out; Chelsea admits to buying one and promises to report back.

Maria Grazia Chiuri Moves to Fendi

[25:52-27:22]

• The hosts provide a brief, resigned summary of Maria Grazia Chiuri (ex-Dior) taking over at Fendi—concluding that luxury fashion is so expensive now it barely matters for real people.

The Absurdity of Luxury Price Points

[27:22-29:58]

• They mock the rising cost of high fashion, noting $13,000 shorts and $10,000 bra tops in current collections, even at brands like Versace and Armani.
• Their real-world solution is to shop on The RealReal for secondhand designer finds.

The Wendy Williams Conservatorship Saga

[32:07-40:32]

• Deep-dive into the New York Magazine piece on Wendy Williams’ legal and health spiral.
  • “There are no reliable narrators in the Wendy Williams story, and that includes Wendy Williams herself.” – Chelsea [32:16]
  • Details of the questionable guardianship, including lack of family legal action, high lawyer fees, and Wendy being placed in a memory care unit against her will.
  • "It's so sick and sad...so many people around her are trying to exploit her." – Chelsea [34:53]
  • Lauren relates this to the broader dangers of adult guardianship abuse in America.
  • The original bank (Wells Fargo) triggered legal proceedings after Wendy's son attempted to get power of attorney under dubious circumstances.
  • “You may enter the arrangement voluntarily, but you cannot leave it of your own free will.” – legal scholar cited by Lauren [36:04]
  • Most people never escape court-ordered guardianship.

The Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show Reboot

[42:04-51:49]

• Second year since the show's attempted "inclusive rebrand" after past cancellations.
• Red carpet hosted by Law Roach and Zanna Roberts Rassi, featuring cameos from Amy Sedaris (supporting friend Adam Selman, the new show designer) and Sarah Jessica Parker.
  • SJP gets hilariously uncomfortable when asked what she’s wearing: “It's nothing. It's really nothing. It's just pieces I've had in my closet forever.” [44:01]
• On the catwalk: return of OG angels like Adriana Lima, with Bella Hadid bravely walking post-illness.
  • “Her wings were really heavy. They were, like, 50 pounds, apparently.” – Chelsea [48:55]
  • A memorable live mishap—one model falls just as Amerie’s "One Thing" plays ("It's just this one thing that's got me tripping").
• Review of the show's new vibe:
  • “It feels like an old Victoria’s Secret fashion show, including bringing back some of the OG models… but it’s definitely gotten cooler.” – Lauren [48:22]
  • Cheeky critique on inclusion, commercialism, and camp.
• Brief tangent on missing out on Joan Rivers memorabilia at auction.
  • “If someone knocked on my door and was like, would you like to buy this for $380? The answer is yes.” – Chelsea [52:27]

Victoria Beckham Documentary

[54:13-67:16]

• Chelsea and Lauren dissect the new documentary, ultimately finding it glossy but unsatisfying for superfans.
  • “I would watch five more hours of it. I did not enjoy it as much as the David Beckham doc.” – Lauren [54:16]
  • Critiques: Timeline errors, glossing over the “second” Spice Girls album and her solo flop. Victoria's eating disorder discussed only obliquely (despite signs like the “watermelon birthday cake”).
  • No real insight into her transition as a designer, strained family relationships, or what led to not designing her daughter-in-law’s wedding dress.
  • “It’s a documentary that all of the juiciest parts are in the trailer.” – Lauren [56:35]
  • Speculation on “the mean fashion journalist” (likely Cathy Horyn).
  • They praise her perseverance, business sense, and link to Roland Mouret, whose silhouette inspired her early work.

Notable Moment

• “Guys, this is why I don't smile, because David makes me take photos on this side.” – Victoria Beckham, cited by the hosts [64:44]

Bonus Tangent

• The hosts imagine a Spice Girls sphere residency in Las Vegas as an ideal, low-effort reunion.

One Battle After Another (Paul Thomas Anderson Film Review)

[67:23-84:13]

• Chelsea and Lauren rave about the new PTA film, comparing it to The Big Lebowski meets Dr. Strangelove:
  • “Way funnier than I was expecting.” – Lauren [69:09]
• Discuss the plot, performances, and especially Sean Penn’s standout role (“I do think Sean Penn will be winning his third Oscar” – Lauren [69:41])
• Dissection of the film's critical reception:
  • The film’s nuanced view of race and revolutionary politics divides audiences; Ben Shapiro hates it (“If Ben Shapiro is even talking about your film, you’re doing something right.” – Chelsea [78:58]), and some critics allege stereotyping in the portrayal of Black women.
  • The hosts acknowledge the criticism, especially around Teyana Taylor’s character, but also see the film as self-aware and deftly written.
• Tangent on the economics of making prestige films—debating why the budget ballooned to $130m and celebrating studio heads still bankrolling "difficult" auteur cinema.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “This is the third dog that we have lost collectively, you and me, in the last three years. And at what point will people just start thinking that we're killing them?” – Chelsea [09:26]
• “There are no reliable narrators in the Wendy Williams story, and that includes Wendy Williams herself.” – Chelsea [32:16]
• “She is a very understanding mother... to a daughter who wants to get married at her childhood home, to a lesbian. To a daughter that wants to fuck Jack Nicholson and brings him to her Hamptons home. Who gave you permission to do that? Amanda? Pete.” – Lauren [17:02]
• “You may enter the arrangement voluntarily, but you cannot leave it of your own free will.” – Cited legal scholar [36:04]
• “It's no Unzipped, but I enjoyed watching it.” – Chelsea on the Beckham doc [54:13]

Key Timestamps (MM:SS)

• 01:30-06:44: Celebrity beverage taste test (Stiller Shirley Temple and Erewhon Billy Corgan smoothie)
• 07:04-10:16: Chelsea’s dog Mr. Big passes away; grief and “cursed” dog content in pop culture
• 10:16-22:34: Diane Keaton's death; legacy, books, architecture, complicated Woody Allen friendship
• 22:44-25:52: Kim Kardashian’s Skims releases (and sells out) a merkin thong
• 27:22-29:58: The absurdity of current luxury fashion prices
• 32:07-40:32: Deep dive into Wendy Williams’ conservatorship and New York Magazine expose
• 42:04-51:49: Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show recap—red carpet feels, inclusion, camp, and a model fall
• 54:13-67:16: Victoria Beckham documentary critique; what it covers and what it misses
• 67:23-84:13: Review of Paul Thomas Anderson’s "One Battle After Another"—stellar casting, critical response, and big-budget woes

Tone & Style

The episode is classic Every Outfit: hilarious, irreverent, dense with fashion/pop culture gossip and laughs but underpinned by authentic emotion and sharp, critical insight. Both hosts lean into camp references, deadpan delivery, and trademark “bitchy” asides, self-aware but never mean-spirited.

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