Every Outfit Podcast

Episode 247: On Die My Love, Issey Miyake, Library180 (Feat. Nikki Igol)

Date: November 14, 2025
Hosts: Chelsea Fairless & Lauren Garrone
Special Guest: Nikki Igol

Episode Overview

This episode of Every Outfit is a vibrant journey through fashion, pop culture, and new motherhood, interlaced with signature sharp wit and personal anecdotes. Hosts Chelsea and Lauren kick things off with Sarah Jessica Parker’s Golden Globes news, dissect recent cultural moments (from the Devil Wears Prada 2 teaser to Tom Ford’s new film), and review two buzzy new movies (“Die My Love” and “Begonia”). Later, they welcome Nikki Igol—archivist, image researcher, and co-founder of Library180—for an in-depth conversation about magazine culture, fashion obsessions, her time working with industry icons, and personal shopping confessions.

Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sarah Jessica Parker & Award Show Drama (03:22–11:42)

• Golden Globes Controversy: SJP is awarded the Carol Burnett Award, but will be feted at a new “Golden Eve” event (not the Globes proper), prompting both confusion and indignation from Chelsea and Lauren.
  • Chelsea: “Rude as fuck. I don't get to see Sarah Jessica Parker get her lifetime achievement award.” (04:25)
  • Lauren: “Golden Eve. This is too close to New Year's Eve. Confusing messaging.” (05:08)
• SJP's Booker Prize Jury Gig: She tackled reading 153 books as a juror, with the winning novel being “Flesh” by David Szalay—coincidentally also Dua Lipa’s favorite.
  • “She had to read 153 books in a single year, and she had to deal with all the bullshit we had to say about And Just Like That season 3.” – Lauren (09:54)

2. Devil Wears Prada 2 Teaser, Trailers, and Fashion Notes (14:05–17:44)

• Lukewarm Reaction to Teaser: No real content, just a nod that the film is months away. Debate on whether trailer rollout is too early in the social-media age.
  • Lauren: “There is nothing being teased other than, hey, you saw paparazzi photos all summer...” (14:30)
• Iconic Footwear & Fashion Satire: Discussion of Miranda Priestly’s (Meryl Streep) Valentino rockstuds as either period detail or product placement.
  • Chelsea: “The Devil Wears Prada Too is a period piece set in the 2010s...or this is paid product placement for Valentino.” (14:30)
• Trailer Music Critique: Madonna’s “Vogue” is dubbed “way too on the nose.”
  • Chelsea: “That should be illegal. Let’s do a little more critical thinking about the music choice.” (16:16)
• Speculation: Charli XCX may eventually remix “Suddenly I See” for the sequel.

3. Tom Ford, Anne Rice Adaptation, and Cast News (18:05–20:12)

• Tom Ford’s Film “Cry to Heaven” Confirmed: Notable casting includes Nicholas Hoult, Aaron Taylor Johnson, and Adele (!).
  • Lauren: “Adele will be making her movie debut. In this film.” (18:49)
  • Chelsea: “Finally a reason to live. Truly.” (19:50)
• Discussion of Location, Production, and Aesthetic: Anticipation is high for a late 2026 release.

4. Issey Miyake x Apple iPhone Pocket Collaboration (20:13–24:52)

• Apt Tribute to Apple & Issey Miyake’s Design Legacies: The collaboration echoes Steve Jobs’ signature look and Miyake’s iconic tote bag.
  • Chelsea: “These Issey Miyake people...need this just because it matches everything else in their wardrobe.” (21:40)
  • Lauren: “If you’re Issey Miyake curious like myself...I can see myself purchasing this.” (21:54)
• Functionality and Design Geeking: Many ways to wear; praised for design advancement and cultural synergy.
  • “That’s not just good design. It’s like design that has advanced us further as a civilization.” – Chelsea (23:09)

5. Movie Reviews: “Die My Love” & “Begonia”

“Die My Love” (26:13–36:45)

• Overview: Latest from Lynne Ramsay starring Jennifer Lawrence and Robert Pattinson; a harrowing yet glam look at new motherhood & psychological unraveling.
  • Lauren: “If you are like us and love films about glamorous women having nervous breakdowns...this is the film for you.” (25:04)
• Themes: Postpartum anxiety/depression, rural isolation, dark humor, and the complexity of love and self-rediscovery. Both hosts relate these themes to their lives and pop culture touchstones.
  • Chelsea: “I wouldn't even say that she's slowly unraveling, like pretty much from the jump. This bitch was outwardly crazy.” (27:26)
  • Lauren: “You can love your child and hate how your life has changed.” (28:58)
• Performance Praise: Jennifer Lawrence and Sissy Spacek are lauded for powerful, raw portrayals.
  • “Our favorite genre of film is glamorous women having nervous breakdowns.” – Lauren (31:41)
• Memorable Quote:
  • “Die My Love is if Carrie moved to Suffern with Aiden and they had a child...and she went fully insane.” – Chelsea (31:15)

“Begonia” (38:35–48:34)

• Overview: New Yorgos Lanthimos film starring Emma Stone and Jesse Plemons; bleak, stylish satire with contemporary relevance.
  • Lauren: “So this film is the latest Yorgos Lanthimos movie starring Emma Stone...a high powered executive at a pharmaceutical company...” (39:10)
  • Chelsea: “Jesse Plemons is incredible. And he got a real make under for this film.” (41:52)
• Plot & Themes: Kidnapping plot, class politics, conspiracy, and moral ambiguity. Contemporary takes on misinformation.
  • Lauren: “A lot of overlaps with contemporary culture right now and conspiracy theories.” (41:14)
• Aesthetic & Performances: Emma Stone’s shaved-head look; Alicia Silverstone in a career-wild departure; emphasis on production design.
• Industry Commentary: Discussion on box office returns and budget allocation; the big budget spent on the film’s striking ending.
• Notable Moment:
  • “Actresses that shave their heads almost always look cooler than they do with hair.” – Chelsea (42:16)
• Meta Note:
  • Nod to the growing presence of podcasters and comedians in film, exemplified by Stavros Halkius’s cameo.

6. Interview: Nikki Igol & Library180 (49:53–end)

Library180: Vision, Genesis, and the Magic of Print

• About Library180:
  • “It’s a place in New York where one can come to simply just do image research. Nothing’s for sale...it costs no money to come in.” – Nikki (52:32)
  • Focus on restoring the tactile joy of flipping through magazines and fostering concept development.
  • Nikki’s collection is the backbone—Details magazine, paper, early People magazines, and rare finds.
  • “If there was a fire and I had to get out with what was left in my arms, it would be my Details magazine collection.” – Nikki (53:58)

Archiving & Magazine Culture

• Shift in contemporary magazine quality and consumption ("I stopped purchasing contemporary magazines at around 2012ish." – Nikki, 55:30)
• Importance of archiving tabloids and lesser-saved publications like People and National Enquirer.
  • “We need to be preserving the tabloids.” – Lauren (57:32)
• Personal curation based on celebrity moments (“every Caitlyn Jenner cover,” “Brangelina breakup coverage,” etc.)

Fashion Confessions, Shopping Antics, and Working with Icons

• Nikki’s notorious RealReal ban:
  • “They told you, you spent $130,000 in a year and returned $125,000.” – Lauren (64:53)
  • Nikki’s defense: “When I purchase, I like to purchase 20 things at a time...I create a want list and items from that obsession list get purchased.” (64:18)
• Trickery in college—using parents’ book money for designer fits at Blake in Chicago (“I told my parents that the bookshop was called Blake’s and they gave me money for books.” – Nikki, 66:22)
• Barney’s subterfuge: Hiding goods in staff-only spots for deep discount purchase.
• Style & Brand Loyalty: Fran Drescher bodycon looks, “slutty Italian” designers, and an affinity for Yohji Yamamoto and Comme des Garçons for mental health “uniforms.”

Working for Pat McGrath

• Dream job as archivist and reference hunter—describes environment as creative “feeding.”
  • “She just needs to consume inspiration. I’m her archivist, which is endlessly amazing.” – Nikki (59:48)
• Not a makeup “queen”—prefers skincare, glowy skin, and bare beauty.
  • “I’m just trying to not look haggard out in these streets.” – Chelsea (63:13)
  • “I just want a nice glow to the skin. That’s it.” – Nikki (63:16)

Fashion Takes, Trends, and Rapid-Fire Questions

• Spring/Summer 2026 thoughts: Praises YSL, mixed on Margiela mouthpieces (“Allow yourself to be suspended for however long this show is lasting...just get into it.” – Nikki, 75:41)
• Quick games: “Marry, Fuck, Kill” with Yoji, Tom Ford, and Vivienne Westwood—decisions based on practical and spiritual style affinities.
• Closing vibes: Indulging in weed, mimosa-fueled fashion chat, and buying more books.

Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Sarah Jessica Parker’s Award:
  • Chelsea: “Rude as fuck. I don't get to see Sarah Jessica Parker get her lifetime achievement award.” (04:25)
• On SJP’s Booker Prize Reading:
  • Lauren: “She had to read 153 books in a single year, and she had to deal with all the bullshit we had to say about And Just Like That season 3.” (09:54)
• On Devil Wears Prada 2 Teaser:
  • Chelsea: “The Devil Wears Prada Too is a period piece set in the 2010s...or this is paid product placement for Valentino.” (14:30)
• On Issey Miyake iPhone Pocket:
  • Chelsea: “That’s not just good design. It’s like design that has advanced us further as a civilization.” (23:09)
• On “Die My Love”:
  • Chelsea: “I wouldn't even say that she's slowly unraveling, like pretty much from the jump. This bitch was outwardly crazy.” (27:26)
  • Lauren: “You can love your child and hate how your life has changed.” (28:58)
  • Chelsea: “Die My Love is if Carrie moved to Suffern with Aiden and they had a child...and she went fully insane.” (31:15)
• On Begonia (Yorgos Lanthimos film):
  • Chelsea: “Jesse Plemons is incredible. And he got a real make under for this film.” (41:52)
  • “Actresses that shave their heads almost always look cooler than they do with hair.” (42:16)
• On Library180:
  • Nikki: “It’s a place in New York where one can come to simply just do image research. Nothing’s for sale...it costs no money to come in.” (52:32)
  • “If there was a fire and I had to get out with what was left in my arms, it would be my Details magazine collection.” (53:58)
• On Shopping Addiction:
  • Lauren: “They told you, you spent $130,000 in a year and returned $125,000.” (64:53)
• On Personal Style:
  • Nikki: “I really like a slutty Italian. There’s a huge part of you that is also the Comme...and Yoji for sure.” (69:24)
  • “I wish. Although I will say this. I bought an Alo...I'm in the gym five days a week, for sure. It’s because I love my food.” (70:28)
• On Working for Pat McGrath:
  • Nikki: “She just needs to consume inspiration. I'm her archivist, which is endlessly amazing.” (59:48)

Key Timestamps

• 03:22 – Discussion of Sarah Jessica Parker’s Golden Globes snub and event confusion
• 09:54 – SJP’s Booker Prize judging, “Flesh” by David Szalay
• 14:05 – Devil Wears Prada 2 teaser analysis and shoe symbolism
• 18:05 – Tom Ford’s “Cry to Heaven” & cast excitement (Adele!)
• 20:13 – Issey Miyake x Apple iPhone pocket collab analysis
• 26:13 – “Die My Love” movie review: themes, performances, personal resonance
• 38:35 – “Begonia” movie review: plot, satire, performances, pop culture connection
• 49:53 – Nikki Igol interview: origins & vision of Library180, archiving philosophy, shopping scandals
• 59:48 – Work with Pat McGrath, beauty and inspiration
• 69:24 – On evolving personal style, designer loyalties
• 73:44 – Quickfire fashion questions (Marry/Fuck/Kill; Spring/Summer 2026 hot takes)

Tone & Style

The episode is candid, irreverent, jargon-literate but accessible, and laden with self-deprecating humor and stylish asides. Listeners feel like they’re overhearing a cosmopolitan friends’ brunch that touches on everything from high fashion to grocery-store tabloids, all delivered with an encyclopedic knowledge and a wink.

For Further Exploration

• Movies Discussed: “Die My Love,” “Begonia” (current theater releases)
• Library180: A destination for magazine and fashion history fans, located in the Financial District, 180 Maiden Lane, NYC.
• Follow the Hosts: @everyoutfitpod on Instagram

Summary Verdict

Whether you're a fashion obsessive, pop culture vulture, or simply love backstage stories, this episode blends new releases, industry gossip, and deep-dives into archive culture—topped off with a raucous chat with one of fashion media’s great behind-the-scenes minds. Don't forget: “If you fuck with this podcast, you’re definitely going to fuck with this movie.” (Lauren, 35:16)