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Hi, I'm Lauren Groney.
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And I'm Chelsea Fairless.
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And welcome back to the Every Outfit podcast. We are doing our monthly rewatch of a Sex and the City episode. You might be wondering, guys, why are you doing a perfect present?
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And especially since Christmas has already happened.
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And this episode takes place in the summertime. We are truly grasping at straws at this point to find a winter and or Christmas themed episode related to Sex and the City, we. This is the last remaining one. We've done all of the back half season six Petrovsky winter episodes. So we had to resort to the episode where Charlotte is decorating a Christmas tree in July.
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C
I think of this episode as being really amazing because Jennifer Coolidge is in it. But actually, now that I've watched it, I'm like, Jennifer Coolidge is the best part of this.
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B
We also get two brief appearances by Mr. Big against a green screen of some sort. But we'll get into that in a second. But really, other than those two, two things which are standouts for this episode, a pretty mid episode.
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C
They can't all be tens.
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They can't. But there's a lot of funny dialogue because this episode is written by our fave, Jenny Bix. The episode, of course, starts with a Carrie voiceover where she says, in a single gal's life, there are three important the first time you have sex, the first time you have good sex, and the first time you see a guy you just started dating's apartment.
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C
Okay, is she talking about like, these are the first in a single relationship, or is she talking about like over the scope of a single gal's life?
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See, I was also wondering this because I'm imagining being a weekly Daily Star reader reading this week's column and being like, oh, yeah. Over the course of one's life, there's the first time you have sex at all, the first time you start having good sex, and the first time you see a guy, you're seeing his apartment. But Carrie is trying to normalize her experience with Burger, which, as we've been over, is sus from the start.
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C
Yeah, because the first time they had sex and the first time they had good sex were two separate and distinct moments.
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And we are coming off of great sexpectation. So they've just figured out how to fuck. And now she's seeing Berger's apartment for the first time.
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She arrives in a red checkered 50s style Marc Jacobs dress. Could have been marked by Marc. Who knows? This was really the heyday of Mark by Mark rip. She has straight hair, which is always a little bit jarring. And it's shoulder length. She's growing out that season five, Bob.
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Well, she had straight hair in season two, but it was very, very long. This is a shoulder length straight hair that's very bouncy. It's a very specific Sarah Jessica Parker blowout that she would have for a few years afterwards as well.
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C
See, I think that when she has Straight hair. It's a little bit of a cry for help. It's like, are you okay as Carrie.
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B
Or as Sarah Jessica as Carrie? Well, yeah, clearly she's not okay. Like, she's trying to normalize her fucked up relationship in article, trying to get her readers to side with her of like, you know, in a relationship when you have sex for the first time and it's terrible, but then you have sex and it's finally good. Well, now I'm seeing that guy's apartment. I hope it doesn't suck.
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C
It is a yuppie apartment. And you can tell because it has an exposed brick wall, but it's like a completely pristine exposed brick wall. And also he has those teeny, tiny little backsplash tiles.
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This is what made me realize I'm like, oh, Burger owns. Because there's no landlord that's putting that tiny tile in the kitchen as a backsplash.
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C
I remember feeling impressed by his apartment when I first watched this, as is Carrie.
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B
She's relieved that it looks nice, which, to be fair, she can't take Another thing with Burger for sure.
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C
And like, straight man's apartments can be really scary.
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B
So, see, I always thought that Berger lived in a studio, but you see, they pan over that he does have an office of some sort. So it seems like he sacrificed the bedroom to be his office, his writing domicile where he writes all of his funny, funny little things for Hurricane Pandora. That was his novel, right?
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C
That was his novel. So Carrie compliments him on the wall color, and he's like, oh, that's all Lauren.
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B
It is always spooky when you hear your own name, especially in your favorite television show. And of course, Carrie thinks that he's referring to Ralph Lauren, which it's not the first time Ralph Lauren Walpaine has been referenced in Sex and the City because Miranda admonishes Steve in the episode where he thinks he's going to win $500,000 by shooting a three pointer as he like, bounces the basketball against Miranda's wall. And she's like, hey, that's Ralph Lauren. But no, it is Burger's ex girlfriend Lauren, who was the decorator of this apartment. And it's like, of course, Carrie. He's a straight man with a nice looking apartment. You think he did this himself?
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C
Some of them do. It's rare, but it happens.
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And then decorator becomes a euphemism for exes. Carrie has an ex decorator. Burger has an ex decorator. It's all fine.
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C
Anyway, they go to bed and he puts on his sound machine, which is just a really blatantly nerdy thing to do.
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B
A sound machine from the Sharper Image. And for some bizarre reason, he's decided on the Amazonian rainforest as a background noise.
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C
And Carrie, of course, is like, what the fuck is with this frog machine? And he's like, oh, that's something else that Lauren gave me. And then he goes on talking about Lauren and she kind of shuts him down. She's immediately triggered.
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B
Well, not only is she triggered, it's like to have this trauma dump right as you're trying to go to sleep. While there are, as you said, frogs chirping away or ribbiting away.
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C
Chirping, yeah, they're ribbit. Ribbity.
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B
They're ribbit. Ribbiting away. He's not just, like, talking about Lauren. He's like, oh, well, actually, it was her therapist's idea. And, you know, everything was really her therapist idea. It's like, I'm trying to sleep. I'm trying to ignore the frogs.
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C
Okay? But I found this to be strange because wasn't it Berger that was initially triggered and traumatized when Carrie opened the X File and dumped on him about her ex? He literally, like, ran away from her in the Hamptons.
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B
This is true. I forgot about that. Good point.
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C
Anyway, cut to the next day. Or the next night, I should say. The girls are all together. They are walking to a trunk show.
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We'll learn in the next scene. But they are unaware of the reason. They are going to Jennifer Coolidge's apartment. But they need to support a friend.
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C
A friend who is recently divorced. A friend who allegedly attempted suicide.
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B
I have to say, this is so politically incorrect, but a joke that would be made at the time. I did laugh at the. She tried to kill herself. She took 6 Advil on an empty stomach.
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C
Genius line. It's up there with Janine Garofalo's line from Reality Bites where she talks about how her manager at the Gap tried to kill herself by eating an entire pot of poinsettias.
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So they arrive and are immediately greeted by Jennifer Coolidge, who's perfect.
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The good news is I'm off the zo loft. I lost 10 pounds, and after that asshole dumped me, I realized I have.
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This amazing gift for designing bags. It's a purse party.
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B
Oh, isn't this precious? We can take it to lunch. Hmm. Isn't life funny?
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C
Because of that fucker I've discovered I'm Fendi.
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B
I mean, some of these bags slap, I have to say.
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C
Well, it's funny because rich women with, like, vanity handbag lines typically, like, because they're rich, they have the money to, like, get them manufactured or whatever. But it looks like she is, like, hand sewing these bags.
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B
We know at the very least, she's hot gluing.
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C
It's just astounding how brilliant Jennifer Coolidge is. She is one of the great comedic actresses of our time and how much she does with such little time.
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B
Yeah, I thought. Or my memory of this episode is that she comes back after this scene, but she doesn't.
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C
No. And she's hysterical and completely believable as a glamorous woman having a nervous breakdown.
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B
Well, she's a reformed glamorous woman having a nervous breakdown. She formerly had a nervous breakdown. But as we know, as we see in the next scene, she's teetering right on the edge. But the idea of her being or having a vanity bag line is to introduce the other theme of this episode, which is baggage in all of its forms.
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Miranda says, when did making bags become the fallback Career. It used to be the fallback career. Now the fallback career is having a beauty line or it's making hair oil or something.
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Chelsea. Unfortunately, the fallback career is having a podcast that is the vanity project of 2025.
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C
For a rich woman, though, you're right.
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They would try to get on the Real Housewives in whatever city they lived in. This jogged a memory of mine that growing up, there was this girl who had a really cool, wealthy father, and her mother was a model, and they had divorced, and she started a faux fur line at a time in the late 90s where, like, faux fur wasn't a thing.
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C
I mean, it definitely was a thing in the 90s. It's just like faux fur technology has dramatically improved within the last decade.
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B
Even I can't remember the faux fur blankets. Exactly. That's what they were. They were blankets. But it was giving Jennifer Coolidge's bags. It was the equivalent of that.
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C
So Carrie, of course, mentions her conversation with Berger the previous night. She says, last night, Berger started opening the X File. And they all respond to it like they know what she's talking about. Well, like, the X File is just a term that they use amongst themselves.
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I mean, it feels like it would be a phrase that was popular in the Sex and the City writers room. There's a lot of talk of baggage and the baggage that a previous relationship leaves. Carrie has this great line where she's talking about how, ladies, these aren't bags, they're baggage. And we are standing among the ruins of her last relationship. I do love Miranda's line, and I would love to get your thoughts on the idea that the only one who should have to pay for a bad relationship is the person in your next relationship.
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C
Sure. But this woman is clearly spiraling out. She needs the support of her community, and she needs her community to buy the bag with the little shoes.
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B
Also, how do all four of these women know her? Like, I believe that Samantha and Carrie know Jennifer Coolidge, but I'm having a hard time. Maybe even Charlotte, but I'm having a real hard time understanding how Miranda knows Jennifer Coolidge. Or was Miranda just tagging along because they were all supposed to go to dinner after this?
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That's probably more likely.
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So Charlotte, of course, is very pro knowing everything you possibly can about someone's ex as soon as humanly possible, which made me realize that she herself has never really done that, or we've never seen that. Like, she certainly didn't do that with Trey or Harry, which is why she has found herself in the predicament that she's found herself in.
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C
So Jennifer Coolidge has a great line where she's like, who needs a balding 38 year old boyfriend with erectile dysfunction when you can have a new career and cute cater waiters. I assume she's referring to Smith Jarrod, who is catering this soiree.
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I always forget that if not for this party, Samantha may have never seen Smith Jarrett again. Like that was supposed to be a one and done hookup. And if not for Jennifer Coolidge, Samantha's wondering why they're going to this party. This was fate.
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C
It was fate. So Samantha of course goes and fucks Smith Jared in the stairwell of the building.
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Which, as we said, I think the last Rewatch episode was the one where Carrie has her own flirtation with the cater waiter slash performance artist. And I was like, this really reminds me of Smith Jarrett and Samantha hooking up at Jennifer Coolidge's party.
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C
So Jennifer Coolidge finds them fucking and instantly has a breakdown. She's like, I'm way too fucking fragile to see this.
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Honestly, I'm on her side.
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Well, also it's like, maybe you shouldn't be fucking around. Like the glassware and the food, that's also just like not sanitary.
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I've never experienced this when I was living in New York. Because I mostly I lived in tenement buildings. I visited friends in tenement buildings. But you see this in Big's first apartment. In this apartment, which is like the interior stairwell, like the service stairwell. Which is where Smith Jarrett and Samantha are fucking. Which I find fascinating.
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C
So then Jennifer Coolidge like storms back into the apartment. And this random girl is like, does this come in any other colors? And she's like, do I look like a fucking department store?
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I mean, kind of. It is your apartment is merchandise that way.
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C
I love when she just starts screaming at everyone to get the fuck out. It's so good.
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B
What do you think became of her? And did anyone buy a singular bag?
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C
What became of her? I mean, probably like addiction of some kind. Probably pills, I would imagine.
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B
All right, you're giving it the Valley of the Dolls treatment. Do you think anyone bought a bag? That woman that does receive Jennifer Coolidge's ire for the like, does this come in a different color? Like she seemed to want to buy a bag, but everyone else.
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C
You know what? It kind of reminds me of Monica Lewinsky's handbag line. Do you remember this?
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B
No.
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C
Oh my God. Google it immediately. Now, I don't want to shame Monica Lewinsky for her Relationship with Bill Clinton. I do kind of have to shame her for these handbags, though.
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B
She was selling them at Henry Bendel.
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C
Yes.
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B
Wow.
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C
They were similarly crafty to the Jennifer Coolidge bags. They were made out of all sorts of different recycled fabrics. I actually wonder if this influenced the Sex and the City plot line in any way.
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B
Wow, wow, wow. You know what?
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C
Good for her, not good for her. Look, it would be one thing if she was a good designer and she was like, you know what? I'm going to take this terrible situation and turn it into something that's positive for me. But, like, these are not good bags.
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B
Here's my confusion. So there's a lot of photos of her at Henri Bendel, I guess, shilling for the handbags, but she's wearing this feathered hat, and I need to know, was that just at the store? Did she also make that?
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C
I believe that was at the store. To my knowledge, she only made handbags.
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B
I mean, we'll never be asked to be on Monica Lewinsky's podcast, and certainly after this podcast, she'll never be on ours. But, like, we would ask her about this handbag line. Yeah.
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C
Respect to her for her podcast and her work talking about public shaming and bullying and stuff like that, but these bags, not it.
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B
So I love that the girls don't even question where Samantha is when Jennifer Coolidge has this nervous breakdown. They're just like, so, let's go to dinner. Also, do you think this breakdown by, I imagine a New York socialite of some sort of, is what Jennifer Coolidge is? Did this make it into Carrie's article that week?
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C
Oh, definitely. She has to report on this sort of thing. It's her civic duty.
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B
So, sadly, we don't see dinner with the girls. We are brutally placed the next morning with Miranda, who is waiting for Steve.
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To pick up the baby, and he's 20 minutes late.
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B
God damn it, Steve.
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C
God forbid. But the whole thing is that she had an appointment that she's now late to. So fair. I'm on Miranda's side. It's not useful to have childcare if the childcare falls outside of the window when you need it.
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I like the idea of calling the father of your child child care.
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C
You know what I mean?
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Of course. Well, it also doesn't help that the reason that Steve is late is that Debbie couldn't find parking. And who is Debbie? Steve's new girlfriend. Which I guess Miranda just never fathomed that he would ever get a girlfriend again after she had his child out of wedlock and said repeatedly that she didn't want to be in a relationship with him. Did you forget to get someone in your life a present this holiday season? Okay, okay, it was me actually. I forgot to get Paul a present this year. But before I went out and panic bought something he wasn't going to use, I remembered there's the RealReal. The RealReal is the most trusted name in authenticated luxury resale and it's my source for finding real gifts for the special people in my life. You've heard Chelsea and I Discuss how the RealReal has slept on when it comes to menswear. Well, it's time I my own advice. I had previously bought Paul and Armani suit on the RealReal for a steal and he's been saying that in 2026. For him it's less about suits and more about separates that seem random but look great put together. Okay, Carrie Bradshaw. And with over 10,000 pre loved designer items dropping daily, I could shop my favorite luxury brands right from the cozy comfort of my own couch. And at up to 90% off retail, I could find pieces from the brands I love without breaking the bank. Have you ever perused the vintage men's section on the RealReal? There are some very el finds like vintage Johnny Versace, Izzy Miyake, Ralph Lauren. You know, here at the Every outfit podcast, we love the RealReal and I'm sure you love the RealReal. And now it is time to get your partner into the RealReal. The RealReal is the world's largest and most trusted resource for authenticated luxury resale with thousands of pre loved luxury arrivals daily. No one does resale like the RealReal and no one makes the holiday shine brighter than the RealReal. And now get $25 off your first purchase when you go to therealreal.com outfit. That's therealreal.com outfit to get your $25 off. Start shopping now at therealreal.com outfit.
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C
So Uptown Charlotte is converting to Judaism.
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B
Yes. And because she's Charlotte, she is on an accelerated route. And of course she's a complete type A in class.
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C
Yeah, she's a pick me girl. She is. And the rabbi is basically just like, y' all can't celebrate Christmas anymore, but.
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B
Think of all the new traditions you'll have. I love that Charlotte is negotiate with the rabbi of like can I keep the Christmas tree? And he was like no. And she was like, okay, but what about caroling?
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C
And he's like no, this would love to carol.
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B
Which is where we get the very Jenny Bix line that that day the rabbi became the Minch who stole Christmas.
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C
Oh, because his name is Rabbi Minch.
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B
Yes.
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C
Rabbi Minch also says that keeping Christmas would be like being a vegetarian, but still eating meat.
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B
Sure, why not?
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C
I guess. Not my area of expertise.
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B
So we cut to that evening. Carrie is blessedly getting some shut eye at her own place, but her sleep is interrupted by a call from Big.
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C
Oh, I also love how she's wearing an eye mask, which is, of course a Carrie trope. But this one says dream in, like, rhinestone letters.
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B
We actually talked about this scene not that long ago because I played it during and just like that episode as a juxtaposition to Aiden's gross phone sex with Carrie. Because Big is actually quite smooth, quite sexy in this scene.
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C
Oh, for sure. Well, since you ripped the audio last time, can we just play it again?
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B
So the red dress, Versace or Gucci? That tiny little straps.
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C
Gucci.
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B
And when I slipped one strap down, the other would fall. Remember that dress? Yes. You look good in that dress. Yes. Remember when I found you in your closet and just heels in a bra and I came up behind you and put your hands against the wall? Remember that? Yes. 10 out of 10. Great phone sex. Also, Chris Knoth has a great voice for phone sex.
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C
Yeah, he does.
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B
Although I guess this calls into question, is it phone sex if he is just reciting memories of times they've had sex to her?
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C
Of course, she's not adding much narratively, but she is involved.
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B
Well, the girls get into this the next day during the brunch scene. I'm frankly shocked that Carrie would reveal that she had phone sex with Big. To the girls.
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C
Yeah, but she doesn't think of it as phone sex. As she says, it's more like a trip down memory lane.
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B
Which makes me wonder, is it phone sex? Because do we think she's masturbating?
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C
Well, that's what she doesn't reveal. And that's what someone should have asked her. Like, did you come on the phone with Mr. Big or not, bitch? Like, did he while you were just sitting there listening? Like, what happened? Where did this go?
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B
Well, unfortunately, because of. And just like that, we know where it goes. And it probably was for the best that it was cut off before Big started instructing her to touch herself. And we heard him come and lick his palm. No, Mr. Mr. Big would never. Mr. Big has proper lubricants in the bedside table. So Charlotte admonishes Carrie and she's like, well, you shouldn't be doing that. And the next time he calls, you should just tell him that you're in a serious relationship with Burger. Which, like, internally, I was like. I was on Carrie's side. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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C
Yeah, it's not that serious.
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B
Again, they just started having good sex, which asterisks. I'm not sure if they are.
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C
And then Charlotte is like, I just don't know why you would want to drag all of that big baggage into this new relationship. And Carrie's like, it's not baggage, it's biggage again.
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B
Another great Jenny Bix line. So Brady is at brunch, which, as a mother to a young child, I would never do. Why? Because, as you see, the baby is crying. This is how we find the condoms in the diaper bag.
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C
Well, I guess Tat and I have been wanting to go out with this baby to lunch for. Since you had him. It cries. You go outside for a bit and just pat and you have a very well behaved baby.
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B
Oh, thank you.
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C
I'm here to tell you.
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B
All right, well, we'll bring the baby to lunch. The baby will be the fourth seat at brunch. But this baby Brady is upset. And so Miranda is rummaging through the bag and finds, honestly, a Samantha amount of Trojan condoms.
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C
Yeah, that's obviously not what she wants to see, especially now that she knows that he has a girlfriend. A named Girlfriend.
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B
Well, what's worse, if you're Miranda and you didn't know that Steve had a girlfriend and you find this roll of condoms in the diaper bag, my mind would be like, oh, so he's just, like, fucking everyone at the playground. He's leaving our child unattended and fucking moms and nannies in the public restroom. Before we move into the. I couldn't help but wonder. I just. I want to. Again, this is a pretty so so episode, but with a lot of great dialogue, funny dialogue, pithy, with a bunch of pop cultural references. This scene is capped off with Samantha saying that Debbie does daycare when Miranda reveals that Steve has a girlfriend named Debbie, which I thought was very funny. And then, yeah, we get the. I couldn't help but wonder. Later that day, I got to thinking about tense relationships. And by that I mean a relationship.
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C
And its connection to the past, present and future tense. At a certain age, we've all had.
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Relationships that are far from past perfect. But how much does that past relationship affect our dream of a future perfect?
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C
And as I became more and more tense, I couldn't help but can you.
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B
Get to a future if your past is present? I mean, wouldn't Carrie know all about this? Seeing that the fact that she could not get over Big and still had Big in her life derailed a good part of her relationship with Aiden?
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C
See, for me, this is like the wordiest. I couldn't help but wonder. Of all times, it's like she's saying words, but it doesn't make sense. But she's also saying the same thing over and over again.
- [28:19]
B
Oh, she was definitely very proud of herself. And I would say that this is the closest. I couldn't help but wonder that gets us to the woman. An end just like that. And what's the big deal? Berger is still processing his breakup like that is okay. And by the way, at this point, we don't even know that. We just know that she helped him decorate the apartment that he still lives in. Yeah, it's not like they own property together. It's not like they're sharing a dog and they each have it for a certain amount of time post breakup.
- [28:50]
C
So Burger has the Hamptons home all by himself then?
- [28:53]
B
I mean, we have litigated this over and over again. Burger has to have some kind of family money. Or perhaps Berger has some like, east coast family that built in the Hamptons in like the 40s and he inherited that house.
- [29:10]
C
Yeah, because otherwise he needs a nicer apartment than he has.
- [29:14]
B
So do we want to attempt to answer the question of this? I couldn't help but wonder. I know it's difficult to find what she's trying to ask, but it is. How much does the past relationship affect our dream of a future perfect. Which is really saying, can your past relationship fuck up the person meant to be with?
- [29:31]
C
Wait, I thought her. I couldn't help but wonder is, can you get to a future if your past is present?
- [29:35]
B
You're right. She asked actually several questions.
- [29:39]
C
This is what I'm saying. It's like all different, yet all the same. And she uses the word past and future like 50 times. Yeah, you can get to a future if your past is present. It just depends how present, I guess.
- [29:53]
B
And I guess for Carrie, her future is her present and her past. Because Big is her past, big is in her present, and Big will be her future.
- [30:02]
C
True.
- [30:03]
B
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C
So Samantha and Smith are having a cozy night in. This is one of the great Samantha lingerie looks because she's wearing like a chartreuse camisole, chartreuse panties, and then some sort of like chartreuse beaded choker.
- [31:42]
B
Chartreuse, a very difficult color to pull off. Looks great on Kim Cattrall.
- [31:48]
C
Yeah, always has.
- [31:50]
B
So Smith Jared, which at this point we don't know his name, but the cater waiter, the Raw waiter, needs to pick up an extra shift, I assume at Raw because he got fired as a cater waiter. And Samantha's like, oh my God, that was my fuck up. I'm so sorry. Here is $300.
- [32:08]
C
Well, the more fucked up thing is that she's like, oh, yeah, I've heard that this is like the going rate for like a good caterer.
- [32:15]
B
Which means she made calls like this. Yeah, this was not an in the moment. Oh, I feel bad. Let me give him $300. Right. Because of me, I made him lose his job. It's like she's been thinking about this for the last, I don't know, three days a week. And she's been asking people, she's been polling other party manners to be like, what do you pay cater waiters? Also, doesn't 300 seem a little high for that year?
- [32:42]
C
Yeah, I think so.
- [32:44]
B
So obviously Smith Jared is insulted.
- [32:47]
C
Well, it's like, did Samantha learn Nothing from Carrie's whole like, situation where a guy left her money.
- [32:54]
B
Well, I was thinking about that because of course this incident brings up that episode where a man leaves Carrie $1,000. $5,000. I forget how much it is with Amalita. And I think what's different is that like, there's no exchange. Well, I guess the exchange of services is sex. But it's like she's trying to supplement what he lost for his cater waiter job. It's not like Carrie was like, oh, I had sex with you instead of like filing this story for the New York star.
- [33:25]
C
Sure. But it still feels and looks like sex work just because they've just fucked up. Also, I know this is a minor detail, but like the fact that Samantha takes that $300 out of an MCM wallet. Excuse me, in what world?
- [33:43]
B
I was thinking about compensation for a partner. And you know what is insulting, what is not. And I remembered that the closest I've come to Samantha giving a person she's had sex with $300 as like, I'm sorry you got fired, is I once accidentally destroyed a guy's set of bedding because I brought the wrong lube.
- [34:05]
C
Uh huh.
- [34:06]
B
And so I bought him a new set of bedding.
- [34:09]
C
As in, I'm sorry, that's really nice.
- [34:12]
B
Oh no, it was too nice. That guy was an asshole. I absolutely shouldn't have done that.
- [34:15]
C
Yeah, I was like, that's crazy.
- [34:17]
B
The lube lasted longer than that relationship.
- [34:20]
C
It's that. Which lube is the one that does that? The water based or the silicone based?
- [34:25]
B
So funny you should say that. I hooked up with this guy. I didn't hear from him for two days and I received an angry text message where he's like, did you bring oil based lube? I was like, no. And then I was like, oh, but it was silicone based and it stained all of his bedding.
- [34:41]
C
Okay, but like, you can't be mad at someone for that. That's so inappropriate.
- [34:45]
B
I mean, he wasn't mad, he was curious. And I'm a good person. This is where I'm a bit of a Charlotte. And so I bought new bedding.
- [34:52]
C
Well, that's very good of you.
- [34:54]
B
Thank you. I wonder if he still has that bedding. I wonder if he thinks of me.
- [34:57]
C
Probably not, because he's an asshole.
- [35:00]
B
Speaking of assholes, we have another scene of Burger with Carrie. He is leaving her in the apartment alone because he has a standing breakfast thing with a bunch of his writer buddies. And he's like, I would invite you but we're a pretty pathetic bunch. And she's like, oh, no, go. And you, my friend, are not pathetic, girl. I mean, Carrie does a lot of embarrassing things in regards to men. She did a lot of embarrassing things to make her relationship with Burger better. This might be the worst thing that she's done to be like, no, you're not pathetic. He wasn't actually calling himself Pathetic Carrie.
- [35:37]
C
So then Burger's ex Lauren calls.
- [35:41]
B
So I call Ron Livingston.
- [35:43]
C
Lauren calls and leaves a very like, like, cordial, respectful voicemail. Like, hey, let's catch up. Something to that effect.
- [35:51]
B
And his reaction is to not give one middle finger, but give two middle fingers to his answering machine.
- [35:59]
C
And he also says, fuck you and fuck you.
- [36:03]
B
And then, as if he has multiple personalities, just, like, dips back into calm cool guy and is like, bye, Carrie.
- [36:10]
C
Yeah, that's what makes it psycho.
- [36:13]
B
Yeah, it's like instant red flag. Do not pass go, break up immediately. This episode reminded me of the fact that truly, and if I am wrong. Fuckettes. Please remind me of a moment where Carrie and Burger's relationship is good. There's not one good moment between these two.
- [36:34]
C
No, it's so true. The only good moment is that group dinner where she introduces him to her friends and he's like. Like, you know, I don't like rape or anything in the rape family. Like, that was his moment.
- [36:44]
B
That was the high point.
- [36:45]
C
Yeah.
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B
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- [38:52]
C
So cut to a walk and talk with Carrie and Samantha. Samantha is wearing a truly subversive combination of colors. It is like a hot pink pea coat with a yellow camisole under it and then red hip huggers.
- [39:08]
B
That is something that only Patricia Field.
- [39:10]
C
Could think of and God bless her for that. Carrie is spiraling because she's like, why is he so angry? Does he have a problem with anger?
- [39:19]
B
It's seldom that. Sarah Jiska Parker as Carrie curses. It's even more rare for her to flip the birds because she's explaining to Samantha, you don't want your new boyfriend to still be in love with the ex, but you don't want. And then, you know, she gives the double middle finger on a New York street, which I just love.
- [39:37]
C
Samantha then starts talking about her interaction with Smith and how offended he was.
- [39:44]
B
Well, no, it's even better. She's like, you know what? Men are fucking crazy. I'm going through the same thing with my guy.
- [39:49]
C
I gave him $300 and now he's mad at me.
- [39:53]
B
I do love this Carrie reaction where she's like, no, not the same at all.
- [39:58]
C
So we then get another Steven Miranda scene. He shows up on time, thank God. But that doesn't stop Miranda from having what is essentially a nervous breakdown. She immediately picks a fight with him.
- [40:10]
B
I just don't think you're taking this parenting thing seriously. What? You show up late to pick him up one time. More than one time. There was that time, that other time when you were late. Okay, what's your problem. This is not about me. This is about your need to start taking responsibility for your child. And clearly there are times when you can't because your mind is somewhere else.
- [40:31]
C
What are you talking about?
- [40:32]
B
Like, when your penis is in some girl's vagina and you're having an orgasm while our baby is quietly suffocating in the other room.
- [40:40]
C
Debbie and I never do it when he's awake.
- [40:42]
B
Okay, Steve, you're not getting this. I am saying your focus needs to be totally and completely on Brady. My focus focus is always 100% on Brady. Brady. That night, the only thing Miranda and.
- [41:06]
C
Steve could agree on was separate diaper bags. Okay. I love how Miranda basically described the plot of Antichrist when she's like, you could be fucking in one room while.
- [41:19]
B
Our baby is suffocating. Do you think Lars von Drear, like, caught a rerun of this Sex of the City episode on, like, tbs and he was like, ah, yes.
- [41:30]
C
He's like, what if.
- [41:31]
B
What if I got Charlotte Gainsbourg and Willem Dafoe in this film? What if this was a movie?
- [41:36]
C
I'm pretty sure that's not his accent, but I like that you just made that up.
- [41:41]
B
Absolutely. Sorry. Lars von Trier aside, you know that he added the Vong.
- [41:47]
C
He's Lars Trier, So he's Lydia Tarr is what you're saying.
- [41:52]
B
Yeah. Obviously, Miranda's not really mad about the condoms. Should she be mad about the condoms?
- [41:59]
C
No. The fact that the condoms are in the bag does show a sort of level of, like, not paying attention to detail that is a little bit concerning. Although, obviously, like, Steve is human and people make mistakes and shit happens. And, like, who gives a fuck?
- [42:16]
B
It's funny to me that she doesn't mention the actually offensive thing, which is like, our child was sucking on one of these condoms because I found it while having brunch with the girl. Again, we've seen these episodes a million times. It's fun to pick them apart. This is a funny scene between Steve and Miranda. We know this is obviously leading up to them reconciling as a couple, but it really begs the question logically. Like, I get why Steve would put condoms in the diaper bag, but. But can Debbie not put the condoms in her purse?
- [42:48]
C
The condoms ended up there by mistake. Like, something got lost in the shuffle and that something was the condoms. It happens.
- [42:56]
B
Well, now they have different diaper bags. Would love to see what Steve's diaper bag looks like. Do you think he just went to a hardware store and got, like, a canvas bag?
- [43:05]
C
Look, as someone that found a shrimp tail in one of their handbags, I don't think I'm the right person to speak on, like, what is and isn't acceptable to randomly find in your bag.
- [43:18]
B
We should also say, for those who have not watched this episode, what happens is that the whole joke is that Miranda is railing against Steve for not paying attention and fearing that the plot of Antichrist could happen to her child. And while this is happening, the baby falls off of the couch and then.
- [43:36]
C
She tries to gaslight him as like, this is your fault.
- [43:38]
B
Well, I was like, we've kind of done this bit already. Because during her baby shower, when her co worker hands her her baby, Miranda gets all excited to open a present and, like, almost lets that baby fall off a couch and curious to catch that baby.
- [43:53]
C
So this is a pattern.
- [43:54]
B
Miranda, look at yourself.
- [43:56]
C
So uptown Charlotte is decorating her last Christmas tree. This is one of the crazier things she's ever done. Also, where did she get a Christmas tree in July? That's more the question.
- [44:07]
B
Or is she like me? Is she an artificial tree gal?
- [44:10]
C
I can't see her being an artificial tree gal. Did she go in Central park and cut down a tree?
- [44:16]
B
You know what? Knowing Charlotte, she probably did. There's a warrant out for her arrest. You're not allowed to do that.
- [44:21]
C
So she's looking, like, really sad decorating her Christmas tree. And Harry comes in, is like, girl, are you okay? Like, what is this?
- [44:29]
B
Well, also, Charlotte reacts like she's caught. As if Harry's caught her masturbating. It's like, did you not think Harry would be home? Was the thought that you were gonna set up an entire Christmas tree and then pack it back up before Harry got back from work?
- [44:44]
C
And Harry, like, doesn't even care. He's like, you can still have a Christmas tree. That's totally fine.
- [44:49]
B
Not even just a Christmas tree. He's like, keep Christmas. Who cares? And she's like, I do. I'm gonna do this right. I'm not gonna be a meat eating vegetarian. And I have never understood this because growing up in Los Angeles, I was around a lot of interfaith households. So I grew up around a lot of Hanukkah and Christmas households. And I do not understand with this dynamic why we couldn't have an interfaith marriage. Oh, for sure.
- [45:16]
C
Like every friend of mine that was Jewish growing up, these bitches got Christmas and Hanukkah.
- [45:21]
B
Also, it's extra insulting because Harry not knowing the lyrics to the Dreidel song But insisting he can't marry someone who isn't Jewish, that made me so angry.
- [45:32]
C
No, I know.
- [45:33]
B
Like, at least with. Nobody wants this. He's a rabbi. I understand why his wife would need to be of his faith as well, but I don't know. Harry and Charlotte give. We celebrate both Hanukkah and Christmas vibes. But given everything that Charlotte gave up to marry Harry, and I'm sorry to keep relitigating in just like that. She has every right to be be fucking pissed off at rock for not wanting the day mitzvah.
- [46:00]
C
Also, there's that weird part of this scene where she's like, looking at this ornament and she's like, harry, this is like my favorite ornament. She's like, it's so rare to find a blue Christmas ornament. It's like, what? Also, the ornament isn't even blue. It's literally like green. Maybe it's teal on a good day, but blue it is not.
- [46:20]
B
But Chelsea, did you notice that it's so old that. That all of the sparkle has been rubbed off of the baby Jesus? This is also where their families not being on the show is quite odd because what does the waspy York family feel about the fact that Charlotte is rescinding her Protestant background?
- [46:42]
C
Wasn't she Episcopalian?
- [46:44]
B
Thank you. Episcopalian. I should know that. I went to an Episcopalian school that, by the way, was more than half Jewish. We celebrated everything in my school. We celebrated Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Ramadan.
- [46:56]
C
We celebrated Kwanzaa at your school there.
- [46:59]
B
Was a Kwanzaa chapel. Yes.
- [47:00]
C
Wow. Okay, so the next scene is another Smith Jared Samantha scene. He's forgiven her. Thank God.
- [47:08]
B
Well, she's dressed up like a stereotypical slutty French maid. This is where their role play starts. I realize because she's a waitress. Question mark.
- [47:20]
C
Yeah. Maybe she thought he would be into the role reversal or something.
- [47:24]
B
Well, she's dressed up like a French maid, but she's acting like a waitress. And he's somehow the half naked restaurant customer.
- [47:33]
C
Yeah, it's so true. Like, waitresses don't dress like that.
- [47:37]
B
Or wait, no, I'm realizing she refers to him as Mr. Waiter. This role plays.
- [47:42]
C
Wait, I'm confused.
- [47:43]
B
Yeah, this roleplay is very confusing. I realize that she calls him Mr. Waiter because this is when he's like, you have no idea what my name is. Right. And it was very spooky for me to hear that her first guess is that his name is Paul. We've got Lauren. And we've got Paul. In this episode, we learn that his.
- [48:02]
C
Name is Jerry, of course, which.
- [48:04]
B
Not a hot name. No, but maybe even less hot. We also learned that Jerry, his passion is not being a waiter, he's an actor.
- [48:12]
C
Which instantly gives Samantha the ick. Understandably so.
- [48:16]
B
Or as she says, there goes my hard on. And Jerry's like, good thing I still have mine. And then we get this kind of puzzling Carrie voiceover. She says, Samantha had many waiters in her past, but to the present day, this was her very first Jerry. Shouldn't it be, Samantha's had many waiters, but this was her first actor. Or she's had many waiter slash actors, but this was her first Jerry.
- [48:40]
C
I don't know, but I'm so confused. So we're back at Burgers. Carrie asks about the voicemail.
- [48:49]
B
Well, the double middle finger is, I think, more upsetting to her for sure. Which he doesn't have a memory about. Which again, like, red flag, red flag. Get out of that snuggling situation and leave that apartment. He doesn't remember. As someone who is prone to anger, I remember my angry outbursts. Frankly, it would be a little disturbing if I didn't.
- [49:13]
C
And Burger goes on to say, I'm angry because my ex, Lauren, cheated on me. She broke my heart. I was dead. Until I found you, Carrie Bradshaw. And then he asks her if she's ever been hurt. And I couldn't help but think like, this is the perfect time for Carrie to tell him about how she cheated on Aiden with Bitch.
- [49:34]
B
Thank you. That's exactly what I was wondering. Because he's like, have you ever been hurt like that? And she was like, ugh, you don't have the time. It's like the time to tell him that. Actually, you're a bit of a Lauren yourself.
- [49:47]
C
There's no way she told him about that.
- [49:49]
B
Look, cheating is never okay, but knowing what we know about Burger, maybe Lauren was justified. Just gonna put that out there. This is where we sort of end the whole past, future, present tense, with an end. Just like that, Carrie goes. And just like that, we moved out of the present and into our future, so.
- [50:08]
C
Or did they?
- [50:09]
B
Yeah, unfortunately for us, Carrie's like, all right, I guess I am serious with this person.
- [50:14]
C
So she decides to call Big, who's in Napa in a Jacuzzi. In a Jacuzzi.
- [50:20]
B
Oh, sorry, Jacuzzi's are cliche. He's in a hot tub.
- [50:23]
C
In a hot tub. It is the most obviously green screen scene of any episode of Sex and the City.
- [50:29]
B
The background is so fake looking, but because he's supposed to be in a hot, they had to build a realistic, like, tub of water for him to be in.
- [50:39]
C
But nothing about this seems natural.
- [50:41]
B
And somehow when Carrie's calling, he was submerged underneath the hot tub because he, like, pops out.
- [50:48]
C
And she's basically just like, hey, Big, like, no more phone sex for us. Because I actually am serious about this guy that I've been seeing. He's a writer and I'm a writer.
- [50:58]
B
And Big's like, that's cool. Anyway, bye. We'll talk some other time. Yeah, I'm on Big side. It's like, I don't want to hear about this person.
- [51:07]
C
Well, it's fair enough for Carrie to be like, babes, I can't be having phone sex. You can't be randomly calling me. Because if you do randomly call me, I may start participating and masturbating along with you. And that would be cheating.
- [51:20]
B
We also get our second Big Carrie Lore because she thinks he's gonna start having phone sex with her because he's like, remember when we were in the hot tub at the Four Seasons? And she's like, hold on now, partner. And he's like, no, when you lost your necklace in the Jets. And it's like, more of this. Did you guys rent a suite in the Four Seasons? Big, were you visiting, potentially your friend Jeffrey Epstein at the Four Seasons? Like, you're New Yorkers. What were you doing at the Four Seasons?
- [51:48]
C
Oh, my God, those new Jeffrey Epstein photos. The most cursed configurations of celebrities I've ever seen. Like the one with Woody Allen and Jeffrey Epstein. The one with Ghislaine with just, like, her pussy out, Michael Jackson.
- [52:02]
B
Chelsea, people are listening to this on Boxing Day. They're trying to enjoy their holiday.
- [52:07]
C
You're right.
- [52:08]
B
We're just saying. I'm sorry, John. James Preston would have been friends with Jeffrey Epstein. I know, again, we've talked about this, but it's just. It's true. And with every new.
- [52:17]
C
We're not saying he went to the island. We're saying that he's in his Rolodex.
- [52:21]
B
And I know it's probably weird to be like, would this fictional character have been friends with real life person Jeffrey Epstein? But, like, yes, Same with Richard Wright. Why did Big have to get out of New York and go to Napa?
- [52:34]
C
Oh, Richard Wright went to the island. That much I know.
- [52:40]
B
So, I mean, fair for Big to get off the phone and not want to hear about Carrie's current boyfriend. I Barely want to hear about. About Burger.
- [52:49]
C
Yeah, I don't want to hear about Burger. And that's, I think, why, like, this episode isn't my favorite because it's so Burger centric. Anyway. Charlotte converts to Judaism. She has a little dip in the. The basement of the synagogue. Carrie buys Burger a new sound machine.
- [53:05]
B
I will say I. I did love the multiple mentions of the Sharper Image.
- [53:10]
C
But that I kind of don't get because all those machines have, like, different settings. There's not one thing at the Sharper Image that's like just frog sounds.
- [53:19]
B
Well, I believe Carrie's point. And this is a 2003 era sound machine that only had four sounds. This has, like, a bunch of more sounds.
- [53:27]
C
Sure. But we're also not talking about the most important element of the scene, which is that it is revealed that Burger has a Pulitzer Prize.
- [53:36]
B
Oh, he's joking.
- [53:37]
C
Is he joking?
- [53:39]
B
Absolutely.
- [53:40]
C
I was like, I did not see the seal on Hurricane Pandora.
- [53:44]
B
See, this is the problem. When two sarcastic, pithy people get into a relationship because you're like, wait, is that true? Is that not true?
- [53:51]
C
We don't know enough about Berger at this point for that not to be true necessarily.
- [53:55]
B
Except for the tone that Ron Livingston delivers that line. I don't believe.
- [54:01]
C
I thought it was ambiguous.
- [54:02]
B
Sorry, I'm just imagining. It's like, oh, yeah, I didn't tell you. I was on the Spotlight team for the Boston Globe and I was part of writing that article about the church.
- [54:12]
C
Okay, well, that's not what he got his Pulitzer for. Anyway. And then the episode ends.
- [54:17]
B
We obviously didn't love this episode.
- [54:20]
C
I'm giving it six Manolos.
- [54:22]
B
I was gonna give it six Manolos, but maybe add an extra Manolo for Jennifer Coolidge.
- [54:27]
C
I did add an extra Manolo for Jennifer Coolidge.
- [54:30]
B
Oh, wow. All right, so let's say.
- [54:32]
C
But sure, we'll give it a 6.5.
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A 6.5 Manolos.
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Who is the MVP? Jennifer Coolidge, obviously.
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B
I was gonna say Smith Jarrett because he fought for his worth. And he's more than just a boy toy. He's an actor. And he's not. He's gonna quit cater waiter jobs to fuck Samantha. He's not gonna take $300 from her. You know, this is the beginning of our emotionally intelligent himbo and I love him.
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C
Who are you voting off of the Island?
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Burger. Burger Gu. Go. Yep, Go.
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Best dressed. I'm going with Samantha because I think her outfits are the most memorable. Between the French maid, the weird chartreuse lingerie set.
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B
I'll tell you who's not best dressed is Carrie in this episode. And we didn't get into it during the scene. But I do want to discuss the outfit that she wears to the Jennifer Coolidge bag party. That is a very tough silhouette because she's wearing these kind of parachute cargo pants and a dress. But the dress goes down to, like, not the knee. It's longer than the knee, but not to the ankle. It's a very awkward length.
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And then she has, like, a satin bomber over it. Right.
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B
It's a lot.
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C
Okay, best line.
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B
It's a part of the dialogue, but the. She tried to kill herself. She took six Advils on an empty stomach.
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C
Same. Who are you? I'm going with Jennifer Coolidge.
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B
Do tell me.
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C
I mean, if I had money to burn, I, too, would have a handbag line.
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B
That would be your vanity project of choice.
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C
I've had an emotionally unstable moment or two. But I like to think that I'm kind of funny. So I feel like I fuck with that vibe.
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B
And I've seen you do some damage with a hot glue gun. So, yeah, I think you could do it.
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C
What about you?
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B
I guess I'm Miranda. She has had some unhinged reactions during this episode. And I definitely saw myself in that Biggest trigger.
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C
Mine is Samantha's MCM wallet.
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B
That's highly specific. I guess my biggest trigger is learning the fact that Berger does not live in a studio. That he turned his living room into his bedroom so that he could have his bedroom be his office for all of his brilliant writing.
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C
Okay, hottest take, you go. Harry isn't religious enough to necessitate Charlotte converting. He's watching football on the Sabbath. He's down for a Christmas tree, and he eats pork. And I'm not saying that doing any of those things are wrong. I'm just saying that asking someone to convert when you're not even kosher seems insane.
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B
Also, because it wasn't until this episode that I didn't realize that he's like, keep the Christmas tree. Let's keep Christmas as well. It's like, what is the line? Also, your mother is dead.
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C
Well, that's the thing. The whole thing about getting Charlotte to convert did not stem from his own religious beliefs. It stemmed from a promise that he made to his mother.
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B
Who's now dead.
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C
Exactly.
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B
My hottest take is that from one Lauren to another Lauren. Lauren did nothing wrong, okay? And if she did cheat on him, she had her reasons. And she's trying to make it right. She wants to have a resolution Lun. She wants to put everything behind them and he's given her the double middle finger.
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C
Well, it's fair enough for him to still be angry, but yeah, I would cheat on him too. So justice for Lauren. And I'm sure Carrie would have cheated on him also if he hadn't dumped her so soon.
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B
God, could you imagine if the writers were like, if it was like the 15th season of sex and the City and they were like, we don't know where to go with this storyline and they like brought Big back for her to have a second affair with Big.
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C
While she's with Burger, I'm sure it would have happened.
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B
You know what? This was not the most interesting Sex and the City episode, but sometimes the weaker episodes are the more fun to talk about because when it's a really good episode, it's hard to add anything to it because it's just sort of like, well, that was brilliant. That was great.
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C
I'm amazed that I was able to add anything at all. I feel so brain dead. We're really like approaching the finish line in terms of getting work done before the holidays.
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B
I feel like Rachel Sennett and Potties Bodies Bodies. Having a podcast is hard. You have to book the guests. You have to build an audience. It's a lot of work. On that note, guys, this is our last episode of the year.
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C
What's gonna be in store for us in 2026? Personally, culturally, God knows, I don't know.
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B
But we'll be there and we'll discuss it together.
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C
All right, thank you guys for listening. Happy New Year.
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B
Merry Christmas. Happy Kwanzaa. Happy New Year. Happy Hanukkah. We'll see you in 2026.
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C
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