257: On Sex and the City: All or Nothing

Summary

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Every Outfit Podcast

Episode 257: On Sex and the City: "All or Nothing"

Release Date: January 23, 2026

Hosts: Chelsea Fairless & Lauren Garoney

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Episode Overview

This episode is part of Every Outfit's monthly Sex and the City rewatch series, with Chelsea and Lauren doing a deep dive into "All or Nothing," a Season 3 episode centered around Carrie’s affair with Mr. Big, Samantha’s flu-induced vulnerability, and Charlotte’s prenup predicament. While weaving in their own recent personal drama—a bout of illness that paralleled some themes in the show—the hosts unpack the fashion, cultural moments, and social commentary delivered through the lens of this iconic episode.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why This Episode Now?

• Chelsea recounts a "near-death" flu experience that led Lauren to perform a “Samantha” by bringing supplies, sparking a parallel to the show’s friendship moments.
• Chelsea: "I was like, on my knees, vomiting and sobbing and shaking. Like, it was, like, so fucked up." [03:15]
• Lauren: "So it was an unfun ayahuasca trip." [03:40]
• The illness resulted in a Sex and the City binge and inspired revisiting "All or Nothing" ([07:29]).

2. The Episode’s Significance

• Lauren calls it "maybe one of the strongest episodes in Sex and the City history.” [02:26]
• Focus is on the aftermath of Carrie's initial infidelity with Big: “once could be a mistake. Twice, not a mistake.” [08:28]
• Written by Jenny Bix—“our all time fave. Our queen.” [08:37]

3. Cultural Context and the Turn of the Millennium

• Carrie and Aiden’s “girl’s night” banter highlights Wiccan trends of the late 1990s/early 2000s and pop culture references from Buffy the Vampire Slayer ([10:29]-[11:06]).
• Delivery services like FreshDirect, the evolution of the Meatpacking District, and how SATC shaped perceptions of New York real estate/fashion ([14:20]-[16:00]).

4. Themes of "Having It All"

• Samantha’s admission, “At my age, my mother had three kids and a drunk husband” launches an exploration of the iconic 'having it all' narrative—for careers, love, and independence ([17:24]).
• References to Helen Gurley Brown and Candace Bushnell cement SATC's status as a meditation on female aspiration, independence, and the costs of both ([17:59]-[18:33]).

5. Cheating, Guilt, and Justification

• Carrie’s struggle following her first infidelity with Big: “How could it feel so good when it’s so bad?” [24:41]
• Samantha offers non-judgmental support, highlighting SATC’s stance on female non-judgment.
• The hosts praise the episode’s handling of the chemistry between Carrie and Big: “watching two charismatic people with incredible chemistry behaving badly, I’m instantly on their side.” [43:28]
• Analysis of gendered double standards regarding cheating—audiences are less forgiving toward female characters ([44:09]).

6. Carrie’s Emotional State

• Carrie's behavior oscillates between rationalization, guilt, and self-sabotage—smoking relapse, obsessive cleaning, distraction techniques, and ultimately, further cheating ([37:29]–[43:03]).
• Lauren: "Are we a generation of women who can't choose just one from column A? Did we all have too much to handle or was Samantha right? Can we have it all?" [38:14]
• Chelsea speculates Carrie’s “version of having it all: Polyamory. She gets both of them.” [39:21]

7. Fashion Deep Dives & Details

• Carrie's asymmetrical thrifted top, trousers, and “I shot Junior” vintage white jean jacket—a Dallas reference ([19:18]–[20:23]).
• Costuming signals mood and character arcs—Carrie’s “adult baby” Oshkosh shortalls, her haunted engagement party “double bun” hairstyle, Big’s midlife crisis palm print shirt ([49:59], [59:12], [64:36]).

8. Charlotte and the Prenup

• The hosts break down the absurdity and sexism in Charlotte’s prenup (“$500,000 over 30 years is $16,666 a year—doesn’t even cover her shopping habit”) and the added payout for birthing a boy ([33:29]–[34:02], [34:13]).
• Charlotte’s “Pollyanna” view on marriage vs. harsh WASPy realities and family politics.

9. Samantha’s Vulnerability & Comedic Genius

• Samantha, bedbound with the flu, discovers it “was easier to find a guy to screw her than one who’d screw in her curtain rod” [36:47].
• Kim Cattrall’s performance hailed as some of her best comedic work—ill, whiny Samantha is rare.
• Samantha’s riff: “Honey, I can hardly blow my nose, let alone blow you.” [29:37]

10. Miranda’s Phone Sex Woes

• Miranda’s date turns out to be juggling “tandem phone sex” with multiple women—hosts dissect the logistics and absurdity of this subplot ([48:38]–[49:49]).

11. The Fallout: Lies, Lost Dogs, & Coming Clean

• Carrie’s desperate cover-up: “Like any good junkie, I knew how to hide the evidence. No, you didn’t.” [50:52]
• Tension ratchets when Aiden returns, confesses his love while Carrie is fraught with guilt ([52:14]–[54:22]).
• Pete the dog’s disappearance and Carrie’s rain-soaked existential crisis serve as the emotional climax ([67:17]–[68:25]).

12. The Big–Carrie Dynamic

• Host analysis: Big’s lack of guilt, narcissism, and belief that what he and Carrie share is superior to his marriage ([42:05], [66:10]).
• Notable exchange:
  • Big: “Don’t talk about him and her like it’s you and me.” [66:07]
  • Lauren: “He regards him and Carrie above his relationship with his own wife.” [66:43]

13. Memorable Quotes and Banter

• Chelsea: “What did Paco Rabanne even smell like?” [43:16]
• Lauren: “Girl, that was on you.” [56:52]
• Carrie (character): “I had slept with both of them in the last 48 hours.” [57:52]
• Samantha: “You hear that, New York? We have it all!” [74:02]

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Timestamps of Notable Segments

• Their “Carrie/Samantha” sick weekend, real-life crossover: [03:15]–[07:29]
• Carrie’s Guilt and Samantha Confessional: [24:05]–[27:09]
• Discussion on “Having It All” and 90s womanhood: [17:24]–[18:33], [38:14]–[39:21]
• Charlotte, Trey and the WASPy Prenup: [32:08]–[34:13], [61:08]
• Cheating and Consequences, Carrie & Big: [43:03]–[54:22], [66:07]
• Samantha’s Illness Saga: [36:47], [55:32]
• Carrie’s Cover-Up and the Great Dog Escape: [49:59]–[68:25]

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Fashion & Pop-Culture Notes

• Carrie’s White Jean Jacket: “I shot Junior” (nod to Dallas) [20:13]
• Engagement Party Outfits: Color-coded fairy godmothers, Donna Karan & 1950s chartreuse dress [59:12], [75:02]
• Big’s Depression Shirt: Palm print, “Charlie Sheen in Two and a Half Men” vibes [64:36]
• Hairstyle Shock: Carrie’s double buns, described as “vaguely Hocus Pocus/Bjork/Princess Leia” [59:12]–[59:45]

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Hosts’ Best/Worst Awards & Final Thoughts

• MVP: Tie between Carrie (dramatic) and Samantha (comedic), though Charlotte also acknowledged for standing up for herself ([73:22]–[74:18])
• Best Line:
  • Chelsea: “Wood chips and Paco Rabanne.” [75:37]
  • Lauren: “It’ll look lovely under the ramen we’ll have to eat due to my outstanding loans.” [75:40]
• Worst Vibes: Mr. Big for being “a prick” [74:43]
• Best Dressed: Carrie’s chartreuse/“celery” chiffon dress at the engagement party [75:02]
• Trigger: WASPy party and Carrie’s refusal to wash sex sheets [76:25]
• Hot Take:
  • Chelsea: “Carrie called Big because she wanted to fuck him again.” [76:49]
  • Lauren: “Aiden should have broken up with Carrie after the dog incident/lying.” [77:19]

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Notable Quotes

• On cheating:

  • Lauren: “Getting the thing we thought we wanted and still we want more.” [26:31]
  • Chelsea: “As Courtney Love once said, I get what I want and I never want it again.” [26:31]

• On friendship:

  • Carrie (character): “Oh, we are not all alone. We have each other.” [58:02]
  • Lauren: "Yes, Carrie and Samantha. You have each other until, you know… Carrie decides to stop paying Samantha's monthly publicist rate..." [58:08]

• On decision fatigue:

  • Chelsea: “Being an adult is psychologically taxing because you have to make all these choices all the time and do all this adult stuff that just slowly, slowly chips away at you.” [40:09]

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Overall Tone

The episode is filled with sharp, irreverent humor, insider fashion observations, and an obsessive attention to SATC canon. Chelsea and Lauren mix personal anecdotes (vomiting, Erewhon, friendship rescues) with critical insights about gender roles, New York real estate, prenups, and pop culture, while never taking the show—or themselves—too seriously. Banter about everything from dog acting to leather pants to “adult babies” keeps the tone lively, self-aware, and often laugh-out-loud funny.

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Transcript

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[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

I spent $40,000 on shoes.

[Lauren Garoney]

What's the matter, Morty? Great gowns. Beautiful gowns.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Fashion has changed.

[Lauren Garoney]

It hasn't. Hi, I'm Lauren Garoney.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And I'm Chelsea Fairless.

[Lauren Garoney]

And we are back with our monthly Sex and the City rewatch episode. We are doing the episode all or Nothing. I would say maybe one of the strongest episodes in Sex and the City history.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Absolutely.

[Lauren Garoney]

We have done the previous Episode Easy Come, Easy Go. As a precursor to a deep dive we did on the Big and Carrie Affair, but we really haven't done many episodes from the saga that is the Carrie Big Affair. And really, the reason we're doing this episode this month isn't even to get into Carrie and Big, but it's because you got monumentally sick this past weekend and we had our own Carrie Samantha moment.

[Chelsea Fairless]

We did. We did. I'm back from the brink of death, guys. Like, I'm not even joking. I came down with the worst vomiting bug I have ever had in my life. And I felt like it was like an exorcism. It was like the end of practical magic. Like, that kind of vibe. Like, I was, like, on my knees, vomiting and sobbing and shaking. Like, it was, like, so fucked up.

[Lauren Garoney]

So it was an unfun ayahuasca trip.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Exactly. And it was also fucked up because I came down with it right after I had a really big night. Like, I had been out late out at a club, drinking. So I immediately thought, like, oh, my God, I'm extremely hungover. I'm never drinking again. How could I do this to myself? And then, thankfully, the next day, my friend yo who I was with was like, babe, like, I've been vomiting every 15 minutes. And I was like, yes, I'm not a drunk ass bitch. I'm just violently, violently ill. And I was by myself because tat's still in Australia. So on the third day of being bedridden, Lauren came over with some Pedialyte and some Erewhon, which I really appreciated.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, I got nervous because we were supposed to see each other Saturday night, and thank God we didn't because you were like, I have a terrible hangover. And I'm like, I didn't sleep because of the baby. I'm gonna have an early night. And then the next morning, you were just like, oh, babes, thank God I didn't come over and make you and the baby sick. I've been vomiting. And then it seemed like you were on an upswing. And then by Monday, you were like, I have the worst headache. I'm dehydrated. And that's when I started to panic a little bit because I was like, oh, she is very close to probably needing to be hospitalized. Like, I gotta get electrolytes in her. I gotta get her Erewhon provisions. And frankly, I think it was less the electrolytes and more the kale white bean salad from Erewhon that brought you back to life.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay. But it was so Funny, because this bitch walks in my bedroom looking like Julianne Morin. Safe, like, fully covered, like mask gloves, like insane looking, spraying Lysol.

[Lauren Garoney]

Also, of course, I love that you.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Did a little comedy bit. I actually filmed a whole haul video of all the stuff that she brought to my house. And I'll put it on Instagram stories over the weekend so you guys can see it. It's. It's really funny.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, then it felt like Silkwood, because when I came home, Margarita, who watches Morty, I went in because I wore gloves. I came in, took all my clothes off, took the mask off, and she made me take a decontamination shower before I could even hold my child babes.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I look like Meryl Streep in Silkwood right now. I lost five pounds from that vomiting. Like, it was fucking crazy. And it also gave me the most insane dreams. Like, I had this one dream that Tat was a cannibal. Like, she had it in her head that she, like had to eat human flesh, so she bought some woman's thigh on the Internet and then like fried it up like a piece of spam and ate it. And then the worst part is, is that I then went on the podcast and was like, guys, tat's a cannibal. Lol. And then I woke up and was like, what the fuck?

[Lauren Garoney]

Is it weird that as you're saying this? I'm like, it's not in the top 10 of things I think that Tat might get into, but, like, it's maybe in the top 50. If Tat was like, I bought a woman's thigh off the Internet and I'm gonna flambe it, I'd be like, all right.

[Chelsea Fairless]

A friend of mine was like, what do you think that dream means? And I was like, honestly, I think it means that that is how ride or die I am for this bitch and how non judgmental I am. Because I was like, you want to be a cannibal babe? Live your dream. I'm not going to stop you. I love you for you.

[Lauren Garoney]

I'm more surprised that you would reveal this within your dream on our podcast, that this is something you wouldn't gatekeep. So, yeah, that is how much you love Tatiana and all of her choices, good and bad, truly.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But the plus side of being bedridden for three and a half days is that I did a chronological Sex and the City rewatch. I am now halfway through the third season, and it's been incredible.

[Lauren Garoney]

I was wondering if you would get to this episode by the time we recorded it or you would have to jump ahead. But I'm glad that you were able to watch this in chronological order. Have you stopped at all or nothing?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I think I'm a little past all or nothing now.

[Lauren Garoney]

Are you in the LA episodes yet?

[Chelsea Fairless]

No. Okay, so I did stop at all or nothing.

[Lauren Garoney]

I think you did. So all or nothing. This is the episode, the first episode post Carrie and big beginning. I can't say they're affair because I think they make a big point in this episode or at least Carrie does that an affair I guess happens when you fuck a married man twice. Once could be a mistake.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yes, once could be a mistake. Twice not a mistake. This episode was written by Jenny Bix.

[Lauren Garoney]

That's why it's a banger.

[Chelsea Fairless]

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[Lauren Garoney]

So this episode begins with Carrie and Aiden making out at his apartment. As Carrie says in voiceover, one of the best things about being in a great relationship is feeling comfortable enough to leave it for an evening. There's a whole conversation where Aiden's like, what do you girls get into? And she goes, you know the typical stuff. We braid our hair, crank calls and that wicked stuff that is so popular. And it's like, if you need to know what year this episode takes place, Wiccan stuff was big. Circa 1999, 2000. Like, I was watching this and I was watching Buffy, which had its own Wiccan storyline with Willow, who becomes a witch.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Totally. And no one fully knew what being Wiccan was, but there is an interest in it. It's like you would buy books about it and not read them. Or at least that's what I did in middle school.

[Lauren Garoney]

Aiden asks if there's talk of boys, and Carrie goes, there is some talk of the boys. And is it her? Aiden, that's like men's greatest fear. It's Aiden, because Carrie goes, I thought that was hair loss. And then Aiden shakes his hair and goes, no problem here. Which I wonder if the writers remembered this throwaway line for the following season with the Good Fight, where we learned that Aiden uses Rogain.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Right. I never even connected that.

[Lauren Garoney]

Because he's very proud of his luscious locks.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Carrie really needs a girl's night because in the previous episode, she has slept with Mr. Big. And she is struck with an intrusive thought about the sex that they have, which is not explicit, but maybe the most, like, overtly sexual moment on the show.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah, it. It happens. Because as Carrie is walking, she says in voiceover, E.B. white said, no one should come to New York unless they're lucky. And I was. I had an amazing boyfriend who had all his hair. An amazing boyfriend who has all his hair will come back many times in this episode. Good friends and a married ex boyfriend I had slept with a week ago. And that's where we get this very hot flashbacks, as you've noticed. And this was an incredibly controversial storyline for its time. There was much debate about whether to make our heroine, Carrie, do this. And I feel like these first glimpses that we see of Carrie and Big fucking are so hot and aspirational that it does make you, as an audience member, go, like, I see why Carrie cheated.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, of course, the fascinating thing about the Carrie big affair is we totally understand where she's coming from. We don't think it's right that she continues it necessarily, but certainly at least the first time they slept together, we'll give her a pass for that.

[Lauren Garoney]

So the girls are at Samantha's apartment because of course, Samantha now lives in the Meatpacking District.

[Chelsea Fairless]

She's left that weird ass apartment with the four poster bed that looks like a romance novel with the old timey phone.

[Lauren Garoney]

I'm sure the production designers had so much fun because very few of the characters move throughout the course of the series. So the fact that Samantha moves and they had this opportunity to completely do a 180 on her interior design. Like as you said, her old bed was four posters. This has not even a headboard, but I believe is on wheels.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Also, it's like we see the kitchen in this apartment immediately because her living room and her kitchen are adjoined. And it is so of the era. It is like it's brushed steel, it's Y2K blue. It's like she has like blue glassware that's lit with blue lights on open shelving.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, this also reminded me of the fact that I feel like for us living in California at the time, we got so much of our information about what was going on in New York from the show. Like the idea that, okay, there's this neighborhood called the Meatpacking District. And it's on the come up was.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Like, oh, okay, yeah, totally. That's probably how I learned what the Meatpacking District was.

[Lauren Garoney]

Although wasn't it Diane von Furstenberg who like first anointed the Meatpacking District as like a cool neighborhood?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I believe so. And then like the Alexander McQueen store followed at some point and now it has Hermes and everything.

[Lauren Garoney]

An Apple store.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Charlotte is like, wow, this neighborhood is super fab. And Miranda promptly shits all over it and is like, yeah, we're yards away from dumpsters full of rotting cow. I have to say, I was walking around the Meatpacking District recently and I stumbled upon a street that was just meat companies. And I was like, wow, y' all are still doing this here? I had no idea.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah, they're like, we've owned this building since 1870. We're not leaving. This is where we learn that this whole evening and all the accoutrements have been purchased from some kind of version of yummy.com or a proto doordash, which seems to blow all of the other girls minds.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, New York did have delivery services like that in the early 2000s, but it was a very like 1% kind of thing.

[Lauren Garoney]

Right.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And it goes without saying, but there were no smartphones. You would have to call someone.

[Lauren Garoney]

I mean, I hope that Samantha tipped this person quite well because they had to pick up baby quiches. And I assume Gristeedi's go to the Virgin Megastore to get a DVD of An Affair to Remember. And also stop by a bodega to get Samantha her preferred form of condoms.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I love it. Do you remember when Fresh Direct was like the most aspirational thing?

[Lauren Garoney]

You know, everyone's talking about how they want to be a millennial in the 2000 and tens, but no one talks about Fresh Direct. I was going to say that we wrote a book called We Should All Be Mirandas, but you have never been more Samantha than in this scene. Because you love a delivery service.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I do. Where would I be without Postmates?

[Lauren Garoney]

My mom, by the way, when I was like, I'm dropping off provisions to Chelsea, she even was like, can't she have that stuff delivered?

[Chelsea Fairless]

That's not the point.

[Lauren Garoney]

You needed to see a friendly face. It was a mixture. Like, Samantha, it was you being alone and severely dehydrated that made me concerned.

[Chelsea Fairless]

To be fair, I'm still really dehydrated, so I'm drinking. What is this? Are we doing an ad for them this week?

[Lauren Garoney]

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[Chelsea Fairless]

Head to iqbar.com outfit. Just kidding. Is that the wrong URL?

[Lauren Garoney]

I don't know what the promo code is. This is where we get a little bit of Samantha lore because she's like, we have it all. At my age, my mother had three kids and a drunk husband.

[Chelsea Fairless]

We know so little about this woman. We know this. We know the fact that she worked at Dairy Queen. We know that she once fucked a guy because his parents had a pool.

[Lauren Garoney]

And now we know that she has two siblings who she clearly doesn't speak to and a drunk father. So this is where we get into a discussion about having it all, which I feel like is the thesis of Sex in the City.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, I think the having it all conversation was such a big thing in the 90s, and I associate that with Helen Gurley Brown and her 80s self help book, Having it All, which was about this topic. We really should do a book club episode about that at some point. She, of course, also wrote Sex and the Single Girl and was Candace Bushnell's predecessor and former employer. And yeah, her whole thing was sex, career, financial independence. So Samantha really is the ultimate woman who is having it all.

[Lauren Garoney]

And of course, Charlotte has to be very Pollyanna about this and says having it all really means having someone special to share it with. She goes, I'm sorry, guys, my life wasn't complete until I met Trey.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, you're gonna get divorced, so I guess you don't actually have it all.

[Lauren Garoney]

You know what you have or what you're about to have. A crazy mother in law.

[Chelsea Fairless]

See, Samantha actually does have it all because she doesn't care about that kind of thing. Like, she doesn't care about having a boyfriend or a husband. She just wants someone to fuck her on the hood of a car. While Cyndi Lauper's True Colors plays from time to time and get kicked out.

[Lauren Garoney]

Of Abu Dhabi for it.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That wasn't why she got kicked out, Lauren. It's been way too long since you've seen Sex and the City too clearly.

[Lauren Garoney]

So everyone leaves and Carrie stays. We haven't talked about Carrie's outfit in this scene, which is, I feel like a little bit of a deep cut Carrie silhouette, but it's so, to me, quintessential Carrie Bradshaw. Which is like the trousers, this asymmetrical shirt that I'm sure came from Patricia Field's store, but this kind of handmade or found at a thrift store. And then a white jean jacket.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, the top is highly specific. It's kind of like a 80s by way of the early aughts, sort of take on punk and New wave and deconstruction and stuff like that.

[Lauren Garoney]

And then you found an amazing detail about Carrie's white jean jacket, which you would just think is a Levi's jacket, but is clearly a vintage jacket because of what it says on the back.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, she's wearing this jacket with a big, like, sparkly, glittery graphic that says, I shot Junior, which I must have noticed at some point. But you see it quite briefly in.

[Lauren Garoney]

This episode when she returns to Aiden's apartment.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And that, of course, is a reference to the television show Dallas and its famous series finale.

[Lauren Garoney]

Right, where the character JR Is shot by an unseen person and the show was off air for all summer. And this was like a quintessential water cooler moment where everyone was guessing who could have shot Junior. And then when the show came back for the following season. Oh, it was all a dream.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That was beautiful.

[Lauren Garoney]

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[Chelsea Fairless]

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[Chelsea Fairless]

I got two things. I've always wanted an Elsa pretty open heart necklace, but I wanted one of the large ones, like one of the large silver ones. And I found one that was $175. And the same exact necklace is like over $1,000 on the website. So that was an amazing deal. Like, that's too big of a price discrepancy to justify the little, like, blue bag that they give you if you buy stuff in the store. I also got this dress, this like pink chiffon 70s dress by John Bates, who's like a semi obscure British designer. And I had to buy it because it was $40. And then when I got it, there was a tag from a fancy vintage store still attached that said $550. So I got a bargain there.

[Lauren Garoney]

Also, I'll admit I haven't been shopping much on the RealReal because I've been selling on the RealReal and Chell, let me tell you, when you sell on the RealReal, they do everything for you from photography and copywriting to shipping, pricing and customer service. So you can just back and get paid. And my first store credit just came through from my sales and I am ready to start shopping. And, you know, I think I want to get out of my designer comfort zone. Do you have any recommendations?

[Chelsea Fairless]

If I was Lauren Garoni, I would get into Yoji.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, okay.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You don't have anything from him, do you know, because I feel like there's the menswear component that you enjoy. It's. There's obviously an avant garde aspect to it, but it's not too crazy. You know, you could have a Carolyn Bessette adjacent moment in Yoji. I think that would be good for you.

[Lauren Garoney]

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[Lauren Garoney]

Okay, so Carrie has remained, even though all the girls have left. Because she's got to tell someone about this affair. Or the fact that you, Big, and.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That person is always Samantha whenever she's done something bad.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

I slept with Big last week.

[Podcast Host - Ad Read (The RealReal)]

You're having an affair?

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

No, no.

[Lauren Garoney]

No affair.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

Just one night. And it is not happening again.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay?

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

Please don't tell Charlotte or Miranda.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

God, I'm awful.

[Lauren Garoney]

I'm awful.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

I have this great boyfriend. I don't know what I was doing.

[Lauren Garoney]

Nothing men haven't been doing for centuries.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Was it good?

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

Oh, it was great. And it's not happening again.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Got it. Plates.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

How could it feel so good when it's so bad?

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, honey, they design it that way.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Her little moan in the flashback is so funny.

[Lauren Garoney]

We should say for people who haven't watched this episode in a while, these flashbacks are something out of an Adrian Lyon film. Like, her and Big are sweat soaked, yet Carrie still wearing a bra.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Samantha goes on to say, like, babe, he hasn't said I love you yet. So it's totally cool.

[Lauren Garoney]

I have remarked on this before. This is a bizarre maxim of this show, which is like, you basically can do anything in a relationship up until the someone says, I love you and then you're fucked. Then you're locked in. Then your behavior has consequences in relationships.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I don't agree with this logic. I agree that it's slightly less bad. But I still think that if it's so early on in a relationship that you haven't said I love you, it's kind of a bad indicator of where this relationship could be headed.

[Lauren Garoney]

But this is, I think, one of, again, the strongest episodes in Sex and the City history. Because this arc is maybe the greatest arc in Sex and the City history of giving Carrie what she wants. Right. After two seasons of being in this push and pull relationship with Big and dating someone that she loves desperately but is so emotionally unavailable. And then you give her everything she wanted with Big in this emotionally available man with all his hair. You also missed the second reference. Carrie's like, I have this great boyfriend who smells great and has all his hair, but it's not enough. And I do think it is a lesser impulse. It's a baser impulse, but I Think it's something that we can all relate to of getting the thing we thought we wanted and still we want more.

[Chelsea Fairless]

As Courtney Love once said, I get what I want and I never want it again.

[Lauren Garoney]

I will say, I think if this show was happening now, like, the realistic end to this arc is like, this is Carrie's rock bottom. Like, when the affair comes to an end, Natasha finds out, well, that's her rock bottom. But I feel like if the show were done today, Carrie would go to therapy and be like, okay, I've hit a rock bottom. I seek out unavailable men. How do I break this habit? But that's what I love about Sex and the City. She doesn't do any of that. And she keeps repeating these patterns.

[Chelsea Fairless]

No, she literally did do that in like season two or whatever when she went to therapy. And that was the conclusion that she came to, was that she picked the wrong men. But then she stopped going to therapy because of Jon Bon Jovi.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, yeah, she went to therapy exactly three times and was like, solved it. There's also this great moment that really epitomizes the Samantha and Carrie dynamic where Carrie goes, don't you want to judge me just a little? And Samantha goes, not my style.

[Chelsea Fairless]

What about cannibalism thoughts?

[Lauren Garoney]

Don't even tease that to the eventual HBO owned by Netflix. Okay. They will do a cannibal mashup with Sex and the City. So like an addict, they just start.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Eating all of those emotionally unavailable men.

[Lauren Garoney]

Now you're actually pitching like a good show. Keep this to yourself. We should write this. But like an addict, Carrie goes over to Aiden's place and sleeps over because she's like, I need to be with you because I might fudge big.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But then unfortunately, he has to go to Pennsylvania bright and early to deliver a chair. And instantly Carrie seems somewhat emotionally unstable, shall I say?

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, yeah, she's definitely in the bargaining stage because she's like, I'll make you cookies. And he's like, you don't cook. She's like, fine, I'll buy you cookies.

[Chelsea Fairless]

She's like, don't go. I may fudge Mr. Big.

[Lauren Garoney]

I didn't go back and watch the episode with its commentary track, but I do know on the DVDs, this particular episode has a commentary track. And I do remember from the many times that I've watched it that fun fact, Chelsea, because it looks like Aiden is leaving in the pre dawn hours, but they actually shot that at sunset.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay, that's not even an interesting tidbit. How do you even Remember that?

[Lauren Garoney]

Because the director in me was like, oh, that's cool. You don't always have to shoot exactly the time of day you need it to be.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You learn something from that.

[Lauren Garoney]

So going back to Samantha and having it all, as Carrie says, Samantha has it all, including the flu.

[Chelsea Fairless]

She's also, like, wearing a sheer red caftan with a teal bra and, like, trying to close her curtains, but her curtain rod falls.

[Lauren Garoney]

You've never been more Samantha than in this episode.

[Chelsea Fairless]

No, I know. Truly, I saw so much of myself in that. She tries to call her fuck buddies.

[Lauren Garoney]

To come help her who just want to use her for sex because that is the basis of their relationship. And she has this very funny line. You don't hear his line of dialog, but whatever he says, it causes Samantha to respond, honey, I can hardly blow my nose, let alone blow you. And obviously the guy's like, I don't want to get sick. And Samantha's like, yeah, I wouldn't want to get you sick either, and hangs up the phone. I will say, in today's day and age, you could just hire a task rabbit to reattach your drapery. But for Samantha's whole point about how you can, like, find everything on the Internet and have everything delivered, like, can't she just find a handyman?

[Chelsea Fairless]

It was hard to do that shit back in the day.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, that apartment is very small, so I don't think that there's a phone book anywhere in that blue kitchen.

[Chelsea Fairless]

So uptown at Bergdorf's, Charlotte and Trey are shopping for their bridal registry. But then Trey has to pay for everything. I'm confused.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, I didn't even know you could do a bridal registry at Bergdorf, but I guess that makes sense.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah.

[Lauren Garoney]

Of course.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Charlotte is wearing a nude tube dress with a nude headband that from the waist up reads very skims slash easy. When you get the full length shot, you see that there's stripes at the bottom of her dress, but it feels very now. At first glance, it does.

[Lauren Garoney]

I don't know if you saw the Khloe Kardashian podcast interview with Kim, but Kim is rocking a headband.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, yeah. Not dissimilar from Charlotte's.

[Lauren Garoney]

So Charlotte wants thirteen hundred dollar china, to which Trey goes, oh, great. It'll look lovely under the ramen. We'll have to eat due to my outstanding loans.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Come again? Not only did I think you were rich, but I thought you were the kind of rich that, like, cares about shit like China.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, I would imagine that Bunny has selected the McDougal Sons China already, one would think.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But, like, these people aren't eating on CB2 plates like me. Let's be real.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, I didn't even think about. Yeah, this is very confusing. Why would you be picking items for your registry if you want your husband to buy all of the stuff?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Also, like, call me crazy, but isn't $1,300 for a full set of china from Bergdorf's like, a pretty good deal even at that time?

[Lauren Garoney]

Or was. Ah, plates $1,300?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I don't think it was per plate.

[Lauren Garoney]

So Trey and Charlotte are having an engagement party. Charlotte asks about his guest list. He goes, oh, yeah, of course. Here it is. And also something else. And that something else is a prenup.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Trey's emotional intelligence is not good. At times, it's as if he's never met a woman before.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, also, I feel like this is an indicator of things to come, that Trey is not good at conflict. Like, he has to hide the prenup. He doesn't even give his wife a context of what this document is. He's pretending that it is the guest list for their engagement party.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But isn't that just WASP culture? Like, you sort of just push everything down and then have, like, an alcoholic breakdown here and there?

[Lauren Garoney]

I guess so. I think for him, he just, like, maniacally plays tennis at night, shirtless. So the girls are at lunch. There's prenup talk. I feel like maybe this is where I first heard about prenups as well, possibly that or People magazine. But of course, Charlotte's, like, marriage is supposed to be about love and happiness, and Miranda's got the zinger and the protection of assets. And this is so unromantic. Charlotte feels. So there's something peculiar about the prenup. And I would love to discuss with you the vesting schedule.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I know, because the terms of this prenup is you get a $500,000 payout, or it's a $500,000 maximum. And it's sort of based on how many years you've been together, right?

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes. For every five years you're married, you get a percentage of $500,000, to which Charlotte goes, I'm only worth $500,000. And then Miranda goes, over 30 years, as if that's a good thing. I fucking did the math. This sounds like a terrible deal. $500,000 over 30 years is $16,666 a year.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That's not even going to cover her shopping habit.

[Lauren Garoney]

And I know she'll get 100,000 if a boy is born. But like now I'm questioning what kind of wealth the McDougals have.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, I would be less offended by the $500,000 and more offended by the overt sexism of getting 100 grand for a boy and nothing for a girl.

[Lauren Garoney]

But clearly Bunny didn't protect the most important asset which would be Trey's apartment. This is also a setup for Miranda's storyline, which is there's a lawyer from the Chicago office visiting who is going to going on a date with Miranda that evening.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Not one of her more interesting suitors. As far as I'm concerned. This guy is kind of a flop.

[Lauren Garoney]

I've seen his face before. Is he in Whit Stillman films?

[Chelsea Fairless]

He looks like he could be.

[Lauren Garoney]

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[Chelsea Fairless]

I love Jenny Bix in these guys Defense.

[Lauren Garoney]

I imagine at this point in Samantha's little black book, she's getting to fairly obscure men she's had sex with. It would be a little random if someone you had sex with, I don't know, a year and a half ago called you to be like, hey, I'm really sick. Can you screw in this curtain rod?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. But a real man would say yes. She should honestly ask Miranda. Miranda's kind of butch, at least at this point in the show.

[Lauren Garoney]

Also, Miranda owns her apartment, just like Samantha. I would call Miranda for no other reason than Miranda probably has a handyman.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, Miranda can sort your shit out.

[Lauren Garoney]

So we go to Carrie's apartment where she's desperately trying to not fuck big. She says that she's done many things to keep herself busy until Aiden got back. She rearranged her sweaters, defrosted her fridge, filed every article she's ever written. What is defrosting your fridge?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I don't know. I've never done that. Is that something we should be doing? Also, she's wearing a really, really good Kelly green playsuit which is Albert El Baz era Yves Saint Laurent, which was really major and more people should talk about it.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, you're doing your part.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I am. I remember Chloe, 70, wearing a lot of that back in the day. But this was from a very, very good collection.

[Lauren Garoney]

And this is where we get the. I couldn't help but wonder.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

Since birth, modern women have been told we can do and be anything we want. Be an astronaut, the head of an Internet company, a stay at home mom. There aren't any rules anymore and the choices are endless. And apparently they can all be delivered right to your door. But is it possible that we've gotten so spoiled by choices that we've become unable to make one? That a part of us knows that once you choose something, one man, one great apartment, one amazing job, another option goes away? Are we a generation of women who can't choose just one from column A? Did we all have too much to handle or was Samantha right? Can we have it all?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay, I do think we all have too much to handle. And decision fatigue is real.

[Lauren Garoney]

The part of being spoiled by choices is oddly prescient about the future of online dating because that is many people's complaints. Is that why settle for this person when with Just a swipe of your finger, you can have access to dozens of other people. But I want to get into. What exactly is Carrie's version of having it all?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Polyamory. She gets both of them.

[Lauren Garoney]

That's what I was gonna say. Like, is her version of having it all. Like, man, can I have a boyfriend who fulfills all my emotional needs and an ongoing affair with my ex boyfriend who is now married? Also, she's talking about options. Big is not an option. He is married.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, as we find out later in this episode, he clearly is an option. I think this is kind of more about, like, the path not taken. With one choice comes the loss of another. Reality is what she's grappling with, and she can't decide. She can't figure out which one of these guys she wants to be with. Really, this kind of decision paralysis, this fatigue, this is what turns people into adult babies.

[Lauren Garoney]

No, I don't know what you mean. Please expand.

[Chelsea Fairless]

No, I'm just saying, like, babies don't make decisions. Being an adult is psychologically taxing because you have to make all these choices all the time and do all this adult stuff that just slowly, slowly chips away at you.

[Lauren Garoney]

Are you talking about infantilization, or are you talking about literally putting on an adult diaper? Getting a crib the size that can fit an adult human?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I'm talking about that because I think the psychology of that is rooted in not wanting to make decisions. Am I wrong? Can any adult babies weigh in?

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, my God, Please, we need to hear from the adult baby fuckette contingent. Well, speaking of Carrie being an adult baby, she cannot help herself and immediately calls Big. I don't know what Carrie is trying to do in this call.

[Chelsea Fairless]

On the surface, she's trying to manage a situation that is distressing her. Is there another motivation beneath that? Of course. Right?

[Lauren Garoney]

Because she's like, look, this can never happen again. We just gave in to our baser instincts. Shit happens. Blah, blah, blah. And then Big immediately interrupts her and is like, are you wearing glasses? You sound like you are wearing glasses. Which is one of the best non sequiturs.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Did we mention that she also relapsed with cigarettes? She pulled out her emergency pack, which.

[Lauren Garoney]

Are hidden in a pair of what.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Look like bowling shoes.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah, I was gonna say, like, 1940s bowling shoes.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I thought that was a fun choice. Just because. Yeah, that would be, like, the least frequently used pair of shoes in Carrie's closet.

[Lauren Garoney]

We also get a window into Big that we don't often get, which is he doesn't seem to regret cheating on his wife because Carrie's like, you're married. And he's like, I know that, but it was pretty fucking great, wasn't it?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. It doesn't seem like he's having the same internal struggle that Carrie is having. Seems like he's more just like fed up and annoyed about the situation that he's in and kind of over being married. He doesn't seem to feel remorse on any level or conflicted about it in any way. Yeah.

[Lauren Garoney]

Again, we're reading a lot into this, but we've watched this series like 17 times. It almost seems like from his perspective, he's justified in doing this with Carrie.

[Chelsea Fairless]

He thinks he's justified in doing it because the sparks, the chemistry, the Zaza zoo, whatever you want to call it, is just different with Carrie than it is with Natasha. And now he's gotten bored of Natasha.

[Lauren Garoney]

Bored of her and their beige life. This is where Carrie goes, we're intelligent beings. We have to learn to rise above the physical stuff. And Big goes, you can learn to do that. And then we immediately cut to them in Carrie's bed.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And Big's like, this is the last time we're doing this here. I can smell this guy on your sheets. Wood chips and Paco Rabanne. Maybe his pettiest, funniest and also gayest diss.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah, what did Paco Rabanne even smell like?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I mean, Paco Rabanne cologne still exists. As I understand it, it's quite popular, but I don't know if it's considered to be cheesy or low class or whatever.

[Lauren Garoney]

I have to say, I think another reason that we as an audience, because again, again, I know that that storyline was controversial and Sarah Jessica Parker has talked about it even recently about, you know, there was so much debate about whether Carrie should do this or not, but I don't know. As an audience member, watching two charismatic people with incredible chemistry behaving badly, I'm instantly on their side for sure.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But I think her conflict about it is probably stems from the fact that people are just less forgiving towards women when they do bad shit in movies and on television shows, whereas men get a total pass.

[Lauren Garoney]

As Samantha notes, this is where even Carrie is still in the bargaining stage because she's telling Big there's going to be no next time. She refers to this as this is going to be like the Bridges of Madison Avenue. A brief affair I'll write about to my grandchildren. To which big ass can I have a beard in the book version. I've always wanted a beard.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Mr. Big with a beard seems wrong. I mean, we know what Kris Knoth looks like.

[Lauren Garoney]

Carrie's bargain is that she will give him a goatee. It's clear from this. I couldn't help but wonder that she's not overtly referencing an affair. But as we rewatch these episodes, one of our favorite things to ponder is what exactly is going on in the column. And I do wonder, now that we've seen Carrie's journey as a writer, from having a column to books to now being a novelist, is this affair ever referenced anywhere?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I can't imagine that it could be. I think she just wrote a column that week about can women have it all?

[Lauren Garoney]

That's what I think as well. But I do wonder, like in Manhattan, is there a chapter about the big affair?

[Chelsea Fairless]

There should be.

[Lauren Garoney]

And do we think that this would be a page six item, like a gossip piece? Of course, because loose lips sink ships and there's no way that this didn't get out. Big time financier John James Preston.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, it would have come out to some degree when Big and Natasha got divorced.

[Lauren Garoney]

Right?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Which would have been a page six item.

[Lauren Garoney]

A little birdie tells me that a certain sex columnist was the reason for the split.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Only in New York, kids.

[Lauren Garoney]

So do we want to just condense Miranda's storyline?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Sure.

[Lauren Garoney]

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[Chelsea Fairless]

Like, in her house making out. And he's like, I have to go. It's like, wait, like, don't straights have sex for, like, 15 minutes? Like, he doesn't have 15 minutes.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, by Burger's definition, I think it means that this guy is just not that into you, Miranda. So he promises to call. He does call. The next night in Carrie Voiceover, we hear that this is one of Miranda's best dates. And then they start to have phone sex. There's a great interlude where Miranda's having phone sex with this guy. And then Charlotte calls to negotiate about the prenup. And Cynthia Nixon's acting like the physicalization where to differentiate her going from line to line, she's on the bed masturbating when she's talking to the guy. And then she'll, like. She shoots up and sits up when she's talking to Charlotte. It's.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It's so good. There's so much plot when it comes to Carrie and Charlotte's storylines in this episode. But really, like, Cynthia Nixon, Kim Cattrall are doing some of their finest comedic work in this episode.

[Lauren Garoney]

So we can wrap up Miranda's storyline because the phone sex comes to a brutal end. When they're dirty talking with some foreplay, he has to get on the other line. And when he comes back, he's like, I'm thrusted. I'm thrusting. She's like, no, no, we weren't there yet. And then she realizes, are you having phone sex with other people? And he does the like. Well, we never promised to be exclusive, which is very funny.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, also, simultaneous phone sex with two different people is hilarious.

[Lauren Garoney]

Okay, well, this is my question, which is, yes, for this to be true, he would have to simultaneously Be having phone sex with two people, but you don't get the impression he was. You get the impression that he got off the phone to take a new call.

[Chelsea Fairless]

No, he definitely was. He was further along in his phone sex with the other woman, which is why he was thrusting.

[Lauren Garoney]

Look, you maybe can be with a guy who is tandem having phone sex with two people, but you can't be with a guy who can't keep the narrative straight.

[Chelsea Fairless]

True. So back at Carrie's, she is wearing some pretty spectacular oshkosh b' gosh adjacent shortalls.

[Lauren Garoney]

I mean, this is a very upsetting outfit. I mean, they're both wearing upsetting outfits. This is the scene where Aiden comes back. So she looks like a little child.

[Chelsea Fairless]

She looks like an adult baby.

[Lauren Garoney]

I was gonna say it's like the movie Big. It's like Carrie's a 12 year old that was made into a 35 year old woman.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay. But the most disturbing part of this scene is that like two seconds before Aiden walks through the door is when she strips her bed. And in the voiceover she says that she had been sleeping in her and Big's sex sheets for two days. Which I think is way worse than the fact that she just fucked him.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, yeah, and also the fact that she's like. Like any good junkie. I knew how to hide the evidence. No, you didn't. You simply stripped the bed. As you probably heard Aiden parking on your street.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, if you hid the evidence, you would have washed the sheets and made the bed again. And you know, those sheets are fucking nasty. Like, you know, if they brought some luminol in there, that shit would light up like a Jackson Pollock. With the sex they've been having.

[Lauren Garoney]

What are they like Angelina Jolie and her first boyfriend? Lumenol is to see blood. You think they'd see lube as well?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, I think it can see semen.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, shit.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Or at least it does on svu.

[Lauren Garoney]

You would know. Oh, that's right, because Carrie's preferred form of birth control is a diaphragm. So he's. He's definitely.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Also, is Pete gonna go sniffing around there like she just threw them on the floor of her apartment?

[Lauren Garoney]

I know, but I immediately forget about the logic of all of that stuff because Aiden comes through the door and Chelsea, he's wearing leather pants. He's wearing leather pants and a denim shirt and I don't know, that's not a lifestyle that I live. But are leather pants comfortable to wear on a road trip?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Leather pants on a man? Are A really, really hard thing.

[Lauren Garoney]

Unless you're Lenny Kravitz.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Unless you're Lenny Kravitz. I mean, Alexander Skarsgard recently has been looking amazing in leather pants. Like, it is possible to look major in leather pants. When else have leather pants been cool on men?

[Lauren Garoney]

You know, this is my thing is there was an era from like 2012 to 2017 where it seemed like every stylist for a men's magazine was just handing celebrities leather pants. Like Chris Pine, Michael Fassbender. I always thought if I worked in pr, I would tell young actors, if a stylist on a magazine shoot hands you leather pants, don't take them.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Most celebrities shouldn't wear leather full stop.

[Lauren Garoney]

For Peter reasons or for aesthetic reasons or both.

[Chelsea Fairless]

No, I mean, didn't Amy Schumer have a whole comedy special about this? About how like stand up comedians, like, wear bad leather outfits in their specials that age really poorly?

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, well, the leather special, which is a reference to Eddie Murphy's first special where he wore an all leather suit.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yes, exactly.

[Lauren Garoney]

We're really burying the lead of this scene. The gauntlet is thrown down not because Aiden's wearing leather pants, because he tells Carrie he loves her. Dun dun, dun.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And she's like, I felt so awful and so good. Girl, you shouldn't feel good at all. You should feel nothing but intense self hatred.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention that in Carrie voiceover before Aiden says, I love you. He goes, look at you. And she says, I was sure he saw the scarlet A on my chest. If Big could smell him, could he smell Big on me? And because he can't or doesn't, I feel like this show is sanctioning Carrie's cheating because Aiden can't. What? Sense Big's presence in Carrie's apartment. Like, hey, I'm getting a sense that that guy that I met a week or two ago at the furniture show that you said was your friend, like fucked you raw in your bed for the last two days.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Is that.

[Lauren Garoney]

No. But instead he says, I love you. And Carrie immediately says, I love you back.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, she'd have to.

[Lauren Garoney]

Do you think she means it?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I think she does mean it. If she didn't mean it, she wouldn't have continued this for as long as she did. She's still fucking hemming in just like that.

[Lauren Garoney]

So he picks her up. If you've got a size kink, this scene is for you. Because he's so tall and she's so tiny.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I definitely don't have one of those.

[Lauren Garoney]

He plops her on the bed. And she goes, what about the sheets? And he goes, fuck the sheets.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I don't know. It grosses me out. I'm grossed out when she has sex with Aiden, like, during the big thing for some reason.

[Lauren Garoney]

I mean, I just hope that there's a mattress protector on that mattress. Knowing Carrie, there probably isn't.

[Chelsea Fairless]

No. And you know what? That mattress would be fucked. Real talk. She would have had the same mattress for, like, the past 10 years. And no, she would never have a mattress protector. That's like a Miranda Charlotte kind of thing.

[Lauren Garoney]

Absolutely. Sorry. I'm just imagining an alternate brunch scene where Carrie has to get a new mattress and they all reveal that they have mattress protectors. Like that scene from the following season when they all reveal that they have savings accounts. And she's like, wait, what? We're saving money. No one told me this.

[Chelsea Fairless]

So now we get the Samantha Carey Fanta and cough syrup scene. So funny. Whoever did the whole prop styling for this is a genius because there's, like, several bottles of Fanta and cough syrup strewn about.

[Lauren Garoney]

I'm realizing that I fucked up because, like, Samantha's mother's secret flu remedy, I should have blitzed up the electrolytes with some ice and made electrolyte froze of some kind for you.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I love that Samantha's childhood remedy is just like, scissorp, essentially, or lean, whatever you want to call it. Like, she is getting fucked up.

[Lauren Garoney]

Kim Cattrall is brilliant in this scene. We don't get a lot of Samantha being pathetic. Kim Cattrall does a lot with Samantha and, like, different avenues, but we don't get, like, whiny Samantha.

[Chelsea Fairless]

True, we get pissed off Samantha a lot. And this is a combination of, like, pissed off Samantha and down in the dumps Samantha. Kim Cattrall is at the height of her comedic powers.

[Lauren Garoney]

Truly just the way that she says, give me my drink. And Carrie's like, you know, a frosted martini glass would make this more appetizing.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Girl, that was on you.

[Lauren Garoney]

Also, Carrie is smoking around her friend who's deathly ill. And Samantha is truly down in the dumps because she's questioning everything. I should have gotten married. Then at least I'd have a curtain that closes. Oh, Carrie. It doesn't matter how much you have. If you don't have a guy who cares about you, it all means shit.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

Oh, sweetie, calm down. Three days of sleep deprivation had turned Samantha into. Into a whole new woman. Charlotte. For someone who had it all, she had never felt more alone.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, good Girl.

[Lauren Garoney]

Okay, I'm gonna tell you something. There's two types of guys out there. The ones that hold your hands and the ones that fuck you.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

And I'd slept with both of them in the last 48 hours.

[Lauren Garoney]

And the guys that fuck you up were three to death. We're all alone, Carrie.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

Oh, we are not all alone. We have each other.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes, Carrie and Samantha. You have each other until, you know. Carrie decides to stop paying Samantha's monthly publicist rate, even though Carrie's husband's net worth is probably in the hundreds of millions. And Samantha gets so butthurt that she has to move to London.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I really relate to Samantha's vibe here.

[Lauren Garoney]

I know you do.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I just.

[Lauren Garoney]

This was you 48 hours ago.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Truly. So it's Trey and Charlotte's engagement party. Samantha and Carrie and Miranda arrive in these, like, very colorful outfits. Miranda's in blue, Carrie's in green, Samantha's in red. And in my, like, illness delirium, I was like, what the fuck does this remind me of? And I was like, oh, they look like the fairy godmothers from Sleeping Beauty. Beauty. Like, that is the color scheme of, like, flora and fauna. And I forget the name of the.

[Lauren Garoney]

Last one you texted me, and you were like, I've had a startling revelation. And then you sent these two images, and I was like, girl, go to sleep.

[Chelsea Fairless]

We also need to talk about Carrie's hair in this scene, which is really unique. It's a hairstyle she never attempted again. I really lack the vocabulary to do it justice, but it's like two giant buns. It feels vaguely hocus pocus adjacent, but a little bit.

[Lauren Garoney]

It's sort of Carrie Fisher as Princess Leia, but asymmetrical in, like, a Bjork kind of way. Yes, that also, I would love to have seen what the reference image was for this hair.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. Where did that come from? The girls are instantly horrified by the crowd. And we kind of understand the costuming choice of the three girls when they get there because everyone. Everyone else is in beige and pastels and things of that nature.

[Lauren Garoney]

And headbands.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And headbands. They're instantly, like, grossed out. Like, who are these nasty yuppies? Charlotte walks up wearing a very significant Donna Karan dress. Do you remember this at all?

[Lauren Garoney]

No.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It was, like a blue chiffon watercolor print. I remember Esther Kenyatis wore it in the ad campaign and on the Runway. I think it also, like, was worn with, like, matching, like, blue panties kind of vibe.

[Lauren Garoney]

Samantha wonders where the food is. And this is where Miranda reminds her that they're WASPs, so there's no food, only booze. And Samantha's like, fine, I'll have a martini, six olives. Which I think is so funny.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Charlotte is, of course, spiraling because she hasn't signed the prenup.

[Lauren Garoney]

Right. She explains, I don't know. I'm confused. I love him, but I feel like no one cares about me. I thought if we could negotiate, it'd be okay, but now it all feels wrong. We should say in the Miranda scene where she's masturbating and talking to Charlotte. Charlotte tells her that Bunny won't negotiate and move off of the $500,000 number.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Again, I would be more concerned by the discrepancy in money for boys versus girls.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, they ask her, what does Trey say about this? And she goes, nothing. He leaves it to his mother, which I'm like, red flag. Red flag.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, guys that go from like one mommy to another. Gross.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, mommy wives. I love how Carrie is self pitying in her voiceover because Charlotte wants advice and they're like, we can't give you advice. And then Carrie in her head is like, I wasn't one to talk about marriage, considering I might break one up.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yep. And that she did.

[Lauren Garoney]

So then we have this Bunny and Charlotte showdown.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It's crazy how much is packed into this episode. The fact that we get Big Aiden and a major Bunny McDougal scene.

[Lauren Garoney]

Wow. So Charlotte basically leverages the fact that it would be an embarrassment for the McDougal family to cancel the wedding so close to the wedding because of this prenup, which I know many people who have done this same exact move to get around a prenup. Although Charlotte's not even not wanting to sign a prenup. She just wants her million dollars over.

[Chelsea Fairless]

30 years, which still doesn't seem that.

[Lauren Garoney]

Good, which again, means $32,000 a year. It would have made more sense if she bullied Bunny into not signing a prenup because again, I've known people who have waited until the day of the wedding and been like, well, be unfortunate to send everyone home since we paid all this money and they've gotten out of signing prenups.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Wow, that's iconic.

[Lauren Garoney]

So Charlotte wins, and there's this voiceover of the girls. Sleeping beauties. What are they? Fairies? Godmothers?

[Chelsea Fairless]

The fairy godmothers.

[Lauren Garoney]

The three fairy godmothers walking along 72nd street or whatever. And in Carrie's voiceover, she says, it was then that we realized that we didn't have it all as we no longer had Charlotte. And then there was three.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Aww.

[Lauren Garoney]

Marriage really is treated as a death in this show.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, it does push Charlotte into another kind of existence where she kind of never fully rejoins them.

[Lauren Garoney]

That is true. I mean, I think there's something about her marrying into a different status.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, exactly it. Because from this point on, Psych, she didn't have to work until. And just like that.

[Lauren Garoney]

Which was by choice.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. And no one else. I mean, I guess Carrie could do that, you know, once she locks it down with Mr. Big, but that's just not who she is.

[Lauren Garoney]

So I forgot that there's a whole coda on this episode about Big showing up, Carrie losing Pete, the reign sequence. This scene always surprises me and I always think it's in a different episode. Cause, like, that's such a natural ending point. The three girls walking and saying, you know, we don't have it all. We lost Charlotte. So Big calls Carrie, pretends it's Miranda or Charlotte. This is classic addict behavior. Like, we haven't really gotten into seeded through this entire episode. A lot of addict language and addict behavior, for sure.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And also, she has relapsed with her nicotine addiction and her Mr. Big addiction.

[Lauren Garoney]

So Big is like, I am outside your door and if you don't come down, I will come up. And so she lies to Aiden, or. Well, she doesn't overtly lie to Aiden, but she offers to walk Pete.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And she goes downstairs, she sees him, she's pissed. We can tell that he's unstable because of the costuming choice in this scene. He's wearing like a palm print button down shirt. He's wearing khakis. He's wearing some sort of sandal where you can see his toes. Like, we've literally never seen him dressed like this. This before.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah, he's dressed like Charlie Sheen in Two and a Half Men. Like, we never get a casual big.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Ensemble, which is clearly a cry for help.

[Lauren Garoney]

I know that this is beside the point, but did you clock that this is a different Carrie exterior? No, this is clearly not the Perry street exterior. Which I was like, oh, has that not been established yet? And I'm like, oh, no, it definitely has. I assume because of the physicality of what happens in the following scene, they needed a particular location. And I'm sure they're like, no one will notice. No one will be able to pause and zoom in on these minute details.

[Chelsea Fairless]

They immediately get into it.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

You know what your problem is?

[Chelsea Fairless]

You want it all.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

You want the girl. You screw me and the girl you go home to her.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That's.

[Lauren Garoney]

I just want you. I can't do this anymore. Sleep with two people at the same time. I'm gonna tell her tonight.

[Chelsea Fairless]

What?

[Lauren Garoney]

No, no, no.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

Married men don't just leave their way. I have a man who loves me, and you have a wife who loves you.

[Lauren Garoney]

Don't talk about him and her like it's you and me.

[Carrie Bradshaw (Character)]

You have no right to do this. You can't just come back into my.

[Lauren Garoney]

Life and fuck it all up. Well, I think there were two people doing the Here, Carrie.

[Chelsea Fairless]

What a prick. I don't love his vibes.

[Lauren Garoney]

What resonates with me is when he says, don't talk about him and her like it's you and me. Which is. Yeah, it's such a dickish thing.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It's very revealing because we haven't really had an understanding about how Big feels about all of this. And we've kind of assumed, like, oh, he must have something incredible with Natasha. But this reveals that maybe he doesn't.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, yeah. And that he regards him and Carrie above his relationship with his own wife. Like, it's one thing for him to downgrade or shit on Aiden. That's just Carrie's relatively new boyfriend. But to be like, what you and I have is nothing compared to what my wife and I have is basically what he's saying in this statement is like, holy shit.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, he went there.

[Lauren Garoney]

So Pete runs off Sarah Jessica Parker. We haven't gotten into her outfit.

[Chelsea Fairless]

She looks great. She's wearing mules and, like, a little pair of micro shorts and some sort of sheer, sort of blousy top with a colored bra.

[Lauren Garoney]

And she is running after this dog. And everyone discusses Tom Cruise's ability to run in film. But I don't think we give Sarah Desca Parker her due for running in heels.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, absolutely not.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, I guess Big isn't a total piece of shit because he does, in a way, run after the dog as well. Or maybe he's just running after Carrie because she's almost getting hit by taxi cabs.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, you're right. The running is really impressive.

[Lauren Garoney]

She's running for blocks and blocks. That's why I think the apartment exterior is different. Because they needed these streets to be able to have her running from block to block.

[Chelsea Fairless]

So she loses Pete, but apparently spends three hours wandering the streets of New.

[Lauren Garoney]

York in the rain.

[Chelsea Fairless]

When she comes back, she looks like, I don't know, something between a drowned Chihuahua and a Margaret Keene painting.

[Lauren Garoney]

In the voiceover, Carrie's like, I gotta confess. She's like, I had a man who loved me and a man who wanted to leave his wife for me. I should have been on top of the world, but I didn't feel like I had it all. Okay, that is not a girl's girls statement. Carrie is not a girl's girl. She's aligning that having it all is like, I not only have a great boyfriend, I have a married ex who wants to leave his wife for me. And I still feel like shit. It's like, you should feel like shit.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, she does feel like shit. And now the way she feels is reflected in the way she looks.

[Lauren Garoney]

So she comes back, she's going to confess the affair to Aiden. Pete presumably has been hit by a taxi cab at this point. But oh no, Pete is there.

[Chelsea Fairless]

What is this homeward bound shit? What do you mean Pete is there? I think we accepted that way too easily.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah, I mean, Pete is so comfortable with Kerry's apartment that he finds his way back to it.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Like, I've spent decades going to the West Village and I still get lost. The streets down there make no sense. Shit went haywire.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, we have to remember that Carrie lives on the Upper east side.

[Chelsea Fairless]

So it's like, okay, okay, okay.

[Lauren Garoney]

I know, but if we're using the Sex and the City logic, Pete is lost in Central Park. A tourist has claimed Pete as their own.

[Chelsea Fairless]

What really gets me about this scene is the way that Pete clocked the fuck out of her cheating ass the second she walked in.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, yeah, the fact that he won't go to her. Her?

[Chelsea Fairless]

No, he looks at her with such judgment. It's incredible. It's some of the best animal acting I've ever seen. Or perhaps editing.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah. I was thinking there's a dog in Anatomy of a Fall, right?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Of course.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes.

[Chelsea Fairless]

What do you mean there's a dog? Yes, there's a dog.

[Lauren Garoney]

I was gonna say some of the best dog acting since Anatomy of a Fall.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, he's like, I know you've been fucking him. I was there on the street. I smell these dirty sheets which are still on your floor.

[Lauren Garoney]

These come stage sheets. I know my owners come and I know there's a different stop. Has that happened on svu that there's like a semen smelling dog? Because I just want.

[Chelsea Fairless]

No, there's a first time for everything.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, I just watched the Ben Affleck Matt Damon film the Rip. And you think that it's a drug sniffing dog, but really it's a money smelling dog. Oh, wow. And the dog alerts them that there's a bunch of money in a wall. Anyway, we're also not getting into the fact that I'm sorry if Aiden's not angry enough. Like, if your dog appeared without your girlfriend and it's pouring rain out, I'd be like, oh, my God, My girlfriend was kidnapped.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Lauren Garoney]

I mean, this is pre. Everyone having a cell phone. And certainly Carrie was a late adopter of cell phones. But, like, he should be screaming at her that. It's like, I called the police. I have called hospitals.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, no, it's true. Especially when it started to rain. He's like, I know what outfit she's out there in.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, also, it's clear that he didn't go after Pete or her because he's still wearing the leather pants.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay, but what, Did Pete ring the doorbell, or did Pete just sit on the stoop until one of their neighbors came and then walk up the stairs and, like, make little noises in front of the door? Release the footage.

[Lauren Garoney]

You know, Aiden and Pete have a. Have a special relationship. No, Aiden doesn't yell at her. Instead, he gets a towel because clearly she is close to hypothermia and is, like, very calmly, he's like, I gotta ask you a question. I don't want to be paranoid. You took Pete for a walk. We both know you're not a big fan of the dog walking. I can smell something. Are you cheating? And then you're like, holy wow. Everything I thought about Aiden being a chump or a cuck, I take back. He can tell that Carrie's cheated. And then he's like, I could smell the smoke on you. You're smoking again, aren't you?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Does he think that she smoked, like, an entire carton of cigarettes in those three hours in the rain? If she's gone for that long, she's probably smoking crystal meth.

[Lauren Garoney]

But it gives Carrie the opportunity to admit that she's cheating without admitting that she's cheating. Yeah. Yeah, I am. And then in her vo, she's like, well, it was the truth. It's like, okay, you got him on a technicality, Carrie. And then Aiden asks, are you gonna quit? And she goes, I really want to. And then in her VO, she goes, that was true, too, but guess what?

[Chelsea Fairless]

She did it.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah. Spoiler alert. She's not going to. All right, exit survey. Who is the MVP of this episode?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay, well, first and foremost, Manolo rating. Oh, we know what it is. This is a 10 Manolo episode.

[Lauren Garoney]

It's a 10 out of 10. Manolo episode.

[Chelsea Fairless]

One of the greats. MVP. It's a really tough one for me. It's a tie between Carrie and Samantha. It's some of SJP's best dramatic work, but also some of Kim Cattrall's best comedic work.

[Lauren Garoney]

See, I was gonna say, I'm thinking about it from the character perspective. I would say it's between Charlotte or Samantha for me, because Charlotte stood up for herself. She asked for her worth, although still undervaluing herself. But Samantha really went through it. You know, she confronted her worst fear, that perhaps she does need a man. And then she got through that.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, I do think that one of the greatest parts in this episode, which we didn't even talk about, is the part where she grabs a bottle of Dom and hangs out the window of her new apartment and screams. You hear that? New York. We have it all. Like that is one of the best moments for the character.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, yeah. And then some random person on the street goes, fuck you. And she goes, you wish.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Who are you voting off the island of Manhattan?

[Lauren Garoney]

I struggled with this because kind of no one, but I guess the guy who cheated on Miranda during phone sex, but he's already back in Chicago.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Wait, what do you mean I'm voting off Mr. Big? His vibes were atrocious.

[Lauren Garoney]

I don't know. He's just so charismatic that he's got me. I. I approve of their bad behavior. Who is best dressed?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Carrie.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes, but specifically for me. Carrie's 1950s. Is it Chartreuse? Is it like a lime sorbet colored chiffon dress that she wears to Charlotte's engagement party?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, it's like a celery color kind of.

[Lauren Garoney]

But I am also partial to Big in his depression. Palm print shirt and khakis for sure.

[Chelsea Fairless]

This is one of my all time favorite Mr. Big outfits. Who are you in the episode? Obviously I'm Samantha.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yes. Perhaps this may be paradoxical because I've given Cari so much, but I relate to Cari. I think her getting essentially what she wanted and not being satisfied is something that we've all experienced. I've certainly experienced. I've not done the things that Carrie has done in this episode, but I do relate to her a lot.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Best line, wood chips and Paco Rabanne.

[Lauren Garoney]

Oh, for me, it's a toss up between trays. It'll look lovely under the ramen. We'll have to eat due to my outstanding loans. And Miranda saying at Charlotte's engagement party, it looks like Martha Stewart exploded in here.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Biggest trigger.

[Lauren Garoney]

I saved my opinions about Carrie's. Hair at the engagement party for this trigger warning. Because there was always this rumor that, like, the girls actually do their own hair on the show. Or there was this thought that, like, Sarah Jessica Parker. I remember reading this. Sarah Jessica Parker had a thing where it's like, the hairstyles on the show have to be hairstyles that the girls can actually do. And this Carrie hairstyle is, like, in what fucking world?

[Chelsea Fairless]

True.

[Lauren Garoney]

If she went into a dry bar and asked for this, it would cause the dry bar hairstylist to have a.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Nervous breakdown and it would look really, really bad. My trigger is honestly probably the WASPy party, which would also make me feel deeply uncomfortable. That and Carrie not bothering to wash her sheets.

[Lauren Garoney]

Yeah, that was pretty gross. Okay, what is your hottest take?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Carrie called Big because she wanted to fuck him again. Yeah, that's it. She knew what she was doing.

[Lauren Garoney]

Well, we went over this. She doesn't particularly have an agenda.

[Chelsea Fairless]

She has a surface agenda to be.

[Lauren Garoney]

Like, we're never doing this again. By the way, he's not blowing up her phone.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Look, if you fuck your married ex, I would kind of want to have a conversation that just solidifies we're never doing this again and we're not telling anyone. Because I think to not have that conversation would make me really anxious.

[Lauren Garoney]

Sure. Okay. My hottest take is Aiden should have broken up with Carrie when she not only lost his dog, disappeared for hours on end, but he realized that she broke her promise to him, which is that she wasn't going to smoke, which seemed like a big fucking deal to him.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, now he's in love with her, so.

[Lauren Garoney]

And I'm sorry, he is a bit of a chump to not connect the dots at any point during this cheating arc of, like, Carrie's behaving very oddly in a way that I haven't known her to behave before. There was that guy we met at the furniture show that she claims is a friend or someone from the past. Like, hey, I wonder if something's going on. Also, I think that Charlotte should have left Trey at the altar. But this isn't germane to this episode. And that does it for this month's Sex and the City episode. Rewatch. What thing will happen in our life next month that will inspire that month's rewatch episode?

[Chelsea Fairless]

We shall see.

[Lauren Garoney]

Paul gives me a cardboard baby. I'm like, chelsea, you won't believe what happened.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I do really want to do that episode, though, so maybe we should just commit to that.

[Lauren Garoney]

All right, I'm in.

[Chelsea Fairless]

All right, guys. You know what to expect next month. Thank you for listening as always.

[Lauren Garoney]

And we'll be back next week. Bye. Bye.

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