Every Outfit Podcast Episode 268 Summary:

On Meryl and Anna, The Drama, The AJLT Auction
Date: April 10, 2026
Hosts: Chelsea Fairless & Lauren Garroni

Episode Overview

In this episode, Chelsea and Lauren dive deep into three main topics dear to fans of fashion and pop culture:

1. The wild, extensive And Just Like That (AJLT) prop and costume auction and what it says about the show’s production—and fandom.
2. The media and cultural moment of Anna Wintour and Meryl Streep sharing the cover of Vogue and what it means for The Devil Wears Prada sequel, high fashion, and Anna’s legacy.
3. A spoiler-annotated discussion (at episode's end) of the new film "The Drama," starring Zendaya and Robert Pattinson, including its shocking twist, social commentary, and reception.

Along the way, expect the signature “best friends who know too much” banter, hyper-specific fashion commentary, and irreverent detours into Gen X music beefs and surprising takes on branded movie tie-ins.

SEGMENT 1: The AJLT Auction Deep Dive

Starts at ~01:24

Key Discussion Points

• Julien’s Auction Madness:
  The hosts dissect the sheer breadth and depth of the AJLT prop and costume auction, marveling at the obsessive detail in even the most minor, unseen items.

• Auction Mechanics & Bidding Psychology:

  • Lauren confesses confusion about how live auctions work; prefers to sort items by lowest bid.
  • Chelsea explains it’s “literally no different than eBay, except for a live component at the end.” (02:26)

• Most Coveted Lots:

  • Highest bids are for wearable items: e.g., Anthony Marantino’s Louis Vuitton bag and Mr. Big’s Rolex watch, already far above their estimates (03:00–03:26).

• Attention to Tiny Details:

  • Lauren admits: “I almost, almost feel bad for my end. Just like that commentary. Because when you start to look through these lots ... the amount of thought that was put into shit we never see—like Steve Brady's Scout To Go bags ...” (04:36)

• The Esoteric and the Bizarre:

  • “Did we ever see a Scout To Go bag?” (04:57)
  • “...the shelves that lined Carrie’s closet—her old apartment. … this auction might as well be called everything that Sarah Jessica Parker declined to keep.” (05:37)
  • “Not one, not two, not three, not four, but five prop copies of Carrie’s widow memoir, Loved and Lost.” (06:06)

• Props Even Hardcore Fans Missed:

  • Carrie’s chocolate and popcorn boxes, Gramercy apartment built-in hamper, Lily’s purse contents, Joy’s stuffed stand-in dogs, Richard Burton’s bed and “poo bag holder” (07:03, 08:03).
  • “You know who this sale is for? ... Anyone who looked at LTW’s closet and her costumes and thought, I would love to own some of that...” (08:47)

• “Mr. Big's Death” Lots:

  • Shower knobs from where Big died, water bottle, funeral memorabilia, his will and testament, and associated props.
  • “Whoever buys that is a sick fuck and should just be automatically arrested if they win.” — Chelsea (10:07)

• Who Gets to Keep What:

  • Sarah Jessica Parker (Carrie) kept all major costumes; “this auction might as well be called everything SJP declined to keep.” (05:37)
  • Kristen Davis (Charlotte), Cynthia Nixon (Miranda), John Corbett (Aidan) also took many wardrobe pieces, leaving fans to bid on more random or “cursed” items.

• Charity & The Good Cause:

  • All proceeds go to "You Gotta Believe," supporting foster teens; “the money is not going to HBO Max overlords.” (17:42)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “The most shocking item being the knobs from the shower where he died ... which also includes his peloton water bottle.” — Lauren (09:40)
• “If any of our listeners win anything, please tell us about it.” (22:41)
• “Carrie Bradshaw’s shoeboxes are one of the better things you can buy. … It’s not that expensive.” (23:14)

Fun Finds & Absurdities

• LTW’s teal Bottega Veneta fur cape (“one of the best pieces in the sale”—Chelsea, 09:08)
• Che Diaz memorabilia lot ("Che Pasa" scripts and chair backs, non-binary notebook, $500 already—16:06–16:45)
• Aidan's Apples to Apples game and tackle box ("I’d pay not to own it." — Chelsea, 14:53)
• The “Love, Samantha” funeral flower card; Carrie’s “X, Y and Me” mug ("I think that I need for our future office ... an X, Y and Me mug." — Lauren, 19:09)
• The entire Hot Fellas bakery set — “How illegal is it for us to start our own Hot Fellas Pop Up?” (18:14)

SEGMENT 2: Anna Wintour x Meryl Streep Vogue Cover & Devil Wears Prada Sequel

Starts at ~25:29

Key Discussion Points

• Historic Vogue Cover:

  • Anna Wintour appears for the first time on a Vogue cover, sharing the moment with Meryl Streep.
  • “This is also the first time in the last three years that the May issue hasn't been dedicated to the upcoming Met Gala theme.” (25:31)

• Iconic/Queer Imagery:

  • Chelsea: “There is a lot of lesbian subtext in this image. ... Anna is like her femme girlfriend who’s gazing at her adorably, wearing a girly dress.” (25:42, 26:18)

• Cover Production & Editorial Choices:

  • Photographed by Annie Leibovitz, styled by Grace Coddington; this is the “A-team.”
  • “This is the third time Meryl Streep has been on the cover of Vogue. Annie Leibovitz has shot her every single time. ... Can you imagine if Tim Walker had shot this?” (29:55–30:26)

• Anna’s Changing Relationship with Devil Wears Prada:

  • Debate over whether Anna is leveraging the film’s legacy or genuinely embracing its connection to her.
  • “For Anna Wintour to now be like, and it was based on me, and look how cool I am about it…” (28:45)
  • “...having Anna Wintour on the cover of Vogue, it tells us that it's still Anna's magazine but it's not Anna's magazine, because it's never a decision that I imagine she would have come to on her own unless she hadn't been pressured into it.” — Chelsea (29:21)

Devil Wears Prada 2 Pre-Release Rollout

• Trailer Talk:

  • Third and final trailer still leaves the plot vague; speculation about the “scandal” that brings Anne Hathaway’s character back into Miranda’s orbit (32:55–33:48).

• Brand Collaborations Galore:

  • Massive Target and Old Navy collections; the hosts agree Old Navy did a (comparatively) better job.
  • “The Target collection is nearly 200 pieces ... It has a strong Zazzle, Red Bubble kind of vibe about it. Visually, it’s very upsetting.” — Chelsea (34:57–35:17)
  • “The Old Navy collaboration actually makes a cerulean blue sweater. … Target ... not on a cerulean blue shirt. No, it is not. That's crazy. That's absolutely insane.” (35:43–36:05)

• Iconic Quotes Gone Awry:

  • “That's All” hats, “Florals? Groundbreaking” shirts, and even a shirt that reads, “Did someone eat an onion bagel?” (37:19).
  • Diet Coke and Starbucks collabs; Tweezerman tweezers; Grey Goose cocktails (“Cerulean Goose” is not blue).
  • “If we're going to do these collabs, can't we just do something fun? ... a little Devil Wears Prada red high heel coffee stopper?” — Chelsea (41:43)

• Meta-Commentary:

  • Disappointment with the sheer volume and cringiness of tie-ins and licensed merch.
  • “...this used to be a formula for a-list actors, right? You would do the mainstream film, then you would do the indie film. … but it's amazing to see them put their names to a film like this.” — Lauren (82:45)

SEGMENT 3: Gen X Authenticity Drama—Courtney Love, Billy Corgan, Kim Gordon & Pavement

Starts at ~45:35

Key Discussion Points

• Courtney Love on Billy Corgan’s Podcast:

  • The hosts marvel at the messy, occasionally incomprehensible, but deeply candid Gen X nostalgia and rock-scene drama on display.

• Kim Gordon Beef:

  • Courtney and Billy trade stories about Gordon’s memoir, Girl in a Band, and her “tarantula” insult toward Courtney.
  • Kim Gordon’s role as a “gatekeeper,” judgment of other bands/artists, and her harsh commentary on Lana Del Rey.
  • “Kim Gordon describes ... Courtney asked for advice about her secret affair with Billy Corgan. [Kim] thought, ‘Ew…’—no one liked Billy, ... he was such a crybaby.” (48:48)

• Selling Out & Authenticity:

  • Riffs about authenticity, indie-vs-mainstream music, Sonic Youth’s “selling out” (Goo/Dirty era), and the evolving Gen X notion of being “cool.”
  • “I just am obsessed with Gen X’s continued obsession with authenticity. As if all of them didn’t sell out.” — Lauren (54:19)
  • The impact of Moby licensing every track from the Play album to commercials, cited as “the death of cool.” (57:38–58:26)

• Fun Tangents:

  • Billy Corgan and Bill Burr’s unlikely “Are We Brothers?” podcast moment.
  • Ben Lee’s claim that Moby killed “cool” forever, which Chelsea and Lauren poke fun at wryly.

SEGMENT 4: Film Review: "The Drama" (with and without spoilers)

Starts at ~63:04 (non-spoiler)/~65:07 (spoiler warning given)

Non-Spoiler Highlights

• Critical Praise:

  • “I loved it, easily one of my favorite movies of the year.” — Lauren (63:04)
  • “Yay for Norway.” — Chelsea (63:12)
  • Both praise Christopher Borgli (writer-director of "Dream Scenario" and "Sick of Myself").

• Genre & Tone:

  • It's a “wedding from hell” black comedy, tackles moral dilemmas and “what’s the worst thing you’ve ever done.”

• Date-Movie Potential:

  • “I think it's a fun date film cause it will spark a debate…” (63:12)

Spoilers Begin

SPOILER WARNING is announced at 65:07

The Big “Twist” and Moral Quagmire

• Zendaya’s Character’s Secret:
  • Confesses to planning (but not executing) a school shooting as a teen.
  • “It’s a thought crime at its worst.” (65:35)
• Alana Haim’s Character’s Secret:
  • Locked a disabled neighborhood boy in a trailer and lied about it; “To me, this is worse, because there is a victim.” (66:43)

Reactions, Commentary & Themes

• Ethics & Social Media:

  • Movie prompts debate: Should you be judged by the worst thing you ever considered, or did, as a kid?
  • “...it poses a really interesting question, which is, should we be defined by the worst thing that we've ever done or do we actually believe in forgiveness, rehabilitation, and growth?” — Chelsea (76:32)

• Americanness & Aesthetic of Violence:

  • Hosts believe movie accurately captures the fascination with “the aesthetics of being a school shooter”—without being exploitative or glorifying.

• Cancel Culture & Online Morality:

  • “I think this film is an interesting commentary about how online purity testing and cancel culture has filtered its way from reacting to strangers online to how we react to people ... in our real life.” — Lauren (71:51, 73:04)

• Performance Praise:

  • “I've seen Zendaya in a lot of movies ... I thought she was incredible in this film. This is the best to me she’s ever been.” — Lauren (83:33)
  • “I think she was great. I don’t think there were any weak links in this movie at all…” — Chelsea (83:49)

Notable Quotes

• “...Alana Heim is the true villain of this movie.” (65:53)
• “Should you be judged on the worst thing you did, basically as a child? ... It's not being treated as the same thing of like, you were just a child, your mind had not fully developed.” (75:45–76:32)
• “One of the funniest scenes in the movie is that scene with Anna Baryshnikov and Robert Pattinson. Robert Pattinson, who was so good in this, might I just say.” (73:50)

Audience Reactions & Broader Takeaways

• Chelsea: "My theater was losing their mind in a good way. They were audibly gasping, like they were shocked at certain parts, which was so cool." (81:35)
• The film is “the right amount of stakes ... fun to see people genuinely shocked by something,” especially in a “mainstream movie with these huge movie stars.” (82:28)
• “...they obviously have good taste and liked the script, but it is not the sort of film that I would expect to have packed audiences in the theater for.” — Chelsea (82:45)

HIGHLIGHTED TIMESTAMPS (selected)

• AJLT Auction deep dive: 01:24–24:00
• Meryl & Anna Vogue cover & DWP2 rollout: 25:29–44:10
• Gen X music drama: 45:35–62:58
• “The Drama” Film (non-spoiler): 63:04–65:07
• SPOILERS: “The Drama” full discussion: 65:07–end

MEMORABLE QUOTES

• “They put more thought and care into the most minute details of And Just Like That than you could have ever imagined, you snarky fucking podcasters.” — Lauren (04:22)
• “Carrie Bradshaw’s acrylic stiletto bookends ... not one, not two, not three, not four, but five prop copies of Carrie’s memoir.” — Lauren (06:04)
• “Whoever buys [Mr. Big’s shower knobs and Peloton water bottle] is a sick fuck and should just be automatically arrested if they win.” — Chelsea (10:07)
• “There is a lot of lesbian subtext in this image ... Anna is like her femme girlfriend … (Vogue cover)” — Chelsea (26:01)
• “It’s a thought crime at its worst.” — Lauren (65:35, re: Zendaya’s character’s twist in "The Drama")

FINAL NOTES

• The hosts will be attending a preview of the AJLT auction “on Lauren’s birthday,” and vow to report back with more discoveries and possibly winning bids. (19:44)
• They encourage listeners to share their auction wins and donate to their “archive.” (22:41)
• More deep dives on the auction and “Devil Wears Prada 2” to come as premiere approaches.

For New or Casual Listeners

This episode is a quintessential “Every Outfit” experience: witty, self-aware, and deeply obsessed with the sacred and the profane of pop culture and fashion, offering a blend of humor, insight, and genuine fandom that will make even non-SATC viewers and fashion civilians laugh, think, and maybe start an eBay search for a Gramercy apartment built-in hamper.