278: On Sex and the City: The Drought

Summary

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Every Outfit Podcast

Episode 278: On Sex and the City: The Drought

Release Date: June 19, 2026
Hosts: Chelsea Fairless & Lauren Garroni

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Episode Overview

In this delightfully in-depth rewatch episode, Chelsea and Lauren tackle "The Drought," the penultimate episode of Sex and the City season one. Centering on the infamous moment when Carrie farts in front of Big, they discuss how this minor mishap spirals into existential relationship anxiety, and reflect on the broader theme of intimacy versus perfectionism. Along the way, they cover notable cultural updates tangential to Sex and the City, analyze character arcs, and draw connections between this early episode and the seeds of plotlines that shape future seasons.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sex and the City News & Pop Culture Connections (04:11–11:22)

• Sarah Jessica Parker's Documentary

  • SJP has produced Bang My Box: The Robin Byrd Story, debuting June 30 on HBO Max. Robin Byrd, a legendary NYC adult TV host, is described as "much more of a Samantha."
  • Memorable quote:

    “There’s no way she produced this documentary. The woman. Well, just because it’s called Bang My Box also.”
    — Lauren, 05:38

• Olivia Rodrigo's Sex and the City-Inspired Song

  • Discuss the release of "Maggots for Brains," inspired by Miranda and Steve’s relationship, but express mild disappointment at its limited SATC references.
  • Quote:

    “I wish there was more Sex and the City in this song. Just because it was teased in advance…”
    — Lauren, 07:36

• Olivia Rodrigo's Musical Evolution

  • Comment on Rodrigo’s shift towards a “sad girl pop” sound, making references to Smashing Pumpkins’ "Siamese Dream" era and missing Taylor Swift’s earlier sonic vibe.

• Taylor Swift Wedding Rumor

  • Tangent about rumors of Taylor Swift getting married at Madison Square Garden, noting logistical advantages for privacy.

2. Deep Dive: ‘The Drought’ Rewatch Begins (13:37 Onwards)

Episode Structure & The Iconic Fart Scene

• Carrie and Big's Comfortable Domesticity (13:50–14:38)

  • Hosts reflect on how the show depicts the comfort of long-term intimacy, kicked off by a voiceover:

    “New York City is all about sex. People getting it, people trying to get it, and people who can't get it. No wonder the city never sleeps. It's too busy trying to get laid.”
    — Carrie (voiced by Chelsea), 13:37

• The Infamous Fart (14:38–17:46)

  • The moment: Carrie farts upon waking next to Big, who laughs uproariously, showing unexpected warmth.
    • Lauren notes, “It’s a very high-pitched fart. I would say it’s feminine because of the high pitch.” (14:55)
    • Chelsea: “This really made me see Big in a totally new light. He seems like a great hang.” (15:37)
  • Carrie spirals—as the fart becomes a stand-in for her fear of not being 'perfect'.

Internalized Misogyny, Shame, and Perfectionism

• Carrie’s mortification leads to self-sabotage and overanalysis, culminating in her running out of Big’s apartment.

  • Chelsea: “If Carrie could just be in the moment for a second…instead of immediately being embarrassed.” (16:15)
  • Lauren: “It’s way less awkward to just laugh than do this whole dramatic charade because you farted.” (17:46)

• Carrie's Intense Anxiety

  • Carrie's fixation: “Did I fuck up my relationship because I farted? And Big no longer sees me as perfect.” (03:38)
  • Ongoing joke: The recurring sound effect of high-pitched farting in Carrie’s internal monologue (18:17).

Normalcy, Droughts, and Sexpectations (24:30–29:47)

• Miranda and Carrie’s Conversation

  • Miranda scoffs at Carrie’s anxiety over a three-times-in-a-row sex drought, sharing her own three-month dry spell.
  • Carrie (quote, 25:08):

    “I don’t want him to know that. I mean, he’s this perfect guy...and I’m the girl who farts. I mean, no wonder we’re not having sex.”

  • The group discusses what qualifies as “normal” regarding bedroom frequency:
    • “Normal is the halfway point between what you want and what you can get.” — Samantha, recounted at 27:39 by Chelsea.

• Carrie’s Column

  • Outlines a parade of vox-pop voices on sexual frequency—the average, the outliers, and those quietly dissatisfied.
  • Lauren on Carrie’s columns:

    "Frankly, I'm just gonna say it. I don't think this week's column was very good." (28:41)

3. Supporting Storylines and Ensemble Plot Threads

Charlotte’s Celibacy Saga and Prozac Plotline (34:23–36:27)

• Charlotte dates a “husband material” man who resists sex. Carrie realizes she’s already slept with him—revealing him to be a “sex maniac”—and the twist is he’s now on Prozac, affecting his libido.
• Chelsea:

  “That happened to me and then I felt obligated to date that guy for a few more weeks.” (36:10)

  • Both hosts note how this presages Charlotte’s future storyline with Trey.

Samantha and the “Tantric Celibacy” Yogi (29:47–32:47, 55:14–56:12)

• Samantha gets entangled with Siddhartha, a yoga instructor professing “tantric celibacy”—clearly a self-invented, performative discipline. The hosts agree there’s “something sinister about his celibacy” (61:52).
• Lauren: “He’s like, I’m being celibate so that I can live in a constant state of edging.” (30:36)
• Samantha’s attempted seduction and subsequent frustration are played for laughs.

Miranda’s Dry Spell and Blockbuster Blowup (43:43–54:00)

• Miranda, enduring a “drought,” repeatedly rents a “five-hour Danish documentary on the Nuremberg trials” from Blockbuster for the free gummy bears, illustrating her sexual frustration and malaise.
• Her encounter with a catcalling construction worker escalates hilariously when she turns the tables:
  • Miranda (imitating to construction worker):

    “What I want is to get laid. What I need is to get laid.” (54:00)

• The hosts revel in Miranda’s righteous, comedic retort.
  • Lauren: “She got real Italian there for a minute.” (54:16)
  • Chelsea: “I think one of Miranda's finest moments, probably.” (54:47)

4. Carrie's Spiral, Voyeurism, and Emotional Honesty (38:42–59:05)

• Carrie’s Anxiety Peaks

  • Obsesses over her deteriorating relationship, viewing a neighbor couple’s open window sex as a catalyst to confront Big.
  • Chelsea: “She's nearly assaulting Big with the way she's coming on to him.” (39:33)

• Fighting Over Sex vs. Just Needing Sleep

  • Big rebuffs Carrie's advances, wanting to watch a pay per view fight, leading to an argument where Carrie dramatically yells about his “perfect” life.
    • Big: “Would you knock it the fuck off? I’m trying to watch this fight…” (40:02)

• Voyeurism with the Girls

  • The quartet gathers to watch the neighbors have sex—hilariously eating gummy bears, paralleling “Trudy and Sting-style” endless lovemaking.
  • Lauren:

    “If I make it to four months without having sex with someone, I'm humping one of you guys.” (53:10)

  • Group meta-commentary: It's “weird” but also iconic for the show.

• Climactic Resolution

  • Big visits Carrie’s (messy) apartment, accepts her as-is, and they reconcile without ever discussing the fart.
  • Chelsea:

    “This episode...might be the Rosetta Stone for the rest of Sex and the City.” (58:45)

  • Carrie’s VO sums it up:

    “Odd how normal can sometimes feel so uncomfortable.” (60:14)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Farting and Perfection:

  "Instead of immediately being embarrassed...if Carrie could just be in the moment for a second..."
  — Chelsea, 16:15

• Big’s Likability:

  “I don't think I've seen Mr. Big this happy…even a Cuban cigar has not made him this happy.”
  — Lauren, 16:10

• Miranda’s Catcall Clapback:

  “What I want is to get laid. What I need is to get laid.”
  — Miranda (as quoted by Chelsea), 54:00

• On Sex as a Metric:

  "Normal is the halfway point between what you want and what you can get."
  — Samantha (recounted by Chelsea), 27:39

• Carrie on Being Herself:

  “I’m not like, me. I'm, like, together Carrie...it's just exhausting.”
  — Carrie (voiced by Lauren), 48:39

• Meta Take on Storylines:

  “A lot of these early, early ideas...are all seeded in this episode. But they just don't know how to make it come together—pun intended…”
  — Chelsea, 55:14

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Segment Highlights & Timestamps

| Segment/Theme | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------------|------------------| | Sex and the City/Pop Culture News | 04:11 – 11:22 | | Episode Rewatch Intro & Iconic Fart | 13:37 – 17:46 | | Carrie's Shame Spiral & Intimacy | 17:47 – 24:30 | | Sexpectations: How Often Is Normal? | 24:30 – 29:47 | | Miranda's and Charlotte’s Storylines | 34:23 – 36:27 | | Samantha/Siddhartha Tantric Blunder | 29:47 – 32:47 | | Miranda's Blockbuster Adventure | 43:43 – 54:00 | | Carrie vs. Big: Fights & Fears | 39:20 – 41:36 | | Voyeurism with Gummy Bears | 51:58 – 53:40 | | Emotional Climax and Reconciliation | 58:05 – 60:14 | | Rapid-fire Awards & Reflections | 60:51 – End |

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Awards, Reflections, & Closing Thoughts

Best Dressed:

• Carrie in the pink David Bowie baby tee. “Not exactly a show-stopping Carrie Bradshaw piece, but it’s special.” (47:13)

MVP:

• Mr. Big: “He's very even keeled. He's very chill. Not the aloof man we will know him as in future seasons.” (61:23)

Person to Vote Off Manhattan:

• Siddhartha the yoga instructor: “Something sinister about his celibacy.” (61:52)

Favorite Line:

• Miranda: “What I want is to get laid. What I need is to get laid.” (54:00)

Who Are You?

• Chelsea relates to Charlotte, Miranda, and Samantha’s phases of celibacy.
• Lauren: “I’m definitely Miranda...I would yell back at a construction worker.” (63:05)

Biggest Trigger:

• Charlotte’s Prozac storyline echoing her eventual Trey arc (Chelsea, 63:22).
• Lauren: The guy who “takes jerk off breaks” and a Bill Maher anecdote.

Hottest Take:

• Lauren: Calling the group’s voyeurism “weird” (“They’re like boys with access to Cinemax.” 64:09)
• Chelsea: “Carrie willed Natasha into her life by being so neurotic about imperfection.” (65:44)

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Final Reflection

While "The Drought" may not have the glitziest wardrobe moments, it proves pivotal for Sex and the City lore. Chelsea and Lauren unearth the building blocks of future character arcs, underscore the show’s singular handling of intimacy and embarrassment, and appreciate the show’s early strides in representing diverse sexual (and non-sexual) experiences. The hosts’ banter remains biting, affectionate, and—like Carrie’s gas—unexpectedly, and refreshingly, human.

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Manolo Ratings:
Chelsea: 8/10
Lauren: 7/10
“A very funny episode where everyone has a plotline and Mr. Big is more endearing than ever.”

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Useful for fans and newcomers alike, this episode recap highlights both the hilarity and humanity at the heart of early Sex and the City—and why, even a quarter-century later, a single fart can still spark both laughter and deep self-reflection.

Transcript

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[Chelsea Fairless]

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This is our monthly rewatch of a

[Chelsea Fairless]

Sex in the City episode. We have decided to do the Drought, which is the penultimate episode of season one for no other reason than we both remembered. This is the episode where Carrie farts

[Lauren Garoni]

in front of Big iconic app.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I did not realize. Obviously I knew she farted, but that the fact that the runner the entire episode is Carrie being like, did I fuck up my relationship because I farted? And Big no longer sees me as perfect. The words fart and perfect are used the most out of any other phrase in not just this episode, but any episode, like usually Sex. Fuck Manhattan. Yeah, we don't even get it. I couldn't help but wonder. In this episode, we really are in uncharted territory.

[Lauren Garoni]

We are. But before we dive into this episode, we have some Sex and the City news to address. First of all, Sarah Jessica Parker has produced a documentary about Robin Bird that premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival. It is called Bang My Box.

[Chelsea Fairless]

The Robin Bird Story.

[Lauren Garoni]

For those of you who don't live in New York, Robin Byrd is a former porn star who hosted a cable access show called the Robin Byrd show from the late 70s to the late 90s. It aired on public access television. And when we lived there, like, did you watch it? Because it was syndicated after that point,

[Chelsea Fairless]

I feel like even though it was New York public access, it made its way to Los Angeles public access. I feel like I was at a sleepover once in the late 90s and it was Robin Bird showing a plaster of her own vagina.

[Lauren Garoni]

So iconic. But before I saw the actual show, I think we both probably saw the SNL skit with Sherry o' Terry playing Robin Byrd.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Of course, yes, she has been satirized. I mean, there have to be clips on YouTube. I'm sure there were prolific VHS freaks who obsessively recorded the Robin Byrd Show.

[Lauren Garoni]

There are definitely clips, but not enough. Like, not enough for my liking. This documentary needed to be made, and

[Chelsea Fairless]

we were both shocked because we first saw Sarah Jessica Parker on the red carpet doing interviews during the premiere of this documentary. We were like, there's no way that she produced this documentary. The woman.

[Lauren Garoni]

Well, just because it's called Bang My Box also. And obviously there's some overlap between Sex and the City and the Robin Bird Show. Robin Byrd is much more of a Samantha, but it is just a little more controversial than I would expect from Sarah Jessica Parker. So it's really cool that she did that.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But she is indeed a producer, which might explain why the documentary will be premiering on HBO. Max. June 30th.

[Lauren Garoni]

Great.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I love when something premieres and you're like, wow, I can't wait to watch that. And they're like, don't worry. In two weeks you can.

[Lauren Garoni]

So we will report back about that. Also, in a previous episode, we mentioned that Olivia Rodrigo wrote a song that was inspired by Miranda and Steve. That song has come out. It is called Maggots for Brains. And no, it's not about Carrie's relationship with Aiden Bom.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, she was on popcast and she discussed the fact that on this album, which has now come out, but at the time, it hadn't that there was a song inspired by the line in the episode that we recently did, X

[Lauren Garoni]

in the City, X in the City,

[Chelsea Fairless]

where Miranda runs away from Steve, and when he confronts her at her apartment, she cries and says, every time something funny happens, I wish I could tell you.

[Lauren Garoni]

So this is a clip from Maggots for Brains.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I know he come over and take real good care of me.

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

It's

[Chelsea Fairless]

not here.

[Lauren Garoni]

I have to say, I wish there was more sex in the city in this song. Just because it was teased in advance. I kind of had the expectation that there would be a little more Miranda and Steve in this song.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, it made me realize that Olivia Rodrigo sings a lot in the third person or she's singing to someone else. I think also, this didn't hit as hard because Miranda saying, I wish I could tell you these funny things. It doesn't have the same impact as, oh, I wish I could tell him.

[Lauren Garoni]

Well, I will say I do like the song. It's just not that Sex in the City adjacent.

[Chelsea Fairless]

No, we just had higher hopes. We thought maybe this would be a little more Sex and the City Relevant. But we respect Olivia Rodrigo as an artist, of course.

[Lauren Garoni]

And I like this record a lot. She has ditched the Veruca Salt letters to Cleo sounding songs, which does kind of suck because she was the artist that was single handedly keeping that genre of music alive. But I just think she's like too sad to write songs like that now. Like she's in her Billy Corgan bag, you know?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, it's funny you say that because I've listened to some of the album. You sent me a couple music videos and it's. Yeah, she's definitely in her melancholy and the infinite sadness era.

[Lauren Garoni]

I would say maybe even more Siamese dream. When you look at a song like the Cure, which is one of the best songs she's ever made.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Right. It's very disarm you with a smile.

[Lauren Garoni]

Totally. And for me, Olivia Rodrigo hits because it's like the music I'm not getting from Taylor Swift that I want, you know, Like, I think if Taylor Swift released Stupid Song or the Cure from this record, people would freak out. But also it hits because she's referencing Smashing Pumpkins whole. Those kinds of bands. But more so on this record. Like the Cure, the Cars, that sort of thing.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, yeah, now that I think about it. I mean, it's kind of her and Billie Eilish giving us sad girl pop star representation.

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[Lauren Garoni]

Taylor Swift no longer a tortured poet. Yeah. I wonder if that rumor about the Taylor Swift wedding is true. I can see the logic behind getting married there. Just because it is private. There are no windows. You can drive into an underground parking garage and not be photographed.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Right. And this is a story that TMZ has been running from sources they have. I feel like it bears mentioning because when you think Madison Square Garden, you're like, oh, Taylor Swift is getting married, you know, on the court where the Knicks play. And There is a 5,000 seat theater within Madison Square Garden that I assume is where she is, according to tmz, not getting married. There'll be a private ceremony and then there will be some sort of reception with many musical guests.

[Lauren Garoni]

Well, we'll see if this actually materializes. But good for Olivia Rodrigo for being sad.

[Chelsea Fairless]

The one remaining sad pop star for

[Lauren Garoni]

being really fucking sad. Actually, on that episode of popcast, she identified as a Charlotte with a Carrie rising, which is absolutely accurate.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That's interesting. You don't get a lot of Charlottes with Carrie Risings. And I see it.

[Lauren Garoni]

Well, you don't get a lot of Charlottes that know they're Charlottes. You know, most of them think they

[Chelsea Fairless]

are Carrie's and yet she idolizes Miranda and Steve's relationship. I think for the next album I would love a song inspired by Charlotte and Trey's dynamic.

[Lauren Garoni]

Oh, I live for that.

[Chelsea Fairless]

The perfect man, but he can't get erect for you. Which, speaking of which, I was shocked that that is also Charlotte's storyline for this episode.

[Lauren Garoni]

Oh, and by the way, I did order like an Olivia Rodrigo picture disc that I had sent to your house because I'm not going to be in town next week. So look out for that along with a couple of vases that I bought on Etsy.

[Chelsea Fairless]

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[Lauren Garoni]

Okay, back to the episode.

[Chelsea Fairless]

All right. It starts, of course, with the Carrie voiceover. New York City is all about sex. People getting it, people trying to get it, and people who can't get it. No wonder the city never sleeps. It's too busy trying to get laid.

[Lauren Garoni]

Classic Candace.

[Chelsea Fairless]

So Carrie and Big are in bed together. Very Sex in the City first film. They love to be in bed together and read a book.

[Lauren Garoni]

But this is a montage. And presumably this is Carrie and Big over a period of weeks.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Right. That culminates with them in bed. Big is reading a biography on President Truman. Kind of sus. But I love that we've been conditioned, that their vibe is so toxic that we forget that at their best, they are just a couple that wants to be snuggled up together with a good book from the New York Public Library or Barnes and Noble. This is where Carrie says, after sleeping together for many weeks, Mr. Big and I had gotten comfortable enough to really sleep together.

[Lauren Garoni]

And it's all fun and games until Carrie lets one rip.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I was trying to think about this and I was like, have I ever farted first thing in the morning? Because it's like their eyes open and she toots. And it's a very funny tooting sound, I must say.

[Lauren Garoni]

Well, it's very high pitched. Like, in the scheme of farts that you could do around your boyfriend, like, this would be the ideal, I would say it's feminine because of the high pitch. You know what I mean?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. It has like a, you know, out of key trumpet noise.

[Lauren Garoni]

It doesn't suggest that she has, like, broader digestive issues that might need to be addressed.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But did you feel like Big clocks this fart way too quickly?

[Lauren Garoni]

Well, how could you not clock a fart quickly? I love Big's reaction to this because he thinks it's hysterical and it feels really, really genuine. Like, Chris Noth's acting, impeccable.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. This really made me see Big in a totally new light. He seems like a great hang.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah, he's like, choking on his own laughter, which makes things that happen later in the episode make less sense because he's clearly completely delighted by this situation.

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

Right.

[Chelsea Fairless]

There's obviously some sort of internalized misogyny that Carrie has because instead of just like being in the moment and maybe reacting based on Big's reaction, which is he's not grossed out, he's laughing like, instead of just.

[Lauren Garoni]

Have we ever seen Mr. Big this happy?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I don't think so.

[Lauren Garoni]

I actually don't think we have.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, I don't even think a Cuban cigar has made him this happy. Well, I was gonna say we didn't get to see Big's reactions to the Knicks winning, but I guess he's dead, so he doesn't know that the Knicks have won a championship. Anyway, what I was trying to say is that if Carrie could just be in the moment for a second instead of immediately being embarrassed. She ducks under the covers, which Big has that great line. I think it's worse under there. That made me laugh. And she wraps herself in the covers and runs into Big's door, which I think is actually more embarrassing than farting in front of your boyfriend.

[Lauren Garoni]

Oh, for sure.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I conflated. I thought this was the episode where Carrie not only farts, but she punches Big in the face. But that is an episode from season two.

[Lauren Garoni]

This episode is really about the fact that Carrie farts and then makes it

[Chelsea Fairless]

Mr. Big's problem, which again, she quickly gets ready and he's like, hey, do you want some breakfast? And she's like, uh, no, I forgot about a thing. Then leaves. And this happens every time I watch like a Pre Mid Season 2 episode where it is a jump scare every time she speaks to the camera. And she only does it, I think once in this episode. And it's in this moment when she looks at the camera and goes, oh my God, I was mortified. And it has to be around this moment. The writers were like, I don't know if we need her talking to camera. I think we were able to illustrate that she's mortified just in the scene itself.

[Lauren Garoni]

And I get being mortified. I used to be more uptight about that sort of thing, like Carrie. But I've since realized that it's way less awkward to just laugh than it is to like do this whole dramatic charade because you farted.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I think about how embarrassing tripping is in public and how much easier it is if you trip with a friend because then they laugh and then those that witness it feel more comfortable. And I agree with you. You just gotta laugh through these situations.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Fairless]

The way that this occupies Carrie's mind makes me think that she needs to see a therapist because she's like, I didn't call him the rest of the day. I tried to lose myself in work, but every time I stop to think and then you just hear a comically high pitched fart noise, like, is this the most juvenile Sex and the City episode?

[Lauren Garoni]

Well, we don't think about Sex and the City as a show that has a lot of. Of toilet humor. But it actually does because Charlotte shits her pants in the first Sex and the City movie. We have the whole bit about Steve's skid marks. We have the episode where Jim Gaffigan takes a in front of Miranda. We, of course, have Michael Patrick King as an extra at the mental institution, screaming about feces. This is a bit less dramatic, but we have, you know, Miranda wiping Brady on her face accidentally. Oh, I forgot about the fromage.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, the fromage.

[Lauren Garoni]

Anyway, continue.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Michael Patrick King wrote this with another gentleman called Michael Green. So I think that might explain all of the farting humor in this episode, including a whoopee cushion. A good old fashioned whoopee cushion. So Carrie goes to Big's apartment. They're having Chinese food. Maybe not the cuisine I would choose if I had just farted in front of my boyfriend, but to each their own. I love that she suggests going to a Goya exhibit at the Met because that took me out of this entire scene where it's like, I can't really see Big and Carrie going to the Met to see a Goya exhibit.

[Lauren Garoni]

I can. You always say this about Carrie. You're like, this bitch doesn't read. She would never see a Goya exhibit. I dispute that. I think she is absolutely that girl.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I more meant as a date that Mr. Big would willingly go to on the weekends.

[Lauren Garoni]

Okay, hashtag, not all men just want to watch sports and drink beer.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Except that is what Big does later on in this episode.

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I guess I also find it hard to believe that Big will willingly go to the Met on a Saturday because clearly he has decided not to call Carrie. But between meetings, or perhaps he had his assistant go to some sort of magic shop or I don't know where whoopee cushions are sold, but purchase a whoopee cushion, trick Carrie to sort of, hey, can you get me the duck sauce? Put a whoopee cushion under her seat so that she sits on it.

[Lauren Garoni]

This is why Mr. Big is extremely cool. I took it as he went to FAO Schwartz on his lunch break.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Of course, you know what? You are correct. Big would get the classiest, most expensive whoopee cushion there is.

[Lauren Garoni]

I don't know if there's a classy, expensive one. I think it's just like there's the company that makes them like, the original,

[Chelsea Fairless]

you know, the whoopee cushion. Okay. They both laugh. Carrion voiceover goes, there's a moment in every relationship where romance gives way to reality. And you're like, okay, great, we have settled things. This semi embarrassing moment Happened Even though Big laughed, Carrie didn't. So Big did this sort of practical joke that did make Carrie laugh. We can move on, right? Chelsea?

[Lauren Garoni]

Again, I don't think I've seen Mr. Big ever look happier.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You are correct. You know, he tickled himself so much that he was too tired to fuck. Do you think that Big is actually tired or Carrie trying to romance him gave him the ick?

[Lauren Garoni]

I think he's actually tired. I think it's totally normal to not have sex with your partner every single night. But maybe that's just me. But that is a question that this episode poses.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I think the concern is that this is happening this early into a relationship where they're not sleeping over every single night.

[Lauren Garoni]

But it's really hard for me to trust Carrie, like, as a. Like she's not a reliable narrator. I'm sorry.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, at the very least, we know this was the first night that we slept together and didn't make love.

[Lauren Garoni]

And then that happened two more times within the span of what, a couple weeks? They're not hanging out every day. They just started dating.

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[Lauren Garoni]

I understand. That is a red flag. Like, I do think that early in a relationship, like, you should be having sex all the time, obviously. But I also think that it's not that weird.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, but are you in a bit of a drought after you farted in front of your partner?

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[Chelsea Fairless]

I do love Miranda in this episode. This is maybe her at her most caustic. I love her anger in this episode. So Carrie and Miranda are getting manicures and she's like, oh, you think three times is bad? What about three months?

[Lauren Garoni]

She's going through a dry spell of her own.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I also love that Carrie will not willingly admit that she farted. She keeps explaining to her friends, like, is it weird that we haven't had sex the last three times over a couple weeks? And they're like, no, that's not that weird. She's like, what if I farted? And then everyone's like, wait, what? You farted?

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

You're human. I don't want him to know that. I mean, he's this perfect guy, you know, he walks around his perfect department with his perfect suits. Perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect. And I'm the girl who farts. I mean, no wonder we're not having sex.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You're insane.

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

It's.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It's been three times. It's perfectly normal.

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

Says who? I mean, say it's not, then. Then what else is going on? I mean, is it normal to be in the same bed and not do it?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I guess it depends on what's normal for you. Okay? I love using do it as a euphemism for sex. And I think we really need to bring it back.

[Lauren Garoni]

I do appreciate the simplicity.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I think that by the time they got around to X and the City, Michael Patrick King had really figured out and solidified the concept of why Carrie not being perfect is so difficult for her. Because we start in season one with a fart, and then by season two, she's like, I'm too wild. You know, I've got the curly hair

[Lauren Garoni]

and I'm just ripping farts left and right. It's so crazy that in this episode, at no point does she go to Mr. Big and be like, I farted. I'm Spiraling like, please tell me that you're still attracted to me. No, she'll tell Miranda. She'll tell Samantha.

[Guest/Caller]

She'll.

[Lauren Garoni]

Did she tell Charlotte?

[Chelsea Fairless]

She doesn't.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah. Too ashamed to even tell Charlotte.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I mean, Carrie is keeping this information under lock and key. The same way that she didn't want to tell her friends that she was big when he was married. Like those are on the same level to her.

[Lauren Garoni]

Okay, so this of course informs her column that week.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I mean, I wish it was all about farts, but. No, it's about having sex.

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

There are 1.3 million single men in New York. 1.8 million single women. And of these more than 3 million people, about 12 think they're having enough sex. How often is normal?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I have to masturbate three times a day just to make it through.

[Guest/Caller]

Some people take coffee breaks, I take jerk off breaks.

[Chelsea Fairless]

They say the average 33 year old

[Lauren Garoni]

woman has sex 3.5 times a week.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I like to know who that woman is. You know, my wife and I haven't

[Guest/Caller]

had sex since a baby was born.

[Chelsea Fairless]

The baby's applying to Yale next fall.

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

Once, one time a day, but two time on very special day.

[Lauren Garoni]

I love that. She even asks her manicurist, so how often do you get fucked?

[Chelsea Fairless]

As always, excellent Asian American representation on Sex and the City. But I think Samantha in the next scene has the best answer about what is a normal amount. Which is normal is the halfway point between what you want and what you can get. It is a very uniquely 90s idea that there's a one size fits all answer to this. It's like, obviously if you're married to a sex addict, they need to fuck all the time. There are some people with low sex needs. I think it's about matching the correct thing. But again, that is not what is going on between Carrie and Big.

[Lauren Garoni]

No, not at all. I mean, people's sex drives vary so greatly. There's so many external factors that play into that. Also. Also, I know married women whose husbands want to have sex constantly. And they do, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the quality is always good, you know.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Which married friend are you referring to? Chelsea, not you.

[Lauren Garoni]

I'm just saying some people are like, you know what? I'm just gonna lie here and take it.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But Carrie really is putting herself in the same conversation of people that are in long term relationships. And frankly, I'm just gonna say it. I don't think this week's column was very good.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah, because she didn't actually reveal her

[Chelsea Fairless]

farting Ways which would have been far funnier. But as we've noticed in these rewatch episodes, Carrie's column versus her real life, there are some gaps. Okay, so there are a lot of things that take place in this episode that we kind of lose over time through the run of Sex and the City. One thing is them hanging out in Cari's apartment. Another thing is instead of always having walk and talks or conversations in the diner, they are doing activities together, like getting manicures, like doing yoga at a certain point. We never see them work out past season five, which is fine.

[Lauren Garoni]

They had done every, like, fad exercise class by that point.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But of course, Samantha in the late 90s would be doing yoga, which was really at the apex of its power post Madonna.

[Lauren Garoni]

I also love that, like whenever they do do yoga, there's often this costuming thing where everyone in the class is wearing white except for the girls.

[Chelsea Fairless]

What do you think of this yoga instructor named Siddhartha? Which. Is that a nickname? Is that a name he gave himself or is he really named Siddhartha?

[Lauren Garoni]

Oh, I guess I didn't really read into that. I mean, he seems like a freak to me. I would understand it more if he was like a recovering sex and love addict that was in like a 12 step program or something.

[Chelsea Fairless]

We'll get into it. But it seems like he's using Eastern philosophy to sort of put himself in a sex addict therapy of his own making.

[Lauren Garoni]

But it's more like he's just like gooning.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I mean, yeah, he's essentially edging himself.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah, he's like, I'm not being celibate because I'm a sex addict. He's like, I'm being celibate so that I can live in a constant state of edging.

[Chelsea Fairless]

He calls it tantric celibacy. Which also reminded me of how in 1998, because of Sting, the idea of tantric sex was everywhere.

[Lauren Garoni]

Sting and Trudy Styler. It takes two to tantric.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And I'm sure the quality was always a plus. Wasn't that the thing that they were for like eight hours?

[Lauren Garoni]

I bet it was a plus.

[Chelsea Fairless]

So just to jump back to the previous scene where Carrie is talking to Samantha about like, is it bad that we haven't been having sex? And Samantha's like, do you want the truth? And she's like, yeah, I think you're in trouble. And then Carrie's like, but what if I now told you that we're not having sex because I farted? And Samantha's essentially like, oh, you're See,

[Lauren Garoni]

I hate when Samantha is like that. She becomes less like that as the show progresses. But in the earlier seasons, she is very like, down to cleave to the patriarchy, if you will.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yes. As she says, no, honey, you're a woman and men don't like women to be human. We aren't supposed to fart, use tampons, or have hair in places we shouldn't. I mean, hell, a guy once broke up with me because I missed a bikini wax, which is a critique.

[Lauren Garoni]

But she's also like, and now I will never miss another bikini wax for the rest of my life.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, I was gonna say this is a plot point that Daddy Mpk was like, hm, we referenced that in season one. Let's bring that back in. I think it was season three. But you are correct that, yeah, this incident must have wounded Samantha so much that now she waxes every other week. As she mentions in that episode where the guy says that her bush is too hairy or whatever it is. I think about that line once a quarter my week between waxes. No waxer will take you. Your hair's not long enough. Anyway, Samantha must have loved laser hair removal. Oh, I do like that. At the end of this scene, Samantha's like, just go fuck his brains out. Men are not that complicated. They're like plants.

[Lauren Garoni]

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[Lauren Garoni]

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[Lauren Garoni]

Okay, but Robert definitely would have not gotten Miranda courtside seats after what she did to him. But I love that someone thinks that. And that's what's so great about Reddit. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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Download the Reddit app today. So the next scene is Carrie and Charlotte. Carrie cannot bring herself to tell Charlotte about this fart.

[Chelsea Fairless]

We meet Charlotte's new boyfriend, who she has been dating for several weeks and they have not had sex, which she thinks is a marker of husband material because he respects her boundaries, right?

[Lauren Garoni]

But then when he walks up, Carrie's like, oh, no, I have fucked this man before.

[Chelsea Fairless]

So Miranda and Charlotte have both dipped into Carrie's waters, right? Like they both had Carrie's sloppy seconds, essentially. So I love how Charlotte is just like running down like, okay, when did you guys date? Three years ago. And Charlotte's like, I can live with that. Which I thought was respectful. Charlotte does give off the vibes of like, I could never be with a man that one of my friends has had sex with.

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[Lauren Garoni]

And then Charlotte's like, why did you guys break up? And Carrie says, because he was a sex maniac.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Which instead of internalizing that, I guess this is very Charlotte. She's like, oh my God. That makes him not wanting to fuck me even sweeter because he's this sex maniac and he's not trying to have sex with me immediately, where maybe I've watched too many Sex and the City episodes, but I forgot what Charlotte's storyline was for this episode. But when I heard that, I went, oh, this can't be good for Charlotte.

[Lauren Garoni]

So she goes home with him, tries to fuck him because I guess she's turned on by his restraint and he can't get it up.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yes. He stops mid act and then attempts to break up with her. He's like, I don't think this is gonna work, and explains that he is no longer a sex maniac because he is now on Prozac, which talk about

[Lauren Garoni]

an ahead of its time plotline. I hear people talk about this all the time now. Or like people that I know that are dating men because so many people are on antidepressants presence now that like, it's actually really, really common.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yes, it is. That happened to me and then I felt obligated to date that guy for A few more weeks.

[Lauren Garoni]

It's been known to happen.

[Chelsea Fairless]

From what I understand, it's all about Wellbutrin.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah, Wellbutrin is the one that doesn't have sexual side effects.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But certainly in the late 90s, Prozac was the go to SSRI.

[Lauren Garoni]

But also whatever you gotta do, no judgment.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Slight digression. We had to briefly stop recording because there was some leaf blowing action going on that was making me lose my mind and I couldn't do that to. You don't want that in the background of this podcast.

[Lauren Garoni]

But have you been able to shake off the vibes?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I have. Because while we were doom scrolling on our phone, we just saw that Miss Sarah Jessica Parker is back as the face for the new Fendi baguette.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yes, the new baguette 26424, rolls off the tongue. Beautifully designed by Maria Grazia.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Of course.

[Lauren Garoni]

I was trying to figure out how the design of this Fendi baguette is new from the original baguette. And I think it is in the length of the shoulder strap because I think typically Fendi baguettes had a short shoulder strap. Sometimes there's also a long one that like sits in the interior of the bag, but I believe this one has a longer strap to begin with. So if you're wearing it on your shoulder, like the excess of the strap hangs down, like, in a dramatic way.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Sure. I'm mostly taken with the fact that Sarah Jessica Parker seems to be wearing that jumpsuit that she wore in Was it Season two event. Just like that when she's at the Real Deal.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah, totally. With J.W. anderson pigeon clutch. She is wearing what looks like a vintage flight suit, although this one is Fendi because, like, the long sort of zipper poles are branded.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, there you go.

[Lauren Garoni]

I also love that the song is Addison Ray's Fame is a Gun. Kind of strange choice, but you know what?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I'll take it. This is funny to have Sarah Jessica Parker as the face of the Fendi baguette. It of course makes sense, but only because they used Sarah Jessica Parker a few years ago when they reissued the Fendi baguette.

[Lauren Garoni]

Well, she has always been a friend of the house, as they say. She built that house.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay, back to the episode. Carrie is terrified to go over to Mr. Big because she cannot handle one more, as she calls it, platonic sleepovers. Is this the most we've seen Carrie in her own apartment in an episode?

[Lauren Garoni]

I don't know. I feel like large chunks of season one and two were spent in this apartment.

[Chelsea Fairless]

So this is when she sees her neighbors fucking, which, you know, it's season one. They didn't have the level of budget that they of course, would have in the seasons to come. But. But the view of this couple fucking does posit that Carrie lives in the back of her building and not in the front of her building.

[Lauren Garoni]

True, they're like five feet away. But whatever, we get it. It's very funny. And it apparently makes Carrie really horny because she then decides to go over to Mr. Big's apartment where she's wearing,

[Chelsea Fairless]

as she explains in her voiceover, my secret weapon skirt that really hugged my hips. What skirt is this?

[Lauren Garoni]

She looks gorgeous as always. But it's not exactly like a show stopping Carrie Bradshaw piece.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It's not the naked dress that she wore to fuck Big the first time. So this is the most like manic pixie dream girl BPD girlfriend Carrie gets because she's nearly assaulting Big with the way she's coming on to him.

[Lauren Garoni]

Totally. She's trying to fuck him. He's trying to watch this pay per

[Chelsea Fairless]

view fight and he, I mean, there's no other way to phrase it, freaks the fuck out on her.

[Guest/Caller]

Jesus, Carrie, come on.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Would you knock it the fuck off? I'm trying to watch this fight just.

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

Fine, I'll leave. What?

[Chelsea Fairless]

What is wrong with you? Why are you acting so nuts?

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

Well, maybe I'm not perfect. Maybe I don't fit into your perfect, you know, life with your perfect apartment and your perfect pay per view fight. Maybe I should leave.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yes, leave. Flatulence woman.

[Chelsea Fairless]

When people do skits that make fun of Carrie and her behavior, like this is the type of dialogue they would make up. But it's something that Carrie actually says to Mr. Big. Maybe I'm not perfect. Maybe I don't fit into your perfect life with your perfect apartment, your perfect pay per view fight. Is there such thing as a perfect pay per view fight?

[Lauren Garoni]

Look, this would be as if we were trying to watch the Met gala red carpet arrivals.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Lots. I mean, I just need to know, like, was it Tyson and Evander Holyfield? Because if so, then I do understand Big's reaction.

[Lauren Garoni]

I understand Big's reaction. Either way, they didn't make plans. This was his plan for his evening. And this really is Carrie's obsession moment. One of them.

[Chelsea Fairless]

She should just start going. No, no, no, no, no. My favorite thing is that after she leaves, because Big doesn't stop her, she

[Lauren Garoni]

waits in the hallway like for the oblig because she thinks he's going to run out.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Girl, and then she has the audacity to go, he didn't. And she's like, by the time I got home, I was sure he left an apology on my voicemail. Why, if anything, you should be apologizing and sitting in a corner.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And then she's like, I didn't sleep very well that night. And I'm sorry that with every rewatch I kind of become a big defender. But like, good, you shouldn't sleep well tonight. You acted super weird. Shit. This is way worse than farting. And I don't think she realizes that totally. There's a brief interlude with Samantha and Siddhartha where they are reading something and he has an erection. And she's like, I can take care of that. And he's like, no, I think there's a great line about like, it'll go down. And she's like, so could I. And I think this is also where Samantha is so turned on that later she goes to masturbate, but then doesn't because she's trying to reach some level of enlightenment through celibacy.

[Lauren Garoni]

Meanwhile, Miranda has rented a five hour Danish documentary on the Nuremberg trial.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Ugh. It was so wonderful to see a Blockbuster and that looked like a very large blockbuster. I'm sure that Blockbuster then became a Bed Bath and Beyond and is now probably a Trader Joe's or a Spirit Halloween.

[Lauren Garoni]

Could you ever rent 5 hour Danish documentaries about the Nuremberg trial at Blockbuster, though?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I mean, that's a double, if not triple vhs. I don't even know what the rental period on something like that would be.

[Lauren Garoni]

I don't know. I always rented movies from independent video stores, so to go into a Blockbuster, I was always like, wow, there's a lot of shit.

[Chelsea Fairless]

They don't have, you know, no adult section at the Blockbuster.

[Lauren Garoni]

They have like a thousand copies of Multiplicity but no Danish documentaries about the Nuremberg trial.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, I think that's the most puzz thing. One, that Miranda is going to a chain and not a mom and pop place, and two, that a Blockbuster does have a five hour Danish documentary about the Holocaust. But you know what? It's all worth it because she is one rental away from getting a pound of gummy bears, which I don't remember being a thing at Blockbuster, but it is an evocative image of how desperate Miranda's life is. Right now

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So she gets heckled by like some Bruce Springsteen looking man.

[Chelsea Fairless]

There are several things that take me out of this episode. The way that this construction worker is costumed, like he's a background actor from the sequel to Saturday Night Fever.

[Lauren Garoni]

That's exactly it.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It's funny because this episode comes out in 1998, a mere 10 years later. That is how every indie boy in Williamsburg will look because of American Apparel. Right? Is this where Cari sequesters herself in her apartment and decides to paint her kitchen cabinets? Yes.

[Lauren Garoni]

Wearing her pink David Bowie baby tea. So iconic.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You got to do it.

[Lauren Garoni]

That sent me down a rabbit hole. And I texted you about this. Do you remember that store, Olive and Betty's in the West Village?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I don't.

[Lauren Garoni]

They sold Sex in the City type shit. You know, like you could get a flouncy little midi skirt. You could get like a pashmina. But they also sold this particular genre sort of bootleg baby tea. Not exactly the same as like a St. Mark's Place tea. Although this, of course could also be from Patricia Field.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That's what I kind of assume that it's a Patricia Field Special, because it does make you wonder, is Carrie Bradshaw a David Bowie fan?

[Lauren Garoni]

If you're going to try and make an argument that she doesn't like Goya or David Bowie, I'm going to scratch Dream.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Look, Aladdin Sane. Absolutely Modern Love. Of course. Ziggy Stardust. I don't know.

[Lauren Garoni]

Definitely Ziggy Stardust. You're talking about Ziggy Stardust as if it's like, Captain Beefheart or something.

[Chelsea Fairless]

All right, but maybe she doesn't have the Berlin Years albums. At least give me that. But, yes, it's a very cute pink shirt. So cute that I don't know if I would be painting in it.

[Lauren Garoni]

But that's exactly my thought.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You're like, save that pristine vintage shirt, Carrie.

[Lauren Garoni]

Well, this is the thing. It's obviously not a real vintage shirt. It's a fake band shirt. You know, it's a fresh baby tee, right? Like, they were not making shirts like that, not for children when that record came out. But at a certain point, this sort of T shirt became popular in the 90s. And one of the better band tees we see her wear. I mean, that and the Hanson shirt.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I think the Hanson shirt might be better.

[Lauren Garoni]

The Hanson shirt is certainly more unique.

[Chelsea Fairless]

So Carrie is consumed with the fact that her relationship is over because of a fart, not because she freaked out on Big and acted very bizarrely. And I gotta say, this is maybe my favorite Miranda moment of the episode. No, second favorite. I should never have farted. Jesus, Carrie. That's it. I've heard enough about the fart. It's not the fucking fart.

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

I know it's not the fart. I just. I think I'm in love with him. And I'm terrified that he's gonna leave me because I'm not perfect.

[Chelsea Fairless]

All right, let's just put the roller down and go in the other room and talk, huh?

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

Sex has stopped. He hasn't called. What if he never calls and three weeks from now I pick up the New York Times and I read that he's married some perfect little woman who never passes gas under his $500 sheets?

[Chelsea Fairless]

When did you get some obsessed with being perfect?

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

I don't know. It's something about him. I mean, you should see me around him. I'm. I'm not like, me. I'm, like, together, Carrie. You know, I. I wear little outfits, you know, sexy carry and casual carry. Sometimes I catch myself actually posing. It's just. It's exhausting.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, then stop.

[Lauren Garoni]

She did predict the big Natasha New York Times situation. And Natasha is someone that does not fart.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Or she has the sphincter muscles too, to keep that in.

[Lauren Garoni]

I don't even think she shits.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You know what controversial statement? I think Natasha does poop from time to time. There is something so real about this, but so unsex in the City that Carrie realizes that she is in love with Mr. Big because of this farting incident. I mean, hearing the words, I know it's not about the fart. I just think I may be in love with him. There is something so funny about that, but it's not that. Something that I think about when I think about Sex in the City.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Totally.

[Lauren Garoni]

It's also so funny how fed up Miranda is about this particular situation.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You really realize how fed up she was in regards to Big from the jump. Her anger is the same level as the season finale of season three when they get in the fight in the thrift store.

[Lauren Garoni]

Totally.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Although, really, Miranda in that episode is just parroting back to Carrie what Carrie says in this episode of, like, I become this different person.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah, very true.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Although, when is Carrie not planning a little outfit?

[Lauren Garoni]

Exactly. She's always posing. She's always strutting. Do I strut? Am I a strutter?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Everything else that Carrie said is out of character, but the planning, the outfits, that's quintessential Carrie Bradshaw. Also, I'm assuming none of this is in her column, which probably would endear her and help the thousands, if not millions of single women in New York City.

[Lauren Garoni]

Totally. Because the question of whether you should fart around your partner is, like, a question as old as time. Although what I would really like to see Sex and the City handle is the, like, shitting around your partner. Like, when you first, like, are in a relationship with someone and you're, like, staying over, but you, like, can't shit at their house. Or maybe you've planned, like, a sexy vacation and you're, like, freaking out because you're sharing a hotel room for the first time.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And that's especially interesting at the socioeconomic level that Big is at, because I'm not sure he even has two bathrooms in his perfect apartment.

[Lauren Garoni]

We're also acting like Mr. Big doesn't shit. This man shits.

[Guest/Caller]

Oh.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I mean, the day that the toto came into his life was a glorious day.

[Lauren Garoni]

This shits that he must be doing after, like, dining at midtown steakhouses.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Sorry, I'm just imagining the Fuckettes listening to this podcast. And has this ever happened to you where you, like, start your car and carplay, like, automatically starts Playing the podcast.

[Lauren Garoni]

Like, I hope that came to someone at the correct moment.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yay.

[Guest/Caller]

Yay.

[Chelsea Fairless]

So this is when Miranda stops yelling at her friend because she's like, there are people fucking across the street from you. And then all the girls come over

[Lauren Garoni]

to be voyeurs back in the day when they hung out at each other's apartments.

[Chelsea Fairless]

This is a semi iconic screenshot that is often posted, but rarely do you remember which episode it is from. And it is from this episode. And the polite term is voyeurs, but really they're, I think, committing fourth degree sexual assault by non consensually watching these people or watching these people without their consent.

[Lauren Garoni]

But is it also assault when someone has sex in public?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I mean, this couple is in the confines of their own apartments, but the

[Lauren Garoni]

windows are completely open.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Right. There is something to New York living that you have to assume that you are being watched.

[Lauren Garoni]

I think if you're in your own apartment, it's fair game. I think it's on the couple, personally.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, yeah, I mean, they could close the blinds.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yes.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But I guess the more compelling thing is that they are having sex. I mean, they're doing it Trudy and Sting style. Seemingly they are going at it for hours. So I guess we're supposed to assume that Miranda was given her complimentary pound of gummy bears because all the girls are eating gummy bears while watching this couple have sex. Sex.

[Lauren Garoni]

She's also like, if I make it to four months without having sex with someone, I'm humping one of you guys.

[Chelsea Fairless]

This is a rare moment where you have Miranda berating Samantha about not having sex because she goes, samantha, I can't believe that you would give this up on purpose. And Samantha's like, I hardly miss it. Miranda goes, oh, how long has it been? She's like a hundred years. Very funny. Because I'm sure it's been 36 hours for Samantha and she's already losing her mind from not having sex sex.

[Lauren Garoni]

So the next day, Miranda's back at Blockbuster.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yes, I misspoke earlier because clearly this is the best Miranda moment of the episode. Because the construction worker starts sexually harassing her again. And she decides to get into it with him.

[Guest/Caller]

I got what you want. I got what you need.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You talking to me?

[Lauren Garoni]

Oh, we got a live one, boys.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You got what I want? You got what I need? Well, what I want is to get laid. What I need is to get laid. I need to get laid. Take it easy, lady.

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

I'm married.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I'll talk in no action. Huh?

[Lauren Garoni]

What a gabon she got real Italian there for a minute.

[Chelsea Fairless]

She got on his level.

[Lauren Garoni]

Sometimes you gotta sexually harass those who sexually harass you.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. I think it's okay to sexually harass someone if they first start sexually harassing you.

[Guest/Caller]

Of course.

[Lauren Garoni]

Course, he can dish it out, but he can't take it because he's married.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But do we think Miranda would have had sex with this construction worker, Samantha? 100%, no.

[Lauren Garoni]

It was the principle of it.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I think one of Miranda's finest moments, probably.

[Lauren Garoni]

But also strange when you consider that she got another street harassment plot line, which was the sandwich.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That's what this episode is really making me realize is a lot of these early, early ideas that work so well later in the series. Like Trey being impotent and Samantha and Friar.

[Guest/Caller]

Fuck.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Samantha and Friar Fuck. Miranda getting street harassed by a sandwich. Carrie bringing to life her own nightmare of how big would ultimately leave her. Like it is all seated in this episode.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But they just don't know how to make it come together. Pun intended. In the ways that they would later do in season two, three and four, where it's just this comedy explosion. Because I think the way that Samantha's storyline with Siddhartha is resolved is a perfect example of this where there's not really a comedic escalation. She's back in his yoga class. He tries to touch her just to correct her posture. And she's like. Like, get your fucking hands off of me.

[Lauren Garoni]

Well, the wanna fuck bit is so good. It's so classic Samantha. And in season one, we're still learning about this character, you know?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Right.

[Lauren Garoni]

But this says so much about who she is.

[Chelsea Fairless]

This also, I think, was the beginning of an impression we got about living in New York where it was very easy to get dates and have sex. Although I suppose if you're just going around asking people if they want to fight suck, eventually someone's gonna say yes.

[Lauren Garoni]

This episode did do a really good job of giving all the girls plot lines around the same theme, though. And it's about how much sex is normal. So Miranda and Samantha are grappling with not having sex. Zero sex. Carrie is overthinking her situation with Big and Charlotte. I guess we'll get into Charlotte now.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. I mean, to your point about learning more about who Samantha is, we're certainly learning who Charlotte is. And she is someone who will not take no for an answer. And she's like, flaccid dick. No problem. You've obviously not met my hand job, which, now that I'm thinking about it, they Will reuse in season two with the guy who falls asleep inside of Charlotte. So she makes all the girls go to a handjob seminar.

[Lauren Garoni]

Right, of course. So she's jerking this guy off. He's like, can you stop? I'm chafing because it's just not working. And then Charlotte's obviously visibly upset and he's like, come on, wouldn't you rather be with a guy who's kind and giving and not that interested in sex? And she's like, no.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. Versus an unstable over sex prick who only wants to get laid. And she's like, like, actually, no. No. I would like the more toxic person who will me.

[Lauren Garoni]

But it's nice that Charlotte comes to that conclusion. You know, there's no need to try and make it work with Cari's sloppy seconds.

[Chelsea Fairless]

As Cari says in her voiceover about Charlotte, when Charlotte realized she couldn't get what she thought she didn't want, she couldn't imagine going on without it.

[Lauren Garoni]

So now we've arrived at the final scene. Carrie is still painting her apartment. Apartment.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Presumably Raul, or Raul's predecessor has driven Big to Carrie's apartment because obviously in the first episode, the night they meet, he drops her off at her apartment. But this is the first time he's ever entered her apartment.

[Lauren Garoni]

And he's like, it's nice. And she's like, no, it's not. It's a mess.

[Chelsea Fairless]

The floors need to be stripped. Which I was like, that's what Aiden does. He strips your floors. In a few seasons, that's what he tried to do while you, Big, this episode, Chelsea might be the Rosetta Stone for the rest of Sex and the City, I'm realizing.

[Lauren Garoni]

But Big doesn't care that it's chaotic. He likes it the way it is.

[Chelsea Fairless]

This is obviously a metaphor. It's not just the apartment, it is Carrie herself. But of course, Cari's apartment is a reflection of who she is as a person.

[Lauren Garoni]

But then Big very directly asks her, what was that about the other night? And instead of saying, I farted and went crazy, she lies to him.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I mean, she's like, that was me having a meltdown. And before they can resolve this, he's just like, are there people humping across the street which do it? And humping. Very much 90s sex vernacular that we do not use anymore.

[Lauren Garoni]

I don't like humping, like outside of a canine context. You know, that's fair enough.

[Chelsea Fairless]

But that's the craziest thing about this episode is, is they never acknowledge the fact that they fart. There is no explanation from Big side about why he doesn't have sex with her. They just see this couple fucking and he's like, we can do better. And presumably they then break their own dry spell and have sex.

[Lauren Garoni]

There was an explanation. He was like, I'm tired. Like justice for Big.

[Chelsea Fairless]

He was like, Babe, I have 15 pages left in this Truman biography. I gotta finish it tonight. Night.

[Lauren Garoni]

So how does the episode end exactly?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I mean, he's like, we can do better than that. And then as she says in voiceover, he kissed me.

[Lauren Garoni]

Odd how normal can sometimes feel so uncomfortable.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh yeah, I didn't copy that down in my notes cuz that was such a bad line. I was like, nope.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah, weird, weird way to end. But you know. But clearly she is uncomfortable showing the reality of herself and her body to this man.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Well, as we'll learn in the years to come, I mean, has that same opaqueness when it comes to being a sex columnist.

[Lauren Garoni]

True.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Even with her own friends. I mean, the most we get is that we know the big colors outside the lines.

[Lauren Garoni]

Okay, how many Manolos?

[Chelsea Fairless]

We originally picked this episode because I thought it was going to be a whatever episode. But as I'm discovering in this conversation, like this is where it all begins. I think I have to give it an 8. 8.

[Lauren Garoni]

I was gonna give it 7. It is a good episode. It's a very funny episode. There's not a lot of fashion in the episode, but it is an episode where all of the girls have a lot of screen time, everyone has a plot line, and Mr. Big is more endearing than ever. This is one of the episodes where we fall in love with him.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Which brings us to who is the mvp? I'm gonna say Big for that very reason. He's very even keeled. He's very chill. He is not this emotionally withholding, aloof, emotionally unavailable man that we will know him as in future seasons.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah, I'm with you. I think it's Big because everyone else is a little bit crazy in this episode. He's certainly the most level headed. Who are you voting off of the island of Manhattan?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Siddhartha. There is something sinister about his celibacy.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah, I agree. Agree. He's somehow worse than the construction worker.

[Chelsea Fairless]

And that's not me knocking celibacy. It's just there's something going on there that's not good.

[Lauren Garoni]

Yeah, I agree. Best dressed Carrie. Just because of the David Bowie baby tee.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah, I mean, this isn't a big fashion episode. I mean, our options are Carrie in the David Bowie shirt or Miranda at Blockbuster in the overalls, which is great.

[Lauren Garoni]

But the overalls and puffer coat look was perfected in another episode. Episode.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Absolutely. Best line.

[Lauren Garoni]

What I want is to get laid. What I need is to get laid. I guess that's less about the line and more about the delivery. But it's so good.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I also have that as best line.

[Lauren Garoni]

Who are you?

[Chelsea Fairless]

I'm certainly not Carrie. I feel like I identified in this episode with Charlotte, Miranda and Samantha as they're all dealing with their own feelings about celibacy. And I feel like I've gone through those phases of times of celibacy that was either wanted or unwanted that these three women are dealing with in this episode.

[Lauren Garoni]

I'm definitely Miranda.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Because you've harassed a construction worker who sexually harassed you.

[Lauren Garoni]

I mean, I would yell back at a construction worker. Yes, for sure. And it's nice to see her, like, stand up for herself in that way. Okay, what is your biggest trigger?

[Chelsea Fairless]

It was hard for me to find a trigger, so I just went with the fact that Charlotte's storyline rhymes so much with her Trey storyline kind of bothered me.

[Lauren Garoni]

Right. That's fair.

[Chelsea Fairless]

What about you?

[Lauren Garoni]

Oh, the guy that's like, some people take coffee breaks, I take jerk off breaks.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Him I liked.

[Lauren Garoni]

It reminded me of this story that someone told me about Bill Maher once that is forever burned in my brain. And like, take this with a grain of salt, but I heard a rumor that he has to jack off every four hours. Hours. So he can't do, like a New York to LA flight without jerking off in the bathroom.

[Chelsea Fairless]

He's got to get the poison out, I guess.

[Lauren Garoni]

Imagine what would happen if he didn't jerk off. Those vibes would be really bad.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Oh, what's your hottest take?

[Lauren Garoni]

The fact that all of the girls watch Carrie's neighbors having sex together is really weird. Like, they've also watched gay porn together. They're like a group of, like, boys in middle school with access to Cinemax or something.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Now, you don't think that it's morally wrong that they're watching these two people have sex. You just think it's weird that four heterosexual women are watching a heterosexual couple have sex.

[Lauren Garoni]

True. Because again, these are exhibitionists. These are not just people having sex in the privacy of their own home. These are people who compulsively have sex with the windows open. Open. That is a genre of person, and especially a genre person that stays at the standard Highline hotel.

[Chelsea Fairless]

You know, you don't think people are just Trying to recreate that scene from Shame.

[Lauren Garoni]

That's exactly what they're trying to do.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Okay, so it's not a moral transgression. You just think it's weird that they're doing this, like, go home and masturbate.

[Character Voice/Impersonation]

Okay.

[Lauren Garoni]

Imagine if you and I just sat and watched people have set. Like, just imagine that.

[Chelsea Fairless]

That, I think, and they're like four

[Lauren Garoni]

feet away is the other thing.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I know that doesn't help things, you

[Lauren Garoni]

know, I'm just saying I find that to be strange behavior. It's great for a television show. It's a very funny scene. I just think the reality of that is odd.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. There needed to be a moment where they're like, oh, okay, all right, where should we order from? Or like, let's go out to eat. Because presumably they're staying there for hours.

[Lauren Garoni]

Well, we also know that, like, none of them have had sex, so they're all probably super horny.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Again, as we've spoken about, I think the writers are finding their way. But if this were a season two or three plot line, I think you would have Samantha excuse herself to presumably masturbate. Okay. My hottest take is that Carrie willed Natasha into her life. If Carrie had been a little more chill, was picking up what Big was putting down when he laughed, when she farted, I think he would have shared more of himself with her. She would have definitely known that he was going to Paris potentially. And we've spoken about this concept, like your wife Tatiana has a fear of people vomiting. And because she has this fear, I've never experienced a person who's been around more people vomiting spontaneously.

[Lauren Garoni]

Right.

[Chelsea Fairless]

I have issues around parking. There are always people parking up next to me while I'm in my car. Like, it's the energy you put out there of the thing you don't want most that you bring into your life. And Carrie did this in this episode. If she had just laughed off the fart, dare I say, I think there would be no Natasha.

[Lauren Garoni]

Totally. Because she kind of defined herself as an unlovable slob, you know?

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. Remember those Beano ads?

[Lauren Garoni]

No.

[Chelsea Fairless]

It was an anti gas medication. And I think the commercial, especially at that time in the late 90s, for whatever reason, it was like monks.

[Lauren Garoni]

That must have passed me by.

[Chelsea Fairless]

Yeah. It still exists. Beano is an over the counter dietary supplement that helps your body break down complex carbohydrates in gassy foods like beans, vegetables and whole grains.

[Lauren Garoni]

Oh, no, Lauren's doing another ad read. Okay, well, this has been fun.

[Chelsea Fairless]

This has been very fun. We need to go and figure out exactly what makes this Fendi baguette a new Fendi baguette.

[Lauren Garoni]

And we will be back next week.

[Chelsea Fairless]

All right. Bye, guys. Bye.