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For over a century, companies have tried to invent the next great way to listen to music or watch movies. Some became household standards that were the foundation of multi billion dollar industries. Others became expensive mistakes, technological dead ends or punchlines in the history of consumer electronics. And some were so inconsequential that most people never even realized that they existed. Learn more about failed physical media formats and the battles behind them on on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. This episode is sponsored by Drip Drop. I've started walking every day and going to the gym because you gotta do something to counteract having a podcaster bod. Whenever I'm done, I'll drink a glass of water with dry drip drops. Zero sugar. Plus it has six key electrolytes, 15 essential vitamins and nutrients and no sugar or artificial sweeteners. And it also comes in multiple flavors. After you workout or exert yourself, you need to replenish electrolytes. 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It's shocking just how many different formats companies have developed for listening to music and watching videos. Most of the successful formats you know of, as well as a few of the unsuccessful ones. Yet there were a staggering number of formats developed that ultimately went nowhere. Some of them were just technologies ahead of their time, some were too expensive and others just weren't very good. In fact, there are so many that I couldn't possibly cover them all. So for the purpose of this episode, I'm only going to cover media formats for music and video, not computer data storage. That's a separate thing. Also, the term failed is a bit ambiguous, so I'm not covering anything that was the dominant media format for any period. That means that vinyl records, reel to reel tapes, cassette tapes, vhs, DVD and Blu Ray will not be included. So with that, let's get started on one you've probably never heard of. The first consumer video recording system, Cartavision. Cartavision was an early home video cassette system introduced in 1972, well before VHS and Betamax. It was built into large console televisions and allowed users to record TV programs while also offering pre recorded feature films for rental, making it one of the first consumer movie rental formats. Adjusted for inflation, the system cost around $10,000. Its rental tapes had a primitive copy protection system. They could be played but not rewound at home, so they had to be returned after viewing. The system was expensive, bulky and short lived and it disappeared after about a year as sales failed to take off. Oddly enough, in 2013, the lost Game 5 of the 1973 NBA Championship was found on a Cartavision tape. Recovering it was so difficult that a documentary was made about it. Another media format that achieved some limited popularity in the 1970s was the eight track tape. The eight track tape came to be because it solved a very specific problem, how to bring recorded music into a car. There had been attempts to create in car record players and tape systems, but they were awkward, fragile or unreliable. The breakthrough came from the endless loop tape cartridge. Instead of threading the tape between reels like a reel to reel machine, the tape was packed inside a plastic cartridge and played continuously. You could shove it into a dashboard player, hear music instantly and not worry about flipping sides. The format was partially developed by Bill Lear, the same Lear behind Learjet who worked with earlier cartridge designs and helped standardize the eight track system in the mid-1960s. Its big commercial break came when Ford began offering eight track players and cars. I actually hesitated putting eight track tapes on this list because they were actually popular for a little while. I distinctly remember people buying and using them when I was really young. But the format had built in weaknesses. Because the tape was an endless loop, it was prone to stretching, tangling and wearing out. You could not easily rewind it, and fast forwarding was possible on some players. But really imprecise songs sometimes had to be awkwardly split between tracks, meaning a song might fade out, the machine would click, and then the song would fade back in. It was soon replaced by the cassette tape, which quickly improved in quality. The cassette tape was smaller, more durable and became insanely popular with the release of the Sony Walkman. I'll briefly give a mention to the Sony Betamax tape, but only briefly because I previously did an entire episode on the competition between VHS and Betamax. I'll just mention that the standard story about Betamax being a superior format isn't quite true. VHS won because it offered something consumers valued more than anything else. Recording length. During the period where both VHS and Betamax were vying for market supremacy, RCA introduced its own video format, which was an expensive, total disaster. RCA's Selectavision Selectavision was one of the most expensive and embarrassing failures in the history of consumer electronics. The name was used for a few RCA video projects, but it's best remembered for the CED or Capacitance Electronic Disk System. It was a home video format that stored movies on a grooved vinyl like disc which were read by a stylus rather than a laser. The disc came sealed in large plastic caddies so the user never handled the disc directly. You inserted the Caddy into the player, the machine pulled the disc out and the empty Caddy came back out to you. The basic idea was to create a cheaper alternative to videotape. In the 1970s, VCRs were still expensive and RCA believed that there would be a large market for a lower cost device that could play pre recorded movies at home. However, the system suffered from a fatal timing problem. RCA spent well over a decade developing it and by the time Selectavision finally reached the market in 1981, VHS and Betamax had already established themselves. Unlike a VCR, Selectavision could not record television programs, which was one of the biggest reasons people bought home video machines in the first place. The most amazing thing about selectavision was the fact that it even worked. There are some videos on YouTube that show it in Action. And the quality is better than you might think for something that was basically playing video from a vinyl disc, just like a record. RCA discontinued Selectavision in 1984, only three years after its launch. The company reportedly lost hundreds of millions of dollars on the project. In hindsight, it's a classic example of a company solving yesterday's problems. RCA had built a clever way to play movies at home, but it arrived after consumers had already decided that they wanted to record timeshift, rent, and eventually own movies on videotape. Another videodisc technology that never quite made it big was LaserDisc. LaserDisc was one of the most fascinating almost success stories in home video history. First introduced commercially in the late 1970s by MCA, Philips and Pioneer, it was an optical disc format that stored video on large 12 inch discs, roughly the size of vinyl records. Unlike VHS or Betamax, which used magnetic tape, LaserDisc was read with a laser, making it a forerunner of later optical formats such as DVD and Blu Ray. But it should be noted that despite using a laser, it was analog, not digital. Its great strength was quality. Laserdisc offered better picture and sound than vhs. And it became especially popular with serious film fans, collectors and home theater enthusiasts. It was also the format that helped introduce many features that later became standard on DVDs, including widescreen editions, director's commentary, bonus features, alternate audio tracks, and high quality special editions. For people who cared about movies as movies, laserdisc was far ahead of videotape. There were also digital formats that failed as well. One of the best known failed formats was digital audio tape or dat. Digital audio tape was introduced by Sony in the late 1980s as a high quality digital successor to analog cassette tapes. It used small cassette like cartridges, but unlike ordinary cassettes, it recorded sound digitally. The audio quality was excellent, often at or above CD quality, and the tapes were compact, durable, and capable of making very clean recordings. Technically, digital audio tape was impressive. It used a rotating head system similar to a video recorder, allowing it to store a large amount of digital information on a narrow strip of tape. Because of this, digital audio tape became popular in professional settings, especially in recording studios, radio, film production, and live concert recordings. For musicians and engineers, it was a convenient way to make digital master recordings. Before hard drives became common, Its problem was the consumer market. The music industry was deeply worried that digital audio tape would allow people to make perfect digital copies of CDs. So there were political and legal fights over copy protection. This delayed adoption led to restrictions such as the serial Copy Management system, which limited digital copying at the same time, digital audio tape machines were expensive and most ordinary listeners had little reason to replace CDs or cassettes with another tape based format. Another failed Sony format was the MiniDisc. MiniDisc was Sony's early 1990s attempt to replace both cassette tapes and the CD. It used a small magneto optical disc housed in a protective plastic cartridge, making it much tougher and more portable than a compact disc. Users could record, erase, rearrange tracks, title songs, and make clean digital copies within limits of Sony's copy protection rules. In many ways, it was what people had always wanted. Cassettes to small, durable, recordable and easy to edit. The format had real benefits. It was popular with journalists, musicians, students and audio hobbyists because portable minidisc recorders were excellent for field recording. In Japan, it actually did become a major consumer format, especially for portable music. Sony later improved the system with better compression, longer recording modes and eventually high md, which increased storage capacity and allowed use as a disc for computer data. But many disks struggled in the wider global market because it arrived at an awkward time. CDs were already cheap and dominant. Recordable CDs had become common, and then MP3 players made the whole idea of carrying physical music seem outdated. Sony also hurt the format with the same mistake it made with digital audio tape. It built in excessively restrictive software and copy controls, making it less convenient than simply dragging MP3 files onto a player. MiniDisc wasn't a bad format. It was a clever, durable near success that got trapped between the CD era and the ipod era. There were also several failed attempts at digital audio formats that were of higher quality than regular CDs. DVD audio was a high resolution audio format introduced in the year 2000 as a possible successor to the compact disc. It used DVD discs to store music at a much higher quality than standard CDs, often with surround sound mixes as well as stereo tracks. For audiophiles, it offered impressive sound and more storage capacity than a regular CD. Whereas CDs use 16 bit samples at a 44.1Khz sample rate, DVD audio could use up to 24 bit samples and a rate as high as 192kHz. I actually own several DVD audio discs that I purchased way back then. There is a definite improvement in audio quality, but it's rather subtle and you need the right equipment to really hear it. I recently put one in my Blu Ray player and it worked fine. However, DVD audio was released at the same time as another high quality audio format, Super Audio Compact Disc or sacd. SACD was created by Philips and Sony, the same companies that developed the compact disc standard. SACD took a wholly new approach to digital Music. Instead of 16 or 24 bit samples, SACD used one bit samples, each one represented up on the sound wave and each zero represented down. However, it did this one bit sampling at a rate of over 2.8 MHz. SACD also offered a multilayer disk with a regular CD layer and an SACD layer. The problem with both SACD and DVD audio is that both of these high end audio formats appeared in the Marketplace right when MP3s and Napster were peaking in popularity. This turned out to be the replacement for CDs, not higher quality discs. There is an odd twist to the story, however. SACD never became a mainstream replacement for the compact disc, but it also didn't completely disappear. It survived as a niche audiophile in classical music format where sound quality mattered more than portability or convenience. A reasonable estimate is that the market now sees roughly 500 to 700 new SACD titles per year worldwide. A large number of these are classical titles primarily sold in Japan. They also don't have very large print runs, so they can be hard to find and are often sold at a premium. Some people say that every physical media format is now obsolete as everything is available online via streaming. However, that's not totally true. There has been an uptick in physical media sales over the last few years as people are now realizing that music and movies are not always available on streaming services. There are even limited numbers of new 8 track and reel to reel tapes that are still being released mainly to hobbyists. It is highly likely that there might never be a new physical media format. Current sales are too small to justify investments in new formats and the old formats, well, they're good enough. The executive producer of Everything Everywhere Daily is Charles Daniel. The associate producers are Austin Otkin and Cameron Kiefer. My big thanks go to everyone who supports the show over on Patreon. Your support helps make this podcast possible and I also want to remind everyone about the community groups on Facebook and Discord. That's where everything happens that's outside the podcast and links to those are available in the show notes. 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Episode: Failed Physical Media Formats
Host: Gary Arndt
Release Date: May 19, 2026
In this episode, host Gary Arndt dives into the colorful world of failed physical media formats for music and video. He explores the stories behind these ambitious, quirky, or ill-timed technologies, explaining why some never caught on despite their promise—while others became beloved by niche audiences. Through vivid anecdotes and technical insights, Gary charts the rise and fall of a range of formats from the obscure Cartavision to the near-miss of the LaserDisc, all the way to esoteric high-resolution audio discs. This episode is a tour of innovation, commercial miscalculation, and nostalgia for the age when music and movies came with tangible hardware.
On RCA’s CED System:
“The most amazing thing about Selectavision was the fact that it even worked.” (16:58)
On LaserDisc Features:
“It was also the format that helped introduce many features that later became standard on DVDs, including widescreen editions, director's commentary, bonus features, alternate audio tracks, and high quality special editions.” (20:06)
On DAT’s Consumer Failure:
“Most ordinary listeners had little reason to replace CDs or cassettes with another tape based format.” (24:48)
On MiniDisc’s Niche Status:
“Portable MiniDisc recorders were excellent for field recording.” (27:23)
On SACD’s Odd Longevity:
“It survived as a niche audiophile and classical music format where sound quality mattered more than portability or convenience.” (34:40)
Gary Arndt’s episode on failed media formats skillfully illuminates both the innovation and miscalculation that drove physical media’s evolution. Through detailed examples and his signature concise storytelling, listeners come away appreciating not just the formats that won, but the fascinating failures that paved the road to our digital present—a must-listen for anyone curious about the history of tech, media, and cultural change.