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Choosing State Farm for your coverage because at State Farm they'll help you choose the right coverage at an affordable price with the State Farm Personal Price Plan so you can feel good about all the decisions you make, including finding a valet and and handing over your keys. So talk to a State Farm agent today to learn how you can choose to bundle and save with the Personal price Plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings and eligibility vary by state. Hello everyone and welcome to Everything Iconic with me, Danny Collegrino. Woo this week's Summer house. I mean, a staggering, jaw dropping, mind blowing, unexpected, surprising, startling, disturbing, alarming, unsettling, jarring, horrifying, appalling, Honestly, insane, truly chaotic, borderline offensive. Actually, more than borderline offensive. Just truly not okay. I was not prepared. And of course, I'm referring to Jesse Solomon calling Bailey Bale of Hay. That's right. I'm kidding, of course. But that was upsetting to me was the fact that Jesse Solomon gave Bailey a nickname and it was Bale of Hay. Could you imagine if somebody called you Baila Hay on camera? I would electric chair. I would electric chair them because that's not acceptable. And obviously there was more intense things going on. I mean, I'm really fired up because the west of it all, I hate to say it, but him, Amanda. I mean, it started off this episode and I had heard it was a doozy of an episode. So everybody's been talking about, oh, Andy Cohen was on his radio show. He's like, oh, just wait till you see this episode. And you know, sometimes he hypes it up and you're thinking, oh, this is going to be a bad one. But then it turned out to be actually really enlightening and troubling because it opened, the episode was almost like bookend by these two demons. Amanda just sitting with Sierra at the beginning of the episode saying, you are seen. I see you. You're so loved and so important. You deserve so much respect and so much more respect than you get. And I'm like, you know what? You need to shut the. You know what up. I'm trying not to swear at the beginning of the episode. I'm trying to keep it clean. It's like, feel like I swear a lot. I know a lot of people always say that, and they do mark the episodes as explicit. But recently I've come to the attention of these nuns that do a podcast. Have you guys heard of the nuns that do the podcast? I see their clips on TikTok all the time. I forget what their name of their podcast is, but they were on like the Today show too, talking about it. And I've become sort of obsessed with them. And, you know, I have a complicated relationship with religion. I was born and raised Catholic and went to Catholic grade school and everything. And then once I was gay, it was kind of hard to recognize or practice because said you were a demon going to hell if you're gay. And so that was troubling. And I look back at my time in the Catholic school and there's good and bad. But anyway, the point is, I have started embracing it again because of these nuns on TikTok, because they are basically doing like a gay podcast because it's just one nun hosting, and then she has her sisters on, and anytime they talk about anything like, sister, yes. And I be sister, yes. Yes, Sister, Sister, yes. And they are having the best time. And I'm thinking, do I need to become a nun Now? I know I don't think it's possible or probable, but it has made me want to maybe clean up the act here on the podcast. But then. So that's what I. That's the kind of mood and energy and vibe I was going into podcasting this week. I was thinking I was going to come on here and support all my sisters and just shout on the microphone, sister, yes. Sister, yes. Sister, yes, yes. I thought I was going to support my sisters. And then I come on the podcast. The rest of these sisters on this show, west and Amanda and all these other people, I am so mad at, because again, it was bookend. It was like Amanda being demon at the beginning of the episode. Then it was west being a demon at the end of the episode. I mean, that conversation at the end, just diabolical. Diabolical. And look, I was sort of of the opinion that I thought, okay, Sierra and Wes hadn't been together in a while. Like, maybe, maybe everybody collectively is overreacting to this. But people are calling it so many different nicknames. The scandal with west and Amanda, people are calling it Scamanda, I think, or west side. West side Story. Is that one, or. I don't know. People are getting real creative. Wild, Wild west, people goes West. What was that movie? Fifal. What was that movie about the mice? A lot of movies about mice that happened when I was a child. And I blame Mickey. Anyway, that's not the point. The point is they were just being diabolical to Sierra's face this whole episode. Like, the two of them, Amanda at the beginning and then west at the end. I mean, for Amanda to open. Sierra was so upset at the end of last week's episode. And for Amanda to just be sitting there like, you are seen. I get you. She was basically saying, sister, yes. And then behind her back, she was doing some other crazy nonsense. Sister, yes. My podcasting sisters, My podcasting sisters, the nuns that I see on TikTok, they would not do that to another sister. And so, Amanda, you need to go find Jesus, perhaps, and you go to that convent and just ask them for some advice, because you need the Holy Spirit with You and so does West. West needs more than the Holy Spirit. He needs to be doused in holy water. Anyway, fuck them. I said I was going to swear. But see that's where we are. That's where I can't help it because I'm so mad at those two Rotten hill. Ok, let me get all that anger out. But they all. At the beginning of the episode, Amanda has that conversation. Truly diabolical. I don't know what else to say about it other than like I can't even believe that she was such a horrific friend to be sitting there. And it just makes me feel like she's just not a good human being. And I don't think west is a good human being. And I don't care if you fall. There's no way they could have just so fallen in love. Like in other situations I can maybe be like maybe they unexpectedly west and Amanda fell in love. They didn't want it to happen, but it happened. But those two, Yach. I don't believe there's anything sincere bone in their bodies. They're just going to the bars and stuff. That's not real love. That's just fucking around. That's not a real. I don't even buy it as a real relationship. So it's like you screwed over your friend Sierra for what? For West. Smelly ass. I'm pissed. And they all. Speaking of smelly ass. I did hear this week there's this rumor going around and again it's just a rumor. So this is all alleged. But the alleged rumor is that when they say we need to go shower, what they're talking about is cocaine. And I don't believe it. I just want to be on record because I was perhaps accidentally the one who started the rumor about the cocaine pasta on Vanderpump Rules years ago and that was actually my fault. I was quoted in Newsweek because it was an accidental rumor that I started because I had heard that rumor and then it spread and I didn't mean for it to spread and then it became a big thing. But I don't think that was true. And I don't think that the showering thing is true when they say gotta go shower. But I do like the. I do like the kind of Easter eggy thing of watching a show like this. And then when you hear them say shower, does that mean they're going to the bathroom to privately do cocaine? I don't know. Who's to say? I like that. I like that. Maybe it's gossip, but I like it. Okay, so then they all get ready to go out to Kyle's DJ night, and we see a bunch of footage from the cell phone. Here's the thing. If Kyle's gonna dj, I think one of the things that when you. When he does the DJ things, and I'm pretty sure he's talked about this on the show as well, but it's like he can in the contract perhaps say it would be great if the bar is Gary loverboy for the event or, you know, so it's kind of like a two for one. They pay him for the DJ and then they carry the lover boy. He brings a lot of people into the club, but I don't understand, like, why, when he's doing the contract, or why Bravo when he's doing the contract, can't say to the club or the owners of the establishment that he's DJing in, hey, if you want Kyle Cook to DJ here, you're gonna need to let a spring camera crew in to film it. Because they keep saying, oh, they can't film in these places in Hamptons or wherever. It's like, well, what the fuck? How come? Why are they letting him DJ then? If he's bringing all these people to the dance floor, then so let him bring the camera crew to the dance floor too. It's like, why do we got all this grainy cell phone footage of Kyle Cook DJing? And Amanda was behind the booth and like, get the out of here. I was like, get out. Get out. I was so mad. I was so mad. I'm trying, okay? I'm trying to keep it positive. Let's keep it moving. So let's keep it moving. Let's keep it moving on. That's Lala. Okay? Then they all get home at 1:20 in the morning, drunk. And Sabrina was. Okay, I hate. I also said last week on the podcast that I was going to be supportive of Sabrina because she's from my hometown and I have to support my Ohio brethren. But unfortunately, I cannot support her all the time because she's a little aggressive when she's just trying to be so in with the crowd. And I get it. Like we've. I say this with the realization that, like, I've been there before too, girl, but you can't just be so up everyone's ass because she's up everyone's ass. She's. She's right on up there. She might as well just put a no parking sign up in somebody's ass and park her ass there. Does that make sense? I don't even think that's a proper metaphor. But do you know what I'm trying to say? She's up everyone's ass because she got home, they're all drunk at 1:30 in the morning. She's like, life is so wonderful. We're so lucky. And I'm like, sabrina, get out of everybody's ass and start clocking the T sis. Because there's lots of stuff going around you. And so if you want to be integrated into this group, then maybe you need to start clocking the tsis. In the words of many advertisements that feature gay people. Clock that thesis because you're in the mix now. And so if you want to be in the mix further, farther, further, then you're going to need to start looking around you and start clocking it because there's plenty of people are now wondering the timeline of the scandal with west and Amanda. And maybe if Sabrina would stop trying to be up everyone's ass, she could have clocked that T for us. But she didn't. She's up everyone's ass. And again, we love you, Sabrina. And I've been there before too, girl. You know, you see a new group of friends, you like everybody. You're like, ah, I gotta get in with these guys. And so you're just sitting around, you're giving them affirmations like, we're so blessed. This is so wonderful. Look at us. Life is wonderful. And it's like, actually, Sabrina, I need you to be a little more pessimistic. You could start clocking the tee and not trying to be up everyone's ass. Anyway, moving on. We do love Sabrina, though. I'm rooting for her. A lot of people got mad at me last week because I didn't talk about her insane boots that she was wearing. And sometimes it's like, sometimes visually, there's a lot going on in these shows and you almost like you're getting so much at once. Like, I was thinking about it this week. There was a cardboard cut out of Levy Levi. Why do I always want to call her Levy Levi? There was a cardboard cut out by the door of Levi. And I was thinking, like, it's so absurd. This cast member that was edited out of the episodes. She's appearing more in cardboard cutout form than she is in person. In the Hamptons and the Weeknd, like, they cut her out from the show. They're not even like inviting her to the share house anymore. She's not even there. And you would think production would step in and be like, hey, we're cutting Levi out of these episodes. We're not even inviting her anymore because she's not giving anything to the show. You would think that a PA or someone would be like, hey, should we remove the cardboard cut out of her then? Because otherwise the audience might be confused why she's just. There's a cardboard gal at the door. And, like, nobody knows who the fuck that is, because we're editing her out of the episodes and not even giving her a confessional. So it's like, who's this random woman? And so sometimes. The point is, sometimes we're so overloaded by the visuals that we can't even. We can't even take it in. We can't even breathe it in. So when Sabrina had those boots last week, and it was, I think, boots and a choker or something, I can't even. A certain point, like, my eyes just glaze over, and I can't. I can't tell what's going on. I don't even know what's happening because I'm trying to focus on 100 things that are happening on screen, and I'm getting the whiplash. I'm getting the old Roni whiplash. Okay, where we at here? So, yeah, we got Sabrina. We talked. Kyle snuggles in next to Amanda, and he's like, thank you for coming to my DJ event, and I love you. Oh, you guys broke my heart. And ordinarily, if before the west and Amanda of it all, before Amanda was being so sneaky and diabolical with Sierra, then I would have been on Amanda's side, and I've been like, look at Kyle, just, like, getting drunk, snuggling up to his wife, and so wasted. I would have been like, oh, that's so embarrassing. And then now I'm looking at it like, God, poor Kyle, like, snuggles up and says thank you and I love you, and. And she's doing sneaky stuff behind his back. They're saying the timeline. They're saying west gave this podcast interview of his podcast, and I don't know if anybody saw it. He has his own podcast, I guess, but he put his, like, sleeves over his hands. You know how little kids do that? They put their sleeves over. And he was, like, acting like a. Like my son, a little toddler or something. But he put his sleeves over his hand. He's, like, covering his mouth, and he's like, you know, we didn't get together or didn't get more serious until February. First of all, he says, like, more serious. Which is like, what the fuck does that? And then he's saying, it's February, but I'm like, I don't buy it. I do not buy it. And I know we're going to get to the bottom of the timeline at the reunion, but I can see for my own self, like, I have eyes. I think sometimes they think these Bravo liberties think that they could get away with stuff because they're like, oh, people don't have eyes. And I want to shout to them, no, we all have eyes. I just hope they know that going forward. Maybe not all of us, but for the most part, I'd say 99% of us have eyes. Certainly if you're watching Bravo, you got eyes. I mean, maybe some people are watching it, you know, with closed captioning on or something, but. But for the most part, everybody could see that you're, like, flirting and touching each other and all that kind of stuff. And so I have eyes, West. And so I'm not buying you saying, oh, it didn't happen in February. It didn't have enough February. And then we did it. February, Rotten Hill. I get so mad. These men. These men think they can get away with everything on this show, on this network, even. The only one I trust is this kj. I do like KJ a lot. I'm concerned that I'm not gonna like him at some point. Him and Dara. I'm Dara the explorer. I'm a little concerned because they're already getting very serious in the relationship and everybody else is saying, like, maybe, hey, slow it down. Pump the brakes and slow it down because they're going a little fast. KJ and Dara, they just met a couple weeks ago. She was interested in Ben for a minute, was in his room for an hour, according to Baila pay. And then also before that, she was interested in Wes. So I don't trust her picker. And I'm concerned that she's gonna. I don't know. I keep saying that every single week about Dara. Maybe she's surprised us. I hope she surprises us. Also, Mia's having a dream about the parents, and she's going to get the meet with the medium or whatever. Meanwhile, Carl's getting bagels and McDonald's together. The other day I went to my workout class and my. They were giving away free bagels, and it was just nice. I have to say that it kind of ruined the whole class because it's like whatever calories I burned during the workout class. And, you know, unfortunately, that's the way my millennial disordered eating brain works is like comparing calories to the workout, you know? But I do have to say I. You know, I often do my Barry's bootcamp workout, which is a workout class. It's very intense. It's half treadmill, half lifting weights. And I've been doing it on and off since my 20s. Like, it really. And when I'm doing it regularly, it's like, that's when I'm. I feel like my mental health is the best and clearest, and I feel comfortable in my body and all that kind of stuff. But recently, I was having, like. I thought it was knee problems, but it was, like, my joints above the knee. So I had my yearly physical the. A few days ago, go to the doctor, and I'm like, hey, Doc. You know, I just. He's like, anything you want me to look at or anything. Any problems, any issues you're having? I'm like, yeah, you know, like, around my knees. And he's like, oh, that's your joints. And I was like, oh, okay, so it's not my knee. And I was like, you know, it's just really intense sometimes getting up from a chair or holding my son or, you know, like, any basic activity. I was like, I'm noticing both of my joints there. I'm having trouble with. Even get. Just basic getting up from a couch. I'm feeling. It's, like, tender, and it doesn't feel great. I was like, so what do we. You know, what do we do? And I'm, like, thinking he's gonna say, well, maybe you have to have surgery or here's a pill. Or, like, I'm expecting him to give me some fix. And he's like, well, what do you do for exercise? And I was like, well, I do these workout sprints and stuff. I like to run. And he's like, yeah, well, you know, you're maybe too old for that now. I'm like, beg your pardon? And he's basically telling me, like, essentially saying, like, hey, you're. You're too old to be doing sprints now. I had this, like, total, like, meltdown afterwards, like, just in my. Like, I couldn't stop thinking about it at night. I was just, like, thinking, oh, my God, like, what. What's going on? But it's a sign of aging. He's like, yeah, when you're, you know, you get older, you got to be careful with your joints. And so he's basically said there was no quick fix. He's like, you're Just too old to run now. He's like, you could do a slow run. He's like, you should maybe just start walking or maybe a nice jog, but like sprints on a treadmill. He's like, you probably shouldn't be doing that. And I'm like, oh, fuck, there goes my mental health. Fuck. Fuck. Anyway, let's keep it moving. So let's keep it moving. So, yeah, Carl. Did I mention he got all that breakfast? I was happy for him. Carl's basically just the house mom and I'm okay with that. And I was certain that Carl was gonna be fired from this show, but now I just want him to stick around. Like, you know how sororities and fraternities, they have like the house mom or do fraternities have that? I don't know. I never did a fraternity. Although I did wake up in a few frat houses. Ladies, am I right? Who hasn't been there? But I think, do they have a house? Anyway, I know the sororities have a house mom, because of course I remember in house Bunny Beverly d' Angelo and Anna Faris. And of course I remember the lore of that, but that's not the point. The point is I think Carl could be that for Summer House. Like, I don't even need him to get in the mix. Like, I'm fine if he's just waking up getting everyone some bagels. And I said that weird. Bagels, bagels, and that's it. And then go in for a run. It's fine with me. Then Dara tells Sierra that west got wasted the night before and could only talk about Sierra. And Sierra's like, I want to be good with West. And she's got a gut reaction about him, though. And this is a good sign because mid episode when she was saying she, like, she's scared of west but she wants to be good with him, it was like that was her gut. That was the gut reaction saying, like, no, stay away from this man. He's a demon and he needs to rot in hell for an eternity. I'm sorry, I shouldn't say that on the microphone. I'm sorry. I don't really mean that he should rot in hell for an eternity. Sisters, Sisters. I'm sorry for saying that, sister. Yes, but you do need to trust your gut. And Dara's also doing too much. Her and Sabrina both need to take a chill the fuck out class in the off time in the weekday during their non filming schedule. Because I feel like both of them are. They're getting I want them to get in the mix, but it's almost like I think I just feel protective of like, Bailey and Levi because they were actually cast on this show and they're not getting in the mix. And then here come these other two. So I think it's actually on me. I think I'm just. I'm feeling like a deep loyalty to those other two and I don't know why. It's because I root for the underdog. Then we cut to west and Sierra. West apologizes. And his apology is so such a stupid ass apology. He's like, yeah, I don't feel good about it at all. I don't feel good. I'm personally really bummed because on a friendship level, things were okay. I hope I didn't fuck up the rest of the summer. And then he just walks away. I'm like, how about you shut the fuck up? God, so mad at him. I'm so mad at that man. So mad at that man. Sierra, though, says she this is why she doesn't want to be friends. She's like, it's best if we're not friends. And then west, before he actually leaves the room, he's like, well, I'm not great at articulating myself a lot. It's like, no shit, no shit. Finally says something truthful is that he's not going to articulate himself. No shit, you dummy. Then they all leave for the weekend. And this is when Jesse calls Bailey big old bale of hay. And she's like, don't call me that. And look, Bailey justice for Bailey and big old Baila. Hey. If somebody called me big old Baila, Hey. And people friends that I'm just meeting and it's like, that's the nickname they gave me because, you know, she's trying to be in with the friend group too. She's trying to get. She's doing her best on this show. And then somebody's calling her big old big ass bale of hay. Then we got to end of the city. Sierra and Mia meet with Mia's brother Nick. And when Mia and the brother Nick show up, Sierra's like, you guys are a cute couple. And I'm like, they look identical, girl. Like, I. Oh, my gosh. And they said, they said they were close, but I'm like, that always weird, your brother and sister. It always kind of weirds me out when they're too close. I don't know. I don't know. And I don't have a sister, so I don't know. I Mean, except for my nun sisters. Sister, yes. But Mia and her brother Nick. It was like for Sierra to say, you guys are a cute couple. I just. I said they. I was like, that's not. This is not it. Anyway, they're close. They're going to medium and then they go to this medium. And she knows about the dreams that Mia's been having. Mom's. Mia's mom says she's been coming in the dreams and look, I don't know how any of this works. It's it. But I do believe it. And so unfortunately, I have to say that, like, I want to be someone who's like, not believing in people who are able to communicate with the dead, but that's just not who I am. I'm just unfortunately am someone who believes that people can dance with the spirits. You know, I do think that. Is that a saying? Dancing with the spirits. Hope you dance with the spirits. In the words of the Leanne Womack remake that I'm currently writing inside of my head right now. I hope you dance with the spirits anyway then. But I also love. I have to say I love Mia and I love that Mia's being open and honest and vulnerable on the show. I think she's a good reality star and I'm excited for her future and I'm happy that she was able to connect with the mom because again, I believe that. And if give you peace and some closure. I support that. Then we cut to west at an adoption event and I like that he. I would normally be so proud of Wes for having this dog adoption event. I think it's great. All these dogs were going to get euthanized. Is that the term? And so he was doing this adoption event and bringing to the show Kyle and Amanda show up. Amanda also, like, hugged Wes for like an absurd amount of time in this scene. Did anyone notice that? I didn't. I don't know if they paused it or something, but it felt like an aggressive amount of time for Amanda to be hugging West. I did not care for it and I clocked it. I clocked it. And so I will not accept it. I will not accept it. Let's take a break here, though, then we're going to come back and we're going to drag west to hell and try to keep things positive, though. And have I been. I've been swearing, haven't I? I'm sorry. But we'll be right back. Find me on social media at Danny Pellegrino. Thank you to Acasta. We'll be Back in a minute. We all know your pet runs your life. You wake up, you immediately check on them, you plan your day around them, and somehow you find that they surprise you. They do something completely chaotic. They eat something they shouldn't. They jump off something way too high. Which brings me to a quick message from today's sponsor, the ASPCA Pet Health Insurance Program. Because you love your pets, you would do anything for them. 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If that was happening to me, could you imagine? I don't even give a flying. Like, if Matt and I were getting divorced and I had to watch TV show where I was delivering his mistress or what do you call a male. Is it male? Mistress. We're just going to call him mistress. If he was some dude and I saw footage of me bringing that dude that he was a drink, I would. Matt would have to be. I would. I'd have to be locked up. I'd be locked up because there's no way. I would be, like, livid. And so for Kyle to have to watch that back. I have never been more livid on behalf of Kyle, because that's disgusting. It's just delivering him a beer. Excuse me. Excuse me while you're. Amanda, no, because I do believe they were at that. If nothing else, they were having an inappropriate relationship, in my opinion. So maybe they weren't exactly that moment, but they were spiritually. And so Kyle delivering them drinks. And then Kyle, like, so nicely just scooted away and was like, okay, I'm gonna go back and, like, and help people adopt dogs. Like, while you two are developing your relationship behind everybody's back, I'm gonna go get some dogs that are about to be killed. Adopted. Like, are you kidding me? Could anyone be more devilish than west and Amanda? Absolutely not. Go help some dogs get adopted. Like, shut the fuck up talking to each other and go adopt some dogs. Get your ass in there. And then west even made a joke later in the episode. He's like, I adopted a dog. And then Kyle's like, oh, really? Or someone's like, oh, really? And Wes like, no. And I was like, you know what? That put me over the edge. Rotten Hill put me over the edge. Don't joke about adopting a dying dog from the adoption center that you threw the event at. Instead of helping people adopt dogs, you're just out there talking. Amanda, get the fuck out. How about you? Get the fuck out? Okay, so then. No, I'm trying to keep it positive. Okay. Then we cut to Scott. He's coming in for the weekend. Only for a day, though, which was upsetting to me. Like, I was happy that he was filming with Mia. Scott is Mia's husband or boyfriend or whatever, and he's getting in the car to go for. But he only went for one day. And I was thinking, what a nightmare to have to drive all that way because it's like four hours or something. And then you're only filming for one time, but it's his first weekend. He's like, I'm a guy's guy. I'm excited to hang out with the guys. And Mia's like, ew. Then we cut to Kyle says, Amanda not showing up for the weekend because she's on the struggle bus. And I was like, what? She's struggling? The fact that she's fucking West? Is that what she's struggling with? Allegedly. That's how I feel. Then Sierra and Mia pull KJ Aside to talk about Dara and how it's moving too fast. Sierra's like, don't rush the process. And they say KJ Is younger than Dara the explorer. And look, I'm worried too. They have the same worry that I have. Meanwhile, Sierra calls Amanda, who was napping back at home. She's not coming for the weekend. And she was napping and seven. That for this weekend, there's seven boys and three girls. And I'm thinking, well, Sierra's like, amanda, there's only three girls here this weekend. It's like, well, why the fuck didn't anyone invite Bailey or Levi? Like, why? Where are they? Why couldn't they come? I'm sure they didn't have anything else going on. Like, we can't have Bailey. Their clown justice for Bailey. Amanda says that she's too overwhelmed to go out there. I was a little distracted by Sierra having the shoes on the bed. I'm on fully team Sierra this season. However, I cannot excuse that because she had some dirty shoes on that bed. And we've already talked about her messy room. And she's done this before. A few of them have. And the idea of I don't even. Like, I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but, like, I don't even like my outside clothes. Phoebe Robinson wrote a book with this title. It's like, don't sit on my bed with your outside clothes on. It was something like that, But I agree with that sentiment. It's like, I don't even want to get on my bed if I'm in my outside clothes. Like, if I go to the store, if I'm heading up to whole foods or wherever, then when I get home and if I need to lay on the bed, like, I absolutely am not just gonna sit on the bed in my outside clothes. Like, that, to me, is, like, one of the most crazy things ever. Like, what do you mean you're just sitting on the bed? I don't care for it. And especially with the dirty shoe and from New York. Like, they're in New York City. And you mean to tell. I don't know. I don't feel safe then. But I am on team Sierra and the fact that she's FaceTime with Amanda, and it's like, God, you're just. Amanda's playing in your face. Playing in the face. And then west comes in while Sierra's on the phone with Amanda. I have the chills even talking about this while she's on the phone. Amanda's literally on FaceTime. And I think west or somebody says, like, just keep her on. And so she's listening to this conversation. And west goes up to Sierra's like, after a week, I'm pretty bummed about it. So I wanted to apologize. And it's not even a real apology. Like, give a good apology. Like, what the are you doing? This lame ass apology. But Sierra says she doesn't hate him. She's exhausted because she's pretending she does. And so she really wants to make it make up with Wes because she doesn't like being mad at him because she wants to be close with him. And they keep telling us it happened later in the episode, but they keep telling us how much closer Wes and Sierra were than anyone ever realizes. They're both saying that. So it's like even in moments where you might want to get behind west and Amanda in some sort of way, every week they're just telling us, like, oh, actually, west and Sierra. Which makes it all the more diabolical. It's like so fucked up. Meanwhile, the cardboard cutout of Levi is just by that door, killing me, just making me laugh. Then there's cell phone footage of their night out. They arrive back at 2:49am 2:49am getting back home. I don't know how sober Carl's doing it, but Kyle says he's finally feeling like himself because his wife's not there. And that was terrible. But also that's like the, that's like the aha moment, right? The aha moment for Kyle, I think is like, oh, I'm having so much fun without my wife here. And then Kyle pulls Ben aside and Kyle apologized at like 4am apologized to Ben for the first half of the summer. He's like, I don't want, I don't want to make you seem like this is your first impression of me. And then Ben is like, ah, I don't care. Or whatever his accent is. Meanwhile, the door was just open. The front door was open at 4am and it's like, who knows? You can't leave a door open at 4am who knows what kind of. Remember that one time they showed the B roll and there was like a raccoon in the front yard? That raccoon could settle on into that summer house in two shakes of a stick because that door was open wide at 4am and if I was a raccoon at 4am and I saw a door open, I'd want to scurry right in and get me a can of Lover Boy. And you know, I'd take Bela Hayes spare bed while she's not in town. And I take A nap, maybe get one of those bagels from Carl. You know that raccoon is just gonna come in and set up shop because they left that door open at 4am and that's not acceptable. Not acceptable. What else is going on? Next morning, Carl's doing his meditation. I am proud of Carl. Just. He was like doing his meditation in bed or something. Having a good season. Then Weston, Sierra, they. So the whole group is going to go to this boat. They're going to do some boat thing. And they decide to go to the boat thing early to have this conversation they've been meaning to have, which I was already nervous for them to have because I'm like thinking, oh, I was like, you know when you get like the nervous, sweaty palpitations? That's how I felt. I was like everything in me was just sweating and I felt like I had goosebumps. And I was nervous in a way that, like, I should be nervous in real life for things like that. That was like my nervous system was overreacting. Even before we went to the boat thing, like before they went to commercial, I was just like, sweat. I need some deodorant. I tried. You know how they say, like, deodorant is bad for you? Whatever, just use it and. Or. No, they say antiperspirants bad or something. Are you supposed to do that all natural deodorant? Like, I've tried you guys. It doesn't work. 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He was just tongue kissing some other strange gal at the party. And to that strange gal, I hope you're recounting the error of your ways because no women should be making out with this fella now. Okay, I know people like a story, and that's one of the problems. That's why these men have these Peter Pan syndrome on Bravo because they go out to these clubs and people, I think a lot young women want to make out with them and gay men too. But like, a lot of people want to make out with them because it's like a funny story. And I understand that. But we must all resist the urge because it's keeping these men in arrested development for way too long. And it happens across the board on the Bravo network of the men. It's like you look at the southern charm men, you look at summer house Vanderpump rules. It gives them Peter Pan syndrome because they think they could go out and all these. Not only do people want to make out with the first story, but they also, like, wanna talk to them about the shows. Because all the people that watch these shows are women and gay men. So of course you see any of these men from the Bravo network, you're like, oh, let me talk about the show and something like that. And then unfortunately, they think that it gives them. They think it means like, all these young women are like, so attracted to them and stuff. And so I just hope anybody who has the opportunity to West. For west to make out with them or for them to make out with west, you just need to remember to love yourself and not do it because it's actually like, disgusting. And so I hate to judge because I know we've all been there. Who hasn't made out with someone for a story? I mean, I have many a time. If you. If I had a nickel for every time in my 20s that I made out with someone just for a funny story, I'd have upwards of $78. Okay. I'm not doing the math, but it's around there, I'd assume because I used to do it all the Time. Oh, so just don't do it. And look, that's live and learn. And but that to that woman who was doing it next to Sierra, she should have known better too, because that dumbass. You mean to tell me that woman who made out with west next to Sierra, you mean to tell me she didn't watch the show? Because if you don't, don't watch the show. I don't believe that you would just see sweaty ass west at a share house and start making out with him. So she had to have watched the show. So then in turn, I think, well, if you did watch the show, you would have known he had a relationship with Sierra and you shouldn't be making out with him sitting next to Sierra. Get the fuck out of here. But more. I'm obviously more mad at Wes, but I just have to point that out. But she said he didn't. With Sierra when he. She sits down with the west, she's like, you didn't see me when you were making out with this person. I was sitting next to you. And she says he downplayed their relationship. She considered him her best friend. And she said she's guarded with other people. She didn't expect him to say that about her. And west said in the press he was defending himself. And then you guys, this. I can't even say this out loud because it's actually pissing me off. She apologizes to him for not being there for him when he needed it. She apologizes to him, Electric chair, Are you kidding me? And she says, this wouldn't be a situation if we didn't have cameras or the fans or all of this. But like, for Sierra to have to apologize to west for anything, it's just. It makes my blood boil. But west says the outside world is making things difficult. And Sierra's like, oh, I miss you as a friend. And they're crying and it's like. Feels so real and it makes me so upset. And Sierra says, I don't want people talking shit about you or saying mean things about you because you're not a bad person. And I was like, sister no. Sister yes, Sister no. If the nuns were here, they'd say, sister no. Sister no. They wouldn't be saying sister yes because actually she's wrong because people should say mean things about Wes because he's actually being horrible on tv and this is his job as a reality TV Persona. And so we're watching his Persona be mean. And so I think we're allowed to comment on him. But then Wes says He wanted to tell Sierra how proud he was about that Carolina house. And then he's like, oh, and if we ever, never talk again, I want to say sorry. I had a lot of time to reflect on all that family stuff. And he apologized for bringing her home to his family and how it must have been a mind fuck for her. And he says, I see you more. And Sierra's like, yeah, that's all I wanted. Meanwhile, they're playing, like, this violin music in the background, which is just chilling. And Wes says, I'm happier when you and I communicate. And. Or no. Did Sierra say that? And then Wes says, we should move forward according to your boundaries. And then Sierra says, can we just be best friends? And then they hug. Goosebumps. The goosebumps. Even. Even just talking about this. Just discuss. I mean, diabolical. And again, hearing that, it was. It was bookended the episode of, like, the first scene of the episode was Amanda doing this to Sierra. And then the last scene of the episode is west having this kind of conversation with Sierra. It's like, what the. That's a mind. It is. I said I wasn't gonna swear this episode. I must have said the F word a thousand times. Oh, well, so be it. So be it. But then they hug and the episode ends, which is just. She's crying. And also they made a joke. Sierra tells west he should have stopped Jesse from trying to make out with. Because nobody wants to make out with Jesse. And somehow, you guys, I hate to say it, but Jesse is coming out of this season unscathed and he's somehow having a good season because west is being such a fuck up. And this is the thing with all of these shows and it's happening over on the Valley is that if you are one of these straight guys on one of these shows, you definitely should advocate. And I hate to even say this in microphone because I don't think that we need this as the audience, but if for the cast members, they should advocate for the bad people to be on the show. So, like on the Valley, those straight men probably should have tried to get Jax to stick around, because if they have someone like Jax around, then they don't look as bad, right? We're all focused on how bad of a demon Jax is. And then you get rid of Jax and you're like, oh, fuck, like Danny's right there, you know, Whoa. And then the same thing happens here on Summer House. It's like, if once we get rid of Wes, we're all gonna be like, oh, Jesse. But Then Jesse's coming across well, and I think it's gonna give him a musical career because now all of a sudden on TikTok, I'm seeing all his musical clips pop up. And I never asked for it. Believe you me. I never asked for that. Okay, that's some music stylings I've never asked for. Is Jesse Solomon singing? And yet they're showing up all the time. Speaking of showing up all the time, Danielle's back next week. Guess they're setting up her appearance on in the City because she arrives to the finale party, and then I guess she's having problems with Lindsey Hubbard. Then I see her and Amanda. I mean, next week on the show. This season's just gonna keep getting worse and worse for Amanda and West, I think. And I did hear. I think Andy Cohen said on the radio show that they are putting the episodes together now, meaning they're like. I think they're recutting some of Summer House episodes to highlight some of this stuff. And thank God for that. So I just want to say to the editors, whoever's behind the booth, producers, anybody, anybody who works on these shows, I just want to say God bless and thank you. And sister, yes, sister, yes, Sister, yes. To all the people behind the booth editing these episodes in real time to give us more scoop, because there's one thing I need more of. It's scoops. Love a scoop. Good. I love a scoop. Actually saying the word scoop makes me want to head on over to Cold Stone, get me a scoop. I like it. I love it. Although I hate. Can I complain about something? This has nothing to do with anything on Summer House. We're done with that recap. But I do want to complain about the way that they have Coldstone, because I love Cold Stone, but I hate the way that they do the like it, love it, gotta have it. Like, that's their sizing, okay? And I am just barely getting used to Starbucks schedule or whatever or units of measurement where it's like venti grande. Like, I'm just now getting used to that. After a hundred years on this Earth, I'm just finally understanding, like, which one's the medium, which one's a small, which one's a large. Okay? And I still even get the Starbucks ones mixed up sometimes. But the like it, love it, gotta have it of Cold Stone. Like, to me, that should be punishable by law. Like, I should be able to do a citizen's arrest for everybody that works at Cold Stone. That makes me decide. Like it, love it, gotta have it and that's not even where the complaint ends, because I'm also pissed at those cups. I like it in a cup, okay? I do love a waffle cone, but when I get my cold Stone, I do the cookie Minster, and I get it. I like it in a cup with the spoon and those cups, they fill it up and they're filled to the brim. And if they would just give us a bigger cup, like, if they want to keep the scoops the same, but, like, I don't need my ice cream overflowing from the thing. Like. And I think they do it to fool the customer into thinking, like, oh, look at how much they're filling up my cup. But I actually get pissed off by it because I'm like, I wish they would leave a little more room in the cup. So usually when I order it, I have to order like a. I'm like, I want a gotta have it or I want the like it scoop, but in a gotta have it cup. And I sound like such a fucking crazy person because that's not a way that people should order their unit of measurement of ice cream. Just say, I wish I could just be like, I would like a medium and a large cup, but instead I gotta be like, oh, I'd like a love it size and I gotta have it cup. And it's like, what are these words? Like, can you just have, like, a normal unit of measurement? And then it's confusing. It's just confusing. And I love my. I love a cold stone. Love the cookie minster. Some people think that, like, chocolate and mint is like toothpastey. I don't feel that way. I love a chocolate and mint combo. I do. And I. I'm gonna go a step further. I don't like when they put chocolate chips in it. I need it to be Oreo cookie. I. That's the kind of with mixed with mint. I need Oreo cookie. Not a chocolate chip, not a chocolate chunk. I want a full Oreo cookie, okay? And I also need the mint part to be green. And I know that that doesn't have any bearing on flavor because they just put green food coloring in where the it is. But they're visually, I need it to be green. Okay. I'm glad I got that off my chest. We love Cold Stone, though. They're not a sponsor of the show, but if they want to be, I'll go get a cookie minster, and we'll all go get a cookie minster. You know, like it size with a love it cut and Then do you ever remember that video? You know what? Every time I think of Cold Stone, I think of Nikki Blonsky from the movie Hairspray. Because, do you remember, this is, like, such a deep cut for pop culture lovers. But I. When she got the role on Hairspray, she played the lead in the movie Hairspray with John Travolta, where he's doing laundry as Edna Turnblad. Anyway, when Nikki Blonsky got the role of Tracy turned lad, she was, like, working at Cold Stone at the time because they did an open call and she somehow got an audition. And then I remember there being Entertainment Tonight footage. Like, I. I used to love watching Entertainment Tonight, 7:30 on the dot. I'd be sitting in front of the TV with my mom. We'd be watching Entertainment Night Tonight. Wait, that's not it, is it? That's. Anyway, the Entertainment tonight theme song, 7:30 on the dot, would be in front of the TV. And I remember Nikki Blonsey getting surprised by the producers at Coldstone. And she, like, is sweeping the floor at Cold Stone or something. And they're like, you're going to be Tracy Turnblad in Hairspray. And she's like, ah, you know, she freaks out. And it was like. It made me believe in dreams coming true. Because I thought, oh, I could be working at the time, I think I worked at Panera or something or Borders Bookstore. And I just thought, like, oh, somebody could come in the Panera while I'm washing dishes and be like, you're gonna be John Travolta's son? Surprise. And then I'd lose it. Like, that was. I went to bed dreaming, like, somebody coming into my place of employment and the Panera bread. I'm like, I'm gonna be just like Nikki Blonsky. Like, someone's gonna come into Panera Bread and announce to me live on Entertainment Tonight that, like, I got the role of child of John Travolta. And I thought, that's. That's a dream coming true. Just somebody being like, you're John Travolta's son. And that's. She was living my dream. But I thought that's how it made me believe dreams can come true. If that's could happen to Nikki Blonsky out of Cold Stone, that could happen to me at a Borders Books me at a Panera. I didn't work at Panera for very long. It was like a. Like two weeks or something. I remember they put me on dishwash. I was supposed to be a sandwich Artist. And then they put me on dishwasher and I was like, fuck this. Like, I was so pissed. And then I went and got a job at the bookstore because I had to work. And I also did. I mean, I did plenty of jobs, but I was not supposed to be a dishwasher. And they were like, oh, surprise. Like, I know you got hired as a sandwich maker, but you got to start a dishwasher. And the dishes at Panera are disgusting. Because they would. You know, I don't know if they still do this at Panera. I haven't been in a while. But they have those sandwich stuffers. Have you guys seen those? We're done with the Bravo portion of the show, so you could turn this off. You don't want to hear me talk about Panera sandwich stuffers. But anyway, I think those are supposed to be good. But also, when you go into Panera, how they used to have it, they'd have those buckets by the trash. And so people were supposed to go to the trash can and, like, wipe off the rest of their salad or whatever because they would give you real plates. And they were supposed to, like, wipe it off in the trash and then put their empty plates into the bucket. And then as the dishwasher, we'd have to go get that big ass bucket up of dishes, dishware, and then take it to the back and then clean everything. Right? Which is a nightmare because nobody, if you think that anybody was cleaning off those plates, people were just throwing all their food in there just full. They would have like a full soup bowl and then it'd be spilling out into the bucket. It'd be spilling onto the other plates, people. Leftover bread, some. It was disgusting. And then I'd have to, like, have these buckets just in front of me cleaning everybody's plates of old Panera food. And I was like, get me out of here. I was like, get me out of here. So I went across the street to the bookstore and worked at Borders Books. But unfortunately, John Travolta was never. It was never a surprise by Entertainment Tonight that he would be my parent in a movie. Unfortunately, not yet. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. It could still happen. Na na na na na na na na na na na. Okay, I better go because now I'm just talking nonsense. But I love you all so much for listening. We'll back later this week with the Valley recap. And I can't believe west and Sierra and Amanda. This whole situation is being so diabolical. West and Amanda, electric chair. Okay, I Love you all so much for listening. Let's keep it moving and have a good week.
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and always will be incredibly relevant.
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Whether you have a casual interest in myth or are a dyed in the wool nerd for the ancient world, you will find your fix with. Let's talk about myths, baby. I'm Liv Albert and together with my amazing producer Mikayla Pengoish we bring the context, intricacies, and the stories of ancient Greece and sometimes the wider Mediterranean to life. Let's Talk About Myths Baby has something for everyone. Listen to let's Talk About Myths Baby wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday or find more information@mythsbaby.com Acast helps creators launch, grow and monetize their podcast everywhere. Acast.com.
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Raise your hands to the sky all
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you have to do is try there's
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no turning back, no, no it's all
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in front of you there's no turning back, no, oh no it's only up to you this is not fun. Summer should be fun.