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After all, seasons change. So do cities. People come into your life and people go. But it's comforting to know the ones you love are always in your heart. Hello, everyone, and welcome to everything iconic with me, Danny Pellegrino. Today on the podcast, we're going to be covering the Summer House season finale. Plus, in the City, the very first episode, I thought it was fantastic. I got excited to hang out with those new people. It seems like they're all a little bit messy. It feels a little more aspirational to me than the Valley, because I think the Valley is actually like the biggest comp for in the city. The Valley was spun off from Vanderpump Rules. It's about the next phase in these people's lives. But one of the things with in the City, the first episode at least, is like, we're getting into the city. We're at the rooftop bars, and it feels like a little more glamorous. Even the apartments in the city, which doesn't make much sense to me, but the apartments feel a little. A little nicer, a little chicer, a little better decorated. Like, when I'm watching the Valley, I'm kind of looking like, what are we doing here in these houses? And I know everything feels bleak when we're going to Santa Clarita and they don't even want to be there, but at least in the city, it feels like there's livelihood. There's life, there's excitement, there's lights and people everywhere. And it feels a little more aspirational to me in a way that I was not expecting. It didn't feel as sad and bleak as the Valley often does when I'm watching that. And I'm just seeing all these couples who hate each other and have children involved. At least in the city, they do have children involved. But it seems like we're going to be focusing more on the people without the kids. I don't know. I'm excited. I'm excited. And the Summer House finale was great. I didn't know how they would cover it. I knew they were going to be leading in from Summer House into In the city and doing, like, a seamless transition where they're leaving the summer house and going into the city. And so that's what happened, where it was like they left the house, and then we're all of a sudden getting confessionals on a couch. And so that was thrilling. However, my one kind of minor complaint is that we're also enthused by the West, Amanda, Sierra of it all. And with west and Sierra not on this show, they did pick up cameras and film a scene with Kyle and Amanda. But I think we're all invested in that storyline. So it feels difficult to kind of go back in time. And we're doing this sort of backwards Inception situation where at the beginning of the in the City episode, we're flashing ahead, then we're flashing back, then we're flashing. And so it feels a little bit disjointed, which I don't know how they would have fixed that, because the west and Amanda of It all happened probably after they already had the first episode of in the City edited and ready to go. And so they had an impossible task. But I think they did a great job. They. They at least they didn't bore me. And that's good. That's good. So first we're going to cover this Summerhouse finale episode because it was intense. The previously on. You know, at the beginning of the episode when they did the previously on Summer House, even that had, like, that Real House of Salt Lake City choir music, where it's like, you know, it was like that and an angry violin in the background. And I love that. And I don't know if it was just the. The episode that I saw, I saw, like, an uncensored version, you know, how sometimes on Peacock, they air the uncensored versions of, like, the finales and the reunions and stuff. The episode I saw was uncensored. And so even on the previously on Summer House, they showed Kyle telling Amanda to fuck you when he said fuck you. And I'll tell you what, hearing it without the censor bar, it was actually so intense. Like, the. The ire that he used against Amanda when he said fuck you. It was intense. It was intense in a way that I was not expecting. And we opened the episode. It's August 31st. We have our main cast member, including Levi. Did you guys hear that rumor? Did you guys hear that rumor? Somebody on social media. It's not really a rumor. It's just somebody on social media said that what if Bailey's the only person that can actually see Levi? Because Levi. Levi, because she is always sort of like, there in the background, but, like, never been mic'd up, doesn't have a confessional. She's appearing at the reunion, or she posted a picture at the reunion. But, like, then they came out with a cast photo of the reunion. It's like Levi's nowhere to be found. And so somebody posted that, like, maybe Bailey's the only one that can see Levi. So. Made me laugh. It made me laugh. And look, one of the things about this episode, the way it led into the spin off, is that we're left with a lot of unsolved mysteries. So we don't know kind of what's gonna happen with the main group on Summerhouse because only half of them go on to in the city. We don't know if Levi's a ghost. For every mystery, there is someone somewhere who knows the truth. Perhaps that someone is watching. Perhaps it's you. Join me. Got a lot of questions. Got a lot of questions after watching this episode of Summerhound. But again, they opened on August 31st, the Apresky Party. And Kyle says to Ben, which Kyle and Ben, I do actually fully believe they're in love now. I mean, they almost kissed last week when Kyle was crying into Ben's arms. Remember, it was like they got very close to kissing. I was like, they're gonna smooch each other. And then Kyle even posted a clip of that on his social media page. And so he was embracing it. And then on this week's episode, we see he said to Ben, he said, who would have thought you pulling out your pecker in Italy would have led to this? And I'm like, oh, yeah, they're definitely in love. Like, they've seen each other naked. They almost kissed. Like, if anything, Kyle needs to leave Amanda for Ben. And I'M sorry to Sabrina, she's going to be collateral damage to that because unless they do a menageri trois or something which we fully support here. Menageri trois. Do what you got to do. But I'm sorry, Sabrina, you might have to exit stage left because I think Ben and Kyle are in love and they're the future. I believe the children are the future and I believe that Kyle and Ben together are the future. And that's relationship I would like to see on screen. Unfortunately, Summerhouse doesn't present any gay relationships on this show. They had a gay a while back and they said, you're fired. They said, Stephen McGee, may he rest in peace. I mean he's not dead, but may he be resting in peace in his apartment in New York, wherever the fuck he is. I don't know, but I hope he's having a good nap or something when he's instead of filming because he was the one who was on the show. And then they never. Have they ever had a gay since? I don't think so. It's like, I guess they just, you know, I complain about that all the time here on everything iconic. A lot of these shows, despite the fact this is a large gay audience, they don't like to show a lot of gay stuff. Thank God we got Southern hospitality for that. Anyway, moving on. Kyle and Sierra, they talk about how last summer Ciara just wanted to nap. So she was like, yeah, I'm getting out to the bars and stuff. And I do want to say I think losing Paige, of course was a big hit to the show and I love my Paige, my Italian sister. I love Paige. I love and miss Paige and I think she's a star. She don't need this show. However, I do think it was ultimately good for the show because her and she was kind of riling them all up to stay in bed all the time. The bed bugs and stuff. And so Ciara this season it was like fun to see her and Amanda go out to the bars all the time. And when Paige was around, they just wanted to nap. And I get that because believe you me, if I was in this cats, I'd be wanting to nap too. Get paid for it on camera, get in the covers. And Paige even made a business out of it. Now she's selling the sleepwear and all that stuff. And so it was good for Paige but bad for the show. And so I think Paige leaving the show was good for everybody because Paige is a star, she's doing great and it frees everybody else up to go to the bars and not be napping, sleeping all the time. But Kyle says he's been a mess all summer, can't control the emotions. Sierra tells him he just wants. Or she just wants them to both be happy. And she's like, no one's rooting for your divorce. And I was like, actually, Sierra, I think I am sorry to say. Sorry to say. I've been rooting for the divorce for a while. I'm not proud of that. It's not like I'm generally rooting for everybody to get divorced. I don't want divorce to happen. I'm not interested in that. But also, if people want to need a divorce, I do support when they need a divorce. And so watching Kyle and Amanda, I'm looking at them like, yeah, they should be divorced, especially before having kids. Those seasons when they were all talking about, like, Kyle was going to get his sperms checked and all that kind of stuff. I'm like, absolutely not. Like, we should not be bringing children into this world. And now, of course, we find out Amanda was hooking up with the west, and Kyle's been having his extramarital affairs or whatever throughout the years. And. And so they should never have been married. And so I'm. And by the way, I also want to say, like, extramarital affairs are fine if it's approved by everybody in the relationship, like, if it's an open relationship or something. But from all intents and purposes, they have not had an open relationship. So they've both been cheating all the time, even though Amanda says she wasn't cheating. I don't buy that timeline. She's sticking to the story that, like, the timeline, it didn't happen until February and her and Kyle were separated or whatever. I don't buy that bucket bullshit. I've seen too many things in my own eyes in years. So call me. Call me crazy, but my eyes are open and my ears are empty of wax, and I could see what's going on in the show. And so I do believe her and Wes have at least been having some sort of emotional affair or something, the way he's grabbing hold of her and all that kind of stuff. So I, yeah, I have been rooting for their divorce. So sue me. Sue me. It's true. They needed a divorce. And so Sierra telling Kyle, no one's rooting for your divorce, I thought. Actually, I think a whole few million of us are the people that watch the show because we could see with their eyes and ears what's going on. It's not okay. But Sierra says to Kyle, I want you to be able to exhale outside of each other. That's right. That was a tranquil direct quote. And Kyle's like, I hear you. I'm sorry. But Sierra tells Kyle to apologize about the night before, even though he did sort of apologize, but it wasn't like, a good apology. And I think he's done so many apologies by this point that it's like he doesn't have, like, much, much more left to give with the apologies. Because he's always, like, walking into that room while Amanda's laying in the bed with the best friend that she betrays in the future. And he's like, I'm sorry. But it's like the apologies are never really great. But he's been doing it for so long. And she's always, like, trying to act like the victim need an apology every five fucking seconds. That of course they're not great. Meanwhile, Lindsey and Carl, they're in the igloo and they're having this, like, really intense conversation with Lindsay's got bunny ears on. And she says she buried things down after the breakup. And then when she saw Carl's mom, Sharon. Sharon, when it all came came up and Lindsay tells Carl, she's like, what the fuck is your mom doing? Which we talked about that a few weeks ago. It's like, why is Sharon involved in this? And not only was Sharon involved a few weeks ago when she went up to Lindsay at the soft bar opening, which I thought was weird, the fact that she mic'd up and wanted to have this moment on camera. And now I'm even leaning more into that because a people told me, like, you're being too hard on Sharon. And I don't ever like to be hard on a mom because we love the moms. We love the moms. But with Sharon, I was like, I know too much about reality tv. Like, she went into that having, wanting a moment. And then even this week, when Lindsay brings up Sharon, we find out that Sharon was dancing with Sheena Shay in Mexico on the wedding day that Carl and Lindsey were supposed to have. And I was like, oh, Sheena's always being evoked on all these shows. Sheena's the turning on the lights at the network. I know Lala was just on watch what happens live. And Lala like, shaded Sheena. She said, like, well, I'm on the show and Sheena's a Bravo blogger. And the truth is, Sheena's mentioned every one of these fucking shows. She's somehow in the mix on the Valley, even though she's not a cast member on that. She's in the mix on Summer House. She was dancing with Sharon on Carl and Lindsay's supposed wedding day. And so Sheena, she might not be getting a check for on camera work right now, but she's keeping the lights on over at Bravo. She's keeping these storylines moving. Okay, Whether that means she's dropping some info about somebody fucking someone from Baywatch over on the Valley or doing the Electric Slide with Sharon over in where Mexico for the wedding day. And so Sheena. And I don't understand why that was in Us Weekly because did you see they showed the U.S. i think it was US Weekly. They showed the headline from US Weekly and it said Sharon dancing with Sheena Shay on me in Mexico on the wedding day. And I was like, does Sharon have a publicist? Like, why the. Why is Sharon mentioned in US Weekly headline? Like, it's very odd. Sharon's trying to be a star. And look, I'm not saying it can't happen. I just would like us all be upfront about this. That's my main issue with Sharon. Because, like, if you look at Sheena Shay, I don't think Sheena Shay is trying to pretend like she don't want to be a star. You know, she came out with a book where she just named a bunch of men that she fucked that were all famous. And so that's someone trying to be a star. It's pretty obvious. Not to mention she does all this reality TV and she's on her socials and stuff. But I feel like Sharon's trying to covertly be a star. And it's like, just embrace the Cher. Just embrace it. Just get. Hire the publicist, let us know and call up one of the producers and say, hey, I want a spin off, otherwise I'm not doing a scene. You know, put Sharon on one of these other shows. She's. Is she in New York? Can we put her on Roni? Maybe Sharon could save Roni the reboot. Did I tell you guys the thing that I heard about the new Roni? So I guess I can say this because. Well, no one, I mean, I can say. Cause like have a podcast. I'm going to say it what I want to say it. But I did hear this a while back, that Martha Stewart is obviously friends with one of the new cast members or works with one of the new cast members. I forget their exact relationship. I think one of the new cast members may be Martha's makeup artist or something like that. I don't know exactly. I have to Google that because I forgot and I didn't write it down. But I heard a while back that Martha is actually like, a friend of on the new Roni. That's right. That's what I heard. I don't know if this is true. It hasn't come out with, like, who's in? The cast members. But it did come out. I saw somebody posted that Martha was, like, filming for the new Roni. So that's how I feel like I can say it because I'm like, oh, she is filming. And when I had heard that rumor, I thought, like, that seems crazy. Like, why is Martha Stewart. She wouldn't be a cast member in the new Roni, would she? But then I saw that she was filming. I'm like, oh, wow, that's actually maybe true. So I do think that Martha's like an official friend of. So like, not the main cast member. But that's what I heard at least. So it hasn't come out yet and I probably shouldn't be sharing it, but I've heard that and I saw pictures of her filming, so I feel like it's okay to mention and maybe I'm wrong. What do I know? What do I know? Except for I'm usually right. The only thing I'm usually wrong about is that when I say nice things about the men on this network, those are the only things that bite me in the ass. Later on is when I'm saying how great, like, Tom Sandoval is or something. And then years later, everybody's like, danny, what were you talking about? And so I am wrong about those things. So I don't have maybe, like the best. If I say something nice about a man on the network, then maybe don't listen to that. But everything else I feel like I'm usually kind of right about. Right. Anyway, Sharon dancing with Shina Shay in Mexico just took me by surprise. I was like, oh. Then Lindsay says to Carl, I thought our friendship went beyond the TV show. And she's mad still because he didn't tell her that she watched all of the dissolution of the relationship play out on tv. And she said, like, carl, why didn't you come to me off camera? And we were engaged. Like we were an actual couple. It wasn't just for the TV show. So she was upset and Carl was, I guess, being a good reality TV star, saving it all for the cameras. But if I was Lindsey, I'd be pissed, right? Like, as an Audience member. I'm glad that Carl kept it all off camera until. Or I'm glad that Carl addressed his dissolution with Lindsay and their engagement on camera. But if I was Lindsey, I'd be like, why are we doing this on camera? Like, we're engaged to be married. And I'm just seeing in your confessionals how you want to break up. Like, that's fucked up. But I'm happy that they're making up. And Carl says that I'm sorry. And Lindsay, you made me a better person. And I. Like, I hate to say it, but I think I was, like, sort of. I think I cried a little bit. I don't know. I did cry. I don't know if I. Do you guys ever cry at some of these shows? Like, I don't know if I was just tired or emotional or what? You know, I mentioned all this construction happening in the backyard here, and it's driving me a little nuts. And so maybe I'm a little on edge or something, which. The construction. I think maybe we have, like, two more weeks left. So I'm sorry. Buckle up, buttercup. Because I might be complaining about it for another couple weeks. However, it seems like a lot of the noise is done. Anyway, the point is, sometimes you cry watching these shows, right? Like, I'm like, why am I getting so worked up about these. These dummies? But I love them. I love my dummies. Love my dummies. Okay, so then Kyle tries to talk to Amanda. He's like, ah, Kyle, come here. Or Amanda, come here. And Amanda's, like, just throwing her hand up and doesn't want to talk to him. And to me, this was a little manipulative because I think, like, Amanda has been on reality TV long enough to know that if she doesn't give Kyle the moment, she looks, continues to look like the victim, and he continues to look like the aggressor. Do you know what I'm saying? And again, I do not. Especially after hearing the way he said fuck you to Amanda, that dinner table. I do not excuse that. Like, I don't think that's okay. Whether or not she was bumping uglies with that Other west man is another story. But the fact that Kyle said his wife on camera at a dinner table, fuck you, and he said it with such anger in his voice, I don't excuse that. However, I do know that Amanda's being a little savvy when it comes the way she's going around this party, and she won't let Kyle apologize to her. On camera. I thought that was interesting. Meanwhile, Ben tells Sabrina that he loves her. That's right. Sabrina, my northeast Ohio sister. And I was a little confused because in the flashback where maybe I missed it, but from what I could tell, Ben was like, I love you, Sabrina. And she's like, wow. And I was like. And I was like, she's just gonna say wow. But Sabrina tells Sierra that she's her biggest blessing, and Sierra makes her feel safe. And then Sierra tells Sabrina like, you taught me to live out loud or whatever. In love. And it was like, this is. Seems like such an odd. I don't understand. I don't understand the Sabrina and Sierra of it all. Like, obviously, they didn't film all of their interactions together, but as an audience member, it's like we. Sabrina just, like, came into this house. I love you. I love you, Sierra. I love you. You know, she just came on, like, a really strong. And Sierra. Then we hear her and her confessionals say, like, Sabrina loosened her up and made her want to, like, live a little more emotionally or I forget the wording that Sierra uses, but it all seems so fast, and, like, this relationship seems like it came out of nowhere. I'm like, they're besties now. Sabrina. Sabrina secured her spot next season, though. I think she's gonna be on next season, right? Her in those chokers and those boots. I hope she's packing them up for the Hamptons because she can be filming. And I'm okay with that because I need to get to know who this person is. The way that she was able to come. Sierra, too, especially. Who with new people on the show. Sierra doesn't warm up quickly. She did with Mia, but she knew Mia a long time prior to this. But every other new person that we've seen on the show, I always feel like Sierra is, like, a little, you know, she's not interested right away. But for some reason with Sabrina, those two are. Those two are in love, and I need to see that play out. I need to see that next season. I need to hear more from Sabrina. Like, I need to get to know, like, what did Sierra scene Sabrina that I haven't seen yet. So I hope they're making her up and giving her a contract. Lord knows Levy's not getting that contract. Levy. Levi. It's. Her name's Levi. Why do I keep seeing Levy? Okay. Meanwhile, west is worried Sabrina is trying to encourage dating with Sierra, but West doesn't want that. But. And he says, like, the last thing I want is her fucking heart broken. It's like, well, what are you doing, sir? He needs to stay away from all these people whilst that Demi. Meanwhile, then we have Mia, Sierra, and Amanda, and they're talking about their relationship now before we even get into the Kyle, Amanda, Sierra, Mia of it all, I just should point out that Amanda was, like, sucking blue cheese off a wing. And that to me is like electric chair. Electric chair. Okay, Because. And I'm not a blue cheese person, but even if I was like, I'm a sauce. I'm a sauce guy. Like a good barbecue. I just order. One of my favorite breakfast burritos in LA is this place called Eat in North Hollywood. Eat. Just the name of it. Real creative name. They got real clever with the name and named it a restaurant Eat. Anyway, they have. I ordered, like, lunch there and they gave me barbecue sauce, even though I didn't ask for barbecue sauce. But it was the best barbecue sauce. And I have been dipping. I dip my French fry, an onion ring. Like, I'll dip anything in a good barbecue. I like a mayo. I love a ketchup. I'm not above a ketchup. But I'm not a blue cheese. I'm not a ranch person. Not a blue cheese. I don't like those. And I know that's, like, unpopular to say you don't like ranch dressing, but I do not care for it. Never did, never will. And I especially don't like blue cheese. But even when I if I got a good barbecue, I wouldn't, like, dip a french fry into the barbecue that I love and then suck off the barbecue and then put the french fry back. Like, that's fucked up. That's fucked up. And it means something for me to be saying that because I suffered from eating disorder for 100 years in my all my 20s, and I don't even remember a time that I was sucking the sauce off a chicken wing and then putting the wing back. Absolutely not. And they all have to dote on Amanda. And I'm like, so sick of it, Especially knowing what we know now. But I even think if she didn't have the thing with West, I think I'd still be pissed off having to watch them all cater around Amanda and be like, you're strong and you're special and you're the best and whatever. And it's like, actually, like, I'm sick of it. Like, I'm sick of them having to every fucking episode. Sierra's got to sit down with Amanda's ass and tell her how great and special and brave and smart and strong and beautiful and confident and whatever. It's like, actually shut the fuck up. Like, I can't hear how all these nice adjectives about Amanda. And I'm disgusted that Sierra even has this footage. I'm disgusted, like, on behalf of Sarah's behalf, like, I feel disgusted that in years from now they're gonna play reruns of this stupid show. You know how they do. And. Or maybe people will discover it 10 years from now and they'll go back and watch all of Summerhouse, you know? And I'm disgusted that there's so much footage of Sierra telling Amanda how wonderful she is and all these great adjectives about herself after what. What Amanda does to Sierra. It's like, I'm so fucking sick on Sierra's behalf that there's so much footage of, like, this going around. It's disgusting. She tells Amanda, we need to start working on your confidence. And Amanda finally does say. She's like, I'm so tired of you always having to console me. It's like, yeah, no shit, dummy. Me too. I'm sick of it too, watching it. And Sierra's like, okay, well, then I'll stop handling you with kid gloves. If you want to get out of the relationship with Kyle, tell me when. I'll help you do it. And I don't know. I hope Amanda's getting well, because this is unwell. The fact that she sat there while Sierra said that and then goes and fucks West. I know she's in therapy on in the city. We saw her in therapy. Or she talks about going to therapy or whatever. But I hope she's maybe upping it a little and gets better. We want that for everybody, everybody to get better. You know, we all could use therapy. Meanwhile, Ben's kissing. Ben's kissing Kyle again. Ben is just like. They're just smooching. I don't know if they did actually kiss, but they look like. Did they look like they were gonna kiss or they did kiss, and Sabrina's right there. So maybe it is Minaj Trois. But Sabrina tells Kyle to fight for Amanda. And I was like, absolutely not, Amanda. Not funny, not fun. So maybe Sabrina go back to the drawing board because your advice is not working out for us. But Kyle comes by awkwardly again to try to talk to Amanda, and Amanda ignores it. Then he tries to hug her. She's like, no, no. And Amanda thought she was, like, gonna come across as the biggest victim. That's what's interesting to me about this whole season is like, Amanda probably went home or she probably thought about the season after filming and she's like, I'm gonna come across as the victim. Like, everybody's gonna root for me. The audience is gonna be on my side. And instead she comes across as like the biggest monster and vice versa for Kyle. Like, I think Kyle probably was so nervous about this show and he definitely had his bad moments again, saying the fuck you to his wife a hundred times and like, all this horrible things. But for the most part, Kyle probably thought this season he's gonna look like such a jerk, such an asshole and come across so poorly. And the audience is on Kyle's side instead of Amanda's side. Like, that's probably a mind fuck for them anyway. They all jump in the pool, including Levi, which if you like, you, like, had to pause. But there's a bunch of other people there. Yvonne, who's Lindsay's friend, she's on in the City. You know, they're all there too. And I think I'd have to go back and watch Summer House because I'm curious how many people, how many times the people from in the City appear on this season of Summer House. Anyway, then we cut to 2:00am you guys, we have so much more to talk about. We haven't even gotten to the west and Sierra kiss of it all. Hot. Let's take a break here. I want to thank Acast and we'll be right back. Why limit your favorite fragrance to just one room? With Pura, you can build a whole home scenting system that moves with your day. Love it. 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Like, that's not a way to get to next season. Like you get out on the town, go stir some stuff up with the group. Then we cut to 2am Some of them come home. 4:58am Sabrina, West, Sierra and Ben. They're outside on the lawn and they. They, Ben and no, I'm sorry, Sierra and West. I almost said Ben and Sierra kiss. Could you imagine? That would have been a scandal. No. Sierra and west kissed. Sierra and west kiss. I couldn't believe it. I kind of believe it. Meanwhile, Kyle's not even home. He comes back at 5:27am him and Jesse. And Jesse walks in the house. He's like, ayo, hey, yo. That's I think his only line of dialogue this whole episode was ayo, hey, o and where were they? Where is Anyone at till 5:27am I'm sorry, Debar Stevens. Is that a Hamptons thing? Are they open all night? Because when I, at least here in la, bars close at two, right? And then when I lived in Chicago, there was like certain bars that would be open till extra past two. There was this place called the Store that was open till 4, the store till 4. And so like afterwards. But no one ever should be out after. After 11pm Nothing good happens. What's that saying? I think it's later than that. But for Danny pellegrino, anything after 10pm basically nothing good happens. So what are you doing till 5.27am? I don't understand it. At least the other ones were smooching in the backyard. Like, were Kyle and Jesse smooching somewhere else? Like where? What were they doing out till 5:27am and then Amanda, even I was like confused why she wakes up. So Kyle is in the kitchen and then she wakes up and Kyle's like, I just found some chips or something. And then she gets a glass of water and goes back to bed. But I was like, this is odd that anyone's up at this time. I mean, that's the time I wake up. 5:27 is like pretty much the time I wake up to get the baby up. And I'm like, what is going on that people are just getting home at that time? I'm old. Okay. West and Sierra, that's the night vision that they. There was like night vision from their footage from their room, from West's room because Sierra's in there, Jesse's also in there. But they, I think, tried to cover the cameras or something because it was this weird footage. And Wes tried to get her to stay in the room, but she doesn't. But they kiss and Jesse's confused, I think. Yeah. Jesse says before he goes to bed, he's like. So he did have more lines of dialogue, but Jesse says, imagine Kyle coming back to his wife at 6 in the morning. And he's right. Like, it is a little weird. It is a little weird. But I mean, I know Kyle was on, on the brim. I don't know, who cares? But who cares? Okay, then we get to 9am they're all starting to wake up. Ben and Sabrina are just in bed saying I love you a million times. Amanda and Kyle, Kyle says he tries to talk to her and the two of them are just missing each other. It's like Kyle keeps trying to apologize. Amanda doesn't want to hear it. I'm like, just, can we spit this out and get it over with? Spit it out. In the words of Heather Gay on The real house of Salt Lake City. Spit it out, Brynwin. Spit it out because just get it over with. Just apologize to each other so we can move on. I'm tired of dancing around each other like we're in the movie. Shall we Dance? During Richard Gere, Susan Sarandon and JLo. Supporting performance from Lisa Ann Walter. I mean, what are we. What are we doing? Did you guys ever see that movie shall we Dance? I don't know why that just popped in my head. Shall we? Do you know what I'm talking about? Richard Gere. Richard Gere and Susan Sarandon and JLo. Yeah, that was a class. You know, they don't make them like that anymore. They just don't. And you know, somebody needs to start. Put me in, coach. We need to do something about this. Okay, so then Ben and Sabrina. Yeah. Amanda, Kyle, Mia and Sierra. Mia tells Sierra not to make the mistake of west again. And Mia's right. And Mia's a good friend. And I love Misa Mia. Mia, Mia, Mia. Mamma Mia. That's what I say every time I see Mia. She's our. She's our cast mama because I love her. Mamma Mia. Mamma Mia. Here we go again. Are they getting to work on that? Mama Mia Part 3? I keep hearing anytime Meryl's interviewed or Amanda Seyfried's interviewed or whatever, they're like, what's going on with Mamma Mia 3? And I know Meryl's character is dead, but they could figure that out if they could have Cher pop in from a helicopter at the end of part two for one scene where she sings a song to Andy Garcia. They could certainly mic up Meryl for a Part three. Figure it out. She could be a ghost. If Levi's on this show appearing as a ghost, so can Meryl in mamma mia 3. Get to work. Get to work. Ladies and gents, whoever's making that fucking movie, I need it for my mental health. Okay, then we got to breakfast. Carl ordered it. God bless Carl. Always ordering the breakfast. He is. And I'm like, so proud and happy for him ordering the breakfast. And that's the kind of person you need at your house. He's like, the house mom. I said that. But Lindsay gives a speech. Lindsay's always given a speech. And she's like, I wasn't prepared for a speech. And then she's like, but. And then she raised her glass and gives like this full ass monologue. She's always given a speech. I wasn't prepared for a speech. She's like that Kristen Wiig character was like, don't make me sing. Don't make me give a speech. It's like, Lindsay, nobody asks you to give a speech, but you're always prepared for one. And you always say you don't know what you're saying. But they all cheers to be in family. And they pack up and leave, I imagine. I was trying to think of the logistics of packing for Summer House. My guess is that at the beginning of the season, they bring a bunch of their essentials and leave them at the house. And then each weekend they could bring a new bag of, like, new fresh clothes or whatever they need for the parties or whatever. That was my guess. Right. So when they're packing up at the end of the season, it's probably a lot of the essentials that have been there. So it's probably more packing, right? I don't know. Bailey says she's healed. I love Bailey. Better be back next season if she's not. You know what? Bravo. You're going to have to listen to me complain about it for at least two episodes of this podcast. And so you better bring her back. Better bring her back. There was a weird thing when they were all leaving the house where Amanda was holding. Amanda's always got the midriff showing and God bless. Like, if I had a midriff like that, I'd probably be showing it off, too. But she was doing this weird thing where she was, like, pinching her skin and I didn't. Did anyone notice that? I was like, what the fuck is going on? What is she. She was pinching her flanks. Which, by the way, I did hear on my Valley recap. I talked about how the doctor on the Valley was telling Brittany that he was going to remove her flanks or suck out her flanks or something. I don't forget what he was saying. But he said flanks. And I thought, like, how dare he? Like, what a disgusting thing to say. And then come to find out flanks is an actual medical term. It is. Flanks is a medical term. I still don't think it's a proper word. I think they need to replace it. Like, I'm not a doctor or a nurse or I don't work for the healthcare system, but I think somebody needs to get in. In there and change that name and call it anything else. Because if I'm going to a doctor for any sort of plastic surgery and they say, hey, let's work on your flanks, then I'm throwing you in jail and doing a citizen's arrest because it's not okay. I don't care that it's a medical term. It's a disgusting word. It's worse to. To me. It's worse than panties or moist or any of those gross words that everybody's uncomfortable by. I feel like flanks is right on up there. Anyway, then, so Amanda's like kind of pinching herself and I was like, what's going on? Sierra and Amanda hug and cry. And Sierra's like, I love you and I'm so proud of you. You're special and beautiful and important. And I'm like, I'm gonna be sick watching this. Like, Amanda, I'm literally gonna be sick watching her have another scene where Sierra's saying, you're special, you're beautiful and all this stuff. I'm proud of you. It's like, what are we proud of? That she's being a diabolical. I don't like it. But. And also they were acting like this is a series finale. Did they sell the house? I did see that the house is maybe like up for sale or something. And so maybe they. They thought this was the last time they were going to be filming at the house or something because I didn't understand the way everybody's getting so emotional, more so than ever before. Or did they think because they're doing the spin off, they're not going to be back in the summer house? There was something like very serious finale about this, but I don't know what that was. Mia tells west she'll kill him if he doesn't take care of Sierra. So your days are numbered, west, because I believe Mia. I believe Mia when she said she'll kill you if you don't take care of Sierra. And she'll do it. And so your days are numbered, sir. I don't know how long it's going to take me for her to get around to that promise. But she told you and she clocked your ass and she told you right to your face. She said, I'll kill you if you ever fuck up with my girl Sierra. And he did. And after Mia telling him that. And so look, Mia's got grounds to do it. I'm sorry to say. She warned him. It wasn't. I don't think that was like a threat. Is that considered a threat or something? I feel like she was just telling how she sees it, how she sees it, doing it, how she sees it. And so unfortunately for Wes, he might not be with us for much longer because Mia said that. And then Carl and Lindsay also fist Bump. When they say goodbye, everyone's having these, like, really traumatic emotional things. And then Carl and Lindsay just fist bump. But I'm happy they're on good terms. And I do feel like Carl will be on in The City Season 2. It makes sense that she wasn't in the new one. He wasn't in the new one. Although after watching in the City, I don't know that we need other people from Summer House, because the newbies on that show, I was, like, kind of interested in all of them. Maybe. I don't know. I don't quite have their names all worked out, but we're. But I was kind of interested in them. Then we see Amanda and Kyle talking on the porch, and Kyle says he feels sick to his stomach. And I do have to say this is the worst Kyle has ever looked. And yet he still looked really good. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, he looked like he'd been crying. He looked very pale, bags under the eyes. And yet he still looked maybe 29. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, that's a shock, and I don't understand how he's doing it, but he says he let everyone down. He had high hopes for the summer. And Amanda's like, I grew up in this house 10 years. And they recap their 10 years together. And she said, it's some of the most amazing times and really fucking hard. Some of the worst times. Kyle was also wearing friendship bracelets. He was, like, ready to go to the ERAS tour. I was like, what is. What is on Kyle's wrists? You know, I'm always a little skeptical of. I shouldn't say this. This is maybe stereotypical or, I don't know, straight guys who wear a lot of, like, bracelets or if you ever seen a straight guy in an anklet, I'm always like, a little bit like, what's happening here? Do you know what I mean? Like. And the. Like, the friendship bracelets. I understand. How do I say this? I understand if it's like a dad taking their daughter to the ERAS tour. But I don't know. I'm like, what's happening here? And I think gay people can get away with it, right? Because gay people, we have childlike wonder. And straight women, childlike wonder. Gay women even get it, but straight men, I don't know. And that maybe that's, like, maybe that's a. I need to. I need to get that. I need to get over that. Maybe that's a me issue. Maybe it is. I need to talk to my therapist about it. But Amanda says she wants to close the chapter of somewhere else and start over. And she suggests time apart. She's gonna stay in a hotel for a couple of nights. This screams like, this screams set up for the new city. Season of in the city. Like, I don't even know if I believe so much of this because she's like, I'm gonna go to the hotel. I think this was a way for them to do the, like, transition from summer house in the city. So I think this was all planned. What I don't think was planned was like the fallout of west and Sierra and Amanda and all that kind of stuff. But I think, like, this part of things was planned. Her saying, I'm gonna just for two nights. Okay. But Kyle says everything he put effort into is crumbling. The business, the wife. And it's. You know what's crazy to me? This is actually a good lesson. I'm gonna say this and then we're gonna go do our last break. Commercial break. But this is important, actually, so sit tight. It's crazy how this is actually like, Kyle's lowest in life, right? The business is on the brink of bankruptcy. It's gonna close down. Lover boy. Nobody's buying that piss water in a can. And he has had to take out loans to pay the employees and to pay the brand and all that kind of stuff. Meanwhile, Amanda, they hate each other. He said fuck you to the wife. She's ready to leave. She's staying at a hotel. He's really at his lowest. He's at his rock bottom. And we're watching him at his rock bottom again. He looks the worst he's ever looked in this scene. But they agree to meet at therapy on Wednesday. And so this is his rock bottom. And yet it's sort of a breakthrough. Like, I feel like in real time, if you watch Kyle on social media, he's saying the lover boy is now doing better than ever. Everybody's buying those Carl's mess shirts, and he's thriving in the business. He found out Amanda was actually scheming behind the back. So that probably made it a little more a little easier for him to break up the relationship with Amanda, lose the marriage, and now he's gonna find someone maybe that he's better with. His business is doing better. He's got a spin off show. So it was like his rock bottom is actually sort of that breakthrough moment. And I thought, like, that's a good lesson for us all, because I find that in real life, whenever I'm at my lowest. What's that tweet like? Fat broken at your lowest? I remember there was, like, a famous tweet about Christina Aguilera. But anyway, I love Christina more than anything, but it's like, that's how I feel sometimes when I'm at my lowest. I'm like, oh, this might be a breakthrough moment. I always think at the other side of it, when your life's really shitty on the other side of it there, it can only get better, right? Like when you're at your absolute lowest. I'm not talking about a little setback, but I'm talking your absolute lowest. There's only one way but up. And I think watching Kyle on this is actually, like, a good. A good lesson. And they don't need each other, but it is sad to see them say goodbye to the house. Kyle crying. They. They leave the revive boxes on the floor. Amanda gives a peace sign as she leaves them. She just give it peace, and then she drives off. And then guess what? We're headed into the city Kyle said goodbye to. He was in his 20s when he started this house. 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And like, I did not have a one. And I feel like I've had that do not disturb on for a few hours now because I put, I put it on before, well, before recording, but I haven't checked it for a while. And I thought, like, I'm gonna hit the button during the break and I'm gonna see all these messages. But turns out I got nothing. Nothing, which is Sad. Moving on. Before we get into the in the City, I do want to mention that Bethany's in a feud with Dina Manzo's daughter. That's right. Breaking news. Bethenny Frankel. She was given sh. Shoes from Dina Manzo's daughter. Lexi was sent them. And then Bethany did not tag her in the TikTok post and instead tagged a dupe. And then Bethany said it was because those shoes that she was sent were sold out. But then it was like an affiliate link. So Bethany was getting like money from it or something. So then Lexi called it out, and then Bethany's like, I don't have to do anything. You send me these things. She's like, I make millions of dollars and I sell everybody's stuff all the time, and I make a lot of money. That's not how you do business. This. She's exhausting. She's exhausting. But if you haven't been paying attention, it always. I always think, like, I don't want to see anything that's going on with Bethany more because it's exhausting. But then you go on TikTok and it's like, you can't help it. Even if you block stuff, it's like you see it, you see it. It just haunts you. It haunts you like Levi haunt in the summer house. And unfortunately, I got to keep up with it. I gotta keep up with it. Whether I like it or not. I'm gonna. I'm gonna find out if she's in some sort of feud with anybody else. And I'm on Lexi and Dina's side. Dina Manzo also chimed in. And so that's what happens. Anyway, moving on to in the City. Shall we play the. This was actually from the trailer of this season of in the City, and I just want to play it. And then we're gonna discuss the episode and as well as the new. The new series. So let me play a clip of this of trailer of the in The City Season 1 trailer. I've never been happier in my entire life. Meanwhile, he has a whole ass wife still Lindsay. It's an Internet sleuth on my man. Christ. I'm also still mad that you wore a white dress at my wedding. It's pink. Pinky. Everyone bows down to Lindsay and I'm sick of watching it. You're supposed to be my best friend and treat me like. Stop running your nose gonna leave right now because you're talking to a wall. Another wall. You moved your whole whole life here for him. I will move it Right back out. Have you been lying to me for years? You're the Bernie Madoff of hospitality who was in our apartment last night while I'm asleep. You know how many times you cheated on me? I think it's wrong. Lay off me, dude. I am in tears watching my friends demolish their relationship. You don't have a prenup, but if you come for me, I'll come for you. That would be a losing battle. Are you threatening me? Ah, I got the chills. I got the effing chills. The way that they were threatening about the prenup. And not only that, it seemed like everybody. Andrea's getting activated. I don't even recall Andrea fighting when he was on Summer House. Plus, Danielle's married a married man or dating a married man or something. Married man, I don't know. And then also wearing a white to somebody's wedding, which, actually, to me, I hate to say it, like. Like, obviously, I don't support anybody fucking married men if they're not supposed to be. However, the real crime here is that Danielle wore white to someone's wedding because it's, like, such a basic. I don't even. It's not excusable anymore. Like, we all know that you're not supposed to wear white to somebody else's wedding. And I know Danielle in that clip said that it was pink, but I don't. I don't buy it. I'm not gonna fall for that. And so even if it is pink, if it's a light pink, you shouldn't be wearing it to the wedding. You should go find another fucking dress. Because if I'm the bride and I'm wearing white and I see some other girlfriend of mine wearing white, I'd kick their ass right out of the wedding. It's. It's. You're kicked out. I'd say, security, get him the fuck out. But now we said it, get him the fuck out. Because it's just not. It's just looking for too much attention. And I don't care if you look good in that dress or whatever. And you know how I feel about costume parties and stuff. Like, I don't think everyone should be forced to wear a certain kind of costume or anything, but when it comes to a wedding, you do not wear white to a wedding. You do not do it. Stop it. Anyway, it doesn't even look like a real wedding, though. I think it looks like a luncheon or something. I'm a little confused. But that's the trailer. It looks like it's gonna be a good series. And all these other people seem like great reality stars. We got a mix of the old people, some of the new people, and we saw Summer House again. Leads right into it. Amanda arrives. We suddenly have Kyle and Amanda on a new confessional couch. Amanda goes to the hotel, and then this is where they have to sort of like, insert footage. So I think what happened was they had the whole episode done. They knew how Summer House was gonna end and how in the City was gonna begin. But then this west scandal happens. They filmed a new scene, and then we have to do this weird timeline thing where it's like, January 2026. Kyle and Amanda break up, then it's February, then March. They even showed my appearance on Watch what Happens live with Kyle. They didn't show me in the clip, but they showed a clip of Kyle being asked about west and Amanda, and that was March. And then it goes to April. And then all of a sudden, it's April 9, 2026, and Kyle's home. Amanda arrives, and Kyle says, I'm worried about you. And she's like, I'm wor. And Kyle says he pulled his back out at the new gym. And I think Amanda said something like, well, you're old, or something like that. Am I making that up? I feel like she said that, and that would have pissed me off. That would have PMO'd. But Kyle tells Amanda that it looked like watching Summer House, that she was done with their relationship on the show. And Amanda says she was afraid Kyle would be relationship would be done, and she tried to fight for it. And Amanda says nothing was happening with Wes, which I do think is a lie. I think it was a lie. Amanda cries at Kyle, questioning her faithfulness, though, and she's like, I've been cheated on you. On by you. And Amanda says there was a video of Kyle making out when they were married. And Kyle just says, okay. Ah, you guys. Did you catch that part? Did we know about that? I think we might have known about that, but it was shocking to me that they. Kyle couldn't even deny it because it was like, yeah, he did. And I know there was, like, a lot of clips going around when Kyle would be drunk with people and stuff. And there was in Summer House, didn't she say somebody slept over or he slept over somebody's house after a night of DJing and stuff? So I definitely think there was some, like, unfaithfulness on Kyle's side and Amanda's side, seemingly. But, yeah, there's video of him Just making out while you're married. Ugh. I don't like that. I would. I would lose it. Amanda says she didn't cheat, though. And Kyle's still being a friend because he worries about her mental health. And then he says regarding Wes, he's like, someone else gets the version I fell in love with of you. Oh, I got the chills because that whole scene was good and I'm glad they did it. I just wanted more of it. That's the frustrating thing about this whole thing with Kyle West Sierra Amanda, is that we're so invested in that. And so even though in the City looks like a great season, a great episode, all that kind of good stuff. It is. The air was inflated a little bit or deflated from the tires a little bit because we're also jazzed about that other storyline. And then it's like, I don't want to meet someone named Kenny or whoever the fuck that was. And Ivan, like, I'm not. I need to know more about that. And so they give us a little tease of it. And I don't know what the solution was. You know, that's not. That's not my problem. It's for them to figure out. If you got a problem with me, it's your problem. It's their problem. In the words of Dorinda Menley, it's their problem. Okay, so then we cut to September, seven months earlier. This is where I'm like, okay, do I care about this? But then we get to see Lindsay and Gemma, and Gemma's adorable. Lindsay says she hasn't had sex in nine months. Flashbacks to her in Summer House wanting to fuck everybody. Everett, or what was that guy's name? Everett. She's got this nanny named Liz. Ivan is her bestie for 13 years. Yvonne seems fun. She's married to this guy Nick. And it's revealed that she milked Lindsay, which is something I don't know that I need to know about. I guess it's fine that they are being open and honest, but I don't know that I care that Yvonne milked Lindsay. I don't need to know about anyone milking anybody, to be honest with you. And it's not just a human thing, because I've talked about on the podcast before how I was traumatized as a kid. I had to milk a cow in front of the this class while they took pictures of me. The teachers, you know, they. Every student had to go milk the cow. And I didn't want to milk the cow. I just felt like forced and on display. Like, Melissa Gore guy felt like I was on display when I had to milk that cow for the class field trip. And I don't know, first grade or where the fuck it was. And so, yeah, I don't know. I don't want to hear about anyone milking anybody. God bless that they do it. I mean, bodies are a fantastic thing. Georgina's Lindsay's mom friend. She's got two kids. The ex left when she was pregnant, and she said she went a little cuckoo. And it's like, no shit, I would have went cuckoo too. What do you mean? Who's this man that left her when she was pregnant? Like, fuck you. I mean, I guess it was good for her blessing in disguise, because you don't want to be with anyone like that. But I still think it's really kind of disgusting for the. For the father to just leave. Like, I don't know. Lindsay says she's teaching Gemma to not rely on men. And she's like, clearly we can't. And unfortunately, that's one of the things I have learned watching Bravo is that you can't lean on these men because they all just. The bar is so low. The bar is just too low. They need to raise that bar a little bit. Okay, so then we see in Greenwich Village. Greenwich Village, Amanda and Lindsay, they joke about beef in a baby bag. And they say that Amanda says her dog likes those. And it's like a little baby food thing. And I gotta say, like, it's the pouches. And we give my son pouches sometimes. Obviously we're trying with the other foods too, but with the pouches, sometimes if you're on the go, you need to grab a pouch. You want them to get some good nutrients as you're feeding them. And so my son Lucky likes this salmon in a bag. And it's, like, so disgusting to me because I don't even like salmon. Not in a bag or a pouch, but it's like liquid salmon, which sounds like the most disgusting thing. And to me, it really is. But it's like baby food. Unfortunately, that's how it is now. We started doing the Little Spoon. This is not a sponsored ad. Although if Little Spoon wants to sponsor this, please hop on board, because we just started buying the little spoon ones. They have, like, these little meal baby meal kits, and it's great for, like, introducing them to other foods. But, like, that aren't a pouch. Although we like the pouches too. Okay, so then what else? Therapists told Kyle and Amanda that they hate each other. That's basically what the therapist said. Kyle told her to get her own place. These two are just done. They're done. So then we cut to Andrea and Lexi in Central Park. He's just the best. And she's an interior designer. I don't know anything about her other than that. But he loves her, she loves him. They wed in a castle in Italy. Kyle was at the wedding without Amanda. Danielle caught the bouquet, so they're all there. Meanwhile, Danielle's back on the show. I mentioned her in the. In the pink outfit at a wedding, but she's labeled as founder and influencer. And I'm sorry, but, like, I know Paige said this famously on Summer House, but, like. Of what? Like what? I'm a little confused. I'm a little confused. But she's playing tennis with E, O, I, N. Oh, don't they call him. Is. Is it pronounced like Owen? I'm sorry if I'm getting that wrong. I don't know. I've never heard that name before, unfortunately. But it's a beautiful name. But that's her new boyfriend. They met nine years ago, and they're in real time having a baby together. Didn't she just announce that she's having a baby? But I also, you know, influencer in general, too. I think that term is kind of going away because there's not as much influencing going on. But God bless. But she's about to be 37. They've only been together six months. Lindsay doesn't even know about him because they don't speak. Lindsay ghosted after she had the baby. And I don't know if I fought Lindsay. I mean, I. I'm always kind of team Lindsay, unfortunately. I know that's not popular with everybody, but I'm team Lindsay most of the time. And I know that Lindsay's a mess, but she's like, my mess. You know what I'm saying? But in terms of her ghosting after baby, like, how old is Gemma? Like, I don't even know if it's ghosting if you just had a baby and you don't talk to friends. Like, I don't even think that's ghosting. It's just like. Like, you just had a baby. You don't have time to talk to nobody. I feel like there's a lot of friends I've lost touch with over the past year with the baby. And it's not because I don't like certain people. It's just like, I'm tired and I don't have the energy. But They've her and Owen. Ian, I'm sorry, this is gonna me up maybe by the mid season I hopefully have these names correct, but yo. And one time, I guess he's like a tennis pro or something. Matt, my husband, plays. He grew up playing tennis and played in college and all that kind of stuff and is like a really good tennis player. And one time I tried to have him teach me like very early in a relationship and it almost broke us up. Like we were, we were just. It was not, it was not good because I'm not. I'm not the quickest learner when it comes to that. And I just was taking an extra long period of time. Then we cut to Kyle and Kenny. Kenny's a venture capitalist, one of the people on this show. He's known Kyle for 10 years. He's a work hard, play hard guy. He says they're both work hard, play hard guys. And it's like that's just a way of saying, like, we haven't grown up yet. We're Peter Pan syndrome and we like to drink and get fucked up. But Kyle, or Kenny says that Kyle's a lush. And Kenny worked on Wall Street. He's from the Midwest, from Michigan. He invested in lover boy early on. Kyle says he's on the brink of financial disaster with lover boy. So that's why he started DJing, to pay the bills. And that's interesting. Kenny's looking for a partner. Kenny says that Amanda never meets Kyle where he's at. Like, Kyle goes out with Amanda a lot. And he's like, why are you always solo? Like, that's, that's not good. Meanwhile, Whitney's the girlfriend of six months. She's gorgeous. We meet her dog pooping in the street. She's from Minnesota, another Midwest. We love our Midwest people. And she did the Bachelor, which is fascinating that Bravo's embracing all these Bachelor people. Jasmine on the Valley was on the Bachelor. Ashley from Real Houses, Rhode island was on the Bachelor. Now this Whitney's from the Bachelor universe. And that 10 years ago, even five years ago, would have never happened on Bravo. They would have never, ever, ever had Bachelor people on the Bravo. And now they are left, right and center. But Kenny's not sure if it's for a. If there's a spark between them. The thing that worries me about the Bachelor world is like, oh, and even Ben from Summerhouse, he was on like Australian Bachelor, but I feel like that's a whole different kind of show. And so those kind of reality TV stars are a little more polished than the ones that we have on the Bravo network. So it makes me nervous. Meanwhile, everyone goes to this restaurant, Garrett restaurant, but Amanda and Kyle go to this restaurant beforehand when everybody else is at the Garrett restaurant because it's their anniversary. And Amanda tells Kyle he's doing everything wrong when it comes to their therapy situation. He says, or she tells him, you came home at 4am the night before and we're supposed to go to therapy. You're not giving me any hope. Meanwhile, Kyle makes fun of her raincoat. And she's like, it's not a raincoat. But now we said it. Oh, it made me laugh. It made me laugh. And honestly, like, why? If, like, the one thing your wife is telling you is that, like, I want you to stop going out so late at night and staying out till late at night and whatever. And it's. And it's like, you know, you're going to therapy to talk about how that's one of the big issues in your relationship. Like, maybe don't stay out the night before till 4am but, you know, that's who Kyle is. I suppose Kyle makes fun of the rain cut, though, and that just really cracked me up. And she goes home and maybe. Maybe Amanda shouldn't be on reality tv because, I don't know, it sort of seems like this is hell for her. And so it's like, maybe you don't be on it. Lindsay grills Kenny, though, at the Garrett restaurant, and Kenny feels like she's grilling him. And Kenny seems like he's gonna be good reality TV star because it seems. He seems like a mess. Do you know what I mean? Meanwhile, the guy who owns the restaurant, I think his name was Gavin, and I don't know why I wrote in my notes, he's a restaurateur with great nail beds. Did somebody say he had great nail beds, or am I making that up? Then Kyle and Lindsay. Kyle arrives at the bar without Amanda, and him and Lindsay talk. And then Danielle arrives, like, jaws in the water. And they're all like. But she. Lindsay pulls up the Danielle receipts. She has like a whole text thread or a whole notes app thing about why she's mad at Danielle. And she. It's all from Summer House. She says, season four, she gave Carl a hand job and an Uber right after they broke up, which actually, like, looking back, that is fucked up. So Lindsay's saying, like, I was in a relationship with Carl, and then we broke up and you gave a couple him a hand job in Uber, which, by the way, like, aren't Uber's. The Uber drivers have been through enough. Like, I don't. The idea that, like, I'm sorry to get so gross on us right now, so please cover your ears if you're. If there are children in the car and you're listening to this in this car, like, cover their ears or tell them to just not remember this part. But, like, if I'm driving an Uber for a living, like, I don't need Carl's splooge in my back seat. Like, enough. Like, you shouldn't be giving anybody. And I guess maybe it was, like, in the pants or something, but. And call me a prude all you want, but I'm looking out for the Uber and Lyft drivers out there in the universe who are gonna have to clean up after Carl's jerking off by Danielle. Okay? So Danielle, put your hand away until you get back to the house. And Carl, put your Rita Moreno away until you're back at the house, because these drivers have been through enough. Like, they're just trying to make a decent living. And now in your backseat of their car, you got Carl's little swimmers there. And that's not okay. So you need to stop doing that in general, but especially, right. You're supposed to be friends, and then you give your. The ex a hand job. Then Lindsay says in season seven, with the engagement, she was weird. In season nine, she was weird about the comments about the baby, and Lindsay's like, maybe Danielle should stop shitting on me. And I agree. That's why I think I turned on Danielle. Back in the day, Danielle asked Lindsay to get coffee, though. And Lindsay's like, well, maybe I'm busy these days. And then I feel like that was Lindsay's way of, like, trying to get Danielle off the show, but it didn't work. Then we cut to the dermatologist Georgina's office. This is. Georgina's one of the new cast members. She's got a med spa in Tribeca. She's also got a daughter, Eloise, who's been eating dog food. Apparently, that's what it's. That's the breaking news there. Like, Eloise, the daughter eats dog food. And she's like, well, it's fine, because I looked at it. It was pure protein. So she's like, go nuts. But these are, like. These seem like good reality stars. The fact this kind of woman, Georgina, who's gonna let her daughter just eat dog food because it's protein, like, that's a good reality star in my eyes. Then they Some of the gals go to the bar rooftop at night. Lindsay says Amanda didn't pay rent for three years. And then Kyle added it all up and charged her last week for 117k. What? You guys. What? What the fuck? What do you mean they're still married at this point? Like, isn't that kind of bizarre that Kyle's like, oh, you owe me $117,000. I know he's got bills to pay and loverboy's in the toilet at this point in time, but I don't know that you should just tell your wife she owes you $117,000. That's crazy. What is that? I don't even have much opinion on that other than what. What the fuck? I don't know what else to say but like, what the fuck? That's. That's the end of the relationship. Like, that's. That's the end of it. Meanwhile, Yvonne, we get to know she's married to Nick and he doesn't want to start having kids. And, oh, this guy is interesting to me because she said she went to. She was pissed at him, so she went to San Diego without telling him and he didn't even fucking notice. And how do you not notice? Amanda says, men are always the problem. And I'm like, actually, Amanda, Amanda not fun. And Amanda also calls out hus and yells with a married man. And then someone's like, that's not a girl's girl. And I'm like, well, Amanda's technically married when she's sucking up with west, so Amanda shouldn't be the one talking about how Danielle's with a married man. Glass stones or Gl? Not glass stones, glass houses. Do they, you know, throw glass stones? Do we. I don't know. Let's see, what else do we got going on? Kyle and Amanda, they get cocktails. Oh, I. I think I said earlier it was for their annivers. This is another scene where it's actually their anniversary, so I might have gotten that mixed up. But Kyle and Amanda get cocktails for their four year anniversary. They order some mozzarella sticks with caviar, which I was a little confused, like, I never heard of that. Like mozzarella sticks with caviar. I may need to try that. But Amanda's celebrating that they made it to four years, even though everyone said they want to make it to three. Maybe not the best celebration for four year wedding anniversary, but Amanda says therapy is not moving them forward and she doesn't want to go back to the apartment. She's like, I'm gonna move out on their anniversary. She tells them. She's like, maybe just for a month. She thinks it'll help with their relationship. And then she's like, I just want us to date again and maybe, like, have our date nights. Date night. Have our date nights. She's like, I just think we should date again. And she says, I'm not doing this to run away. It's because I want this to work out. So let's have some date nights. Date night. Date night. Date night. I'm sorry. I just said that three times. Date night. Date night. Date night. Brittany from Oh, I love her sister. Yes. I love my Brit. Love my Brit. Bananas. Amanda says it's not up to Kyle, though, because Kyle's like, well, maybe we should talk about this. And she's like, no, it's not up to you. And Kyle's confused with being supportive. And then meanwhile, there's, like, strangers there sitting next to them at the bar who are very uncomfortable by their relationship. And they just met them, and it's like, imagine us as the audience, how tired we are. But then the episode ends. This season, we get Lindsay versus Kenny, Danielle, Andrea versus Kenny. Kenny says he's. Says Gavin's the Bernie Madoff of hospitality. So Kenny's in the mix with all these people. He's in a fight with Lindsay and with Andrea, with Gavin. Kyle has a stranger over. And then the prenup thing, which we talked about at the beginning of this show, looks thrilling to me. I'm excited. I feel like I haven't been this excited for a new show in a long time. And I was a little concerned because people have been saying, oh, you need to cover Rhode island or Atlanta. And I'm like, no, I'm going to lean into. In the city right now. And here I am leaning into the city, but I didn't know if it'd be good. It could have been a big flop. Who's to say? Sometimes we think these shows are going to be good, and they're a big flop. And so the fact that the first episode was good, which obviously the first episode we knew was going to be good, because they have to make a good first episode. With all of these shows, you have to be a little. You have to. You have to know that they're not going to launch a new show unless that first episode is edited. They edit the shit out of it. Like, they're going to make sure it's good, and they probably test it, and they're. They're going to make sure that first one is good, but then the longevity is where you got to worry. So even with Rhode island houses like the Rhode island first episode was good, but if the rest of the season is not good, then we're fucked. But within the city, I'm hopeful that the season is going to be good because in the preview it looked good. A lot of fights, a lot of layers, a lot of drama off screen that's going to influence what we're looking at on screen. 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