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And this group is so fractured. Anyway, so it's like that's the big party is just this weird grouping of people. There's nobody else at the resort. It's raining outside. And then they move it to the hotel room, which did feel very Vanderpump Rules coded to me, which I liked. However, it's sort of a depressing vacation for people. I mean, not only do we have the babies there, which God bless the babies. I understand that they gotta bring the babies, but I don't think the audience wants to watch the babies on the cast trip to Mexico when they're all trying to have a good time. And not to mention, I don't think the cast wants to be dealing with Britney and her drains. And, you know, I love my Brit Bananas, but I would just have preferred maybe they waited a little while taking them. Or maybe we could do another cast trip. It's still this season, but without all that stuff going on. Jason could even make it because he's still healing. I'd like to see him maybe cruising through somewhere else. They're going to Mexico. Maybe they could cruise through Jamaica. Hey, babe. Cruz and I are packed to go to the beach. You ready to go? Sorry, honey, already here. I'm cruising through Jamaica. I'm nice. I mean, I am empathetic to Brittany and the trains, but it's crazy that she's on a trip to Mexico post surgery like that. Like, she should be at home resting, just. Only I say that because I want the best for her. And she seems to not be listening to the advice of a doctor, because I've been watching her on these shows for so many years now that I know. Even on Vanderpump Rules, I mentioned this last week, but the doctor said, hey, you got an ulcer. You probably shouldn't be going on a cast trip. And then she went on the cast trip and was, like, doing shots and stuff, and it was like, Brett Bananas, you got an ulcer. And in this Situation. I'm watching the tv and I'm saying, brit, you got the ball drains. And so maybe you should just be cooped up in bed having a marathon, watching something on the tv, put on hacks, put on. I don't know, put on one of the Bravo shows. If you got to catch up on Salt Lake City or Potomac or whatever is on at the time you were filming, then you need to. You need to do that. I don't know that you need to be in Mexico. And it's such a depressing trip to Mexico. It's. The Shorts of Palooza is just the hotel lobby dinner buffet. Like, that's the whole Schwartz's birthday. Meanwhile, the gal that he loves, the. She's not even there because she's not contracted to be on the show. So it's like the weirdest grouping of people. So for Schwartz's birthday, he's just celebrating in a Mexico hotel lobby because it's raining outside. And Brittany can't even stay out late because she's got the ball drains. Kristen's dealing with the crying baby, so she's going back to the hotel room. And she hates the husband, Luke. Luke is not understanding Britney's postpartum journey. Everybody seems to hate Danny and Nia, including production. Because I'm watching the show and I'm saying, oh, production obviously hates them because every time Danny's caught in a lie, they show flashback. And Nia, too. I don't think. I don't think anybody likes them. And the cast certainly doesn't like him. They seem to still hate Janet, too. Yeah, but. Yeah, I do not like you, Janet. And so I'm watching this show. I'm like, what is this grouping of people? And it's. It's sad to me. And so maybe they could have. I don't know. I hope they get to take another cast trip without the drains and the babies. But meanwhile, we're here. We open on the Schwartz of Palooza. Again, just a buffet in the hotel lobby. And Zach tells Schwartz to take off his doily shirt. Because I did love. Like, I did love whatever the fuck Schwartz was wearing because it did look like a doily. And doily is one of the best words in the English language. Language. It's like doily, doily. Remember that scene on Will and Grace? I love that one scene where Karen and Jack are trying to spell doily. Like they're doing gay spelling bee. And they're like, give me some gay words. And one of them is like, doily spelled doily, old will And Grace was so good, especially Karen and Jack. No one, no one would make me laugh more than Karen Walker on that show. But watching Schwartz wear that doily for the. I mean, it was shocking. And they're all drunk. At the beginning of the episode, Kristen had to go to bed or to go take care of the baby. Luke went and got Kristen room service and then comes back to the room where they're all hanging out with some cookies because they decided to leave the hotel lobby. I feel like the hotel was like, you guys gotta get out of the lobby because it was getting late and it was like they're closing up shop. Do you ever see that movie? I still. I still know what you did last summer. I used to love that movie. And it's Jennifer Love Hewitt and Brandi and Freddie Prinze Jr. Anyway, Jennifer Love Hewitt's character wins trip to the Bahamas. She gets the capital of Brazil. Didn't she get it wrong or something? I don't know. That's not the point. The point is they go to this. They win a hotel in the Bahamas for like July 4th weekend, I think it is. Yeah. And so they all go. It's like rainy season. And they're all cooped up in this hotel where nobody is because nobody visits during the rainy season. And they get stuck on this island and they're stuck. And the only other person on the resort is like, Jack Black, who's inexplicably a stoner in this movie. I don't know, I didn't write it. But then it's like he's the only other person at the resort. And then like, the people who work at the resort and you're like, not sure who the killer is. And I'm watching this episode of the Valley and I'm like, this is reminding me of I still know what you did last summer. Like, I'm just expecting a man in a fisherman costume and a hook to come by. And every time we saw Luke trying to fish, I'm like, Luke's going to be the fisherman with the hook. I'm not saying he's a killer, but I'm saying, like, spiritually as I'm watching, like, this feels like I'm watching. I still know what you did last summer, which is not a light hearted reality show or whatever the fuck we're supposed to be watching on the Valley. Like, I still know what you did last summer is a brutal tale of a bunch of young people who get stuck inside a hotel at a rainy season. And so that's what it feels like. And so they all go to the room, and I'm just waiting for Luke to come out in the I still know what you did last summer costume or whatever. I don't know. At least the next day it felt better. But before the next day, they're all drunk in this room. Lala's knock. She's not drinking, and she's. She's asking Danny, like, when are you going to forgive Janet? Which is how I feel too. Like, I. I feel both ways of. Like, I need them to move on from the Dani of it all. And I think, unfortunately, the only way that's going to happen is with Danny and Nia not on this show because I feel like with them on this show, they're not going to admit Danny has been sneaking the booze and everybody's kind of confronting him about it. But then, like, if he's gonna lie about him, be like, no, I didn't like. Zach even was like, hey, did you have a drink at this time? Or they asked about, did you at Britney's house have a drink in the gym? And he's like, no, I didn't. And then production is like, yeah, actually, he did. But if he's not ever willing to admit to those things, then we're just, like, spinning around in a circle. And it's like, same thing with Janet. It's like you either have to move on from your feud with Janet or we need Janet off the show. Like, we can't have. We can't have it both ways because we're just spinning in circles right now. And so, unfortunately, I think the show's not gonna move forward until we either. I mean, I think my. My hot take is that we need Danny and Nia gone on. On the show. Like, I feel like they're just making us spin in a circle, and I don't even think the group likes them. I think Kristen and Luke have this sort of alliance with them. And even Zach, I'm like, I don't think Zach likes them either. But, like, Zach is sort of maybe in on this alliance with them. And I don't know what exactly that alliance entails. I'm not even saying that they all sat down, were like, we're never gonna say anything bad about each other, but there is some sort of, like, weird unspoken thing. At least as a viewer. It feels like nobody's saying. And it's like, if we can't say anything, then. Then the other people are saying it. It's just we're spinning in circles. We're spinning in circles. But Danny apparently liked and posted stuff about Janet and Jason's sex stuff. I was a little confused by, like, what they were talking about. I guess it was like, memes or something. And then they were talking about, like, cuckolding. I'm sorry, I don't know. I didn't know that. I didn't understand that word either. And I know Lala, like, looked it up on the show, but I got so distracted when Lala's like, you're squaring up with me, dawg. And it was like, lala, come on. Why are you squaring up with me, dawg? Because you squared up with me, homie. Like, I wish I could erase that whole interaction for my brain. Like the movie Eternal Sunshine. Like, I just want. Because I saw it, it felt so just. It felt so bleak to me to hear Daniel and Lala talking like that to each other. I was just like, please erase it from my brain. Meanwhile, Jesse says that Lala's so strategic for bringing it up, and she is. And Jesse's totally right. I think Lala is a very strategic reality TV star. I think we learned from her last couple seasons on Vanderpump Rules that she was kind of going whichever way the wind blew, but at the same time, like, they are supposed to be putting on a show. And so if she's doing what producers want her to do, if she's being a producer plant, then fine, like, whatever. Producers think that we need to move the show forward, at least, like Lala seems to be. That's why I like her on the show. Because I'm thinking, well, at least she's doing something to move it forward. And I think sometimes when Lala is being a producer plant, if that's what she is being or whatever, I think, like, sometimes it's going to work and sometimes it's not. And so at least it's something, because the rest of them. It's like Jesse saying that Lala is strategic and is professional. It's like, well, Jesse, you're not doing anything. Like, I'm not seeing Jesse do anything this season. And so that's unfortunate. I need somebody to step up and do some stuff. And I don't know. Janet points out that the meme was bad. She's like, somebody else did that with the meme. Like, that meme. And Nia's like, I don't care about you, Janet. You know? Cause Nia hates Janet. She hates her. Yeah. But, yeah, I do not like you, Janet. It's fine. And Zach is like, well, we all like those memes. And Kristin said, unconfessional, too. She's like, yeah, a lot of us liked bad memes about Jason and Janet and Jasmine. Then starts yelling at Zack. And so we're getting some layers because then they're all fighting. But I don't even. It kind of got to the point where I'm like, I don't know who's fighting whom, homest. Britney, meanwhile, arrived in late. She's in her cute jammies and her drains and some wet hair. And this is when she walks into the room. Zach's like, fuck everybody. Fuck everybody. You know, Zach, Zach just really loses. And I thought he was, like, so wasted because he was shutting, fuck everybody. Fuck everybody. I'm having a laugh. But he was, like, losing it, you know, yelling, fuck everybody. And I'm like thinking, oh, he's like, wasted, you know? And then the next day, he was like, I'm fresh as a daisy, not hungover in the slightest. And I'm like, oh, my God, Zach. But he says that the group is fucked because no one gets a resolution. And he's right. He should say it. But it's all happening in this sad hotel room. Zach storms out, and I look again. I wrote in my notes that he does get too drunk. Like, he gets drunk a lot on the show and starts yelling, but. But then I'm like, well, is he drunk, though? Because the next day, he's not hungover at all. So maybe he's not that drunk. I don't know. Schwartz, meanwhile, is mad. He's never got his cake. And he goes and chases after Zach. So does Benji. And they all. They do, like, a try hugging while Tom Schwartz is in that doily and Zach is crying, and Tom sort of kisses him on the cheek. It's a very tender moment. And honestly, you know how I was feeling at the beginning of the season when I was, like, shipping Tom Schwartz and Zach. Like, I still am, even though Benji was there in the scene. And, you know, I love Benji with all my heart, but I'm like, part of me, and I hate to say it, sick part of me. I'm sorry to say it, but I was thinking, like, benji, get out of here, like, because there is something very tender about the way that Schwartz was checking on Zach and then kissing him on the cheek. And I know that Schwartz is not gay, and I know he's got a super metal girlfriend, but I do feel like in my soul, watching him with Zach, I'm like, you know, they have a Spark. And there's not a lot of. That's the thing, too, with these couples. Here's what I've noticed on this show. So many of the couples hate each other so much that when there's, like, a little spark between anyone, I'm like, oh, wow. Like, that's. That's chemistry, you know? Like, I don't feel chemistry. I feel no chemistry between Danny and Nia. Like, I don't feel not a single spark amongst them. They. I do feel like Nia hates him. I feel like Danny hates her. And we can all pretend that they're just going through a hard time, but I feel that there's an ire. Is that the right word in. In their eyes when they're talking? That is not just a postpartum thing. That's not just, oh, we just had a baby, we're tired kind of thing. It's like a, oh, we hate each other, but, like, we're gonna be with each other forever. Like, I don't think they're. I don't think they're gonna break up unless I do. There was a flashback scene this week where I thought, like, oh, Nia might snap one day. And just, like, because Danny got mad, we'll get to it. But Danny got, like, mad at her for not sticking up for him. And she's like, I'm sorry, Daniel. I. I am sorry, Daniel. I'll do next thing. I'll stick over you. I'm sorry, Daniel. And I thought one day she's. She's gonna snap because she did nothing wrong in that scene where they were all drunk in the hotel room. I felt like she was sticking up for him a little bit, but they just hate each other anyway. The point is, when there's a spark amongst anyone, then I'm like, oh, wow, that's chemistry. And so I see that between Zack and Schwartz, which is probably not the coupling that we should be seeing sparks amongst, but that's the one I am seeing with my eyes. And so I don't feel the sparks between Danny and Nia. I don't feel a spark of chemistry between Luke and Kristen. I don't feel a spark of chemistry. You know what I'm saying? Like, even I feel a spark of chemistry between Jesse and Michelle. They have a spark, but they're in the path of divorce. And Lacey's on her way to Mexico. She's hopping on a plane as we speak. But you mean to tell me that Michelle and Jesse don't have a spark of chemistry? I see it. She walked down to that bar later in the episode, and she had the areola accidentally popped out of her brassier or whatever. And you know who the first person to see it was? Jessie Lally. That's right. None of the. None of her girlfriends, her gal friends, the gay on the show, none of them saw the areola. You know who saw it first was Jesse Lally. And that's. That's a spark. That's something you can't. You can't create that. And so those. These are the couples that unfortunately, I'm rooting for. Not. Not. It's all against my better judgment. Like, I understand Schwartz is straight. I understand that Jesse's a monster and Michelle shouldn't be with him. I get it. But when you see the spark, you think, well, the heart wants what it wants. Unfortunately. I mean, unfortunately. Anyway, Schwartz, yeah, he consoles him. Brittany gets mad. She joins in on the anger against Daniel because she's like, Danny, you even like things about my. About May. She. Danny, you like things about May. You like things. She's like, you like things online about May. She says, May. Like NSync. It's gonna be May. And then Janet calls Dani a dumb motherfucker loser. And Daniel says he thought Britt was with Jax going after Danny and Nia. So remember last season when there was this whole thing about Jax gonna take down Danny and Ian, expose them? So Danny got mad at Britney because he's like, you were with Jax at the time, and. And then Jesse says Jax was going to take down Danny and Brittany didn't stick up against it. And so she's guilty by association. And I'm thinking, you know what, Brittany, despite the fact that I'm mad at her for going on this trip and not really adding much to the season, I have to have her back because she was going through some things last season, in her words. She was fighting for her life with that demon Jax, who we saw. He was, like, throwing things in the house, like, she was trying to raise this small child. He was throwing things. He was, like, filming her in the house, like, and then doing the drugs and all that stuff. Allegedly. And I guess it wasn't a legend. Do I have to say that? I don't know. But she was fighting for her life. So I'm not sure that Britney was really concerned with fucking Danny and Nia and whether or not Danny was sneaking booze behind everyone's back. So the fact that they're lumping in Britney, who immediately filed for divorce when she met with the divorce lawyer on camera last Season. I don't think she was, like, on Jax's side for any of this. And so, yeah, Jax might have been working to take down those two behind the scenes, but I don't think Britney had anything to do with it. She had nothing to do with those things. And so I have to say, she was fighting for her life. So back off Brittany and let her heal with her drains. And Britney, you need to get your ass into that bed and you need to ignore these motherfuckers and go sit your ass down and sleep, because the body needs to heal. You just had a major surgery, girl. So what are you doing? You need to be fighting with Danny Buco and Nia, you need to go sit your ass in the bed, get yourself some bean dip or something. Get some room service, whatever you like. Some beer, cheese, I don't know. And you take a nap. And you know what? Some of these other. Zach, you need to go take care of Brittany, your friend from all these years from Kentucky. You need to go get her some room service, put her to sleep, make sure she's not boozing because she probably shouldn't be after that, while she's still got the drains and put her to bed. And Danny and Nia, though, eventually leave the suite and they go to their own suite. And this is when Danny yells at Nia. He's like, nia wasn't calm and she wasn't. Or, yeah, says nia wasn't calm and she wasn't defending her husband. Their. Their vibes are just so icky to me, like, because I just always feel like we see how he talks to her on camera and just remember that's off camera. How could it be better? I don't believe. I'm not so stupid that I believe that. Oh, he's probably nicer to her off camera. Like, we. You all. We all have to be such idiots to believe that. Oh, actually, he's probably much, much nicer off camera. It's like, no one's nicer off camera. They're nicer on camera. Okay, so every time that he's scolding her for something and he wasn't, like, yelling, he was just sort of school. He always sort of scolds her. And then I mentioned that flashback scene that was like, that. It was a quick little flashback scene. I think it was the next day they showed. They showed Danny and Nia, and she apologized through, like, tears, and that was, like, to me, the most disgusting he's been the whole season, because. Yeah. And it was like a calm. They Weren't yelling at each other, but she's like, I'm sorry, Daniel. I'll have you. I'll be more supportive next time. Meanwhile, she's, like, nursing the baby. This was in the flashback scene that happened the next day. But she's, like, nursing their baby and, you know, rocking the baby. And, you know, she's just, like, completely on the brim, just losing it, hanging on by a very thin dental floss thread. And then he's saying, you weren't supportive of me that last night. And she's like, oh, my God. And she just apologized to him. I'm like, to him. I felt bad. But, you know, she's. She's in that. It's not like I feel bad for Nia sometimes, but I'm like, well, you know what? She's doing it. Whatever. Maybe she likes it. You know, that's the thing. Sometimes. I don't know. People gotta decide what they like on their own. And we all gotta say good luck to you on your journey, on your journey of life. But. But I do think Danny and Nia are causing this cast to just spin in circles. And so I would like him to say goodbye, and I'm sorry to say that. And I'm gonna take us on a quick commercial break, then we're gonna come back and discuss all this. 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And I never thought that I'd want Lala to be that person, but at least somebody. And I kind of feel like maybe. Normally I think it would be Kristen, but Kristen's dealing with all that other shit she's got going on with Luke. And she's got a baby, 4 months, so she can't really teach everybody about the reality show. Britney also has been doing reality TV for 100 years, but she's. She was never like the. She was. She was always more of a supporting character in Vanderpump Rules, and so I don't think she's leading the charge. Not to mention she just got her ball drained since she's busy with that. So, look, we need a veteran. Schwartz is like a puppy dog. He's a golden retriever, so there's no he. It's not like he's leading anything on this show. So it's like we do need kind of an alpha personality that ordinarily we despise. But, like, on a show like this, we need, unfortunately. And I think that's Lala. And God bless that she's given us Lala, even though she infuriates a lot of us. A lot of the time I'm. I'm unfortunately happy that she's on the show, calling it as she sees it. Brittany says they all sort of shout over each other. I don't know. I'm reading my notes. The whole night was just a mess. They were all just drunk. And I'm. The next day when I see them all waking up, like, I sort of felt hungover. It was almost like a sense memory situation. Do you ever get like that when you're watching reality tv? I'm like, oh, wait, am I, Am I hungover? And then I realized, like, no, I'm just. We just spent like 10 minutes watching them drunk in a hotel room. And then we all of a sudden are waking up the next day and we're seeing sunshine. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm hungover. And then they show all this footage of Zach, Benji and Tom suite with all this food from the night before, all these pizzas, pizza boxes. And this one, Zach's like, I feel fresh as a daisy. It's his birthday. Meanwhile, Kristen, Luke. Kristen says she's better and less anxious, loose. Luke says it hurts to hear Kristen always say that he wants to go out and get drunk. And look, I want to understand Luke and I, I do get that they're going through this postpartum time and so emotions are high and they're arguing over probably looking back on it, nonsense. But it's like, well, I'm sorry that it hurts for you, Luke, to hear that Kristen's mad. You always are saying that you want to go out and get so fucked up. Like, I don't. And Luke's like, it's only been a couple of times that he's done this where he's gone out and gotten fucked up and then slept on the couch. And I just, I don't feel any sympathy for him because I'm like, you guys are four months. If that even happened one time after the baby came, I'd say, like, that's unacceptable because Kristen can't do that. If Kristen is not doing that and she can't do that. And you just said, this is a newborn baby who needs round the clock care. Like at that age. I don't know if people realize, like it's every couple of hours like that you have to feed them and wake them and then put them down. Wake them, put them down. It's like a. It sort of feels like you're in a hamster wheel. And unfortunately, that's what a baby needs when they're born. Right. Like you. That's how it is. And so even if it happened one time where Luke's like, I want to go and get fucked up, it's like, well, too bad, Luke. The baby's two months old. Like, you don't. You can't do that right now. Like, I'm sorry. And maybe that makes me a little too much of a square. And if they were both on the same page about it, if Kristen was like, yeah, I want you to go, then I would understand and say, okay, go, do what you want. But Kristen is obviously saying, like, that bothers me. And she's the one going through the. She's the one who just birthed a baby. And so I don't have any empathy for Luke being like, I wanted to. So. So what I said four times, I want it. It's like, well, the baby's only four months old. Like, what do you mean? It's crazy. And, yeah, so I'm just not on his side at all when it comes to this. Wanting to get drunk. And then also to say that to Kristin, who's not doing that and doesn't want to do that. Just. I don't know. Luke was just, yuck, yuck. That's how I found. I was like, yuck, yuck. But I'm trying to understand him, and he seems to just want to get drunk and fish. And so look, unfortunately, I think a lot of the guys are like that. I think. But didn't we talk about this? Of like, these men need to have hobbies that aren't nine hours long. Like, a fishing day is like a whole day. Has anyone gone fishing? It's not like I'm some big fisherman, but fishing's like a full day activity. Golfing's like 100 hours. Okay, so maybe you need to find an activity that takes you out of the house for an. So what do you mean fishing and golf? On top of the fact that they're. Danny and Luke are very clearly, like, working out pretty hardcore. They look great, but they're working out pretty consistently, I'd say. So it's like you're going for your workouts regularly and then fishing and golfing takes out all that time. So it's like, maybe you do need to get your ass in home and help. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to say it as a season. Then Michelle, Janet, and Brittany, they're in their own suite. Michelle's jump roping, question mark. Brittany is like, I just want to hang by the pool today because my drains, you know, I did sort of want, okay, I say this. It's Pride month. And I say this in nothing but support of the LGBTQ+ community, because I know Janet has said that she's bisexual. We do know that Britney has had her dalliances with ladies in the past. And Janet has also said that she's got a crush on Michelle. And so, unfortunately, I have to say that I was sort of hoping that maybe Janet, Michelle and Brittany could have a nice little menage a trois. Now, I don't think it happened because Brittany's dealing with the drain situation, so I'm not sure how that would work, but. And didn't Britney say last week, I want to make out with someone? But then she was like, I can only make out because. Probably because of the drains, but maybe because Michelle and Janet know about the drain. I don't know. I just would like them to do menageri trois and just to see. Maybe that'd be a good storyline for next season. Something else going on. We don't have to talk about Danny. Nia. That'd be nice. Then there's a scene with Luke and Danny where, you know Danny, I mentioned he looks great. Lala said the same thing. She's like, he's got a great body. He looks to me like he was on that. Remember the 90210 reboot? Maybe he was on that. I'm sure if I looked at IMDb, probably appeared in, like, a scene or something. But remember the 90210 reboot? I imagine Danny as, like, one of those cast members, and I don't mean that as any sort of shade. He just sort of looks like. He looks like. He would have been one of those, like a guest star. Which Sheena Shea was a guest star in that, wasn't she? So it wouldn't be out of the question. I should look that up. I don't feel like it, but maybe one day I will. But Luke brought his fishing pole to the Mexican ocean. Then Lala arrives and she. This is when she says, danny's got a stellar body and he likes showing off her his abs. She hates him with the fire of a thousand suns. And I didn't really understand even why was anyone else confused. Like, why did Lala just sort of sneak up on the beach to Luke and Danny? Because, you know, she didn't want to be with either of them. She hates them and she just. It was like, who organized the scene? It would have made more sense if Lala was, like, in her confessional saying, I wanted to Go apologize for how I acted to Danny. And so I went and met them on the beach. Or I. Or Danny saying, like, I asked Lala to meet us on the beach, but. And maybe I just missed it, but it's possible. It's possible. You guys, speaking of hanging on by a thread, I think I mentioned I'm. I'm still hanging on by that thread because we still got the construction in the backyard. The baby's been sick and teething. Did I. I didn't told you guys, this was just this week. This baby's been snotty, clingy and teething. It's been a nightmare. Then also, I gotta have. I'm sorry to get too personal on you, but I gotta have my colonoscopy on Friday. I'm losing it. I'm losing it. So if I sound a little. A little mean on the podcast, I apologize, but I'm doing my best. Anyway, the point is Lala arrived on the beach and I didn't understand. I'm like, why is she meeting them? She hates them. And she's like, danny, you left and there was no resolution. Oh, and then this is when they show that flashback because Danny's like, yeah, I was mad at Nia. And Danny, like, was scolded Nia for being supportive. And then she. I'm sorry, Daniel. Next time, while she's holding the baby and nursing the baby that for their fourth baby. I was so mad at him then. And then Danny's like, oh, yeah, Nia. And I's communication is so strong. I'm like, what? Huh? Turned into Tim Allen from Home Improvement. I said, huh, what? Because I don't feel like their communication is strong. I feel like maybe Danny is communicating in the way that he wants to at Nia. And then Nia's, I guess, accepting it. But is that communication? You be the judge. Who's to say? Who's to say? But then Danny's like, oh, I got PTSD and drama trauma from Janet saying that he sexually assaulted someone that he sexually assaulted, I guess. And allegedly he had to work weekly with his therapist because he was so angry. And he still has a wound, he says. And then he apologizes for liking the posts, but I just need to move on. Move on, move on. I can't do it. Not again. Danny and Janet and Nia need to move the fuck on and be friends, whether you like it or not. That's reality tv, baby. Okay? It's conflict and resolution. And if you're not looking to resolute, then you need to get the fuck off screen because it's too much. And this happens on all the shows and they dig their heels in. And I always say this. It's like in real life, I get it, you cut someone out in real life, there's certain people that you got to cut out of your life and you never speak to them again. And it's fine. You move on. There's this one theory I was just reading about where it's like, sometimes people come in your life, and then when you're spiritually done with them, like when the divine is recognizes that you're done with that person, you will never see them again. You know, have you ever had a friend that you were really close with in one point in your life and then you never see them again? But you think about them sometimes and you're like, oh, my God. And it was like that person was there in your life for a moment. And then when the universe, like, okay, you don't need that person to learn a lesson or to whatever, then that person has gone out of your life anyway. So in real life, I think that happens all the time, but on reality tv, that never is going to happen. And so you're either going to get fired and then you'll never talk to each other again, or you need to resolute on camera. And so they all need to sit their ass down. Resolute. And I do feel like the other cast members are trying to say, like, you guys need to move past. Like, that's what I think Lala is saying. Like, you need to get over the Janet thing. And yes, she's having Janet's side more, but that's her friend, so of course she's having her side more. But, yeah, I'm. I feel like she's trying to get them to move on. But if they can't move on, then we need to get fired, people. We need to start handing out them pink slips, because I can't watch them going round and round and round and round doing the same argument over again. Meanwhile, the gays and the lesbians are at the pool. Jasmine still sort of upset with Zach. But they're friends. They're fine. They're gonna be fine. Brittany arrives and tells Zack he wasn't being honest with Danny. And Zach's like, I am. I am. And then meanwhile, Michelle, Jesse, Tom and Janet. This is when they meet in the lobby bar and Michelle's bubbies out, and Jesse notices. And that's the spark. That's the spark. Because, I don't know, I Felt it. I felt it. I thought, like, this is. This is happening. Like, they're in love. And Lacy was nowhere to be found. Unfortunately for Lacy, I can't root for her and Jesse because Lacy also very clearly hates j. Jesse. So I don't. I don't have any choice but to. But to ship Michelle and Jesse. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but this group is going to go. They're going to go shopping. And Nia and Janet are obviously coming to a head. And Nia seems so mad at Janet, and I understand that her husband. She's going to be more mad at Janet than her husband. But, like, the amount of heat that she's got for Janet versus her husband just really pisses me off. And I. Yeah, I know that might be contradictory. Just sometimes I say, like, with significant others, you need to have their back. Like I would want. If Matt and I were on a reality show, I'd be like, matt, you just need to always have my back regardless. But the way that Danny talks to Nia just makes me uncomfortable. All of them, they make me uncomfortable, I'm sorry to say. And they're going on this shopping trip in Mexico, and Nia's got to bring the baby in the stroller and God bless the baby in the stroller. But I wonder if. Yeah, I feel bad every time I say that because it's like, I'm not anti baby. And I understand what Nia was saying on the show. She's like, the baby won't take the bottle or something. Didn't she say that? Maybe she did. Who's to say? But I get that she's taking care of her baby, but it's like, in real life, I don't think Nia would be forcing herself to go on a shopping trip in Mexico with Janet. She would just stay behind. She'd be like, I'm gonna stay behind with the baby. I'll meet you guys later. Like, there's. It's so unrealistic for her to hop in that sprinter van with the baby and got to feed the baby with her bubby for every two hours in between fighting with Janet amongst the Mexican shops. Like, there's. It's so odd that she's there and then the baby. The baby just reminds me of all of that. It makes me feel like I'm not in reality. It makes me feel like I'm watching a show and I don't like that. They need to hide it better. Figure it out. I don't know. I'm not the producer on this show, but it's like, seeing that baby, I'm like, oh, this is all just so weird. It's like a weird kind of setup, but they go shopping. Jesse brings up the meme liking. Kristen defends it. Nia sticks up for Danny again, and Janet is like, well, he did it. And it would have come out like. She's like, you're. I'm sorry for. Janet keeps apologizing. She's giving sort of a sorry, but. And this is unfortunately where Janet, I think, also needs to just, like, bite her tongue and say, I'm sorry, even though Janet doesn't. Doesn't mean any of it and obviously hates Danny. Nia and I'm on Janet's side fully when it comes to them. Unfortunately, I have no choice. But I do think Janet needs to just be like, okay, I'm sorry, and then just. And then just be quiet because we're going around in circles. And I kind of wish Andy Cohen would have texted them all and say, you guys need to figure this out, and we need conflict, and then we need the resolution, and you guys aren't doing the resolution part. Okay, like, get resolution and then start a new fight. Like, this is how. What I think would be way better is, like, Janet. For her to just say, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And then, like, start a new fight about something else with Danny and Nia. And it doesn't even have to. It could be about. It doesn't have to be about what it's about. You know, it could be about, like, the. How you hate them or what Danny did and stuff. But it would be fun, like, a new thing, and then, you know, you got to keep going through. You can keep fighting with the same person. Like, I'm all for that. I think frenemies on these shows is great. You just need to, like, resolute one fight and then start a new one. I think that's really the trick. Is that the trick? You know, like, what's on Potomac? You know, Karen and Giselle always did that so well. It was like, yeah, let's fight about this. I'm gonna say, you got a hot box and call you I know this. Or make fun of your shoes and you're walking around, you know, like, they would make fun of each other or go at each other, and then they'd make up, and then they'd start a new fight, and that was fun. And that makes you frenemies, and we like to watch that. So if Nia and Janet and Danny and Jason or whoever could just keep doing that. I think that would be the. The fix for this show. But they all go shopping. Oh, and yeah, Nia says that, you know, this. The Janet labeling Danny. Those things made it in headlines. And now that it's attached to Danny, and Janet keeps saying, look, it would have come out anyway. Like, this was all things that Danny did, and he is pushing Janet's buttons. And Janet says, having your husband do that could be really hurtful. That made me laugh. Get her. Because that was funny to me. And it was like, really? That was like, really? That was good. She said, having your husband do something like that could be really hurtful. I get that. And I thought, like, oh, that probably made Mia so pissed. And you could tell Nia got pissed. But Janet's like, I'm not sorry for saying the truth. I'm sorry about my delivery. And Nia's like, this is who she is. See, she's not sorry. She's showing us her true colors. And I'm like, the audience is actually seeing your colors right now. And I think, like, here's one of the ways that I think Danny and Nia went wrong this season is that they didn't realize last season, the audience loved them. And I always. I always say, we're watching these shows, they're going to take us on a roller coaster. So you can never get too loyal to anyone on the show, because the Bravo production, the editors, they're gonna make us like them and the next season and hate them the next season after that. Like, we're gonna love and hate them throughout the course of their run. And so you can never get too attached to anyone. And I think, like, Danny and Nia thought, like, oh, the audience likes us, and they hate Janet. And what they didn't realize is that Janet eventually was gonna have a good season. Like, in the history of Bravo, no one ever has. Just. It's pretty rare for somebody to always have a bad season. You look at even some of the most controversial figures in Bravo history. Like, Ramona's had really great seasons before, and then seasons where she's just complete, utter monster. Kelly Dodd has had seasons where we. The whole audience was like, she's the best reality star ever. And then, you know, like, then they're. The network will let them go or they give them a bad season or whatever. And so it will always happen. And I don't think that this group realizes that eventually Janet was going to have a good season. And I'm not even saying she's having a great season this season. But I think Nia thought like, oh, her saying that, like everyone's going to see Janet. This is Janet's true colors. And it's like, actually the audience is going to start to see your true colors, girl. Baby girl. Anyway, let's take another break and we're going to come back and talk about, you know, I feel like we're just, it's annoying to sort of have to talk about DNA, Nia, constantly. 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Zach confronts Danny, and he's like, benji told me you were drinking. And Zach is like, that's shady behavior. He's like, I don't care that you were drinking. I care that you were lying about it. And I've mentioned this before, Devil's advocate. I understand Danny hiding the booze because he's on this TV show where everyone's calling him and drunk or saying he's got. Makes everybody uncomfortable when he's drinking. And so I kind of understand why on camera, he's like, I'm gonna just go sneak my drinks. But at the same time, like, they're all catching your ass. Cut. Like, every time they show you doing it, Zach's like, oh, did you have the white claw on Brittany's Jimmy? He's like, I didn't do that. And. And then production's like, cut. And they show him doing it. Uncanny camera. They show him. On the hot mic moment, they say, danny's audio. And it's like, just him, like, cracking it open. Which I hate to call you a dumb fuck, but, like, what are you doing if you know you got a mic on, even if you're sneaking it? Like, why are you not taking off your mic pack? Are you not or. I don't know. You should be better by season three. You should be better about, A, getting off camera and B, turn off your microphone. Because production was. It said, like, Danny's audio, didn't it? Am I making that up? I don't know. But Danny brings up that PTSD from last summer. Lala leaves. Zach says they all have to talk because they're on a reality show. And then Zach and Danny make up. And this one, Brittany's like, tonight, I'm in my hoe era. I'm in my hoe era. She's entering that hoe era, which I don't. I saw the Eras tour twice, and I don't remember the ho era. But speaking of the Eras tour, I. You guys, I'm sort of addicted to that. That new Taylor Swift song from the Toy Story, which I haven't seen. And I'm actually kind of pissed at my son because not only I love him more than anything, but not only is he sick, and of course you feel so bad for him. That's the hardest part about them being. And it's like a mix between sick and teething. I don't know, it's like stuffy nose. But they say that a lot of the symptoms he's got, they say, could be from teething. Anyway, that's not the point. The point is Toy Story came out and he's just too young to take the movie theaters. And so I can't go. But I feel weird going to the movies to see Toy Story 5, even though I really want to. But I feel weird going without a baby when I have. Without a kid. When I have a kid. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it. I don't feel like there's a proper way for me to see Toy Story 5. And that's unfortunate. And so, you know, it's not my son's fault. But I do sometimes think, like, well, if you were a couple years older, we'd be going to see Toy Story 5. But I'm addicted to that song from it. I feel like there's crack in that song. Do you know what I'm talking about? The new it. I knew, yeah. And I know a lot of people. I have a friend who's like, it's the worst song. And I'm like, no. Like, I'm obsessed with it. Like, I can't stop singing it. And I'm a little bit of a. I'm like a low key. I'm a low key Swifty. I'm sorry, but I do that song in particular. I knew it. I knew, yeah. I knew it, I knew, yeah. And I like the way that she kind of goes up like, I knew it, I knew it, I knew. Ya. I don't know, you guys. I'm addicted to it. Okay, so Brittany's gonna be in her whole era at the restaurant. They're all. So they sort of go on this bar crawl and then the group stops at the restaurant. And this is when they bring up Tom's anal fissures, which was something that happened. I never thought, like, okay, you know how you. Trauma response things from your brain. Like. This was a reveal on an episode, a crossover episode of Summer House, when some of the Vanderpump Rules kids went over to the Summer House house. And Tom Schwartz had been dealing with the Xeno Fishers, and I guess he had diarrhea. Something was going on. And that happened. And I remember that. And we probably were recapping it on the show. I remember talking about ad nauseam on this podcast. But then after that, I thought I blocked her from my brain. Like, I had a trauma response where it just, like, left my brain, and I could not even remember it. And so when they showed this flashback to Schwartz at the summer house talking about his anal fissures, I was like, what? It was. It was like a memory coming back to me after it had been, you know, when people come back from war or something. I'm not. I'm not trying to compare watching Summerhouse to being at war, but I do think some. There is some emotional comparison to be made because I watched those episodes, took notes, and recapped it, and I still forgot that he had the anal fissures in Summerhouse. And so then when it came back up again, it was very. That's so Raven. Where all of a sudden my eyes went wide and I had that memory that had happened. And now I wonder if I'll black it out again. But it came up because Jesse says he likes colonics. Michelle says he did a colonic once a month, which maybe he shouldn't, because colonics are expensive and he can't afford to pay the bills. So maybe Jesse needs to save the money instead of getting the colonics, But I guess he's not doing him anymore. But he does. Schwartz is like, I'll do a colonic with you. And once again, I remind you that I'm getting my colonoscopy this week. And I know that's very personal information, and some people probably don't want to hear it, but you got to start getting your colonoscopies. I have to get them earlier because I have a history of colon cancer in my family, as well as I've had to been getting them, because they have to remove these polyps, and every time they remove a polyp, then you have to get the colonoscopy again every couple years. So I have to go every couple of years. But if you are 45 plus, you need to be doing it. And if you have a history, you need to talk to your doctor about it, because colon cancer is on the rise. And so I know it's disgusting to talk about it, but you need to know, and I need to know that I'm being heard. Am I being heard, sister? Yes. So Michelle and Jesse are. They're talking at this table about how they're getting along. And they're like, Janet and Nia, you guys need to get along. Look at us. And Michelle and Jesse are still in love. I'm sorry to say it. They talk about Nia and Janet at the table, though Nia says her words are twisted. And I'm like, it seems like your husband twists your words. Like when he was talking to you in the flashback about how you didn't stick up for him and stuff. I feel like he's the one twisting your words. Anyway, Michelle tells Nia that everyone feels uncomfortable when Danny drinks. Because that's the thing. Like, every time she brings it up. And I was glad Michelle said it, but it's like, every time Nia says, well, everybody gets drunk and Zach gets too drunk and Brittany gets too drunk, and I always am shouting at the screen like it's because Danny makes everybody uncomfortable. Like, that's it. Like. And maybe some of the other ones do make them uncomfortable, but nobody's saying anything. But from what we can see as an audience member, the only ones who are making people uncomfortable when they're drunk are Danny. Like, Jasmine's not getting wasted in making everyone uncomfortable. Brittany is just getting drunk and talking about her. Her drains. Like, she's not making everybody uncomfortable. Zach, like, he sometimes is, like, shouting. Like, earlier in the episode when he's like, shut up, everybody. What was he yelling about? I don't know. Sometimes he, like, yells, and, like, that can make people uncomfortable. I understand that, but Nia. I'm like, that's the difference, you dummy. Like, I understand. I'm trying to have your back here. But it's like, that's. It's a very clear thing. Like, I don't know how everybody could see it. Like, stop saying that. Everybody else. Or comparing everybody else. But she did compare everyone else. And then Janet, meanwhile, texts the. She texts, I said Texas. She texts, texts, I can't talk today. Texts the other group, the pool group. And immediately. And it's like, yeah, Nia saying, jasmine, Zach and Brittany get drunk and makes get too drunk, blah, blah, blah. And I was sort of happy that Janet texted that, because I think it'll be good for the show and at least get us some other layers from the show. Like, if that was my friend, I'd be pissed at Janet because I'd be like, what the fuck? Like, you threw. You threw Nia under the bus. But I know that they're not friends, so it's like, fine, throw under the bus. But it is gonna cause some other issues in the group. And at least. At least we're getting somewhere. Janet also threw Jesse under The bus. She says something about him being half a million dollar in debt sister. Yes, Janet did leave the table crying, but not until after she said that Danny is still doing weird shit and making everybody uncomfortable. Now, the other thing I gotta call Janet out for is, like, stop leaving the table. Like, stop leaving the group. And Danny and Nia were the same when they left that hotel. Hang early the night before. Like, you guys got to sit your ass down and film the scene if you're gonna be filming the scene. Otherwise, stay home and don't come on the cast trip. But we can't have you guys leaving the set. This is a hot set. This is. That's what they call it when you're on set, when. When lights are on and the camera's geared up and ready to go and the red lights on, that's a hot set. And so you need to stay on the hot set and you need to deal with all the issues that are going on or you need to get your ass off camera. Because it's frustrating when cast members and I feel this way on all the shows when they leave, they run out and whatever. Anyway, she calls Jason and Michelle's sticking up for Janet at the table. I'm loving Michelle this season. I am. Never thought I'd say that. That's the end of the episode. Next week it's more boozing and more fighting, probably more talking about Danny and Nia. And again, I apologize. Like, I. I know for the podcast. It's probably annoying to every week. Hear me. Especially if you're against. I know. Like, if you're on Danny and Nia's side, like, it must be annoying. And I hear from you because I know people reach out to me and they. If they're on Danny, Nia's side, and they hear me every week talking about them and how I do not care for them on the show, then they get mad at me, and I'm just here trying to get my opinion on the microphone. And I had their backs last season, but, you know, we're on this Bravo roller coaster and Bravo's telling me another thing this season, so. Yeah. Cause it as a. Seize it. But. So I understand that it could be annoying, but blame the show then, because they're only giving us so much to work with here. And so until they get other storylines going on, then unfortunately we're gonna have to keep talking about Danny's drinking and making everybody uncomfortable. That's what it is. Okay, that was the end. What else do we got to talk about? You know, What? There's a lot going on in the Bravo universe because we got Orange County's coming back and it's the 20th season of Orange county, and so I am going to be covering it. I was kind of on the fence about, like, what shows we're going to cover next because we're doing the Valley Summer House just ended. I'm not into Indocity at the moment. We'll talk about that in a minute. But Orange county, it's going to be the 20th season. So I was like, oh, we have. We just have to do that one. It's like an historic season, 28 years. And then there also is going to be the Real Housewives of Ultimate Girls trip where it's like the 20th anniversary thing. And they came out with a trailer for that. If you haven't watched it, the trailer, I think looks excellent. It looks so good. And it's like a group of the main gals. It's like Lisa Barlow, Kyle Richards, Countess Lewin, Giselle, Portia. Who else? I'm sure I'm missing somebody, but they are going to a few different cities and they're meeting up with other housewives across the across the globe. Although they're not meeting up with any from Dallas. The trailer made me laugh because it was like showing clips from the first season of each one of the franchises. So they even show a clip from Miami. They show a clip from Salt Lake City, Potomac, Atlanta, Beverly Hills, Orange County. And there's not a stitch from Dallas or D.C. and I. D.C. was a one season wonder. I would have liked if they pop by or something, but Dallas was around for quite a while. So the fact that they're not even acknowledging that it existed in that trailer was just making me laugh. But that's coming in August. I'm excited to dive into that in Orange county to celebrate our roots, our Housewives roots. And so the Orange county trailer just came out too. And it looks good. Although the trailer seemed to lean into the nostalgia of it all. And so I think the. The series will too. From what I understand, there is drama in Orange county. But like, the trailer was just kind of focusing on the nostalgia of it all. And if you've been noticing, Bravo has been kind of keeping a lot of the drama back in some of the trailers, which I think is the right move because sometimes when the trailers show too much drama and then the seasons suck. That happens on Beverly Hills a lot where it's like the trailer looks really good and looks like there's a lot of drama and then there's five episodes in a row where nothing happens. And so I'd rather them kind of hold back in the trailer and then give us a really good season. That's my personal opinion. In the city, though, real quickly, I just want to mention Amanda's hoarding. He does. What is all that shit? I. How do I put this? When it comes to Amanda and Kyle, like, trying to take out the west of it all and just judge based off of in the city, you know, because I try to judge based off the shows what the episodes are showing us. So if I were to take out the west of it all, which of course makes me hate Amanda and West, that dummy. But if I were to take that out of things and just be judging the in the city, I would have been on Amanda's side when it comes to Kyle him bringing people back. Although then we learned this week, like, the people that he brought back was, like, a male and a female. So I don't think there was, like, any sexual situation going on. But maybe it was inappropriate for him to bring them back the night Amanda was leaving. But. But it was like, Amanda was the one who decided to move out of the house. And it's like she's got. She's the one making these big decisions and then wanting to also decide the rules on how people react to these big decisions. And it's like, okay, well, you're the one leaving. And then if you are leaving, and if I was Kyle, I'd be like, you need to get your shit out of here. Like, he's being too nice about the shit. And obviously he's trying to figure out what's going on with the two of them and save the marriage or whatever. But I would throw all her shit out the window, because when I saw that room and the fact that she said, oh, I'm just gonna put this on the spare bedroom and the bed for a little while. And then she never cleaned that shit up. I'm sorry. Kyle was right to call the organizers, but I. If I was him, I would have thrown him in that shit in trash bags. And I'd say, sorry, if you're moving out, then you can't have both places. Like, you either. I mean, she wants her cake and to eat it too. And then seeing that scene where she was talking to her dad and trying to make it seem like Kyle was also, like, supportive of this decision. I'm like, I don't think Kyle really was supportive of this decision. You were the one who said, like, I'm doing this, but Then the real kind of thing that pisses me off is her shit. And Kyle's made more than enough mistakes for me to not be on his side. Okay, but when it comes to the hoarding, you can't decide to move out of my house and, like, make me keep your stuff. Like, you're an adult. She. Sometimes. I don't know, maybe it's an arrested development situation, but, like, some of her behavior, I'm like, oh, she just seems so immature. And him. I mean, look, everybody on these shows can seem immature at times. We all can. But for her to say I'm moving out of the house, but then, like, leaving my shit, not only leaving it there, but leaving it a mess, I'd be like, okay, well, then I'm throwing it away because you didn't clean it up, you didn't organize it before you left this house, and you made the decision to leave this house, and now you want me to keep it. Like, I'm a fucking storage unit. Go get a storage locker somewhere and put your shit in there. What are you leaving it at the house for? And so you're having both houses. And then she had the audacity to get to that new apartment, and she. I don't know, she told her dad, who. She's gotten her phone as Big Daddy. Don't even get me started on that. What the fuck was that? The fuck. Why did she actually get me started on that? Why the fuck did she have her dad and the phone as Big Daddy? That was weird to me. I'm sorry. And I. Maybe it was like a playful joke, and I. But it was not. I did not find it playfully funny is what I'm trying to say. I found it very uncomfortable. And so anyway, then for her to tell. I think she was telling him. She was telling Big Daddy, like, hey, I can't wait to be able to keep this place clean and organized. And I'm thinking, what in the dad knew? Because she even said the dad knew that she's a mess and a messy person. Slob. Slovenly. Slo. Is that a slobbish? What's the word I'm looking for? Where you have all your shit everywhere. She's messy, okay? And. And she's always given Kyle all this shit about him back at the par. Meanwhile, she was having an affair with west at this time, I believe. Or that's the timeline, I believe, whether they're telling us that or not. And so then she's saying to Frank or the dad, Big Daddy, like, oh, I'm gonna be able to keep this apartment clean. I'm like, girl, you need to stop lying to everybody. And you're including yourself because I think you're lying to yourself because there's no way you're keeping that place clean. It's gonna look like an episode of Hoarders in about a weekend. Because I've seen. I've seen what you've done to that other place, and I've seen your room on Summer House. And so you need to get your ass to an organizing class or something, call up the home Edict girls and get to work, because you need to learn some lessons, baby girl. And I'm sorry to say that, but it's true. Because you're just leaving your shit everywhere. And Kyle throw her stuff out the window. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I would have been supportive of that if he threw it out the window. If we were watching the show, even if the west stuff didn't happen and I saw Kyle throwing her stuff out the window after she moved out, I think I would have been on Kyle's side. Even without the west and Amanda Vidal, I would have still been on Kyle's side. Knowing that he's a cheater and all. I would have still been on his side when it comes to her stuff because that's too messy. And you. I feel like it's just. It's just not okay to just leave it all there on the bed. And I'm not a. I don't like a mess at all in general, but especially if you decide to move out of my apartment and then you're gonna make me keep all your mess there. Absolutely not. I'd say it's going in the. In the Glad bags and out the window into a dumpster or some. Somewhere, I don't know. It's just fall into the street maybe. I'm not sure. Okay. I'm not saying I support littering, but I do support getting rid of Amanda's shit. I'm sorry to spend so much time on that, but it was really pissing me off. The other people on the city are not of any interest to me, unfortunately, and I'm sorry to say that. So we're not going to be diving too deep on in the city, because honestly, this week I was like, I don't want to watch this at all. I felt so free from the shackles of Summer House this week. It was like a weight was lifted off my shoulders. And I'm like, I don't have to keep up within the city. Like I don't want to. I don't believe, and I don't need to. And I just feel like there's a lot of cast members on that show that are floppish. Like, God bless Andrea and Lexi. They're both stunningly beautiful. But then what are we doing? I don't. A lot of these cast members are like, what are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? It's just not for me, maybe. And maybe they'll get there in season two. But it's like, I'm holding on for these Amanda and Kyle scenes, and I'm exhausted by those because culturally, everything's been about Summer House for the last few months. It's been overwhelming. And you can't turn on the news or go on social media without seeing stuff about Amanda, West, Kyle, that whole thing. And so by now, I'm, like, exhausted. I'm drained. They drained me from all of that, and it was thrilling, but it's draining. And so now that Summer House is over, I'm like, I need a breather from all of them. And instead of giving me a breather, Bravo is like, hey, here's in the city. And I'm like, I don't want to be in the city right now. I wanted that for years. We all wanted that for years, and you guys refused to give it to us. Now you're giving it to us at the time that we're all so exhausted by all of it. And maybe that you should have done better planning. Bravo. I'm sorry. I love you all my heart, but you should have planned better. It's not my fault. You overwhelmed us with all the Summer House content, and now you expect me to sit in the city with Yvonne. No, thanks. God bless her. And. And the husband and the rest of them. Some of them, I don't even know their names. And Kenny, God bless him, finding the dad. Although then I just was seeing on online today, like, his brother or stepbrother or half brother or something was saying that it was all for the show. I don't know. It all felt very bleak to me, and it. And I think, like, you could tell it was all for the show. Watching reality TV long enough, you could see, like, he was sort of doing a storyline. Like he sort of was trying to have a storyline going. I'm not. That's not to say I'm not happy that he hasn't reunited with his father, if that's what happened, but, like, it felt very like for a TV show situation to me and that I don't know. So I feel like I'm just complaining about in the city. I am. I gotta turn it around and get positive, sister. Yes. You know what? I'm just trying to cause it as it sees it. And, you know, whenever I say calls it as I sees it, I think of Katie Maloney. And did you guys see she's going to be on the House of Stassi show, which was such a surprise to me. Like, I saw a clip. Apparently she's on the cast of that show and I've been missing my Katie Maloney because we've had a lot of time off from Katie Maloney. And so I'm like, oh, am I gonna have to watch that show? I wasn't expecting to watch that show, but now that I saw Katie Maloney's on, I'm like, I gotta hop on there and get myself a Maloney sandwich. Something about her makes me want to watch that show now because I've been missing her. So, you know, that is what it is. I'm maybe gonna have to watch that. I'm not gonna be recapping it, so don't ask. I. I can't go that far, but I might binge it one night. Like, if I'm bored, I think I'm gonna put it on just to catch up with Meloni. And I hope she's on it a lot. If they're teasing me and I turn it on and she's barely on, I'm pissed. You hear me, Hulu? I love you, but if you fool me, if you bamboozle me with that show, I'm being mad as hell and mad as hell. Like the Dixie Chicks, mad as hell. I'm not ready to make nice I'm not ready to back down My TikTok's been showing me a lot of that song. Do you know that song by the Chicks? So mad as hell and I don't have time to go round and round and round I'm too late to make it right Wouldn't if I could. That bridge to that song, you guys. When I tell you, when I tell you that song. The way that I have to scream that bridge. And if I hear it in a car, yeah, I hear it. I'm just. The windows are coming down and I'm shouting that thing out the window about being made of sale. And you know what? It's an all time great song and I want to thank them for giving it to us. And so I'll leave us on that note. I love you all so much for listening. Have A great week. And next week we'll be back with our Valley recap, and then we'll be diving into Orange County. I think it starts like July, so then that'll be our next show. But for now, we're just gonna be doing the Valley, and then we're gonna touch on in the city as we do these Valley recaps too. But for now, I bid you adieu. Oh, did you guys hear? Wait, one more thing. Bravo update was that I saw today that ladies of London is on pause. Which the only thing I want to say about that is it's funny to me that on pause has now become like a network term where it's like, oh, it's on pause. Which basically means, like, the show was canceled, but that they might bring it back in, like, five years. If they decide, like, they want to reboot it, then they will, but otherwise, it's like that show's dead, unfortunately. I know people loved it. I didn't. I haven't binged it yet. I know. Don't yell at me. I had a baby when it came out. But I've heard it's great. People love it. And I keep in my head, I'm like, oh, one day I'll binge it. But now maybe I'm like, I'm might not binge it because it's over. 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