Everything’s Perfect Except…Starting Over

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Everything’s Perfect Except…Starting Over

Podcast: Everything’s Perfect
Hosts: Autumn Calabrese & Donald Stamper
Date: June 16, 2026

Episode Overview

In this episode, Autumn Calabrese and co-host Donald Stamper get real about the idea of “starting over”—from revamping careers to moving across states, all while wrestling with societal expectations and personal fulfillment. They respond to listener questions about fitness myths (progressive overload and workout durations), the courage to make big life shifts, and the deeper work behind lasting personal transformation. Unfiltered, honest, and encouraging, the episode is packed with practical takeaways for anyone in a messy transition or longing for change.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Debunking Fitness Myths: Progressive Overload & Workout Duration

• Progressive Overload Explained

  • Autumn calls out social media trends that preach overly rigid workout advice.
  • [01:07] Autumn: “First of all, people need to understand what [progressive overload] even means...you can do progressive overload literally with anything.”
  • Emphasizes that progressive overload isn’t just about lifting heavier weights each week—movement quality, time under tension, sets/reps, and tempo all count.
  • Short workouts (e.g., 15–30 minutes) can create significant results, not just long hour-plus sessions.

• Listener “Phone a Friend” Q&A: Are Short Workouts Enough?

  • [09:28–11:14] The hosts address a listener’s anxiety over whether 15–30 min workouts for busy parents are enough for muscle growth and longevity.
  • Autumn notes the success of her programs like 21 Day Fix and 21 and Done, both with 30-minute routines, and provides evidence of real-world results:
    • [12:56] “Saying that you can't get progressive overload in 30 minutes is ridiculous…these are 30-minute long workouts and people have fantastic results.”
  • Both hosts stress that some movement is always better than none:
    • [15:18] “If the option is nothing or 21 minutes, where are you going to get progressive overload from doing nothing or from doing 21 minutes?” – Autumn

• Realism in Fitness Goals

  • Recognizing that hour-long workouts are not always accessible for everyone, especially those balancing family or work.
  • 10–15 min workouts may not yield dramatic physical changes, but they benefit cardiovascular health, mental health, and maintenance.

2. Navigating Life Changes & “Starting Over”

• Letting Go of the Outside World’s Expectations

  • [28:40] Autumn: “You gotta stop thinking about the outside world...you have one life. That’s it. This is what you get. So it’s up to you to make the most of it.”
  • Autumn shares her moves from St. Louis to LA, her stint in Texas, and how trusting her gut—even when it meant leaving comfort or braving judgment—was vital for fulfillment.

• Stories of Major Life Transitions

  • Donald reflects on moving from LA to Arizona and previously to Nashville, noting how scary yet rewarding initiating change can be.
  • Both hosts emphasize it’s normal to feel fear, but regret from not taking the leap often outweighs the discomfort of uncertainty.

• The Myth of Permanence

  • [48:04] Autumn: “You can always undo it for the most part…if you start a new job and hate it, go do something else...Nothing’s permanent.”

• Permission to Try, Fail, and Reset

  • Sharing failed moves and restarts (leaving LA then returning), Autumn insists that setbacks don’t have to be endpoints:
    • [50:47] “I came, I tried, it didn’t work out. I went back, I reset, and I came back again.”

3. Personal Development & Real Transformation

• What Sparks Real Change?

  • [52:25] Listener asks about personal development, referencing Autumn’s Tony Robbins experience, wanting to know what triggers genuine life transformation.
  • Autumn says real change began when she was “so fucking sick and tired of my own bullshit”:
    • [52:25] “You just have to be so fucking sick and tired of your own bullshit. And that’s where I was at.”
  • She describes attending “Date with Destiny” by Tony Robbins. Rather than vague therapy, she craved direct, actionable feedback and a “mental/emotional breaking point” to create lasting habits.

• Understanding Conflicting Beliefs

  • [58:45] “If you’re going to be an entrepreneur, be prepared to have failures…If you try to avoid failure but want great things, you’re frozen.”
  • Learning to identify and resolve internal value conflicts is key for forward motion.

• How to Approach Personal Development

  • Start small: Ten minutes a day reading, walking while listening to audiobooks, or integrating personal development into routines.
  • [62:20] “If you’re not a reader…I like to audio listen. I’ll go outside, I’ll take a walk...I retain it better.”
  • Be consistent; your brain will absorb the lessons you need, even if you don’t remember everything.

• Advice for Listeners Considering Seminars or Programs

  • [59:55] “Oh, I would absolutely say go [to the Tony Robbins event]…be clear on why you want to go, reinforce what you learn after.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Fitness Dogma

• Autumn [01:07]: “Pick a workout, and if you do the workout more than once, more than likely you’re going to end up with progressive overload. So, for people to say the only way to get progressive overload is to do an hour-long workout—it’s so stupid.”

On Life Change

• Autumn [28:40]: “You end up staying somewhere you’re not happy and you’re not fulfilled, and you have one life. That’s it.”

• Donald [31:13]: “The alternative is literally things stay the same…take the risk. But…make sure you’re not just running away from difficult situations.”

• Autumn [46:54]: “Was it terrifying to go do it on my own? Of course. Is it overwhelming and do I have anxiety most days because of it? Yes…But it’s also really cool and exciting.”

On Self-Trust & Growth

• Donald [44:20]: “Doing that thing reminds you that you’re that bitch that got those clients. And if I did it there, I can do it over here, or I can do it someplace else.”

• Autumn [48:41]: “If you see something that you want, go after it, because you see it for a reason. What one of the saddest lives is…making a choice to live a life that will not allow you to achieve [your vision].”

Personal Development

• Autumn [52:25]: “I was just in a really negative place…and I had to take a step back and look at myself and be like, ‘What is this?’...The thought of losing a job that I love so much was like, you got to do something because this is unacceptable.”

• Autumn [59:44]: “I don’t fucking care about World War I, but can you teach me this so I can manage my damn emotions as I go forward?”

• Donald [63:36]: “You’ll never...Your brain will catch the things that you need in the moment. Some people might...listen to the same audiobook three times, and each time you’ll gain new information.”

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Important Timestamps by Topic

• Progressive Overload & Fitness Trends: [01:07], [09:28], [12:56]
• Are Short Workouts Enough?: [09:28–15:18]
• Transition Stories—Moving & Starting Over: [28:40], [30:05], [35:52], [41:55], [44:20], [46:54], [48:41]
• Personal Development/Transformation: [52:25], [53:54], [58:45], [59:44], [62:20], [63:36]

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Episode Flow & Tone

The conversation is candid, warm, and unpretentious. Both hosts openly share their screw-ups, anxieties, and wins, providing permission to embrace uncertainty and “the messy middle.” With practical advice and notable vulnerability, they show that you don’t need perfection—just self-trust and a willingness to try.

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Summary Takeaways

• Movement: Any movement is better than none; progressive overload has many paths and isn’t restricted to long workouts.
• Life Change: Prioritize your fulfillment over others’ opinions. Life choices, even big ones, are reversible.
• Personal Growth: True transformation comes when you’re ready to stop tolerating your own excuses; seek learning modalities that resonate with you, and start small but consistent.
• Self-Trust: Remind yourself of your capabilities—if you’ve built success before, you can do it again.

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Connect

For questions or to share your story, reach out at everythingsperfectpodcastmail.com or connect on Instagram @everythingsperfectofficial.

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Transcript

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[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Your theme song is 525, 600 workouts.

[Autumn Calabrese]

I am so freaking over everybody on social media. And they're like catchphrases. Everybody's like, autumn, we need progressive overload. And I'm like, first of all, people need to understand what that even means. Think about, it's progressively so, like over time, overloading the muscle, giving it more stimulus. You can do progressive overload literally with anything.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Like any workout. Pick a workout, and if you do the workout more than once, multiple times, more than likely you're going to end up with progressive overload. So for people to say the only way to get progressive overload is to do an hour long workout. So stupid.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

How you feeling?

[Autumn Calabrese]

I got hit by a truck.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

They say working out's great, but I gotta tell you, they say it's good for you.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Sometimes it's questionable. No, actually, I'm really excited about the stuff that I'm filming. And it's not like I'm not doing a bunch in one day. I'm doing one workout a day. Sort of between 45 minutes and an hour. But I love, like, what I'm doing for them. And I'm like, damn.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

I was gonna say, let's talk about that for a second. Like your, your app.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

And you're, you know, this is the Good Mood crew and the first time you really, like, are totally producing everything on your own. Right? Like,

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[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

How does it feel?

[Autumn Calabrese]

Feels like I'm a oneman show. No, it feels good. Like, I mean, it's fun. Don't get me wrong. Like, obviously, it's amazing when I get to do workouts with body in there. There's a whole team behind me doing everything, and I get to just be talented. But there's also something to be said for doing my own app and my own version and getting to film stuff as I have the ideas and, like, get it out there, like, and have, you know, my communities, over 2,000 people. And, like, awesome. You know, I keep saying to them, I'm like, this is for you guys. So, like, what do you want? Like, yes, I'm gonna always stay on top of the science and everything that's going on, but this is for you. So what do you want? Like, and so I get to create based on what they're asking me for, and I'll always create based on what I'm seeing, too, and what I'm learning. But. But, yeah, it's fun. It's just a lot of work because it's like, write the workouts right? Like, I'm never just throwing random stuff together. So it's like, write it and then, you know, I put it on my slides and make sure the lighting's right and the camera and the thing and the audio. And God forbid, if I up in the middle, I'm just like, oh, if

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

a resistance loop snaps.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Resistance loop snapped on me today. I was like, damn it.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Or like, the one that I film. I think it's in there. Last time I was here, I did a workout and the memory card, like, ran out. We had to do a quick switch. It's like, dang it.

[Autumn Calabrese]

When you're like, I have. I mean, I've always respected all the teams I work with. Like, I know everybody's got their thing and they're. They do it and something I don't have to think about, but, like, there's a whole nother level of respect for, like, sound.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Lighting and the editing team. Because I'm like, oh, this sucks.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Like, now you're all those things. Talk about team A.C. i mean. Oh, well, that's awesome.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Other than that, it's. It's super fun, and I'm loving getting to do it, and I'm really excited about the two things that I'm like, I'm redoing hormone health for the app. Just making a tiny little tweaks. Nothing big, like, because the science is the science.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

But I'm redoing the workouts for them because I wanted to do the workouts in real time. And then I just tweaked the nutrition just the tiniest little bit. There was some things that once I launched, I was like, oh, I could have made that a little better.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

So in your app right now, there's a couple. I don't feel like we've talked a lot about it on the podcast, so I'm just going to ask a few questions that people might want to know. There's all. There's a handful of programs, like three or four programs available now.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah, well, so when this goes up. When this episode goes up, huh? The one I'm filming right now will probably already be up. Or like. Yes, it'll probably be up. I'll still be uploading workouts, but it's an eight week program and so I'm getting ahead of it right now.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

So that'll be going up. But yeah, 21 and done is on there. Hustle Hard is on there. Bike and Build is on there. So there's those three. There's a bunch of like one off classes. Pilates, Matt, Pilates, Door track Pilates.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

So are, are people in your app, do you. Do they. Are they picking what program to start with or do you have like a majority doing a specific one right now?

[Autumn Calabrese]

I think a lot of people started with 21 and done because that is sort of like a spin off of 21 Day Fix. Like, like it's not exactly like 21 Day Fix, but sort of inspired by. Yeah, a lot of people are doing Hustle Hard. I think there's a good mix of who's doing both, like one or the other. But the other beautiful thing that I love about it is like, Look, I've got 18 different programs on Bodi. I've got a lot of people in my app because of the community and like I'm in there every day and talking to them and macros and all that stuff that are also, they're also

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

working out with your body.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Body and doing some of those workouts. But then they're over there for my coaching and nutrition and the community and having like that and then you know, they'll jump into something else like whatever. I'm like new stuff I'm bringing.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

As like as I upload.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

That's really cool.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

So if anyone. And we actually, we have a phone, a friend about workouts. So I think it's a good thing to bring up.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Don't let me

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

this shake by the way is slapping so hard.

[Autumn Calabrese]

It was so good. I was.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

But if someone wants to check out the app.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah. Good Mood Crew and go. You would. The easiest way is to either go to goodmoodcrew.com and sign up there because the website is launched for it, or to just go on my Instagram, in my bio, in my link tree. It's there.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

And they'll be able.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And they'll be able to find it. Don't try to find it through the app Store because it's actually hosted under Playbook, the technology of Playbook. And it's hard to do it that way.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

How do I get Playbook? And then look, you'll.

[Autumn Calabrese]

No matter what, you'll end up getting Playbook. But then you'd have to look for me the app. And it gets a little bit funky that way. So it's just easier to go to good mood crew.com and I have all the beverages. Just so in case you're wondering, she's a hydrated. She's something.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

All right, well, let's dive into this phone of friends.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Let's do it.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

My question is. I love 15, 20 and 30 minute workouts. They have worked with me po. They have. I'm sorry, I'm trying to read really fast because it's a long mail. Okay, I'm getting ahead of myself. 30 minute workouts. They have worked with me to positively change my body over the past six years. Within that time, I've had two children. And in this busy season of life at 31 years old, those 15 to 30 minute workouts are really what is practical for me. I enjoy listening to a variety of health and fitness podcast and so many of them are knocking on short workouts saying that they cannot stimulate your muscles enough to create progressive overload. And the change that we should be and the change that we should be aiming for as we start to lose muscle in 30s and 40s and beyond. I listen to these things and then it makes me question and ruminate on what I'm doing. But really, as a working mother, managing all of the things in life, if I can find the time in my day to work out for 15 to 30 minutes, whatever that looks like and follow a video, it makes me feel good. And I know I have muscle on my body. Isn't that enough? I listened to one the other day and this woman mostly works with pre menopausal and postmenopausal women and she was absolutely saying that. Sure, if you're. If you enjoy the 30 minute workouts, go for it. But you should really be doing three to four hour long sessions a week doing the exact same movement over and over again. Focus on progressive overload or else you will never see the muscle tone and increase as you age. What are your thoughts? And she said a few other things, but I think that captures the question.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Geez. Okay, first of all, I am so freaking over everybody on social media and they're like catchphrases. Because right now progressive overload is what everybody is talking about. Which by the way is the program that is going up. Right. Like the one I've been, I'm working on filming it right now. By the time this comes out, at least the first couple weeks of it will be out. But it's like people need to understand what that even means because everybody's like, autumn, we need progressive overload. We knew. And I'm like, first of all, you can do progressive overload literally with anything.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Like any workout. Pick a workout and if you do the workout more than once, multiple times more than likely you're going to end up with progressive overload. Because this is, think about, it's progressively so like over time overloading the muscle, giving it more stimulus. There's multitude of ways to do that. It's not just every single week lift heavier. Because that, that hits a breaking point. Yeah, always it like you're, you're only going to get to a certain weight that you can lift and you don't always go up in your weight every single week. That, that it's not like, oh, I'm automatically stronger and I have to go up again. Yeah, it's movement quality is one way to get progressive overload time under tension. So maybe the eccentric muscle contraction is being worked instead of, you know, instead of just up and down, it might be like up on 1, down, 2, 3. So now you have more time under tension. Yes, you can add more load, but you could also add more sets, you could also add more reps, you could, like I said, change the tempo. So for people to say the only way to get progressive overload is to do an hour long workout and do

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

the same stupid every single.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Well, yes, you should repeat workouts because you want to drill the movement patterns to get a little bit better. Okay, let's take 21 day fix, for example. The OG 21 day fix.

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[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

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[Autumn Calabrese]

Seven workouts. You're doing it every day, right? Because two of the workouts are active recovery days.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Right.

[Autumn Calabrese]

So you got five. You do those same workouts for three weeks. Those are 30 minute long. The pattern is set. It's 60 second intervals, 30 seconds rest. But you keep coming back to that workout. And in those 60 second intervals, if, let's say we're doing squats, by week three, you're probably going to be lifting heavier than you were lifting in week one and you're going to grab heavier weight because you know that you can do heavier.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

As long as you have it as an option, right?

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Or you might end up getting in more reps in that minute long interval because you're better at the movement pattern. You've drilled the movement pattern enough that you can move a little faster through it. So. Or you might slow it down. Like I said, you might slow your tempo down and so you have less reps but you have more time under tension. So saying that you can't get progressive overload in 30 minutes is ridiculous because if you go and look at a program, 21 day fixed, 4 weeks for everybody, 9 week control freak. These are 30 minute long workouts and people have fantastic results. Weight loss, muscle definition got stronger by the end. Don't get me wrong, I love a 60 minute workout, but it's.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

But even, yeah, I know this isn't your program, but a lifting program that's was on body for a long time. Body beast.

[Bretzky]

None of those.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

None of those. Right. None of those workouts are an hour. Like the longer ones are 45, maybe they'll push to 50 minutes. But also my favorite ones are at about 30 minutes and hammer and chisel.

[Autumn Calabrese]

30 to 35 minutes.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah. And people like have seen amazing results from doing it. You know what I don't like about the whole people discourages people from doing anything. When you say well if you like it, fine, do it. But if you really want to see results or if you really want to see progression, you should be doing four hour long workouts a week.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And it's just not always realistic. Yeah, Look, I have three day split on body for a reason. Three days a week, 45 to an hour long in terms of the workout. And I tell people get other movement in but that would be better than nothing. Yeah, 21 and Done. It's 21 minutes. But I literally, when I filmed 21 and Done, I filmed it over the course of three weeks. And I talk about progressive overload. So we do the same workouts but each week I'm like, I'm going up in weight this week I feel stronger. There were a few moves where I didn't necessarily go up in weight in from week one to week two, but maybe by week three I did. But movement quality got better like and I overloaded it different ways where I'd go up in weights and I'd come down a little bit in reps. So it's just one way of doing it. But again if somebody, if the option is nothing or 21 minutes, where are you going to get progressive overload from doing nothing or from doing 21 minutes?

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Right, right.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Hello. Now. No, go ahead.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Well, I was going to say I don't know if this is the same like you are the fitness professional, but even like this little daily push up habit I'm doing and last month I did 50 push ups a day and in May I upped it to 60. And my intention is to at least for the rest of the year keep this habit going and every month up it by 10 pushups. That's like where I'm at now. Maybe that's progressive overload and you know what I mean? Like I'm getting stronger, able to do more pushups than I was when I started.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Right.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

And it just seems like I, that is, that's such a small part of my day that is making a difference. It's making, I can feel the difference. I can see the difference in my chest. And so I, I, I like I just said I don't want people to feel like if they don't set aside an hour block of time right. That they're just not going to be able to hit their goals.

[Autumn Calabrese]

I do think, look, if you start to get down to less than 30 minutes and even 21 done. I mean, but it's 21 minutes of work plus a warmup, plus a cooldown. But we got 21 minutes of work. But even that, like anything much less than that, you're getting like, great, fine. If you're doing 10 or 15 minutes here and there, that's great. It's better than doing nothing. And that's. If that's all you can do right now, that's fantastic. And do that because it's still going to get you something compared to absolutely nothing. Are you going to see huge weight loss, muscle building, muscle definition? Probably not. It's probably going to help you maintain. It could help depending on if you're doing cardio or something, build cardiovascular health. Of course it's going to help muscle a little bit. But yes, at a certain point, you can't cut all the way down to like, oh, I'm doing five minutes, I'm doing ten minutes.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

I agree. Like, and even when I remember when we filmed Healthy Obsession, it was the first, it was like the test run of what the super blocks or whatever were gonna be. And up till that, like it had been since we filmed 80 Day Obsession that I had done hour long workouts. And I was like, okay, you really do. Like, I like hour long workout. I'm not saying they're bad because I was like, you really do push. Like you reach that 30 minute mark and you're like, wow, I am exhausted. And then it's like, like your body almost feels like it enters this new.

[Autumn Calabrese]

You get like a rush.

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Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

And it, and I was like, this is really nice, but it's not always available to everyone is the point.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yes. I do think we have to get to a place where exercise is the priority and we make time for it. And, and an hour is great. And yes, I would love for everybody to do an hour. But if you're new to getting into exercising, you are going to see results from 30 minutes. If you're, if you haven't been working out at all and you start doing a program like a 21 and done or a 21 day fix or four weeks for everybody, you're doing 30 minutes. You're going to see progress.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Especially if your nutrition's on top of it as well. And even when it comes to hormone health, like talking about perimenopause and menopause and like, you have to do. No, listen. And everybody just wants to say, like, I'm watching people just jump on all these things, like, don't get me wrong in My hormone health program. We're doing hour long workouts because. Pilates. We're doing Pilates a couple times a week because we want that. Like we want the mobility and the flexibility and it's not as much stress on our body as heavy lifting. But we're still getting heavy lifting in as well because there's a place for it. But like I said, 30 minutes can still get you a lot.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

I think if you're somebody doing 10 or 15 minutes, that's great. And maybe you do 10 or 15 minutes in the morning and you do 10 and 15 minutes in the afternoon, it's not going to tax the muscle the same as if you were doing it all back to back. But is it better than nothing? Yes. Or is throwing on a 10 minute finisher somewhere else? Like maybe you did your normal workout in the day and you just want to throw on an extra 10 minutes somewhere. Extra push ups or something.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Great.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Or I often do like separate cardio from.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

My lifting.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

So it'll be like, it feels like

[Autumn Calabrese]

but you've done your lift.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Exactly.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And then you get your cardio wherever.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Right.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Fine. But I just. Yeah. I don't like that people try to discourage people from movement.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Right.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Because right now we're just trying to be healthy. Like.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Exactly.

[Autumn Calabrese]

I'm just like, you know, most, the average American doesn't even get in 5, 000 steps a day. They sit in front of a screen for five hours plus a day. Like a total.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

You're seeing screens in our hands.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

And I, you know, most people, I think are surprised at how little steps they get like that. You think you get more. And then if you do start tracking or have a wearable and some of the wearables oftentimes still like, like go in your favor with number of steps.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Like I remember I was like, I get a good amount of steps in. And then I was typing on my computer and not everyone but it would kept. It would like jump up like as if here and there. It was like, oh, is he taking steps? I was like, bitch, I've been sitting on my ass for two hours. Tell me these are not steps.

[Autumn Calabrese]

How these is step.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Exactly. So it is just so important to be intentional. Get movement. Get your steps in. Yeah. Because people, I think it's so funny when people are like, I bet I get 10,000 steps a day. And then you track it and you're like, wow, I'm only getting like 2,000.

[Autumn Calabrese]

I'm getting mine. I'm usually at like 15 to 16, 000 a day.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

But that's amazing.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Now we know why I'm always so tired. That's in addition, like, I guess that's with my workout, though. But still, like, that's a lot.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

That's a lot.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Because it's not like I'm walking around during my workout.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

I'm like, yeah, when I worked at the restaurant, I got a lot of stuff.

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[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

But my house is long. Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

It's like, literally, if I have to walk to the back room, I'm like,

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

you got some steps?

[Autumn Calabrese]

I got some steps in upstairs, downstairs, walk around the K. Yeah, but. But to answer her question, I think at a certain point, you have to tune out some of the noise. I think listening to podcasts are great to an extent. There's a point where it's just information overload and it stops you from executing, or it's like it just starts to just become overwhelming. Like, it's. We're filled with information and we're drowning, like, for knowledge. Like. Like we're starving for knowledge.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

It's like everybody's saying everything, but where's the real knowledge? And the knowledge is it makes sense to move your body. And moving your body compared to not moving your body is going to move you in the right direction. And of course, if we're going for all these, like, body recompositions and things like that, then, yes, we have to lock in a little harder with nutrition, with fitness, those kinds of things. But to act like there's for any. Listen, if anybody is out there telling you there's one way to do something and only one way to do something, they don't know what the they're talking about, and they are literally just trying to bait you into whatever it is that they're doing.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Why I abandoned my religion. Honey, I'm telling you, there's more than.

[Autumn Calabrese]

There's more than one way to do everything.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

You know, that's why I really like being like. The certification I have is as a. Is titled Wellness Coach. Because the fact is, yes, if someone's goal was to let, like, do some kind of fitness competition, of course you are going to have to put in a different level of. Of work in the gym, a different level of focus on your nutrition and sleep, your recovery. But when the problem is, I think then people, ordinary people, like, the average person has their life and then what they want to achieve with health, and they don't go hand in hand. Right. And really, you have to figure out how what is best for your overall wellness and if you're in a phase of life where 30 minute workouts are getting you by right now, that's okay. You're not taking the stage as a competitor.

[Autumn Calabrese]

You're trying to feel good and be healthy. You're trying to feel good.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Healthy longevity, like, and so it's beneficial. So, yes, of course, I. I would say if. If everyone had an hour accessible to them, that, that's great, but not everyone does. So work with what you got.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And also, let me just tell you, if you're. If you were training to be a fitness competitor and you trained with one coach and then trained with another coach, they would train you two totally separate ways, and both could get you to the stage and both could help you win.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

That's right.

[Autumn Calabrese]

I trained with two different coaches, and they had very different training styles and different nutrition approaches. When I trained with my first coach, it was like, the amount of food he had me eating, I was like, there's no way. And he, like, he's like, choke it down. I don't care what you gotta do, you gotta get in. He's like, yeah, I'm not starving you. You're not. You're not going to be one of these girls that starves and then rebounds and gains 20 to 30 pounds. He's like, not on my watch. And I was like, okay, let's do this. I was eating 22, 20, 300 calories a day backstage. I was eating steak and potatoes and rice cakes and peanut butter, and these girls were back there starving, and they were looking at me like, what is she doing? And they were telling me, because they were training with some other, like, coach, they were like, oh, I'm on 800 calories a day. And I was like, kill yourself. But I was like, you're literally killing yourself. You're killing your metabolism. I'm like, 800 calories a day. And you're putting in these crazy workouts. Like, how are you even maintaining muscle? Like, that's insane.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And I was like, no, I ate my way down. So even then, you're gonna get different approaches and both will get you there. So just know that. That there's so many different ways to get there, and you have to figure out. You have to be your own biggest advocate for what works for you.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Like, we're here to guide you guys and give you science and give you knowledge. But anytime, like I said, somebody starts going, this is the.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Mm. Just. Yeah, don't just run. Yeah. Like you. Because there is more than one way.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Well, I see here is. And what I like to say when I'm sharing with my clients or something what's worked for me or what I've seen work for other people. Because then it's like you're working off of the information you have and sharing what you know without totally discrediting what you just maybe don't even know or hasn't worked for you but has worked for other people. You know, it's like so much better.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

When someone can just be honest that there's more than one way to skin a cat.

[Tammy (Geico Subconscious News)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Literally. God, get me going.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

So we have another one. Should I? You want to hear it?

[Autumn Calabrese]

Hit me with it.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

We love these fauna friends guys.

[Autumn Calabrese]

We really do.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

So they really enjoy the podcast. Blah, blah blah. Jumping on to the topic. This is more of like a topic than a specific scenario that they asked us about.

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[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

N if we'd want to talk about has there we ever been on a path in life and you got to a point where you realized you want to get off the path and completely change directions? If so, how did you Navigate that? How did you have the courage to do so and make sense of it? This is something I've been contemplating for a while. And part of my struggle is that I work so hard to get where I'm at, but I'm just not fulfilled with what I'm doing to the outside world.

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[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Would be crazy for me to just walk away and do something totally different. But deep down inside, that's what I want and just haven't made a plan to do it. I even switched jobs, still in the same profession, thinking maybe I just needed a new environment. But ultimately I still feel the same.

[Autumn Calabrese]

It's a great question. Yeah, I mean, I love it. Honestly, you gotta stop thinking about the outside world. That's. I think that that is one of the biggest problems that all of us have, is we're so worried. What's it going to look like to everybody else? What's it going to look like if I leave this job? What's it going to look like if I move across the country? What's this going to look like if I go back to school? What's it going to look like if I get divorced because I said I, you know, because I married the person and like. And you end up staying somewhere you're not happy and you're not fulfilled and you have one life. That's it. That's what. This is what you get. So it's up to you to make the most of it. And if. If you are, you're gonna have to just push the outside world and their opinions to the side and focus on what makes you happy. Because eventually, you know what, when you make the decision to do something else, people are. Everybody's gonna have something to say about it when you first do it. And then a few weeks in every. Everybody's consumed by their own life. They're gonna go back to their own thing. They're not gonna be worried about what you're doing with your life or how that panned out for you or whatever.

[Tammy (Geico Subconscious News)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

So, okay, great. If somebody needs to say something to you for a week or two, like, let them say it and then move on. Keep doing you and what feels good because it's for you.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

So, yeah, I've been there. I mean, I've been there many times in my life. What about you?

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

You know, one example, it just occurred to me, I didn't think of it when I read that before is the move I just did.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Because I never. To this day, Los Angeles has been the most amazing experience and place that I've ever lived. And the idea of leaving, as it started to creep into my head, whether it's for a season or, like, however long it might be, was a really scary one. And it was scary because of, like, am I gonna regret this decision? And also, I didn't want to leave so many people who are like family to me, who I love. And I know that, like, the real ones are going to continue to be there. I know we all try to talk

[Autumn Calabrese]

you out of it.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

I know our friendship is never gonna. No, it's like, I mean, regardless of.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

If I live in Arizona or Los Angeles or wherever. But you still get worried about what that change looks like.

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[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

But it was just this. I felt for me, it was like, I need a change.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

And it felt like a move that. And a chance and. And a risk that was worth taking, but I'm really glad that I did. And when I think about the alt. What I like to do in those moments is think about the alternative. The alternative is literally things stay the same. And so for this person, whatever it is, I would say take the risk. But a caveat to that, which might end up a few minutes leading us to a different conversation, is I think it's really important that you make sure you're doing the work, that you're not just running away from difficult situations. Yeah. Like, make sure you're focusing on personal development, that you can feel difference between intuition and insecurity and that kind of thing. Because. Because the grass is always greener also. And that's something you want to be aware of that in relationships. Like, some relationships really don't work, and sometimes we don't have the maturity to work through relationships. If I use relationships as an example. So I would say make sure that you aren't romanticizing everything else because you. Because whatever the other thing is, it's going to require just as much work.

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[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

And so make sure you're doing what you need to. To know. Yes, you can hand. You're. You're up for that.

[Autumn Calabrese]

It sounds like this person has been thinking about it for a while. It sounds like they are doing work. Like, she said that she even changed jobs. And that's not. She's still not fulfilled.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Right.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And so it sounds like.

[Ad Voice]

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[Autumn Calabrese]

Like, kind of like you. Like, like ready for a change. And she obviously sounds like she knows what she wants that change to be. It's just scary. And I mean, I've had it happen so many times in my life. I mean, I left. I guess I left St. Louis. To move to LA by myself, not ever knowing, like, what that was going to be. But I knew I didn't want to stay in St. Louis or Ohio, like, where I grew up. I knew I wanted to get to la. You know, like, that's a big, scary move. I packed my little Civic, Honda Civic up and drove across the country and had to find a place to live. Like, I had nothing lined up. I had a job because I was waiting tables at Cheesecake Factory, so I knew I could wait tables out here. Like, but, like, other than that, I had nothing lined up. And it did.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

You did you. Did a friend ride with you, like, on your first move here?

[Autumn Calabrese]

The very first time I came.

[Rakuten Announcer]

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[Autumn Calabrese]

So I came, moved out here. I was living with my mom for, like, two months out here in la.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Oh.

[Autumn Calabrese]

She used to live down in, like, Palos Verdes.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Okay.

[Autumn Calabrese]

In her true fashion. That didn't work out. And I moved back to St. Louis for a year to re. Save money and, like, really save money so that I could come out and go right into my own place. Because it was like, I moved. I moved in. I was staying with my mom and I was working. Like, I had gotten a job. I was working so I could save money to get a place. Because it was that way. It was like I could figure out what I was thinking, okay, I'll figure out where I want to live, how expensive it is, what do I need? Didn't work out.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Went back to St. Louis, worked for a year, like, crazy. Saved, save, saved. And then at the time, my roommate in St. Louis drove out with me, and then I got a place up here. And then. Yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Did you have a place before you got here or did you got here and found a place?

[Autumn Calabrese]

No, I got here and found a place. My older Bobby was living out here at the time.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Huh.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And I went around, like, he took me around with one of his friends, and I ended up getting an apartment two doors over from his.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Oh, that's cool.

[Bluff]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

So that was kind of nice because it was like, okay, my brother's only two doors. Like, we weren't in the same building. We were two buildings apart. But, like, literally, like, walk out my front door, walk. Which is crazy that he was two doors down, and I, like, didn't even see him that much. And I think about that now, and I'm like, if we live two doors away now, I would see him every single day. Yeah, but. But yeah, that was one time when I left. When I left LA and moved to Dallas. This was when Dom was like, six months old. Go ahead.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

So what. So what were you thinking? I know now, in hindsight how you feel about that experience, but putting yourself when you were in la, like, about making the decision or thinking about, okay, are we gonna go to Texas? What were the pros? What was the potential draw? Oh, yeah, to go.

[Autumn Calabrese]

So, you know, I mean, I was married. We just had a baby. Dom was like five and a half months old. LA is expensive. I mean, I was running my personal training business, and I was doing very well with it. Kent was having a little bit harder time of, like, it's so expensive. We're never gonna own a house. Like, maybe we should go somewhere else. Like, I think he was feeling unsettled in his work that he was doing. And my. Again, my mom. My mom was living in Texas at the time, and we had gone to visit, and Kent had a job interview out there because I had said to him, I was like, you're not happy at your job? Like, start applying for other jobs. And he was applying for other jobs. Jobs. And I don't want to say the company that he applied for with, but it was a big fitness gym company.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

He's.

[Autumn Calabrese]

He was a manager. Okay, that's like. Kent was very good at, like, management. And when he applied, we thought it would be, like, out here in la, that he would get a job because they have multiple locations all across the country. Well, they ended up literally offering him one in Texas by, like, where my mom lived, and. And he was like, you know, we'll be able to get a house and family. Your mom's there, help with Dom, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, okay. And we went. And I actually kind of felt. Not kind of. I knew in my bones it was the wrong move. The day we were leaving, like, we had packed everything up because we were driving, and I was standing in my bedroom in my apartment holding Dominic, my friend was over at the time, and I was sobbing, and I was like, this feels wrong. She's like, you're just nervous. And I'm like, no. I feel it in my bones. This is wr. Like, I'm not. I don't belong there. And she's like, you're gonna be fine. But it was, like, too late. Like, the apartment was no longer ours. The cars were packed. He accepted the job. We drove to Dallas. And every day I was there, like, literally, I was, like, crawling out of my skin. I was like, this is not where I bel. Like, I am in the wrong place. I've gotta get out of here. Like, and five weeks after we were there, I remember Kent came home and I was like, like, I'm done. And he's like, what? And I was like, I'm not staying here another day. And he's like, what are you talking about? And I was like, you can come back with us or you could stay until you get transferred, but I'm going back to LA with Dom. And I was like, if I wait any longer, all my clients. I spent years building this business. I was like, all my clients are going to be gone. And. And he was like, okay. And so we packed the car up. He took two days off of work. He drove back with me and Dom. Like, we took one car. Car. I actually was staying with his mom down in San Diego, so I would have to drive every morning up to la. So two hours.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

So I'm taking care of a newborn. I would drive two hours up to LA with clients starting at like, five in the morning. So I'd have to be on the road by like, three, train my clients all day. And then by like, three o', clock, I'd be on the road back down to San Diego. That's how I met Brooke Burke, though. Like, she had launched her website and, like, I messaged them and was like, hey, you know, I have a specialty in pre and postnatal. Like, happy to write for you guys if you ever want. Want anything. They ended up asking me to write for them. She ended up asking me to come over and film workout videos for YouTube with her. Like, that really quick, but. And the second I was back, I knew I was where I was supposed to be. Like. And then I ended up, like, a few weeks later, like, renting an apartment in the Palisades because that's where all my clients were. So even though it was more expensive, hired a nanny. We had to work way harder because we were. It was two of everything.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

But it just. It made sense.

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[Autumn Calabrese]

Like everybody else, like. And I was judged. Like, you're leaving your husband behind in Texas and you're taking the baby back to la. And, like, you should be supporting him. And I'm like, no, I do support him. And I said, you could stay if you want or you could come back if you want. I support you. And if you want to quit the job altogether and find another one, that's fine too. I'll keep working, but I deserve to be happy too.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And I'm not happy here, here.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah. Yeah, I.

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[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

It makes me think of when I moved to Nashville. It was very much like I knew it just, I had to, I wasn't happy. But it was difficult because I just started teaching a year prior to that and my student teaching ballroom dance and my stu. I had a lot of students and most people who start in that field because that's not something people even know they would be interested in. You kind of have to like introduce it to people, let them know it's fun, they should try it and it's something that it's like people, a lot of people think, oh, if I, I would love to work with a trainer for example. But not a lot of people even think about, oh, I'm gonna find, take private lessons and learn to ballroom dance. So the fact that all those students and such a connection with a lot of them, it made it really hard to think of moving. It's sort of, I imagine like if a hair stylist was going to move when you leave your clients, you, you're even though you have the skill, you're leaving the business that you built.

[Bretzky]

Hello.

[Autumn Calabrese]

That's what I just said.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Exactly.

[Autumn Calabrese]

It's hard and it's a lot of money that you're leaving.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Exactly. And so I was like, okay, well about a year after I started my, my, my brother asked me to do the tour with Anthem Lights and it was based out of Nashville. And so I would, I talked to the studio owner and while I was gonna do the tour, my students would just like get subs teachers and I went and had lunch with a friend in Nashville after the first run of the tour because we'd go for like a week or Two weeks at a time. Come back. I'd come back to Ohio, then we'd leave again in a few days. Yeah, so. So anyways, I just remember having lunch with my friend, about to drive back to Dayton, and I was like, you know, I should move. And she said, move? And I was like, yeah, maybe. I don't know. I have all these clients, and maybe I should move like, a year from now. And she was like, maybe you should just move now. And something about that seed being planted. I was like, yeah, kind of laughed it off. Got in the car, Googled dance studios, the first one that came. Ballroom Dance Studios, the first one that came up. I called and asked them if they had a need for a male instructor. And they were like, we absolutely do. We would. Like, we really need someone. What are you. What's your expertise? So we went back and forth, and while I was still driving home to Ohio, I called my studio owner and told her that this was going to be my last time back and I'd work with my students one last time to help assign them a new teacher because I was moving to Nashville.

[Autumn Calabrese]

That's scary. Yeah, of course.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

But it was so worth it.

[Autumn Calabrese]

It's. It's never going to not be scary. Anytime you try something new. Yeah, anytime you try something new. Because it's new.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Right.

[Autumn Calabrese]

But it's also exciting because it's new. And sometimes that's what happens. You get stuck in ruts, and you're like, I need something new, something fresh. Like Tony Robbins says, like, if you're not growing, you're dying. Like. Like, the need to grow and contribute is like, a basic human need. You need that in life. And she asked about that. She asked about personal development. And what were you gonna say?

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

I was gonna say, I think it's actually a different one that I read to you that asked about personal development that will. I can read.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Oh, well.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

But to the point of what you're saying, also like it. Also making that. Doing that thing reminds you that you're that like. Like I did. I wasn't lucky to get those clients. I'm that bitch that got those clients. And if I did it there, I can do it over here, or I can do it someplace else. And it's a reminder to have faith in yourself and your abilities. And because we all get into, like, that mindset of, oh, I'm so lucky that this happened for me, now I'm stuck to it or beholden to this place, and all of a sudden, the good thing that's happened to you Feels like a ball and chain because you forget that you're that bitch that did it and you can do it again.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And look, you could look at my body experience and body never has felt like a ball and chain. It's not at all. And I love it. And yes, I am still very much a part of body, even though I have my own app, too. But when I just. When I was thinking about, should I do my own app, the thought of even asking Carl and Jonathan if I was allowed was terrifying. So Carl being the CEO, Jonathan being the attorney at Bodi, who I'm. I'm great friends with, and I know they always have my best interest at heart. I know they're always looking out for me, but they also have a business to run. Yeah, I know what I have done over at Bodi in 12 years. And it's. It was so scary to one to ask because I was like, are they going to think I don't appreciate all of the opportunities and everything I've learned? If I go do my own app, are they going to stop working with me? Are they going to be mad at me like, like, how is this gonna go? But things are changing over there and like, I. My brain is exploding with ideas and I want to be creative and I don't want to have to wait. I've never had to really wait my turn because I always had a turn because I was always pushing. Yeah, I've got an idea. You know, Carl would be like, great, bring it to me in four months. In two weeks, I'd be texting him like, hey, so about my idea. And yeah, okay, but I'm not ready yet. And I'd be like, cool. So anyways, about this idea, you gotta hear it. But I worked at, like, I had programs every year because I was always thinking of something. I always wanted to do something. I was always explaining why people needed it. But as the business has shifted, I wasn't getting there. Just wasn't as often, as often of opportunities. And that's fine, but I need to work.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

So was it terrifying to go do it on my own? Of course. Is it overwhelming? And do I have anxiety most days because of it?

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[Autumn Calabrese]

But I know I created fantastic content that helps people on Bodi. And I know I can keep creating fantastic content that helps people with Good Mood Crew. And like I said, if and when Body calls, if there's the right opportunity and time to do it, I will go do it over there and we'll figure it out between what I'm doing with Good mood crew and like. But when you have 12 years, 18 programs, three nutrition programs, three cookbook, like all this, this library and this life. And I've talked about like, that being that's been my family for 12 years. You don't think the shift over is scary and lonely and like, oh my God, what am I doing? But it's also really cool and exciting.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And you don't know unless you do it right. So like, for that person, I think you gotta just, you know, you gotta just go for it. There's something I always tell myself in life, guys. You can always, you can always undo it for the most part. Like, if you start a new job and you hate it, go do something else.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Right.

[Autumn Calabrese]

You always make more money if, if you move somewhere and you hate it, move back to where you liked to be.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

It might, it might, might take a little extra effort. Right. Because like, you sign a lease or you sell a house or you move out of an apartment, whatever. Like, it might take you a little money to, say, time, money to save up or looking to get a diff a job, but like, nothing's permanent.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yep.

[Autumn Calabrese]

So go try it.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

That's right. And I really think it's important to like, just if you see something that you want, go after it because you see it for a reason.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And it.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

What, what one of the saddest lives is going to be having a vision of what you want and making a choice to live a life that will not allow you to achieve it.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Right.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

And I don't mean like. Well, I picture a Rolls Royce and I, like, I'm not saying like from A to Z in a blink of an eye, but, but I mean like that real drive, that passion that you have, that thing that just makes you feel alive. I don't know. Like, for me, there's just been phases of life. I'm Now I'll be 41 next month. And there's been so many times in life where I felt so alive. And then there's those in between places where it's like, I'm going through the motions.

[Autumn Calabrese]

It's a little gray.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah. I feel like I need to like, start this engine. Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Turn it up.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Exactly. And. And it's so. It is always so worth it. And so some people don't have that vision. And if there's other things you can do to learn and explore and see what excites you. But if you have that, I think you should explore it.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah. I think you can even hear what I said about what the first Time I moved to la and I was out here only for like a couple months, living with my mom, and it didn't work and I had to go, go back to St. Louis, and it was a year before I could come back. For a lot of people, that would be discouraging and they might just not come back for me. I was like, oh, no, I know exactly what needs to happen. I was working double shifts, waiting tables. Like, literally, I got excited every time I went to the bank because half of all the money I made went into savings and half went into checking, and I had to budget my morning money accordingly. But every time I'd look at my savings account and that number was going up, I was like, I'm gonna be all right.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

That's right.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Like that, that, like, I'm gonna be able to get the apartment when I go back there. I, when I left la, I knew I was going back a year later. I, I, I set the date. I was like, I'm coming back. I think it was like in the summer. I think it was like, I'll be back next June. Like, I've got one year. Like, I put a time frame on it. On purpose.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

I didn't want to give myself an undisclosed amount of time to do it, so.

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[Autumn Calabrese]

So that's like, My point is, like, I came, I tried, it didn't work out. I went back, I reset, and I came back again.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And then guess what? Six years living in St. Louis and, or living in LA, and we went to Texas, five weeks, it didn't work out and I came back. I'm pretty sure I know where I'm supposed to be. Yeah, for sure.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

It calls to you.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Pretty sure LA calls to me. I'm not saying it's a forever, always, but it's still, am I right now?

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[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

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[Autumn Calabrese]

You know, but there's been multiple times is what I'm saying is so many people will like, if it doesn't work out the first time. They're like, couldn't possibly.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

I want to hit this one before we're out of time today. And this was, I cut you off about the personal development because that's what this one specifically is about. It says, I would love to hear your thoughts about personal development and transformation experiences, what it takes them to actually create real change in your life. Autumn, I know you attended a Tony Robbins event a few years ago. I'm considering attending Unleash the Power within in October. How was your ex that experience for you? Was it worth it? What had to happen in your life for the information you learned to create lasting transformation. I really like that specific question because whether and what should I expect if I go? I like that it's that question a lot because this isn't a Tony Robbins plug, even though Tony Robbins is amazing. I'm just saying what has to happen in your life because we all have accessible to us resources and information for greater personal development, healthier habits, ways to better our life by the actions that we're taking. But what has to happen in our life to make that lasting change? Does anything pop out at you?

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah. I know exactly where I was when I called to sign up. I went to Dan Date With Destiny. So you're usually supposed to do Unleash the Power within before they'll even let you go. To Date with Destiny I never did unleash the power within, but I had already been listening to Tony's audiobook Unleash the Power Within. But for me, what had to happen was, you know, I just had to be so fucking sick and tired of my own bullshit. And that's where I was at.

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[Autumn Calabrese]

I have a great life. I've worked really hard for the life that I have, be it material things, the friends, the trips, everything. And I was just in a really negative place. Like I was angry all the time and it was really starting to affect. The biggest thing it was starting to affect was work like in product development times and like getting triggered very easily and like frustrated with people. And I think Carl and I had butted heads pretty bad. We had had a Pretty bad fight about. I was. I don't even remember exactly what it was about, but I was like, not happy with the way something was going. I didn't feel like I was being heard. He was not happy with the attitude I was giving him about it. And he was letting me know with no uncertain terms that, like, something's got to change or we might not have a working relationship anymore. And I was like, okay, wait, that's terrifying because I love the job and I love, love the company and I love everybody. And I had to take a step back and look at myself and be like, what is this? Like, why are you like this? And listen, I grew up in a household that was yelling and screaming and fighting and like, bad all the time. It's a knee jerk reaction for me. I get triggered easily. I was called stupid my whole life. Like my whole young adult life. I was told I was dumb. So when somebody would question me in any way, it would trigger me.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

That feeling, like, that feeling of like,

[Autumn Calabrese]

don't act like I don't know what I'm talking about. Like, I do. Yeah. That for me, that was my, like, the thought of losing a job that I love so much was like, you got Autumn, you got to do something because this is unacceptable.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Like we're.

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[Autumn Calabrese]

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[Autumn Calabrese]

So we're gonna need to put this in check. But I needed something. Like, obviously just knowing that wasn't enough. It wasn't working. Like, I wasn't keeping myself in check. I needed a little bit better understanding of why it was happening and how to you instantly change it. I am not a person. I've done therapy before. For me personally, that's just not my thing. I don't want to sit and talk through my problems and have somebody say, well, what? Why do you think you feel that way? I don't know. Yeah, If I knew, I wouldn't be sitting here paying you 200 an hour. Just tell me what my problem is so I can fix it. That's what I need. So listening to Tony's books, I was getting a lot from that. But I was like, I need this in person. And I had had a lot of friends who had done Unleash the power within. And I was like, I'm going to date with destiny, which is seven days. It's intense. And I walk by my long days. You're talking 14, 15, 16 hour days. They do it on purpose. They want to like, mentally fatigue you

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

so that you pushes you to a Breaking.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah. They kind of are pushing you to a mental and emotional breaking point so that when they start really doing the work, you're not filtering yourself. They want you so tired that, like, you're just, like. When they ask a question and you have to write your answers down, they just want you to, like. Like word vomit on the paper. Because if you're fresh and. And, like, then you might. I don't know. What is that? Okay, then what? Yeah, that sounds good. That's not gonna get you there. And everybody said I was crazy to go by myself because they're like, it's intense. Like, you should go with somebody. And I was like, well, nobody wants to go. I'm going by myself. And honestly, it was the best thing I ever did. Yeah, I learned so much. I love personally, I just love his approach to it. He's a no nonsense, no bs. He says it like it is, but there's still so much, like, caring and comp. Passion in it. And it all makes sense like this. Again, like, I'm. I don't want you to ask me, well, why do you think? Even though he'll do that sometimes, like, if he calls on somebody in the audience and they start working through a problem, he'll ask them certain things so that they get to the answer. But he makes sure you get to the answer. He doesn't just, oh, hours up. No, like, he literally. Two hours. He'll stand there face to face with somebody with the audience all engaged, watching, and he'll get that person to that point. Yeah, but it's stuff that makes sense, like when he starts explaining it, like, why do I feel this way? Why do I have the anxiety? Why do I have the anger? Why do, like. And you realize, oh, I've got conflicting beliefs, like, I want to be an entrepreneur. I want to do these great things. Oh, but over here, I'm afraid of failure. I'm afraid of being told I was wrong. Well, those are in direct conflict with each other. If you're going to be an entrepreneur, be prepared to have failures.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Okay, great. So be aware of that now. I'm aware of that now. I can accept that now I can keep going as an entrepreneur and. And just accept accepting that I'm gonna have some failures along the way. And it doesn't mean I'm a failure right now. I don't have conflicting beliefs.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah, that's so good. So conflicting beliefs is such that, like, people, we all have them, and unless addressed, it's just gonna stop you. It's just gonna Stunt you and hold you back. It's like you can't believe this and this and go, move forward. You're fighting yourself.

[Autumn Calabrese]

But nobody had. I had never even thought about it. Nobody had ever brought that up before. Like, what are the things you. What are your beliefs that you're. That he calls them your toward beliefs and your away belie. Like, what are your to. Like, what are you working towards? Like, adventure. Like, things that you want. Adventure, excitement, happiness, love, passion, success. Like, you write them all down, then he has you put them in the order of importance, but then you do the same thing with your away ones. What are you trying to avoid? Well, I'm trying to avoid failure. I'm trying to avoid looking stupid. I'm trying to avoid judgment. And you start going, well, how can I have all these things if I don't want all these things? Because I'm going to get judged. Yeah, that's going to happen. Welcome to the world we live in. If I'm afraid of, you know, failure. Well, obviously you're going to fail if you're trying new things. So, like, if. If that's all happening and you're trying to have both at the same time, you're going to be frozen.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

But nobody had ever point. Like, I was like, God, that's so simple. Like, what. Where's this in school?

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah. Legit.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Legit. Like, I don't fucking care about World War I, but can you teach me this so I can manage my damn emotions as I go forward? Yeah, we would all be a lot healthier.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah. Okay. So to her, you would say go.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Oh, I would absolutely say go.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And I would say, you gotta know what it is. Like, what, what is? Why are you bringing me there? What is bringing you there? What are you trying to work past? And you have to keep reinforcing it. Like, even after I came home from Date with Destiny, I would read my notebook that I filled in all the time. I would still listen to, like, Unleash the Power within his audiobook. I like to listen to. And especially because I like to hear Tony and, like, his tone and stuff. I would listen to other podcasts with Tony. Like, Like, I would. I went in hard, like, for two years, and I'll still go back to it if I find myself slipping. I'm like, we need a little tune up.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

And look, it might take you going through. There's everybody. Like, so many people have personal development stuff. It might take you going through multiple people to find the person you connect with.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah. I think it's really good and important. Important for if, if someone listening. Because someone listening might be like, well, I don't even know where I'm being pulled or why I need to do something. I'm just like, get up, brush my teeth, go. I would encourage you to create space, a daily routine, space for personal development and just start, like, pick a book, A friend recommended it to you, whatever it is, one that maybe you have. Most of us have a book on our shelf that we have. We could pick up and start reading that we haven't yet. But start prioritizing that personal development. And it is amazing how once you begin, your brain literally starts illuminating things that you. You didn't even know you needed to know. But it's like, oh, this is so helpful and so beneficial. And then, like, you right now, you might not know the questions to ask yourself, but then the questions will be presented and then you'll have the next steps laid out. Because the like, well, why do I want to do that? This is why. Because this is a struggle I'm having, and I want to see if this is something that can help. But start with personal development. Start literally with 10 minutes. If that's all you have, pick it up, set a timer, read for 10 minutes. Start, like meditate, quiet time, whatever it is. Just start on a personal development routine. You can always change what you're reading or what you're doing, but having that time and that commitment will change your life.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yeah. And if you're not a reader, like, I, I do like to read, but my days are busy. I'm trying to do multiple things at once. So that's why I like to audio listen. Because I'll go outside, I'll take a walk. I love to be moving when I'm listening. I feel like I retain it better. Like, I just get thinking more. So. Yeah. Like, whether it's again, listening to a podcast or listening to a few minutes of the audiobook, I'll sometimes take notes on my phone while I'm walking, while I'm listening. Like, ooh, that's something I want to remember. That's a good one. But like, like, yeah, whether you're picking the book up and reading for a few minutes here and there on your lunch break, first thing in the morning, maybe end of the day, whatever, get in the bathtub, end of the night, go for a walk, listen to it in your car on the way to work or on the way to the grocery store, there is time. And that's what I do love about the audio place Is like look, if you're walking around the grocery store shopping. Put it in.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Exactly.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Put it in earbud. Like fine, if you don't want to be rude, put one in. But like listen while you're. You. You gain so much and it feels so good when you start to have those aha moments and just like oh, the universe is really like it snowballs directing me like yeah.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

And it builds. The momentum builds. You know something that used to sort of keep me from doing it is I was afraid that I wouldn't remember everything that I needed to.

[Autumn Calabrese]

But you never will.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

You never. Your brain will catch the things that you need in the moment. The truth is you. Some people might like say you're listening to an audio book. You might be able to listen to the same audiobook. Audiobook three times and each time you'll gain new information.

[Autumn Calabrese]

You'll hear something totally different.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah. So let go of the pressure of oh well, I'm not gonna totally absorb or girl, if you're trying to kill two birds, one stone, get some steps in little personal development. You'll. Your. Your brain will latch onto what it needs to latch on to. So don't over. I put so much pressure on myself. Like wait, what? What did he just say? I have to remember that. I think yes. Paying attention and knowing that what you need and what's there for you in this moment. I know I'm like also sounds like there's an air SWAT team about to jump down.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Should we be concerned.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

But anyways, personal development. Good. Yeah, do it.

[Autumn Calabrese]

We like you, we support. Well anyway, on that note.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

Yeah.

[Autumn Calabrese]

If you're doing personal development, you got to bullshit book podcast. Other than Everything's perfect. Something you want to share? You can email us at everything's perfect podcastmail.com.

[Co-host (Good Mood Crew)]

that's right. We love answering these phone of friends. It's so fun to really dive into conversation that you guys want like specific are going through. And I know that a lot of others that didn't write us are going through so send that there. And also you can find us on Instagram at Everything's perfect Official. And we'll see you guys next week.

[Autumn Calabrese]

Yes, we will see you. Bye.

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