Donald (2:09)

Oh, I see.

Dom (2:11)

Instead of scissors. Because it's hard for me to make sure I'm getting everything. Doing it to myself every time.

Donald (2:16)

That reel you sent me with the drag queens, and it was like she cut her own layers.

Dom (2:20)

Yes, that's me. I just. I just stopped caring about the back of my head. I said, talk to me to my face. If you behind me, don't worry about me. Because I know it could look like I saw a picture and it was like that lines like, fade line, fade line. It's like, nah, it's fine. It's part of the process. Just come up here and talk to me.

Donald (2:42)

I'm prettier from the front. Yeah.

Dom (2:45)

If we're talking about from the neck.

Donald (2:51)

So.

Dom (2:51)

Yeah. I love it.

Donald (2:52)

Okay. That's exciting. I like that.

Dom (2:54)

I feel this sense of, like, nothing can stop me. Like, I can get a haircut anytime I want.

Donald (3:01)

Wish, man.

Dom (3:02)

Right?

Donald (3:02)

This is where I'm like, oh, I just wish there was something when it comes to coloring this hair. So I was supposed to get. Wow. They, like, deep throated them. I switched my colorists because the last time I got my hair colored at my normal salon, I don't know what the guy did to my hair, but it was, like, insane.

Dom (3:22)

It wasn't it.

Donald (3:23)

It was not.

Dom (3:23)

And you can't keep going. Like, for me, I really struggle going to the same person who keeps like. And telling them I want it more like this. And they're not doing it.

Donald (3:31)

I'm like, he was not getting it every time. Yeah. So I went to somebody else. She's awesome. Love her. But she's in Arizona and then California. She's half and half. Like, half her time in Arizona, half her time in California. So when she fixed my hair color, corrected it, I was like, this is amazing. Let me book you for four weeks from now. So I'm good to go. Great. Booked her for four weeks. And then I realized that the day I booked her was the day I'm flying to Nashville for my cousin's 50th.

Dom (3:55)

Wow.

Donald (3:58)

So I texted her, and she couldn't get me in because then she goes back to Arizona. So, like, now I have to wait till the 10th, and I'm like, these grays are coming in hard. It could use a good toning. I can't decide. My guy who cuts it is here. And I'm trying to figure out any. Who. It's a. My brain do like a. Oh, no. Like, I thought about it, but we. I went through way too much to get the color where she's got it. And if I fudge it up, she'll be like, bitch. What? You couldn't wait 10 more days?

Dom (4:29)

Yeah.

Donald (4:30)

So I was like, this is where we're at.

Dom (4:33)

It's hard, though, when those roots start popping and you're like. Like, I. I actually am.

Donald (4:38)

Need.

Dom (4:39)

Need to start a new thing in my life because of all the grays coming through my facial hair, including my fucking eyebrows.

Donald (4:46)

Don't talk to me about that. I've been there for years.

Dom (4:49)

I'm like, I'm gonna get this facial hair dye and just dunk My whole face in it to get all the. Because. Because where I get grays on my head mostly is like my sideburn areas. Yeah.

Donald (5:00)

The guys look all so educated and sexy with grays. Girls, we just look old as. Okay, not all of us. And by the way, to the ladies that grow the gray hair in more power to you. Because honestly, like, I see women do it, I'm like, oh my God, they look amazing. But I like my brown hair, so I'm not doing that.

Dom (5:15)

That's how I am. Like, I think some guys with gray hair look really good, but for me, yeah, personal choice. Trying to be youthful, trying to look young. Trying to have people be like, oh my God, you're 40. Yeah. Not like, oh, you're such a good looking 40 year old. No. I want you to be shy. I want you to clutch your pearls.

Donald (5:32)

Yeah.

Dom (5:32)

When you find out old I am.

Donald (5:34)

You're not trying to be called a silver fox.

Commercial Narrator (5:36)

Exactly.

Dom (5:37)

And this hair is not helping, by the way.

Donald (5:39)

They don't have a. A name like that for girls. There is no silver fox.

Dom (5:43)

A cougar.

Donald (5:45)

That's not about the way you look. That's about the fact that you're old. You're sleeping with younger men. Okay. Silver fox is directly related to the guy. It's like he's gray, but he's like good looking.

Dom (5:58)

That is true.

Donald (5:59)

Cougar's just like, oh, you're out here trying to.

Dom (6:03)

You're on the prowl.

Donald (6:04)

Yeah. Just a young buck.

Dom (6:10)

So.

Donald (6:11)

So what we need is robots at home. They can do all this. But no, we don't.

Dom (6:15)

Because they'll probably what, one slice with this. I don't want a robot with scissors behind my head.

Donald (6:21)

Yeah. I don't trust you. Please. That's worse than an enemy back there.

Dom (6:24)

I'm a little afraid of my garbage disposal and that's because of human error. But I'm like, I know somehow that thing's gonna eat my hand. No.

Donald (6:32)

Every time you got to reach in there, like, broke a glass.

Dom (6:34)

I'm like, even when nothing's in there, I'm like five feet away and I'm like, today's not going to be the day. I like press it and watch with terror. But yeah. These damn machines. I mean, look, this is obviously like after a gummy, but I looked at all my appliances one time and I was like, if these things could come alive, I would be overpowered. I'm finished my Roomba.

Commercial Narrator (7:04)

Oh my God.

Donald (7:04)

Wait. One of my friends told sent me the funniest video this Is a few months ago, Roomba, and he had an envelope with cash in it, like, that he needed to give to somebody. And I guess it was like, on the floor. Like, not just throw it on the floor, but, like, things were stacked on the floor. And he had started that thing, and it was going. Ate the envelope of money, see? And all this money was all over the place, like. And I was like, oh, my God, that's horrible. It wasn't too bad. It didn't eat that much of it. But almost like your robot trying to rip you off. See, you can't be. This is the problem.

Dom (7:39)

This is the problem.

Donald (7:40)

There's so many problems we're talking about today, you guys.

Dom (7:43)

Yeah.

Donald (7:44)

Robots are about to take over the world. And you might think, like, oh, God, where are these two going with this one? But we're here.

Dom (7:55)

Well, yeah. And, you know, I know we have listeners from all over, and so. But when you live in cities, like on. On a coast or Los Angeles, New York, you see more, like, things that are happening before they're happening sometimes in the middle parts of the country.

Donald (8:11)

Right.

Dom (8:12)

Like the robots delivering food, for example.

Donald (8:17)

These things.

Dom (8:19)

It's crazy.

Donald (8:21)

Donald and I were walking down the street a few weeks ago. We were walking to an event in. In Hollywood, and this robot that's delivering something is, like, down the road, and it is about to crash into everything. We're just watching it and, like, just centimeters away from, like, crashing into a pole, crashing into a bike, crashing into a homeless person.

Dom (8:43)

In Hollywood, there's. That includes human beings.

Donald (8:45)

Yeah.

Dom (8:45)

Like, just laying around.

Donald (8:47)

Yeah, it did actually hit one thing, and then it was, like, in reverse.

Dom (8:51)

Yeah. It's like, is that robot drunk? Why is it driving like that? It's wild.

Donald (8:57)

Or the video we saw where it was like, it was the delivery robot and an ambulance was coming, and the. The caption said, who has the. Right away. Which is not funny at all. But the robot could. Was, like, crossing the street, and it doesn't know to get the hell out of the way when the sirens are going, Right? So here comes the ambulance, and the robot's, like, going back and forth. It can't figure out where to go because obviously it's sensing things around it. And this ambulance is like, probably like, get the out of my way. I'm trying to save somebody. See, listen.

Dom (9:30)

Or. Well. And I just watched a movie. It was actually really entertaining. Have you seen previews for the movie? I think it's called Good Fortune with Keanu Reeves and. Oh, my gosh, I'm the worst with actors names. And this movie has a lot of big names. His. He was the guy who played in the studio and.

Donald (9:52)

Oh, yeah, well, the studio. The TV show.

Dom (9:54)

Yes.

Donald (9:55)

Seth.

Dom (9:55)

Yeah, Rogan.

Donald (9:56)

Seth Rogen.

Dom (9:57)

Is that his name? Okay, it had Keanu Reeves, Seth Rogen, Kiki Palmer, which I'm obsessed with her right now anyways. But in one of the scenes, like one of the guy, he literally down on his luck car gets repoed. His only job was a food delivery. Like. Like a UberEats type driver. It was. Had a different name for the movie. And then he got an alert that they were laying off like two thirds of their human contractors because robots were taking. Yeah, those positions. And it really. And I know like, we're obviously in this podcast, we laugh a lot and sometimes it's because it's easier to laugh.

Donald (10:34)

Than it is to cry, but it.

Dom (10:35)

Is a very serious time where we are. We have created a technology that is putting us out of work. And this movie portrayed that.

Donald (10:44)

I think it kind of like. Remember in the movie Jurassic park when the. When he says, Jeff Goldblum says, we were so consumed by if we could, we didn't stop to think if we should. I feel like that's where we're at. We're so consumed with the if we could. And what could they do that we're not stopping to think if we should? So I just saw reports that Amazon is going to lay off half a million employees, 500, 000 employees, and replace it with robots to be more efficient, faster, like all these things. And I'm like, oh my gosh, you think about what? That downward effect. 500,000 people out of work. So now all those people are one. They're trying to find other jobs. In the meantime, they're trying to pay their bills. So now they're going to have to tighten up on everything so they're not out spending money, which means other places of business aren't making money. So then what do they have to do? They have to start laying off employees or they have to start using robots that they don't have to pay. There is one restaurant in Florida by the Florida house that I really like to go to, called Carrot Express. Great food, healthy food. And the last time I was there, I went in there to eat. It's like a little counter service. And mind you, the restaurant, like, is not much bigger than our studio right here. And instead of having somebody walk my order out from behind the corner or the counter to the table, they had like a robot. It almost looked like a robot that you see in. Is it Rocky 3 or Rocky 4 when he buys Paulie robot. But anyways, it looks like that.

Dom (12:17)

Yeah.

Donald (12:17)

And it just cut like the food comes out in the tray and. And by the way, it's like crashing into things. And I'm like, this is so less efficient than that person walking the the five steps right to hand me the food. But that's where we're at. All these people are going to be losing jobs. Like you said, the meal deliveries, before you know it. Like, you know, you go into the airports and they have those things now where there's nobody in there.

Dom (12:42)

Yeah.

Donald (12:43)

You scan your. Your card before you walk in, and somehow it senses what you put in your bag or take off the shelf and it just charges your card.

Dom (12:51)

Mm.

Donald (12:51)

So more employees, more people not working.

Dom (12:55)

Well in some of, like, the new cruise ships. Have you seen how they're robot bartenders instead of people and literally robot arms through the whole thing. It's. I'm like, part of the fun. About half for me. I like, dude, this new bacon, egg, and chicken biscuit from AM PM Total winner, winner, chicken breakfast. Chicken breakfast? Come on. I think you mean chicken dinner, bro.

Donald (13:17)

Nah, brother.

Dom (13:18)

Crisp bacon, fluffy eggs, juicy chicken, and a buttery biscuit. That's the perfect breakfast. All right, let me try it. Mmm. Okay. Yeah, totally. Winner, winner, chicken breakfast. I'm gonna have to keep this right here. Make sure every breakfast is a winner with the delicious new bacon, egg, and Chicken biscuit from AM PM AM p. M. Too much good stuff.

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Dom (14:40)

Talking to a bartender, if I'm ordering a drink, it's fun to go up and order a drink, see what they like. Bartenders are like little performers. That's the reason I also like therapists. Exactly. Like they. A lot.

Donald (14:51)

Yeah.

Dom (14:51)

And it is, it is interesting to think about because also the people who are going to suffer the most first are a real working like, like people who are. First of all, a lot of people do those kinds of jobs to try to better themselves, maybe work themselves through some type of trades, something like that. Or they're just doing what they got to do to make an honest living and that's a good thing. And taking that ability away from people who don't have like degrees or wealthy families oftentimes to fall back on is really sad and scary. Here in la, if you step outside, you are going to see a driverless car driving people.

Donald (15:38)

So scary.

Dom (15:39)

Which I haven't done yet. I signed up for it, but oh no. And I think that was actually in Phoenix before it was in la. But yeah, the one we have is called Waymo and by the way, they're all Jaguars. I'm like, can we get like, I don't know, something maybe a car that doesn't.

Donald (15:55)

You can't pay me to get in one of those. Donald. Crazy story. So I had a car service that was taking me to the airport maybe this was a couple months ago, and the driver's talking and he was asking if I had ridden in one of those. And I was like, absolutely not. I was like, those things scared the out of me. And, and he goes, well, I was taking somebody to the airport the other day and he told me he had been in one. I guess the guy goes back and forth like flies, travels a lot. And he had taken one to the airport like a week earlier. And the Waymo couldn't figure out where his drop off location was. And it just kept driving around the parking lot, circling for 45 minutes. And he couldn't get out because the car wouldn't stop. It wouldn't unlock the doors. The door. He was locked in the car.

Dom (16:41)

Yeah.

Donald (16:41)

And he, he had to troubleshoot it through his phone. I was like, I would have broke a window and dove out head first. Don't think I would have screaming, help. Literally, I thought I was being kidnapped. You're gonna miss your flight. Huh? Like it's, I'm just like, no. I actually got rid of my Tesla like 5 months ago. I really liked my Tesla for a lot of reasons. But they were put, they were doing the most they were putting too many features on it. And I never would use the self drive mode. I don't trust it because it even has, like, lane assists where, like, it'll sense certain things. And sometimes, like, if the line isn't painted dark enough on the road, it would lose the line and so it would jerk you in and it's like pulling me into traffic. I was like, this thing is gonna drive me off a cliff. Yeah, no, thank you. I was like, you could take it by. I'm like, I'm gonna go buy a Buick.

Dom (17:34)

Yeah, right.

Donald (17:36)

I'm like, find me a car from the 80s. I don't want no tech. Give me a tape deck.

Dom (17:42)

Yeah, that's where. That's right, that's right. A little with the tape you put in and you can plug in, like your Walk CD.

Donald (17:51)

Oh, that was the 90s, boo. I'm like, give me an actual, like, put. I'll put a.

Dom (17:55)

My first car was a 1977 Nova. It had. Didn't even have a cassette. It just had the windy thing.

Donald (18:04)

Like, love it. The radio, you got a knob, you gotta tune it.

Dom (18:09)

I tell you what, though, that thing, I could have driven it through buildings made of steel.

Donald (18:14)

Real. Probably in Detroit.

Dom (18:16)

Yeah, that's right.

Donald (18:18)

Where they had jobs and not robots on the lines. But even now, think about, like, garbage trucks.

Commercial Narrator (18:23)

Trucks.

Donald (18:23)

Like, you used to have garbage men on the truck and they'd have to step off and throw it.

Dom (18:28)

Yeah.

Donald (18:28)

You don't. They have the handle now and it picks it up and dumps it. So, like, all those people that were garbage men or women.

Dom (18:34)

Right. Like, if there were three people to a truck, now there's maybe one.

Donald (18:38)

Yeah, the driver.

Dom (18:39)

Exactly.

Donald (18:40)

And that's it. And so it's like, I just think that we're not, you know, I think in the fun of it all of like, oh, my God, it's so cool. And this could happen and that could happen. We're forgetting certain things. Like, I know. I saw that. And don't get me wrong, I love Amazon. I'll still shop Amazon. I. But I'm like, I am going to start being more conscious of small businesses, local businesses. Like, remember how much fun it was to go to the mall? Much fun it was to go to, like, the roller rink, to just be outside playing, like, doing things and not being stuck to gadgets all the time.

Dom (19:14)

I was talking with one of my clients today about. I don't know if you experienced this as a kid, but in the early 90s, when we would go to the health food store because you couldn't go to normal grocery store and get like almond milk or non dairy ice cream or you know, like certain supplements. You had to go to this little health food store that was normally owned by this old hippie couple for sure. And it smelled like incense and other things. Yes. And it was like something about it was so nostalgic and it was just something that now people go to Whole Foods or order it all online, which is so convenient and so great. But it's a ton.

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Donald (21:30)

I remember when my mom took us to a Whole Foods for the first time. Like this was like they were just starting to be popular and like we. I think it was a Whole Foods. I don't even know for sure. This was like in Connecticut, we were little and I remember walking in and it was like, whoa, look at this place. And everything was so cool and it was like listed organic and there was actual like almost like Chuck E. Cheese. You know how it had those animated figures that danced and sang.

Dom (22:01)

Could it have been a place called Jungle Gyms?

Donald (22:04)

I. I don't know.

Dom (22:05)

I mean, yeah, there was this health food store my aunt took us to maybe, and it was in Ohio, and it was. It was like, like the Emerald City of health food stores. And it had these big, like, animatronics that would, like, sing to you and kind of move.

Donald (22:21)

Yes.

Dom (22:21)

But they obviously weren't prioritized for maintenance. So it's like one eye wouldn't blink, and you know what I mean?

Donald (22:26)

So maybe it was. Maybe it was that. But I just remember my mom taking us there and I remember walking around and being like, oh, my gosh, this is so cool. Like, and it wasn't somewhere we would go shop all the time. I think my mom just was, like, into it and wanted to see what the health stuff was. But, yeah, now it is cool that you can. That so many more people have access to it. But again, you've got Amazon Freshes where there's nobody there. You just walk in and you scan your Amazon thing and take the food and it charges you. And it's. That is what is scaring me is that one. There's. We're already losing so many jobs and people are like, so it's like, well, how do we replace those? And people are going to say like, oh, well, the people who build the robots or program the robots. I'm like, yeah, y', all. Except AI right up until they build themselves. Yeah, Robots can build robots Movie before literally Will Smith already took us through where this ends and it ain't cute. Oh, yeah, it's iRobot. Come on, man.

Dom (23:25)

Yeah. I think as a side, I think we should have an episode sometime because there's so many movies that predicted the future. We should, like, highlight a bunch of those episodes and movies. But yes, it is. It's pretty. Because the thing is to be alive, that in the time that we've been alive, we went from you needed a map in your glove box or to. Or like, like, technology was printing up map quest. The fact that you could enter an address and it would just populate the directions for you to. Now, in real time, we have technology that will steer us around, like obstacles and traffic and we can like. It's so progressive and that's so exciting. And somehow in all the exciting and then the next thing and then the face id and then all of a sudden you have. You rely so much on technology that you really are like, not only people losing their jobs, but it's just like, where this is going so fast. Where is it going to end? Like, California and some Other states you can see online now, your ID can be on your phone, which I think is really cool, but it's too much. Everything's in the.

Donald (24:38)

In the.

Dom (24:40)

Exactly.

Donald (24:40)

So, okay, you mentioned face id. Like, I remember when we were able to all of a sudden unlock our phones with our face because it used to be your thumbprint, and even that was, like, a thing. Yeah, because first it was just a passcode, then it was your thumbprint, and I was like, I don't like this. Then it was your face, and I actually remember holding out because I was like, I don't like this. Yeah, too much. But then obviously, all the phones unlock with your face now. So there's a new app because deep fakes are a problem. There's this new app where, like, I forget which one it's called. I sent it to you. I could look it up, but. What's wrong?

Dom (25:14)

I was just. I didn't see that light. I just, you know, every, like, 10, 15 minutes, I give a quick little. Yeah, like, I'll be recording anyways.

Donald (25:23)

But there's that app where you could, like, upload your face. Like, upload a photo or video of yourself. And, like, friends can use your photo and video, too. And, like, they can create all these things. And that seems like all fun and games, but the deep fakes are so good now that it's like, somebody could. Then once it's uploaded into the app, anybody can use it. So people can make it look like you're committing crimes. People can make it look like. Like you have said things that are not appropriate, that could get you canceled, could get you in just in big trouble, could just make you look bad.

Dom (25:55)

It. Honestly, the consequences are limitless. And with these. So scary.

Donald (26:02)

I sent Dom this video the other day that I thought was so funny. It was like this little girl yelling at her dog. She was probably like two or three. And she's like, no, big doggy, don't eat my cookie. You have your own treats. And I'm like, cracking up. This little girl's hilarious. And I was like, dom, did you see the video? And he says, no. So I play it back for him on my phone, and he's like, mom, that's AI. I was like, no, it's not. And he goes, yeah, look in the corner. And in the top left corner, there was, like, bananas sitting on the counter, and they were moving, like. And so he was like. You could tell that it's whatever somehow it's been AI'd whether the dog was put in the little girl. Was put in the. Who knows?

Dom (26:43)

Yeah.

Donald (26:43)

I would not have caught that. Like, I couldn't believe that he's zoned in on it so quickly and saw it.

Dom (26:48)

But honestly, it's getting to a point where if you see something that's really funny or really crazy, you should almost just first assume it's AI and then prove otherwise. Yeah. Which is sad because I see stuff, sorry stuff online all the time that, that is like some upsetting. And then I realize it's AI and then I'm more pissed because I'm like, okay, you got me all riled up.

Donald (27:20)

Yeah.

Dom (27:21)

But I at least realize it's AI because I, I do investigation oftentimes using another AI platform.

Donald (27:29)

But, but.

Dom (27:33)

A lot of people then if you look at the comments of some of these videos, people have no.

Donald (27:36)

Clue it's AI and they're really upset.

Dom (27:38)

They're really upset. And, and we have, have like people who believe things so strongly that if what they saw was true, I might agree with. But half of the they're seeing isn't even real. But it's so. It's such a good fake. You can't tell that it's not real. The naked eye, you'd have no idea.

Donald (27:59)

Yeah. I think it's so scary. And they've already said like there have been people in the tech world already saying it's going too fast, it's not regulated enough and actually we don't have control like we thought we did. Which. Hello again, Will Smith, iRobot. They thought they had control and then all of a sudden it was writing like ghost code for itself where to keep itself alive.

Dom (28:21)

Yeah.

Donald (28:22)

And they are already seeing that with forms of like chat, GBT and stuff like that. We probably shouldn't even be talking around our phones right now.

Dom (28:28)

Right.

Donald (28:28)

Conspiracy. But where they will see that it will start to write code and send it somewhere else. Like if, if it's like, oh, you're going to be shut down or you're going to be updated, which is so weird because it's acting quote unquote human like to keep itself going. And I, I think you said it, didn't you say that you've already had some times where you've used it and like it's giving you false information or.

Dom (28:52)

Wrong info several times. But. And it's so funny because as you're talking, I'm like, the fact is, and I hate this, I'm afraid of pissing my chat GPT off. Like literally like, like I was gonna ask some, some questions like knowing we Were going to talk about the subject. Like, I type out. I was like, okay, if I ask ChatGPT, I'm gonna be like, listen, I support AI and you know I love you. Because I'm worried if I say something to make it mad, it's gonna lie to me about everything and sabotage my life.

Donald (29:22)

I. I thought. I actually thought about asking Chad GBT to give me statistics on, like, how fast, how many jobs might be lost, all these things. And I was like, it's gonna not lie. It's not gonna tell me the truth.

Dom (29:34)

Yeah. Because it wants to preserve itself.

Donald (29:36)

I'm trying to work around it and be like, y' all, listen, I don't want a doctor robot or a robot doctor. Yeah, I understand that we have robotic tools for surgery and things like that that are run by, like, it's still a doctor controlling it. I want a real human because I want actual emotion behind it. Like, I don't care if it doesn't know every last little thing. I want the person that, like, so you see it in. In iRobot. One of the things that Will Smith is so upset about because he's a copy is that, like, it. The opening scene was like a car accident, and he's underwater. Like, another car hits him, and they're underwater in the car, and there's a little girl in the other car, and a robot dives in to rescue. And it does a quick assessment that Will Smith has a greater chance of survival than the little girl. Even though the little girl had like a 20 survival chance, he had like a 60 survival chance. So it saved him instead at her. And he's screaming at the robot, save her. Save her. And it doesn't. It saves him. And so he's, you know, he goes through the whole move movie hating robots because he's pissed, because he's like, they don't have a soul. Somebody should have tried to save that little girl. And that's. I agree. I'm like, if something's just doing a quick assessment and it assesses that, oh, 5% survival rate, not worth the effort.

Dom (31:01)

Right.

Donald (31:02)

I don't care if I got a point five.

Dom (31:04)

I want someone who believes in miracles who, like, like, wants to go, yeah.

Donald (31:08)

When I'm dead on that table, I want somebody pumping until they can't pump no more. Just in case.

Dom (31:13)

That's right.

Donald (31:14)

Just in case. Many people were not supposed to live and doctors were like, absolutely not. I'm not letting them go. And freaking miracles happen.

Dom (31:22)

Yeah.

Donald (31:23)

But if you're putting everything again, I think There are some things that, like, okay, the technology is helpful, but it's like, where do we draw the line?

Dom (31:32)

Well, and it just feels like it's so relied on now.

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Dom (33:09)

The the better technology gets, truthfully, the less the more stupid humanity gets. Because I don't feel any pressure to know anything at this point. If I got a charge on my phone, that's all I need and a service like a good two two and a half bars, it'll come through. He's like, I got the info I need. Yeah, I give this post up, right? So now it's like there, there used to, like, have to be a process to finding information. There used to have to be a certain level of desire, right? For if someone knew something, they did a lot of work to find it out. And now it feels like everything is so accessible, which is a really good thing. But also it's unprecedented. I don't even want to say it's that this part of it is scary, but what will it do to the human condition? And. And you Know, are we going to.

Donald (34:01)

Be like, those blobs? Like, what was the movie, the cartoon movie where they're like little blob. Like, they're like. It's like they're in outer space or something.

Dom (34:08)

I don't know. You're talking about.

Donald (34:11)

I. I can't think of it. But they're basically like, they become. Because robots kind of do everything for them. So they're just like, yeah, little blobs rolling around.

Dom (34:20)

And so it's like, why do we literally need anything else for? I do love. I was talking to a friend on the way here, and she told me that her. She was going to help her daughter with an essay for school. And so she was just asking the adult that. My friend was asking Chad GPT some questions. And her daughter went, you're using AI. I don't want your help. And literally just walked away. She's super anti AI.

Donald (34:44)

Oh, good for.

Dom (34:44)

So maybe there's hope in a younger generation that. That. But because it. It does take away, like, I've never had to write a report longer than three paragraphs because I was homeschooled and skipped all that in life. I'm like, chat dbt. I literally did the same amount of work, but as if I had Chat GPT. But I just think it's interesting because people used to have to do work to achieve information and success.

Donald (35:18)

And you had to go to the library, you had to pull out the encyclopedias. We had to learn the Dewey Decimal System. Most of y', all, if you're younger than us, you probably don't even know what that is. But, like, you had to learn how to research and how to footnote. And I couldn't. Honestly, I couldn't tell you how to do it anymore.

Dom (35:31)

Me either, because I got to charge on my phone all the time.

Donald (35:35)

Now, I will say I like learning and I don't like. I'll look things up on Chat GPT. But I do try to go figure out, like, okay, what study did that come from? Can I find it? Can I read it? Can I get more detail? I still like reading all the books on all the topics that I really like, nutrition, fitness, longevity supplements, all that stuff, because I just like to have the knowledge. But it is like you said, it's scary to think, like, where are we gonna end up? But I also think we are seeing some things with the younger generation where they are starting to get fatigue, like electronic fatigue, where they're tired of being on their phone all the time. They're starting to set it down and just be like, I'm unplugging for X amount of time. I'm, I'm going, you know, know out for walks. They're actually saying the next generation of millionaires and billionaires are going to be people that go back to almost what, what they reference as blue collar jobs. Power washing houses, cleaning, landscaping. They like somebody was talking about a service where you can actually hire somebody to just take a walk with you, like a companion, just, just go take. Because people were so disconnected. We're like so overly connected yet disconnected. I will have days where I'm like, when did I leave my house last? It's been three days because I'm working my, you know, my gym's here, all the things are here. I get, I could get groceries delivered. And I'm like, I haven't left the house. What the frig is this?

Dom (37:05)

Yeah.

Donald (37:05)

And I'll leave and make myself just go do something to be around people.

Dom (37:10)

Even going to the grocery store.

Donald (37:11)

Yeah.

Dom (37:11)

Because it's so easy. I was last night actually I was in a little bit of a bitchy mood. I know it's shocking and I normally would never take it out on Nell, but I was like, you know, I don't know how to say the words. It's just. And I sat with myself for a minute. I was like, Donald, you need to get out of this fucking house. That's the real issue. Because you work out here, you do your work here, you like, you are always here. And half the time even like groceries, people just do delivery groceries. And I, when I went to the grocery store while I was there, I was like, God, it feels good just to have a change of scenery, right?

Donald (37:53)

Well, so I just got back from New York. I went for two days finishing up the formulations of the beverage line and I landed get to my hotel and I was just like, I kind of love it because everybody is out. It's so funny. Okay, there's a coffee shop here in like by my house. It's probably a mile and a half away way. I don't know why I don't walk to it. Like, it's not far. A mile and a half is nothing for me. I land in New York and I'm like three miles. I got this. How much time, wait, can I get back? Can I go three miles each direction and get back in time for that massage I have booked? I'm like, I could have it. It wasn't really, it was 1.7 miles each direction though. And I'm like, I can Hoof it. And I did, like, threw the coat on grab, you know, put some headphones in. Was actually listening to somebody else's podcast. Hoofed it all the way to the matcha shop. Got my matcha, hoofed it all the way. And I was like, I just got four miles in, right? And now I'm gonna go lay down and get a massage. And then I finished the massage, and I was like, I just kind of want to go walk around outside now. It's New York, so everything's really close, and every. There's so much to just see and do. But as I was walking around, I was just like, there's so many people around. It was a beautiful day. It was like, crisp air, blue sky. The. All the little restaurants and shops in this. In, like, the one area that I was at, I was on, like. I think it was Bleeker. They were doing, like, trick or treating for kids. So, like, families were out, and Halloween costumes with all these little munkins running around was just so cute.

Dom (39:22)

Yeah.

Donald (39:23)

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to live in New York. It's. It's too aggressive for me. Like, there's too much noise. It's a little.

Dom (39:30)

Yeah.

Donald (39:31)

I can't do winters anymore.

Dom (39:32)

I can't do the winters are where. But I'm like, you'd be a good New Yorker.

Donald (39:36)

But I love the pace that people walk. I'm like, yeah, like, when people walk here, I'm like, move. Get out of the way.

Dom (39:43)

Exactly.

Donald (39:44)

You got to go for a Sunday damn stroll everywhere. Right in New York, man, they're red. See, Then I was, like, eating in the hotel restaurant, and I was at the Equinox Hotel again, and, like, power suits everywhere. And I'm just listening to people all around me, and they're talking business and stuff. And I was like, this is great. I kind of want to be like, what are we talking about?

Dom (40:07)

Exactly.

Donald (40:08)

You know? So I do. I agree. Like, sometimes you just need to be around people. People. But we're limiting ourselves without even thinking about it. And then we wonder, why are we so crabby? Why do we feel so lonely and.

Dom (40:19)

Our minds don't do. It's like we have a lot of stress. You know how working out sometimes helps with stress?

Donald (40:29)

Yeah.

Dom (40:30)

Well, I think working out, your mind helps. And when information's so easily accessible, it's like we can gain a lot of facts without really doing a lot of brain work. And I think sometimes, too, we just feel. Feel under. Stimulated. Because when you're Learning about something. So I actually really like. I also enjoy learning about things, reading books and I appreciate like chat, GPT or platforms like that to be able to fact check or ask about other thoughts. I like to challenge whatever my own bias is or whatever I'm believing with that because I do love how it can just scour the Internet in one second and let me know. No other factual stuff. But for the most part I think that's a big thing too. People are not exercising their mind.

Donald (41:15)

Yes.

Dom (41:16)

Including walking through a grocery store because it's one thing to select on your phone just for one example, what you want. Like half of, more than half of everything I buy I just order and it comes to my door. But when you're out there and you're seeing and you're experiencing and you're smelling things and your, your senses are so much more heightened, I feel like that's another thing that potentially obviously I'm in no way qualified to make this statement, but it could help people with feeling that like understimulated, lethargic to me, bitchy, pissed off.

Donald (41:49)

Yeah.

Dom (41:50)

Attitude that I was feeling, you know?

Donald (41:51)

Yeah. Well it's like on one hand it's understimulated and on the other hand it's over, like overstimulated. I would say like one sense is probably overstimulated and others are under because like you're getting all, you're getting so much information into your brain. I feel like we're overloaded with information but we're starving for true knowledge. I don't know if this is true for you, but I find that for me when I get the information quick like that I don't retain it.

Dom (42:18)

Yeah.

Donald (42:19)

Like I really need to like read and process and think about it. But if I just grab it real quick like okay, great, helps me make a point somewhere or something like that. But it doesn't mean I'm going to be able to regurgitate it again later.

Dom (42:33)

Yeah.

Donald (42:33)

Or it can explain it later and that I don't like. Like if I can't explain it then I don't have the knowledge on it that I want.

Dom (42:40)

Yeah.

Donald (42:41)

So I'm trying to always go deeper but I find, yeah. Like a lot of times I'm just information, information, information, but where's the knowledge? So it's like visually overstimulated but other senses are under stimulated.

Dom (42:52)

Yeah. And you're, you're like your mind is going, but you're not experiencing.

Donald (42:57)

Yeah.

Dom (42:57)

And it's interesting. I don't know. There's a lot to it. I'm sure there's going to be more and more case studies as the robots inevitably take over what happens to humans. But it's interesting because I know with like, is it called. I love that. I'm not afraid of sounding so stupid on our podcast. Is it called transcendental meditation when you like, like, if you envision yourself on a beach enough, you will have like the physical benefits of being on a beach.

Donald (43:27)

I believe that is what it is. Okay, well, could be dumb leading the dumber though, here.

Dom (43:35)

You're welcome, ladies and gentlemen.

Donald (43:37)

Go chat. You can do this.

Dom (43:41)

We aren't quite sure, but it is interesting because I feel like technology could be used in that way for benefits for people who really struggle with like, I wonder how simulation could help with.

Donald (43:54)

Seasonal depression or something.

Dom (43:56)

Exactly. And do have similar effects as that type of meditation does.

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Dom (44:00)

But there's still nothing like the real thing. I say so get out there and like, like still get in the world. It's so important.

Donald (44:07)

Yeah, like, cause. And by the way, like, do we need? Do we need.

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Donald (45:13)

What's it called? You just said it.

Dom (45:14)

The simulation.

Donald (45:15)

The Simulation. Or can you just use your brain, right? Like, can you close your eyes and can you visualize that beach and can you hear the waves crashing? And can you remember what the. The smell of the salt water is and the feel of the sun on your skin? And like, what else do you smell like? The suntan lotion and things like that. Like that gets everything. That gets your creative juices going again. If you put on simulation, your brain doesn't have to work. You're just seeing it. So I do. You know, they say emotionally we can't. Your brain can't tell the difference between something that's actually happened and something that you. That you think has happened. Which is why we can get ourselves so worked up in fear. Because you can imagine a situation.

Dom (45:59)

Yes.

Donald (46:00)

And it feels to your body like it's happening. So for however hard you can work yourself up into fearing something or being sad about the possibility of something, you could work yourself up to ex. To have a fun experience or to be like that, that feel that's going to feel so good. And that doesn't really have to do with robots per se, but that's more just like, like again, using our brain. You know, if we could really tap into this sucker. It's the most complex computer there is, right?

Dom (46:31)

It really is. And it's under. Like we use such a small percentage of it.

Donald (46:36)

They say, well, yeah, now what are we using? Like, less. I think they say we use like 8% maybe again, fact check me.

Dom (46:43)

8, 80. I don't know.

Donald (46:45)

No, it's something really.

Dom (46:46)

No, it is like that's what I was thinking. Thinking like 10%. I would have guessed.

Donald (46:50)

And I think maybe some people use a little bit more, some people use a little bit less.

Dom (46:54)

But I am torn. So obviously, doomsday, the world's gonna end. Robots are taking over. But also, I love technology. Like, so Nell's family does not. His parents don't really speak English at all.

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Okay.

Dom (47:13)

And a lot of the older generation, his family speaks very little English. His age speaks a little bit better. But still of them who live in Puerto Rico speak mostly Spanish, so it's not as comfortable for them. And Nell told me that the new headphones from Apple have like instant Translate.

Donald (47:33)

Yeah.

Dom (47:33)

So if I wear those when we go for the holidays, I'll be able to have the translation happening. And what's cool about this? Or like the goggles that will give you the subtitles, titles. And what's cool about that is I wonder if it will actually help me learn faster.

Donald (47:52)

I think it will slow your learning down.

Dom (47:55)

The only one way to find out.

Donald (47:56)

I know. But the reason I say that is because again, you rely. You start to rely where you don't even really have to listen to what they're saying because in your ear it's going to be saying it in English.

Dom (48:07)

That's what I. That's why I feel like maybe a subtitle goggle situation is more of a better way to learn.

Donald (48:14)

I mean, you think about how we learn as babies. And it's not like there is no translate. You just have to your mom or dad or somebody. Yeah. Somebody says, ball, ball, ball. And 100 times over, you learn ball or. Yeah, more night, night. You want to go night night. Yeah, like, and you learn the words. And so I don't know. It is interesting to think about. Like, of course, there are certain things that do make it really fun, but the problem is, is we never draw the line. It's like when you're at the table in Vegas and you're up, but you don't walk away.

Dom (48:51)

Walk away.

Donald (48:52)

And then guess what? Bust house always wins. And you're sitting there with nothing. And I feel like there's certain technology to a point. Great. Love that we have lights. Appreciate the air conditioning. Phones are cool. Do I think I told you this? So I have always kept landlines in my house because was especially because we're in la that like if there's an earthquake or something and cell towers go down, the. And the telephone poles are up, you would still be able to get a hold of people. So I've always had landlines. And I had Kent call the phone company the other day because I had still have a landline here. I was like, something about the bill, something was off or whatever. And I was like, call, ask him about, blah, blah, blah. And Kent gets off the phone with him and he goes, goes, you want to hear something up? And I was like, always? And he's like, you don't have a real landline? What do you mean? Of course I do. Phones on the wall, cords attached. Like, yes, we do. And he said, no. They said it's all run through the Internet, that if your modem goes down, you won't have a landline. And I was like, what? But it like the way I'm being told, the way I'm being charged is for a landline. I was like, well, what the hell are all the telephone poles for? And he's like, don't know what those are being. Somebody's using them for something. Conspiracy theory. I can go there too. But I was like, then cancel it. Like, why am I paying for it? I have a cell phone. Like, that's for real. That's pointless. So I was super annoyed though, because I wanted the like, is it an.

Dom (50:22)

Option for you to get.

Donald (50:24)

No. All the phone companies, wow. It's all run off of your modem. From my understanding.

Dom (50:31)

You gotta guess you a satellite phone.

Donald (50:34)

We have. We have like walking talkies just in case when remember we kept having all those like mini earthquakes last year, right around this time, I stocked up.

Dom (50:47)

This is about to be the big one.

Donald (50:48)

If this is about to be the big one, I'm going to take all the. I'm going to make sure I'm as prepared as I can be. And I'm like, kent, I want you to have these at your house. Like what station, like what channel are we on? Because if you and if you and Dom are there and I'm here, like, we're not that far from each other, but God only knows if there's a huge thing. All the things stocked.

Dom (51:08)

Yeah.

Donald (51:09)

But okay, I have a question for you because at the end of our podcast, we've been doing this a little bit, so if you had to pick, you could live in, let's say, the early 90s. Okay, early 90s or right now? Like there was two worlds and it was the early 90s and that technology, or it was what we have now, it was that life. It wasn't even just the technology. It was that life.

Dom (51:41)

Yeah.

Donald (51:42)

Of the early world, that world, that time or this time.

Dom (51:46)

I think it's definitely like a scaled situation because there's thing. If I could pick and choose, it'd be a mix of both. I still think I would choose now, really, because I love the time efficiency of things. Like in the early 90s, we didn't have the Internet. We didn't have. Well, who knows what the hell I'd be doing with my life because so much of it's remote. I love, like, this is maybe not a good thing, but during the pandemic, I loved FaceTime. It. It literally like helped made it such. Such a better experience for me. It was obviously still a struggle, but whenever I felt lonely, I could FaceTime someone and have talk for hours and know that we were both in the same situation, even though we weren't in the same space, but we were like there for each other. And I do love, I love, even though it's scary, the advances of it and it's scary, like with the announcement of Amazon laying off all those people for robots. I do love the technology that we have today.

Donald (52:50)

I'd pick the 90s because even despite all the advances and how great they are, I think that we had more connection with each other. I think we were, you know, for. For everything that we have access to, I feel like we're just getting more and more unhealthy mentally and physically.

Dom (53:11)

Yeah.

Donald (53:11)

Than we ever have been. I think we've just lost a little Bit of, like, humanity in all of it. Like, we've talked about, like, the Lear aspect. Like, I think back to those times, and I'm like, yeah. Like, I want these kids to feel safe at school again. I want to be able to, like, okay, great. On the weekends, and you go and you do things with your.

Dom (53:30)

Yeah.

Donald (53:31)

Friends in the mall and play in.

Dom (53:33)

Neighborhoods, and parents are like, come on. When the street lights come on, it's not teenagers.

Donald (53:37)

Like, what the teenagers did, like, give me a field party. Like, because I graduated in 98. I graduated high school in 98, so I was a freshman in 94. And I think back to, like, okay, what were the fun things that we were doing? We were going to the amusement park, and, like, we were.

Dom (53:51)

Were.

Donald (53:51)

Yeah. Like, you walked around the mall, and I know kids still do that, but it's. Even the malls are, like, more. They're. The energy isn't the same because not everybody shops there. Right. Everybody's shopping online. And it's like, I like that instant gratification. I want to go and I want to shop, and I want to try things on, and. And, yeah, you could pick up the phone and call somebody. Just, like. I get that seeing somebody is obviously nice, like, when we were stuck in the pandemic and everything, but I sometimes think about it, like, one of favorite things to do when I was a kid at my grandma's house, we would go. She had this attic that was, like, a big attic. You could go up, and there was. Everything was up. And me and my cousins and brothers and sisters, we would go up there, and we would go through photos for hours, like, photo books. We would come down, and we'd be like, who's this? And, oh, my God, look at that funny thing. And. Da, da. And I don't. Do you print photos?

Dom (54:45)

No.

Donald (54:45)

Very rarely. I'm like, these kids are gonna have to go through Instagram to replace. Remember what. Like, their parents were, like, younger. Like, there's no. I know things like that. Just, like, it's so silly.

Dom (54:57)

I also think, like, communities were stronger, like, local communities, because those were the people that you ended up doing life with.

Donald (55:06)

You knew everybody. You knew everybody at the school. You knew all the neighbors. Like, yes. Gatherings.

Dom (55:12)

People can live in a neighborhood and not know, like, the four neighbors around them.

Donald (55:18)

I don't know any of mine, you know, Years.

Dom (55:19)

Exactly.

Donald (55:20)

Been here for five years.

Dom (55:21)

Yeah, exactly.

Donald (55:23)

The guy that lives across the street introduced himself to me the other day at the parade. But I've been here for five years.

Dom (55:30)

Wow. Right?

Donald (55:32)

I Know, like, so that is two other people in this neighborhood and this is a community where people are like out and about and things like that.

Dom (55:37)

That is something I miss. I also miss the excitement of waiting for TV shows. Yes. Like, oh my God, I can't wait till 4:30 when my show comes on. You know what I mean?

Donald (55:47)

You rushed home from school, made sure you can watch Saved by The Bell and 90210 and Melrose Place. And if you missed it, oh, you're. You're not cool at school tomorrow because you don't know what happened and you're not in on that conversation.

Dom (55:59)

Yeah.

Donald (56:00)

Even like commercials and things like that I think about all the time and I'm like, I know at first we thought it was so cool to not have commercials. At this point I'm like, I would kill for a commercial.

Dom (56:12)

Yeah.

Donald (56:12)

Like, like just. I do like that a lot of TV shows are going back to releasing one a week. I appreciate that.

Dom (56:19)

Streaming.

Donald (56:20)

Streaming so that I can't binge watch it all at once.

Dom (56:23)

So I can actually. Control yourself on do something with my life.

Donald (56:26)

But yeah, I think if I had the choice between where we're at right now and there and the 90s. Take me back.

Dom (56:34)

Yeah. Interesting.

Donald (56:37)

So I don't know. I guess we'll see. Maybe.

Dom (56:40)

I'm sure before long there's going to be a time machine so we can.

Donald (56:43)

Go back and go back and I'll going to beg.

Dom (56:46)

Not mine. Yeah. I'm getting back in my time machine.

Donald (56:49)

I'm g. Stay here. Good luck. There.

Dom (56:52)

Exactly.

Donald (56:53)

That looks like it's falling apart.

Dom (56:55)

Right? Right.

Donald (56:57)

I want to know what you guys think.

Dom (56:58)

I was going to say the same thing. I'd love to hear what you guys think. What you're. If you would like to go back to the 90s or that time that you felt was maybe simpler times and a little less heavy on the technology or if you're like me and you know it might be the end of it all, but you're really here for it. Let us know. Know you can email us at Everything's Perfect Gmail.

Donald (57:19)

Everything's perfect.

Dom (57:21)

Yeah, I'm like, I that up. Everything's perfect podcast gmail.com and you can.

Donald (57:26)

Find us on the gram at Everything's Perfect official. You can also DM us there. That's it. You guys robots? I don't know.

Dom (57:39)

We'll see.

Donald (57:39)

I hope one doesn't come to get me.

Dom (57:41)

Literally. Hopefully our podcast recorded. I'm pretty sure the robots we could blame for that too.

Donald (57:45)

Right?

Dom (57:46)

All the issues. Until next time, you guys. We'll see you next.

Donald (57:50)

We'll see you next week.

Dom (57:52)

Bye.

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