B (1:39)

Yeah. How you went. You had a good weekend.

A (1:43)

Oh, I was like. I did.

B (1:44)

I. I think.

A (1:46)

No, I did. I don't know what day it is. I did. I went to Backstreet Boys.

B (1:51)

Yeah. At the Sphere.

A (1:53)

The Sphere. The Sphere is insane.

B (1:55)

Honestly, like, I was more of an NSync guy than backstreet Boy guy. Even though I. I appreciate the Backstreet Boys, I was like, I'll take nsyn. Seen any, like, what makes their concert look really cool? Not only that they're iconic, but just the. That venue looks unreal.

A (2:12)

I will first. Yes. The venue is crazy. I will give it to them. When you stop and realize, like, these guys are in their 50s and they're still doing it and they still sound good.

B (2:23)

Yeah.

A (2:23)

Like, I'm sure they had backup tracks on. But they were singing. You could tell that they were singing. And I was like, this is impressive. Like, they're doing it, man. Like, they're up there. They're doing the dance moves. Like, I remember. God, what was it, like, eight Years ago, I went and saw NKOTB when they first came back out, and I.

B (2:40)

Was like, oh, boys, I don't even know who nkot.

A (2:42)

New Kids on the Block. But they started that. And I was like, y' all needed a few more rehearsals, Like, a little more. I was like, I can't sing, but.

B (2:51)

Some one on ones, but we're not.

A (2:53)

Quite where we used to be. But they were great. We actually met Kevin from the Backstreet Boys at. I'm joking, that oatmeal bar I just ate. It's fine. Everything's perfect. Okay, here's what's funny. So we flew jsx. It's like semi private flying. Not really, but sort of. So we get to. I get to the airport first. I'm waiting for my girlfriend Natalie to get there, and I sit down. It's packed because flights were delayed from weather. So I kind of sit at this table where other people are sitting. And there's this girl behind me, and I definitely recognize her. I'm like, I know this girl, but I don't know from where, so I don't want to say anything. I'm so glad I didn't because I should have known who it was. My. Finally, my friend Natalie gets there. She walks up and I get a text from her and I was like, you're texting me? And she's like. And I look, I open it and I start reading it like a dumbass out loud. And I was like, did you know Paris? Paris Jackson, Michael Jackson's daughter.

B (3:53)

Oh.

A (3:54)

Was sitting like this close behind me.

B (3:57)

Oh, my God.

A (3:58)

I was like, so glad I didn't say, do I know you?

B (4:01)

That's. That's wild.

A (4:03)

But then there's other people. There's like this mom and three little kids at the table too. And this guy walks up, super tall, skinny, crazy hair, like, long. Very much looks like he is out of the Midwest. And my girlfriend Natalie looks at me again and she's like, oh, my God. She's like, it's a Backstreet Boy. I was like, what? I'm like, no, why would they be here? I was like, they would fly private. I was like, the show's in like four hours. She's like, autumn, it's a Backstreet Boy. And I'm like, you NSync? I know all of them. I know all their names. I could tell you all about them. But while I know the Backstreet Boys music, I didn't necessarily, like, know each one individually.

B (4:43)

Yeah.

A (4:43)

So I Google it, and sure as it was Kevin.

B (4:46)

Oh, my God.

A (4:47)

And I was like, I am in this phase. You're gonna be very proud of your friend. Where I am like, screw it. I'm just gonna ask. Like, I'm just gonna ask for the photo. Like, the worst that he could say is no. Who cares? Like, I've had to say no to people before, but I've also said yes to, so. Right. And he, like, he talked to the woman at our table, and I was like, that must be another one of the guy's wives. Sure enough, it was. I think it was AJ's wife and kids. But Kevin then goes kind of like this other area. And I was like, I'm just going to go ask him for a photo. I was like, we cannot be on our way to see the Backstreet Boys. And a Backstreet Boy is five seconds away from us on our flight.

B (5:24)

That is.

A (5:24)

And I'm not going to ask him for the photo.

B (5:26)

Right.

A (5:26)

And he was super nice. Like, I asked him. He was like, yeah, he. We were like, you know, thank you for doing this for the fans. It's great.

B (5:32)

Did you tell him I'm on my way to.

A (5:34)

Yeah, we're like, we're on our way. And were. We were worried because we were delayed an hour, and I was like, well, the show can't start without Kevin, so I think we're fine.

B (5:40)

You're like, should we split an Uber when we get there or same place? That is so cool.

A (5:47)

Right?

B (5:48)

That's really, like, such a small world. I. I think it's so wild. Like, my dad, for example, when he travels, like. Like, for example, if he would come here, he would not go home the day before. He has to be back to work. He wants a day buffer in between to rest and relax. And I'm like, these. These people performing are just popping up. They're just showing up an hour before their show. It's crazy.

A (6:17)

All right, this is good. It is, you guys, we're tasting one of the formulations from my beverage line. I've tried a couple. We can't say what flavor this is, but I like it.

B (6:31)

Oh, the flavors are secret.

A (6:33)

I haven't said what the flavors are because get knocked off, you know, if it takes me a little longer to get it out there.

B (6:40)

Very good.

A (6:41)

Doesn't it taste almost like a gummy candy?

B (6:43)

What the flavor is? Because we peeled off the label. I remember part of it. Okay.

A (6:48)

But.

B (6:48)

Oh, it tastes. Really doesn't.

A (6:50)

It almost tastes like. I mean, jello. It almost tastes like liquid jello.

B (6:59)

Tastes Like a cocktail. I've had a time or two. To me, perfect one. And I've had it more than once because it's really good. It is delicious.

A (7:06)

I. Oh, okay.

B (7:08)

This is fun.

A (7:09)

3 out of 6.

B (7:11)

I've never had a friend kicking off a brand new empire before and I've got to be a part of the taste test of it.

A (7:17)

I love it. I'm so excited.

B (7:18)

That's great. Oh yes, that's real good. I can't wait for people to be able to try it.

A (7:29)

I know. I have. I have some ideas in term because I've had actually a couple people email us now at everything's perfect and ask about possible investment opportunities. So I think that's really cool. There's also a way I was talking with the guy that I work with that is helping me with it where he was saying like, technically I could do like a go fund me.

B (7:51)

Oh yeah. But you should, honestly.

A (7:52)

But where I would probably, maybe the way I would try to do it, I don't know, I gotta look into it more is like I would do like limited supply order and essentially your GoFundMe would buy like, oh, it's, you know, for $25 you'll get a sample six pack or. Or, you know, for X amount of dollars you could get a case or whatever. I don't know. I'd have to do the math on everything. So essentially people would be able to get it, start trying it, but it would also like, they would sort of be investing in helping me get it off the ground.

B (8:25)

Yeah.

A (8:25)

So I don't know. We'll see.

B (8:26)

That's so cool. I can't wait.

A (8:28)

Yeah. Yes. The fear was Sphere was awesome. I'll tell you more about it, but I kind of want to hear about all the things you did back home.

B (8:35)

Oh my God. So if you guys missed past episodes or. I'm from Dayton, Ohio.

A (8:41)

I'm sorry, I have to tell you one thing.

B (8:43)

Oh, what?

A (8:44)

I don't think we fully announced whether or not, like what? If you quit your job or not. People have been messaging us asking if you have quit your job or not.

B (8:53)

I did so on a technicality. I'm still employed but totally off the schedule. And they were like, it's kind of nice. Well, actually, this is, this is cool because they like. My manager messaged me a couple weeks ago now and was like, if you ever want to work a celebrity shift where you just pop in, say, let us know, we'd love to have you. And that was really good. And if there's been a couple opportunities that I could work. But I was actually talking to Nell and he's like, just, do you remember how you felt when you were there? And I was like, shit, you got a real good point. Like, why would I do that? I was not happy. So yeah, I quit. And I'm still like in very good relationship and just. Exactly. I feel so free. And that part of the reason I could go home last weekend, it was literally less than a week out, I bought my ticket and decided to take the trip was because I had that freedom in my schedule. So I quit and I'm so thankful and it's going great.

A (9:54)

Okay, good. Now tell us about home.

B (9:57)

So you know, my. All my immediate family have moved out of Ohio. Like my brothers and their families and my mom and dad, but my grandfather and aunts and uncles and cousins and also a lot of my friends I grew up with, I lived in Ohio till I was 27 were there. So it was really cool visiting and also it was really cool because. Excuse me. When I was in Ohio, the latest podcast that released was the one of my coming out story and I was just getting so many messages from people that meant so much to me of like my story meant to them. They were. A lot of them were sharing their personal stories and it felt really cool because I was at. I was at the location of all of those people that I was in the closet around and they were a big part of my coming out story.

A (10:51)

And you were there with Nell and.

B (10:53)

I was there with Nell. Exactly. So it's like a whole nother full.

A (10:56)

Circle, like right out and open and in a loving relationship.

B (11:00)

Free and amazing about it. So my. The whole trip is awesome. We stayed at this. A new hotel opened. Dayton has this old building called the Arcade and it's this really cool event space. I was like, bitch, Autumn and I need to come here and do an event just because it's so pretty.

A (11:15)

Yes, please.

B (11:16)

Like let's make it happen. And the hotel's connected to this historical landmark and it was really awesome staying there and centrally located for me to see all kinds of people. There were all kinds of new restaurants and bars, but also some places that I went to back in the day that I visited. But a funny story just laying the groundwork. So my mom's my Uncle Greg. He's like a macho guy. He's like you did not with when. When he was growing up, when they were in high school. Yeah, like, like he was always. Now he's. I think he's 67 or 68, but he's just always been a tough guy. And several weeks, I think after I came out to my mom years ago, word got to him and he sent me a text and I think it was the first text he ever sent me in my life that was just that he loved me and he want, he wanted me to know that and it meant so much. So anyways, last time I was in town a year ago, they had Nell and I over with their whole family, like their kids who are my cousins and stuff like that, and had a whole food spread and everything. It was so much fun. So this time we went, we got dinner at a restaurant I used to work at. And when I got there.

A (12:28)

Not the haunted one?

B (12:29)

No, not that. That one's torn down. The ghost start flying free. But my aunt was like, oh, we're going out after this. And I was like, okay. So we went to this place called Tender Mercy that was really cool. And I had some other friends show up and those friends were like, we're gonna go to the gay bars. So I was like, I don't know. And my uncle was like, I'll go. He was like, we can go, that's fine. And I was like, well, just so you know, I don't, I don't know how it's gonna be like if I brought someone to the gay bars in la, I know what night to go. I know what it'll be like, right? So if you're bringing like your. In my mind, my macho, almost 70 year old uncle who's still a tough guy. And then I just was like, I don't know what to expect. So we go to the gay bar and we find out it's a drag show. I was like, oh, that can be fun for everyone. So I got us a line of chairs up at the front, I got some change and got a bunch of ones for everyone to tip the drag queen. Because, you know, drag shows are like good.

A (13:30)

Yeah, good fun.

B (13:32)

And so the drag queen came out and performed and then.

A (13:35)

Oh, no, your laugh kills me.

B (13:38)

I was like, okay. Waiting for the next drag queen. And they announced, and this guy comes out and starts taking his clothes off. And the drag queen was the host. But the whole show was a male review, like Stritter show. And when I tell you it was like, it was like, like no shade. But it was just not I would have ever wanted. Exactly. It was a Dayton, Ohio mail review. Like the guy came up to me, it was like, where do you dance? I was like, what? He Said, you look like a stripper. So does he.

A (14:14)

And pointed to now in our bedroom.

B (14:17)

Thank you. But I'm actually not. He's like, sorry, my Addie's wearing off. Like, okay. Anyways, my poor, oh my God, like 67 year old macho uncle supporting me always has come to the gay bar and I sit him front row at what turns out to be a male strip club. Just shaking ass. Like little like, like when I tell you, man.

A (14:44)

And it's not like good ass.

B (14:45)

It's not like Abby, no, no, it's not. Oh, it was messy. It's messy ass. I was like, oh my God. I was like, I should have swear.

A (14:57)

To God program for that.

B (14:58)

I was like, I swear to the turn to my uncle. I was like, I swear to God, I had no idea. I would have never brought you here. He was like, I just won't look. It's like, if they don't mess with me, it's all good. I mean, he was so just so I was just reminded about all the love and my family and support that I have and literally like my uncle hanging out with us till almost one in the morning.

A (15:21)

A. That's awesome.

B (15:23)

Yeah, it was really, really fun. It was.

A (15:25)

I'm so glad you guys had so much fun. I was watching along. I had a little fomo.

B (15:29)

Yeah, you have to come next time. We'll do an Ohio tour. So you come with me to mine.

A (15:35)

And then we'll go to Cleveland.

B (15:37)

Because I've actually never been to Cedar Point and I would like to take a Cedar Point trip anyways.

A (15:42)

Oh, I don't want to go. See why Cedar Point iconic them because the roller coasters are like some of the biggest in the world. Girl. Can't handle it anymore. Did you see the reel I shared in my stories of Kevin Hart and Jimmy Fallon on the roller coaster?

B (15:58)

No.

A (16:01)

I'm gonna play for you right now. It's too good. But I don't want to go to Cedar Boy. No, I would go, but I don't know how many of the rides I would be able to do. I had a. I literally fear I will like have a stroke on the ride. I'm not kidding you.

B (16:13)

You know what's so funny about this? I just remembered last night I had a dream that I was on a roller coaster and it was this crazy, scary roller coaster and I was like terrified the whole time. And I don't know, I can't imagine. It's been sounding. Yeah, I'm like, what's happening in my real life to Give me these dreams. And there was. In my dream, there's this part where you just. The track was broken and we just flew off of it. And then it was like we landed on the ground and someone turned to me and said, yeah, they make you. They want you to think that it's broken. And I was like, so anyway, huh?

A (16:48)

I want to analyze that.

B (16:49)

I was like, if. Yeah, if anyone can psychoanalyze that. Who's listening? Hit me up. Let me know what's.

A (16:54)

So that means you're jumping off and you think that, like, you're not sure if you're going to land safe, but really your destiny is already there and your landing is going to be good and you're going to keep going.

B (17:04)

Oh, I'll take it.

A (17:06)

Why not? I'm qualified.

B (17:07)

All the explanation I need.

A (17:11)

Speaking of flying, when we were at the Sphere, first of all, I paid good money for these tickets. Let me tell you, they were not cheap, okay? And I mean, it's the sphere, so you're literally surrounded by like, 360. Like, it's IMAX, essentially.

B (17:28)

Huh.

A (17:29)

Okay, so fine, you're gonna have good seats, but, like, we were in the four hundreds. I didn't realize that mean I'd be sitting at. On the top of the sphere.

B (17:38)

It is wild.

A (17:39)

Heights are not great. Hence the roller coaster. St. So we go in and we have. You have to take four escalators to get up. And by the time we get on the third, I'm looking at my girlfriend, I'm already having a problem. And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna look at the, like, little steps. I can't look over the edge because it's freaking me out. Then we gotta go up the fourth one. Fine. We walk in, like, you know, you walk through the curtain to go to your seats, and I was like, oh, my gosh. You are at the top. And it feels like all you're gonna do is, like, topple forward. I'm like, people better not stand up up here. Like, do not get crazy. Sit down. Like, literally, I was about to be that person. Like, then all the graphics start, so you feel like you're in it, and it looks like you're in outer space and things are flying. And I was like, oh. Oh, Jesus. Take the wheel. We are dying right now. It took a good 20 minutes. I will say that. I was like, are there warnings all over this place? See any? There should be some seizure warnings. And my girlfriend was like, yeah, there are. I was like, oh, okay. I didn't see Him. Then once you kind of settle in, you're like, okay. And once it goes dark, I'm like, okay. I can't quite tell the difference in the height level. Also, when I stood, I made sure my ass was against that chair the whole time.

B (18:58)

I was like, it looks iconic. I mean, it looks like someplace otherworldly to be at.

A (19:06)

We keep talking about my birthday, and I really just think, like, I know you guys don't want to go to Pitbull. Fine. But I think, like, first of all, the fountain blue was beautiful. It's brand new in Vegas. It's a non smoking casino.

B (19:18)

Okay.

A (19:19)

So much fun.

B (19:20)

Good outside for my smoke breaks.

A (19:23)

I'm just saying, because, you know, sometimes, like, when you say the hotels and it's like, yeah, smoky.

B (19:27)

It's like, so gross. Smell like it.

A (19:28)

You're feeling. Yeah.

B (19:30)

100.

A (19:30)

No, it was great. And they have a really nice pool, but we could go. They have other things playing at the sphere. Like, I think the wizard of Oz has started. Like, I just think a day or two in Vegas could be. So two is max. I can't do more than 48 hours.

B (19:47)

Yeah.

A (19:47)

But it could be really fun.

B (19:49)

I think so.

A (19:50)

And I want you to see the sphere. It was so cool.

B (19:53)

Okay, I'm down.

A (19:55)

It's Vegas, baby.

B (19:56)

I know. I. While you were talking, I was like, oh, we were gonna see wizard of Oz.

A (20:00)

I know. So we could still go and see wizard of Oz and maybe we just do something else, like a Cirque show or something.

B (20:07)

Yeah.

A (20:07)

And we can see who else is there. There.

B (20:09)

Yeah, there's all. There's all kinds of.

A (20:11)

I think. Is there?

B (20:13)

I'd be down for that. Is Kelly Clarkson still there? I'm a big Kelly fan.

A (20:17)

No, because her. Her ex husband just died.

B (20:19)

Right.

A (20:20)

Even her regular TV show, she just took a break from.

B (20:23)

Yeah. You know.

A (20:26)

Yeah.

B (20:27)

Yeah.

A (20:28)

But other. In other news, do you remember me telling you I went and got my brain scanned?

B (20:35)

Yes.

A (20:36)

So I got my results back. I finally, like, talked with the doctor the other day. Fascinating. First of all, again, this is the type of care that I feel like people should have. I was saying this. I did a Instagram story about it the other day, but I was saying, like, you know, so often you look at somebody and they're a certain way and you just think, like, that's their personality and they can change and, like, why are you being this way? And you don't stop to think, like, their brain might just be wired in a way that, like, that's not a. Oh, oh, you're just being an ass. Or, oh, you can control this. Or, oh, you shouldn't feel that type of way. Like, so when we were looking at it. So they do a couple things. You do two different tests, like, on a computer.

B (21:19)

One's like, like, image tests.

A (21:20)

Well, the first thing you're doing on the computer, you're actually doing, like, a game test. Because they want to see, like, your reaction speed and how many things you get, like, right. Like, focus. And they'll do it when you're relaxed, and they'll do it when you're stimulated, like, under quote, unquote stress. And then they have.

B (21:34)

How did they get you relaxed?

A (21:36)

Let me tell you. I did it at the worst time ever, because it was like, literally like three days after I got broken up with. And I was like, I don't know.

B (21:43)

I didn't really know this is gonna work on me.

A (21:45)

When I scheduled this test, I really didn't anticipate this. This thing. But no, she actually told me that it's when. What they're looking at there. There could be minor shifts day to day, but this is how your brain is wired to work. And so. And you don't have caffeine or anything before you take the test. And then the other one they have you do is like. It's more like facial. Like, they'll. They'll show you a bunch of different faces, and they have different emotions on them, but you have to identify what emotion it is. And then they'll have you do a test where it's like, how focused can you stay? Doing, like, a tedious, dumb task. So they're. They're checking all these different ways that your brain is working, essentially. And then they scan it. Then they actually put you in, like, they almost like an MRI tube, and they do imaging of it, and they're looking to see how brain blood flows to the outer brain and the inner brain and, like, the health of your brain, which I think, again, is so cool to know. Like, and they could tell if your brain has had trauma to it, like injury. So long and short. She was actually super impressed with how healthy my brain is. She was like, in fact, your image. Because they'll pull up like a sort of like. Like a healthy one to compare it against. For a woman my age, and she's like, yours is actually healthier than the healthy we use. And she's like, I look at a lot of these every day, and this is incredibly healthy. And I was like, okay, well, so that's good. Then there was like this one top part. Like the top where it looks like it's this tiny little hole. It's not really a hole, but it's tiny little thing where there's like less blood flow. She's like, so that would be a trauma to your brain. And I was like, yeah. There was two car accidents. I was in, in high school. One I was with my grandma and somebody ran a red light and T boned us, so whiplash. And another one was with my girlfriend when I was like 16 and she made a left too soon and somebody T boned us, so whiplash again. And then when I was in college, when I was dancing, we were doing this dance and there was like these like long wooden sticks and people would hold them and we would grab them and have to like swing and do a trick. And I did it. And when I jumped and did my swing under, the one girl accidentally like lost her grip and I fell on the back of my head. So I've had like three sort of major traumas, so they could tell and that it's just a little less blood flow. She's like, there's a couple supplements you could take that'll improve this. They could see, like to my temporal lobes that there was a little less blood flow. They could see. She was like, okay. The way. Because when they look at your inside of your brain, they're looking for balance in blood flow. So there's certain things that should be lit up. There's certain things that really shouldn't be. They could tell. She's like, you're a glass half empty person. She's like, this part of your brain, like you're. You're wired. Your brain is ready to respond, ready to react. You are waiting for the other shoe to drop. And she's like, they could tell that I had like post traumatic stress from childhood emotional. Like that's what they could see lighting up in my brain.

B (24:47)

Wow.

A (24:47)

And it's not like they're asking you questions. This is not them psychoanalyzing you. This is going. We see what's active in your brain, and this part of your brain means that. But they could also see that this one other part had like more blood flow to it than what they would expect in an adult. Usually it's more blood flow like that for a kid. And they said, she's like, you're really self motivated even in stressful times, aren't you? And I was like, yeah. And she's like, yeah, you have, you're more stimulated in that part of your brain. And I was thinking about that in terms of like health and wellness. And you know, so many people struggle, right? They ask like, how do you get motivated and how do you stay motivated? And for me it's sometimes a harder question to answer because I'm like, you just do it. You're not always motivated. You just go like, you know, you need to do it for your health. And then so when she said that I was thinking about it, I was like, okay, so what if somebody else has less? Like I have more, which means I'm already overstimulated for it. So what if somebody doesn't even have the base? Like, what if they have less? Then they're going to struggle more totally. But maybe if they knew that automatically, then maybe they would be able to go, okay, I already know, like I'm under stimulated. So it's not just like this. I don't care. That's how my brain is. So now I just really need to set up a routine around the fact that I need to get this workout in because my brain is not going to push me to do it.

B (26:06)

I wonder if someone like an experiment where someone did that brain scan and then if someone went three months of a routine of working out and maybe a nutri, like whatever the thing is, would you see a difference if there would be more blood? Like if that part of their brain would read healthier once doing it.

A (26:27)

It'd be an interesting anti inflammatory diet, supplements, like yeah, it would be really interesting to see. She also said like my processing speed, like the rate at which I take information in and process it. She's like, like yours might be one of the highest I've ever seen. She's like, I've never seen it. Which people always give me a hard time about at work. They're always like, you're, you're so quick, you don't give anybody a chance to catch up to you. But in my mind I'm like, what is like get on the same page? Yeah, like, hello, did you have your caffeine for the day? I haven't, but let's go. But again, that's, I feel like that's valuable information for me to have because then I can go, okay, Autumn, you need to cool your jet. Yeah, you need to give somebody a chance. It's maybe it's not that they're not paying attention or they're not thinking through it. I just apparently take information in very quickly.

B (27:17)

That's interesting. It really is so true. Like a lot of things you said I found interesting. My Aunt in Ohio. She's actually the first. Her and my uncle Kathy and Kat and Jim. They're the first people I saw when we got there, we went straight from the airport to dinner with them. But she's a natural path. And, and she had. Years ago, she got this machine that like this foot machine where you, you put your, your feet in this bucket of water. I guess not bucket, but whatever the thing would be called. And you. There's the machine in it and you put a certain amount of salt in it and then you run it. And it's supposed to pull parasites and to toxins out of the sole of your feet. But what's interesting is so I did that and it was disgusting. It looked like vomit, like thick. You can literally see little parasites in it. And. But there's a sheet that comes with it. And I was. She bought this at a trade show that I was with her at for frownies actually. And the. Based on the color and like the thickness and how it looks says where you're mostly detoxing from. And mine was my gallbladder, which is interesting. So I was like, okay. But you know, there's a lot of like people who would say whatever, that's just people making.

A (28:41)

I've known many people to do this.

B (28:43)

Well. And so she also got them. And this is years ago and I know very limited about it, but just to, to your point, she got a machine called the quantum physics machine. And it's something, I think, I think we put stuff around our wrist and around our head and it hooks you up to this machine and does its thing and it does a full body scan and can tell you parts of your body that are not at the frequency that they're supposed to be to be most healthy. And this machine came back and the machine totally separate from the other one. One of my top two was my gallbladder. And I was like, this is. That's more than a coincidence.

A (29:22)

Yeah.

B (29:22)

And when she put my grandmother on that, because the machine would come back. Fact, it's been so many years. I should call her after this and. And like have a follow up about this. But there my grandmother, before she passed, went on it. And my grandmother passed right when 80 Day Obsession released. So this is almost like 10 years ago. And there were two really traumatic. The machine will give you estimated dates of trauma of when the parts of your body like were thrown out of whack.

A (29:50)

We gotta go to Disney.

B (29:51)

Right. And my grandmother's dates. One of them was when I had a cousin who was born With a lot of physical complications, and she lived past her life expectancy, but she died as a teenager. And it's like she wasn't. She was immobile. She couldn't. She was non verbal.

A (30:10)

Right.

B (30:10)

That kind of person. And so that the date that she died was one of the dates that came up for my grandmother. And the second one, I think, if I remember correctly, it was when her dad died. And. And it's like.

A (30:24)

Like, how would it know that?

B (30:25)

Exactly. Like, exactly. And so it's just so true. And it's so funny we're talking about this because this morning I was talking to a friend of mine who's also in our ongoing challenge group that we have going, and she was saying how after she finished, she just started 80 day obsession with us, and today was cardio core. And afterwards, when she was down in child pose, she just started crying. She was like, I don't know why. I said, well, girl, you're not alone. I have been there before.

A (30:57)

Yeah.

B (30:57)

And I said, the thing is, I think when you just work your body so much, you get to the. Those parts of your body that are. That are holding tension and emotion. And she mentioned. I've never read this book. I don't. So I'm not promoting it, but the body keeps the score or something like that. Yes, it is so true.

A (31:16)

I've had it happen many times during workouts when I was a fitness competitor. It would just happen. I'd be standing there, tears be streaming down my face. My coach would just stand there looking at me. And he knew, like, he knew. Yeah, he was just like. And I would look at him like, I don't know. And he's like, I do. You're. You're just holding emotion, and when you work that hard, you can't grip, and so your body releases it. And he'd be like, go ahead, cry. Just don't stop. You got six more reps. I'm like, okay, you. But. All right. But you end up feeling so much better afterwards when you release that. It's so good for you to get, like, to not hold those emotions in. But I'm gonna bring up something. I'm not gonna say names, but I'm sure you remember a few months ago, I received a message from somebody very close that was telling me why we weren't talking anymore. And they referenced, like, oh, I almost. I almost hesitate to say this because I don't want people to be like, yeah, Autumn's negative. Because I'm really not. Like, I actually work very hard to Have a positive mindset. But finding out that my brain is wired for anxiety. Like, they were like, oh, you're gonna. You're anxious. Like, that's. And PTS from childhood and that I'm wired as the glass is half empty. So, like, to. To be as positive as I am.

B (32:37)

Is actually, you're fighting a loot.

A (32:39)

You're fighting an uphill battle. And that person had said to me was like, oh, sometimes you're negative. Even though, like, they would jump in on the negative conversation or, like, not even the negative kind of like the. You know, you just vent to friends.

B (32:52)

Yeah.

A (32:53)

But anyways, I was just thinking about that, and I was like, you know, you can be so judgmental to people, and you're over here thinking, like, Autumn's just venting and feeling this way, but my brain is wired, expecting the world to. To just eat me alive.

B (33:14)

Yeah.

A (33:15)

And it's like. So you could. Like, if you know these things about your friends, you probably could actually have a. A more helpful conversation with your friends or. Or loved ones. Right. Like, we're gonna get Dom scanned because Dom has ocd. We know that anxiety. And I actually think that if he just, you know, we deal with a lot of the stuff with his religion, like, with him, and he can't tell, like, well, is God telling me to do a certain thing? Or does God want me to do this or not want me to do that? And it's been a battle for, like, the last year and a half. And because God isn't standing right in front of you and he can answer you, yes, I want you to do that, or I can't, it's very hard for him to wrap his brain around. When we say Dom, that's just. That's your ocd. You're ruminating on it. That's the other thing. I ruminate a lot. And they can see that. And I was. So Dom heard me explaining it, and he goes, I think. I think if they could show me on the scan that that's what my brain does, I would be able to accept that that's what it was and that it wasn't God telling me what to do. That's huge.

B (34:19)

That's huge.

A (34:20)

That's huge. If he can. So I'm gonna take him. I gotta just set it up. But if he could just see that, like, yes, this part of your brain is lighting up. It's a little overly active. So when. And you're ruminating on a thought that isn't a real thing, then you can.

B (34:36)

Do something different with the feelings that you have because you, there's a difference from feeling and knowing. And so that' thing when you might feel anxious, but when you know it's because you are predisposed to feeling anxiety in scenarios where it's not necessary, then sometimes it lands different.

A (34:55)

Yeah. And I have all these times in life. Look, I'm not, I'm not great at it obviously. Like we're all a work in progress. But I've definitely had times and periods where when I'm really focusing and working on seeing the good and being positive and focusing on that, that then that's obviously the energy I have and that's what I project and I feel much better. And inevitably I kind of, you know, if I, you, you start to feel good. So just like anything on a health and wellness journey, I feel great. So I don't have to do all the hard work. Right. And backslide.

B (35:24)

Yeah.

A (35:25)

And then all of a sudden you're like, shoot, here I am again, stuck in the sort of like negative place. So like the last month or so I've really tried to go back to like, let me stop running the worst case scenarios. Let me run the good. Like what, Listen, I, I, we, I know what the bet or what the worst could be, but what could the best be? Because the universe is not set up for failure.

B (35:49)

Right.

A (35:50)

It's not set up that failure is more likely than success. It's really the energy that we put into whatever we're doing. Right. Like, unless you're expecting, you know, overnight success. Well, okay, it might not be set up for that, but it's like, like you could spend all this time thinking about the worst case scenarios or you could spend all that same effort thinking about what could be the best case scenario and it's going to leave such a different feeling in your body. So I'm just really like, even with the beverage line, I am like, yes, it could, it could not work. I could not get investors. Or I could just not get, like, I could get investors and not get picked up. I could, I could run the list.

B (36:26)

Yeah.

A (36:27)

But oh my gosh, it could also go amazing and it could be exactly. It could be more than I could ever dream. It could be. And then it can go into the food line that I want it to be and it could be a huge thing and it could really help people and it could be this next step in my career of what I want to do and bring and leave in the world.

B (36:46)

Yeah.

A (36:47)

And when you focus on it like that, it's so much more Exciting than, oh, this could go really bad really fast.

B (36:52)

That's right. I heard something. I don't remember if I've talked about it on here or not, but it said that it takes your brain, like, zero seconds to believe a negative thing, but it takes it about 15 seconds to believe a positive thing.

A (37:11)

Really?

B (37:11)

Yeah. And so when you are so. People are like, oh, they see the world crumbling, but it's because they just need to give a little more time of thinking about the positive, and then you'll believe that it. But you just have to think on that a little bit more. And so it's a choice that we can all make like this. Every one of us can think about something we're doing or want to have. You know, like me quitting my job.

A (37:35)

Yeah.

B (37:35)

The amount of times even in the last two weeks where I'm like, stuff could get really bad. It's like, Donald, wait. Stuff could also get really good. And why are you mourning the loss of something that was not bringing you joy? And why are you limiting the potential of what you can do now and what you have to bring to the world? And. And like, there. There's just so much more when you take the action and intention of thinking positively about your circumstance.

A (38:01)

Yeah.

B (38:02)

I was talking to one of my clients today, and she meant. She said, we were talking about nutrition, and we were talking about how when something stressful happens, she sees that it's like almost a direct going for food and not making good choices. And I was like, you know, something I like to think about is what I can add before I think about what I can take away. And so something you might want to try. I was like, I don't know how you feel about breath work, but if you took. If you stopped and just practice some, I could show you some breathing exercises you can get online and follow some. And then if you still want to go eat the box of cookies, do it. But you might feel by taking that pause, by just adding the practice of breath work without even intentionally taking something away, that you have more control and feel better about your situation. And just as a freebie, I said you might. What might really be good is think. Find a song that always makes you feel good, that motivates you, that puts you in a good mood, and do breath work to that. Whenever you're in that moment, just take that one song. Break breathing slowly and intentionally listening to something that makes you feel better, and then you might feel more in control.

A (39:15)

Or before you go eat the box of cookies, put that song on it's. Gotta be at least three minutes. And sing and dance for three minutes, whatever that makes you feel good. And at the end of the song, if you still want it, all right, well, then that's your choice. Understand, you know, consequences of it. It's so funny though, because I actually talked about that in our group Today, our big 80 day obsession group. I was talking about, you know, because it just started and people were like, I'm really good on the fitness. I'm solid on the fitness. I'm struggling with the nutrition a little bit. And I was like, okay, let me give some tips and tracking, you know, really? Because if you're not tracking, you don't really know if you're on point or not. Like, if you're gonna put in all the effort, it's not that long to track. But then I said, I was like, listen, we all. Emotionally, your girl does it too. But like I said, here's one thing that I have learned to do over the years and I gotta tell you, it 99 of the time, it works. And I make the choice not to go have the food, that's gonna not be on my plan. Not because I'm restricting myself, but because I give myself a split second to, to. To know that that's not going to help. And I was like, here's all I do. I'm emotional and I'm about to go. I'm a sweets girl, so it's usually something, piece of chocolate, something, whatever. I'm like, I could be literally walking to the pantry to get it and I make myself stop. And this is just something you have to practice. And I just say, is this going to change anything? I just ask myself that one question. Is it going to change anything? Is it going to change the hard day I had at work? No. The date that already happened, it's over. Is it going to change the fact that I got broken up with? Nope, already happened. Not gonna change it. Is it going to change, you know, if I'm missing whatever. No. And then I'm like, well then what the. Yeah, am I hungry? Because then I will ask myself that follow up question. Am I hungry? No. Then go sit your ass back down or go do breath work or go take a walk or go get in the tub or go do something. Skincare routine. Like go do anything else. Else that will actually make you feel a little better, like taking care of yourself. And then. But also if I'm like, no, it won't help, but I just want it, then I'll let myself have it. Yeah, but usually I'll have less. But I would rather choose the quote unquote junk food, the less than healthy food just because like, oh, you know, like, oh, Dom, you want to go get ice cream today? Let's go get ice cream. I'm just making the conscious choice. It's not because I'm emotional. It's because. Because I just want to go do something in bond with my son.

B (41:38)

Yeah.

A (41:38)

That's where I want to make that.

B (41:39)

Choice from a hundred percent.

A (41:42)

Not from the worst day ever. Need to unwind, need to numb. Let me have cocktails.

B (41:49)

Well, I was gonna say, I think it's the same with drinking. Like I don't ever want to drink because I'm in a really bad place and I need to drink to feel better.

A (41:58)

Right.

B (41:58)

And I know that's why a lot of people do. I've never really done that with alcohol, but food, I have done that with same. And really talk about the body and your emotions being connected. Really what my body is craving is. Are those good brain juices to release.

A (42:15)

Yeah. You're looking for like that little.

B (42:17)

So hit dopamine.

A (42:18)

Dopamine.

B (42:19)

And so getting that food does that. But it also for five seconds and then it makes me feel like. Exactly. And so, so what are other things you can do that release that. Because if you want. Like I, I also said to one of my clients, I was like, you know what, you can have sweets, but you should make a deal with yourself that you're not going to have them when you're hungry. Oh yeah, that should be a treat that you have. But not what you're eating to.

A (42:43)

To fuel your body. Yeah. When you're hungry, your body needs nutrients.

B (42:47)

Right.

A (42:47)

Not sugar.

B (42:48)

Exactly. So it's like if you, if you're going after something because of that need, then. And I really just thinking of what you can add to help. But I, I digress. I love the whole. The science and the more and more that we learn. Like 10 years ago I was doing that, the foot bath and the quantum physics machine and hearing about your brain scan, it's such a good reminder and it gives us tools.

A (43:14)

Yes.

B (43:14)

Even if you don't, even if someone doesn't have the accessibility or resources to have their brain scanned. Having this conversation realizing, okay, I might be feeling this way because it's something just the way I'm conditioned to feel.

A (43:29)

Right.

B (43:30)

So knowing that will it change? Can it change the way I respond in the way I act?

A (43:35)

Yeah, it's huge. Like I said. And then like for me, they Were like, oh, these areas that have a little less blood flow, like, great. Here's three supplements we want you to take for six months, and then we'll scan again. It should improve it. But the exercise, it was so funny, too, because she said, I. I'm like, on one test, it was like, no, you don't really. You're not prone to add. But then when they scan. So that was one of the tests, like, on the computer. But when they scanned my brain, there was a part that was lit up that was like, oh, you actually do have a little bit harder time. Like, I can either be really hyper focused, but then also, like, I could be triggered easily. And, like, if somebody tries to distract me when I'm focused, am I like, no?

B (44:15)

Yeah.

A (44:15)

But she was like, okay, things you can do to train this part of your brain. She's like, dance, Pilates, pickleball, hand eye coordination. Like, if you're following somebody. And I was like, well, I teach Pilates. I play pickleball with my son all the time, and I grew up dancing, so. And she's like, yeah. And that's. She goes, you feel better in movement, don't you? And I was like, yeah. She goes, yeah, you need to be busy all the time. Your brain calms down when you're busy, but when you're at rest, your brain never turns off. She's like, you. You have. You have a hard time with that, don't you? And I was like. And it's not like, oh, that's just an emotional thing. It's like, no, you're. That's how the blood is flowing.

B (44:54)

Yeah.

A (44:54)

I'm like, yeah. No, I think my best is why I love to think on walks.

B (44:58)

Yeah.

A (44:58)

Like, if I'm stuck in a problem or, like, trying to think of something, when I'm writing a workout program, I will go take a walk and I'll take the notes in my phone. Because if I'm in motion, I can focus. I mean, get to the solution.

B (45:10)

If I take a phone call that's not a video call, I am pacing.

A (45:14)

That pool has miles around it.

B (45:17)

Yeah. It's like, I'm walking. I'm getting things done. Literally a circle in my living room.

A (45:23)

Laundry while I'm on the phone with you, like, it's done. Yeah.

B (45:27)

Yeah. It's really interesting.

A (45:29)

It's fascinating.

B (45:30)

I think movement is something. I think the reason a lot of people think they don't like movement is because the only movement they do is, like, hard. Well. Or challenging. Taxing. Like, getting up, going to Work, running the kids, cleaning the house. And so when you sit down, that's your reward. But when you find it doesn't to even have. Have to be a, quote, workout when you get started. But when you find an action and you start to tap into that feel good kind of movement.

A (45:56)

Yeah.

B (45:57)

You're like, this is like a superpower. I didn't even know.

A (46:00)

Yeah.

B (46:01)

So I totally. I think it's. But I. But I still. Also, for transparency, I am the one sitting on the couch. And I was like, you want to take a walk?

A (46:09)

I'm like, just. And your boyfriend is next level. Okay. I'm still swallowing my last bite of food. And Nell's like, I want to walk. I'm like, hold on. Yeah, like, let me finish.

B (46:20)

Yes. Like, babe, let's do some recovery. I'm like, while we're watching this movie.

A (46:25)

I'm trying to follow the plot.

B (46:26)

I'm like, I'll cheer you on. But.

A (46:29)

But it is like, at the Theran. You're like, I can't hear.

B (46:33)

Right, right.

A (46:35)

Oh, I love him so much.

B (46:37)

Me too. I need someone like him.

A (46:40)

It's good. It balances. Balances you out. I just think. I mean, God, what if you had to have hand somebody your brain scan before you started dating them and be like, red flag.

B (46:49)

That is. That's an idea.

A (46:50)

So. Well, here's the funny thing. The whole reason I. So I went to amen clinics. Dr. Amen. He's on social media. You can find him. He's awesome. When I was getting my stem cells, I read his wife's book, and it's just about her life growing up and really finding her career, meeting him, all these things. And she's talking about her brain health and how she had, at one point, I think, got put on, like, Prozac or something and ended up making, like, kind of dangerous decisions because it actually, like, turned off a part of her brain, like, that was already sluggish. So, like, things that should have been cautioned, like, don't go to another country with a guy you just met yesterday. Like, she was doing the things.

B (47:32)

Yeah. Because.

A (47:32)

Because that part of her. The Prozac, was making her brain even more sleepy. And she talks about when she met her now husband, Dr. Eamon, like, brain doctor. He's a psychiatrist, but he's studied brains, like, since the 70s. And, like, I think maybe a few weeks into dating or something, he asked her if he could scan her brain. And, you know, like, she let him, obviously. And then he explained to her, like, oh, I see this and this and blah blah, and, and then talks about the fact that like, like when their daughters got engaged, like when they would start dating somebody within weeks, he would want to scan the guy's brain.

B (48:08)

Wow.

A (48:09)

Like, he's not worried about, like looking up your blah, blah history. He wants to know what your brain is doing.

B (48:13)

Yeah.

A (48:14)

And I was like, that's fascinating.

B (48:16)

It just gives you and people around you information on like, what you're dealing with.

A (48:23)

Yeah.

B (48:23)

Like, not like in a good way. There's so many, many, so many people live their life wishing that they could be like, so and so, but they're setting themselves up for failure because you just have a different makeup in your brain.

A (48:40)

I feel that way about all of it. Like all the genetic testing I've had and I, I understand that I am in a position where I can afford these things. And that's why I'm saying it's frustrating that it is not available to everybody knowing my genetic predispositions, like, like knowing my gene mutations. One of the, actually one of the biggest reasons I wanted my brain scanned was because I have a double mutation, meaning I got a mutated gene from my mom and my dad, which is like the double whammy. That is not what you want. I got it for Alzheimer's and dementia. Oh, girl, that is scary. That is so scary to me. Yeah, like, so scary. So obviously taking care of my brain health and like, and she said, she was like, okay when she was pointing out, she's like this part of your brain, brain. She's like, you have really good blood flow and that's like your memory and stuff. And she's like, so I'm really happy to see that because we don't have to worry. No, there's no sign that like, you're struggling to access your memories, which would be like an initial dementia, Alzheimer's thing. That to me is a huge deal. But also like knowing that I have that genetic mutation, obviously I want to take better care of my, like, anti inflammatory, move my body, eat healthy, don't drink all the things, things so that I'm not exasperating that condition. I know that I have a genetic mutation that makes me prone to diabetes. Like, I, I can't. Like, some people can eat the sugar and they like my nephew, my nephew's got a six pack. This kid eats terrible. I love you, Kate, but Jesus, when he eats, I'm like, oh, you're literally dying inside right now. I mean, he's 20, but I, if I did that, like first of All I would gain five pounds just watching him eat like that. But also, I have that predisposition to diabetes. That's dangerous. Like, I don't want to deal with that. So I'm going to be careful about my sugar consumption.

B (50:26)

Yeah.

A (50:26)

Whereas some people will look at it and judge. Oh, you're so restrictive on yourself. I'm just trying not to have diabetes.

B (50:31)

Right.

A (50:31)

Like, yeah. But if you knew that, you would make different choices. So I did not expect our conversation to end up here today.

B (50:38)

I know, but I'm loving.

A (50:38)

But I love it.

B (50:39)

And I don't think you're restrictive on your. Yourself.

A (50:41)

No, I'm not at all.

B (50:42)

I will say, like, I know you. I've. I've known you very well for. I mean, you live years. Exactly. And you enjoy the, like, within reason. Everyone has bad days and good days, but you're like, the way you eat and your boundaries around alcohol aren't like, I really want this. You're connected to what feels good to you. To what feels good to your body. I was thinking about that because I did drink more than usual while I was in Ohio. And I also felt this little undertone of anxiety the whole time. And I was like, why am I feeling this? And after the trip, I was like, obviously, that's why, you know, like, under rested, like, not getting to sleep. Also, when you drink, your body's not resting when you sleep.

A (51:31)

No.

B (51:31)

Like, if you. My wearable ring is. Is a dupe. It's not an aura ring. Nell has the aura ring, and it gives him so much information. And if we have a night, go out, have drinks, his, like, recovery is not so bad. Yeah.

A (51:49)

By the way, I'm always with my aura ring. I'm always like, shut up. Like, I'm like, what do you know? But then I'm like, a lot girl.

B (51:56)

I'd be like, it's like, oh, you're resting my ring off. No, seriously, like a cheater.

A (52:04)

Like, I hate when I open it. And it was like, oh, your heart rate took longer to go down. Did you eat late? I'm like, screw you, I was hungry.

B (52:13)

I'm like, well, technically, it was early because it was after midnight. Yeah.

A (52:17)

Yeah. Late to find a technicality. Yeah. But it is, like, it's fascinating that it can see those things.

B (52:25)

Yeah.

A (52:25)

And that you. But yeah, like you said, so many people will have alcohol or wine. Especially wine. Right. Because they're like, oh, I need to sleep tonight. You're not. You're not really resting, like, kind of. You feel like it knocked you out. But then you wake up and you're like, yeah, you need some toothpicks. Hold those eyes open.

B (52:44)

It's like, oh my. Oh, God.

A (52:47)

Can we go back to bed and do take two? We'll do this tomorrow.

B (52:51)

Honestly, there was one morning that I was in Ohio, I was like, they're trying to get you down. Don't let them bring you back. Don't let them take you back to where you used to be. But it was really fun.

A (53:05)

That's awesome. Okay, so September, we've got my birthday coming up. We're gonna figure it out. Oh, you made a joke. But I know you and I have talked about this, so I want to pose it to all of our people. Do they want like, we've talked about you and I now doing live events of some sort?

B (53:27)

Oh, yeah.

A (53:29)

What do you think? You guys, would you want a live event for me and D? And when I say live event, I mean like a one day thing. Like maybe we would travel a little bit and do like a workout and maybe we would do a live recording of a podcast and Q&As, photos. That's one option. But we've also talked about. I have my house in Florida, my second house. It's been on the market for a minute. It has not sold yet, but we've talked about. Because it's a big house, possibly doing like a three day retreat there. Would you want to retreat with me and D? And that would be like more like fun. We'd all be in the house together. We'll cook together, we'll do food. We would do fun things. Obviously the one day event, that ticket price would be much more affordable than a. Or a different price point. I don't want to say affordable. It's not like we're gonna. But like different than retreat. Yeah. So email us everything's perfect podcast at gmail dot com. Let us know one. The other. Both.

B (54:31)

That's right.

A (54:32)

Where. What would you like those events to include? Because we are.

B (54:37)

We can't wait to meet y'. All.

A (54:38)

Really? Yeah, really. Like, we're. You guys are our besties here. But we would love to meet y' all in person. So let us know.

B (54:45)

Yes.

A (54:46)

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B (54:56)

Be spooky.

A (54:57)

It will never not be spooky. Oh, one other thing before we wrap this up. I know it's September and so Halloween's a ways away, but in October, I feel like you and I gotta do some costumes. We can't do like one costume. We're gonna need to do different Halloween costumes.

B (55:11)

Okay.

A (55:11)

For October.

B (55:12)

I mean the room is going to be set up for it automatically every time we walk in. If you guys, I don't know if we've talked about this recording but every time we come in here, I walked in here just with my arm going up and down trying to get the spider webs because this place, we don't.

A (55:27)

Know why we're in here every week. The air conditioning is on, the doors are closed. But when we say spider webs we mean like we're walking through it. Yeah, it's crazy. So yeah, we're set up for Halloween already. We're gonna need to restock some snacks. Yeah, okay. Anyway, anyway, live event retreats, Halloween costume ideas. Throw those at us too and we will see you guys next week.

B (55:49)

See ya.