Everything’s Perfect…Except Grown-Up Halloween 🎃

Summary

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Everything’s Perfect…Except Grown-Up Halloween 🎃

Podcast: Everything’s Perfect
Hosts: Autumn Calabrese & Donald Stamper
Release Date: October 28, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode is a playful, unfiltered deep dive into the oddities and realities of celebrating Halloween as an adult. Autumn and Donald (in full, humorous costume) openly discuss the weird social pressures around grown-up Halloween, why some of the magic fades, and what aspects they still love—or love to hate. Through candid stories, hot cultural takes, and plenty of nostalgia (and shade at pumpkin spice!), this episode captures the real talk and laughter that define Everything’s Perfect.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Costume Chaos and Confessions

• Both hosts show up in 80s-inspired workout costumes—Donald as Richard Simmons and Autumn as Jane Fonda—leading to a running bit about costume let-downs and hair envy.
  • “I don’t think this hair is doing Jane justice. The image on the package was very different.” – Autumn (01:41)
  • Donald admits: “If I could have curly hair, this would be my hairstyle.” (01:50)

2. Grown-Ups and Halloween: Losing the Spark

• Both hosts openly admit they're not huge fans of adult Halloween, feeling pressure to participate but mostly wanting to “phone it in.”
• A queer perspective: Donald notes Halloween is especially high-stakes for gay men in LA, where people start preparing all summer.
  • “No Halloween for the gays. That is your night...It’s your month.” – Autumn (03:00)
  • “It’s like all I see now are characters walking around already weeks before Halloween. People in just next to nothing.” – Donald (03:09)

3. Sexy Costumes & Social Commentary

• The growing trend of risqué costumes as a sort of “free pass” from public decency is discussed, with Donald sharing a hilarious pirate-turned-“stripper” story. (03:48)
  • “I’m not a stripper, I’m just a pirate. I’m not taking my clothes off!” – Donald

4. Ages & Acceptable Halloween Behavior

• Trick-or-treating cut-off: Both are firm that teens are too old (“If you can drive, you shouldn’t trick or treat,” Donald, 30:26).
• College-age: Costumes get “sluttier” and then after college, it’s mostly parties with semi-effort costumes.

5. Halloween Overload: Extended ‘Holiday’ Season & Sweet Season

• They lament Halloween’s creep into August, with early store displays and candy.
  • “Halloween is one freakin’ day... Why is candy out in August?” – Autumn (06:58)
• Both touch on the “holiday season” as an excuse to overindulge—on both candy and alcohol—and note how this leaks into overall wellness.
  • Autumn: “If you’re only celebrating on those days... you’re not going to gain ten pounds.” (09:48)
  • Donald: “Some adults are fiend for it just as much as kids.” (09:56)

6. Nostalgia & Halloween’s Best Bits

• Both hosts still love Halloween movies (especially “Hocus Pocus”), enjoying kid costumes, and the general seasonal vibe.
  • “The biggest thing I think is the movies. I love scary, even if they’re not really—like Hocus Pocus...” – Donald (13:13)

7. Candy Corn: Love It or Hate It?

• Full-on “team gross”: both hosts hate candy corn and share quirky ways they might eat it—if forced.
  • “It grosses me out… my OCD kicks in and I feel like I have to eat each color by itself.” – Donald (15:31)
  • “I question those people’s judgment and taste.” – Donald (16:11)
• Favorite candies: peanut M&Ms, Almond Snickers, Butterfinger (Donald); Butterfinger, peanut butter cups, Almond Joy (Autumn).

8. Childhood & Themed Trauma: Halloween in Extreme Religion

• Donald shares a wild story of being forbidden from trick-or-treating due to religious beliefs, and participating in a "Reaper’s House"—an evangelical haunted-house meant to scare kids into faith, complete with live rats, simulated domestic abuse and even a mock school shooting.
  • “We did something called... Reaper’s House...when I tell you we should have had lawsuits...” – Donald (18:47)
  • Autumn: “That is the most messed up—first of all, just leave it as a horror house.” (22:01)
• Both gasp at the lack of emotional/mental safeguards for kids at those events.

9. Costume Stories: From Madonna to Mummies

• Autumn’s favorite childhood costume: Madonna, age 8. (24:05)
• Both share tales of classic DIY costumes, mummies made of toilet paper, and the pitfalls of over-committing (like Donald wearing non-prescription whiteout contacts and messing up restaurant orders).

10. Costume Etiquette and Couples/Groups vs. ‘Phoning it in’

• Couples/group costumes can be fun—but not mandatory.
  • Autumn: “Sometimes your costume doesn’t make sense unless you have the other person.” (31:09)
• “Phoning it in”—funny and low-effort costumes get a pass if they're creative.
  • “Some guy wore a shirt, it was like Tinder...I think that's fine.” – Donald (32:13)
• Hilarious bad ideas: friends dressed as tampons, cereal mascots (32:25, 33:12).

11. Pumpkin Spice: Overrated or Essential?

• Whole segment on “Pumpkin Spice Fatigue”; both agree it’s mostly over, except rare exceptions.
  • “I’m so over it. Except for, I saw a mix for a pumpkin spice espresso martini…” – Donald (36:42)
• Connect discussion to “sugar season”—too much focus on sweets disguised as seasonal.

12. Etiquette Rapid Fire: “Trick or Treat” Game

• Lightning round on classic Halloween things (Trick/treat = good/bad):
  • Haunted houses: Donald “treat,” Autumn “trick” (41:17)
  • Bobbing for apples: Both “trick,” due to hygiene (41:31)
  • Horror movies: Donald “treat,” Autumn “trick” (42:01)
  • Sexy costumes: “Depends who’s wearing it” (42:14)
  • Pumpkin carving: Both lean “trick”—too much mess for low payout (43:17)
  • Decorating for Halloween before October: Both “trick” (48:54)

13. Holiday Season Creep: Decorations Coming Too Early

• Both express annoyance at Christmas displays going up pre-Halloween; recall childhood when the switch came right after Thanksgiving (49:38).
• Autumn admits to early Christmas decorating, but says it made her tired of the holiday by Christmas day.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Grown-Up Costumes & Hair
  “I think I’m gonna rock this all year long... If I could have curly hair, this would be my hairstyle.” – Donald (01:50)

• On Halloween Pressures in the Gay Community
  “Gays work out in summer to get ready for Halloween.” – Donald (03:10)

• On Candy Season
  “Halloween is one freakin’ day... it’s become a Hallmark holiday, just sell the candy, sell the costumes, make the money.” – Autumn (07:00)

• On Childhood Costumes & Parental Evasion
  “When I was like 10, I wasn’t allowed to trick or treat anymore because it was the devil’s holiday. Soon after, every holiday was the devil’s holiday.” – Donald (18:46)

• On Pumpkin Spice
  “I’m so over it. Except for, I saw a mix for a pumpkin spice espresso martini.” – Donald (36:42) “You don’t like the fake stuff.” – Autumn (38:07)

• On Over-Decorating
  “If you’re decorating seasonally so early, you must not really like your house…” – Donald (51:08)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening Costume Fun – 01:28–02:12
• “Too Old For Halloween?” Debate – 02:28–05:27
• Candy Season & Overindulgence – 06:44–10:06
• Halloween Movies & Traditions – 12:31–14:24
• Candy Corn Wars & Favorite Candies – 15:31–17:16
• Donald’s Evangelical House of Horror Story – 18:47–23:32
• Childhood Costumes & DIY Costuming – 24:04–26:18
• Debate: Adult Costume Etiquette – 30:22–32:25
• Pumpkin Spice Dissection – 36:00–39:02
• Trick or Treat Lightning Round – 40:36–44:40
• Christmas Creep & Holiday Overlap – 48:54–50:52
• Closing / Where to Watch & Connect – 52:10

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Tone & Atmosphere

Friendly, goofy, nostalgic, with a streak of real talk and honesty—even as they poke fun at themselves and each other. The podcast is packed with playful banter, gentle roasting of holiday traditions, and a spirit of embracing imperfection.

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Final Thoughts

This episode of Everything’s Perfect is a comically sharp, yet warmly nostalgic look at why Halloween just isn’t the same once you’re old enough to buy your own candy. Donald and Autumn’s irreverent, candid style makes even the most “basic” Halloween debates engaging—and will make any listener feel better about not having it all figured out when it comes to grown-up holidays.

If you want real talk, laughs, and a little encouragement to phone in your next costume, this is your Halloween listen.

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Find pics of their costumes and send your own at Everything's Perfect Official on Instagram, or email everything's perfect podcastmail.com
Next week: More holidays—with a dash of conspiracy theories and AI!

Transcript

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[Jay]

What's up, Richard?

[Richard]

Hey, Jay.

[Jay]

Hey.

[Richard]

I feel so naked. I'm naked and afraid like the TV show.

[Jay]

Don't worry, you got enough hair on your head. These are.

[Richard]

Yes.

[Jay]

Happy Halloween.

[Richard]

No, I'm not a pumpkin. I'm Richard Simmons, baby.

[Jay]

Yes. I'm Jane Fonda.

[Richard]

The iconic Jane.

[Jay]

I don't think this hair is doing Jane justice. The image on the COVID of the package was very different than when I opened this sucker up and I was like, we're in.

[Richard]

It is what it is. I think I'm gonna rock this all year long. This way. I told you, if I could have curly hair, this would be my hairstyle.

[Jay]

No, you don't look like Justin Timberlake. You look like Weird Al.

[Richard]

Justin Guarini. He was from. He was a runner up. Oh, that's who I am. I'm just kidding.

[Jay]

Changing my costume immediately. Oh, well, then I'm Paula.

[Richard]

God, I wish I would have put some cellulite cream on his legs. Maybe shaved them. Anyway, anywho, I hate Halloween. I mean, happy Halloween.

[Jay]

Hate Halloween. Too old for this.

[Richard]

Boo. For real.

[Jay]

Like, seriously. Let's talk about it. Halloween is here. We are grown folk.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

At what age do you start to get to be too old for Halloween costumes?

[Richard]

I don't know, but I'm there. I've hit it. And people, like, go so in on their costumes. They go hard like that. And so the pressure is so extra, especially for me as a gay man. It really is. Next level.

[Jay]

Yeah. No Halloween for the gays. That is your night.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

That's your week.

[Richard]

Exactly. It's your month.

[Jay]

Literally, actually.

[Richard]

Literally. Like, the reason people do you Know how people, like, work out in the beginning of the year in early spring to get ready for summer? No. Well, gays work out in the summer to get ready for Halloween. That's when it's ready. And when I tell you I live in Hollywood and there's a lot of gays in my apartment complex. It's like all I see now are characters walking around already weeks before Halloween. People in just next to nothing. Also forget. Forget public decency. Halloween, it doesn't count.

[Jay]

Wait, their costume. That. So that's. When did Halloween just become the excuse to be naked?

[Richard]

Exactly.

[Jay]

Or did just look like you're on a stripper pole?

[Richard]

Yeah. Oh, my God. One time when I was. I was like 20, working at a restaurant in my hometown and we had to dress up for Halloween and I dressed up as a pirate. And anyways, I walked up to a table that was seated in a private room because it was someone's birthday, and the lady was like, oh, my God, I can't believe you ordered a stripper because of my outfit. I was like, I'm not a stripper, I'm just a pirate. I'm not taking my clothes off. But yeah, so it does give.

[Jay]

Costume were you in?

[Richard]

You know, if you're unbutton a few buttons, the jewelry, I don't know. It did it for.

[Jay]

She was right.

[Richard]

Like, I know you're kink lady.

[Jay]

Yeah. She was real disappointed. She thought she was about to get a lap dance.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

That's funny. Okay. I feel like, though, when it comes to, like, how old is too old for a Halloween costume? There's lines like, I feel like after the age of maybe 12 or 13, first of all, probably done trick or treating, like, yeah, it pisses me off when like 17 year olds are coming up to my door for candy.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I'm like, I feel that way. And they're like in a jersey or something. And I'm like, no, man, you didn't even put effort into the costume. And I gotta give you candy.

[Richard]

Yeah, go get a job.

[Jay]

Yeah, go buy a candy.

[Richard]

Come on. Exactly.

[Jay]

But then it's like, okay, then you get to like your college age. And yeah, you're definitely going out doing the costume thing, but usually it's just for girls. It's. How slutty can you be?

[Richard]

It really is. It really is.

[Jay]

And then after college, though, I feel like unless there's like a real Halloween party you're going to where like everybody has to dress up.

[Richard]

That's what I think. I feel like if you're not going to a party or hosting a podcast. Because honestly, this. This year would have slipped. Last year I didn't have a costume. I would have slid right under the radar. Sure. I usually have a handful of costumes on. On hand that I just rotate. Like a Where's Waldo costume. A Superman one's so easy because you just put a Superman T shirt under. Like you dress as Clark Kent.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Richard]

But you just have like the tie and shirt undone. There's a little Superman. I like to phone it in. I really don't go all in.

[Jay]

I am not. Okay. So the question becomes is so many people are like Halloween people like yard decorations.

[Richard]

No, I don't. I have fun looking at them though.

[Jay]

Yeah. I just.

[Richard]

You have a neighbor who I'm like, this is. This is your moment to shine, isn't it, baby?

[Jay]

Multiple neighbors that just go off like their front yard looks like it's straight out of a horror scene. And I'm like, you concern me.

[Richard]

There's l. There's at least 50 pumpkins in your like two doors down in their front yard.

[Jay]

Yeah, I got 100 pumpkins.

[Richard]

Yeah, it looks good. But I don't because like you put all that work in and it's over so fast. And I don't like the cleanup and the storage and all the things. I'm like, let's just, you know.

[Jay]

Well, the question is, is it over so fast? Because now Halloween isn't a day. Yeah, it's like two months. I told you was the end of August when I first started seeing Halloween candy in the stores. Yeah, you're doing the most.

[Richard]

Yeah, you're doing the most.

[Jay]

Like Halloween is one freakin day and it's like whatever, you know, it's like, it's like Valentine's Day, like a Hallmark holiday basically. Like sell the candy, sell the costumes, make the money. But like, why is candy out in August?

[Richard]

The candy is an interesting thing. And like Halloween themed candy is so early. Like having spiders and shit on it.

[Jay]

Like pounds of the bags. Right. Yeah.

[Richard]

I don't know. I guess I get spooky season for movies and Halloween and like activities.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Richard]

But I don't know. The Halloween candy coming out that early. It's like, it's pretty wild. Maybe people stock up to pass it out and then they eat it. That's what that's candy maker wants you.

[Jay]

This is what I always talk about in my like workout videos and stuff where I'm like, guys, you should not from Halloween to New Year's because people are like, oh, you preach don't like, don't enjoy. And I'm like, no, no, you can enjoy. But you've got Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Year's Eve, New Year's Day. You get six actual holidays. And yes, if somebody is Jewish, you have Hanukkah in there, which is eight days. Okay, fine, so I'm gonna take off. So we'll go four, eight. So you get 12 days total. You should not throw yourself off if you're only, if you're only celebrating on those days. Yeah, but that's not what happens. People are buying the Halloween candy in August to quote unquote, decorate their house, put it in a jar, blah, blah. But then they, every time they walk by, they grab, they grab a bite sized snickers and it's just a bite sized Snickers. Yeah, but how many times do you do that?

[Richard]

Right? I mean it really just like. And why are you doing it? At some point it's sort of like you need a quint, you know?

[Astro]

Yeah.

[Jay]

It's like your past.

[Richard]

Yeah. It's like if someone had like at a certain time of year drank alcohol all day because it was there, people would say, oh, that's not good to do. But people don't really have that same idea about the candy. Right. So it is interesting. Like I, I gotta say I'm not, thankfully, I'm not a big candy person so it's easy for me to just not get caught up in it. But it is. Some adults are fiend for it just as much as like.

[Jay]

And then, yeah, everybody brings it to work and then it's in the office. So it's just this big excuse. But it's a three month. Where in those three months there's six actual holidays. And if you go crazy on those six actual holidays, you still shouldn't have thrown off an entire quarter of the year.

[Richard]

Right. I mean the math, if you just think of the math, like basic math, if you just look at like the calories of it all, which I know those don't tell the whole story, but if you really just let loose on those days, you're not going to, you, you're not going to gain 10 pounds right. In that in the holiday season.

[Jay]

Because there's a big gap between them.

[Richard]

Exactly. And if you have your normal healthy life and you know, in between could balance out. Yeah, I don't, I think, you know, probably a big part of it.

[Jay]

What are you having playing with that curly hair right now? Because you have not stopped.

[Richard]

I'm like, I'm Gonna dress up like Shirley Temple every. Was that her name? The curly haired girl.

[Jay]

He has got a twist and a twirl in it.

[Richard]

I'm sorry, I can't.

[Jay]

No, do. Do you. You need long hair?

[Richard]

I mean, I usually. I usually am one of those people who send my hair back anyways. Even like Jack.

[Jay]

Yeah.

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[Richard]

So I just feel powerful. I always wanted curly hair.

[Jay]

Really?

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Your hair is so straight.

[Richard]

It's straight. It's. It's the only straight thing about.

[Jay]

I was like, say, my God, for being twisted.

[Richard]

Exactly. The one thing that I would really love to be super curly.

[Jay]

We could permit.

[Richard]

I thought about growing out.

[Jay]

Really? Before?

[Richard]

Yes. But I was like, oh, Lord, that's a commitment.

[Jay]

We were talking about all of the spacing out of, like, enjoying.

[Richard]

Yeah. Like, I think. I think the big thing is also alcohol. Because in our world, when you go to a party, like in our. In. In modern day society, everyone sees that as an opportunity to drink a lot more than they normally would. And I think that's also a big reason that people derail because they start drinking a lot more in every weekend in the holiday season because there's multiple parties and things and then on top of the alcohol.

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[Richard]

That when.

[Jay]

Bad food choices.

[Richard]

Exactly. Because, girl, I was a little tipsy the other day and ordered a party pack from Taco Bell. I said, I don't know, maybe it's a diuretic. It's gonna help get it out of my system.

[Jay]

I don't think it's a diuretic, but it's a dia.

[Astro]

Something.

[Richard]

Yeah, sure did. Anyway.

[Jay]

Okay, so is there anything about Halloween that you like?

[Richard]

Yeah, I actually do love the movies.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Richard]

I love like Halloween ads on tv. Playful, not even serious. Like just spooky season horror nights. And I do think it's fun seeing people's costumes as much as I don't like preparing, going all in, and also living like we talked about. Like, because it's something we can share. Like, girls feel like it's just their time they have to dress as as little as possible. And that's sort of what the gays do.

[Jay]

Right.

[Richard]

Also. And that's just never been my style. I'm a modest gay. Modest is hottest. You know what I mean? So. So here I am. Legs out. Hopefully that's all. Yeah, hopefully that's all.

[Jay]

I was like, I said with that costume, you look like you'd be working at Hooters.

[Richard]

Yeah. I was like, honestly, if they would, that would be funny. But I love that. And so I. I like it. And I also like that it's the start of holiday season. Because the holidays are fun. Yeah. If you can keep a healthy headspace around them, which is hard to do sometimes. But the biggest thing I think is the movies. I love scary, even if they're not really like Hocus Pocus and movies like, I love that. That kind of. Yeah.

[Jay]

Hocus Pocus is still a go to.

[Richard]

Yeah. We watched Hocus Pocus 2 last night.

[Jay]

Oh, yeah.

[Richard]

And did you. Have you watched it?

[Jay]

I want to say I have, but now I can't remember.

[Richard]

So I. I think this might not be a popular opinion. First of all, I haven't sat down and watched it. Watched it. But I was just so disappointed in. It's been so many years. I was like, I feel like the graphics in the original one, it felt like more satire than it did like an actual follow up. Because the first Hocus Pocus, I was like, oh, my God, this is okay.

[Jay]

Then maybe I haven't seen it. Yeah, I can't remember.

[Richard]

You should watch it. We can follow up. We have a few days before Halloween.

[Jay]

Okay, I'll get on that.

[Richard]

What is your thing, if any, that you like about Halloween?

[Jay]

I liked when I was a little kid, like, because obviously growing up in Ohio, like, we did get all dressed up for Halloween. Like, I loved picking the costume and going out and trick or treating. And even now I love seeing all the like little kid trick or treaters because it's just fun for them. For a minute there when Dom was trick or treating, I really loved sealing his Halloween candy. I was like, you better bring some Reese's peanut butter cups, some Almond Joys home and oh, a Butterfinger and a Twix.

[Richard]

I loved those. I don't even know what brand they are because they were wrapped in like this wax paper that was like orange. Remember? It's like peanut butter chewy thing. Yeah. Like, this is the prime candy to put needles in because it's unmarked. It's.

[Jay]

It was like orange and black wrappers.

[Richard]

But it was so yummy. I loved getting that shit.

[Jay]

That was a good one.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Okay, wait. So I do love seeing the kids in the costumes. And I loved trick or treating. I have two things. Do you have a favorite Halloween candy? Because we got to talk about candy corn. Love it. Or disgusting.

[Richard]

I cannot. It grosses me out.

[Jay]

It's so. What is that?

[Richard]

I know people like it. Sometimes if I'm making really poor decisions, I might grab one to be like, maybe I'll like it this time. And I don't like it. And then my OCD kicks in and I feel like I have to eat each color by itself. Like, just bite the orange, then just bite the white or yellow or whatever. But I'm not a fan. It's disgusting. Anyway.

[Jay]

About you and how you eat candy corn. Like. What?

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

No, not a fan of candy corn. But some people just think it's like they. Yes. Cat me out. I'm like, guys, this is gross.

[Richard]

I question those people's judgment and taste. Yeah, Peanut M and M's. Those are my go to little ones. Like little. Like, I love the crunch and the chocolate. I like everything with nuts in it. I'm not even trying to be funny. I really do. Like a, you know, almond Snickers or something. Or like that payday. Those are the.

[Jay]

Oh, my God. Just basically nuts and caramel I loved.

[Richard]

I love those.

[Jay]

I used. Well, I can't really eat nuts because they hurt my stomach, but that's why I said peanut butter cups. Almond Joys, Snickers. But I love me a Butterfinger.

[Richard]

Oh my God, I love Butterfinger.

[Jay]

Butterfingers and a Twig.

[Richard]

Oh, good. You know what? I love that. I don't know if kids these days really know about, but I think they're still around. Are Chico sticks. Have you. Do you remember that? Because it kind of tasted like a Butterfinger to me. But it wasn't dairy because when I was little, I couldn't have all the candy bars.

[Jay]

This wig sucks.

[Richard]

I just feel like Beyonce patting. I'm like, this head itches. So. Huh.

[Jay]

No, go ahead.

[Richard]

So, yeah, I. The thing is, I'm not a sweets guy, but candy corn can go itself. Yes.

[Jay]

And you like it or.

[Richard]

I hate candy corn.

[Jay]

Really?

[Richard]

Candy corn is.

[Jay]

Oh, candy corn candy. I don't know why.

[Richard]

I was just thinking like creamed corn.

[Jay]

No, I was thinking caramel corn.

[Richard]

Popcorn.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Richard]

Like, I love that.

[Jay]

Yeah. Candy corn sucks. Took Dom to Target yesterday. He's like, mom, I'm so hungry. Like, we were running errands and we'd done a hard workout, and I was like, okay. It was, like, a big target. So we go down, like, the produce aisle, and he grabbed, like, some lunch meat and cheese. And then we turned the corner, and there's, like, this huge stand that has, like, caramel apple corn on it. And he's like, say less. Didn't you just say, literally, like, one aisle earlier? He had just said, like, I'm being really good. I'm gonna try not to, like, overdo it on my carbs and stuff, Which, I mean. Yes, he eats carbs. Dom's not.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Restricting. But he was trying to be good about, like, unhealthy carbs. He grabbed that bag of caramel corn so fast.

[Richard]

Oh, my God.

[Jay]

The first thing he opened in the car, I was like, can you eat the lunch meat first?

[Richard]

Yeah. I love that. When we were kids, my. We would get cracker Jacks all the time, and you got a little, like, sticker in it. It was awesome. Yeah, I loved it. Yeah.

[Jay]

But okay. Halloween costume. Well, first of all, because you grew.

[Richard]

Up, I was gonna say, I have some stories.

[Jay]

So, like, did you wear Halloween costumes? Did you get to trick or treat?

[Richard]

You want to hear a few crazy story.

[Jay]

Always.

[Richard]

So when I was really little, I was just. To answer that question, I trick or treated. But then when I was, like, 10, which is prime trick or treating age, I wasn't allowed to trick or treat anymore because it was the devil's holiday. Soon after that, the. Every holiday was the devil's holiday. So I was like, well, what. What do I get to celebrate mom and dad?

[Jay]

Yeah. Do I get Christmas present? Because that's about Jesus. I think they were just looking for a way out. Yeah.

[Richard]

I don't blame them.

[Jay]

They're like, we ain't spending on you three.

[Richard]

I then went into a youth group at my church, and we did something called. It was like a haunted house to lead people to Jesus. And when I tell you it was the most. It was called. We did it two years in a row, and it was called Reaper's house. Like, the grim Reaper. And people lined up around the block to go in this thing. Okay. Because they just thought it was a haunted house. We didn't say it was actually, like, with the message to lead people to Jesus. And when I tell you there should be lawsuits about.

[Jay]

We.

[Richard]

We. We constructed. The entrance was this wooden tunnel that you had to crawl through, and the ground of it was plexiglass. And we put live rats in the plexiglass, so people had to crawl through to enter hands and knees with rats crawling around them in the plexiglass. And this is the first year. And then once they enter, they're in hell and they, like, see, like, really scary things and lie to people jumping out and people just screaming and all this stuff. Oh, and by the way, coming. It should have talked about trigger warnings coming into the place. Autumn, they had the city, like, construct an accident. There was a car on its side and this cop car who was, like, decided to be in it with us, came racing up and a mom jumped out and was screaming and came up to her son who, like, had passed in a car accident. That's what people see while they're waiting in line. Then they crawl into hell. Okay. Then they come up and also, this was a serial killer's wet dream because the place was covered in, like, black trash bag material, floor to ceiling. So then they go through all these real life experiences. And I was the domestic abused child, like, teenager. So I was in there. Yeah, I know. I've never told you. It was so crazy. So in my scene, I had a mom and a dad and a sister. And, like, we were just doing our thing, getting ready for dinner, working on homework, and the dad came home and the mom was like, your dad's coming home. Remember? You don't want to make him mad. And then all of a sudden, it was this thing, and he hit me, and I slammed up against the wall and I fell down. And the mom came over, he was like, no, not again. And people are, like, crying, and we traumatize them. There's. Then we take them into a hospital with someone dying, like, all these cases. And then at the end, they enter this really pretty place with all this pretty fabric. And my youth pastor at the time was like, if you don't want to experience all these things, come to Jesus. That's how I spent Halloween as a teenager.

[Jay]

That is the most messed up.

[Richard]

Isn't it wild?

[Jay]

First of all, just leave it as a horror house and that. But the fact that at the very end, you get to the pretty place and it's like, that's life. Or, come to Jesus.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

It's like, well, if I come to Jesus, am I gonna stop getting beat? Because let me tell you what, I went to church, I still got beat.

[Richard]

I'm sorry to laugh, but facts are facts, honey. I know.

[Jay]

I really was not saving me right then.

[Richard]

When you would. People would have to, like, turn away and not look. Look at some of the things because.

[Jay]

Because they were actually experiencing them in.

[Richard]

Real Life even simulated a school shooting. Talk about trigger warning at that time. There weren't.

[Jay]

There weren't. Yeah.

[Richard]

But it was after Columbine and several others had happened. And so you walk in and it's a classroom. Okay, class. And then they have some shooter come in and it's like, I can't believe we were just willy nilly out here. No mental health professionals on us, on standby, no one helping these people. That we were literally like they were going shock.

[Jay]

Oh my gosh.

[Richard]

And they did it two years in a row and changed all the scenes slightly. But I was the domestic abuse. I really sold that role because I got cast again by year two. I didn't even need to audition, baby. They were like, this knows how to take a punch. Anyway, so I'm sorry, that was a big story about a Halloween tradition that I forgot actually, because I have a friend in town right now. She was a part of that. And we were just reminiscing like, oh my God, I can't believe we did that.

[Jay]

I want to know what adult approved proved this.

[Richard]

So many adults. That's what happens when you grow up in a little bit of a little cold situation.

[Jay]

They're like, yeah, let's really like rock their world.

[Richard]

Exactly.

[Jay]

Wow. Well, my favorite Halloween costume as a kid was when I got to dress up as Madonna. Are you trying to make sure your pubes are away?

[Richard]

Yeah, I'm just looking. This isn't Build a Bear.

[Jay]

I was Madonna one year. That was fantastic because she was like my idol and I did like the leather jacket and the dental jean skirt and the makeup and I drew the mole on.

[Richard]

Oh, that's cute.

[Jay]

I was probably like 8, 7 or 8. I love that one.

[Richard]

That's a fun costume.

[Jay]

That was a really fun one. Yeah. Cuz now every. That was when like you still did like really tried for the Halloween costume. And then one year, my dad's fiance, who he did not end up marrying, she was really clever though. And she, she told us how she had went as a mummy one year and. But like wrapped head to toe like toilet paper to really make it look like a mummy. And like me and Bobby, I think maybe Kaylee too, but maybe not. Maybe Kaylee did a different costume. But me and Bobby were like, yeah, that. So she like painted our face white and the eyes black. But then we stood there for like ever while, like her and my dad wrapped like. Yeah, we just had on like jeans and a long sleeve shirt because again, it's Ohio.

[Richard]

Yeah, it's cold.

[Jay]

But then they wrapped our whole bodies in, like, the toilet paper to look like the mummy. And that was, like, a really good one. That, like, strings hanging off and stuff.

[Richard]

And it stayed. It lasted.

[Jay]

They had. When I tell you there was multiple roles. Like, we probably should have come home and shut down in the bathroom so we could have reused.

[Richard]

I was a mummy once.

[Jay]

Were you?

[Richard]

It was recent when I was working at Pump, like, a few years ago.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Richard]

But I put white out contacts in.

[Jay]

Oh.

[Richard]

So I just got everyone's food wrong the whole night because I was like, I can't see, but this is my costume. This is what you get for coming to a restaurant in West Hollywood on Halloween.

[Jay]

You get the wrong food. Deal with it.

[Richard]

It.

[Jay]

You're lucky there's not a spider in there, too.

[Richard]

Exactly. It's Halloween themed.

[Jay]

They're like. There's a hair. You're like. It was a joke.

[Richard]

Exactly. Duh.

[Jay]

It's not real.

[Richard]

Happy Halloween.

[Jay]

Here's your prize.

[Richard]

Yeah. My mom. My mom. And also. So I wanted to be. Well, I also remember wanting to be a witch. And it's because I wanted to wear, like, dress, but I was too embarrassed to say it. And then I was like, oh, my God, Merlin's ass is in a dress. So I was a wizard. And I actually loved that costume. My mom helped me make it. And, like, the hat was so tall, like Merlin's. And I had some long white beard and felt like a bad bitch. Okay. My wand literally just rolled it up. Tinfoil.

[Jay]

Dom told me he wants to dress as a knight this year, but he wants a real sword and chain. Metal. I was like, no.

[Richard]

Okay.

[Jay]

I was like, well, you have a job. Up.

[Richard]

Sounds like an accident waiting to happen, buddy.

[Jay]

It's like, where are you going?

[Richard]

You need a real sword.

[Jay]

Not necessarily, like, a real one, but like an actual, like, long, metal something. And I was like.

[Richard]

And he wanted to be in, like, a night outfit.

[Jay]

Yeah. I think he just thought, like, the whole idea was cool. Like, he's not going anywhere.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Oh, God, no.

[Richard]

See, now in my life, when it comes to costumes, minimal effort. I'm a little embarrassed that I had all of these clothes that I'm wearing.

[Jay]

I'm curious why you have those shorts.

[Richard]

These are. Well, these are Nell's shorts.

[Jay]

Okay, that makes sense. Definitely.

[Richard]

And I literally saw him. I was like, hey, can I borrow those?

[Jay]

And is that shirt from 80 Day?

[Richard]

This shirt is what I wore on the finale of 80 Day.

[Jay]

I was like, I recognize that shirt. And I think I remember us making fun of it.

[Richard]

Then, no, but I wore it. Okay. It was cool. The last day of 80 day. But since you bring it up, because I think about it every time I wear this shirt. I wore it in one of our other programs, and someone high up in. In Beachbody was like, there. That day was like, who would ever put Donald in orange? And I was like, oh, I think I look good in orange.

[Jay]

Whoever said orange is the new pink? Yeah, seriously.

[Richard]

And orange is actually my least favorite color.

[Jay]

It's not a great color.

[Richard]

I don't look amazing right now.

[Jay]

You look amazing. If people are listening, this is an episode.

[Richard]

You really need to go watch YouTube. Yeah. We'll post a picture, too, on Instagram, so make sure you can come see it there.

[Jay]

But, yeah, we will. This wig is killing me right now. I was looking at something from 80 day a few days ago, and I was like, you know, those were not our best outfits.

[Richard]

Absolutely not. This did not age well.

[Jay]

No, it really didn't. Like, like, there was no cohesive look or feel.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I think because it was 80 days long, we were just trying to make sure we had wardrobe through that workout.

[Richard]

Yeah. And it was a little like my. My body has had a big transformation since then. But also, I would never wear a lot of the things. Like, the shorts that I wore then would go, like, down to my knees.

[Jay]

I know. And then you had leggings on under them.

[Richard]

It's like, what? I still have so many leggings. Just because I have this weird thing about throwing away. I'm like, I don't wear these. I need, like, one pair. But I should throw them out.

[Jay]

Well, if you look at day one of 80 day, all the way to the end, which it was three months. Right. It was 13 weeks. There was a big style change happening in fitness for women in general.

[Richard]

Yes.

[Jay]

We went from very low rise to very high rise leggings. And so literally, like, my pants in phase one are on my hip bones, man. I had those things, things custom made Britney Spears for how low I like to wear them.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

It was better when my abs were a little tighter. But by the end, I swear to God, those things were up to my nipples. I was like, what are we doing? I was like, I gained, like, four inches of fabric.

[Richard]

No, it was so low in the beginning. I was like.

[Jay]

To the point where I was like, my crack might be out.

[Richard]

Exactly. Either in the front or the back.

[Jay]

I was like, I think I could tuck my boobs into the waistband. Wow.

[Richard]

There was like a. That's what I was going to Say, actually, I'm glad you said it because it was, it was funny because it shifted. Like the style was shifting a lot.

[Jay]

High waisted pants were coming in style. Like the low rise jeans were going out. High waist was coming in.

[Richard]

I was Superman that year. And I was so excited because my dress pants that I wore as Clark Kent, I were like so comfortable to wear after 80 day. I was like, yeah, she's a bad on Halloween.

[Jay]

See, I got the gays ready.

[Richard]

You sure did.

[Jay]

Okay, we did an episode on etiquette. So can we talk about Halloween etiquette?

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Well, we already said how old is for trick or. How old is too old for trick or treating.

[Richard]

If you can drive, you shouldn't trick or treat. I just, I don't know if I gave a definite thing, but I think if you're of driving age or even like, and I'm talking, you can get your temps. If you're 15 and a half, I kind of think you're too old to trick or treat. Definitely 16.

[Jay]

Okay. For costumes, like, let's say you're going to a party. We already sort of talked about, like, just how, like, it's usually like how, like when you're trying to. Is there etiquette for like, hey, if somebody can't. If they don't know what your costume is, your costume sucks. Or if you're going as a couple, do you have to have a couple's costume? Or can you be one person and your significant other can be a totally different thing? Or does it like. That's a good question. A joint.

[Richard]

I like couples. I like group costumes because sometimes that, sometimes your costume doesn't make sense unless you have the other person.

[Jay]

Like, yeah, you can't pick a. You can't pick a costume that requires the other person.

[Richard]

And not like, I wouldn't be, like, if Nell and I went to a party. I wouldn't be Woody or Buzz if he wasn't Woody or the other. Or I wouldn't be Mario if he wasn't Luigi or vice versa or Princess Peach or something. You know what I mean? Like, so I think couples costumes are good. You don't have to have them, but I think they're clever and sometimes they make it easier because you can collaborate and be like, okay, but I think it's also fine to wear something really. Like, I think it's fine to, to phone it in, especially if you're funny about it. Like, some guy wore a shirt, he was like, like, I think it was Tinder or a dating app. It Was like, swipe left or right or something. Like, I think that's fine. Or what?

[Jay]

You know, Clever.

[Richard]

Yeah, exactly. I think you can find clever things where you're participating without having to, like, hire a seamstress and you source fabric from, you know, I just thought of.

[Jay]

One when I was in college. One of my guy friends and his friend, they went, this is so gross. It was clever. They went as tampons.

[Richard]

Oh, my God.

[Jay]

So they got all white sweatsuits.

[Richard]

No.

[Jay]

And they put on a swim cap with, like, a rope out of the top. And they wrote the word in blue Tampax on them.

[Richard]

Oh, wow.

[Jay]

Like, down the front. They didn't put, like, blood or anything on it.

[Richard]

Okay, that's good. It was so worried.

[Jay]

No, it was. No, no, it wasn't like, a used thing, but. But I was like, oh, my God.

[Richard]

Did think of the pickup lines they would have used.

[Jay]

It was college, though, so it was like, you know, they're just.

[Richard]

No, I think that kind of stuff is cute.

[Jay]

Being college boys, being funny.

[Richard]

I went to a Halloween event one time, and a bunch of these guys, and they were like. It was the most. Like, they. They had their bodies airbrushed, painted, and they had amazing bodies, but they were all serial. Like, one was like, the tiger.

[Jay]

Was he painted like the tiger, or was it, like. Was he painted like the tiger from Frosted Flakes or, like, the box from Frosted Flakes?

[Richard]

Both. They all had the box of what they were painted by.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Richard]

And it was the brand. Clearly the brand. I don't remember exactly how it was done, but it had, like, the logo on the chest.

[Jay]

I want to know who was toucan Sam.

[Richard]

And I found out. I'm just kidding. Oh, that's good. So that was. That was, like, a cool idea, but I really don't.

[Jay]

Like, we missed the mark. We should have got airbrushed and just sat here.

[Richard]

I think we knew. I think. I think we hit the bullseye. If these costumes are the most iconic costumes you've seen, I don't know, but, like, you're doing.

[Jay]

First of all, let me just tell you guys, fun fact. We were not into the costume part of this episode.

[Richard]

It was a meltdown in my mind.

[Jay]

I was like, it wasn't a meltdown in his mind. It was a meltdown at me, very clearly outside the costume store. He was so over it.

[Richard]

I seriously.

[Jay]

I was like, I don't know what to do with this side of Donald. I don't really seen this side.

[Richard]

I was puffing a THC vape and drinking a beer. I was like, I just need to escape out of this situation and lie. You're like, are you.

[Jay]

Are you okay trying to decide what the frig to be to sit here?

[Richard]

Yeah. But this was your idea. I have to give you props, and I actually love this idea.

[Jay]

It was fun.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

I do feel like Richard Simmons, may he rest in peace, is an easier identified costume than Jane Fonda, Especially because, like, I really couldn't find. Exactly. I was trying to find some of her iconic covers, and they just don't make the leotards like they used to and stuff. So I was like, I really had a piecemeal this together, and then the one leotard I ordered freaking overnight. I'm not gonna call out the brand, but this was, like, not a. This wasn't a Halloween costume. This was like, I really searched, and it still hasn't come. It's been a week.

[Richard]

That's so annoying. I was so excited overnight.

[Jay]

Yeah. I was like, let me dig out what do I have?

[Richard]

My favorite is the wig.

[Jay]

This wig is. Oh, I actually tried to put the headband on with it, and I was like, oh, no, this is not it. That wasn't it.

[Richard]

Oh, that's so funny.

[Jay]

Yeah. But Halloween is here.

[Richard]

Yes.

[Jay]

I'm glad it's almost over. Do we have any other etiquette things for Halloween?

[Richard]

Let's see.

[Jay]

Oh, let's talk. Okay. Pumpkin spice. We have tried to talk about pumpkin spice.

[Richard]

Oh, yeah. Every episode got deleted. So I guess now is the time I forgot.

[Jay]

I feel like it could be a curse. Like, if I feel like I'm gonna mention this shit's gonna go sideways. Pumpkin spice. Is it pumpkin spice and everything nice. Or are we just over pumpkin spice in general? And it's just a basic girl. Basic.

[Richard]

I'm so over it. Except for I saw a mix for a pumpkin spice espresso martini the other day, and I was like, don't send me with a good time. So I'm not a big pumpkin spice person.

[Jay]

Pumpkin spice espresso martini.

[Richard]

Yeah. I feel like a pumpkin spice coffee.

[Jay]

But, yeah, I feel like one of those would be, like, more than. For sure.

[Richard]

Well, I think that about espresso martinis, when people have, like, four of them, first of all, they coat your mouth. Yeah. And secondly, you're chugging an upper and a downer. Like, you want to die.

[Jay]

Here's Amazing emotions.

[Richard]

Yeah. I do one to tempt fate, but if you start doing more than one espresso martini, you're brave, You're Braver than I am. I mean, I don't know if I'm gonna have the coffee shits at night or the liquor shits in the morning.

[Jay]

But it's a toss up either way. You have the shits. Perfect.

[Richard]

But. Yeah. Pumpkin spice.

[Jay]

Do you like pumpkin spice?

[Richard]

I'm. I'm. I don't like to. I don't like pumpkin spice lattes.

[Jay]

We established that when we tried them.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

We were like, oh, this doesn't even hit.

[Richard]

Yeah. But I do like pumpkin bread or like pumpkin loaf.

[Jay]

Oh, a pumpkin muffin with cream cheese frosting.

[Richard]

Yeah. I love that kind of pumpkin pie. Obviously. Delicious.

[Jay]

It's gotta be made real, though.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

You don't like the fake stuff.

[Richard]

Me either.

[Jay]

I think that's part of it. It's, you know, everybody's like cold and flu season and it's like, oh, it's really just sugar season right now. Like in every. But everything is disguised as it's pumpkin spice. I'm like, there ain't a lick of pumpkin in any of this.

[Richard]

I know. Well, when we tried. So we filmed a pumpkin the episode before where we taste tested these pumpkin spice lattes. It was not. It didn't even give pumpkin.

[Jay]

No.

[Richard]

I was like, this is just very sweet.

[Jay]

Yeah. Aggressively. I told you it was sitting on my counter. The one from Starbucks, like, so I brought them inside and I did. I just didn't pour them down the drain. Whatever. Because. But the next morning I went to dump them out and I opened it and I was like, oh, this is so gross. It was like an orange. Like the color of your outfit. Orange film on top and then all the coffee under it, but, like, thick. And I was like, yeah. Oh, yeah, that. No, we shouldn't be drinking that.

[Richard]

I really. I will say, like, if I get something like that, I always ask for at least half because they add those pumps.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Richard]

I'm always like, one pump. Yeah. And that'll do it. I mean, that's still plenty. You can taste it.

[Jay]

I just saw that wig all over again on your head.

[Richard]

I love it.

[Jay]

A pumpkin spice or chai? Which one?

[Richard]

Chai. Hands.

[Jay]

Same Chai.

[Richard]

Love it. I love chai. I like spiced things.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Richard]

I think pumpkin spice drinks are just so sweet. Even pumpkin pie spice, I like added to things because I like that kind of flavor. And I think that's the thing I like about chai. You can taste. Even though it's also sweet, you can taste, like, the spiciness of it.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Richard]

I think that's what I miss. Yeah.

[Jay]

Clove and the ginger. And yes, you're getting those different flavors that are really good. I like chai better, but I love me some pumpkin pie. We are going into. We're in fall. Like, not going into it, but we're going into now Thanksgiving.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Which I'm actually so excited to. What? Like, I'm like, like, yes. Because I want to get into talking about all the things. What are we thankful for? What are traditions? When do we decorate for the holidays? Like, all that stuff. Yeah, I'm ready for. How much does your family torture you? I signed up for a lot in November, by the way.

[Richard]

Oh, you signed up for a lot?

[Jay]

Yeah. Like, November is about to be real chaos.

[Richard]

Really?

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Richard]

What is it? Does this affect me a little?

[Jay]

We're gonna have to really figure out some filming episodes. Well, all right.

[Richard]

I have an idea. Let's play a game.

[Jay]

Okay. I love a game.

[Richard]

I made it up on the spot. So the rules are easy. It's called trick or treat. And if you like something, then it's a treat.

[Jay]

Hate.

[Richard]

But if that thing is not for you, that is a trick. You know what I mean?

[Jay]

So you mean like those Kim Kardashian Pub.

[Richard]

Like the Kim Kardashian Pub underpin. Those are a trick. A hairy trick. Legit. Even though if we want to do something with these wigs, we could repurpose them. Just get some old underwear and real quick. I need a little.

[Jay]

We can make a little money stick.

[Richard]

That's right. Wait, okay. Haunted houses.

[Jay]

Oh, trick.

[Richard]

That's a treat for me.

[Jay]

No.

[Richard]

I love being so scared. Love being scared. Well, okay. Apple bobbing treat.

[Jay]

As long as I don't have a face full of makeup, I trick.

[Richard]

All that is is a bunch of slobber in a bucket. When I see everyone's heads in there, I'm like, this is different. Disgusting.

[Jay]

Well, yeah. If I'm bobbing with a bunch of adults, I trust them a little bit more than kids. But if you got kids in there.

[Richard]

No, I don't trust nobody. Their nose is in it. Their eyeballs. That's how you get how the people your doctor be like. How you get pink eye on your cheek. I was apple bobbing.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Richard]

Oh, it's definitely horror movies.

[Jay]

Nope. Trick.

[Richard]

Treat for me. I love them.

[Jay]

Hate them.

[Richard]

Even though they do scare the out of me.

[Jay]

You really like being scared? I mean, that's just everyday life for me. I just don't need added to it.

[Richard]

Right. Sexy costumes.

[Jay]

Depends on who's wearing it. Could be a treat.

[Richard]

Obviously, it's a treat for me.

[Jay]

We were in West Hollywood for gay pride.

[Richard]

Oh, my God. I didn't realize this was hanging on my ass. It's a hair from my wig that I just. Anyway, I swear your wig. All this bush conversation made me lose my place. Corn mazes trick. I kind of feel like a trick too, because I want them to be a haunted corn maze.

[Jay]

I don't want anything to do with being in a maze. It's a corn, and I can't find my way out. How do you get out?

[Richard]

See, when I was a kid back in my day, my aunt had a big cornfield behind her house. And we would go just explore the cornfield. And the only rule was we had to have this big stick with, like, a flag on it. So if we got lost. Yeah. Raise the thing and, like, scream for help.

[Jay]

Makes sense.

[Richard]

It's cra. I would never let my children, like, okay, go get lost in the cornfield.

[Jay]

They probably loved it. It was quiet.

[Richard]

Literally.

[Jay]

They're like, trick for you, treat for the adults.

[Richard]

Exactly. Pumpkin carving.

[Jay]

It's probably a trick for me.

[Richard]

I was going to say. Yeah.

[Jay]

I think for some people it's a treat. But if you're not really artistic, like, I'm not. Then you're just probably gonna cut your hand. Your pumpkin's gonna look ridiculous.

[Richard]

The whole thing. Yeah. It ends up caving.

[Jay]

Messy.

[Richard]

I was gonna say it's a treat because I love an activity, but it's a trick. Cause I fucking suck at it. And I like activities that I'm good at. Same ghost stories.

[Jay]

I do like ghost stories, but can we tell them a little earlier in the day so I have time to, like, let it go.

[Richard]

Yeah. Watch something happy. That is me. After I watch, like, a very scary, messed up thing on tv, I have to, like, watch a pretty nice cartoon. Yeah.

[Jay]

You gotta fall asleep.

[Richard]

Be like friends. Change your tone. Yeah. Watching Hocus Pocus again.

[Jay]

Oh, it's a treat.

[Richard]

Always.

[Jay]

Always.

[Richard]

Yeah. Fake spiderweb decor.

[Jay]

Trick.

[Richard]

Trick. Especially when we have the real thing studio.

[Jay]

It's just still all sticky and like.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

All over the place.

[Richard]

And it's there. If you ever notice, you go to a restaurant and it'll be literally like March, and they still have leftover spiderweb decorations, like, from home.

[Jay]

It's probably not left over.

[Richard]

Exactly. I'm like, y', all, I see you don't clean every nook and cranny. Yeah. Trick or treating as an adult. We touched on that.

[Jay]

No, trick or treating is an adult.

[Richard]

Absolutely not.

[Jay]

Unless you got A little kid with you.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Otherwise, no, it's trick.

[Richard]

Yeah, that's like. Like trick. Like, this might be a criminal. Call the police. Like, if you're an adult going up to people's houses asking for candy. Yeah, that's. That's crazy. Halloween parties on a weekday. Oh.

[Jay]

Oh, that's just rude.

[Richard]

Yeah, that's a trick.

[Jay]

Yeah. Like, how are you supposed to go to work the next day? I mean, for us, whatever.

[Richard]

Yeah, Right. But for most people.

[Jay]

For most people, that's terrible.

[Richard]

Yeah, that's a no. Oh, doing a seance.

[Jay]

No, that's trick. No, we're not opening those portals.

[Richard]

Oh, my God. I know that's what I should say, but to me it feels like a treat. I've been. I literally the other day was like, with some friends and I was like, chat GPT. Can you tell us how to do a seance? And she was like, instead of say that you did. I'm not opening those portals. Yeah. She was like, I'm AI. We don't mess with demons. No, she didn't say that. But she did. She was like, I can't. She said, I can walk you through a really nice ceremony to appreciate past experience. And I was like, no, I want to summon the dead. Real life haunted places. Like a tour of a real haunted.

[Jay]

Okay. It's sort of a treat. Like, I remember. Okay. I remember growing up, like, there was one place my mom lived, I think it was Virginia. And, like, parts of the town were haunted. There was this giant castle, like, house thing that was haunted that you could take a tour of. But also the general store, which was still very much general store that you could go in. Like, people all the time would hear noises and things would randomly fall off the shelf. Health. And we would go in there, but it was always like, something gonna happen. Like, so there's a part of me that was always, like, curious about it, I think, because I have curiosity about the other side.

[Richard]

Yes.

[Jay]

I just don't want evil.

[Richard]

You want to attach.

[Jay]

I don't want it to attach to me.

[Richard]

Well, I've been obsessed with watching old videos. I mentioned it, I think, on last week's episode from. Oh, what's her name? Brown. Sylvia Brown. Who was this? The medium who went on the Montel Williams show back 90s. And she said something on a video I saw, which she's been so many of what she said has been disproven.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Richard]

But she said, you know, sometimes you think it's a ghost haunting, and it's actually just an energetic Imprint. And so, like, with antique furniture, there can be a darkness to it. That's not a ghost. It's not a spirit. It's not an. It's just an energy that's imprinted there. I was like.

[Jay]

Like, you know, you can keep your energy yourself.

[Richard]

She said, so if you're ever antique shopping and it just doesn't feel right, don't question it, don't buy it. I was like, okay, okay.

[Jay]

I like that.

[Richard]

Sylvia watching True Client, True Crime. The. The question is, watching True Crime in.

[Jay]

October, I actually find, like, I like watching True.

[Richard]

I love.

[Jay]

Again, not at night. Night. Like, not too late. I need time to watch something else. There's a new documentary that just popped up on Netflix. I saw it last night. I think it's called, like, the Perfect Neighbor. Oh, did you?

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Is it good?

[Richard]

It is, actually. So just to. To. I'm not going to give any spoilers, but I will say. And it says in the beginning, almost the whole thing is live police body cam footage.

[Jay]

Yeah.

[Richard]

And there is a specific scene that was actually very difficult really, to watch. It's not gory.

[Jay]

Okay.

[Richard]

But knowing that it's not a reenactment and it's a real thing that's happening in real time.

[Jay]

Oh.

[Richard]

I was like. Like, oh, my God. So I definitely think you should watch it.

[Jay]

Yeah, I definitely. Like, that's on my list. It's not.

[Richard]

It's not one that'll leave you scared, but it is one that takes you on a bit of an emotional roller coaster.

[Jay]

Yeah. Because I was just watching the previews, and I'm like, I'm not really sure where this is going. I get it. The woman's annoyed at everything.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

From the neighbors and calls the police. Like, literally, if a kid laughs.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

But then I was like, this has to be going somewhere. Are not good.

[Richard]

Yeah, I watched it. I love those kinds of things. So for me, it's a treat. Yes. But. And so the last one, I think we talked a little bit about this. But decorating before October 1st. No, no. Like, if you're decorating for Halloween in September. No, I don't think you should be decorating for fall in September. I know some people, like, put their pumpkins out in September. The first day of fall is what, September 22nd?

[Jay]

September 2022nd. Or the 23rd, if you're in a leap year. So, yes, the first day of fall is not until technically the end of September. But I break this rule a little bit with Christmas, because if you're. If you're a 30 day rule person. Which in general I am. Like, I was at Target yesterday and all this Christmas stuff was out and I was like, mother, we're not there.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Like Halloween hasn't even come. Like, I remember when I was a kid, nothing turned to Christmas until the day after Thanksgiving.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And that made it super fun. And you still had five weeks, which is more than enough.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Christmas in my life.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

But the fact that it's out in October is just annoying. But like I said to Kent yesterday, I was like, hey, do we have the guy scheduled to put the Christmas lights on the house? And he's like, no, do you want me call him and do it? And I was like, yeah, but the guy books up so fast. I tend to let him come the first week of November and put them up. I don't turn them on.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

But they're up. So that when I am ready to throw that switch, I can. And I usually start doing it around the second or third week of November.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Last year I was super in the holiday spirit and I decorated my house really early. But I realized that that was a mistake because literally by Christmas Day I was so over it.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

And Dom, I think I told you Dom went down to San Diego for Christmas. That like, we had already done presents. Santa could leave it. I had one little spot where Santa could leave things. But other than that, I cleaned that whole house up on Christmas day. I said goodbye.

[Richard]

Yeah, I feel that too. And I, you know, decorating, I feel like, I mean, this is a harsh judgment. So I just want to. I know that before I say it, but you must not really like your house if you're decorating seasonally so. Or for holidays so early or you're just obsessed with the holidays.

[Jay]

I think it's not that they don't like their house. I think they like their house. I think it's really.

[Richard]

I like their house.

[Jay]

I think they. I think it's more that they really love the holidays and want to get into it and like, want to feel that, like you just get that like sort of emotional warmth probably.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

So I think people really like getting into it. But man, like I said, I just. The holidays are. There's one in October, there's one in November, there's kind of one in December. It's like a day and a half long.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jay]

Like, I just don't. It's so much.

[Richard]

Yeah, well, I guess.

[Jay]

No, well, we're wrapping it up because our camera just died.

[Richard]

Well, guys, I hope that you enjoyed while we just reminisce and talked a little bit about some of our Halloween likes, dislikes, tricks, treats, and discussed our iconic costumes.

[Jay]

Thank you for joining me, Richard.

[Richard]

Yeah. Oh, anytime, Jane.

[Jay]

Yes. All right.

[Richard]

If you want to see how we looked. If you're listening to this, go check it out. Watch it. What? You can always watch our podcast on YouTube and check us out on Instagram. It's Everything's Perfect Official.

[Jay]

Everything's Perfect Official on Instagram. If you want to send us photos of your Halloween costumes or weigh in on an the things we talked about today, email us at everything's perfect podcastmail.com and we will see you guys next week where we can get into all things holidays and maybe some conspiracy theories. AI and see you next time.