
In this episode, Autumn and Donald dive into what it actually feels like to live with a constantly busy brain. From overwhelm and distraction, to hyperfocus and random deep dives that take over your entire day.They talk about growing up undiagnosed,...
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Welcome to the show.
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Us talking about topics we know nothing about. We just did a booty workout an hour ago and I felt that.
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Yeah, we didn't pick up a single dumbbell and I was shaking, literally.
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Your glutes upset? Are you twerk?
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How you doing?
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Oh, you know, I'm great. How are you? I'm just over here literally multitasking while we're ready to film.
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How's your butt feel?
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Okay. After we do anal episodes. That is not the right way to start.
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Just checking in.
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We just did a booty workout like an hour ago and I felt that.
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Yeah, we didn't pick up a single dumbbell and I was shaking like.
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No, literally, your glutes. I said, are you twerking over there?
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It's like, what are you doing? To me.
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It was so good, though. I loved it.
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It was awesome.
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And by the way, I wrote it and it will be coming to my new app.
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Yes, yes.
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Spring, slash early summer. That particular workout.
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Yeah. No specific dates yet.
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I'm not giving any more specific dates because.
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Because life be life.
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And because everything's perfect. Except I can't hit a launch date to save my life.
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Yeah, we make plan. What do they say? We make plans and God laughs. Yeah, we should add to that statement. It's we make plans, God laughs and we cry truth. Like, wait a minute.
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But why? Don't put a dream in my heart and then make it impossible to follow
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through on it exactly at the exact timeline that I expected. What?
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I'm only like months behind. It's fine. I'm doing great.
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God's plan.
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If he could give me the manual, that would be super helpful.
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Yeah, if he could, I could swap out one of my guardian angels for an executive assistant. Like I said, Lord, now we're Talking now.
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We are.
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We can get some things done.
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If you knew what is happening in my brain at this particular moment and it's been happening all morning because there are so many things I have to get done that it's like. And we have to do this. And we think there's so many file tabs open and they're running so fast,
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literally all of them. I'm like, that's how I am. And then I get nothing done because I'm like, I don't know where to start. Yeah, I can't. I can't.
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Let's do a podcast that's like. Like, I'll. I'll take a shower.
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I was thinking about that, actually. Like, I was thinking about how me specifically, I. If I feel overwhelmed with tasks in front of me. And it could be like a list of things, like, you need to, you know, respond to this email, figure this out about, you know, some kind of personal, like, let's for example, say taxes or something, but nothing that's like huge.
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Are you trying to stress me out?
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Right? But that happens. And I'm like, okay, so first what I need to do is get in a fetal position on my bed and just curl up and turn the lights off.
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And like, none of it's cap.
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And I was like, well, this is because of my adhd, obviously. And then I realized you self diagnosed yourself with adhd. And so I thought, well, we can talk about that a little bit today. I would like to. I would like to vent about that. What a great subject for us to talk about is even like, we were recording an episode that we were like, squirrel, squirrel. Like, always going in different directions.
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You might have to scrap that because.
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Yeah, because what did we talk about?
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No clue.
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We used a lot of words to talk about nothing but that. But I feel like also I have this idea. Maybe it's a hope that our listeners relate to that and just go along with the ride. Like. Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people.
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Oh, no. First of all, we have to be self diagnosed. You want to know why? Because our parents didn't give. They were like, they. We were latchkey kids. They were at work. They had no time to take us to get quote, unquote diagnosed for ADHD or anything else. They're like, no, you're just. They called me flighty as a kid.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I've never been diagnosed. But when you read that list, I was like, well, check.
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Yeah, my. So I was actually talking with this to. About this with someone over the weekend. I Was there a teacher? I think an elementary school teacher or something. And we started talking about how I was homeschooled, and I was like, you know, I. That. Like the pros and cons, and I don't have any regret, but you just. In hindsight, I think we all would maybe do things differently or acknowledge things that maybe weren't known then. And I was like, I really think I struggled with some. I don't know if it's correct even anymore to say learning disabilities, but I had, like, those. Like, my brain worked differently, and my parents, especially because I was homeschooled, just thought I was being bad, but it really was. And now I can relate, like, in how my brain works in adult life. I'm like, I was just a kid dealing with a lot of doing my best, and, you know, my family loves me. But I think, like, when. When I was having that. Those kind of re. Responses to situations, it was like, okay, you're getting spanked. Like, pay attention.
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Yeah. You know, well, without going into, like. I mean, I've talked about it a lot. Not Dom doesn't care. But Dom, my son, obviously did get diagnosed eventually with ADHD and ocd. And it was end of fourth grade. Like, he had started his fifth grade year, but, like, he was struggling so much through school, like, all through grade school. And I remember, like, homework time would drive me insane.
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Yeah.
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And we would argue and fight, and, like, he would get so frustrated, and I would get so frustrated. And then I remember the day, like. Because then we took him. Like, they were like, he's really struggling to keep up with work. And they were like, he needs to go on medicine. And his dad and I, this is just our choice. We were like, first of all, we need to see if there's a situation.
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Yeah.
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And then once there is one, we'll figure it out from there because we did not want to put him on meds, and he's not on meds. But sure enough, we did two days full testing, like, with a child therapist, and. And she was like, yeah, basically, when Dom sits in these classrooms, they might as well speak Chinese.
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Yeah.
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Because of. I don't like the word disorder either, but, like, that's what they call it is a learning disorder. And it's not a disorder. It's just a different way his brain works. It's not that he can't learn.
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Yeah.
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It's sitting in a classroom for eight hours while they just talk at you.
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Right.
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He's fucking out, man. The kid's got so much energy. So Anyways, when we pulled him and homeschooled him and they started teaching him in a different way, more interactive, where, like, he could be up and moving, he's thriving. This kid is so smart, and the stuff that he is, like, able to learn and retain so quickly is mind blowing to me. And it actually pisses me off because I was like, you are at a private school. I was paying a lot of dollars. And he was there for two years before they even caught it.
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Yeah.
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But he was diagnosed, point being. And once we switched it up and he was able to get up and move his body more and stuff like that and learn in a way that
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he can learn it, like, it started being more accessible to him.
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Honestly, he uses it to his advantage.
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Yeah.
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Like, he's taking a college level music theory class right now.
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Mm.
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He just picked up the guitar a year ago, and he's got it. And when I say he's got it, I mean, it's like he's. It's Berkeley.
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Yeah.
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Like, this is not some, like, little nothing music school he's doing online Berkeley. I'm like, how the fuck did you learn this fast?
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Yeah, it's. It's so true.
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So it could be a superpower.
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Exactly. Well, the. The teacher I was talking to said, like, in her classroom, there was a kid that was so disruptive in the front, so she had a meeting with him and his parents and moved him to the back of the classroom. So when he needs to take movement during the class, he can. And he. He, like, they. I don't know, the. Like, if he asks or if they just say, okay, what. Whatever it is. But some. If he needs to get up and sort of jump up and down for a little bit.
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Yeah. Get there.
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And it helps him actually be more attentive in class. Or I. Who. And this is just to speak to the different ways that our brain works. Whose kid is. I think he just turned 11 and he's. He's struggling in school, like, getting in trouble a lot. And the fact is that doesn't necessarily. It's not like, oh, you're just being bad. It really is a lot of times, the way that your brain works, I think. And, you know, again, talking about topics
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we know nothing about.
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Welcome to the show. But at once. So they had these parent teacher meetings with all of his teachers together. And one of the teachers, because they'll give him warnings, and then he ends up being loud again, saying stuff, and he keeps getting detentions. And one teacher said, when I give him a warning, I Put a card with a red circle on his desk. And when he can see that, when that red circle is on his desk, he doesn't act up again. And I'm like, that makes so much sense. Because hearing a warning versus seeing a color, that means something, it like activates different parts of the brain. And it. When you learn how your brain works. So that's why I say I'm self diagnosed. And I lean into that because it makes me understand why some of the struggles I have with my. I don't even want to say struggles, but some of the things, like, for example, I cannot complete tasks if I'm not like on the phone or talking to someone.
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Oh.
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It's like they call it body doubling, I think. And I need to be like, if I'm not doing anything, I don't want to talk on the phone, but I want to talk on the phone and get shit done.
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Yeah. Same always like, and if I'm on an important phone call, I have to be moving, like, especially if it's like one where I'm like trying to solve a problem. I have to pace. Like today I was on that zoom call this morning and I got up because two minutes into the call, I'm like, the energy is going so fast in my body that I have to move so I can slow my brain and my words down.
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Yep.
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Because otherwise wise, I'm like, get on my page. Like, why aren't you up with my speed? But I do know that my brain processes significantly faster than most people's. Based on my brain scans that I've done with Dr. Amen and my doctors in Dallas. They're like, you're just at a very fast processing speed. So I have to move to slow it down and get my thoughts out. Or like, if I'm really trying to like solve a problem, I go take a walk.
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Yeah.
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And wall. And then I'll put music on in my ears because then it's background noise. This is how many stimulants I need at once. And then I'll start, like, as I'm solving it, I'm like typing it into my notes.
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Yeah.
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Like, but you want me to sit at a desk and try to come up with a solution?
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Wild. It's impossible. Sorry. I wish I could.
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I don't know how your brain works, but it shuts off.
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I literally, at my first apartment, I have a memory. At my first apartment in la, it was the smallest apartment that I've lived in. Super cute, but. And so there wasn't a lot of Pacing room. And I would get. I remember one time getting dizzy because I was on the phone. And when I'm talking on the phone like that, it's not like a little stroll. No. I'm like, walk, walk, walk.
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Yes.
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You know, and I had to turn and go the other way. Like, unwind. I was like, okay, fall over. But I just think it's so funny. And I looked online because I was like, what are 10, like, relatable, as said with total humor, obviously. And this is. I. I just want to, like, pause and say that I know there are different degrees that people may struggle with this. And then we're talking about it lightheartedly in a way that a lot of people can relate.
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Yes.
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But there's. We have absolutely no judgment or opinion about how someone deals with that in their own life. Whether you're. You find that medication really helps you. You've working out a actual diagnosis with your doctor. That's amazing.
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Yes. Because for a lot of people, I think it can be really debilitating and stuff like that. And so, like, we're by no means. First of all, we're not experts, and by no means are we trying to say, like, oh, it's not a big deal. It actually is a big deal. But I do think our generation didn't get diagnosed a lot with a lot of.
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But that's another. Yeah, that's another episode.
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I actually sometimes think I have, like. I don't want to say dyslexia, but maybe a degree of it. I catch myself a lot where I'm
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like, in reading and writing.
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Yes. And I'm like. And I can't spell to save my life. So let's just be clear on that. Like, I've said this from the beginning. I cannot spell to save my life. And I'm like, yeah.
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Like, there are words most people could spell that I can't even get close enough for my autocorrect to correct.
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Is it not the worst when you say the word into the phone and it still doesn't get it? And I'm like.
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I'm like, I can't even say it right.
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Yeah, I'm like, I know I said it right. So that's on you now.
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Exactly.
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Why is your nose running? Is it all the allergies?
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It must be, I think, honestly, because my nose has not been running like this. And I pulled up. Pulled up here. It's like, okay, so in a lighthearted way, I was like, what would, like, 10 relatable ADHD moments be okay like, that? These Are the kind of things that cause me to quote self diagnose.
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Okay, hit me with them. Let's see if you're talking about me.
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So one we already hit. It's. You have to be on the phone with someone to get basic tasks done.
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Who empty the dishwasher in silence.
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Exactly. I literally cannot.
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I have to at least put music on it.
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Right.
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This is why it's great. You answer the phone 99% of the time.
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Yeah. Or. Or I will, like, I'll say, I'm going to call you back. And so like if someone tells me if I try that and someone says they'll call me back, I wait to start folding that fucking laundry because I need that.
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Yeah, well, that test just got put off.
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Exactly. Okay, but another one. You walk room and immediately forget why you're there.
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Life.
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These like, I would be interested to know, like, if people think this is just everyone or if these are actually. Because I'm like, I thought everyone did all of these.
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I think it's to degrees. I think there are times everybody probably does it. The question is how often. I think I went upstairs three times yesterday for the same thing. And every time I got up to my room, I did something else, came back downstairs and I was like, back up. Get the one thing I went up for.
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Well, you're getting your step running some flights tell you see, it really is a superpower. It works out to help us. You hyperfocus on something random for hours.
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Oh, God. Okay, wait. Can I just say, don't get me. If there is something I fixate on, if it's something I want to buy, if it's something I want to do, I cannot let it go until it's done. And this is probably why I get super frustrated with like certain work stuff. Like even now with the beverage line and stuff. And I'm like, what do you mean you don't have a answer for me right now? This is not hard. Go give me the answer. And they're like, it doesn't happen that fast. And I'm like, well, it needs to that.
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It's like that for me. And it's about the most random stupid stuff, though. Like, I'll be like, I think we've talked about this. But like, how do. How does audio recording actually work? Like, how does sound go on a cd? And then everything else in life stops and I have to research. I'm online, I'm asking questions. Like, still not figuring out questions are leading to more questions. It's like, what does this matter? Or Even I'm ashamed to admit this one. We were just in Puerto Rico, Nell and I, and we did this beautiful hike. I can't wait till the next time for you to come.
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Yes, I'm coming.
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And I was, like, so embarrassing. I was like, so are islands, like, connected to the core of the earth, or how do they not float around? And I was, like, really didn't understand it because in my mind, the ocean is so vast and so deep, and we don't even go all the way down there. And then we have these islands, but they're just like huge mountains underwater, and islands are the top of them. That's what they found out.
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Connected.
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Yeah.
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To the earth.
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But that question haunted me until we got back to where I had cell phone service and could figure it out. So I'm just saying.
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Well, you want to know how sad mine is? I have certain style of Nikes that I like, and the newer styles are not my favorite. I don't like the way they're designed. They're. I have been on a manhunt for the last week. I don't even fucking care what color it is. Nike Zoom Pegasus 38 in a size 7. And you can't find them. Like, Amazon is sold out. And I am like, these are the shoes I need.
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Oh, that sucks.
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Because I feel like my foot expanded again. Like, I was a seven when I was in college, and it kind of shrunk down to a six and a half when I stopped dancing. And it wasn't on my feet as much. But now all I do is walk on my feet because I'm trying to solve problems. So, yeah, they expanded again. I need a size 7.
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Launching some businesses and walking around my kitchen a lot.
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Five at one time. Why wouldn't I do one? And I'm like, I need these size sevens. I've been on every site and then I find them on different sites. But I'm like, I'm gonna get ripped off from this site. I know it. I'm gonna buy them. O. I won't order one pair. I'll order seven.
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Yeah.
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I'll order every color they have. They'll never show up.
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Yeah. Or it's going to be like.
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And I'll forget.
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Written on Nike.
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Yes.
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Or, like, have a Y at the end of it.
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Perfect. Any. That's my little obsession. Go ahead.
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What else? Okay. Your brain has two modes. It's kind of the same. Can't start a task, won't stop a task. For me, this is like. Like, especially when I move, if I have a vision for a part of the house or like the room or. I remember my downtown apartment. I wanted these lights. I couldn't go to bed that night until I went, I went to like three different stores looking for what I wanted because it had to be there for when people like, I hyper focus on those things. But Again, I have 430 unread text messages and unread emails.
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Yes, same. It's.
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It's hard.
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It's. Life's hard.
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You open your phone to do one thing and 20 minutes later you're watching a video about penguins. That's also social media's fault.
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Yeah. Do not open your phone when you're getting ready to go to bed. Which is what I did last night. And an hour later I was like, it's midnight.
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Yeah.
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And then with all this daylight savings stuff, I was like, oh my God. I didn't wake up till 8:30 and the whole morning is gone.
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You guys, this autumn and I have been chasing this day and it's been running from us the entire day. It's like, oh wait minute, I'm so
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hungry right now I can't even tell you.
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It's fine. We have a break in three hours so you'll be able.
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We have dinner at 6:30. You can eat then.
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There's always breakfast tomorrow. Just kidding. Follow us for more health advice. Oh, this is a big one for me and I try to be better at it. I still do it, but I always apologize. It's. You interrupt people not because you're rude, but because your brain is like. Say it now before it disappears.
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Well, that's both of us. And we've talked, talked about this. Like we talk over each other sometimes. One, because we're excited and two, you can't forget it.
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And the voices in my head. Okay, we're getting two different, different conditions. No, like the thoughts in my head are so loud that sometimes they're like fully happening before someone else starts talking. So in my own little world, their voice interrupted my process. I'm still continuing.
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What do you mean? You didn't hear this? Because it's shouting.
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Yeah.
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Yes, agreed.
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You procrastinate until the last minute and then somehow become incredibly productive under pressure.
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If there's, If I have only two tasks to get done for the day, ain't nothing getting done.
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Yeah.
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But if I have 50 tasks, I'm getting 70 done.
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Yeah. Like under pressure.
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Yeah. Speaking of, I have two tasks that are due today that I still haven't finished. But we, we have productive. I Just need to get to those.
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Yeah. This is the fur. This is the. My first time having moved, coming into town and us doing this. So I'm like, telling Autumn, I'm like, we'll fig. We'll find our flow. I don't want you to think every time I come into town, it's going to be over a bit of chaos.
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No, I think the biggest problem was I slept till 8:30. Like, I'm normally up by 7, but again, daylight savings just happened two days ago.
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Yeah.
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And I stayed up too late last night because I went down a rabbit hole. And losing that hour and a half is massive in terms of, like, getting shit done.
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Yeah. And you need. And if you're tired trying to get shit done. My indigestion hasn't changed.
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That's consistent.
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Yeah.
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I'm not tired at all, but I need to.
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I mean, like, if you would have gotten up at seven.
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Oh, right.
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It would have just made the whole day.
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Yeah.
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Harder.
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Exactly.
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To handle. So let's see you start five projects at once and finish one. That's. I. I'm that way about things. The thing is, I get very excited about things and I know that not everything. I. Sometimes I think if I start something and it ends up being finished, it means it was a good one.
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Right.
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And the other ones, it's like you start and if they fizzle out, then they weren't that. Really.
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Yeah. Then it wasn't it.
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Right.
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I'm like that too. Like, there's definitely things I start and yes, if it's not doing it for me, I'm not gonna waste my time continuing.
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Sometimes if I have an idea, like for. If I'm writing songs or something, or if I have an idea, I need to be better about this with the podcast, but, like, something we could talk about, I'm like, I'm not gonna write it down yet because if it's a good idea, it'll stick with me.
A
Okay. Terrible plan. Do me a favor. Just shoot me a text when you have that good idea.
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Yeah.
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Because I will say I do that if I have a thought that comes to mind. It really doesn't matter the time of day or day of the week, whoever I need to message about it, even if it's a work thing, I will text them about it. But I'll say, hey, I know it's the weekend. I'm sending this so I don't forget. We could talk about it next week. Or, hey, I know it's the weekend, but I need a B and C From you. I'm not expecting it this weekend. I just don't want to forget to ask.
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Yeah, I'm putting this out there because
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a lot of times it's. The conversation will happen in my brain, and so I'll think I sent it. And then I'm like, hey, like, what happened to the data? And they're like, you didn't send that. And I'm like, yeah, I did. And then I go back and I'm
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like, oh, never send it. Yeah, why don't you ruin my mind? I need to be better at that. Because it's also like. Like, when you. When. When you have an idea. For me, it's so much better if I just tackle it, even if it's just forming the idea. Like, same with, like, posting on Social. I. I'm always like, the amount of reels I've saved with the best of intentions.
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With the best of intentions.
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The funny. The funny ideas I've had in my brain that have just stayed there. I saved the audio and then never look again. It just.
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Well, that's sad because. Because I save it and I'm like, I save it going, I wonder what I could do with this. I never come up with the idea.
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Yeah, I feel like if I just start working on it, then it. It will come together a little bit more. So I have to be better at that, too. You feel physically uncomfortable doing boring tasks. Like, paying bills is harder than running a mile. That's 100% true. But I feel like that's an everybody thing.
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So here's what's interesting. When I was, like, in my 20s, that was definitely not a hard thing for me at all. That was something I actually like again, because I'm like. I like taking control of things. So, like, a bill would come in. The day the bill would come in, I would write the check. It would go right back out in the mail. I would check it off my list of bills that I had to pay because I was managing my money with waiting tables and everything.
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That is amazing. I. That you did that.
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And it was so good. Like, I was so on top of it. My problem now. It's really funny because Kent is my assistant now, but as my husband, he would never do this shit, which would. So I had. I had to be on it even more. Once we got married, I took over the bills because I was like, it would drive me crazy if I'd see a bill sitting on the counter for days on end. I'm like, fuck and wear the jack. But now he does it for me just as a task to do.
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Yeah.
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And he's fine. He's on top of it. But I'm oblivious. Like I know what goes out with what I'm writing, spending. But like the regular day to days.
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Yeah.
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I haven't written a check in.
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Oh God.
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Oh God.
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I'm like thinking if I would remember how. Yeah. The line to sign on.
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Yeah.
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The memo. I haven't either. But it's crazy how much things have changed. But I was never good at that. Like I had the best of intentions and I'm the person that would. I would get the envelopes and I'd write like rent money, car money, insurance money or I would like get the separate accounts and ha. But my follow through has always suffered and I really do believe this is why I've self diagnosed myself because I'm like, I just think it's a condition. I want to do it. I know that I would feel better. Yeah, I know. If you work in university maintenance, Grainger considers you an MVP because your playbook ensures your arena is always ready for tip. On, off. And Granger is your trusted partner, offering the products you need all in one place, from H vac and plumbing supplies to lighting and more. And all delivered with plenty of time left on the clock. So your team always gets the win. Call 1-800-GRAINGER visit grainger.com or just stop by Grainger for the ones who get it done. Oh, everything's in order. Always make you feel better. Yes, but I just can't get those fucking things in order very easily.
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Yeah, I think it's. First of all, I will say this life has gotten so much busier and it, it really does come down to a lot of social media. Like we get. Like, imagine if social media didn't exist, if you were never going on there. Like literally Facebook, Instagram, Tick tock, if none of those exist, you're not mindlessly scrolling, you're not trying to come up with a funny reel to shoot. Like, like there's all of a sudden all this space in your brain.
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Yeah.
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And time to write the damn bill. Like pay the bill, write the check, do the things right. But I do feel like there's so much pressure depending on the field that you're in. Right. Like we are in a field that does require us to be on social media. Between the podcast, you know, your make supplements, me body, the app, the beverage, like that's how you market.
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Yeah. We have to promote ourselves, we have
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to reach our audience. So you have to do it right. Whereas These are not things that everybody has to do.
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Right. You know, we can both remember, like, when the Internet came out.
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Yeah.
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And I'm just sitting here thinking, not yes, before social media, but also, like, before people were texting. Like, the amount of text I get on my phone that I have to respond to, it's crazy. People didn't used to have in their pocket or the palm of their hand direct access for people to constantly be like, hey, hey, hey, hey.
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Even back. Like, okay. So I remember sending my first text ever. It was a drunken text.
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Oh.
A
To a guy I was kind of seeing. It was on my flip phone. So first of all, you had to go through the letters. ABC was the number one. So, you know, if you wanted to type the letter C, you had to hit that button three times. It took forever to type that thing up. And I remember I was like, in the backseat of my friend's car. We were driving somewhere, and I was trying to send him a text to be like, hey, what are you doing? Meet us. I couldn't figure out how to hit send because I didn't, you know, I was like, buzz. And I didn't realize you had to scroll down. And there was, like, another thing. It took me, like, an hour to finally figure out how to send that thing.
B
Right.
A
And that's. I also, like, a few years later, I was a trainer and, like, trying to text my clients. I would have to keep it so short because it took forever. Now it never ends. Morning, noon, and night. Like, literally, I wake up to my phone going off.
B
Yeah.
A
And people will be like, why don't you turn your phone off? I don't turn my phone off because I have a lot of family that lives in different states. I am a main point of contact for a lot. Like, I just don't turn the phone off.
B
Yeah. So I do feel like I wonder if they there. How many studies have been done or if studies will be done about how much this technology has affected are the way our brain works. Because that. All of that is so overwhelming. And it puts me in a place of feeling overwhelmed.
A
Right.
B
And where. When I'm thinking about it, like before email.
A
Oh.
B
People literally just had to worry about if their phone rang and the envelopes that showed up.
A
House phone rang.
B
Exactly.
A
If you left the house, you're.
B
You're free. That moment from driving to A to B, you just.
A
It was. You just listen to music. You turn on the radio, you listen to music. And by the way, everybody had to be on time because if you said you're going to be somewhere at 4 o'. Clock. You can't show up an hour late. There's no way to get a hold of somebody. So, like, you, maybe 405, right. But, like, you can't just be 30 minutes late.
B
People would leave and be worried about you. Maybe. It could be all kinds of things, right? It's so interesting. Yeah.
A
But now it's like so easy to, like, literally, oh, you're supposed to be there for. You're walking out the door and it's 30 minutes away and you're like, sorry, stuck in traffic. You're like, no, you're not. We're came from the same direction.
B
You show up at the Starbucks.
A
You're posting on social, like your outfit. You're like, I. I can see what you're doing.
B
You're live online.
A
The amount of people that do that, I'm like, wow, the. The level of stupidity.
B
Yeah.
A
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sick. So they call off work and then you're like, looking at their Instagram and you're like, you're at Disneyland, stupid.
B
Even though it would be hard for me now to go back to that and not being able to talk on the phone while I drive, because that's where I catch up the most with all my friends and family and people. Okay, the last one of these. You constantly lose things. Keys, phone, water bottle, AirPods. Sometimes all in the same day. How are you with that?
A
I don't lose things all the time. I lose things randomly. And my initial thought is to blame
B
everybody else, obviously, who moved my.
A
All the time. First thing I say, and then I'm like, oh, yeah, wait, I put it over here. It's. I don't say it out loud, though. I say it in my head. I'm like, move it again. And then I'm like, oh, wait, I know where. That's it. Do you lose stuff all the time?
B
I lose. I. Well, I don't. If someone asked me where something is, I couldn't tell you. But I have learned myself enough to know because the problem is I just. Just without thinking, toss things, set things down, move things here, there. Like, I don't. I'm not good about putting things in their place. I don't just throw. Like, my house isn't disaster, right? But I'm like, okay, I would have sat my keys on one of these surfaces.
A
Well, I knew where your keys were yesterday and you didn't exactly.
B
Oh, yeah, that. I don't know. I would have been looking for hours. I don't know why they were about outside with us.
A
Because you went out to get your sunglasses, is brought them back outside with you and set them down. When we started doing the real. I know this is how my brain works. I'll remember the dumbest details and the whole reason why.
B
Huh.
A
I'll read something seven times, and I'll be like, I can't process this.
B
I know. I'm the same way.
A
What is that?
B
I don't know.
A
No, literally, I'll read a sentence that is not like a hard sentence to understand. And I'm like, why can't I retain this in my brain?
B
And I'll read it over and over again five times. And it's like, it's still not registering. That's what's so frustrating. Again, as a kid, these are all bringing back, like, these core memories. My mom would be like, you have to read five pages. And I'd be like, well, in my world, that's like 30 pages. Because I have to read them over and over and over. I'll be reading and be a page and a half in and be like, oh, I have no idea what words I just read. That is the thing that should have been on this list. I feel.
A
I wonder if that's a concentration thing. Like if while we're reading, we're reading, but we're kind of zoned out because I've got a memory like a steel trap.
B
Me too.
A
And if I'm in it, I guess it depends on how I'm learning it. I'm more of a visual learner than like a reading learner. I will say that. But yeah, sometimes I can read it and I'm just like, I've got it. It's locked in there forever. And other times I read it and I'm like, what?
B
I'm an. I don't know if the word is. What's the word for hearing?
A
Like, auditory.
B
Auditory learner. If I can have a conversation with someone about something, it will stick with me. Me. I'll like if I can have a converse because.
A
Because then you're talking through concepts.
B
And when I'm reading something, my mind is thinking about all these different questions, and then I'm not really. They're not being answered because I'm just reading what's written without any discussion about, you know, And I'm sure everyone. It helps a little bit to be able to have a discussion, but it really is difficult for me. And when I was. When I was young, my mom would sometimes read things out loud to me just if I was really struggling with it. I could have read it over and over and over again. She'd be like, let me read it to you. And me hearing her read it even was easier for me to remember.
A
Right.
B
What it was. So it's so interesting.
A
Yeah.
B
And you. I think, because we, like, they didn't really address it the same way as they do now. You don't think about how it shows up as an adult. And now I can see all these places in my life where I'm like, well, I guess that wasn't just a kid thing.
A
You're like, nell read it to me.
B
Exactly. So. And anyways, I don't know. I think that it's interesting. And I was looking, as I was reading about this, it said that the reason a lot of us weren't diagnosed, like you said, is because it was just like, little boys were written off as being, like, hyper. But I didn't know it said presented a lot of times in little girls. Like you said, you would zone out as inattentive of adhd, where you're daydreaming, or it could show up as disorganization or struggle with focus, and you're just called shy or messy or lazy. And it's like, I was called flaky. Yeah, but go ahead. Why was I say, it feels good to, like, have more of a. To have an understanding of why you're not just a piece of. All that read to me as a kid was like, oh, I guess I'm a piece of.
A
Yeah, you're not flaky. I was called flighty. Like, oh, you're just flighty. You're not grounded.
B
Right.
A
But what was interesting was when I would dance, when I would go to dance class. So present, so in it. But guess what? My body was moving. Could remember the dances, no problem. And when I was, like, dancing a lot in high school, when I was a competitive dancer, it's so crazy how it translated over into my schoolwork. My grades improved exponentially because the more my brain was being challenged in dance class and the more I was remembering there, I had a photographic memory. So I would go home and I was taking, like. I went from being, like, on average, like a C student as, like, grade school to in high school, I was a straight A student on the honor roll, like, and taking AP classes and acing them, because as long as I took good notes, I could literally study the page. And I would remember exactly what my page looked like.
B
Oh, wow.
A
So when I sat down to take my tests, I would feel like I was Che. Because in my mind, I could see my pages of notes so clearly that I would just, like, answer questions, no problem.
B
Ace the test every time till the dyslexia kicks in.
A
Well, I didn't say I could spell the words right. I just said I could. I knew the answer multiple choice. But, yeah. Then when I stopped dancing so much, again, like, the memorization is not as strong as it used to be.
B
I wonder, like, because you talk about muscle memory and, for example, like, if I learn choreography to a song. I haven't done a lot of performances like that, but I've been in musicals and done that. Those lyrics and words and parts of that song will stick with me forever because the movement is also in my body, and they're connected. And it really does make sense to think that your muscle memory can support your, like, brain function and remembering things, too.
A
Yeah. See, what's interesting about that, though, is, like, I. I know. So girls that I dance with, they're like, oh, I could remember my dance when I was in third grade to blah, blah, blah, song. And I'm like, oh, no. The second the performance is over, let that one go. Yeah, so I won't. I mean, I might remember a step or two or something like that, but I'm not like, oh, yeah, it was it like.
B
No, I'm going to invent a school where. I'm just kidding.
A
Everybody has to.
B
Each semester is actually just, like, a big musical, and each scene are your different classes, and you each, like. Like. And you're working towards, like, getting ready for the midterms or. I didn't go to school, so I'm just throwing words out, like, semester, midterms, whatever, and. But I do feel like that could help a lot of kids who need movement. And, you know, I'm gonna make myself
A
sound really stupid right now. But that's just because.
B
What funny way to start a sentence?
A
No, because there's certain things, like, okay, like, when Dom was trying to learn the capitals of every state date, they taught it to him to a song. So if I ask him random ones, he can't necessarily tell you, but if he starts singing the song, he can sing the whole song. So I remember when we were learning. This is why I said, I'm gonna sound stupid. Pronoun, verb level. I don't know which one is which. I mean, I know.
B
I don't.
A
I know what a noun is, but, like, a noun. So I don't know which ones these fall under, but I'm gonna sing you the song.
B
Okay.
A
And it goes to row, row, row. Your belt. But this is how I remember. I learned it in the third grade. Am is R was word, do did have his head shall make him Mike Couldwood should be being Ben.
B
Wow.
A
I don't know what they are, but I sure did write them out when we were taking the test that day. What are they? Are they.
B
I don't know. I think.
A
I don't.
B
You didn't have to bring me into this. Are you asking? Are you checking?
A
Obviously, yeah.
B
We have to know. Our listeners have to know. I'm sure no one out there knows.
A
No, I'm sure they all know and it's just us, but whatevs. Like there's certain things we're good at. Exactly what is.
B
I'm the same way. And I'm going to top your your make yourself sound stupid and make myself sound really stupid.
A
Go ahead.
B
When something's alphabetical, I still sing my ABCs sometimes.
A
It's a verb, specifically a form of the verb to be. Okay. So learn. So they're verbs. There you go.
B
Not. But. Not. But they weren't action verbs. Right.
A
I just. I don't know.
B
Me either. I wouldn't have guessed.
A
Verb, first person singular, present tense of to be. This is also why I can't learn another language. Tell me how the sentence goes.
B
But also, though, to your. To the point of this. Like, I. I could tell you all the books of the Bible in order, but it's only because of a song.
A
You can. Wait, Say what?
B
There's 66 books in the Bible.
A
Okay.
B
And I could tell you all of them in order.
A
That's insane.
B
Yeah. Because of a song. And, and I've gotten good at just saying them. But hearing the song, like, like, I'll just say them monotone. But I'm actually like going through the song in my head. Yeah.
A
Yes.
B
And it really is a tool. So I'm saying life's a musical, baby.
A
Yep.
B
Jump on board. But I feel like for me, and the reason I wanted to. To talk about it is just I was thinking about how I really do on a regular basis. Reference. Like, and again, it's a self quote diagnosis like I've claimed. But also just like, okay, I'm experiencing it right now because I want to say ten things at once. Something that jumped in my head was, oh, I'm sorry. I accidentally turned these lights on and forgot to turn the overhead lights off. So I hope it doesn't.
A
Look, now you ruined our whole podcast.
B
We'll start over. Another thing we just Start and don't finish. No, it helps me. I actually do communicate specifically with Nell because sometimes he'll say something and I don't get it.
A
It.
B
Because my brain is someplace else and I. It helps me to just. Instead of, like, before I would go along or try to catch up or be like, wait, what I say, I'm really sorry. I'm having a hard time focusing right now. Can you repeat what you said?
A
Okay, that's good.
B
And it feel, it really feels like such a better way to live. Like, just being like, real with the fact that my brain sometimes is a little still out there on its own. I gotta reel it in and just be honest about it.
A
Like, it's on a different rock.
B
Like, I know you and I are sitting right here, but this was over there, far over there.
A
Happens more than, you know, while we're sitting here.
B
And then I'm like, sometimes I watch her podcast back, I watch our podcast back and I'm like, oh, my God, I didn't hear any of that. She said, not usually. I know, but you know how it is.
A
Yes, I'm sore
B
because we're the same. And so it says like, like acknowledging that you have those issues helps with personal relationships and everything. It just helps me function.
A
And here's what I was gonna say about it. Whether you're, you know, I know we're joking, light hearted, self diagnosed. But like, regardless, if you can just identify those things about yourself, like, you don't have to necessarily diagnose yourself with ADHD or something like that, but if you recognize, like, like, oh my gosh, I need to be in motion to think better or what? Like, just being aware of it in general helps you in life because it's like, oh, I've got this problem to solve. Okay, let me get up and move my body. Or if, you know, you're the person that procrastinates, you can try, like, force yourself out of it a little bit. Like, I know when it's something that's really challenging for me, I'll use social media as an example. Like, I'm not super creative when it comes to, like, reels and stuff like that. And I really don't watch trends or know what audio is. So when I feel like I need to do them, I always push it to, like, the very last thing to the point where I don't end up doing it, because it's the last thing that I'm gonna do because I have other things that are way more important. And by the time I get to all Those it's bedtime and I'm not gonna do it now and I guess I'll get to it tomorrow. So I do sometimes try to be like autumn, do the thing that makes you uncomfortable, but because that's the thing that's gonna take a little bit longer. And you know, once that's done, you can get to all these other things so fast. And so again, it's just being aware of yourself and how you operate and
B
what your patterns are. Because if you want, if you, if something isn't working for you, then you have to change your patterns. Like for me a really good example is I operate best if I work out in the first, the first thing in the morning or at least in the very first part of my day.
A
Yes.
B
And I always end up going through phases in life where I'm like, I'll get to it later and it's fine, it works out one day, I do it in the afternoon, I'm like, that was great, do it the next day. And then it gets more complicated, I start to get less consistent. I don't know where it belongs. And it becomes another out there floating task. Like the emails and this and that and, and it stresses me out and it's like, okay. Even though it isn't the most comfortable to me, I know based on my patterns that I feel better and more productive. And it actually helps me sort of reset my brain starting with movement in the beginning part of my day. And I just think that's how it's really helpful. Like you're saying when you know and you can change your behavior.
A
I have always been a workout first thing in the morning person I was getting up, brush my teeth, go downstairs, eat breakfast. Like that's what it was. Brush your teeth, go downstairs, eat breakfast, make my energize, do my workout for decade.
B
Yeah.
A
And in the last like year and a half, everything just with work shifted a little bit and I had a little more time in my days. And part of the reason I had to do that was cuz my days were so jam packed that it was like, okay, got to get it done. And then I started to have a little bit more flexibility in my days and also like I adjusted some of my nutrition with hormones and fasting window and okay, but I like to eat before my workout so I need to wait for my fasting window to end, blah, blah, blah. And I noticed that for like the last year my workouts have been, I mean I get them in every day but like you a floating target trying to be like, where is this gonna fit in?
B
Sometimes they're a drag.
A
Yeah. Because I hate working out in the afternoon and at night. Like, despise it.
B
Night's the worst.
A
And this last week, right before the damn time change, I was doing really good.
B
Good.
A
Wake up. Literally put my workout clothes on. I wouldn't even have my Matcha or anything. I would just go out to the gym, get my 30 minutes in. That's done. Now I'm going to go inside, have my Matcha, have my breakfast, blah, blah, blah. Because obviously with the app and stuff, like, I'm trying to populate my fitness app. So I have to work out for that.
B
Right.
A
Which, yes, it is a workout, but I need a little time that is just mine. Where the music is on in my ears. I'm not talking and queuing.
B
Totally.
A
I'm not making it about the people watching. It's about me. Doesn't have to be the longest one because I'm gonna get this other workout in each day because I'm filming stuff.
B
Yeah.
A
But I just need a little bit. That's for me.
B
Right.
A
And so that's what I had been doing. And then the time change happened, and that's kind of screwed me. The last three days. I've still gotten it in earlier in the day, but not as early as I'd like.
B
Yeah. And I just think that it's so good. Like, I don't. In my mind, these aren't proper definitions of the words, but patterns are things you can see that, like, you can study that happen. And then routines are something that you create for yourself because you see that that actually works for you better. And if I create a morning routine or I. I tell people when I'm coaching, and I think it's probably true for a lot of coaches. You know it, you share it, and then you look at your own life and you're like, okay, why? Well, you're. You need to start practicing more what you're telling others.
A
I do.
B
But I always say if you can lock down a morning routine and an evening routine.
A
Oh, solid.
B
And especially for myself, like, I know that I'll function better if I get good sleep, and I'm not gonna get good sleep if I'm up watching reality TV until 1am and I'm definitely not gonna follow my morning routine and get a workout in when I wake up.
A
Stop shaming me right now.
B
So anyways, I just think it's helpful to. To understand, you know, how your brain works and what can help you manage it.
A
I also do think too. Like when, you know, they say everybody gets the same 24 hours in a day. It's what you do with it. And that is really true. Like the people that are like crazy high achievers getting stuff done, it's because they're really locked into their routine from the time they get up till the time they go to bed. Like, there's no deviating from it. It's like, I know I'm in bed. At like, if you look at Mark Wahlberg, like he talks about his routine, he's in bed by like 7:30 or 8 o'cl at night because he gets up at 4 in the morning to work out. And it's like, I look at that and I'm like, well, can't you push it? But he's like, no, he's got 9 million other things going on throughout the day.
B
Right.
A
That's what he does. Okay. But he does not deviate from that. Like that is his. Kevin Hart's the same way. He talks about it all the time. Like his, he gets up and gets his workout in early. That's when it's happening.
B
Yeah.
A
I mean he does joke that sometimes, you know, he'll miss it, whatever. Or his like trainer will be there, like, where you at, bro? But these are people that have these set routines because they know, hey, I've got all this other work that needs to happen, so this has to happen here. And in order for the workout to happen at 4, I have to go to bed. I can't go down the rabbit hole of social media.
B
Right? Yeah.
A
They're probably also like a lot more at peace in their brain cuz they're not down those rabbit holes.
B
They have to like, it sounds to someone like me a little bit, if I'm totally honest, a little bit like a prison. Like, oh, you have to go to bed at 7:30 and then you get up at 4 and then what about.
A
I mean, that's a little much for me.
B
But, but, but for him it probably is so freeing.
A
Yes.
B
It gives him a break from having to make all these other decisions because he has boundaries in his life and I'm sure there are exceptions if he's going to.
A
Of course, like, yes, my.
B
But the exceptions aren't three times a week when a friend asks you to meet for dinner at 7:30 and that's usually your bedtime, for example. Right. You know, like, and that doesn't have to be your routine, but to have boundaries around your routine is just so freeing. Even though when you don't have those. It sounds like it would be restricted.
A
I said that all the time during 80 day obsession. The more laid out your plan is, the more freedom you have. Like, everybody would think, like, oh my God, it's restrictive. Or there's so much to track. And I'm like, no, no. The more organized you are, the more free you feel. Because everything is like, okay, bing, bang, boom, I'm on this timeline. And like, that feels so good.
B
Totally.
A
So I'm trying to get back to that, I think. I don't know. Was that still on our adhd?
B
Who's to say? Wait, what are we talking about? No, but I just want to say before we wrap up, I feel like we can relate to each other and a lot of people can relate to this. And I. I love that we get to just be real voices. And this podcast is supposed to be a space where we can just be totally real.
A
Yeah.
B
With y'. All about how we're feeling and what we deal with, but not. But. But also on the subject of self diagnosing, if you are facing anything that just feels debilitating and you need help, you should seek a professional medical. Professional advice. Go to your doctor, whatever it might be. And don't just rely on your self diagnosis. But if you're struggling in a. In the way that we've discussed about these kinds of things, starting with a routine I think is a great idea. So that's what I'm gonna do as soon as I get home.
A
Starting.
B
Starting tomorrow. Famous last words. Tomorrow never comes.
A
All right, you guys. No phone a friend today. Mostly because all you guys keep sending us are sex phone of friends. And we're fine with that.
B
But you can't. We. We will talk about other things too. We'll give advice in other areas.
A
So next week, phone a friend coming your way. Hit us up everything's perfect podcast gmail.com or.
B
That's right, you can check us out on Instagram at Everything's Perfect Official. And we'll see you later.
A
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Everything’s Perfect…Except Our Brains Have 47 Tabs Open
Podcast: Everything’s Perfect | Hosts: Autumn Calabrese & Donald Stamper | Date: March 31, 2026
This lively, candid episode dives deep into the experience of feeling mentally scattered—what hosts Autumn Calabrese and Donald Stamper affectionately refer to as “having 47 tabs open in your brain.” Through a mix of personal stories, humor, and real talk, they explore themes of self-diagnosed ADHD, multitasking, generational differences in diagnosing learning challenges, and strategies for managing overwhelmed brains. The episode is full of relatable moments, memorable quotes, and real-world advice—all wrapped in a friendly, self-effacing tone.
“If you knew what is happening in my brain at this particular moment and it's been happening all morning because there are so many things I have to get done… there’s so many file tabs open and they're running so fast.”
—Autumn [02:52]
“Our parents…were at work. They had no time to take us to get quote, unquote diagnosed for ADHD or anything else. They called me flighty as a kid.”
—Autumn [04:46]
“It’s not a disorder. It’s just a different way his brain works. It’s not that he can’t learn.”
—Autumn [07:26]
“I have to pace. Like today I was on that zoom call this morning and I got up because two minutes into the call, I'm like, the energy is going so fast in my body that I have to move so I can slow my brain and my words down.”
—Autumn [10:54]
“You open your phone to do one thing and 20 minutes later you're watching a video about penguins. That's also social media's fault.”
—Donald [19:33]
“We have absolutely no judgment or opinion about how someone deals with that in their own life... we're not experts.”
—Donald [13:01]
“People didn’t used to have in their pocket or the palm of their hand direct access for people to constantly be like, hey, hey, hey, hey.”
—Donald [28:49]
“It helps me to just… Instead of, like, before I would go along or try to catch up or be like, wait, what I say, I'm really sorry. I'm having a hard time focusing right now. Can you repeat what you said?”
—Donald [43:15]
“If you can just identify those things about yourself… being aware of it in general helps you in life.”
—Autumn [44:04]
“The more organized you are, the more free you feel. Because everything is like, okay, bing, bang, boom, I'm on this timeline. And like, that feels so good.”
—Autumn [51:36]
“We make plans and God laughs. Yeah, we should add to that statement. It's we make plans, God laughs and we cry—truth.”
—Donald [02:10]
“If he could give me the manual, that would be super helpful. Or swap out one of my guardian angels for an executive assistant.”
—Autumn [02:37]
“If you're struggling in the way that we've discussed about these kinds of things, starting with a routine I think is a great idea.”
—Donald [52:24]
“It sounds a little bit like a prison, like, oh, you have to go to bed at 7:30… but for him, it is so freeing.”
—Donald [50:53]
Friendly, irreverent, and openhearted, this episode reassures listeners they’re not alone in feeling overwhelmed or scattered. Autumn and Donald emphasize self-acceptance, playful self-awareness, and the practical power of routine—reminding us that “everything’s perfect... kind of!” Their unfiltered banter brings humor to everyday chaos, leaving listeners both seen and inspired to explore what habits work for their unique brains.
For more episodes and real talk, follow Everything’s Perfect on Instagram (@EverythingsPerfectOfficial) or email questions to everythingsperfectpodcast@gmail.com