Ep. 343 - Top Mindset Shifts for Manifesting Your Dream Career with Les of Balanced Black Girl

Summary

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EXPANDED Podcast Ep. 343

Top Mindset Shifts for Manifesting Your Dream Career with Les of Balanced Black Girl
Date: February 21, 2025
Hosts: Jessica Gill & Lacy Phillips (To Be Magnetic™)
Guest: Les Alfred (Balanced Black Girl)

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Episode Overview

This episode explores the practical and psychological mindset shifts necessary for manifesting your dream career, featuring Les Alfred, founder of Balanced Black Girl and recent full-time podcaster and entrepreneur. Les shares her journey of transitioning from corporate work to her creative passion, highlighting the inner work, incremental steps, and actionable strategies that made her leap both safe and sustainable. The discussion also delves into financial blocks, navigating rejection, honoring authentic work rhythms, and embracing evolving aspirations in entrepreneurship.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Les’s Background and Cultural Influences

• Affirming Upbringing: Les attributes much of her self-belief and willingness to try new things to her parents, who provided consistent positive affirmation and encouraged her to use her voice and foster creativity.
  • “I grew up hearing how smart I was and how capable I was kind of over and over. And I think that that definitely had a profound impact on me and my ability to believe in myself.” (13:13)
• Eldest Daughter Dynamic: She reflects on growing up as the eldest with a significant sibling age gap, identifying with certain only-child tendencies in phase one of her life. (15:49)

2. Astrology & Identity

• Astrological Profile: Les is a Leo Sun, Taurus Moon, Libra Rising. She discusses how, over time, she's grown into her Leo identity while maintaining strong Taurus traits.
  • “The older I get, the more I actually am resonating with my Leo sun...not dimming the shine that I am just meant to have and just letting it out there.” (10:01)

3. The Transition from Corporate to Creative Entrepreneurship

• Incremental Leaps: Les attempted the transition multiple times before finding lasting success, emphasizing the importance of timing and preparation over impulsive leaps.
  • “A door closing doesn't mean it's not possible for you. It means you need to find another door, or you need to find another way to get there.” (21:21)
• Building Safety Nets: Les spent years building savings, healing her relationship with money, paying down debt, and setting up business infrastructure to create a foundation for sustainable self-employment. (16:58–20:08)

4. Healing Financial Blocks & Money Mindset

• Conscious Earning & Spending: Les intentionally avoided lifestyle inflation after increasing her income, attributing this shift to inner work and understanding her relationship with money.
  • “I wasn’t looking for money to fill this void. And I think sometimes that's what gets people into trouble...” (22:02)
• Worthiness Work: She credits reading the book Worthy and doing inner exercises about income and value as pivotal in transforming her experience with money. (22:02–24:06)

5. Integration & Up-Leveling After Manifestation

• Adjusting to New Realities: Both Les and Jessica discuss the necessity of integrating new manifestations, understanding the practical challenges and adjusting identity post-success.
  • “There's that up level integration period of like, oh, whoa, this is my reality now.” (25:20)
• Demystifying the Dream: The gap between a dream reality and the present can feel profound, but is often more mundane and nuanced on arrival.
  • “The gap isn’t as far as you think...because it’s a lot more realistic and gritty and challenging and nuanced.” (26:37)

6. Navigating the Emotional & Practical Lulls of Self-Employment

• Seasonality of Business: Les’s first months post-corporate were challenging with business lulls and rejection, but her previous planning (savings, systems) allowed her to weather the storm creatively rather than out of panic.
  • “Having those safeguards in place...was key...because I was able to not operate from a state of panic...” (30:20)
• Adapting Working Style: Her full-time creative life required unlearning the “grind” mentality in favor of honoring her unique work rhythms and energy cycles.
  • “I actually do better with a little bit more rest and taking a little bit more of a methodical approach.” (33:33)
• Human Design Reflection: As a 5/1 Manifesting Generator, she embraces periods of high energy and equally deep rest, urging others to know their own energetic needs. (35:42–37:28)

7. Authentic Content Creation

• Boundaries & Depth in Sharing: Les shares deeply on certain topics (wellness habits, business behind the scenes) while maintaining privacy in other areas, arguing that authenticity comes from depth rather than breadth.
  • “What has really worked is going deep, but not necessarily wide.” (37:59)
• Helpful, Intentional Content: Les prefers to provide tangible takeaways with a touch of humor, centering the value for her audience rather than simply sharing private details. (41:24)

8. Evolving Identity & Expanding Aspirations

• From Founder to Investor: A transformative experience at a woman-founded startup inspired Les’s aspiration to become an investor, especially supporting underrepresented founders.
  • “I want to be able to fund businesses...who have really great solutions but may not be invested in in the same way.” (42:36–45:01)
• Living a ‘Different Lifetime’ Every Decade: Les sees each decade of her life as a distinct chapter focused on a new area, advocating for embracing evolution rather than chasing a monolithic “purpose.”
  • “I've almost started taking this approach of, like, living a different lifetime in each decade.” (46:35, 48:07)

9. Advice for Listeners: Claiming Your Calling

• Get Curious About Fear: Instead of shaming or ignoring fear, investigate it and proactively identify what would help you feel safe enough to take your next step.
  • “Get curious about what your fears are. Get curious about what is preventing you from claiming whatever it is that has been put on your heart.” (53:53)

10. Self-Reflection, Wellness, and Current Rituals

• Admiring Her Younger Self: Les commends her younger self’s willingness to be different and not care about external validation. (54:53)
• Current Wellness Routine: Les feels particularly strong and joyful in a varied movement practice—blending heavy lifting, Pilates, barre, and yoga, prioritizing enjoyment and releasing self-imposed pressure.
  • “I just have such a beautiful blend of the types of movement that I really love and letting myself enjoy it and have fun with it.” (57:51)
• Manifesting for the Next Year: Les is rebranding her podcast and aiming to manifest a dream living space in NYC, while also intentionally savoring her current chapter. (60:42)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Les on Rejection & Finding New Paths:
  “A door closing doesn't mean it's not possible for you. It means you need to find another door, or you need to find another way to get there.” (21:21)

• Les on Preparation and Safety:
  “It took about two and a half years of me really chipping away at those things...till I got to the point where I said, okay, I’m out of excuses...” (16:58)

• Les on Integration After Success:
  “We spend a lot of time wanting to get the thing, but we don’t necessarily think a lot about, okay, how will it feel once I have it and what is needed to maintain it?” (26:09)

• Les on Content Boundaries:
  “What has really worked is going deep, but not necessarily wide...the audience doesn’t really miss what I don’t talk about.” (37:59)

• Les on Evolving Identity:
  “I've almost started taking this approach of, like, living a different lifetime in each decade.” (48:07)

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Key Timestamps

• Manifesting & Mindset Transitions Begin: 16:31
• Addressing Money Blocks & Worthiness: 22:02
• Integration and Up-leveling After Manifestation: 25:20
• Seasonality of Business, Navigating Lulls: 30:20
• Knowing Your Energy & Working Style (Human Design): 35:42
• Authentic Content Creation Philosophy: 37:59
• Big Picture Aspirations (Investing, Decades): 42:36–48:07
• Advice for Listeners on Following Callings: 53:53
• Les’s Current Wellness Rituals: 57:51
• Manifestations for the Year: 60:42

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Final Words

Les’s journey provides a nuanced, pragmatic, and uplifting roadmap for anyone contemplating a major career transition or seeking to manifest a more authentic professional and personal life. Her blend of deep inner work, incremental practical steps, and a refusal to conform to external timelines empowers listeners to chase big dreams while honoring their unique rhythms and evolving aspirations.

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Check out Les’s work:

• Balanced Black Girl Podcast

Explore TBM tools & workshops for manifestation:

• To Be Magnetic™ The Pathway Membership

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“Get curious about what is preventing you from claiming whatever it is that has been put on your heart to do.”
— Les (00:00, 53:53)

Transcript

[Les]

Get curious about what is preventing you from claiming whatever it is that has been put on your heart to do. I think a door closing doesn't mean it's not possible for you. It means you need to find another door, outline what those obstacles are that you're experiencing and start finding solutions for them.

[Lacey]

From To Be Magnetic this is the Expanded podcast with your host Lacey.

[Jessica Gill]

Phillips and your host Jessica Gill as.

[Lacey]

The leading destination for neural manifestation. We dispel the Woo Woo in order to help you create real, tangible results based on neuroplasticity, psychology, epigenetics and energetics. Our goal is to normalize the practice of manifestation and empower you to get into the driver's seat of your life in order to manifest the experiences, relationships and things that most align with your authenticity. And by pressing play, the process begins.

[Jessica Gill]

Welcome back everyone to another episode of Expanded Jessica here. I'm so excited for today's episode because we have on Les from the Balance Black Girl Podcast. Les is an incredible podcaster, speaker, speaker, entrepreneur and she recently went full time into her podcast over the past year. This was a passion of hers for a really long time and she had been slowly building this really successful podcast while also maintaining her full time job. So today we're talking about how she made that transition intentionally. I know a lot of people right now are kind of questioning their purpose, their career, what path they're taking as how to get into that next level with money. Another thing we talk about in this episode today as well and really how to get your mindset clear when you have a big manifestation that you want to call in and you're not sure what steps you need to take in order to get there. Les really breaks that down for us today. I know you guys are going to love this one. It's good for anyone who's manifesting career changes, shifts in life manifesting big things that are going to take a little bit more time. She has very actionable and practical tips you can start to to apply now. And if you are one of those people who are feeling the transitions of this year, you are feeling the ebb and flow, the push and pull, the stripping, the transformation, the rock bottoming that's happening. I highly recommend you guys check out our new series Channeling with Lacy. Lacy taps into what are the manifestation energetics for this year and how can you utilize them, work with them to manifest your dream life on the other side. I was just talking fiance this morning about how right now it feels like the universe is both responding with tests faster and Responding with manifestations faster. It's almost like the space between our internal state, our limiting beliefs, our subconscious beliefs and reality is shorter because our tests are popping up. But then also on the flip side, when we are in alignment, when we are in authenticity, things are also move faster. And I've personally noticed it when I take those moments to step through fear, to do the thing that feels kind of new or uncomfortable, but I know I need to do them. I know that that is the route to my authentic self. That is the route to my highest self. When I take it, boom, manifestation comes through. So it's really interesting watching this play out in real time in my own life and friends lives, in the community's lives. And I'd be curious for you guys if you are going through that. We just launched two new deep imaginings, one called Super Stripped and one called Embodied, so we can start to work with this energy. So when you feel that stripping, when you feel that transformation, when you're pushed against your growth edge, just strip down to who are you at your core? What does your energy feel like? Your soul, what does that feel like On a real true level? That is what that DI is going to reconnect you with. It's going to remove the external validation, it's going to remove the urgency, it's going to remove the need to get XYZ now. It's like almost none of that matters for a second. Reconnect to your truth first and from that place, what action would you take? How would you operate in the world? How would you respond to this? How would you think about this dynamic? It's like basically opening up your expansion of what's possible for you tenfold. And then embodied is gonna take all of that energy, all of that true self energy and say, okay, how would you embody this? How would you bring this into fruition? Especially if you're listening into Les's episode today and you're feeling the call to start something new, put something new out there and you're not quite sure what depth and process looks like. Get intense clarity from this stripped and then embodied Di to know, okay, who am I in my true core essence and how would I then take action and operate in the world? And you guys can check out all of those new deep imaginings, the new channeling with Lacy inside the Pathway portal, free to members and go to our website to be magnetic.com to become a member or check out the links in the show notes.

[Lacey]

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[Jessica Gill]

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[Lacey]

All right onto the episode.

[Jessica Gill]

I am so excited to have on Less from the Balanced Black Girl podcast. I have been an admirer of your work for so long and just watching you crush it in podcasting and content creation and we actually got introduced in like a little podcasting cohort which was so fun and it was funny. I I have to share this story. Our producer Allison, who used to work for Dear Media, which your podcast is produced through. Her very last show at Dear Media was producing for one of your episodes that had to do with manifesting. And then she got the job. She found out that day that she got the job with us.

[Les]

I love that everything is so interconnected.

[Jessica Gill]

Yeah. And then we found out that you went to the TBM event in New York when we had our speaking tour last fall. I'm like, this. We were meant to meet. It was just about to happen.

[Les]

You know what's funny? Also related to podcasting is I went straight to that event from the photo shoot to shoot my last podcast cover art. So the. The photo of me in, like, the denim suit on the podcast cover, which, depending on when this comes out, the COVID might be different now. But what most people know to be my cover art, I literally was at a photo shoot, shot that, and then went straight to that event wearing that same outfit.

[Jessica Gill]

What? That's so cool. I feel very honored for that. That's amazing. Yeah. Okay, so we like to kick off with astrology. I know you're an astrology girly, too. So what is your sun, moon and rising sign?

[Les]

Yes, I'm a Leo sun, Taurus moon, Libra rising.

[Jessica Gill]

And how do you feel like they. Because so many people are like, what does that mean? How should I feel? What if that's my sign? How do you feel like you relate to those aspects of self?

[Les]

I think I have always deeply resonated with my Taurus Moon before I even understood what that was. And when I was younger and I would hear descriptions of a Leo, and it did not resonate with me because I thought that it was automatically somebody who was super outgoing and super charismatic and loved to be the center of attention. And I was always a lot more reserved and quiet, very much like to do my own thing. Was very into my habits and my comforts. And so when I learned that I was a Taurus moon, I was like, okay, that definitely tracks. But I'm finding that the older I get, the more I actually am resonating with my Leo sun. Particularly over the past few years, I've been. Been really just letting it out a little bit more and embracing being a Leo and not being, like, ashamed of it, I think. I don't know what it was. Maybe I just heard a lot of, like, anti Leo propaganda where I felt like, oh, this is a sign that people don't like, and everyone thinks that we're kind of annoying and attention whores, and that's not really me. But I am beginning to see More Leo in myself in terms of how I present and just not dimming the shine that I am just meant to have and just letting it out there.

[Jessica Gill]

I think for Leos, I've seen both ends of the spectrum with it, and I think it's the balance. The people that are wanting to take the spotlight from a place of just fear or insecurity or, you know, they're like, oh, well, they like me. I need to take up the spotlight. And then you have people who are like, I don't want to take that space. I don't want to stand in that room, or whatever. And it's like, okay, no, actually, you need to move more in the center, and this person needs to get more comfortable letting other people have the spotlight, too.

[Les]

Yep, exactly. I resonate heavily with that kind of second version you described.

[Jessica Gill]

Yeah. What is your cultural background and upbringing, and what is one thing from childhood or that upbringing that you think has made a big impact on who you are today?

[Les]

Yeah, so I'm originally from Seattle. Seattle, Washington. So I'm a West coast girl at heart. Even though I'm now living on the East Coast, I think I hold a lot of very classic eldest daughter traits. So I am an eldest daughter. I have a younger brother who is eight and a half years younger than me. So we have a pretty big age gap. And a pretty defining part of my upbringing was that I have really young parents. My parents were really young when they had me, which kind of explains the age gap with my brother. I think they just wanted to be a little bit more older and established and settled before they had another kid. And so a big part of my upbringing was kind of the three of us growing up together, particularly in that kind of first half of my childhood, before my brother was born, we really did kind of grow up together, figuring themselves out as they were figuring out how to raise a kid. But I do think in a lot of ways, I'm really amazed at how fantastic my parents are and were for being as young as they were and how much they instilled in me from a very young age, whether it was a prioritization of wellness, whether it was fostering my creativity, encouraging me to be myself, to use my voice. All of these things that are a big part of who I am today and how I show up in the world were really seeds that were planted from a very young age. And I just don't ever really have any memories of my parents telling me that there was something that I couldn't do or discouraging me from trying different things. I grew up in an environment that was really affirming, and not just affirming of maybe the superficial things, but I grew up hearing how smart I was and how capable I was kind of over and over. And I think that that definitely had a profound impact on me and my ability to believe in myself.

[Jessica Gill]

That, I think, is so powerful to hear, too, because anyone who's a parent or thinking about being a parent in one day, what are those things that you want your kids to be saying, you know, one day, if they're ever interviewed or asked by their friends a question like that, what are those. Those values? And I think that vein of, I do this with my dog a lot, words of affirmation. I'll be like, you're so smart, buddy. Like, you're so handy. He probably has no clue, But I'm practicing, you know, I'm like, okay, this is what I want to be able to communicate to my kids, seeing them. Even though I think it's so obvious, when you're a kid, if you don't get so many points of data that give you that, you know, if the school environment doesn't give you that, or peers don't necessarily give you that, at least in the home front, they can get a lot more data points of that positive affirmation of self and who they are.

[Les]

Yeah, it's something that I'm so incredibly grateful for, and honestly is something that my parents still do. I mean, I remember last year, I think I had gone home to visit my family for Mother's Day, and we were sitting at brunch, and I was sitting kind of on one side of my dad, and my brother was sitting on the other side, and he just out of nowhere is like, you know, I am just so proud of you guys and the people that you are, and I wouldn't change anything about either of you. Just keep being exactly who you are. And I, one, in that moment, felt so grateful to have a parent who still now, at my big age, is, like, affirming and saying those things to me, to both of us, me and my brother. But two, I was like, wow, there are probably so many people who really wish that they had either parents or people in their lives who said things like that and who accepted them for who they are. And I'm so, so grateful to have that. And it's something that I definitely don't take for granted.

[Jessica Gill]

So I also have a sibling that's eight years younger, so I feel like it's kind of rare. Do you Feel like you relate to some tropes of the only child. I've had this conversation with people where they're like, but you have a sibling. I'm like, yeah, but like, from 0 to 8, I had to figure out how to, like, play by myself and make up the games. I didn't have a buddy for those early years. Do you relate to that at all?

[Les]

I do, yeah. I mean, I definitely don't feel like an only child anymore, but I do kind of think of my childhood as phases. So there is just like phase one was the years before my brother was born, and there was like a very different dynamic. And then there was phase two after he was born, when obviously, you know, you bring a new human in the mix, there's going to be an entirely different. Different dynamics. So it's like before and after.

[Jessica Gill]

So interesting. I feel like we haven't done like a full deep dive episode on siblings before, but I feel like those dynamics are so interesting to pull apart. Okay, so you recently moved from a corporate position and you've been doing the podcast for five years? Six years.

[Les]

Yeah, six. About six and a half years.

[Jessica Gill]

Okay, so I think your story is like, I really want people to take away so many lessons from this, because we get the question all the time. I'm in corporate, but I have this passion. When do I jump off the cliff? What do I do? What was sort of your process in this shift, knowing you had this passion that you were working on that you were building? How did you know it was time to actually take that leap and just kind of clue us into what that journey looked like?

[Les]

Yeah, you know, I would say I had a few attempts throughout the years to take the leap that were not very successful and quickly had to go back to. To getting jobs over the years. I had one where I had left my corporate, corporate job and I worked in retail for a while while I worked in fitness and started digging into content and just found that, like, financially I was just creating more stress than I needed. So I ended up going back to corporate just to make more money and ease some of that stress. And then a few years later, I had a corporate job where I had gotten laid off. And I thought, okay, well, maybe this is a sign that I'm ready, so if I'm going to try and make this work. And then after a few months, it was just. It was just clear that I hadn't really found the version of business and self employment that were the right fit for me. And so I ended up going back to corporate after that. And so when I left my latest and my final, as I'm putting it, corporate job back in 2023, it was a very, very different scenario. A big part of it for me was finding a sense of safety and I really had to take time to create that safety for myself. So it was a multi year process to be able to get to that point. I had want to, you know, leave my corporate job to do creative endeavors since the moment I started. Like I graduated college in 2011, went into the corporate world in 2011 and very quickly was like, oh, this is not for me. And I was looking for ways out from that point, but it really wasn't until 2023 that I was able to truly make it work. And it was a long, long process to get there. I would say in 2021 was when I started really taking it seriously and making a real plan to leave my corporate job. And a big part of what I think made it work was I started addressing, okay, what exactly am I afraid of the previous attempts that I made? What was it about those scenarios that didn't work and how can I put some kind of safety nets in place for myself so that next time I try, this will be the thing. And so a lot of that looked like healing my relationship with money. And so I spent a lot of time just really digging into financial trauma that I had as well as learning more about money, setting up my business on the back end so that it actually functioned and operated like a business so that I was actually paying myself and I was running a company like a media company basically is what my business is. And so it was really in 2021 that I got really serious about that. I also spent a lot of time paying down debt because that was also something that I was nervous about is okay, if I'm self employ and you know, I have a few slow months and I am not bringing in as much money and I have this debt hanging over my head, how would I handle that? So I thought, okay, if I just really knuckle down and pay it off and that's just a non issue, then I will feel more safe. And so it took about two and a half years of me really chipping away at those things that were making me feel unsafe till I got to the point where I said, okay, I'm out of excuses, all of those things that I was worried about are no longer an issue and I now feel more comfortable taking making that step.

[Jessica Gill]

I think that's so, so smart to do it in those incremental steps and even those attempts at doing it and then kind of coming back and re centering. I think you almost need some of those. We call it like running into the fire. I can't take this anymore. I'm just gonna go all in on this thing. And oftentimes when people do that and it doesn't work out, they're like, I wasn't destined for this. And I always say to them, like, if it is a soft whisper, if it is that calling, if it is that desire, you're not not meant for it. It wouldn't still be coming through to you if it wasn't meant for you. It's just the timing. It's clearing those. Those limiting beliefs, those blocks, those money blocks, whatever that is. It's maybe a little bit of different action, maybe connecting to your authenticity or your intuition about, like, a different path to go about it. But it doesn't mean it's not meant for you. A door closing is not a welp, okay, I guess I'll go home then. It's like, no, keep going. It's fortifying you. It's preparing you for the path ahead, that you're going to need all of these life experiences and shifts and turns and how to navigate them in order to be in the best mindset, in the best energy to then take that leap. Like you did in 2023.

[Les]

Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I think a door closing doesn't mean it's not possible for you. It means you need to find another door or you need to find another way to get there. Maybe there's another key that will unlock the door. I think it's just an invitation to look at it from a different perspective, try something differently.

[Jessica Gill]

Something you said about during that chapter. You had increased your income, but you didn't increase your spending. A lot of people, when they get that extra paycheck or their bonus or their salary raise, they're like, cool, now I can go on that extra vacation, or now I can start going to that workout class once a week instead of once a month. How did you intentionally go about that shift?

[Les]

Yeah, it was really hard because it was very, very tempting. On one hand, the timing of it was fortunate because it was during the height of the pandemic. I had experienced a pretty significant jump in income in 2020, like the second half of 2020. And part of it was lucky because it was like, I'm making more money and I don't. I can't go anywhere, and there's nowhere for me to go. Spend it. So it. I really had had to kind of pause and take a beat. But also another part of it was me experiencing more income. Kind of came at the end of doing a lot of work. I remember in 2020 when I had gotten that, like, I'd gotten a pretty significant raise from my corporate job. At the time I was reading this book. It's called Worthy Worthy. And I think the subtitle is like, boosting your self worth to increase your net worth. And it was a really great resource. I think if anybody is working on their relationship with money, definitely check it out. That book has you really go through a series of just exercises laying out how much money you want to make and really helping you work through a lot of money issues. And I remember the morning that I had kind of finished the book and did the last journal entry of that book. I logged on to work that morning, had a meeting first thing with my manager, who told me I'd been promoted and I was going to get a 40% pay increase. Like, the morning I finished that book, it was a wild, wild experience. But because that pay increase came after I had just done all of this work, I also found that I wasn't looking to increase my spending because I wasn't looking for money to fill this void. And I think sometimes that's what gets people into trouble, is maybe they have some previous money trauma where they went without or they feel like being able to spend a certain amount of money or having certain material things will give them this validation or something to prove. And that's where people can fall into that trap. Versus I started making money on the other side of confronting those things so that it wasn't really an issue anymore because I had processed it by the time the money came.

[Jessica Gill]

I mean, that's so huge. There's also different levels at which you get to certain rungs in finances that different things need to be peeled away. It's almost like you have to get comfortable in the spending and in the receiving, how you utilize the money once you have it, and being open to infinite portals coming in where it could come through. At least for me, I've noticed where I feel safer in one area. Like, maybe I feel more comfortable spending on this or giving to that. It's able to come through here easier. And I'm like, oh, whoa, okay. There's this, like, connection between the two things. Not saying, give away all your money and then you're just gonna get all of it. But it's like a very subtle dance of what is is Your unique fear with money and how can you step through that fear in order to then have the abundance come through on the other side?

[Les]

Yeah, I think that that's so important to understand for sure. And it's something that I'm still working on. I feel like with each new level, kind of to your point, there's always something new to uncover and there's always a new fear. Not having money is really hard. And then also when you get a little bit, that's also really scary. It's like there's always something.

[Jessica Gill]

Of course, 100%. I so am on that journey with you as well. Even getting to different milestones in career or with home or family or friends or things that I think that if you've had on your manifestation list or on your goals list for a long time, and then it comes in, there's that up level integration period of like, oh, whoa, this is my reality now. Like, how do I relate to. To this new reality? How does my identity shift or does it not shift at all? You know, can I detach my identity from this and just enjoy this experience? That's such a. Another layer to the manifestation work that when people first start it, they don't realize you're gonna get what you want. You're just gonna feel a lot differently once you've arrived there. It's not gonna feel quite like, you know, your inner child might have thought that whole journey was gonna go.

[Les]

Yeah, I think we spend a lot of time wanting to get the thing, but we don't necessarily think a lot about, okay, how will it feel once I have it and what is needed to maintain it, and what are the new challenges that are also going to come with having this thing? It's something that's really important to understand because I think it helps kind of mitigate some of that shock value that we can get once our manifestations come in.

[Jessica Gill]

Yes, well, and it demystifies it too. Like we have this teaching the blind spot archetypes. We talked about it on tour, actually. And I definitely so identify with this dreamer archetype, which is someone who kind of has this fantasy of how perfect and amazing. You know, maybe it's from fairy tales growing up or whatever, but everything is just rainbows and butterflies. And the reality of life is it's a lot more challenging and nuanced and gritty and hard and all the things. So oftentimes when you are putting that goal or that manifestation or that pivot in your career, from corporate to your dream creative passion on a pedestal, sometimes you are not understanding that the gap isn't as far as you think because it's a lot more realistic and realistic in the oh yeah, once you have that, you're still gonna have to pay bills on your business, you're still gonna have to do taxes, you're still gonna have to do all these things that you would do if you were at corporate, you know, so it's just like all these little things that we don't realize can almost demystify it and put us on a more similar playing field to whatever we're calling in.

[Les]

Absolutely.

[Jessica Gill]

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[Les]

Yeah, so I quit my corporate job in December of 2023. In 2023, I was experiencing all of this opportunity and all of this, this growth. And then I quit my job. And then in early 2024, it was like, okay, the brand deals were a little bit slower. Okay, the podcast numbers are not as high as they once were. Okay, my inbox is not really popping off the way it once was. I'm experiencing a lot of rejection and there was a moment of like, what have I done? But what helped me get through that was that work that I had done for the years leading up to going full time. I had put safeguards in place where I had a certain amount of savings and cushion to help me with slower months, which I ended up needing kind of right away. I had really well oiled processes in my business and in my podcast production process so that I didn't have to be as in the weeds at that time. And I was able to kind of work on the business side of things and create more opportunities for myself outside of what I was doing to help kind of generate some business. And so by Q2, things had started getting a lot better and had thankfully turned around. And I ended up having a really lovely first year in business despite those first few months. But really having those safeguards in place that I created for myself was key to making that happen. Because I was able to not operate from a state of panic or from a state of almost like desperation. I was able to kind of put my head down and strategize to figure out what was going to be next.

[Jessica Gill]

What do you feel like was helpful to reset that mindset shift? Right? To go from like, okay, I just jumped off this cliff. I'm excited. Also, the energy at the top of the year is so exciting. You're like, I'm excited. Here are my goals. Let's hit the ground running. Like, boom, boom, boom. I was listening to one of your episodes and you were like, I got sick. I wasn't hearing back from people. I was getting ghosted by these people. I wasn't finding the managers I wanted. Everything was just like pulling down for a second. And I think a lot of people are experiencing that. The top of this year as well. Having that momentum, feeling so excited and then it's like one thing after another in all of our own individual, like Achilles heels is kind of like gnawing. How did you, instead of saying like, oh God, let's panic. What are the things we need to do to protect ourselves? Yes, you had this cushion in the safety net, but it's also the mindset is so important so you can actually be creative and like, okay, what do we want to create? What do we want to do? That's actually going to help you out of it.

[Les]

It for sure. I love that you mentioned me getting sick because that was actually like, a big part of it. So for folks listening at the end of 2023, like December 2023 or very beginning of January 2024, I had this idea in my head of like, okay, I'm full time now. I'm just gonna go like balls to the wall. I'm gonna hit it super hard. I'm gonna hustle, I'm gonna grind. I'm here. And during those first couple of days, my aura ring was like, like, you're showing some signs of strain or like your temperature is a little higher than usual. You should take it easy. And I was thinking, like, no, I'm in my luteal phase. That's why my temperature is high. Like, I feel fine. I don't have time for this. I'm full time now.

[Jessica Gill]

I've gotta.

[Les]

I've gotta hit it. And then literally the next day, I was on my butt with. I don't know if I had the flu, what it was. I was super sick that first week of going full time, and I actually ended up having to be in bed, cancel all my podcast recordings. I wasn't really able to do anything, which was kind of a. A, a metaphor for me really needing to slow down. I had this idea in my head that being full time meant that I was going to hit the ground super hard and just go, go, go. And what I've found over the past year is kind of the opposite has been true in terms of what's best for me. In terms of work, I don't really work that well. Pounding the pavement super hard. I think for some people, that can really work for them, but I actually do better with a little bit more rest and taking a little bit more of a methodical approach and being a bit more thoughtful in your slow. In how I approach my work. And so it was kind of learning that lesson. I also think I had to learn the seasonality of the business that I was in, because even though I'd been running my business, I'd been doing it as kind of a side hustle, and I hadn't really, because I had the safety net of my corporate job. I just wasn't as cognizant of seasonality and kind of the peaks and valleys naturally of being in the business of content, what those look like. And so it's actually very normal in January, in February for people in the content space to experience a bit of a lull because brands are figuring out their budgets. You know, people aren't consuming content as much. It just naturally is a bit of a low. I didn't know that before and I felt a little bit more sensitive to it when I was first full time and that was all I was focusing on. But then I learned the peaks and valleys of the year when things pick up and then when things slow down. And I learned how to tailor my work workflow to that instead of panicking during those low moments.

[Jessica Gill]

So, so important. And also just what kept like screaming out to me as you were saying that, like learning your working style, learning yourself, learning your authenticity. What works for you is going to be your unique route through whatever pitfall or ebb and flow that you happen to be in. That is the medicine and connecting that. I'm so curious. Do you know your human design?

[Les]

Yeah, I'm a 5:1 manifesting generator.

[Jessica Gill]

Interesting. Okay, cool. So the manifesting generator. Yeah. So many people think the generators manifesting generator generator is just go, go, go all the time. And I'm a generator. But I've learned through different sessions with people that they actually do need rest. They need to rest just as much and intentionally. And it's really important to have those check ins. Like someone gave me feedback that was like, you shouldn't be working heads down work for more than two hour chunks at a time. You have to come back up to air, get re inspired by the world around you and then you can take that energy back to your work. But if you were heads down working more than two hours, you have surpassed your authentic energy giving limit. And now you're heading into burnout zone. And I was like, oh my gosh, that feels so true. Because that is where my energy did. That is where I'm like feeling like I'm forcing and I'm running on adrenaline to just finish the task instead of let me take that intentional pause outside reset. Look at the bees, look at the nature. And then I can come back in and be like, wow, okay, cool. Let's get this done.

[Les]

Yep. I've had to learn super similarly. I think in true manifesting generator form, I have all the energy in the world when I'm really lit up about something and when I'm not, I got absolutely Nothing. And there's like, no forcing me to do it. And I also had to learn how important it is for me to, like, exhaust my tank and then refill. It is like very manifesting generator. And I'm still kind of learning how to work with those ebbs and flows, especially just with creating my own schedule and dictating how I work. But it's been really, really interesting to observe myself in that way.

[Jessica Gill]

Okay, so you have been creating content for a long time. And I think there's a lot of people in our community who are either creating content for their businesses, whatever that may be, or they just personally feel called to be sharing more online, or they have a message they want to share, or they're curious about getting into that space. How do you balance sharing parts of yourself? How do you decide what you're going to share, how much and how often you're going to share? What does that look like from an authentic check in place?

[Les]

So for me, what has really worked is going deep, but not necessarily wide. So there are a handful of things that I will go super deep in that I will share anything that anybody wants to know. And then there are other topics that I just, like, don't really share at all. So some of the things that I am willing to go all in on sharing is obviously a lot of my wellness habits. I really, even though I. I consider myself more of a lifestyle creator now, I really started in wellness. And people. People want to know what I'm doing. They want to know what workouts I'm doing and what workout clothes I'm wearing and what supplements I'm taking. And so when people ask those things, I will tell you every speck of a detail that you want to know. People are also really curious about the business of podcasting. So in terms of podcasting behind the scenes and how I do things and how an episode comes to be and why I have certain guests on, like, I really love sharing those stories. The episode that I just released yesterday, the day before we recorded this, I had an amazing guest, Dr. Tama Bryant, whose work I have really admired. And so to promote the episode, I got on my Instagram stories, and I was telling people, like, this is when I was introduced to her. This is how much her work means to me. I've been listening to her for years, and here's how she helped me. And now I had the opportunity to have her on my platform. So I go really deep into that so that the audience feels really connected to the stories that I'm sharing. And it feels really necessary for people to have the full context of the things that I like to share with them. But I don't necessarily think that they need to know every detail of like a date that I went on or every detail of what I talk about with my friends when we're having a girls night. In terms of wit, like, those are the things that I don't really get too far into. But because I do go all in and I go really deep on the things that I am willing to talk about, the audience doesn't really miss what I don't talk about.

[Jessica Gill]

That makes so much sense. And it also feels like you almost have your version of an authentic code for your content. These are the pillars that feel most like me in this space. I feel most excited to share about them. I'm open to share about them, and it's totally fine to focus on those, those pillars. In fact, it'll probably connect you with your dream audience who wants to find you even faster and even better because you are focusing and doubling down on those things that you feel called to share about through that vein. That's one thing I think a lot of people feel the pressure to do in putting out content is like, I have to talk about everything or I should examine all aspects of my life life. And there are probably some people where that truly is authentic to them. No stone left unturned might be their authentic code. That just might be their truth, but it's not going to be everyone's. And one person was like, oh, you know, I have to share in this way and have all this lifestyle stuff. I'm like, if you don't feel genuinely lit up by sharing any of your lifestyle and you just want to educate on, like how to massage the face and do this, you know, facial sculpting, double down on that. What are the other ways that you can teach that and instruct that and talk about that in such a new way? There's no one size fits all with any of this stuff. It's a playground of anything. Just giving that permission to anyone. Even if it's not content creation in your art form. What are those pillars that feel so true to you?

[Les]

Exactly. And it's something that I really like is I like for my content to be helpful. I like there to be a takeaway. I like like for there to be a tangible takeaway, but also with a bit of humor. Like, I'm very sarcastic, I like to joke around. I'm constantly sharing things, sometimes in a jokey manner. But there's Often something to be taken from it versus if it's just random tea about my personal life that people do love because they love to be nosy, there's not really a tangible takeaway there that's going to help somebody. So if it's not helping somebody either be healthier, live their life more intentionally, or just maybe give them a laugh, because I feel like we all maybe need to laugh a little bit more right now, then I'm like, yeah, the Internet probably doesn't need to hear it.

[Jessica Gill]

Yeah. And they can find it somewhere else too, right?

[Les]

There's so many people who love sharing stuff like that.

[Jessica Gill]

100% talk about your passions and the aspect of your authenticity. That's a founder, that's the CEO, that's the businesswoman. Now you're starting to launch products and have your journal and your guide for the year. But what are some other aspirations in that? And how are you sort of balancing this new sort of Persona that's coming lit up and online in so many different ways with everything else?

[Les]

So I didn't go into too much detail about the different work experiences that I had. And honestly, I won't bore everybody with like a rendition of my LinkedIn profile. But one of the jobs that I had while it was incredibly challenging while I was in it, that had a really profound impact on me is at one point I worked for a very early stage startup that was a woman founded company, but also through that company, it really served other women founders. And so that really opened me up to this world of not only women creating these really amazing businesses that solved problems. But I also learned so much about venture capital because the company was fundraising while I worked there and understanding all the different things that go into it. And so it just exposed me to this world that I thought was really fascinating of understanding, well, what makes a business successful? What do investors look for in businesses? Who decides what business gets invested in and what business doesn't? And I remember asking really tough questions, even though I was just a social media manager at the time. I was asking tough questions even some of the investors weren't asking of our company. That needed to be considered. And I thought, okay, I want to be able to do that one day. I want to understand the mechanics of how this works and I want to be able to fund businesses, particularly of women and underrepresented people who have really great solutions but may not be invested in in the same way. And so that's a really big aspiration of mine in the future, is to step into more of an investor role because I've been on the other side of being a part of a company that is growing from investment. And so a lot of what I'm doing now is like preparing myself for kind of that next stage in my career. Hopefully it's a goal of mine in my 40s to do more of that is really understanding how it works. So understanding how founders operate and how do companies come to be and understanding entrepreneurship from really a high growth perspective. Although I don't necessarily want to be the founder of a startup, I would love to eventually invest in that. And so I am doing kind of some identity work around, learning more about that space so that hopefully in my next, the next act of my career, I can better support it. And so I'm kind of bringing my audience along on that journey as well, of not just seeing me as like less the wellness girly, but also less the businesswoman, less the thought leader. These are all identities that I'm hoping to take on in the coming years. And I don't necessarily know how I'm going to do that, but I'm bringing my community along as I figure it out.

[Jessica Gill]

What I love so much about this, and this is like also classic manifesting generator energy too. Just like getting excited about all the things. Yeah. But the permission to let yourself grow and evolve in the like most organic routes, the way that you can just identify and see like something in me lit up by that and tomorrow you're not like, cool. That means I should throw away everything I'm doing and I should only focus on this thing and that should be my North Star from now on. You're like, no, actually what I'm doing right now is perfectly helping me get to the level to also do this at the same time. And I think it's one of the like most underrated little hacks. As you're going about goal setting but having multiple things that are taking your energy, that are separate lanes. If you put all of your energy into like one thing, you're gonna have a lot more pressure on that thing to be everything, to give you everything, every piece of identity or support or financial status or success or everything. But if you're like, well, I'm a podcaster and I do content creation and I do this and I'm a public speaker, Boom. Now you have all these different verticals and then you're now adding another layer into that. You don't have to drop everything and go into it full force. You're actually going to be. And that's kind of this theme of so much of what you've done so exceptionally in your career, but, like, taking it one step at a time and allowing those little pings, those little hits of inspiration to pepper in and then start following them bit by bit.

[Les]

Yeah, I think a lot of us tend to feel like we have to find one thing and stick with it forever. And I used to feel that way, too. And I felt so unfulfilled in my career because I thought that I had just this one singular purpose that was going to be a job. And when I just find that perfect job, I will be so perfectly fulfilled forever. And now I'm realizing I don't think that there is just one thing that necessarily everybody is meant to do, especially me as a manifesting generator, because I'm a little all over the place. But I've almost started taking this approach of, like, living a different lifetime in each decade. This is actually a thought that I had that I articulated for the first time earlier today, but I really liked. It is like having a different focus and kind of a different lifetime for each decade of my life. So my 20s were really about me getting into wellness, creating that foundation of learning how to take care of myself physically and mentally, and just exploring and learning a lot about myself through doing all of these different jobs. My 30s have really been about going in on creation and building and learning how to run and grow my own business. And then I really want my 40s to be a lifetime dedicated to investing in other people, kind of investing in that next generation as I talked about, but also just fully pursuing creative endeavors without worrying about the numbers or how they are. Like, I want to write fiction and not worry about it being a New York Times bestseller. Like, I just want to create and invest in other communities. And I'm excited for each decade to be kind of its own mini lifetime.

[Jessica Gill]

I love this. So you have so many decades and chapters and seasons to look forward to. We have a deep imagining, that launch called Stripped, where it pulls away all these layers of identity and, like, really connects you to your authenticity at the root of it. And, like, what does that feel like? Like, and you connect and, like, speak to that energy a little bit. And I was doing it this morning, and the message, one of the questions is, like, okay, from this place, what does this energy say about your purpose, your calling, your gifts, all of that? And the message that kept coming up for me was, like, it's not a thing. It's the energy in which you do everything. It's the energy of your curiosity, of Your excitement, of your joy, the things that that feel like that are your purpose, are your calling. It's not a check mark box. It could be a million different things. But all you have to worry about is following what gives you that energy and then taking steps to get to that. And I was like, oh, that makes so much sense. Like, it just felt so much more true and clear than, you know, we try to like bring it down to like this very. Oh, my purpose is s. And it's like, what if your purpose is how you use your energy of joy and what you feel that about, you know, and that's literally all your purposes. You don't have to worry about the 20 steps ahead. Just focus on the joy in the right now.

[Les]

I love that so much. I'm currently working with an executive coach right now and we're doing a lot of work around kind of figuring out my strengths and kind of zones of genius. And something that we have narrowed down on is that like, storytelling is a really big theme in my life and in so many things that I've done, it's been storytelling and also in a lot of the things that I aspire to do at storytelling. And so yes, today it looks like hosting a podcast and creating content, but tomorrow it could be writing books and having those books turn into movies or producing things and finding new ways to tell stories. And so I think when we allow ourselves to be a little bit more flexible in the how the what becomes a lot more clear.

[Jessica Gill]

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[Les]

I would say get curious. Get curious about what your fears are. Get curious about what is preventing you from claiming whatever it is that has been put on your heart to do. And then get really clear on what will help you feel more safe. Because I think for a lot of us, safety continues to be something that is a factor in terms of being held back by this fear. So understanding what is it that is making you feel unsafe in this moment and then how can you go about getting that safety? Whether that's getting help from other people, whether that's finding a way to create that sense of safety in yourself, or creating those safety nets. Outline what those obstacles are that you're experiencing and start finding solutions for them.

[Jessica Gill]

What is one thing from your younger self that you really admire? You know, whether it's a teenage, younger, inner child self, maybe it's 20 something self. What is something you really admire about them? And then what is something you wish you could share with them?

[Les]

Something that I really admire about my younger self was she didn't care if other people didn't get it yet. I became super interested in wellness when I was in college. And a lot of the wellnessy things that are trends now are things that I was really interested in when I was younger in terms of getting really into strength training and prioritizing protein and caring about my gut health. These are things that I was doing in 2010, 2011. No one around me was talking about it. Nobody else cared. They thought that I was weird, they thought that I was crazy. But I knew that it was good for me and that it felt really good. And I didn't care if other people didn't get it or when I first started creating content. Like I remember I had friends who would like mock me and think that it was silly. And I didn't care that they didn't get it because I got it and it felt good to me. And so I didn't let other people. Limiting beliefs casts a shadow of what I thought I could do. So I think that's something that my younger self, I'm really proud of my younger self for that. I think what I would tell my younger self is to just not put so much pressure on herself to figure it out that she's not supposed to have the answer to everything. She's actually supposed to be exploring and learning as she goes. And I think if she can embrace that, she will have so much more peace.

[Jessica Gill]

Yeah, that pressure to have everything by a certain timeline. It's kind of wild, the intensity of it. And then you're also faced with the fact that. I think you said this on a podcast, though, like, for you, think of the generation before us or even our parents generation. Yes, they had certain milestone things that you think about, kids, family, house, whatever that is, by a certain time, but they also didn't have the breadth of opportunities. Even thinking of that, how many more opportunities do you have now that may be occupying your time? Or you might actually want to prioritize those opportunities over some of the things you know, instead of feeling bad that you're not at a certain milestone that's completely arbitrary and set by societal standards anyways, check in what you actually want to be doing right now. And if that is the career or the hobby or the passion over the home or the family or whatever, great. Enjoy that for this chapter. That was so smart. I love that perception you had on there.

[Les]

Thank you. Yeah. I think a lot of us put so much pressure on our 20s in particular as being the decade that we have to figure everything out. And we beat ourselves up when we don't squeeze multiple decades worth of lived experiences and knowledge and know how into one decade. Your 20s are not for figuring everything out. Your 20s are for learning, for gaining life skills and. And making as few permanent decisions as possible.

[Jessica Gill]

Just because you're such a wellness girly, what is your routine right now? What are the things that you're, like, loving, that you have part of your sort of habit stack or things that you're just, like, starting to incorporate, that you're like, this is feeling so good.

[Les]

Yeah, I would say I'm feeling so good in my movement practice. I also had a background as like a personal trainer and fitness instructor. And, you know, in that story I told earlier, like, that fitness career was kind of woven in there, and I've done everything under the sun. I've been a hardcore weightlifting girly. I've been a hardcore yogi. I've been a Pilates princess. I've been a runner who, you know, does all these races. I've done it all. And these days I feel like I just have such a beautiful blend of the types of movement that I really love and letting myself enjoy it and have fun with it. And I'm just feeling, like, really strong and probably better than I've ever felt. So I'm really, really enjoying my movement practice. Lately, for me, that's looked like about. About two days of challenging, lifting heavy weights, about two days of Pilates. One day a bar and maybe a yoga class thrown in there. If I'm, like, feeling really energized that week and then just letting that be it. And I've been feeling really good in my movement.

[Jessica Gill]

I am taking that in because one of the things that I've really wanted to focus on and manifest this year is, like, feeling way better in my health and my energy and my body and my strength and all those things. So hearing that a movement practice can feel really good. I'm just. I'm taking that in.

[Les]

Yeah. I've also. I think part of what's helped is I. Because I was a fitness professional, I put a lot of pressure on myself to come up with all of my workouts and design this perfect routine. And these days, I just take classes for all of those things. I've completely taken the pressure off of myself to come up with all of it. And I'm letting myself be coached, and I'm letting myself be instructed. And one, not only has it been good because I've been challenging myself having other people hold me accountable, but two, it frees up so much brain space. You know, having a business, I make decisions all day. So if I can go be told what to do for 45 minutes to an hour while I'm moving, it's been so, so good for me.

[Jessica Gill]

I love that I'm someone who, like, loves to work out at home with, like, an app. I'll take myself through a program, but I have been getting, like, a loose pink to go outside the home and like, maybe be around community, have more of that sense of. Of accountability. So I will have to follow and honor that one a bit more.

[Les]

It's. I feel very similarly. For a long time, I would just go work out by myself, you know, in the gym in my apartment building. And it was a very, like, solo experience where I would follow things on apps. And last year, my birthday gift to myself, I ended up gifting myself a membership to kind of a fancy gym. And it's expensive, so that makes me go. But it actually has been really good for me. I have made new friends there. It's been, like, a good sense of community for me. I meet listeners at the gym all the time, which is also really cool. So it's actually been, like, a really good, good thing for me.

[Jessica Gill]

What is one thing you are manifesting over the next year or one thing that you have on your heart that you're excited to connect with?

[Les]

So I'm rebranding my podcast, which will be coming out later this year, and I'm just really excited for the brand to kind of grow and evolve into its next iteration. There's part of me that is a little scared because it can be scary to do something totally different, but it is. It's been a strong ping that I've had for a long time, and I'm finally just going with it and trusting that the right people will follow. So that's something that I'm really excited for. And then something else that I am really calling in for this year is just being able to tend to my space a little bit better. I moved to New York City, which has been such a great experience, but I moved into, like, a really tiny apartment to keep my expenses low as I kind of navigated that first year of entrepreneurship. And so later this year, when my lease ends, I'm really calling in my dream beautiful space where I have a lot more space to live, to work, to entertain. And so that's something that I'm. I'm looking forward to calling in before the end of the year.

[Jessica Gill]

Oh, my gosh. It is worth the wait, I'm telling you. I just went through that journey last year with going from a small apartment into a house, and it was game changer, game changer. Your environment just makes such a big impact. But I will also say, enjoy all of the time you have in the space that you're in, because there, it's like you were saying the seasons and the decades in different spaces. Enjoying this moment, this chapter, was actually the thing that got me to manifest the space faster. I'm sure you're already doing this, but I was very much like, get me to the next space. And I really had to be like, okay, what do we have here? What do we love about this neighborhood? What do we love about of, you know, in these little micro moments? And it looks like you're already enjoying all of those things, but that was definitely a journey for me.

[Les]

No, I really appreciate that reminder, though. I did need it, because there are some days where I'm like, oh, this apartment is so small. I can't wait for a bigger one. You know, I live in a studio. I'm like, oh, I can't wait to have a bedroom, like, all these things. But I. I am definitely going to miss this. This little space once I'm not in it. So that was a good reminder.

[Jessica Gill]

Well, thank you so much, Les. I'm so excited for the rebrand. Be sure to check her out if you haven't been listening to her podcast yet. It's amazing. So many helpful tips and insights and teachings and just incredible guests. So you do such a good job. So thank you again for coming on.

[Les]

Thank you for having me. I really loved our combo.

[Jessica Gill]

I hope you guys enjoyed that episode today and and why we have you. If you have another 10 minutes, 15 minutes, 20 minutes, we encourage you to pop into your TBM app and do a deep imagining. You are already in a hypnotic state. You've been listening to something. Maybe you've been listening and driving. Listening and doing some house chores. Listening, going for a walk. Put in that DI and get that subconscious reprogramming in. If you've listened to this episode today and you want a DI that's specifically suited for career, for money, for mindset, any of those things, hop into our DI playlist and I would go into the confidence boost, really connect with your authenticity right now and figure out what is from that place. Or if you really want an immersive experience, I would check out the channeling lacing portal and do the strip DI or the embodied DI that embody DI is going to be my reinforcing DI for the next couple weeks.

[Les]

So I hope you guys enjoy Sam.