Finally—your go-to episode to share with friends and family that breaks down TBM’s method is here! In this episode, Lacy and Jessica dive into How to Manifest—the new book that distills the To Be Magnetic method into a clear, accessible, and deeply impactful guide. Whether you’re a long-time Pathway member or new to manifestation, this conversation unpacks the formula that’s helped tens of thousands transform their lives. Lacy shares the book’s unexpected origin, why it feels like a collective download from the brand’s wisdom, and how its analog format expands your subconscious offline. You’ll hear how EMDR-informed, IFS-inspired, and somatic practices are woven into a deeply intuitive framework, creating the most grounded, magnetic roadmap to your authenticity. Plus, get the scoop on the speaking tour, upcoming book club, and why now is the perfect time to connect with your magic. Find the complete show notes here -> https://tobemagnetic.com/expanded-podcast
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Lacey Phillips, author of how to Manifest.
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This book feels like the ultimate manual to manifestation. If you've been calling in the partner, you've been calling in the job, just having a better relationship with yourself, all of that can be achieved through following the step by step process that's in the book.
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If you have ever wanted to send an episode about what to be magnetic is to a friend, this one is going to be it. We are talking about the how to Manifest book. We are talking about the how to Manifest process, how it is grounded in neuroscience and psychology and how you can use it to completely transform your life. Lacy, I'm so excited to dive into this episode today with you and I just wanted, before we jump in, to touch base because I know so many people are feeling all out of sorts right now with so much stripping and change and transformation happening there. This main connection we're gonna have with the community over the next few months. And also getting really hyped for the speaking tour, which the first stop is kicking off in New York next Saturday, October 25th, a week away. I can't wait to see you guys.
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Yeah, I'm getting really excited. There's been a lot of channeling coming through, which we talked about a little bit last week, and I think a really big piece we're definitely gonna be teaching something very exclusive at the tour, only at the tour. So I'm really, really excited for the part of our community who can truly join for that. There's a big piece there that's coming through during the stripping year as we're calling in the list together, we're going to introduce this whole new element to the list that it's a concept we've just never really talked about. It's something that's channeling in real time based on the real energetics at this moment. So if you have been experiencing that stripping, you know, throughout the year, like Truly everybody has, it's going to be really powerful for you to connect with this particular frequency and energy. So I'm really excited. And then I also just recorded the deep imagining which Jessica had just crafted yesterday in preparation. So it'll be a brand new deep imagining based on this specific teaching that we will be doing specifically at the tour together. So I can't wait to see those of you who are joining us on Friday. And yeah, the Wellness Hour. All the pieces are going to be really, really, really special during this time of year, especially with the roadmap that you're hearing about too, how we're holding your hand through the rest of so get ready. It's going to be good.
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So good. Yeah. The deep imagining is the purpose and soul essence. Di and purpose, I think, you know, has the connotation of being. I have this one purpose or this soul thing that I'm bringing to the world or this is my reason for existing. But really it's a lot more broad and a lot more ever changing and shifting through the seasons. And whenever we're stripped of something or we have that space, there is a bigger purpose at play there. There is something else calling to us of how to serve, of how to share, of how to show up or even just what energy you're bringing to day to day. I remember, I think Jen is always talking about this but how like part of your purpose can be how you just interact with the world. The joy that you bring, the curiosity you bring, the heart openness that you bring. Everyone's purpose is going to look different and in different seasons it's going to look different. So before we dive into crafting our which we'll do at the tour, but then we'll also talk a little bit about during our book club, how do we connect and listen to what is coming in, what is channeling in for all of us individually about what our purpose is in this next season? Because I think that can be our North Star, our through line of connecting to that and navigating with ease on the other side.
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I agree. And letting the magic come through 100%.
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How does it feel to be an author?
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This is so exciting.
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Well, I have to say we'll talk about this more the manifestation process. But I feel the way I've been talking about this book is I feel like this book was written by the brand. This is the brand's book. So it's really hard for me to take any true credit for it. We'll get into the manifestation episode but you Ali on our team created the exercises. They're all brand new exercises in there. Anybody who's ever been a tbmer doesn't know them, has never done them. Because we wanted to make sure there was newness in this process. We had a co writer. So when everybody's like author. I'm like yeah, next book. You know what I mean? It feels this, this book feels like the ultimate manual to manifestation. If you are anything like me and you have a bookshelf filled from me when I was 17 of every manifestation book out there before there was the resurgence, after TBM got famous, you know, it was like all these. So prior to that, but all of the old Hicks books and the Secret and the Florence Nightingale. Is that her last name? I have all of those. And so just as to be magnetic was birthed, this manifestation formula was birthed. And this is the most digestible, easy step by step process. And so when I look at it, I don't go like oh author. I go, this is TBM's manifestation manual for the world. It's crazy. And it's been amazing because up until today, literally today, I think there have been maybe, what do you think, like, eight people who have even had the chance to read it. Is that right?
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So well, with the publishers, probably at least like 20 or 30, but still very small handful.
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So on the team, like on the creators, right, At Penguin Life, beyond them, beyond our agent, beyond that in terms of real life. So we've known. I've known Elise Luna now for years and years. I mean, from when I was in. In Goop Health onto the podcast. And it was so amazing. When you went onto her podcast to talk about the book, she had gotten it and read it and instantly on her own accord, signed up for the pathway. Not us comping her, nothing. Like, signed up and was ready to go. And so everybody I've known, been in contact with of these very small, select group of people who have actually read it are like, oh my God, I get it done in. Let's do this. Including the assistant editor at Penguin Life who, like got handed the book and just had to edit it, had knew nothing about us, nothing about me, read it. During the process of reading it, manifested her dream apartment in New York and was like, I'm telling everybody about this book. And so this is a very long winded tangent because I'm so excited. I really believe this was completely birthed through us as a brand. Right. Like, of course I channeled the original formula. That's what this is. But we've gone on to all create so much together beyond that. And so this is the thing that every single person who's a beautiful big tbmer who has manifested great things in their life has been asking for. Because not only is it this analog thing that they can underline, write their notes in, but everyone's like, how the fuck do I explain you to my best friend? I'm telling. My family member, I'm telling. And now I can just hand them a book. You know what I mean? They're like, well, the Pathway is, you know, it's a long pitch. So I love that this exists. And I do believe this is going to bridge the gap between anyone who's been in our periphery, like, quasi curious about us, sort of listening to the podcast. I've heard a few friends say good things. Now they're like, oh, cool, I can just buy this, give it a read, and then they're gonna see instantly, like, holy. Because the concept of it is you take one manifestation or multiple and it walks you step by step through the process. And it's such an easy, digestible read. It's not convoluted. They're very, very relatable, easy, digestible stories. And then we have, like, easy digestible testimonies. And so it's like, bam, bam, bam, bam. Got it. Know how to manifest. Holy shit. I have a manifestation on the other side.
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It is really wild, too, because it was also interesting doing the audiobook portion for it and reading it through that way again. I'm not kidding. The unlock I had after reading the audiobook, like, and you know, I've been doing this work. We're immersed in this work. Like, live and breathe. Think about it all the time. But there was something with the simplicity at which it was taught. And then also the examples just like something in them. I was like, oh, right. That is so clearly my pattern here. And this is what I need to change, and this is what I need to do, or this is what I need to move. And this is someone who has been doing this work and so mercenary work. I'm telling you. It just. I don't. I don't really know how to put words to it, but it's like, if you've been doing this forever, you almost get comfortable and you're like, yeah, I know that. I know that. I know that. But then when you read it, you're like, oh, but I'm embodying it differently. I feel like that happens every single year with this work. That the more time that goes on and the more I see the examples of the energetics playing out in my real life and my friends lives, and then I read it again in a different way or a different tone or different words or something, it like hits and I'm like, oh, that's what that means. On a whole nother expanded level, A whole nother level of consciousness that you're approaching it to, which I think is just huge. It makes me want to read the book once every year to see, like, okay, what level am I at now? What new things do I take away?
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I completely agree, but I know in the pathway, which is the very 2.3.0 of this book, you know, it's like, you're going to read this book, you're going to understand the formula. You're going to know step by step what to do. But then you go deeper and you have to do the inner child and you do the shadow. But I think the difference about this book now being 1.0 and being the stepping stone into that if somebody hasn't been in the Pathway or in the brand and. Or if they have been seeing it now all through a different light, is it just feels so condensed into one thing in front of you in the Pathway. Sometimes even people who have been in the Pathway forever can get A, complacent or B, overwhelmed. And so it's like to have all of this just in one living place that you can take with you anywhere and you're offline, on a plane, whatever. It just. There is something that feels like a Bible. It's the manifestation Bible. And it's like, not hard to decipher. It's extremely digestible. That was our number one goal from like day one meetings when Grace was still in the brand. We were all together on with Meg, on with our amazing editor at Penguin Life. We were like, we want this to be the most layman term. Meets everybody right where they're at. Nothing convoluted, nothing pretentious. It needs to be so digestible. And it really, really has landed that way.
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I'm just excited for people to have it in their hands. And I'm excited to like, take it to a coffee shop and like, have the book and someone be like, what is that? It's.
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Let me tell you, I love that you've played this.
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It is my favorite thing to see people reading at a coffee shop and like seeing a book that you love. It's just the coolest thing. And then to have a book that I'm obsessed with. Yeah, it's gonna be so exciting. So if you see me at a coffee shop with the book, just feel free to ask questions. Okay, tell us about the book. For someone who has landed here on this episode, they're like, my friend sent me this, I should buy the book. Or I'm with my friend to this their speaking tour. Like, what can they expect for someone who maybe dapples in manifestation or maybe like has heard of manifestation but thinks it's too woo woo and all this stuff. How would you describe tbm?
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Well, first, I want to start with a little bit of a precursor. At the top of the year, I really channeled that it would be the year of stripping. And it really has been truly for everybody I know whether it's light, what I mean by that. It's like things getting totally ripped out from under you that you were afraid would and they do. And you're so much stronger on the other side. Well, that this isn't totally in accident or vain. It's so meant to be happening to get you closer to your authentic, worthy self. I Believe that this is pertinent to say, to answer that question, because this, to me, is the manual. What people need right now who are experiencing that. Even if you're like, whoa, okay, I'm back on the ground. That big thing was stripped three months ago. I'm stronger on the other side, not to be fooled, because more's coming. So I just wanna. I wanna set that up for anybody tuning into any of our episodes right now. So now that that's out of the way, here's the deal, and here's the backstory. I was somebody who became a manifestation. Like a closeted manifestation. Not junkie, but huge practicer because I was a broke artist and a model in LA. And I went to a psychic at 17, my mom had sent me to for my birthday. And I asked her, what do I do to have any form of monetary control over my art. I wasn't just a, like, pretty LA actress. I was going to classes every day. I was doing scene work every day. I was so serious about it. And she said, pick up this particular book, follow it to a T, and when you do, you'll manifest everything you want. And it was one of the old books that I had mentioned. But she was ultimately right because it did open up the door to manifestation, a concept I'd never heard of. And so I started. I'm a Capricorn moon. And I just started practicing. I'm a controlled and very regimented person when I want to be, when it's something that matters to me. And so I practiced. And then that led me into the Secret, and it led me into the Hicks book. So it's all of the. Be positive, think to believe it's true. Pretend until you get it. Stay in the vortex. And I did all of that. And I would manifest little things, but nothing that was moving the needle in my life. I was still broke. I was. Was still a doormat. And dating wasn't getting anywhere, really, in my acting career. But beyond, like, one lead in a movie here with Dean Cain, a really bad horror film, like a little commercials.
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Here we have clips of it. We are. The team is obsessed with this.
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I got a text from my youngest brother the other day because he's so. He's a mental projector. And he was like, what did you think of acting? I was like, it was hard because it's the most fudgeing, heartbreaking thing in the world. And so, yeah, it just, like, it got all of that energy flowing again. But all this to say, around 25, I started to figure out Whoa. I really do have psychic gifts. My mom's a very gifted medium and has all of the. Claire, she's very psychic. And I went, wow, I do. Mine's a little confusing and took a while to figure out. Because I'm Claire cognizant. It means I just know things. They land to my brain and I know them. I was clair cognizant being given this direction in. In terms of manifestation. The universe was just telling me things. So basically I had to throw away everything I had learned about manifestation and follow those breadcrumbs of what I was being shown. And that ultimately became what this book is, which is the actual step by step formula of manifestation. And it's not woo woo at all. There's nothing about it that's like, pretend to be something you're not. Stay in a vort. It's nothing like that. It was like, holy shit. Manifestation has nothing to do with those things. It has everything to do with self worth being as authentic as possible, dealing with the inner imprintation you picked up from zero to now. There was pain, shame and trauma. This was way before people were talking about that. And yeah, basically it was. It's a step by step process. It's super approachable. And so that's what this book is. It's called how to Manifest. It's the formula of manifestation, which has now garnered us tens of thousands of testimonies which you can very easily read on our website. And we've pulled some of those for this book.
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I think what's also so cool about it is that you were on your own hero's journey of sort uncoupling and bringing all this stuff to life and trusting that intuition and seeing it play out and, and having all these case studies, because you also had clients at the time when you were launching this of like, okay, we're doing this method with this person, this person. And it was playing out to the T every single time. And as you're refining it, you're learning more and more about it. But then afterwards, having psychologists and therapists and neuroscience come to the team and look at the work and be like, yeah, well this makes sense. Because the neuroscience says blah, blah, blah, and this is, you know, like having all of that backing. But the intuition came first, which I think is really fascinating how I think so many times we want the science first to make it a fact and. But you trusted your intuition and then saw the results. Like massive, massive, massive results. And then to have our neuroscience advisor, having psychologists working with therapists, all the things Be like, oh my God. Yeah, guys, like, this is like you're hitting this and like, okay, let's pull this in. And I just think that combination of things within the book and within the method and within the program is just really powerful because I think you either get the intuitive side of things, the spiritual, but there's really no, like, evidence to trust it. This is all rooted in psychological and neuroscience evidence. So I think having both, it like, allows you to really trust the process going through it.
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I agree. And so if you're somebody who has no concept of what manifestation is, your sister, friend, partner sent you this episode. It's something as simple as this. When you came onto the planet, you were totally whole worthy, authentic self. You were your essence. And then it's the human experience. That's why you took a body. You started to experience pain, shame and programming. Regardless if you had the best parents in the world or if you had the most abusive, traumatic childhood in the world, we all experience forms of pain, shame and programming which make us put masks on. We call it the onion layer. We put on these, these onion layers and masks in order to survive, to be safe. Because ultimately to survive, especially when we're children, is we will do anything to be loved and have any form of connection, just simple biologically science. You need that in order to not leave the tribe and die, right? Like you need that to survive. Through that process, you become your inauthentic self. And there's a very systematic way of peeling off those onion layers and the beauty in the book, we have the most up to date exercises of doing that because again, like Jessica said, we do work constantly with a therapist in house and we have had our psychiatrists in neuroscience back everything. So we have all of the latest techniques of how to do that. And that's why this work garners so many results. It's combining the best of everything out there while deciding what's that one big thing I want to manifest or that small thing, or the five things or the thing that's going to create my dream life. Because we all are going to have that if we do it. And we're going to if we desire it. And if we follow a step by step formula properly, we get there. And so that's what this is. So if you've been calling in the partner, you've been calling in the job, you've been calling in just having a better relationship with yourself, the home, the better relationship with your friends, the travel, the whatever, all of that can be achieved through following the step. By step process that's in the book.
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And I think what's interesting is when people first come to this method, they'll start with something tangible. They'll start with that career that they have just never been able to get off the ground or get into alignment or the monetary thing, the goal that they're looking to get to the next level of it or the partner. But once you get those things, then it becomes so much about how do I want to enjoy my life? Like, how do I actually want to feel, enjoying it? And it's for me at this stage, like so many of my manifestations aren't these markers or these physical things. They're like, I want to feel more peaceful in my day. I want to move like this, I want to express like this. And that is getting back to your magic, your essence, your authenticity, what actually fulfills you in this lifetime, your purpose. You think you're, you're going to achieve this one thing out there, and ultimately it's the journey back to yourself. It's the journey to your highest purpose. It's the journey to your higher self, your future self, whatever you want to call it, in a very step by step way where it feels safe and secure to peel back the layers to yourself, to come home again.
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Yeah, totally. And to feel confident and comfortable being so. Because ultimately, at the end of the day, if you are your most authentic self and you're expanded in what you want. So, you know, for somebody brand new here, that means your subconscious needs to see, to believe that what you want is possible for you, Especially if you never had any version of that that you witnessed in childhood. So let's just take a house, for instance. Maybe home to you is everything. It's the most authentic thing. You crave for that nourishment, for that safety. But growing up, you never saw that this version of home was possible, or buying a version of home, home as possible, or renting this version of home was possible in this location. You have to go out and find expanders, you have to expand, which you learn all about in the book. And so it's like if you are your authentic self and you're expanded enough and you're taking what we call aligned action, which is turning down or walking through the fear of what no longer serves you, that's when you're manifesting. And so that's exactly what this, this teaching you.
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Okay, so one of the biggest questions I've actually gotten getting interviewed on other podcasts about this work, but I didn't realize is like it seems very obvious to us. But I think for new people, how do they know they have a limiting belief? How do they know they have a block? How do they know that there is something in the way? Or they just like haven't achieved the thing yet. You know, I could think of someone being like, I just haven't met my person yet, but I don't have a block. Or like I don't have a limiting belief. I just, I know that I want to meet them and I just haven't met them yet. How can we kind of peel that back a bit?
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We can dig in a little bit. But the thing I always say to people, and again, it's like answering it with its own question. But it's like, you would have the thing if you didn't have a block. That's it. It's just that simple. And I, you know, there have been people who get frustrated with this work or whatever and have been like, you are not blocked, you don't have blocks. Every single one of us, we just. That was the terminology I came up with 10 years ago where the way that I would see it through my psychic mind was here's the thing I want, here's where I am, there's a wall in between. When that wall gets broken down, here's where we meet. So I only like terminology I came up with was block doesn't mean you're a blocked human. It just means there's some sort of pattern from your childhood of a dynamic you had in relationship to what you're calling in that you have not healed, you don't feel worthy. And yet on a subconscious level, this is in our conscious mind, in our conscious mind we can be like, I just haven't achieved the thing yet. I don't have a blood. That is the conscious mind. However, if your subconscious mind did not have some form of pushing the thing away because it doesn't feel safe, or the things further away because you've never seemed to believe that that's possible in your life. Maybe it's a certain type of relationship, a certain dynamic. I hate to say it, but the easiest way to answer that question is with the question itself. In a way that if you didn't have a block in that you would have the thing. It's that it really is that simple. Even though it takes some work to be your own detective. That's why we have self proprietary hypnosis process that really gets there into your subconscious. It was actually funny, I would say like a month ago I was experiencing this Big trigger. It was so big. And I was like, what's the latest? Like, what's all the research on this? I want to get right down to it. And so with ChatGPT, I was like, here's what's going on. Here's what I experienced in childhood, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What therapies would eradicate this the quickest. And it was like EMDR ifs somatic experiencing. It was saying like hypnotic or hypnosis. And I was like, awesome, cool. So TBM's deep imaginings, right? We are still the golden standard of how to deal with these things. And so that was actually just really funny and really confirming where I was like, we are still the most. We're the golden star of this thing that you can have at home. So yeah, that was just really beautiful. And confirming that the work that one's doing in this process is still at the front of what you can be doing in therapeutics. Right. Right now I think that's a really.
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Good thing to mention that obviously therapy is amazing and the one on one transformation therapy is amazing and there's different modalities, but at least for me, and I'm someone who has been in therapy for so many years of my adult life and even teen years and having different therapists and going to different modalities, having something that I had at home that I felt like I was bridging my own connection to. I wasn't reliant on the therapist to take me through the guided practices. I could take myself through them. I could listen to the audios. And when Lacy's saying, if you guys haven't heard of emdr, somatic experiencing, somatic exercises, internal family systems, like we're pulling all of those with the instruction of our advisors of the exercises that are the most heavy hitting to do on your own in a deep imagining without the guidance of a practitioner there. So whether that's your tapping in the DI's or whether that's your walking or whether it's the binaural beats that are helping stimulate that we're trying to get as deep as possible, as resourced as possible doing it, which means you feel as safe going into the experience. And the beautiful thing about doing these audios, and you'll get a taste of one of the audios and buying the book, we'll have the limiting beliefs Di, which is so good. I had some really profound moments working on that one. But in those deep imaginings, you become securely attached to your own healing. It's not about like, oh, I need this thing and this thing. It's like you are giving yourself the exact medicine that your subconscious and psyche is ready for in that moment. You don't have to push it too far. You don't have to give it too little. Like, it'll tell you the exact correct amount to give yourself the healing that you need in those audios. And I think that that's really groundbreaking because I don't really see a lot of other companies or brands. Like, obviously there's tons of meditation apps, but this is a very deeper therapeutic tool and a very deeper healing tool than I've seen out there on the market.
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Yeah, I agree with that after my deep research the month ago.
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But your drive for always having the newest, the best, the whatever has made the work continue to progress in such a way. And I have that similar, like, what's new? What are we missing? Like, how do we pull this in? How do we organ Even how we're organizing the workshops and the challenges, we're always trying to innovate. And I think that's a huge promise you get when you're doing anything with TBM is like, we are constantly scanning for the next and the best and how to integrate it. And once we learn it and have an instructor or someone tell us or be able to teach us in a way that feels ethical for the members, trust us. It's coming into the program. And I think that's something that's evolved over time with the brand, but also seeing it in book form all together in a way that you can just take that teaching, I'm like, this is gonna really transform people's lives completely. I get a lot of questions about my hair. And Acton Acre just launched their daily hydro hydrating conditioner and system. And after two washes, my hair was already feeling stronger. I could run my hand through it immediately after washing. And that is when I knew this was not any other conditioner or serum. This system works together to deeply hydrate, smooth texture, and visibly repair damage, while also helping to prevent future breakage. The secret is 5% tylosine, which is clinically proven to improve scalp and hair hydration by by 83% in just 30 days. Most shampoo and conditioners just coat the hair temporarily. They don't actually do anything to hydrate the scalp and strengthen the strands. Root to tip. This does. If you're wanting your hair to feel softer, smoother, silkier, it feels more manageable. You can brush through it with more ease. This is the system for you. And the best part, it is A daily. So you can use the shampoo and conditioner every single time you wash your hair. It's not a once a week treatment. Can use it every single day. I use a tiny little squirt whenever I'm watching my hair and it has made such a big difference. And then they have their daily hydro scalp serum that helps to relieve dry scalp, strengthen hair and scalp barrier and overall supporting the scalp. And if the scalp is healthy, the hair is going to be healthy. So if you're looking to up your hair game, this is the system for you. This is honestly one of my favorite products from act and Anchor. I truly trust them with my hair. They have have the cleanest, most sustainable and really effective products on the market for hair and scalp care. You can try out their products today and get 25% off with discount code TBM25 by going to their site actandacre.com or check the link in the show notes. Again, that discount code is TBM25. You also get a discount right now if you sign up for their subscription service, which is a steep discount off as well.
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Foreign.
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Now I'm like, all right. They're like curious. They're like, okay, this healing stuff, I'm getting it, I'm getting it. For the person who is going through that crumble, they are out of the relationship, out of the job. Their sense of self has changed, their friend groups have changed. Whatever the shedding was from this year, whatever the stripping was, maybe it's a sense of their ego or pride or maybe they now have to have boundaries in places they weren't comfortable for. Whatever it is because everyone has had a version of it this year. What would you say would be the first way to approach opening up this book or opening up these tools of how to navigate, like what might they be searching for and what can they hope for?
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I think what's always really served our community and it's always what has made our community the most motivated, in my opinion, is that they want something. So because they want something, they're willing to put in the work to get it. And so I think regardless of where you are, you know, what Jessica just described can be a rock bottom, it can be a rut, it can be what I actually was experiencing. I was in Mendocino last week and I was with my friend. We do a daily walk where we live and process a lot together. And I was like, I personally, there's a term that we have here where I'm in between my crab shells. You know, as a like there was. I'm 40, I'm a mom. Like, so many things are different for me now than they were. And this whole conversation from maiden to mother. And like, me not having. I don't have mom expanders. I don't have any. I have tons of maiden and tons of crone expanders, but I don't have any peer mom expanders that are right in my periphery, you know. And I think the very first one I found, and I might not be saying her name correctly, she was. She's a chef who owns the Stissing House in upstate New York. Claire DeBoer, I think. I don't know. Is that her name? But I follow her substack. And I just recently went like, wow, she feels like such an expander for me. You know, she's a very successful, top of her game mom who, you know, has relocated out of the city, but still has her place in the city, and she's on her farm. And then she has her passion restaurant in Hudson, but also has that happening restaurant in New York and. And has four kids, whatever. I just don't have those, you know, and I'm in between those crab shells. And so this is a really big tangent to say that I think coming to this book, wherever you are, and just having in mind something that you're desiring right now, it can be small, it can be large, but taking that one piece through, I like to have a focal point. So if you're taking that one thing through rather than reading the book just to read it, but you're taking that thing step by step, I think you're going to integrate what's going on a lot deeper, and you're going to have way more aha moments that help you understand why you are exactly where you are right now. We have a plethora of episodes of why the universe intentionally puts you in the place you're in. So if it's a rock bottom, for instance, that means that the universe has been trying to connect with you, something that you've either wanted consciously or unconsciously. And it's very close, but you're not doing your part quick enough to be able to literally be at the same pace at where it's at. So the universe has to, like, push you out of the nest in a very earthquakey way in order for you to get moving quicker, to take the steps faster in order to connect with it. So that's why I think having a focal point and taking that through the book rather than just coming to it and being like, yeah, Should I am an array, rock bottom. I'm gonna read this book. It's like, no, what do you want? What does your soul want right now? Have that focus. Take it through these steps of the book so that you truly have a northern star. And then when we're talking about things like tests and magic darks and the work and we're talking about expanders, you're gonna be like, wow. Oh, I see. Oh, I see why I don't have this thing. Oh, my God. Right? Like, you're gonna understand. Understand why you are exactly where you are in this exact moment. Whatever you're going through, it's completely tied to something you've been calling in.
A
And I love the idea, too, that it could be something that you're. That you have been calling in consciously or unconsciously, right? So so many times I even think about dreams of our inner child, things that we wanted since we were young and not in, like, a I want to play pony at the farm kind of thing. But, like, I want to have this life where I'm around animals all the time or something like that, right? Like, let's say you had this thing as a kid and you pushed it down or had all these reasonings. Why? Like, okay, yeah, that's a fantasy, but, like, I actually can't physically have that because I live in a major city, and this can happen and whatever. And then you get kind of stuck in your mold of what life looks like when you have those big transformations where things just strip out of your life and they change when it's removed. There's all this space. There's this, like. You've talked about this so much lately, Lacy, the potency of that space. And it's like, clearing stuff out to be like, can you stop attaching to this thing? Because this thing is getting you off track of where you need to go. You need to actually open up that space. And what I feel whenever I have those big stripping moments is, like, it opens up my mind, my level of possibility. And what could have happened before and after the stripping is a hundred times larger. You see? Wait, if that just got removed and I thought I was going to be attached to that thing forever, then what else could be true? What else is possible? What else is out there? And even if you're not like, well, I didn't have, like, a thing that I wrote down that, like, this thing stripped out so this other thing could come in, connecting back to that inner child, connecting back to that authentic self to really understand, was there something that's Been, like, secretly whispering at me this entire time that I've been missing. I just even haven't given it any space to allow that freedom, that joy to come back up again. One thing that's been really interesting for my fiance, he has an office in our house, and he, since we moved in over a year ago, has not. Not decorated it. I don't know why. He just, like, will not decorate it. He wants to use the kitchen table, all the things. And then something clicked for him the other week, and he's decided to make our guest room his office. But he's made it in almost like how a kid would decorate their room. And it's so tactile. And he has whiteboards and he has colors, and he has his art, and he has all these things. And I was like, oh, my God. He's like, like, in a weird way, creating this playful space for his inner child to, like, write and work and do, like, all the things that he loves doing. I'm like, that's why, you know, this cold, blank canvas felt intimidating. He wanted the, like, inner child's bedroom of it all. And I feel like, psychologically, it's fascinating, but it's just so cool to see that. It's like, oh, you can just do that. You can decide, I wanna make this my inner child's bedroom. You know, like, you can decide that you wanna make. Make those changes to honor those parts of you.
B
And it's just such a good example of we're doing what we're supposed to be doing, because that's what we're told it's supposed to be, or that's what we've been shown that it's supposed to be versus what's authentic. And that really is the name of the game of this work.
A
In general, a hundred percent talk a little bit about expanders and the importance of expanders. It's something. We've talked about this brand so, so, so much. But for anyone new coming in, I think think it's a completely novel idea. And also, one thing I was talking about with Elise, actually, was how we have such a history of being intimidated by one another as we grow, especially women, like, tear each other down because we feel like there's only one spot. And if they have it, I can't have it. And how this concept of expanders is actually correcting a collective pain point for so many people to be able to see. Like, if they have it, that actually means I can have it. And it's not this one upping competition, but it's actually a really healing way for everyone to win.
B
Yeah. Which is so interesting too, because I just do wonder prior to deep patriarchy, I mean, it's such a bigger philosophical conversation, but missionary work and religion were introduced. I do wonder what tribal communities truly were like. Like, you know, women. Because we were in the red tent, we were in the lodges together, we were weaving together. So there was a lot of togetherness. So we all really, truly have no idea. But yeah, I would just would be curious if I could go back in time. I would love to see what that relationship would have been like with each other. But to get into expanders. So what had been happening was most of this manifestation rhetoric that I like to say, like it's kind of spiritual bypass manifestation that I had been practicing. A lot of it was like, pretend to be or pretend you have it already. Visualize. There was so much like just visualize you have it and it tastes and it smells and all these things. And I would do that. I would do that so much and I'd be like, why the fuck don't I have this thing? That's crazy. And then it started to dawn on me that I would see, when I would manifest something great. It was because I. I finally. Here's a great example, like a big version of press would finally reach out to me that I had been calling in back in the day after some. A colleague of mine in this or a peer of mine in this space would have something similar happen. That piece of press. And I was like, oh, well, we're so similar. If they could have it, I could have it too. We call that the aha moment. The oh. And it's where your. Your subconscious is just never seen to believe that something like that that is possible for you. And so this is the whole concept. And we have. We go really deep into expanders in the book because there are so many different types. You have fragment expanders, bridge expanders. We have envy is like a really beautiful way to look at that. The difference between jealousy and envy is that jealousy, you're afraid you'll lose what you have. Envy is you are envious of something somebody else has. Right? And so a lot of us, when really any of us, when we're talking shit about anybody or anything, or we're about talking canceling or we're in echo chambers or Reddit or whatever. The thing is, it's because we're envious of what somebody has. That's. It's literally that simple. And even if somebody's like, I'm not envy of that person, envious of that person. It's like, you are. You really are. And so the beauty of reframing that is being able to go, wait, what is it that they have that I admire so much and I'm so envious of? And then you have this big moment where you're like, oh, wow, I don't need to be envious of them. They're an expander for me. They're showing my subconscious that that too is possible for me. So that reframe is so healthy in opposed to what the patriarchy, I think has been teaching us for so long of how to be with one another.
A
I think even just, you know, I wish my like, teenage or like early twenties self knew this. Especially looking at. I remember like looking at Cosmo magazine and being like, oh, I should be like. Like these women, something about them draw me to them. Like, I should look like them, I should act like them. That's where we're breaking off our authenticity. That's where we're like, oh, what we actually maybe want is to feel confident in our bodies or to express our favorite fashion style. Not to literally copy verbatim exactly what that person's doing. And that's what so much of this work is doing, is getting back to like the true essence. Like, like, okay, something about them is making you feel envious or jealous or maybe is even just awakening something that you're like, this is piquing my interest for some reason. Why? What very specifically about it is calling to you. And that is where you have to find your own authentic expression of what that is. And then when you connect with that and you express from that place and you integrate that, that is how you become even more magnetic and can connect with your manifestations and all the things.
B
I agree.
A
Such a huge piece. Okay, so we talked about blocks. Blocks are those subconscious piece that kind of stand in the way. They are really all the places we learned we had to compromise our authenticity. All the pain chain programming, it's all the layers we have to protect ourselves. And in the process of unblocking, which we utilize journal prompts and the deep imaginings to help overwrite those stories, to help create new stories, new relationship to those parts and those pieces, that's a massive, massive part of raising your subconscious self worth. And then the third piece of this puzzle is the aligned action. So talk a little bit about the aligned action. I love the aligned action because I feel like it's such a mirror to what level your subconscious is on how you interact with the world. How you present irl. But talk a bit about how you came to the Aligned Action piece.
B
Yeah, the Aligned Action piece was so big because, well, what actually really led to it was discovering the piece of tests. So that was something that no book manifestation. This is 100% purely from me, from TBM. One thing I started to notice every single time I would say no to something, like I would leave the relationship that was no longer serving me and I was calling in the one that I was ready for, that I really wanted. Authentically, the universe would send what are called tests. Tests can come in the form of opportunities. So it could be like a dating experience or a job opportunity or a house opportunity, whatever the thing is you're calling in. Or they can come in the way of experiences, right? Like they can come in getting hit with the bill that you didn't expect out of anywhere when you're calling in the partner to see if, am I going to wig out the same way I used to in the past? So tests would always come and with tests, you needed to address them. And so that is how we came up with this concept of Aligned Action. It's a three part model. This manifestation process. Unblocking, expanding, Taking Aligned Action. So the taking Aligned Action piece is the way that we communicate to the universe. Like, I'm not around here anymore. I'm no longer going to settle for the ways that I did in the past. Because the universe's only intention is to connect you with your most whole, worthy, authentic self that you already are. Underneath all of the onion layers, it's just trying to get you back there. And from that place you're the most magnetic. And every time you get closer is when you manifest more and more and more. If you look at things you've manifested in the past that are big, if you've never done this work before, you are probably getting into a more authentic state, A more fuck it state, a more in my worth state. That's magnetism. And so, yeah, the piece of Aligned Action was, was basically the concept of taking action to pass tests or to walk through fears of places you've been settling in or small in. And that is we guide you through that, through every single workshop challenge, everything we have or do here. Because it's truly what can move the most energy the quickest to manifest. But if you have it unblocked properly, it'll just be what we call situational magnetism. So if you're like, you know, we've had friends or people for the brand that love Taking Aligned Action, they're like very sunny people and they just do that and little things come through. It's like fun little experiences and stuff. But the bigger thing they're really wanting still doesn't. That's because the real unblocking and expansion ending hasn't happened. So it is this three part trifecta that has to be in motion at the same time.
A
It's so good because if you look at it too through the lens of the subconscious, all of those aspects of the trifecta, the expansion, the unblocking, the Aligned action, I don't know, I see them kind of like stretching out like this, all mirroring back that subconscious self worth. All of it roots back to it. You would be making different choices if you know your Aligned Action is mirroring that subconscious self worth. Because your actions, your behaviors, your choices, what you're settling for, whether you would ask for a raise at your corporate job or not, whether you tell that dating partner that has been really inconsistent with their communication that you actually don't want that anymore. You know, are you able to actually follow through with those things and even taking care of your own needs, like that's such a big part of Aligned Action when you have that moment. If you're going to compromise your needs, people please say yes to all those events to make your friends happy. Or are you going to give yourself that rest and alone time that you know that you're really craving that communicating your self worth in those actions and then obviously the blocks of whether or not you have what you want and how your life reflects that. And then with expansion, I mean, I also see expansion to an expansion of mindset, expansion of possibility. And I also see like, like trust with the universe as a version of expansion. Do I trust that even though this isn't happening on the timeline I want or I can't control this outcome or maybe it doesn't look how I thought it was gonna look. Do I trust that ultimately I'm held, I'm taken care of and if I just keep showing up for myself, that ultimately I will get what I actually need, that's going to be better than what I thought I wanted?
B
I agree with that a lot.
A
You've heard us talk about our pathway membership, but what actually is it? It is an all access membership where you can get every single workshop that we've ever created, all of our deep imaginings, which are our reprogramming audios to help you manifest. You can access it on the desktop or in the TBM app on your Phone directly. We of course have our foundational worksh such as our how to Manifest workshop, which takes you step by step through this neural manifestation process to actually unblock, expand and take align action to connect with your manifestations. Our how to Be Magnetic workshop, our inner child and shadow workshops. And then of course we have a workshop. If you are in a rut, if you're in a rock bottom, if you're an up level, perhaps you need to set boundaries. Maybe you want to focus specifically on the block of money or love. It is all in there. And then twice a year as a community, we gather for our challenges. Our challenges. Challenges are one of the most effective parts of the process because you get accountability. It is really a handheld experience in how to work through whatever the theme of that year's challenge is. And now to my absolute favorite part of our membership, which I think in and of itself would be worth the entire weight of the membership if we just had this alone. Our Deep Imagining library. This Library encompasses over 60 neural reprogramming audio tracks, their self hypnosis track tracks that will really support you in any step of this journey. If you're needing calming nervous system regulation, unblocking with a specific test or trigger, going through a difficult time processing a big emotion, or maybe you just want reinforcing how to reinforce those neural pathways of confidence, abundance, self worth, deservingness and connection with your dream life. And not only that, if you go to the app. We just launched Deep Imagining Playlist where we're grouping different themes of DIS together. So no matter what you're going through, through, you have something for you. And we're constantly dropping new playlists as well as brand new Deep imaginings. And if you need more support in your process, you can go to our brand new video series Channelings with Lacy, where she touches on the exact energetics that are going on right now in manifestation and how it may apply to your life. So obviously I am a huge fan of this membership. The peace of mind I get from being able to have all the tools I need at my disposal, no matter where I'm at with my life, if shit's hitting the fan, if I'm feeling dysregulated, if I'm needing to come back to my center, if I'm needing to brainstorm or daydream or connect with what my vision for my future is, every single tool is in there to support me. And don't just take my word for it. We have thousands of testimonials of people who have had incredible success stories with these tools. So take the guesswork out of your manifestation process and get real tools that are going to give you real results. For podcast listeners only, you can use code expanding all caps E X P A N D e D for 20% off your first month of the pathway. Join now and have your best year yet. What would you say for the person who is, has picked up the book, they're ready to dive in? Is there any advice for that new person? Is there any advice for someone going through this for the first time? Is there anything you wished you knew when you were first learning it about, like, what to expect that's going to unfold?
B
The one thing I say to everybody, right, like, if I meet someone, they never know what I do. And then they quickly figure out what I do. They're all like, oh my God, I want, like, I want to know. I used to do Louise Hay and do affirmations. So the two things I always say is, number one, I just say, you know, it's very different than that because it's a lot more step by step and it's a lot more based in science, neuroscience and psychology without being heavy or convoluted or jargon at all. Number two, I promise you, it works. That's what I tell everybody. And there's nothing else I'm that confident about in my life. But I feel that confident because, A, I've gone to manifest everything I've wanted in life by the age of 30, every single thing. 38, really. And then also based on the amount of testimonies we have as a brand, I mean, it's tens of thousands, it's constant. And that's only what we have, like online. That doesn't at all account for when I run into anybody in real life, anybody in my DMs, like, it's constant, constant, constant. And that has made me so confident that if you do the work, it works. It really is that simple. And when it doesn't work for somebody, it really tends to be somebody who's not willing to really look all the way or they're needing maybe a little bit deeper hand holding from a therapist because they have a lot more trauma or they're not, I see this often, somebody who's not willing to let go of the victim mentality in order to step into the empowered mentality. There is a version of, in that victimhood that they're still able to garner some of the attention they couldn't when they were young, right. Because they were neglected in whatever form. And so when somebody's not ready to let that go yet, this, this just can't work for you because it literally is the polar opposite. You're. You're taking control of your entire story, all of your experiences, processing them in order to become empowered.
A
And I think too, we've had so many members who definitely identify with that and so many seasons, especially when things don't go your way or you're hitting with that rock bottom where you can be like, oh, what the hell, universe? Like, what's. Why are you doing this? Like, what's going on? We all can go back to that automatic assumption of like, oh, it's the, the world's problem, it's that person's problem. Like, it feels easy and safer to point the finger of blame outside. And really the tools are helping you say, like, okay, even though there are things that are out of your control in the outside world, how can you take your pocket of the universe and take your power back? How can you have some semblance of autonomy, of control, of empowerment over how you're going to show up to your day to day? That is what you're going to get from this. So if you are someone who definitely identifies with, like, feeling more like a victim to things and feeling that life is so hard, this is going to help break you out of that shell and get your voice back and take your power back and actually become the creator of your reality instead of being this passive bystander. Because this is one of the best things I've heard, especially I think you guys were talking about it before I even joined the team. But that you are manifesting whether you are aware of it or not, whether you're doing this work or not. How you are interacting with the world is a result of what you're manifesting and what your subconscious is. So why wouldn't you want to be like, let me check out what's going on in my subconscious and maybe make some tweaks? Because I might not be manifesting all the things that I actually want. I might be manifesting from my inner child wounds. So let me at least take a look at what's going on and dive into that. Knowing that I'm held and guided. And as I peel back those layers, even if they're hard or scary for some people, so much beauty, so much love, so much expansion and wonder and awe is on the other side.
B
Yeah. And I've just gotten to see that firsthand. I've seen people have this, like, tremendous arc over four years, whatever. And obviously this Work happens a lot faster than that. But when you continue to, like, up, level and manifest and keep going and keep going, it just gets better and better and better and you just become, become more integrated, more empowered. And you're, as we know, similar to, you know what we used to say, you're manifesting whether you want or not. The other alternative to that or the other, like an addendum to that is what you're seeing in your direct field and world is a complete mirror of what's going on inside of you. That's like, it's just that simple. So why, yeah, why not be like, we had an entire challenge where it was like, like you got back into the driver's seat of your life, you know what I mean? Like the authentic challenge, a hundred percent.
A
And that's what we're also going to be taking all of you guys on this fall with the speaking tour, with the book launching, with our end of year challenge, just really holding your hand, especially during this time when it feels like there's so much chaos going on, there's so much unknown, there's so much change. Let's navigate it from a place of finding our center, finding our safety, finding ourselves, and be able to meet that change and meet that challenge with more ease, with more light, with more love, with all of the things that make us uniquely us.
B
Because I can assure you from every psychic I know in my circle and my own gifts, a lot more is coming. It's like the more regulated, integrated, compassionate we can become, the bigger waves we can make of change and greatness and.
A
Not just for ourselves. Like I've seen with so many members, with myself, with you, with everyone that I know has done this work, truly, when you change your inner compass, when you change and take your power back and have this different perspective of the world and this more integrated way of interacting with things, the more layers you shed, the more light you bring into other people's worlds as well, the more you can live your purpose and, like, help impact the world in the biggest way that you can possibly impact it. Whether that's even just showing up for your family. The amount of moms that write in are like, I can actually show up for my kid. It was so not reactive anymore. Like, guys, this work ripples out on so many people and I just feel like if you're not going to do it for you, do it for those that you are around and witness and the impact that, that the higher version of you showing up in this world could have on everyone else as well.
B
I agree, absolutely.
A
Thank you, Lacey. Thank you for channeling this work. Thank you for bringing it into the world. Thank you for all of your gifts and sharing it with us. It is just such a blessing and so thankful to get to be helping teach this work and sharing it with the world and all the things.
B
Well, the real thank you is to you the Robaton passing. I'm really grateful and I'm so excited for how many new people this will bring into our orbit and world and that we get to both be here to hold your hands and support you and guide you. Here are the things you can look forward to as well. We might want to talk about that if you're brand new here and you're like, okay, what now? I'm going to get the book, like, here are the cool ways we can interact with each other that we truly are going to hold your hand through the next two months and two weeks.
A
Yes. So we are kicking off this season of empowerment, however we want to see it with our speaking tour, our events in person. We only have three stops this year. I know everyone is like, but what about this city and this city and the city? We will. We are trying to get out to you guys next year and keep broadening it, but we're doing New York, Austin and LA for now. And in those in person events, one of our team members who's never gone to an event was asking me, you know, like, what can I really expect there? And I'm like, of course you're going to get new teachings, you're going to listen to a new di, you're going to uncover your biggest blocks. What inner child part is standing in the way the most of your manifestation of your goal. We're crafting our list together, meeting expanders. But I really think the biggest thing you get out of the in person events is you start to identify as a new version of self. And I've had this happen anytime I've gone to any sort of TBM event. But there's something about, even if you go by yourself, stepping through the fear of showing up up, of being vulnerable enough to explore these concepts in a large group with all of these people, not that you have to share, you can keep them in your journal, you don't have to do any of that, but just showing up and getting inquisitive about what could be going on for you, listening to other people's stories seen in real life. I think sometimes we get so stuck in our phones that we think, oh, if I just watch that event online, I'LL get the gist of it. There's something about being in person, like physically in person, when all of your senses are there, where you are just showing up as a different essence, a different person. You just get expansion from it. That's actually fun fact. One of the fastest ways you can expand is being in person with someone. So being in this room with all these people who have done the work or who are just starting the work, it just. It's like a lightning bolt. It's like you can see yourself slightly differently after the event. And it's not like this one thing exactly happened, but you just. Just all of a sudden are like, yeah, okay, I'm ready to go on this journey with myself. That is my favorite thing about the in person. What do you think, Lacey?
B
Yeah, I would say, like the feedback I've always heard is that the in person experience really does feel like a vortex. It's that it's like you're saying it's such a liminal, heightened space, and then it's like mirror neurons. You're just around. You're in a room full of people who are showing up and been completely wanting to change their lives or have already changed their lives. There's a huge amount of TBMers there that have done that. And you're all together in one room. And I think the really coolest aspect about this particular tour that we're doing is we have that whole, like, me time after you, which you can explain more, but sort of like this pain point that we had experienced is you have all of this heightened, liminal energy. Energy. It's like you change as a person. You have all of these light bulbs go off and aha moments and you have direction. It's been multiple times I've heard people say. It was like this one sentence changed everything for me. Because you have to remember, like, when Jessica and I are there, the universe is purely channeling through us in that heightened state. Right. So it's like everything you're needing is there. But the one pain point, people are like, wait, we have all this energy and it's all moving through us. We've got to talk to somebody about this. We've got to like move this, process it. And so we have this hour long hang in the space after where you can just connect with everybody. And we have these really cool little activations. I'll let you explain those.
A
Yeah. So really we wanted to have like a little wellness hour. There's little events and stands and things where you can like set your intention on Paper and plant the seed and all of these things and we'll have little mocktails and all of that stuff. But all of it is really to just. Just create touch points for all of you to interact and to intuitively, even if it's just going up to one person or having an interaction with someone who's like, serving you the mocktail or whatever, trust the divine timing that you're going to bump into and run into exactly who you need to bump into. The other thing is, we have so many incredible people in this community. So it's almost like. I don't want to use the word networking because that makes it seem like very work related, but it's almost like.
B
Wanting to grow your thing.
A
Yeah, yeah. It's not. It's like, yes, yes.
B
You meet people and it's like, shit happens after this. It's wild.
A
We've gotten so many messages where it's like, I found my accountability buddy, someone who became their accountability buddy for the challenge at these events and now have gone on to become literally best friends. Soul sisters, like, can't imagine not being in each other's lives. So people have made incredible connections. Even just some conversations. Lightning bulb. So many people will, like, ask me questions at these events. And again, like Lacy saying, it just, like, comes through and I'm like, answering that. I'm like, oh, well, you need to know that and that and that and that. And then they're like, yes. And as I'm responding to them, I'm like, wait, this just unlocks something for me. Like, it's just. It's happening simultaneously. And I think it's just. I don't know if you can get there, there, get there, because they are really, really potent. And this is going to be the kickoff to this season together as a community.
B
Yeah. And even right now, while you're talking, Jessica, I can feel like my channel opening and open. It's like the universe is wanting to. I don't think I got to mention this, but basically there was an episode a couple weeks ago where we had an episode with Dr. Tara. And for the very first. My mom's a very big medium. I have that gift, but I've always been very afraid of it. And for the first time ever on that episode, if you didn't get to listen to it, we'll link it below. Her husband, a spirit, a departed person on the other side came through for a message. And it was, like, really overwhelming for me. I was crying. It was like a really big experience. But that's one of Many things that have been happening. I like, I just had a huge substack article on this that had been happening for the last couple of months. My psychicness, the volume is turned up and it's not something I've been working on or trying to cultivate deeper. There's something, the universe, it's like, I think for what we're going into in 2026 and 2027, because every system talks about this, the new paradigm, the astrology, the Aquarian age, all the things people are talking about. Right. I think the universe has a lot to transmute through our brand right now because I think it's a very integrated community. So there's some magic that's going to happen three stops. Because it's the only in person physical connection I have with people that's gonna. There's gonna be some big transmissions that come through because the universe in my dreams, in my walking day life, everything, it's like put the energy so there. Which is ultimately. A few months ago when I was talking to Jessica, I was like, we've gotta have in person. Like the universe is asking for that right now. So if you're looking at these stops and you're nearby and you're like, ah, this is like a book. Like when you're just looking at it and you're like, I don't think I need to attend this. It's so much greater what's going to be happening than what I'm even aware of in this moment. So yeah, just sharing that as well.
A
So good. And then the second phase of this season of integration is our book club. And that's really where we're going to walk through the how to Manifest book. Get the book, order the book. You can get the audiobook and get the physical copy is out everywhere. October 21st first. You can pre order this weekend and get our free reflection ritual with that or you can order after it's out on the 21st, but get the book. And we're going to go through chapter by chapter with you guys. We're gonna have three basically like masterclass book club sessions. But these sessions where you're actually going to get to integrate it. If you are a TBM member, you can either pick up the book or you can go through a How to Manifest workshop and like apply some of the same principles. But this is where the change happens. So if you're like, okay, I want to get the book, but I know myself and I'm not going to follow through, we will hold your hand. We are going to do it with you. We are going to go through all the exercises with you. We are going to sit in it, we're going to speak to the teachings of it. We will be your accountability for the month of November to really walk you through this process, to set up the foundations, to craft your list, to get in touch with your authenticity, to basically set the foundations for you to then manifest on the other side for those things to land, to get the clarity we so rarely do every single step of how to manifest together. And the fact that we're going to have this entire month to really connect these calls will be completely free to anyone who wants to attend, who wants to join, which we've also never done. So I'm really excited to walk with you guys through that. That. And then the final piece of the puzzle will be our end of year challenge. It's a short and sweet 15 day challenge. We're gonna release the theme really soon.
B
Very exciting theme. I've been pushing for this theme for what, two years could not be more pertinent at this very time because of what we're all going to be going through, for going through metaphorically, astrologically, but also what we're going to be going through, through on the tour and this book.
A
Yes. And so December will be our 15 day challenge. You'll be able to access it all through the holidays, all into the new year, as many times as you want. But this is where the magic is going to come back. This is where the play, the creativity, all the authenticity, this is where this is really tapping in and hyping in. And I'm just so excited and honored to be alongside you guys going through all of this. I'm going to be doing all of the work alongside you. So I'm excited for myself to see what transmutes and what comes through. And yeah, these challenges are really the thing that have moved the needle the most for people of going through this work together as a community. And now we get to have really like three big touchstones of going through it together. And it's going to be powerful, guys, I think.
B
So powerful. So powerful. Well, thank you all. Thank you, guys. Sam.
Episode 377: How to Manifest: Your Guide to Manifestation, TBM, and the Roadmap to Your Dream Life
Hosted by Jessica Gill with Lacy Phillips
Date: October 17, 2025
This episode is the definitive introduction to the To Be Magnetic™ (TBM) manifestation process. Host Jessica Gill and TBM founder Lacy Phillips discuss the new book How to Manifest and break down their proven Neural Manifestation™ method. The conversation is grounded in both neuroscience and spirituality, offering step-by-step guidance on how listeners can reprogram limiting beliefs and manifest a reality that aligns with their most authentic selves. Designed as the “ultimate manual to manifestation,” the episode is both an invitation for newcomers and an expansion tool for seasoned TBMers.
“This book feels like the ultimate manual to manifestation. …It's crazy. …Now I can just hand them a book.” (Lacy, 08:01)
“Manifestation has nothing to do with those things. It has everything to do with self-worth, being as authentic as possible, dealing with the inner imprintation you picked up from zero to now.” (Lacy, 16:46)
“You would have the thing if you didn't have a block. That's it. It's just that simple.” (Lacy, 24:57)
“They're showing my subconscious that that too is possible for me. So that reframe is so healthy in opposed to what the patriarchy…has been teaching us for so long of how to be with one another.” (Lacy, 44:21)
“It is this three-part trifecta that has to be in motion at the same time.” (Lacy, 49:01)
“We are constantly scanning for the next and the best and how to integrate it. …We will hold your hand.” (Jessica, 29:45/68:41)
On Why TBM Manifestation is Different:
“It's not woo woo at all… Manifestation has nothing to do with those things. It has everything to do with self-worth, being as authentic as possible, dealing with the inner imprintation you picked up from zero to now.”
(Lacy, 16:46)
On Subconscious Blocks:
“You would have the thing if you didn't have a block. That's it. It's just that simple.”
(Lacy, 24:57)
On Power of Expanders:
“They're showing my subconscious that that too is possible for me. So that reframe is so healthy in opposed to what the patriarchy…has been teaching us.”
(Lacy, 44:21)
On Taking Aligned Action:
“The Aligned Action piece was…addressing tests…which is the way that we communicate to the universe: ‘I'm not f***ing around here anymore.’”
(Lacy, 46:21)
On Community & In-Person Events:
“The in person experience really does feel like a vortex… You're just around…people who are showing up and…wanting to change their lives or have already changed their lives.”
(Lacy, 63:44)
On Reclaiming Empowerment:
“You are manifesting whether you are aware of it or not. …So why wouldn't you want to be like, let me check out what's going on in my subconscious and maybe make some tweaks?”
(Jessica, 56:16)
00:20 – 03:54
Setting the stage: the “stripping” year, community connection, tour preview
06:17 – 10:37
The How to Manifest book’s origin, intent, and early feedback
14:27 – 18:32
TBM’s unique view on manifestation: origins in intuition, later science-backed
20:04 – 22:12
Explaining how childhood programming, pain, and masks create blocks
24:24 – 27:39
Subconscious blocks: what they are, how to identify them
29:45 – 33:42
The power and uniqueness of TBM Deep Imaginings, innovation in the brand
33:42 – 40:35
How to approach the process after a “stripping”/loss; the importance of desire and clarity of focus
41:29 – 45:29
Why expanders matter; reframing envy
46:21 – 50:41
The necessity of “aligned action” and how it fits with unblocking and expanding
54:19 – 56:16
Advice and expectations for those starting the work for the first time
56:16 – 59:03
Moving from victim mentality to empowerment through TBM tools
63:44 – 70:44
Why the in-person events are potent, what to expect
68:41 – 71:30
Book club and challenge: hands-on integration for the community
For Newcomers:
Start by identifying a single desire or area for growth and take it through the book step by step; the process is accessible to anyone, regardless of previous knowledge.
For Those in Transition:
Use moments of loss or stripping away as potent windows for expansion and return to authenticity.
For the Community:
Engage with live events, book club, and challenges for accountability, expansion, and deeper transformation.
For Skeptics:
The TBM method is validated by extensive scientific research and a large body of testimonials; you don’t need to believe in “woo”—just in your capacity to heal and expand.
End of Summary