What if the very thing you desire most—love, abundance, purpose, fulfillment—is waiting on the other side of feeling safe to truly be seen? This week, Jessica, Lacy, and Janelle unpack the roots of visibility wounds and how childhood conditioning, family dynamics, societal programming, and nervous system protection can keep us hiding from our authentic selves. They explore the subtle ways we abandon our truth to stay safe from people-pleasing and shape-shifting to fear of vulnerability and rejection, and why reclaiming your gifts is the key to true magnetism. If you've ever felt afraid to fully express yourself, share your gifts, speak your truth, or take up space, this conversation is a loving permission slip to stop hiding and finally let yourself bloom. Find the complete show notes here → https://tobemagnetic.com/expanded-podcast
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Janelle
On a core level, being seen is the foundation of our self worth. That really is love.
Lacy
All we ever really desired was being seen for our magic.
Jessica
You don't have to be perfect before you start letting pockets of your light shine.
Lacy
You can start right now.
Jessica
Where is the fear of being seen holding you back? Where are you dimming your light? Where are you not letting your true essence, your true gifts, your true magnetism radiate out into the world? And did you know that by keeping yourself small and dimming yourself in these little ways in your life, it is disconnecting you from all of the incredible manifestations that are waiting for you on the other side. Today we are announcing our mid year challenge. Be seen. This is an invitation back to our light, our essence, who we came onto the planet as and to feel safe, to step into that, to be our authentic self. To share from a place of joy and abundance and true self worth and confidence. This isn't about the external validation. This is actually learning to instead of orient our worth, our metrics on everything outside of us, looking to how other people approve of us or who accepts us, or what number says if we're valuable or not. It is taking all of that power back and putting us at the center of it and allowing the channeling and the expression of who we really are inside to be the most important thing. And from doing so, our manifestations will connect with us tenfold. Our big summer sale is live right now. If you've been wanting to join tbm, if you wanna join this challenge, if you wanna start the neural manifestation work, now is the time. These are the prices of the season. Our mid year challenge is kicking off June 1st. This portal, I feel like is going to be one of the biggest we will embark upon together as a community. Because this is about not only seeing our own gifts, but creating a space in the community where we can all truly see each other, empower each other, expand each other up, level each other to really get on our path of our fullest potential, our highest light and all the good things. We have a couple fun ways to connect. So we have a global TBM walk on May 30th. If you're in LA, we're going to be hosting one here. Or you can find in the link in our show notes where you can host one in your city. Register your walk, it's completely free. Meet up with other TBMers in the area, talk about the upcoming challenge, things that are coming up for you, things about visibility, being seen, feeling safe to be seen. How are you Stepping into your power, into your truth, even more in this season. And then on June 3rd, we have a free masterclass for everyone during our pre week on how to feel safe to be seen. With Lacy and I, we're gonna break down some very nitty gritty energetics that we haven't talked about anywhere else before that are so important to the process of actually feeling safe in our bodies. To let our light express and to not dim it, even if we are tested or triggered, to really know our worth, no matter what, even if we're disliked, even if we're misunderstood and let our light shine. 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Lacy
Welcome back guys.
Jessica
We have a massive episode today. We are diving in to this mid year challenge theme being seen. The Be seen challenge. This is a huge topic. We were really going back and forth with this mid year challenge theme and we are already cooking up things for end of year challenge. But as it got closer to this time of year, there's this one dynamic and element when it comes to manifestation and stepping into your worth and stepping into your power and visibility and being seen and feeling safe to be seen. And this doesn't mean become an influencer on social media. This is like can you stand in your authentic essence and power in the spaces and places in your life that matter the most? Because when you can have that rootedness to your authenticity, that is where real magnetism lives. That's where your manifestations can come to you. That's where that deep self worth is. Because you can stand there without sort of deflecting and playing small and having all these internal conflicts going on simultaneously. And we're like, the root really is about being seen. And I think especially I know this community is a lot of people that identify as women and especially in our culture, it's like you are seen, not heard. You have to be seen in a certain way. Your appearance is so important to who you are. Your essence, your true authentic essence doesn't really have a space to come through between society and family and peers and belonging. Like it is so layered Shadow takes a big part in this. Let's break through this layer a little bit. Let's all in community chip away at this, because so much of our power, our gifts, are on the other side of feeling safe to be seen. So welcome Janelle and Lacey.
Lacy
I'm so excited for this topic because at the end of the day, I think everything we've created at tbm, it's led up to this point. That's what we all want in relationship, in career, in our parenting roles, like, in every aspect of our life outside of social media. You know what I mean? Because I know that that's become a forefront since it was invented. However, this is every aspect of our life, and I think that when people can see that holistically, I think that's where this is going to have the most impact.
Jessica
Yeah. Janelle, what. What do you see in your practice? And especially with, like, the TBM intensives and the unblocking sessions and. And all of that, how does this block. How does this dynamic play out?
Janelle
It's interesting. I think the core foundation of TBM is, like, unblocking the roots in order to essentially get what you want. Right. So, you know, a lot of people that really want to get where they want to in their career, in whatever way, shape, or form, end up doing that deep unblocking trauma work of where the wounds were, where the core wounds were of being seen. And it could be like a million different things. You know, for some people, they. I mean, as simple as, like, they were in a school play and they forgot their lines and their peers laughed at them.
Lacy
Right.
Janelle
For other people, it was maybe, and maybe a more serious way. Maybe they had a parent that had an addiction and. Or had an anger issue, and their way of staying safe was to try to be as invisible as possible. But now they have this career that they want to be in, and their wiring is to stay invisible, visible. Right. So there's so many different ways it can hit. It can just go on and on. It can be layered. But, yeah, that's like the core root unblocking that you have to kind of face to to get to where you want to be.
Jessica
I think to your point too, Janelle, like, when we have these wounds in there, and I bet you right now everyone can think of a dynamic in childhood, Definitely one from peers and most likely one around parents, even, like, being seen as who you authentically were by your parents. Like, could you really be witness? Could they go into your experience? Not superficially, but could they really sit with, like, who you Were and what your experience was. I feel like, unfortunately, that's really rare where people got all of their needs and attunement met from their parents growing up and then even if they lived in a home where. And I was reading on this from the psychology lens, but if you're in a home where maybe someone had an undiagnosed mental health issue, maybe someone had, you know, an addiction issue, but you couldn't really talk about it. Oh, okay. Like, I can say only what I need to say to, like, keep the peace. And I have to really monitor what I do and how I say it because I don't want to set off this dynamic or disrupt this unspoken thing that's happening beneath the surface. So there's just so many roots in. But I think no matter what that story is that we hold and there's. There might be many. This is showing up in every single aspect of your life. It's showing up in dating, it's showing up in money. It's showing up in career. It's showing up in your art project. It's showing up in honoring your needs. That narrative that you picked up at some point that being who I actually am is not safe fully and I have to shift and shapeshift and change myself in certain environments is blocking you in this season, in this moment, which is just so huge.
Janelle
Yeah. It's interesting because, I mean, being seen is just literally the foundation of our self worth and development. Anytime someone gives us, even as adults now, when they give us their, like, undivided attention and presence, that really is love. When you see somebody and you're whatever and they're distracted, it's like, there's an ouch to it. And so when little kids are developing and it's hard with being a mom and just, you know, all of the things. But I mean, like, on a core level, being seen is the foundation of our self worth because it is the currency of, like, love. And then another added layer is when we're seeing, we're reflected back to. So, like, wow, you build things in such a cool way, or, wow, you are so sweet with animals or whatever. The thing is how all these little, you know, constantly being reflected back to then develops the self concept. I think that's why the wound of parental neglect. It's such a deep wound, you know, because we get to build a deep self concept and self worth. And on a, like a total kind of bigger picture level. Almost like a primal level is the right word. On a primal level, if we're not seen Then like, how are we going to survive? So it goes back so many layers.
Jessica
Yeah, I was reading, hopefully I'm saying the name right, but Bowlby's attachment theory.
Janelle
Yeah.
Jessica
And he was talking about how the need to be seen is literally wired at a survival level. And it's pre verbal before any personality conditioning layers come on top of it. Like, this is a vital need. Maslow's hierarchy of needs has in the middle of the hierarchy for the same reason, like, it's not a superficial want to be seen. It's not a superficial want to be known for who you are and what your world is like. Where it starts to get into the egocentric lane is when that need wasn't met. And we're trying to get it met in all these external ways instead of meeting ourself and letting our light shine. That's the piece that I want people to really think about as they're listening to this is there can be a lot of shame around being seen. Projection of thinking again, like it's from ego. They want to be cool, they want to be blah, blah, blah. And that almost makes it harder to even unblock the theme because then you're like, well, wait, I don't even want to strive for that. So, okay, never. That's bad to do that. I've definitely been there, like getting bullied by girls in school thinking I was like too cool or too whatever. I don't want to be seen doing that. So I will never try to be looking like I'm reaching towards that because that's bad. But actually if I don't integrate it from a healthy perspective, it's going to come out sideways in so many different dynamics. Lacy, through the lens of manifestation and authenticity and self worth. Where do you see this play out and blocking people and also like connecting them to their gifts. With the authenticity piece, it's interesting because
Lacy
that's what was coming up the whole time you guys were talking. And I think that you guys really set the conversation so perfectly. Where being seen is. Is a natural. Right. It's like a human right. In order to feel a deep sense of intimacy. Intimacy see into me. Right. And I think what culture has really this like warped way that culture has evolved over time. Pre social media even is if you're up this corporate ladder, if you're doing this one thing, these like societal pillars, then you're worthy to be seen. And so then once social media came online that just personified because everybody gets to be seen and a lot of trauma response ways doing, throwing anything at the wall to be seen. So I think you guys covered that really, really beautifully. But I think a big topic that's not being acknowledged that kind of crumbles. All of those things is all we ever really desired was being seen for our magic, our gifts. Listening to everything you're saying, Janelle, like I'm a really present mom in a way. Like I'm here, I'm here all the time. They're on my land all day. You know what I mean? Like I'm around, I'm so, I don't even have care anymore. Like I'm so here. But in many ways it's hard for me to fully get into their world individually. Just in the, the day to day, like the capture of like cooking a meal, doing this, tidying the house. Got it. You know, it's. There's so many moving pieces and so the one place that I really can connect with them is on their gifts purpose led being seen. I can definitely validate their emotions and I do. But I think one thing people really miss in inner child work and in parenting is what are the gifts our children are bringing because we can't be undivided attention, present with them at all times. And you've even said Janelle on a great podcast where I think it shows, statistics show if you can just be present 30% of the time, like that is progress compared to. But I guess like what I'm getting at is I look at Teddi for instance, and I'm like one of Teddi's greatest gifts since she was born, it's the storytelling. So it's listening to stories, capturing stories, being able to recite stories, telling stories herself, creating a world of puppet shows of stories. And I'm like, yes, I can get on your level with that. And this was channeling through Jessica talking about, you know, the challenge purpose led being seen because it's a wide net that I don't think many people are going to have a great self awareness to. I'm obviously somebody who's like going off the rails of fringe of society. Like I'm one notch away from buying a piece of property on the hill where I don't have electricity or wi fi. I'm. Don't tempt me one notch from that. But the perspective it's giving me is all of the stuff that's been constructed that takes us away from that, from our magic, from our true. Like could either of you imagine not only what life would be like if we had no interference so meaning of modern society just direct Connection to God and source. Now layer that in a family dynamic. Now layer that in a village dynamic. What we're meant to be in multi generational family, other families. Imagine that's how we're meant to be living. But we have so much interference coming in and like, let's just use social media as a great context for this because that's what social media and theory is meant to be replicating, which it absolutely doesn't. So I think a huge piece of, of the work that we all should be doing going through this challenge because being seen is a wide net to cast. Being seen in all the places, but really being seen for what we always go back to our true, whole, worthy, authentic self, our magic, our gifts. That's the one true thing that is so ours. And it's the one true thing that's going to make our life flow in a way that no list we cast could ever be better than. So if we were living in flow with that at all times, the greatest soul's desires would just come to us. So that's like one. I think you guys captured the beginning of the conversation so well and covered all the things and then Jessica, you hit it right on the nail with like our gifts and I think, think that is such a big focal point through this. So not only when you're doing the unblocking and the reparenting and but if you have that, that focus on, yes, all the ways that we weren't seen and validated and you know, reflected back to, but on the deepest personal gift level, I think that there's a whole layer of, of true magnetism there. Not only magnetism, but, but contentment, peace, happiness, an integration and connection and intimate connection with ourself we've never even had. I think that's what this particular challenge is going to offer us. I think there's that potent piece here.
Jessica
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I felt significantly less anxiety, much calmer, and my sleep got noticeably deeper. So if you're someone who's thinking more long term about your health, especially around brain function, energy and aging well, as well as your health, right now, this one felt really aligned for me. Fatty 15 is on a mission to optimize your C15 levels to support your long term health and wellness, especially as you age. You can get an additional 15% off their 90 day subscription starter kit by going to fatty15.comtbm and using code TBM at checkout. Again, that's 15% off with code TBM at checkout. I think too right now, just from talking to the community, that the way to sort of think about it is the angle we're going into the challenge is to really take a exercise inventory of, like, where are all the ways that our authentic gifts purpose has been getting pinged to us from the universe? Whether it's vision holders, passions on our heart, things we can't stop thinking about. We're going to actually utilize expanders in sort of a different way in this challenge where they're actually mirroring little aspects of ourselves and can we root down and understand And Janelle, you've talked about this so much, but what does truth to us feel like in our body versus the external programming versus, like, ooh, that's flashy and fun and I want to do that. But then when you root down into your. I feel like your body always tells the truth when you really root down into your body and you. For me, I, I feel it in my sacral and I'm curious for you guys, like, where that hits. But like I feel this like warm honey, like energy that's like, oh yes. Like the excitement comes online. And that's where I'm like, okay, this is something to pay attention to. I think everyone will start to or already is getting little whispers about where that space is in their life. And then through the challenge, we're gonna go through the unblocking piece, go through the nervous system piece, clear any inner conflicts around it. That interference that you were talking about, Lacy, and then really get to take action of, like, what would that look like to follow through with committing to this, not just daydream about it, not just like, have our vision board and all this stuff but, like, what does it look like to move in alignment with that, with aligned action? Because in those micro actions of stepping through the fear of, like, moving towards this thing, that is where so much is going to just open up. And I kept having this metaphor in this challenge of the sun, how when you think about the sun, it's at full luminosity. It's a full, like, boom, like, so strong, so powerful. And the sun, the way it impacts the Earth is on this rotation, right? So the sun at sunrise is a certain amount of sunlight, and then midday, it's like, it's strongest, and then at sunset, it moves down. It's not actually projecting any less. It's just in certain environments, in certain seasons, we see less of it, we see more of it, but the impact of the sun is there. I think we have to start thinking about ourselves, our light, our gifts within us, like the sun. It doesn't mean that we need to be everywhere or we should share everything or we're always going to be on for every season. It's like, let our light out and trust the cycles and timing about when it's coming, where it's coming. We are oriented to the sun, the sun isn't oriented to us. And I think that's where we have to flip this being seen conversation, because everything is oriented to the external outcome. I want to be seen, so I'm followed. I want to be seen, so this happens. I want this external thing. You want to be seen, so you feel internally how good it feels to express who you actually are. That's it. And then the things will come, but they won't even compare to what it actually feels like to express from an authentic place. So I feel like there's this orientation conversation around visibility where it's like, from wounding, we're leaning towards, okay, let me do the external dance. Let me. Let me shape shift and become what I think you want. Let me do what the algorithm says. You know, all of these things, and we're kind of really being invited to say, whoa, I'm totally giving away my power. Like, what is true? What is on my heart? What do I want to express? What do I want to feel? What do I want to move through and trust? It won't look like everybody else. It doesn't have to look like everyone else. Like, it's going to look different in every season. It's going to look different. I mean, just women on their cycle, it's going to look different week to week. You have to have space for that. And I think that's that true love and compassion for self too.
Janelle
So beautifully said, Jessica. It was really beautiful.
Lacy
The sun analogy.
Janelle
The sun analogy is so beautiful.
Lacy
Thank you.
Janelle
I was really feeling it. It's really beautiful. I feel like what came to mind as you were sharing is more about vulnerability. When we're being seen, whether it's like in our personal relationships, in our friend groups, in our work, and if we do have a public platform, it's like in order for the light to shine and in order for it to shine authentically, we have to step through like those little micro or macro vulnerabilities. So for some people, it's as basic as I really want to dress in this certain way, but like I'm going to dress really down and actually not be me and it's too vulnerable to dress how I want. That's actually without saying any words. There's other people in their relationships. I know my partner wants me to be this way and this way and this way, but I'm actually really this way and this way and this way. And so I'm not seeing. And I had to have the courage and vulnerability ability to actually say, like, this is actually how I feel and be. You know, I remember this is actually with my ex husband, he was a surfer and I was like, to give myself some credit, I was 18. I'm like, oh yeah, I can surf. I'm like, no, I hate surfing. I don't.
Lacy
I don't want to surf, you know,
Janelle
but like, you know, like ways that we hide or contort to be who we think people want us to be or even in our friend groups, what's the conversation? If I actually speak my truth of what I really think, am I going to be outed? Right. So I'm going to have to have the courage to say like, this is what I. And then of course, there's like on the public platform, if you want one or if you have one, staying safe rather than the vulnerability of being true. And that's a whole other conversation of how to handle that.
Lacy
Right.
Janelle
But we're talking about being seen in all these ways require a of lot. A lot of courage and a lot of vulnerability to be able to be the sun.
Jessica
You know, I mean, it's so I think it's also a muscle, like how I've been kind of visualizing it. It's like a muscle of opening that window of tolerance to hold more, to metabolize more lazy. You have had so much visibility from being an actress to TBM and all of the things do you feel like over the years your aura, your energy has just like opened up to be like, okay, this is what it feels like to be seen in this way. And then as it got bigger, you can hold more and feel more rooted as it's happening without all this stuff. Like, what did that process look like for you?
Lacy
It's really interesting because I think it went through a very egoic arc at first, which I think that happens for many, you know, especially growing up in an environment where I wasn't attuned to and people didn't see my gifts and they didn't see my magic, they were just trying to survive and auto response how they were raised and so, and then passed around to homes that were just, you know, because my parents were working so I really didn't get to be seen. And then all of a sudden I had a lot of visibility and that felt really good in all the ego ways, you know. And then I also got to feel the dark side of it too and, and all the projection that comes with that. And ultimately it ended up balancing out when I had kids really, it really did. For the first time, I didn't have the bandwidth to do things that were needed of me or expected of me. And I had to also get really real with my capacity. And it's only grown from there, this level of, of not needing in a public way, like just not needing any form of, you know, and so that helped. There was a, there was a big ego death with that too, especially in the last two years. Just really becoming so conscious with my energy and my space that I don't care how it's perceived or where it goes or where it's perceived. And your analogy was so potent because I do feel like I'm personally living with my light of the sun shining and wherever that hits, where and how is great, like I'm not adapting it for other needs or this or that, or I need to be on social media and blah. And I had to really personally go through a pretty big worst case scenarios like what if TBM goes away? What if all forms of creativity go away? What if everything goes away? Ah, this feels really good. So I can just show up wherever with my light, how it is at my capacity and I don't have to be on a hamster wheel anywhere. And in my own personal relationships that's the case too because I've only been going, even in my romantic relationship, I've just been going deeper, deeper, deeper into my magic and gifts and who I am authentically. And I'm like, either you're on for the ride or you're not. You know what I mean? And it's been this reclamation of being okay with changing, becoming 100% who I am, what I want, what lights me up, and ultimately becoming exactly everything we teach at to be magnetic. But all that to say where I am on this side of it all is at great peace and at great happiness and integration, and it isn't dependent on extra external things whatsoever in any way, shape, or form. So I had to go through, like, I guess everything people are going to be doing in this challenge. I had to go through that over the course of 10 years. And I do believe that the universe gives you the medicine you need. And I think I would have been continuing to live on a hamster wheel to be loved had I have not gotten the chance of being thrown into those things and had that arc. And I think that's a really good reflection for people who are doing the things to be loved, Dressing the way that influencers are dressing, doing the thing for the algorithm, or hiding in all the ways because of. And, you know, you said that great thing about vulnerability, Janelle, because I do believe, like, when you said it, it landed in a channeling way for me that that seems like a real hinge. Wherever we're afraid to be vulnerable is where we were hurt when we were little because it wasn't safe. But quite literally, being seen is the deepest intimacy of us wherever, you know, in continuity, not meaning we have to be one way all the time, just meaning we have to be us all the time. And there's going to be fall off with that. And what do we. What have we always learned from day one at to be magnetic. When there's any type of fall off, it hurts. And it's open and it's raw. It's the crab, you know, going from the old shell to the new. But guess what? Then it fills with all of the things you've been calling in. So these are quite a few different, like, threads of thoughts. But I do believe that ultimately that's where this is all leading.
Janelle
I feel like I want to speak for the entire community to say to you, Lacey, thank you for having the courage and vulnerability you did to put your gifts out there, whether it was if even if it had some ego in it or not, like, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for doing that. And it's been beautiful, as you were kind of sharing and, like, the kind of the arc of your story and you get now, and I'm like, oh, I feel that in your energy from where you started, you know, kind of watching you to where you are. I'm like, oh, yeah, I can. Can see how. And you never ever had to me, it never felt like you had some big ego or anything like that. But I can feel it in your energy where in the best way. And I truly. In a very inspiring way. You don't give a fuck anymore. You really don't.
Lacy
And I.
Janelle
And a really pure way of like, of kind of being in your integrity that in your energy. And it's really in the inspiring. When we're talking about the difference of somebody that is operating that we can feel in their energy, they're operating from their wounds, right. And it's more attention seeking and it feels off. And I can think of a number of people that I follow that they're in the same way where they're shining their light and it's a beautiful light. And you. You don't feel. There's no attention seeking energy in it, you know, And I feel like. And I was listening to you, I'm like, I think that's something that you arrive to.
Lacy
Thank you so much, Janelle. I appreciate it. And even just the way you were saying that people are going to go through the depths of this, but it's kind of like birth, right? Where you can prepare and you can breathe and you can learn the steps and you can stretch and you. But your first birth and it's. I think this is going to be like one of the true thresholds people go through when they go into this challenge because they're going to do all the heavy lifting in the universe is going to be like, bam. Okay, now let's play. And you're gonna have to go. And. And I remember my first birth with Teddy and just being like, wow. I could have never pictured feel like this is wow, you know, and then the second birth, you're like, oh, I know how this feels now, you know, but yeah, I just want to give that analogy or metaphor. I don't know the difference between the two to everybody too. It's like when you go into the depths of these challenges, without fail, people will be like, I did this challenge. It's like, I did it. And holy. On the other side, not only did I get everything I want, I mean, I met this incredible woman at this event two weeks ago. I was just at this event here, you know, in the Santa Monica mountains, and she came up and she was so, like, had this beautiful aura and just looked so stunning and Together and she was like, I just want to let you know, like it's gonna make me emotional. But she was like, I was in an abusive relationship. I left, I took my 10 year old daughter, we were homeless and TBM. We listened to the DI's every night, did all of the work and then it like rattled off what her life is like now. And that's like, that is so incredible and insane. So I think about the challenges just it's like preparing for birth. Like you never ever truly are gonna know what it's like until you're giving birth and you're in it. Oh great.
Jessica
And we're all CR.
Janelle
Foreign.
Jessica
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Lacy
Who's enough? If you focus on those two, you're like, you will.
Jessica
You will be a new person every single six months. I promise you. But I think that's such. The beauty of this moment is with feeling safe to be seen, comes this softness. It comes this gentleness. It comes this fluidity. And thinking of that concept of being back in our power. Our power is not only our strength, our boundaries, you know, commanding, saying what we want, but it's also that creative kundalini, feminine emotional transformation, alchemy, essence. You said something Lacy when we were doing, I think it was a magnetic self challenge. How, you know, we've all these pillars of the magnetic self, and when we can really have them anchored, we can have this light emanate through us with, like, full luminosity. And this concept of luminosity has just been so sticky in my head. We all have this. This seed of our gifts, our purpose, like, waiting to come out within us. And how incredible us shining that light is not just for us, but for everything it touches. The three of us are sitting here crying, hearing about how incredible this woman transformed her life because she heeded the call, she did the work, she made the changes. That has a profound impact. And I bet there's some of you out there listening, crying, hearing that story, you know, like, look at the beautiful moment we all just shared. Just even hearing a story of someone's life. Everyone has the power to impact in such a positive way if we stay in our light and, like, really truly let it shine. We were talking on the team about, like, this concept of inner radiance. There is just a felt sense when, like, you're saying, Lacy, arriving at this, okay, it started from this, whatever that's still getting this need met a little bit, but also very authentic. And then shedding, shedding, shedding and arriving where you're at now, where it's like so much inner radiance projects out, and, like, so much light is just coming through. And the last thing I just want to note on this so I don't miss it, but you didn't wait until you were here before you started sharing your essence. And I think this is really important for people to note that you don't have to be perfect before you start letting pockets of your light shine.
Lacy
I think that is, like, probably the. In our current culture, attention span, like, how we've been trained to operate and function. I think that's probably one of the greatest takeaways from this episode. Like you can start right now, literally right now. Especially for the people who really sit back and hide. How empowering would it be if you could just be yourself all the time and just not care. Getting to the point of trust that from you shining your light exactly how it is and should be and should always have been. Will everything you ever desire come and most importantly, your deepest intimate relationship with yourself?
Janelle
Yeah, it feels like it's almost like a radical acceptance that it's going to be messy. It's going to be messy if you're going to be start being more vulnerable with your partner or the friends or at work or on the public platform. Like in. It's just, it's gonna be a little messy. It's gonna be imperfect and it's like own and repair whatever that messiness is. It's just like accepting that that's part of the process of arriving to where you want to get.
Jessica
Yeah. And. And I think even if even because it's going to be messy, the impact of your light shining is still so much greater than however messy. You know, if you were misunderstood or someone's pissed off or you got a hater message or you're disliked by this person or this group or whatever it is, your light shining is still more important than any of that. Your authentic essence. Like there. That's the whole reason we're here. Like that's why we came down with these gifts as this essence. Like that is why we're here. Don't abort the mission. This is why we came down to earth.
Janelle
And you block yourself from love when you stay hidden and invisible and you're not true like you, you literally, you don't even give yourself the opportun to be loved by your partner, your friends, your family, your, you know.
Lacy
A friend that we all know did just have a near death experience which was really potent for her. Really, really potent. And the biggest takeaway because it's like tell me everything like what did you see on the. You know, and it really adds up with what everyone talks about. And she, you know, had a very clear choice to come back or not. But one of the greatest takeaways she said was the greatest love we can give anyone is being honest with them. When I've really sat and reflected with that, the only way to be honest with somebody else is coming from our own truth. And so I think about that actually that saying all the time as somebody who is a codependent. And it's really hard for me to speak my needs and be honest. You know, it is hard. I've really thought about that. About the greatest gift and love we can truly show anybody as being honest with them. And the only way, in my opinion, to do that is being honest with ourselves and our needs. And so that's just another. Another little seed in all of this.
Janelle
Yeah, exactly.
Jessica
Oh, I'm so excited to go through all of this with you guys. And I love that in a challenge that may be vulnerable because you're putting yourself out there, you're stepping through fears, you're doing new things, you're expressing in more authentic ways. We get to do it in community. We get to have this touch point where we're all on this journey together, we are all moving through it, we are all in our own version of a cringe mountain. And we get to hold hands virtually and in the podcast and on social and in the community and all of this stuff and like, like really walk each other through this. If there's ever a challenge you want an accountability buddy, we're calling them visibility buddies. If you want to, like, be seen with another person, we have our big TBM walk on the 30th. You can do it anywhere in any city. Host one in your town. This is the challenge to meet and connect IRL as much as you can. Because the power of getting seen in a space that is open and loving and accepting is so incredibly healing. So just know that you have this whole community at your side. If you're listening to this and you're like, I'm terrified. We've got you.
Lacy
We're all scared. But nothing scarier than a life of, of not being yourself and not having fully lived and gotten what you wanted.
Janelle
There's nothing scarier than ice tag to it, right?
Lacy
Logistically. Jessica, walk them through how long it is. You know, what's the vibe?
Jessica
Okay, so it's three weeks. We have a little pre week gentle, kind of like a warm up inventory of where we're at. And then we're going week over week chipping away at this from multiple different angles. It's the TBM method, but really applied to being seen. We're doing nervous system work, we're doing unblocking, we're doing work with expanders, our authenticity, a lot of clearing space aligned action. I mean, all the stuff you know and love, but new updated through the lens specifically to get to the root and very surgical about being seen specifically and Those wounds, stepping through our biggest fears in there. But the energy I just want to. To send off with you guys is like this. This, you know, when it. Everything starts to bloom, the sun is hit it start, the frost melts off and there's just this opening and you see all these flowers and there's so much color. Like, that is the feeling you will have in this challenge. It will be like, oh, I've arrived. I'm home. I'm back with myself. Life looks so full of color again. That is what you're walking into with this challenge.
Lacy
Isn't that amazing that it's happening in spring right before the summer solstice? It's pretty incredible, and I love all of your analogies for spring. It's pretty incredible. I love it.
Jessica
I can't wait to see you guys in there.
Lacy
Thank you both. That was such insightful, beautiful information.
Janelle
Yeah. Thank you.
Jessica
I hope you guys enjoyed that episode and I hope you're getting so freaking excited to step through this portal with us. Guys, I'm telling you, I have never felt like a challenge was going to change my life more than this one. I can't wait to walk through this. This threshold with you guys. I know that this can be maybe a scary or daunting topic, but I promise it is going to feel so good, so nurturing, and it is the most natural and best feeling to allow your light to finally shine. I have gone through this so many different seasons and so many different cycles. You guys have seen my growth on the podcast over the years. It's from doing this work and now we get to do it together in a container with some brand new tools. I can't wait. We're kicking off on June 1st. Join with our TVM sale going on right now where you can get the lowest prices of the season and just get ready. Let's have the most radiant, magnetic, beautiful season ahead. See you next week.
How to Stop Dimming Your Light & Start Living in Your Power
Host: Jessica Gill (with Lacy Phillips and Janelle)
Date: May 15, 2026
This episode launches TBM’s “Be Seen” mid-year challenge, focusing on the core theme of allowing yourself to be truly seen in your authenticity—a foundational step in reclaiming your self-worth, magnetism, and power. Jessica, Lacy, and Janelle break down the pervasive fear of visibility, trace its roots in childhood and societal conditioning, and offer their science-backed and energetics-based strategies for stepping into your light. The episode is candid, emotionally rich, and filled with both personal stories and tangible metaphors to illustrate the transformative power of visibility.
The hosts maintain an encouraging, honest, and gentle tone, blending practical neuroscience and psychological insights with warmth, empathy, and lived experience. There’s a sense of collective courage and an invitation to bring vulnerability, not gloss or perfection, to this work. The metaphor of the sun runs through the episode, providing a vivid encouragement to allow personal light—however strong, however cyclical—to lead and to trust it is worthy of being seen, now.
| Core Lesson | Action Step | Emotional Focus | |----------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------|---------------------------| | Visibility is foundational to self-worth | Join the Be Seen challenge, do daily reflections | Compassion, courage | | Fear of being seen roots in early wounds | Reflect on “where do I dim my light?” | Gentle self-inquiry | | True magnetism comes from authenticity | Take small, aligned actions toward showing gifts | Acceptance, empowerment | | Vulnerability is key | Expect messiness; repair, not perfection | Radical self-acceptance | | Expression is not about performance | Orient worth internally, not externally | Peace, fulfillment | | Community is your support | Connect with TBM events and “visibility buddies” | Belonging, support |
This episode is a rallying cry for those hiding behind old patterns: come as you are, let your gifts be witnessed, and remember, “You can start right now, literally right now.” (Lacy, 43:02)
For more resources and to join the Be Seen challenge, visit TBM’s show notes.