Ep. 416 - How to Hear Your Intuition & Follow the Path to Your Next Level

Summary

EXPANDED Podcast by To Be Magnetic™
Ep. 416 – How to Hear Your Intuition & Follow the Path to Your Next Level
Air date: July 17, 2026
Host: Jessica Gill (A)
Guest: Lacy Phillips (B), occasional co-host/third speaker (C)

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Episode Overview

This episode explores the power of intuition and "fuck it energy" from a grounded, feminine lens, inviting listeners to embrace authenticity, refinement, and self-trust as the core ingredients for manifesting their next-level reality. Host Jessica Gill and TBM founder Lacy Phillips discuss the ongoing “Be Seen Challenge,” the energetic transition known as the “refinement era,” and practical insights for tuning into your intuition, navigating time-related anxieties, and integrating ancient beauty rituals for deeper self-connection.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Be Seen Challenge: Updates & Realizations

[00:28–02:35]

• Both Jessica and Lacy are participating at their own pace, highlighting the practice’s flexibility.
• Jessica shares how the “golden shadow” work gave her deeper permission to want what she wants—she notices micro-moments of people-pleasing and actively practices authenticity in everyday actions.
• “I am guided by the universe. This feels so good… I was people pleasing there… Let me do that again. I feel more free.” – Jessica [01:08]

2. “Fuck It Energy” Through the Feminine Lens

[02:35–04:32]

• Lacy reframes "fuck it energy" as not reckless or harsh, but as a compassionate, feminine breakthrough—being oneself with gentleness and authenticity rather than burning bridges.
• “It used to feel like a burn the bridge… It’s not some big scary thing anymore.” - Jessica [03:09]
• Key practice: The authenticity audit and signal audit help reveal subtle, habitual ways of hiding or self-abandonment.

3. The “Refinement Era”: Energetic Shift in Manifestation

[04:32–06:16]

• Lacy introduces the concept of moving from the disruptive "stripped energy" of 2025 (sudden shakeups) into a “refinement era” through February 2027—marked by gentle, grandmotherly love and awakening to deeper authenticity.
• “Now we’ve moved into the refinement era… as if you had a fairy godmother who waves a wand and you see things differently that you can’t unsee.” – Lacy [04:32]

4. Home as Grounding & Authenticity

[07:18–13:42]

• Both hosts discuss how thoughts of moving or changing environments can be intuition signaling a call for a new baseline of authenticity.
• Lacy shares her journey manifesting homes that align more with her needs as her own frequency changes: from Echo Park to Mariposa, Topanga, and Mendocino.
• “As a very psychic person, it [the city] has me so disconnected from my intuition… Home is our baseline. If we don’t have the cave that inspires us, grounds us, holds us… everything outside of that becomes harder.” – Lacy [07:18]
• Lacy channels a message about the importance of ritual disconnection, analog creativity, and deepening into ancient ways to receive intuition, especially in the summer/winter solstice energy portals.

5. Rawness, Social Media, and the New Paradigm of Being Seen

[15:36–17:51]

• The value of authenticity over perfection is underscored—Jessica and Lacy agree that highly edited, filtered online content will feel less resonant as people seek realness.
• “People are going to get more and more allergic to anything highly edited, anything highly filtered…They want rawness.” – Lacy [15:36]
• True magnetism and visibility come from one's unique signal, not algorithmic hacks or copying trends.

6. Manifestation Blindness & the Necessity of Tuning Out

[17:52–19:00]

• Overexposure to digital noise blocks intuition and authentic desires.
• “You’re probably looking at too many outside people, so you can’t even hear the whisper of what is true for you.” – Jessica [17:52]
• Intentional unplugging is recommended—especially during seasonal portals—to regain clarity and inner knowing.

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QA Segment: Practical and Spiritual Guidance

Riding the Waves of Confidence & “Fuck It Energy”

[21:39–25:50]

• Listeners ask about fluctuating between confidence and self-doubt.
• Lacy clarifies that true “fuck it energy” is about reaching a deep trust muscle—often after fully facing worst-case scenarios and not just brief spikes of confidence.
  • “You get so exhausted with the way you’re not highest self operates…You arrive at, I’m not even scared of the worst case scenario anymore. So fuck it, let’s just go for it.” – Lacy [24:32]
• Jessica normalizes cyclical energy, noting that it’s natural not to feel “glowy” every day, and aligning confidence with one’s cycle or seasons.

Anxiety Over Time: How to Trust the Process

[25:51–29:59]

• Many listener questions focus on time pressure—career, finances, and fertility.
• Jessica points out urgency is often an inner-child, fear-based pattern. She suggests dialoguing with that part, considering worst-case outcomes, and returning to higher self perspective.
• Lacy channels that time-pressure is often a sign of misalignment; manifestations are “on hold” until listeners make necessary, authentic pivots.
  • “The universe is saying…if someone’s feeling pressed for time…it’s because you’re out of alignment in whatever facets…until one’s able to get in true alignment, those things are just going to be on hold.” – Lacy [28:15]

Shadows Emerging as You Shine

[30:35–35:14]

• Listeners report friendship and relationship friction as they step into authenticity.
• Lacy: Expect those close to you to recalibrate to your growth; don’t immediately react—pause, reflect, and determine what new boundaries (if any) are required.
  • “Just give space…Let your emotions and triggers and whatever they’re spewing at you come back to neutral and then witness their inner child and go from there.” – Lacy [32:19]
• Jessica shares that acting neutrally about manifestations prevents triggering others’ insecurities.

Authenticity ≠ Visibility

[35:20–37:13]

• Question: “What if being seen isn’t part of your desires?”
• Both clarify: “being seen” is about living your authentic truth, not public visibility. Even the desire for a quiet life is about unashamedly honoring it.
• “The be seen challenge is…be seen in your own worth and your own desires. That’s the root of everything…” – Jessica [36:05]

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Ancient Beauty & Self-Connection Rituals

Lacy’s “Ancient Beauty” Journey

[39:30–46:37]

• Lacy describes reclaiming beauty through post-partum, non-chemical, ancestral practices:
  • Ditches shampoo/conditioner for herbal hair rinses (e.g., rosemary, nettle, rose, chamomile).
  • Oils scalp on new/full moons; uses raw egg masks and boar bristle brushes for optimal scalp/hair health.
  • Adopts Japanese “skin fasting” to repair skin barrier, minimal modern products.
  • Notes increased psychic clarity from the ritual: “It’s crazy how psychic I’ve become through…pouring rosemary over my crown.” [46:37]
• Jessica shares her own journey supplementing (Nutrafol), focusing on vitality over trends for her upcoming wedding, and learning to address nutritional deficiencies for hair growth.

Practical Tips

• “The real star of the show is the Mason Pearson boar bristle brush…It Stimulates your scalp on its own, and so it pulls all of those oils through.” – Lacy [49:43]

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Financial Energetics: Summer 2026

[55:09–57:48]

• Listeners seek “hot financial tips.”
• Lacy feels an economic downswing is coming and recommends an “authentic audit” of spending and possessions, using energetic spaciousness rather than constriction to create room for abundance.
  • “My biggest tip would be, what shit we’re spending money on that we shouldn’t be, what stuff we have that we should sell and get rid of.” [55:20]
• Jessica notes the relief, lightness, and flow that comes from uncluttering both budgets and physical spaces.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Why not just fully be myself everywhere and own what I want?” – Lacy [02:35]
• “You can copy and paste anything you want. It’s never gonna work [if it isn’t authentic].” – Jessica [16:19]
• “Every new thing we acquire is something we need to manage… It’s so amazing; everything feels so spacious and bright.” – Lacy [56:51]
• “Be seen in your own worth and your own desires. That’s what it is.” – Jessica [36:05]
• “Home is our baseline… If we don’t have the cave that inspires us… everything outside of that becomes harder.” – Lacy [07:18]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Be Seen Challenge update & “golden shadow” – [00:28–02:35]
• “Fuck it energy” & feminine refinement – [02:35–04:32]
• The refinement era explained – [04:32–06:16]
• Home & environmental intuition – [07:18–13:42]
• Ancient beauty rituals and the power of analog – [13:42–17:07]
• Rawness as new social media paradigm – [15:36–17:51]
• Manifestation blinders & digital detox – [17:52–19:00]
• Q&A begins: Confidence & fuck it energy – [21:39–25:50]
• Time anxiety & surrender – [25:51–29:59]
• Handling shadow reactions from others – [30:35–35:14]
• “Being seen” redefined – [35:20–37:13]
• Ancient hair & beauty rituals deep dive – [39:30–51:17]
• Authentic financial/spaciousness tips – [55:09–57:48]

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Final Thoughts

This episode bridges the practical and mystical, offering concrete guidance on cultivating intuition and authenticity. Listeners are encouraged to audit their lives—from self-expression to spending and self-care—through gentle, honest refinement rather than radical overhauls. The recurring message: Authentic manifestation flows from deep, lived self-acceptance, spaciousness, and trusting one’s unique signal.

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Happy manifesting, and remember: trust the refinement, own your signal, and let the real you be seen—whatever that looks like for you!

Transcript

[A]

This is fuck it. Energy through the feminine lens. It's not some big, scary thing.

[B]

There's a big upgrade that's coming for each of us individually in this moment. This challenge is asking us to be our most authentic self in every aspect of our life and only show up as that self that's being seen.

[A]

Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of Expanded. I'm here with Lacey. Welcome.

[B]

Thank you. I'm excited. This is a good topic.

[A]

Okay, so first off, give us updates Be seen challenge.

[B]

So I. I'm only in the first week, so I think that's an expansive moment for people because life just got too busy for me recently, and that's the beauty of this. Like, even I, as the founder, can come in and say, we as a team are taking two weeks off. We do, you know, at summer each year and then at winter each year. So it's like summer solstice, winter solstice, and I get two weeks off and I'm going to just do it on my time al, like during my kids nap. And I've turned off every other work situation. I'm out of the office, so I'm excited to dig in further. How about you, Jessica?

[A]

So good. I'm in week two, but I still keep hopping back to week one stuff, but going slow. And it's so good every day that I'm, like, dancing in the energy of it. I'm feeling more and more myself, and I'm also letting things metabolize, like, going through the Golden Shadow Di and like, illuminating. It was more than just, like, an aspect. You know what it was? The golden shadow gave me permission to want what I want or need what I need. Whatever you're manifesting, even if it's not in the arena of, like, being seen or owning that, it's like owning your desires on a deep level. And I was like, whoa, I am guided by the universe. This feels so good. And then seeing all the little micro moments, the one thing that I didn't anticipate was, like, how quickly I would spot the places where I was playing small before in, even in like, like Instagram stories. Or when I send a voice note to a friend, I'll, like, clock. Oh, yeah, I was people pleasing there. Or I was hedging or I was like, over explaining or over apologizing. Let me do that again. I'm not gonna do that. And I, in real time, will, like, delete the voice note and like, resend it again or I love it, share the story and be a little bit more bold and like, say the thing and I'm like, wow, this feels great. Like, I feel more free.

[B]

Yeah, free. I would say that that's what I'm feeling. I'm excited to get to signal because I actually ruminate and think about the concept of it a lot and how it applies to different aspects of my life. And I feel that that is what this challenge is. It's the fuck it energy. Like, getting to the place of, like, fuck it. You know, why not just fully be myself everywhere and own what I want where why not have a life like that? So this is awesome. I'm so excited.

[A]

I think it's so in tandem to when you channeled the refinement piece, which we're gonna drop in the channeling with lacing portal coming soon. But this refinement piece, I think is so huge because, like, other maybe fuck it energy moments in our life, it used to feel like a burn the bridge. Like everything is. It felt like it felt more harsh in the masculine. And yes, yes, this is fuck it energy through the feminine lens, where it's like, I just am, and if I just am, then this has to shift. It's not even a question anymore. It's just like, okay, how are we going to do this? Because this doesn't work anymore and there's no more lying to ourselves about this not working. That energy is, like rising and it's in small ways, like, this isn't working by people pleasing on my stories or, you know, whatever it is, like, the tiny little moments, it's happening. And you'll see when you do the again, the authenticity audit and the signal audit. And the be seen challenge is like, you will have at least two very clear areas of your life where you're like, this is where. This is what's been running the show under the surface. And I feel like illuminating that is like, yeah, we can do that. That works. It's not some big scary thing anymore.

[B]

Yeah, the refinement energy is a really beautiful energy that's coming in. For anybody who hasn't tuned into my substack doesn't understand what that is. And, you know, we haven't dropped it yet in the channeling portal. So just for a quick overview, in 2025, we very much were in the stripped energy. You've heard us talk about that. If you've been with the brand for a very long time. And what that meant is the universe was quite literally stripping very abruptly. Felt like earthquake energy. Things out of our life that weren't really in alignment would pull the Rug out from under you. I'm sure that resonates for a lot of people listening. And now we've moved into the refinement era according to the universe, and we'll be in that until February of 2027. And it's a much more feminine, gentle, grandmotherly love energy, as Jessica was alluding to. And basically the way it's going to feel is as if you had a fairy godmother that waves a wand and all of a sudden you see things differently that you can't unsee. And it's not going to be this really abrupt earthquake energy where it's like, I'm leaving the thing and I'm, you know, fuck the person and the blah, blah, blah, and I'm going to burn down the bridge. It's not that at all. It's not what we term jumping off of a cliff energy. It's much more about this refinement authentically, where you start to just wake up to things in your life where you're like, wait, whose five year plan is this? Wait, whose friends are these? Whose home is that? You know? And it's because we're awakening to a very, an even deeper level of knowing ourself and authenticity. So it's really exciting. And you'll know more about that soon, soon in the portal.

[A]

How is that presenting for you? Because I had this moment. Daniel and I were out of town the other weekend in Palm Springs, which is like waist, lower pace and you know, very like spacious and all these things. And then the second we came back into la, I was like, what are we doing in the city? Like, we were like, there's so much energy and there's so much traffic. And like, it almost had this moment where LA started to feel like, I love LA for so many reasons, but this is how it felt for me in this moment. There's just so much and you can't root. And I feel like I've. The place we live is like on a hill up removed. We're in our little like cul de sac. Like it feels cocooned. But then after going to a place that is like, you know, five minutes to the grocery store, you're driving on open roads. It just feels so different. I was like, huh, I wonder how

[C]

long we'll stay here.

[A]

That itch came in where I like saw the city differently for the first time.

[B]

Well, you know what's downloading? I feel very cold that our next thing we do is how to manifest a home. Because I think many people are going to go through this, and I think they're going to go through this with friendships particularly as well. Career, I think people are going to start to feel that more in the new year, unless they're in careers that are extremely out of alignment. But when I say home, what I believe there is, and I'll give a deeper explanation to what you just asked. I think many of us are having this wake up moment. I have what you're talking about in every city, like we're planning a Japan trip. And I'm like, I don't even want to go to Kyoto or Tokyo. I just want to be countryside onsenning high Japanese mountain food, like small countryside, oceanside towns. And so I believe this wakeup is going to really hit people on every vertical. But I think home's going to be a really big one. And when I say home, it's not like, how do I manifest my dream house, though that's part of it, of course, but it's going to be. And I was thinking of you guys, I'm like, it's going to be how do I manifest my second home or my house swap or my dream apartment in wherever that's at? You know, like what I did, essentially, I couldn't handle Echo park anymore. And I was like, helicopters and the blob, I couldn't handle it. And that's when the forest house came and, you know, Mariposa. And then when I was coming back from Mariposa after like a two week stay, every time, I was like, I really cannot be in Echo park anymore. I cannot do this. I can't hear the buzzing of the telephone lines and the electric. I cannot. It's so as a very psychic person person, it's so. It has me so disconnected from my intuition. And that's when we called in Topanga and even Topanga feels too close, you know, and then we called in Mendocino. So it's like I have a feeling that many people, and maybe many people will have the opposite, that they're in very rural places and they'll be calling in something greater. But I do feel home is going to be a huge focus. And I'm just saying home is an umbrella because I believe that home is our baseline. If we don't have the cave that inspires us, grounds us, holds us, is a direct representation of our authentic self. I believe that everything be outside of that becomes harder. So I get that really big. So anyways, that's a long tangent internally of what I hope we have coming down the pipeline. But for me, I Just had a channeling that went out today on my sub stack. It's called what the universe needs you to know for the Summer. And so it's so fascinating that when I was channeling that, the universe was so clear on a walk with me, walks being so transformative that all of these things that's been guiding me to be interested in over the last year, like, really being off my phone, getting rid of any scrollable app, like, really getting back into things with my hands, getting back into writing letter. Like it was this. This one thing after another. The universe was sending me down these rabbit holes. And then it's like taking me deep down this ancient beauty rabbit hole, which consists of, like, no longer using shampoo and conditioner and just using herbal rinses. Like medieval hair care. Ancient hair care. And the craziest thing on this walk, when the universe just started channeling. And I. I've been channeling a lot more lately. And I. I was starting to think, like, oh, that's because I've weaned from my son and I'm in my own aura again. For the first time in six years, I've been pregnant or nursing. And it was like, why is. Because. And then the universe sent me deeper on this ancient beauty thing where it was like, no, I'm not showering really much anymore. I'm just doing, like, old Victorian sink baths. It's like bits and pits, you know. And so I'm not putting, like, any form of chemical on myself. And then the universe told me last week, I'm an herbalist, so this is how it's communicating. But it was like, you need to take white sage off your property and put that into my bottles of hand soap and body soap, which are just Castile, Dr. Bronner's. And then with the herbal rinses, it's rosemary, nettle, rose and chamomile infusions. That's how I wash my hair now. And so on this walk, the universe was like, I'm taking you personally down these rabbit holes so that you understand the ancient feeling. All these ancient heirloom things it's been having me do to get off the phone, get in nature, get away from the toxicity in a different way than we all have in the past, which is like detoxing, you know, like the wellness way. Not like that. It's. It's asking me to go deeper in a frequency because it wanted me to feel like what it's like to have rosemary on my crown and. And not putting chemicals and chemical water into my Crown the direct place we're receiving all of our information in order to tell people this summer. And for you guys in the southern hemisphere, the winter is equally. It like waited to give me this information until right after the summer solstice. Because it's the perfect portal for people who either in the summer and often gives people that spaciousness to go on vacation for two weeks, to disconnect, to be at the beach where you're cleansing your aura, your body, your literally your crown, your third eye constantly. And it gives you that. That, like, we have permission in society to. I forget how I would always term this. It was like disconnect to reconnect. Right? It's not revolutionary. But specifically in the refinement era, in this moment, for us in the northern hemisphere, doing it through summer or that deep wintering in the southern hemisphere, that we all need a version. Whatever ours is, mine is like heirloom and disconnection and herbal and taking off in order to really reconnect and hear what the universe is trying to tell each of us individually, to take us deeper into our authentic self. And it's so vital to do in this portal right now. So that's like a really big thing coming through.

[A]

Oh, wait, this is so good. Because I've been getting visions of, like, a villa in Italy or France where, like, I am staying there on the property and there's like, some other artists there, but I'm completely disconnected and I'm just there to, like, write and journal. And then we have communal dinner and it's all like, you know, the organic foods or whatever. And then swim during the day and then maybe go into the small local. I was like, what movie did I see this in? Like, where did I get this vision from? And it keeps hitting me. And now when you said that, I was like, fuck. The universe is like, you need to go somewhere and just all the technology has to get shut down for a minute to, like, come back into analog creativity and how. Almost like how artists would channel purely before there was so much technology.

[B]

Yes. And that is the overarching message. So anybody who's hearing this and is resonating and has been getting pings in their own, everyone's going to get them differently right now. That resonates with each of us individually. It's because there's a big upgrade that's coming for each of us individually in this moment. It's not like we're gonna miss it, but in order, like, to really distill on the messages that are not going to be Mental. It's not like figuring them out mentally. It's going to be downloads, it's going to be direct. However our psychicness comes through, whether it's, you know, clairvoyance and seeing it clairsentian and feeling it claircognizant and just knowing it all of a sudden. So I'm really inspired and lit up right now and I'm really excited we're having this, this conversation so that it can just get out a little bit further beyond people who don't follow and read the substack. And I've been doing those in like little iPhone videos on my love it.

[A]

IPhone has a great quality camera.

[B]

I agree. I'm like also that's another big message that's coming through. I've obviously been saying this internally, but the way things are moving forward in the new paradigm for business, for being seen, if you're on social media, people are going to get more and more allergic to anything highly edited, anything highly filtered, anything that's like too cutty and entertaining. They want rawness. There's going to be some such a greater thirst for rawness because there's going to be a point where it's going to be hard to decipher between what's AI and what's real and it's not that far away. So people are going to crave such a deep realness and rawness in all aspects.

[A]

Again, I think too, for the people who are going through be seen and doing it through the lens of like self expression or social media or creativity or art, really anchoring through that challenge, like what is your unique take? Because I know so many people are teaching visibility right now and how to grow your account and how to do xyz and literally none of them start with like who you are and how you authentically already want to share and give. What are we all doing? We can have this hook and that hook and follow this algorithm trend or whatever, but it's ultimately your signal, your frequency, your authenticity. So if you're not clear on that, nothing else is gonna work. You can copy and paste anything you want. It's never gonna work.

[B]

Agreed. And in fact, even those models that are being taught and shown right now, they're dead. As of next year, they're gone, People are gone.

[A]

Probably the next three months, they're gone. I mean that's, that's the cycle, right? Like it's hot and then it's over and then it's hot and then it's over and it's like if you happen to be doing a trend right now that is popular and working and it feels authentic to you. Truly, truly, truly. Like you would do it if it was no longer a trend. Great, keep doing it. But if you're doing it to prove something, to hack, something, to keep up, this is the time to refine and question it. Now go into the be seen challenge and see what your truth is underneath, because that signal is going to be far more penetrating to the right people than any hack could ever really do.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

And one other thing I want to bring up before we get into the questions. Manifestation blinders and creativity blinders and channeling blinders. Because there's so much stimulation, there's so much input coming at us at all times on so much technology, how important it is to tune everyone out. It's so hard when people are like, I don't know what I authentically want to express. I'm like, you're probably looking at too many outside people, so you can't even hear the whisper of what is true for you. How can you really just stop looking and not even intentionally looking? It's so subconscious. You go on to like post one thing and then a video pops up immediately. So even if you don't want to look at something, it's there, you know, so it's like, how can you intentionally take some time this summer to really tune out? That's what I've been being called to is like, get the heck off the digital landscape so you know who you are again in this moment in time.

[B]

Agreed. And that's a part of that message. A big part of that message.

[C]

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[A]

Okay, let's get into some of these questions. So someone said that they were falling in and out of this energy. They're feeling so confident and so themselves one day and then the next day they're like second guessing, is that normal? What should they expect with that?

[B]

That's not the true energy. That's more of like tapping into a form of confidence. And then when you arrive at the fuck it energy it's because it's in context to something where you like it just is a pattern that's been coming up and coming up and you've been, you know, not passing it. Eventually you hit a point where you're like ugh, fuck it. I'm just going to like really not give a shit and do do the thing. So it's not something you can fake. And that was something I was really trying to tell people when I was first talking about the fuck it energy. You get so exhausted with the way you're not highest self operates in a certain vertical in your life that at some point it maybe it's better to be alone. It maybe you that's, that's the true energy. Yeah, I really arrived there financially and in love and they're both connected. So that to me when I arrived to those two places. It was. It was the most freeing thing in the world. I know I can manifest anything I want in those two realms forever. So you can't really go in and out of it. It's not like all of a sudden you won't sort of be insecure in those, and you won't be tested in those areas anymore. But there's a place that your trust muscle gets to that's so strong that it can't really ever deeply or, I don't know, maybe some really big travesty could happen and it can be so tried again. But for the most part, in finances, for instance, like, I come from so little, and I know how to live on so little that even when finances take a dip and stuff, I know in my personal life how to really scale back everything right away. Don't care, could sell this, do that, and I'm fine. There's a level of, yeah, trust muscle that's just. You arrive at that's. That's so strong.

[A]

You know what it kind of sounds like is your base level self worth has increased.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, like when you get to a it energy, it's like the old level of self worth that you used to operate from finally gets to a point of like, all right, you know what? I surrender, actually. I can see this working out, and I don't need to operate from this anymore. And I can do this. And I'm not settling.

[C]

I'm done.

[A]

You know, it's almost. I don't want to say exhaustion, because it's kind of what it sounds like how I'm saying it, but it is a fatigue with the old way enough that you're like, I'm ready. I'm ready to just do the thing. And I am no longer scared of what that outcome may be.

[B]

Yes. It's like when you arrive at the worst case scenario and you're like, cool, okay, if this is the thing, it, like, that's. That's really the place. It's like you've died and you've figured out the worst case scenario, but you become okay. Enough with not okay. You become. You know what? I'm not even scared of the worst case scenario anymore. So fuck it, let's just go for it. So that's really like the energetic that one's arriving at.

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Okay, so it sounds like this person is more so having just in and

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out of confidence and changing, you know, it's not the full fuck it.

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And I actually think that's something to normalize too. We're not always going to have like our most glowy, like I feel the best day. And that's totally normal. Like you're not going to expect every single day. You're just like riding high and feeling amazing. So many factors. You know, we have an episode on tests coming up where we're gonna kind of dig into like which ones are worth noting, which is a test and which is just like normal day to day flow. But like, even with my cycle, I know when I'm in certain times of my cycle, I just don't have that, that possess in me. It's just not there. It's not coming online. I gotta wait until I get back to my follicular phase or my ovulatory phase and then the glow sparks again, you know, so it's like ride the waves of that too.

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Agreed.

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Okay. How to trust the process when it feels like you're running out of time. There has been so many time questions. So someone else also said talk about the concept of time seeming like you don't have enough. Some people said running out of time because they're midlife in their career and they don't have their finances together. Yet someone else said, manifesting motherhood failed ivf. How do I stay in surrender when I feel like I have this clock pressure? A lot of time questions were coming through.

[B]

Gosh, this is so interesting. I'm going to let you kick off while the universe channels. Why the time thing feels so pressing at this moment for people.

[A]

The thing that kept coming to me was this, this sensation of urgency and how kind of what we talk about in the upcoming test episode. But when you are first faced with this, I want this. And then the test almost feels like, but I have a time constraint or I'm on the wrong timeline or I don't have enough time to get the things done. And I think about myself whenever I feel like I don't have enough time. Like there are so many things I want to do, I don't have enough time. It's almost always an inner child aspect that came in and took the driver's seat. And it's rooted in urgency. Like urgency is a huge signal. Urgency and black and white thinking are the two like cues where I'm like, okay, inner child is now here. So I would try to separate the story that your inner child may be making about the timeline and really address all of their fears and concerns. Like, take that through worst case scenario, take that through just like process in like, okay, so what if that did happen? Would I Be okay, what would happen? What would this mean? What would that mean? Like, hear them out fully and then kind of step back and see what your higher self reacts to and how they respond. Because to typically, no matter the circumstance, even when there is very real pressure, especially for people who want to become moms, like, that is a very real thing. Try to see it as much as you can through the lens of your higher self versus letting the younger part of you who's like, freaking out about, it's all or nothing. It's this time or no time. I'm screwed. There's no way I could do it. Use the tools and figure out how you can move back into your higher self and look at it maybe from a different perspective.

[B]

When we like at the universe popped in right away when I was like, okay, I'm gonna listen as soon as you started talking. And it's so annoying to hear what the universe has to say, but it's specific to the people listening to this that have time pressure concerns. And the universe is saying so clearly in this refinement era, in where we're headed in the new paradigm, that if someone's feeling pressed for time specific, like examples like you gave, like motherhood or career stuff, money stuff, this is so annoying to hear. But the universe is saying it's because you're out of alignment in whatever facets that you haven't really, you know it. It's saying you know it and you know what places those are, but you have not been willing to pivot or whatever. And so until one's able to like get in true alignment, those things are just going to be on hold. That's it. So it's really annoying to hear that. But it's not though, because it's also like when if I'm somebody hearing that going through the struggles I went through to get pregnant, I'd be like, got it right. I wasn't listening to my body and I was having crazy adrenal and I was pushing through it for career and all this stuff when really I needed to shift this, this and this and make that the priority. This is specific to me, not to other people. But that would have been how I would have received that and would have been like, got it. Okay. So it's not that I'm not going to have a baby. It's that this isn't going to really align until I listen to those whispers and honor them. So that's, that's the specific message coming through from the universe on that.

[A]

That feels very empowering.

[B]

And we're all going to experience versions of this right now. Even if we're at the right job in the right career. It's like, oh, are we really teaching the right thing or are we really holding the right vision for the meeting? I'm trying to give examples. Are we really like home being another one? It's like that reclamation of home is going to be so loud for people soon, very soon, because home is going to be in this transition. The base that people feel that they can launch anything from that home alignment is going to become so, so strong and loud.

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I mean, it's my authentic code, so I'm excited for that one. Okay. How to process when you're getting shadows by starting to shine your light. I knew this would happen for people with this challenge. As they start to step more into themselves, they're starting to be authentic. The shadow starts to rear.

[B]

The biggest thing is that's definitely going to happen to people because you're changing so much about yourself so quickly and the way that you used to, used to shine and operate. And so everybody has to have a moment of recalibration without speaking. You know, they're going to be like, what the different here? Why is this person behaving differently? And, and our relationship is feeling different. That's. That's really triggering for anyone because it feels like the way things were getting ripped away. And so just being able to be graceful with people in your life and subjects in your life, opportunities in your life that are going to rear their shadows, it's just inevitable. But the way that I handle this is I just witness it. I don't have a big reaction to it. I give it like a good 24 to 48 hour pause and I, I just witness and watch and case by case, I maneuver. Because in this refinement era energy, it's not going to be the era where you throw the baby out with the bathwater. It's going to be yes and yes. Right. So it's going to be like, oh, I'm here and these are my friends, but our dynamic isn't feeling right anymore. I'm going to go see authentically what I'm being called to and see where that lands. So it's not going to be this drastic. I need to create all these boundaries right now. Yeah, that's. Some people are going to need to create boundaries and scenarios. But if in this moment, especially this, like two to three months after changing all of this about how you're being seen, you're going to experience these shadows if you can just pause, if you can just give space, give 24 to 48 hours. Let your emotions and triggers and whatever and whatever they're spewing at you come back to neutral and then witness their inner child and go from there. And a big thing in this pause is asking your question, how do I want to be with this person? Like, do I want a big relationship? Maybe I want this relationship to have some more parameters than it used to. You know, maybe, you know, I'm trying to think of like friendships that are narcissistic. Maybe it's like I'm not that available anymore. We only hang out in groups now. We don't hang out one on one anymore. And I don't over give ever anymore, you know, and eventually the, the shadow rearing people, places, situations are going to calm down and they'll, it'll all find its footing again within the new dynamic.

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I remember when I would have like outside, you know, material manifestations come through that I knew certain friends would maybe feel a type of way about. I would be so nervous to like say that I manifested something nice and I would always downplay it or try to hide it for them. And I realized like how much I was playing small in those friendship. Like it really wasn't serving the friendship dynamic. Like I was doing it to protect their feelings, but really I was doing it to protect their reactions from me getting their reaction. And then over time realizing that actually I'm just gonna own this fully and not wiggle around it and be like, yeah, this is where I'm at now. And they can either feel uncomfortable or not, but at least it's just a fact. It's not threatening, it's not means that they have less or I'm better or anything like that. It's just a random fact. And the more I was neutral about it and didn't care that much about it, the more they had better reactions. It was almost like when I was trying to like be like, oh, and it, it's not even that great after all because blah, blah, blah, blah blah. They had more of an ego reaction to it. And it was when I was like, yeah, isn't this great? I'm so happy done. They were like, yeah, it's amazing. And then there wasn't the reaction. So I think also when we are still almost like seeking permission, it's okay to have the nice thing or to be the nice thing or to shine your light. Our signal is still distorted because we don't fully feel comfortable claiming it in all spaces.

[B]

Yet, yeah, agreed. I totally think that's a really good insight for people to take away.

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Okay. Someone said, what if being seen isn't part of their desires? They just want a small, simple, peaceful life. How does being seen fit in?

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That's being seen, right? So being seen, it's not about having followers or this grand life or being a big public person. No, that's not what this challenge is at all. This challenge is asking us to be our most authentic self and our clearest self in every aspect of our life and only show up as that self. Not to say that you will be that a hundred percent of the time. It's asking us to look at all of the places where we're not comfortable just a hundred percent being our authentic self. Right. I let you take it through, Jessica. You're the one who created it, but this is not about that.

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I think the biggest thing that you, if you were doing the challenge would take through is I want a peaceful, simple, quiet life. Do I feel able to see myself embodying that identity and not feel any shame or shadow around it? Do I feel safe to go after that desire and be really. I'm gonna be. Keep repeating myself here. But the authenticity audit and the signal audit will get you really clear in the ways that you're not owning your peaceful, simple life right now. And can you actually step through and be like, actually, I want this, I'm claiming it, I'm having it. Boom, done. That's the energy you're getting to. No matter what you're manifesting, it doesn't mean you have to be visible on a stage or visible to anyone else. It's seeing. Really what the be seen challenge is, is be seen in your own worth and your own desires. That's what it is. That's the root of everything we're getting to in there. So come manifest your peaceful, simple life with us.

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Okay, let's go to some personal ones. Skincare, beauty updates. Lacy, I feel like you have the best ones on this, so I'm gonna let you take take the reins.

[B]

Mine aren't conventional and they're very much like, directed by the universe. There's a reclamation happening for me post being pregnant and nursing for six years straight, where it's taken such a toll on my body, it's taken a huge toll on my aging and my hair. Everything that I'm like, wait, what are the most powerful things I can do that don't require injections, that also reclaim this insane Venusian deep ritual? Reclamation. That's the best word for this. And so I ended up seeing this woman, like, how my hair was a little bit before getting pregnant, but down to my waist, very full. And I've lost a lot of hair through having kids. And I was like, okay, what are the best ways to grow my hair into that thick? And everything across the board when I researched was going back to ancient practices. So what really did it is I saw photos of women across the board. If you think about them who like, had hair down to their feet right through all of the eras. If you think about, like medieval times, your hair was down to your waist, it was curly, it was full, it was big. And women did that up into the Victorian era and the Edwardian era. And so I started to research what were their hair habits. And I got deep down that rabbit hole and I was like, oh, my God, how have we been, you know, like snowed essentially through the marketing of the beauty industry to get away from this. I was like, this is shocking how much more effective this style of hair care and beauty is. And so what that looks like is I like broke up with shampoo and conditioner. And that's a six to eight week rebalancing phase for the sebum of the scalp. Because you've been stripping. I've been stripping my hair my entire life. And what I went to were herbal rinses. It's essentially teas on the head. And that's what people did since the beginning of time, that it's been recorded for eons. And so the most notable herb ever for this is rosemary tea, essentially. And you just like brew the tea and that's what you use over your hair. And you do it two to three times a week. There's definitely in the rebalancing phase. It's so greasy for a long time and I just wore my hair back in a bun. And then also twice a month, the raw egg. So basically you whip up raw eggs and that's how people when they would oil their hair. So like when you see Ayurvedic women in India, they have the thickest, longest, most beautiful hair. And that's because they're oiling all the time. They're oiling the scalp. They're stimulating the scalp with tons of herbs and, you know, really medicinal oils. And so I oil my hair twice a month now on the new moon and the full moon, which is like such an insane, beautiful ritual with rosemary, jojoba olive and camila oil. And so then I stimulate it with one of those scalp brushes because that's what stimulating with the rosemary is going to like, really regrow the hair fast.

[A]

Is this the scalp brushes? Is that the boar's head bristle brush or something different to that?

[B]

There's like a scalp there, scalp like massage. It's kind of what a gua scalp gua sha does, but I do it like a little bit more vigorously. And now I also use rosemary hydrosol each day on the roots and then I do it. And so that Stimulation, bringing the circulation up, bringing all of the blood and the growth that's going to, what's going to grow the hair the fastest. But the egg is amazing because it's a natural emulsifier. So when you oil the hair, instead of needing to like use a shampoo, you just. I whip up just the yolk and the stuff and I put it all through the four parts of my hair and I put it through and I let it sit. It's this insane conditioning mask as well. So when you pull that out, all the oils out of your hair and your hair is so soft, it's so voluminous. Anyways, there's like all these things I'm doing of what ancient practice. And if you want to know more, it's all in my substack. I'm like on a whole journey. It's turning into a full blown ancient beauty hair and skin care substack along with whatever the universe is channeling right now. I'm so excited, but it's so magical. And like, how my hair is already transforming is insane. So when people have a lot of shedding postpartum or a lot of people I know, including myself, had a lot of shedding after Covid. And so the shedding, it's like insane to watch how because there's so much protein and eggs that goes into your hair that it can literally stop the shedding. So all of these ancient practices are insane. And then the real star of the show is the Mason Pearson for bristle brush and how they only brushed with bristle brushes, starting at the bottom, working their way up so that they could pull the oils all the way through the hair. And so I'm. This is like something I'm deeply passionate about at the moment, obviously. And similarly, I was doing the same thing with skincare. I started to like, my skin is so dry that even after application within an hour, I'm having to reapply sometimes six times a day. Oil and tallow. It's wild. Which means that my, my barrier was damaged. And so I went through this whole Japanese skin fasting, mochi skin care ritual for two months and completely healed my barrier of my skin. And now I only have to reapply once a day. And I've just brought back an active so that for me, that's retinol and the vitamin C serum. And so now my skin is like really, really coming back online. And I'm so, so, so if you want to learn any more about this, you can go to my substack. You'll see it. It's all there is within the last like two months. And I'm talking about this really deeply. And on top of it all, like I was saying, it's making me so much more psychic. It's crazy how psychic I've become through. I mean, it's not that insane. Rosemary's always been known as an herb of clarity. So I'm pouring that over my crown and nothing else. Nettle is a big boundary herb. And then rose obviously is like activating the heart, opening the heart. And then in chamomile, it's like very soothing, calming. So it's like the rosemary, it just makes sense. And I use sage too, common sage, not white sage in my hair. Because it's a whole nother thing that people did in ancient hair care to dye their hair. People would use indigo and henna to dye their hair. There's this whole scam of how modern hair care was invented. It's a very dark past. I won't get into it all. But essentially in my infusion, I'm putting common sage and that takes the brassy red out of the hair, turning it a little bit more of that ashy brown, that blue green brown. And it blends the grays more like which we can see my grays, but they're starting to blend with my hair a lot more.

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Wow. I feel like we just got a master class in like ancient beauty ritual practices. This is amazing.

[B]

I'm like stopping the post man talking about this. My poor friend's bald husband, I sat there talking about this.

[A]

You're like going to pour rosemary over his head every night. You're like, don't worry, buddy, we got you.

[B]

And I bought the Asin Acre hair stamp.

[A]

Yeah. I love their stuff. Their founder is a TBMer. Yeah. And she was the first one who told me about how all modern shampoos and that's why they do theirs differently. This is not an ad, but I just thought it was fascinating. They have all the lipids and it like makes your hair stop producing its own lipid layer at first, which is probably that rebalancing portal. So, like when you get on their shampoo, it's the same thing. Like, it's like a six week rebalancing because they don't have any of the lipids. It's just like a raw wash for everything.

[B]

Yeah. So and that's one of the big, like big growth factors is when you're just like, I do every six weeks I do microneedling on the face with Tess My facialist. And that just breaks up the fascia. And for the face, it breaks up, you know, any of the ways that the fine lines have started and wrinkles have started to connect and it breaks that fascia up. But similarly, when you do like Ace and Aker has the hair stamp or people do the micro needling roller, I don't because I have long hair which gets stuck in my hair. It basically like lightly damages and opens up the old follicles and brings that blood flow and all of that, the nutrients to it. So that's something I do every seven to 10 days. Now you guys are gonna see my hair is gonna be like fucking here.

[A]

I mean, your hair has literally always been like goddess hair. I'm like, the fact that you even thought before it was like, not as voluminous. I'm like, what is she talking about? But it does. It has been looking amazing. Thank you.

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What about you? What are your hot, hot tips? Right now?

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I feel like I'm experimenting with everything because with the wedding coming up, I just want to feel like myself. I don't want to go super into, like, get a bunch of stuff that I wouldn't normally get. I just want to feel like, what is the thing that could make me feel the most? Vitality is like the word that keeps coming up. Like, I want to be good on my supplementation. I want to make sure I'm not depleted in anything. I want to lower my stress levels. I've been taking Nutrafol, which is our, one of our podcast sponsors, to just. I had the same thing. I had hair loss, like on the side of my head through Covid and it was just like over back here. It just like came out and I could tell when I go like this, it felt so much thinner. But I also did a blood test and I was deficient in vitamin D and B12, which is so important for hair growth. And I was like, okay, that makes a lot of sense. But just making sure I'm getting like all the nutrients I really need. Making sure I'm getting like really good grass fed beef with liver and heart, like all of that, the organ meats and all of that stuff. Stuff. But now I really want to get this boar head brush.

[B]

Oh, no. You have to like, if anybody even doesn't do the ancient hair, just sectioning gear. This is like all I want to talk about with people sectioning your hair. Like first I start here and you do it twice a day, but you do like top and bottom. And basically the mixed popular brush. It Stimulates your scalp on its own, and so it pulls all of those oils through, through. And my hair now doing this is way shinier and much softer than it ever used to be because I was stripping it dry, but I wasn't also using my own oils as my conditioner. And so even if somebody doesn't, like, stop shampoo and conditioner, the Mason Pearson brush is the star of the show. I love the popular brush. I just have, you know, a lot of hair. I don't have thick hair. I have fine hair, but there's a lot of it. So I need the. It's both the boar bristle plus, plus the nylon that takes the tangles out, whereas traditional brushes were just bore bristle. And why bore bristles are so powerful? Not only do they grab, you know, your own oil and bring it down, they also close the follicles. They do it so any damage, it's like pushing it into the follicle and closing it. So that's why they're so magical for you. And I even went and bought this. I've, like, spent so much time. Time looking up my perfect sterling silver Victorian Edwardian set with proper. It's, like, so vintage. Proper tortoise comb in the set and boar bristles. And I use it sometimes, but the Mason Pearson just knocks everything out of the water. It is so effective.

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Was this the silver brush that you did, like, a screenshot of on your story? I'm not kidding. My grandma had that exact brush.

[B]

Wow.

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In her house. And I, I. When I was a kid, I would. She had, like, a mirror and she had the brush, and I just always used to play with it and, like, thought it was, like, so fancy and cool, but I've literally never seen something like that again. And then I saw it on your stories, and I was like, whoa. I'm. I'm, like, having a flashback because it was the same brush.

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I mean, this all fits into my Victorian farm.

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How.

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Like, I'll have even. I have, like, the. My bedroom all designed, and I'm calling it my. My dressing room. So I have, like, a room for my closet where I'll have, you know, the vanity that looks over the ranch, and that's where I'll have all my things. So, yeah, it's a vibe. It's a whole vibe. It's a, like a reclamation of everything.

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How is putting together the Victorian home going? Because I know you were like deep in research wanting to honor all the pieces and like do it in the traditional sense and like slowly styling. Like, how is that process going?

[B]

The process is going well because it's in coastal. It's taking forever like to get permits, you know, and we're doing everything above board and legit and it's, it is a rehabilitation. I'm taking it fully back to its historic. There's like a couple of things I had to modify on it, but pretty much totally back to its historic self. And so yeah, we're like a year in and just passing step one of permits. But it's allowed me to fully complete my other place in Mendocino, which I'm like very gently using for other spaces, like for other things now and having people come and stay at. So it's actually really special. I'd be able to like use that. It's been a three year remodel.

[A]

My other.

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Giving me time to not do them at the same time.

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All the. Yeah, that's probably best too. I like, I like a slow burn. I like a slow decor build too.

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I agree.

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So Good. Okay, Last rapid fire. Quick question. What is your top financial tip right now? Any hot tips there?

[B]

I know people. I feel like there's a downswing coming all around. I feel that. And I know people are feeling pinched because of inflation and stuff. I feel that while we're like that this is a tip. Anybody can do that. While we are really going through being seen and truly doing an authentic audit, I think the more we can do that in all aspects of our life, like, what is that we're spending money on that we shouldn't be? Similarly, like, what are these things we have that we shouldn't have? You know, Because I do think. I don't see it in the same way, the downswing that it would be. I see it in a more energetic way, that it's bringing us closer and crisper to an opportunity to cut the fat and really get clear on where we are authentically, energetically right now, to create space for what we want to come through. So my biggest tip would be, like, what shit we're spending money on that we shouldn't be, what stuff we have that we should sell and get rid of. Just creating some space and really creating spaciousness that we don't feel strapped.

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I think that's a good one, too. It's also good to do during summer because you just feel lighter. Like, I was talking to someone about budgeting on something, and I was like, yeah, but if you just do this, then you cut that thing in half. And they're like, yeah, I guess that

[C]

would be such a relief.

[A]

And I'm like, okay, you know, like, maybe. Maybe the. The ease of doing that is actually going to feel better than feeling like you have to keep up and do

[B]

this big thing with every new thing we acquire is something we need to manage. And that's a lot, as the universe is pushing us in this moment to take away interference in order to be more connected psychically again and hear what it has to tell each of us individually. There's a similar thing there. It's like when we were indigenous, no matter what culture we were in, we had what we needed for the day. We didn't have sex stuff. We didn't have base. You know, we. Zach Bush said this on a podcast. We have basements full of whatever. We didn't have cupboards full of this and that. It's like, I did this recently in our house because I had items that didn't bring me joy. And I'm like, why? Why the is this here? Why is this cluttered? And I just, like, really clarified our house. And it. It's so amazing. I'm picking up less toys. I'm organizing less. Like, everything feels so spacious and bright, and I just feel that could be done in every aspect of our life, including our finances.

[A]

I need to do that. With Theo's toy basket, he is literally a child. Like, every night, every toy comes out. He's like, this one, Mom.

[C]

This one.

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Do you want to see this one? Hey, mom, look at this one. This one squeaks like this, like, every single night. I'm like, we're. He's just priming us for childhood when, like, a kid is gonna, like, turn over the toy basket.

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It.

[A]

Every night, it's. And then every night, we're like, let's play this.

[B]

Let's do this.

[A]

We're like, okay, we're just gonna have to, like, put it all back. And now I'm thinking. I'm like, he has, like, four baskets of toys. I think we can downsize. Half of them are, like, just the heads now. They're not even, like, attached anymore.

[B]

There's bad feng shui right now, you know?

[A]

Yeah, we gotta clean up his feng shui.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, well, thank you, Lacy. This is so fun. I love when we get to do, like, a little more personal deep dives, too.

[B]

Me too. It's always sweet.

[A]

We'll see you guys next week. Happy manifesting. And being seen, guys.

[B]

And being seen.