Today on Exploring the Marketplace, Shawn Bolz and Bob Hasson tackle a struggle many leaders, creatives, and believers quietly carry: striving for God instead of working with God.

This episode features guest Nathaniel Vossler, former CFO turned founder of Rhema Now, an app designed to help believers engage in listening prayer, group intensives, and Spirit-led coaching. In early 2025, Nathaniel stepped away from the corporate world after sensing God’s clear call into a new season—building this platform alongside his wife while raising their growing family in Idaho.

Together, Shawn, Bob, and Nathaniel get practical about:

Moving from pressure to presence
Saying no to good things that aren’t God things
Creating Spirit-led rhythms for your calendar and decisions
Hearing God clearly in real business and life transitions
Letting go of ego, overcommitment, and burnout
Building sustainably with God, not just for Him

Shawn and Bob also share personal stories of burnout, overextension, and the hard-earned wisdom that comes from learning to surrender control and trust God’s pace. This episode is an honest, hope-filled invitation to trade striving for peace—and rediscover what it looks like to walk in true partnership with the Holy Spirit.

If you’re tired, driven, successful—but longing for peace—this conversation is for you.

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