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Extend Podcast with Darshan Shah, MD
168. Peter Crone: Why You Can't Access True Vitality Until You Free Your Mind
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Welcome to Xtend with me, Dr. Darshan Shah. A podcast dedicated to cutting edge science research tools and protocols designed to help you extend your health span. Having become one of the youngest doctors in the country at the age of 21 and trained and board certified at the Mayo Clinic, I've accumulated three decades of practice as a board certified surgeon and longevity expert. Over that time, I've discovered that a mere 20% of health knowledge yields 80% of the results. When it comes to your health span, we are living in a new era where we are creating a new healthcare system no longer focused on disease management, but achieving optimal health and vitality. Join me as I interview world renowned experts offering you a step by step guide to proactively avoid disease and most importantly, extend your health span. Welcome to xtend, the podcast dedicated to helping you live a longer and healthier life. Today I'm joined by the incredible Peter Crown. He's a renowned thought leader in the mental and spiritual health space who also brings a unique background as an exercise physiologist and biologist. Peter shares his powerful philosophy on how freeing your mind is the ultimate gateway to true vitality. And while our understanding of health often misses the mark, he'll challenge us to look beyond physical symptoms and understand the profound impact of our internal state on on our overall well being. Get ready for a mind expanding conversation that bridges the gap between mental and physical health. Hey everyone. Before we dive into today's episode, I want to talk about something that you hear me talk a lot about. Your biomarkers. And I want to tell you how I'm approaching this situation right now with all of the patients that are calling me from listening to this podcast. So what happens is every day patients are writing to me saying they feel exhausted, they can't lose weight, they're having brain fog, and they see their doctor and the doctor tells them all their blood work as normal. But the problem is this doctor usually is only checking about 10 to 15 biomarkers that only tell you if you have a disease developing. Meanwhile, your body has 160 different systems that are running and all of these have blood tests that we can test on how effective they're working for you every single day. So if someone is not close to one of my clinics, one of my next health clinics, then I tell them go to their local laboratory and get on Function Health. Function Health gives you access to 160 different biomarkers, the same kind of comprehensive testing that we do at all of our next health clinics. And if you try to get this on your own, through your regular doctor, it can cost you thousands of dollars. Hormones, inflammation, toxins, nutrient levels, they're all tracked over time in this one platform called Function Health. They could even help you get an MRI scan or a CT scan if you want one. So what I love most about this company is that they don't have a crazy incentive to do this. Function doesn't push supplements. They don't have pharmaceuticals they're trying to get you to take. You're just getting the data, and you're getting insights from the data, and you can bring this data to a clinic like ours, and we then have the information that we need to tell you how to improve your health. Membership is now only $365 a year. Literally, it's just a dollar a day. And right now, if you're one of my listeners, you can get a $25 credit towards the membership. You just go to the link in the bio or go to functionhealth.com and use the code DrShaw25 for a $25 credit towards your membership. Hey, Peter. I am just so excited we finally made this happen. It's been a while coming, right?
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Definitely a little overdue. It's always a joy to be with you, my friend.
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Yeah.
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Thank you for having me.
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Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, it's so interesting being on the speaking circuit. We, like, run into each other in Dubai and all these other exotic places in the world.
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Just couldn't get it together in your own backyard. But here we are. We made it.
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I love it. I love it, Peter. I mean, you're so prolific in the mental, spiritual health space, and I think a lot of people that listen to this podcast specifically are a lot of practitioners of medicine. Medicine being in clinics like. Well, we have a next health. And I really want to bridge the gap between mental and spiritual health and physical health for people. And I think you do an incredible job of that, especially with your background being an exercise physiologist as well, biologist, and then the space you're in now.
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Yeah.
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And I'd love for, you know, just to kind of kick this off, maybe give a little bit about your journey.
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Sure.
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How you ended up here.
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Well, I mean, thank you. I. It's been. It's been an arduous at times, but a very colorful journey. I mean, going way back, I was orphaned when I was young, so that's sort of definitely intrinsic part of my story. Only child. Mom passed of cancer when I was seven. So that was something. Obviously, I didn't really know how to process as a seven year old little boy. And then it was me and my dad for a decade. And then he worked on the ferries between England, where I was raised, and Belgium and France. And there was a major capsize of one of the ferries and he passed. So when I was 17, I was suddenly orphaned. So that was quite a unique start to this crazy human experience. And in ways that I didn't understand at the time, it definitely, you know, helped formulate certain experiences. Predominantly isolation, which I wouldn't wish on anyone, but. But I realized that's sort of the predominant experience of what we might call our ego or identity. And when you're in that state, to tie it into the health stuff that I'm sure we'll go deeper into today, you have to be in a mild to severe state of survival.
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Right.
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So the sort of second law of thermodynamics, entropy, things that are falling apart, especially if you're in isolation. Like you think in prisons, when they put someone in solitary confinement, that's when they really lose it, right. With primal, primal need of being human is belonging. And so for me, I had this sort of visceral experience of what I would assert is the predominant state of anybody's ego, which is the sense of I and I have to fill in the blank, you know, please my parents, do what my mom wanted me to do, keep my spouse happy, keep the boss, like, so it's all in the realm of survival. And so when I saw that, and then as I got more into sort of what I consider to be this new operating system for humanity that I've created, I recognize that we're by design factory default settings, programmed to make it. Yeah, right. Primordial imperative of every mammal is to survive.
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Yes.
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So in your realm of expertise, and I love everything that you do, and the fact that we've become chums over the years, which is amazing. And you've been very generous with your, you know, locations and next health, which have kept my inner workings going. Well, so I appreciate that. But my blanket statement, which is kind of, you know, it's a little hard for people to hear, but it's also powerful, which is you can't access true vitality until you free your mind.
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That's so true.
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And so that's the way I put it, right? You can have all the bells and whistles like, you know, people, obviously you have them in your beautiful locations. But we work with similar clientele who might have their own hyperbaric at home. They're definitely gonna have the red Light. They do plenty of IVs. You know, they might even have a cryogenic chamber. They do the contrast therapies with cold and hot and. But when I work with them, you find out that they're still being driven by this feeling of inadequacy, insecurity, or scarcity, sort of the three main pillars of survival and fear. So why I love what I get to do, and I speak at the. Some of the same events, even though I might be the outlier, because I'm really talking about mental health, to me, that's the access to true health. Right. So you're obviously well versed in all the physical stuff, which, you know, is phenomenal. But I think if somebody doesn't get out of this internal state of limitation, which then generates the predominant emotion of fear, which we know in the autonomic nervous system, is going to encourage fight or flight sympathetic response, which means just even the basics of digestion aren't going to be great. Sleep is going to be interrupted. You know, the cortisol, the epinephrine, or the adrenaline that you're pumping into your system aren't precursors to rejuvenation.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I said a lot there. But, you know, I mean, this is
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exactly where I'd hope we'd go, because I could tell you from my perspective as a doctor, you know, seeing patients and we are working so hard and they're biomarkers and we're getting them on the right treatment protocols, we're getting their sleep optimized, we're getting their, you know, don't eat this, eat that. And we still sometimes don't make headway. And I am discovering more and more and more the, the connection between mental health, the way you talk about it, and the physical health. And once we can break through the freer mind, which I want to dive into. Yeah. People start making progress all of a sudden. I actually saw this with me in my own personal health journey as well, you know, and it's, it's, it's such an integral part of the story. And I think it's, you know, obviously that's not what we're taught in medical school. Right. There's a broad brain barrier, and nothing here affects this and vice versa. And that's how we're taught. And yeah, it's not. It's absolutely not true. But I do want to make a distinction between, you know, when we talk about mental health in the medical space, we're often, you know, discussing things like schizophrenia and bipolar disorder and what's the medication you can take maybe depression is part of that.
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Yeah.
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And that is one subset of mental health. But I think a lot of people discount thinking about their mental health and they're like, oh, I'm not on any mental health medications, I don't have schizophrenia, everything's fine.
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Yeah.
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And the reality is that only covers like 5% of what's really happening. It's the 95% that you talk about, about living in a state of fear and survival that is the real problem. And the connection. One last thing I want to make there, the connection that I can make from being a physician is living in that state of fear and survival really affects your autonomic nervous system, which is what you mentioned, is that connection between the brain and your body. And one of the measures we have of that is hrv. Right. And so that's only one measure we have. And we're just scratching the surface there, really unpacking this. And I love how deep you've gone into this.
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Yeah.
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And so you mentioned three core pillars of this. Could you mention those again and maybe can we go a little deeper?
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Yeah. So they're just sort of the catch all. But I mean, everything that you shared, there is obviously a lot of overlap. So I just want to make sort of the, the comparison between what I feel are some of the big misnomers in life, which many of which are coming to the surface over the last few years with all of the dystopian kind of society that we seem to be revealing. Right. But that aside, if you look at, when you said mental health people, typically, it's sort of like a paradox. Right. People talk about mental health, but in that context they're talking about mental disease. Right? Right. Schizophrenia, depression, anxiety. So if we look at healthcare with no knock on, like, I mean, you like family member, you're a friend, but I think about all of the people that enter the industry heart centered, want to be of service, want to make a difference, but the actual mechanisms of the industry itself aren't in any way oriented towards health. Right. It's triage, it's emergency, it's intervention. Like if I'm in a car accident for sure, take me to a hospital, I'll be the first to write thank you cards and send flowers to the nurses. Right. But we have to make, as far as I'm concerned, if we're going to be powerful and operate from integrity, which is the power of language. Right. Abracadabra. The Aramaic translation is, as I speak, so I create, so I'm, I did not Know that. Oh, that. Brilliant. Isn't that beautiful? Yeah. So we're all magicians, right?
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It's the power of the word. Right? Yeah.
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So in the beginning was the word. Not that I'm religious, but I pull tenants from all different, like, you know, philosophies. And you recognize wow as I speak, so I create. So if I'm saying I'm an idiot, I'm a loser. I shouldn't have done that. You're actually creating dissonance, Right. Between who you are at the core, divine soul, being, whatever. And then your potentiality, as I would consider a limitless, boundless soul whose inherent nature is freedom, is vitality, like vitality is your birthright. All we can do is at best stem the flow of that, which in Chinese medicine, Ayurveda, is the blockage of qi or prana, which then creates disease. Right. So the downstream effect.
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Right.
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So if we. To go back to the whole point about mental health, if we look at even the moniker healthcare, it's not healthcare. Right. And again, this. People might get a little, you know.
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But I say this all the time.
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Yeah. So it's fine. I mean, I definitely talk about it a lot, as, you know, so it's sick care and disease management, which has a place. But it'.
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The.
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The misnomers of somebody in a white lab coat has got something to do with your health. That they. If you look at the genesis of a doctor, and you can speak to this better than me, you know, you kind of learn, let's keep it simple. Structure, which is anatomy. You learn function, which is physiology and biology. And then you learn, you know, wherever shit goes wrong, which is pathology.
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Exactly.
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And then you learn intervention, which is typically pharmacology. Right. Because all the pharmacies, the pharmaceutical companies are sponsoring a lot of these schools. And then maybe stage five, you might specialize. But if you look at the genesis of what it is to be a doctor, they're experts in pathology.
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Absolutely.
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And so the metaphor I use because, you know, I work with a ton of athletes, I said to my baseball player once, to try and get him to understand the point, I said, if I took you to a coach, would you want to know what he does? He's like, yeah, of course. What does he specialize? I say, he specializes in striking out. He said, why the fuck would I want to go and see a guy? I said, well, precisely. Why would you go and see a doctor? For health.
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Exactly right, exactly.
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Might save your life. But, you know, there's a gradient between, if we understand what Health is. Right. So even in the dictionary, Western dictionary at least, it says health is the absence of disease, right? So that would be the equivalent of saying wealth is the absence of debt.
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Right?
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Which it isn't right. It's the absence of debt. So why I get very passionate and animated about this whole thing is because fundamentally, to your point, mental health is typically the arena of mental health in the Western world has got nothing to do with health. What I'm talking about in terms of mental health is the access to the potentiality of the soul. You are, and I can get poetical there about the divinity of who you are, but that your inherent qualities are freedom, love, joy, power, creativity, value. These are there. But when that is juxtaposed and looking through the filter of the three pillars of inadequacy, insecurity and scarcity as your own personality, then you experience yourself as less than, not enough, not love, not wanted. It's normally a negation in language, like, I'm not something, but if I'm everything, then you're in conflict, right? So again, without getting too philosophical, if who I am at the core is everything, you know, the unified field of consciousness, the quantum realm, my being, my soul, my essence, but my perception of myself is in a negation of that. Now I have suffering, right? And that suffering at the psychological level then cascades downstream and eventually over time, has to manifest in the physiology, depending on, you know, your constitution. If you're built like an ox, you might get away with it for a few decades. If you're not, you're going to have all sorts of sicknesses along the way. So that's, you know, I know again, it's a lot, and maybe people are at home, are like, wait a minute, what? But, you know, I just like to download quickly because people can always rewind and listen. But if people truly want to access health, they have to become at least aware of what are the subtle constraints that typically got stimulated in childhood. I don't want to get, I don't want to say created. There's a lot of this victim mindset that people have, oh, my dad was this, my mom was that. As though that was the causation for my mental issues. It's not. I get very deep into the esoterics, but you arrive with constraints, as far as I'm concerned. That's sort of more the karmic journey and life. You will manifest and curate parents and situations so that you will, through what I call not genetics, but the epigenetics of emotions. Right. So you will turn on certain triggers.
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Yes.
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To help you experience your own feeling of inadequacy, which is what you're here to transcend. So those are the inadequacies, you know, that I'm not enough, the insecurities, I'm not safe, the scarcities of I don't have enough. They're the sort of the broad strokes of what people deal with in everyday life.
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Yeah. And to your point, you know, what I really like about what you're saying is feeling vitality is a birthright. Like, we're born to feel vital. We're not born to put these blocks in place. We just do those just living this modern environment. Right. That we live in. Like, this is where, like, I think from the moment you realize the world you live in, you start putting into place these blocks. Because it is a scary world. There is a lot going on. And then you just do start suffering these, you know, traumas. Whether they be big traumas or little traumas that add up over time. And you just live in this place forever. And you like forever, meaning your entire life. And very few people ever take the time or even believe in the fact that we are universal consciousness and living in the quantum realm with our soul. Right. And so you just even forget the structure exists.
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Unfortunately, it's the ultimate blind spot. Right. It's like with this, those things that we're aware of, right? We know that, for example, that we're here, that we can see each other in that sort of conscious state. But what I'm working with really is subconscious, unconscious. And like Carl Jung had a beautiful quote. He said, until you make the unconscious conscious, it will drive your life, but you'll call it fate. Isn't that beautiful? So that's where we sort of slip into. Well, this is just life. It's hard. It happens to me. Right? And that's that victim mindset, which is fundamentally very disempowering. And then that leads to accusation and blame, where we point fingers at everybody, not realizing that's perpetuating, sustaining our own absence of power.
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Right?
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But to me, to go back to the abracadabra statement, we're all magicians. It's just most people aren't aware of their own power to declare their own life.
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Yes.
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They're doing it unconsciously, like, oh, that always happens to me. I remember I was working with a client first time in London. This is when I started my career 25 years ago, doing more. What I'm doing before, I was more in the physiological world of training and Sculpting bodies. But I realize that's good, but it's not as powerful, Right? You've got to clear this out first. But anyway, I was working with someone, she had to excuse herself, go and use the restroom. And we were starting to. She was starting to understand the power of how she was speaking about herself unconsciously, but nonetheless in a very disempowering way. And she walked into the restroom, she came back in and she had a big smile on her face. And he said, oh my God. I just, I just saw it in action. I'm like, what do you mean? She said, well, there was another woman in the restroom and she went to get the tissue, knock something out and said, oh my gosh, I'm just so clumsy right now. Like, I wonder how long that piece of code has been there, right? That then becomes self fulfilling. Right. And that's where I love what I get to do. Because people have generated, not just in physiological issues, disease, mental disease, but also in their relationships and their finances. Because it has to be an extrapolation of who we are. Right. Our identity is a precursor and commensurate with all the things that happen out there. And so when you shift the internal narrative, it's incredible how quickly the circumstances of our life start to reorient. You know, I've had people in my mastermind. It's a three and a half month program, my biggest offering where I teach these distinctions, where people have. I had a woman, 29, young, but stage four endometriosis. And because she was living in the prison, right? You talk about living in the environment. That is an extension and contributes to the scarcity, lacking in insecurities. But she was living in the prison of. She, she doesn't matter, she's not important.
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Yes.
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So that was something that she experienced as a child, right? Feeling the dismissive energy. Not that her parents were horrible, but that was her experience. What better way to physiologically manifest for a woman her lack of importance than to shut down maybe the, arguably the most powerful thing a woman can do, which is create life.
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Right.
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And so she's like, wow. And then as soon as she saw that wasn't true, which is work is what I call a double negation. So if someone feels they're not good enough, as a simple example, I'm like, where does that live? Am I going to find a tuck behind your kidneys? It's like it's a story, right? So you're not. Not good enough. If we dissolve that, how would you feel? And people like I don't even know. I've never experienced that. But in that, that's where the freedom starts. And then that freedom is a precursor to the whole physiology shifting. And for this woman, I think it took six to eight weeks. Later, she went for a checkup. No endometriosis.
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Wow.
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Didn't do anything apart from shift her internal energetic signature.
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Yeah. You know, I had another. Remind me, another podcast guest. I had Maya. I'm not gonna say her last name right, so I'm not gonna say it right now, but her name is Maya, and she wrote a book about how she had very, very severe inflammatory bowel disease. And she was in the hospital and they were gonna remove her entire colon.
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Yeah.
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And she just started visualizing her way. And in fact, her book is called Visualize. I don't know if you've met her or not, but she's incredible. Very similar story. Just visualizing and telling yourself a different story about what's happening in our gut. Got out of the hospital with no surgery, and she's been living years without disease. And I hear these stories over and over and over again, and the skeptics will say, oh, well, that's just a one off, or, oh, that's mumbo jumbo. But the reality is these stories, they exist, Right. And these are for people that are in stage four endometriosis, inflammatory bowel disease, that are about to get colon removal. Even if 1% of that is true, imagine what a big difference it can make in your life.
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It's massive, right? I mean, one of the big things. I think one of my biggest reels on Instagram is where I talk about suicidal ideation. You know, take it to the extremes where people are just so devastated, whether it be emotionally or even physically, where they've been dealing with sickness for a long time. And you know what I teach people? We have a documentary coming out this year about it. I say, you got to be able to distinguish between the difference of, like, you want to die, which isn't a truth. That's how you feel compared to. There's a part of your narrative that is wanting to die that doesn't serve you anymore. So the feeling of being in the world of, I'm not lovable, nobody wants me, you know, that's devastating. Right. And then it's like, well, what's the point of living? We go into apathy, hopelessness, and then there's that feeling of like, I might as well kill myself. But it's only because of the story and the dialogue that they've been living in for so long that there is that feeling of hopelessness. So it's a powerful distinction. The number of people have come up to me or even comment on my page is so moving. They're like, you. You literally saved my life. Right. Even on that post, people are writing, this reel just saved my life.
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Wow.
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Just to distinguish, like, oh, I don't want to die, but I want to stop feeling like I'm useless, or, nobody cares about me. That's a horrible thought. That goes back to your question at the beginning, when I was 17 and by myself, it's a horrible place to be. And so when people feel like this feel feeling of segregation, separation, that their own parents, perhaps, or even their own spouses don't care about them, if we then do default to worthlessness, you know, and so being able to see these conversations that define us and then lead to physiological manifestation. That's why I use the word dis. Ease. Right. If you really break it down, it's the absence of ease. Ease would be reflective of the parasympathetic. You're in a state of peace. So the woman, Maya, whatever she was saying, I would say for people who might not believe, because I don't really talk about affirmations. Affirmations. It's a crass excuse my French, but it's like whipped cream on shit, usually because you've got the deepest story about yourself, and then you're like, no, I'm a winner. So. And that doesn't work. But Maya obviously tapped into something different, where we gotta look at how those words manifest an energy, how we feel. Right. It has to be visceral and somatic, like people can all day. I work with some of the best athletes in the world, and they can say, I'm a winner, but if they don't believe it, it doesn't do much.
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Absolutely.
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So it's really getting into. Yes, it is. Words. Words carry vibration. They are a certain frequency. But if that's embodied in either direction, you know, it's like Henry Ford's great quote. He said, whether you believe you can or you believe you can't. You're right.
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Yeah.
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I mean, so powerful.
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Right. So true.
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So that's where I love to play with the linguistic, what I call fortresses of what hold people back is these stories of woe, these stories of. Of constraint. And that has to be relative to the nature of who we are. A state of disease. It just has to be.
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Yes.
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You know, if who I am is everything, I'm boundless, timeless, this limitless being. But I'm being corralled by a narrative of sort of limitation. It's like putting this prize horse in a, in a trailer, and it can't move anywhere. After a while, it's going to start to kick and scream.
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Right, Right, exactly. So, like what? Like, you know, I think we can go all the way from someone with suicidal ideation all the way up to the athlete that's trying to improve their game. And, you know, I, I, you know, you talked about both of them within the same few sentences, and it's so true.
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Yeah.
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This applies to everyone. Whether you're in a state of. Right. Like in a horrible state where you're about to, you know, take your own life all the way up to, you know, you're on the court just doing extremely well, and you just want to add that little edge. It still helps, right?
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Massively. I mean, I often make this analogy, which for some people is jarring, but, you know, here in la, I'm not here often, but I lived here a while ago and, you know, there's a lot of homeless, Right?
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Yes.
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And so I was helping somebody understand the mechanics of how our subconscious, based on how we react to it, could delineate two very different lives, but nonetheless be driven by the same fundamentals. Right. So you could go into Santa Monica. You see a guy driving his G Wagon. He has a corner office and maybe has a house out here in Malibu or the Palisades or whatever. And so it looks like on the surface he's doing great. Conversely, you could be outside of the guy's office building and there's a dude who's there with a sleeping bag and a piece of cardboard saying, please help. What I want people to understand is that the, the deepest level of somebody's identity, they might have the same code. What that means is to keep it simple, they might both think that they're not enough. Perhaps the executive who's making his, you know, three, 400 grand a year, his not enough was that his father would constantly criticize him. Maybe he played Little League as a kid, and it was just, he would get in the car and even though he went 3 for 4, 4 for 5, you know, he batted a good game. His dad was always, well, what happened to the fifth at bat? And I actually had an MLB guy like that who was one of the best. He would go 4 for 5, batting.800. For people who don't follow baseball, that's pretty damn good. Yeah, but he would still kind of like, look sullen and we're like, well, what's up? He's like, well, you know, I could have gone. And it's like, where did you learn that? Well, my dad, you know. So anyway, to finish the point.
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Yeah.
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The. The person who was perhaps berated, belittled and shamed, sometimes the ego's compensation is I will disprove the way that people see me. Right. So sort of Kobe's renowned for that a little bit. Kobe Bryant. Right. It's like, if someone says you can't do something, I'm going to show them that I can.
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Yes.
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It's a defiant attitude. So that's where we could say that there's a degree of survival that's based in will, where I'm gonna show you what I can do. What people don't understand is you're still being driven by the same mechanisms, which is fear. So that person might have, you know, he'd probably be on a beta blocker for high blood pressure. Might be a second marriage, because there's a lot of friction in the marriage and there's this perfectionism that is sort of the compensation or the coping strategy for the inadequacy. Now, let's cut to the guy who's out in the streets. He's not enough. And he was shamed and belittled, same mechanics. But he bought into it. Like, this is who I am.
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Yeah.
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Right. So we either have the. The antithesis where I'm trying to disprove it, or I will just buy straight into it. And so the mechanics of how life manifests looks different, but it's really being driven by the same fundamental subconscious narrative. Isn't that fascinating?
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Incredible. I almost think of, like, two twins being raised in the same household.
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Yeah.
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But the same dad that's, you know, berating them for, you know, not getting the fifth at bat.
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Yeah.
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And one believes that, one doesn't. But they end up in a completely different place because of that. Just that belief. Right. Over time, it's. It's.
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And that's where I think, you know, even for parents, like, which I help a lot because they are so, in a beautiful way, conscientious about how they raise their kids. Right. As you can probably attest to. But what I reckon, what I tell people is, first of all, you can't mess it up. Every soul contract is there. Right. Your kids have attracted you for whatever, like, idiosyncrasies you have, whether you're like, hopefully like a very loving, unconditionally caring parent who wants nothing but the best. And sadly, Some kids grow up in a family where the parents are a little bit more absent or dismissive. Right. Which I don't, I don't condone that. But no kid grows up in the same house because they have their own view of life. Everybody has their own perspective. Isn't that fascinating? So even twins, you know, where genetically you've got this mirror, but the actual fundamentals of the soul and the journey that they're here to pursue can be vastly different. So that's where kids, you know, for me, they're just so fascinating. Especially I'm not a parent, but I've helped so many parents and then kids who are of theirs. But I just feel like it's fascinating to meet the being and what is their own story? What is it that they're here to fundamentally discover and transcend? You know, So I think for parents we got to understand that, wow, you know, you could have kids that you're like, you're like, wait, is this even our kid? You know, it's like genetically of course, but like the emotional, intellectual components of why that child chose you. There could be vastly different stories.
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Exactly.
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One kid could become the A student, the other one could struggle with some drug addiction.
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Right. And you know, I'm a parent of two kids. Yeah, you met them actually.
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Yeah.
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Dubai, 12 and 9. I think about this all the time. It's, you know, what are the decisions I can make as a parent that could hopefully lead to a life where they are free?
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Yes, right, yeah.
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Because, you know, I grew up in an environment that I was like, you know, I got an A minus. Why didn't you get an A plus? Right, right. I got, I had lots of constraints put on me. Right. And I don't know if the opposite of that is necessarily the best way. Like, I don't want them running amok and just doing whatever they want.
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No, no, no, no, no. It's funny, it's like anything like in Ayurveda, you know, when I first studied Ayurveda 25 years ago, first of all, I was in shock, but in awe. Like I was like, finally someone knows what they're talking about.
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Right?
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Because it's not like this man made system of the balanced diet or the south beach diet or eat right for your blood type. You know, they all have contributing factors, but this is based on the elements of the universe. Right. You've got space, air, fire, water and earth. And it's like they all have their inherent qualities. I was like, wow. So then I recognized that there is a predilection to certain expressions, both psychologically and physiologically. Right. So we do the best we can. But within Ayurveda, we recognize that health is dynamic. It's not static. Right. People think like, oh, I want to be healthy or I want to get to my potential. Like it's sort of this final, like this finish line, destination. No, depending on your age, depending on the season. Especially if you live in a place that does have seasons, you know, LA doesn't have so much, you know, that there's depending on the cycles of the day. If you're a woman, I mean, you're going to go through all of your four stages, right? From menstruation, follicular ovulation, luteal, you know, you are, while constantly being a different human. And so to be able to incorporate that with a little bit more grace and compassion for ourselves. So certainly when it comes to kids, when they're already going through this process of metamorphosis, especially when they get into their teens, you know, that sounds right there.
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Yeah.
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It's never static and that both can be at times trying. But also it's the beauty of life that we are constantly giving the opportunity to reconfigure, to reorient. You know, like the old adage of the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second time is now. Well, the same is true of your own health, your own aspirations. You know, you could sit there and I've had so many people that are just in their wallowing state because, ah, you know, I just feel like I should be further on with my life, you know, compared to where I look at my, my colleagues from school or I look at my, you know, friends at work and they all seem to be so much further ahead than me, you know. Well, okay. Having that thought is only going to perpetuate the very underlying malaise that has you not get on with your life. Right. And so it's self perpetuating. So for me, health, wellness, mental health, all your dreams and aspirations, it's all available now. Right. And if you make a choice that is really towards something versus away from something, the ego's typically trying to get away from something, you know, even something proactive like going to the gym to get in shape at the beginning of the year, people are typically driven by, well, my doctor said I got to get off my statins or I got to lose weight. I'm close to type 2 diabetes. So you're being driven by what you don't want.
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Right?
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That's back to the definition of health, the absence of disease versus if you can start to go, okay, if I was completely free. And we did a prompt recently on my Instagram that elicited a big reaction, which is I said, just ask yourself one question. Who could you be in the absence of your concerns? And it's sort of a little like, if you didn't have any concern, who could you be? And it sort of taps into that underlying sense of possibility that I would assert is our birthright. Right. We see that in kids. Kids are just everything's possible.
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Yeah.
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So that to me is like being able to. Whether it's a parent, whether it's the child, whether you're in a midlife crisis, whatever it is you're going through, you do right now have the opportunity to hit the reset button. It might be some cleaning up to do in housekeeping. You know, if you've been acting a certain way, behaving, you've had a habit that's, you know, alcohol, whatever, you know, there's going to be the byproduct of that over time. Right. But you do have the opportunity to make a new choice today in terms of what is it that you truly. If you were free, which you are underneath it all, what would it be that you would do for yourself? And throw in a little bit of. And self worth in there. Because self destruction is typically the byproduct of not having much self worth. But if you could couple those, that I'm free and I'm the only me on the planet, that's worth something. Right. That should inspire some reverence.
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Right, Right.
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I always joke the, the expression, yeah, you're one in a million. Like, you know, that's like a compliment. I'm like, but there's 8 billion. That means you're 1 in 8,000. It's really not that special.
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Exactly.
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There's another 7,900.
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Right.
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No, you're 1 in 8 billion. And if you really get that, you would treat with a slightly different perspective.
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Yeah. You know, I think the thoughts you put into your mind are so powerful about where you are right now, what you've been through.
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B
Yeah.
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And it's easier just as a human to put those thoughts into words sometimes to really solidify them. So to your point earlier, like, the. What you're saying and what you're actually coming out of your. Out of your lips is so important. Right. And then also, I find also writing really solidifies as well. So I'm a big. I do a lot of journaling, a lot of My journaling is about, you know, like. Like you said, like, freeing my brain to just really go into places that if I were not constrained, where would I be? Right. And so that's also been helpful for me. And I'm just trying to give, like, you know, what are some steps people can do to actually turn this thought into a practice? Right. So do you have other things that people can.
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Sure. I mean, I think the two you just cited are like, imperative. Right. Because when we're by ourselves, you're in the car driving, you're in the shower, you're going to bed at night, can't sleep, you're sort of left with your own internal dialogues. And what happens is it's so the proximity to the idea of ourself, it's so close. Right. Like, we think the voice in our head is us.
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Yes.
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But if we just break that down very subtly. In the world of physics, if you're aware of something, you can't be it. Right. The observer and the observed. So even your thoughts, the fact that you're aware of them means they. They can't be you or you can't be them. However, to your point, to create a little bit of extra ease and separation, write it down, journal or preferably speak to someone who you know has your back. Right. That's the beauty of friendships, relationships, is to speak into a safe space. And ideally, with somebody who knows how to listen, they have presence and they care, and maybe they have some powerful reflection. So, you know, if I were to say I had a superpower of some kind, it's really the ability to truly listen. Yes. And this is something I work with all my corporate people, like leaders who want to be great, you know, CEOs and C suites and founders is they're often under the misinterpretation that it's incumbent upon them to tell people what to do. But I always say, we've got two ears and one mouth, you know, and so use them proportionately so to listen. Isn't that cool? Yeah. So. So for me, that would be. The first thing is get it out on pen and paper. So it creates.
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Yeah.
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You know, even as though you could almost write it as an exercise. I. Sometimes people like. Well, who do you go to? Like, you help everybody around the world. So sometimes I will literally write as though I am speaking to myself. I mean, people now doing it a little bit on AI, which I don't want to, but we've got an AI coming out. I met a guy at this conference, I was like, yesterday he's like, dude, oh my God, I'm such a big fan. I literally have an avatar of you.
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A
Oh, my gosh. He's created his own avatar of you.
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B
Yeah. So I don't want to put that out there because we're creating the real deal, so we're actually creating my own. So that's coming soon, but I can't wait. Yeah, it's going to be super cool. It's insane. Like, I mean, I studied it as well, so I'm a little bit in the tech world. But what's. What they're able to do today is like, it's literally my voice. It's all the things. But anyway, so I would even write down whatever I believe is on my mind, whatever I think that I'm struggling with. I might then leave it for a day or two, because if you're still in that state, because emotionally, whatever you're writing about, typically you're going to have the charge that is obviously associated with, like, you know, someone might say, well, my mom said, da, da, da. And it really pissed me off. Well, you're now in that state of mild fight or flight, right? So you're not going to have clarity. You're not going to access your. Your intelligence from that place, leave it for a day or two, come back to it, read it as though it was a friend of yours, and what sort of counsel or guidance would you give them?
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Right?
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So that's. That's one way, in terms of those stories, you know, just the physical stuff that people talk about, which you obviously have mentioned so many times on your show. You know, moving your body itself is a form of therapy, Right. Like, people talk about exercise and it tends to be appearance focused. Right. People want six packs and, like, tight abs and buns and all that's great. But actually, physiologically, from an Ayurveda perspective, oftentimes movement is less to do with, you know, your sculpting of your body and more to do with the refinement of your systems. Right. By detoxing, sweating, Right. We have the three primary waste channels. Feces, urine, and sweat.
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Right.
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And it's amazing how many people struggle with all of them. But most don't sweat at all.
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No.
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Right. Especially as you get into the adult life. You know, you may even struggle with consistent bowel movements. And urination obviously, has got its own fleet of issues, but to sweat is invariably one of the ways that you're just going to get all of the, you know, the neurotransmitting is the epinephrines and all of this, you know. Yeah. That feeling, the endorphin. Sorry. Where you feel different. Just you can change your state from the outside into. So I mean just if you really want to get into the psychology for sure. Journal, talk to a good friend. Praying. Some people will do. Because even though you're still in your head, you feel. I think praying's an interesting phenomenon because regardless of the background of the religion, there's this underlying context that people feel they can say whatever they need to say because it's God or it's whoever they're talking to. And that itself is liberating because most people don't have that level of self expression even in their own family. Right. They feel like, well, you can't say that in front of mom or that will piss dad off.
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Right.
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And so there's more constraint. Right.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, those are some of the easy hanging fruit, I would say.
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I love it. And these are all steps that you give people that are trying to free their mind. Right. And. And yeah, I think that also, you know, a lot of people come to you when they're at a crossroads in their life. They're struggling with something. They are. Or maybe something really bad is going to happen. Like you mentioned, like people that want to take their own life.
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Yeah.
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And you probably see a lot of people there because now they're desperate for some help. Right. But I think the important point to make there is this is. Should be a routine for even that people that feel pretty good or people that are just living life and just are they think, you know, I think a lot of times like you don't stop exercising when you feel like you're strong, you just, you have to keep going. Right.
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B
I would say, I mean it's a valid point and we definitely get some of those, those demographics that show up who are in a state of like true disease and desperation without having an actual like Excel spreadsheet of the stat. I would say that 90 plus percent of the people that find me.
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A
Yeah.
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Who are members of my freedom community, which is just access to all sorts of courses, who do my mastermind, who come to my live events, which you must come. I have one on June 7th in LA and a big one in London on my calendar. Yeah. They are, I would say 90% of the time they're what we would call the first standard deviation of humans. They don't necessarily have any outlying problems psychologically, emotionally or physically. They're just driven or inspired by possibility.
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Ah.
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So like as you said the scale, the gamut runs from, yes, someone who's suicidal to I work with some of the greatest athletes in the world. They certainly are being paid millions of dollars to perform. Their woes are vastly different than somebody who's got depression, anxiety or like, is experiencing grief. But nonetheless, their commitment to accessing the full extent of their potential is what draws them to these conversations. You know, it gets, again, sort of the start of my book, which I'm still writing and I've been for years. Anyone who's following me is like, he's been talking about this for way too long. But anyway, I say that, you know, the current dialogues that we have as part of our ego are insufficient to give rise to the potentiality of our soul. If you really get that, it's quite like, it's very.
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A
Say that one more time.
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B
And the current dialogues and narratives of our ego and our identity, the way that we speak about ourselves.
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Right.
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The inadequacy, insecurities, get like, I'm not enough, I'm not loved. Those dialogues and narratives are insufficient to give rise to the potentiality of the soul.
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Yeah, makes sense.
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B
Does that make sense?
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Right.
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B
So think about it this way. Like, you know, if you like, this room is, I don't know, a couple hundred square feet. It's not huge. Right. But it's sufficient and it's perfect for a podcast. But it's insufficient to give rise to the potentiality of throwing a 300 person wedding.
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Sure.
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B
Do you see? Or to host the Olympics.
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Right, Right.
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B
So when you look at it that way. So people's narratives is like what I call these invisible prisons that people live in. Somebody who's literally behind bars in San Quentin, that's insufficient to give rise to their potential. To have a family, to start a business.
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Business.
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B
Because they're in prison.
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A
Right.
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B
So that's what I'm busting open is so you don't have to have the malaise of like these harder issues that people deal with, which I'm happy to help people with. It's predominantly people who are like, they just know there's more to them and there's more to life, but they don't know how to access it.
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A
They don't know how to access it.
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B
Right.
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A
And accessing it involves breaking down that prison.
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B
Those stories.
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A
Exactly.
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To see what's available. Like I said, who could you be in the absence of your concern? So my methodology is. Is like the Carl Jung quote, bring the unconscious conscious. Right. So first of all, it's awareness. Wow. Since the age of Five. My brother was a better athlete, so I thought I was less than. Or my sister was a better academic, so I thought I wasn't as good or I wasn't as loved. And that's been there for 40 years. And this person is now struggling with anxiety, with presentations at work. Right? The middle management, why am I not getting the promotion? But it's like, wow, I've lived for four decades thinking I'm less than. Cause my brother was faster, stronger. Well, he was three years older. He should have been right? But that dialogue is nonetheless the invisible prison. It's so fascinating why I love what I do when I work with people. In my Mastermind, you see the lights go on for the first time. It's so moving. And people are like, oh my God. I have thought for 40 years that I'm not safe. And that's why I have gut issues, I have tremors, I struggle with anxiety or I felt that I'm not wanted. And so I have struggled in relationships because maybe they were an orphan. So they equated that to, well, my parents were great, but really biologically I was discarded. So now they're like, wherever they go, they look through the lens of I'm not wanted.
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A
Right? Oh, wow.
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B
But it's just a story. And when that's removed, it's like heaven on earth gets revealed.
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A
That's amazing. So if I were to attend on June 7, you said in LA you have this is a one day mastermind.
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B
No, my life events are just. The one in LA is two, two and a half hours. The one in London's a little longer, we have a bigger venue. But no, my life events, it's just I riff for a little bit. You know, I tend to have a bit more comedic value on stage. Like if people go to my Instagram, there's one recently that people, oh, I love that. With the woman who wants to get pregnant and she's like, I want to get pregnant. That's not part of my service.
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A
But I laughed out loud for that one. I reshared. That one is one of the best ones.
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B
Yeah, that's gone bonkers. It's like three plus million views across all platforms. But anyway, that gives you a glimpse of. So I don't know, I've never met that woman before. And then during the course of that conversation, she started to feel the energetic shift. She said, wow, I feel a warmth in my womb, not having had a cycle for 20 years, obviously collapsed with a lot of, you know, traumas from her past. So that's What I do in the lives is people, random people now know that they come there hoping that I'll pick them to help them undo some of the subconscious programming that's holding them back in life.
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A
Yeah. And every individual is very unique in this.
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B
Oh my God. But yet the beauty is that you can vicariously. Yes. You know, like people in the Mastermind, we have people From, I think 30 plus countries from all around the world because it's online, you know, I don't, I can't get to everyone. There's virtual hands up, you know, hundreds of them for sure. But I, whoever I work with, if I were to click through gallery screen on zoom, like you can just see the number of people who are crying because it's not them I'm speaking to, but it's the same dynamics and the same story, different details, different dad name, different brother. But the underlying feeling of like, oh, I'm useless is what they commonality you
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can apply there for sure.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And what I love is you told me about your podcast. We actually diving in in these stories and anyone listening can, I'm sure, find someone in one episode that's exactly what they're experiencing.
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B
I mean, my team, you know, some of them have been now with me for seven years and they are at the end of each module, the Mastermind's eight modules over three and a half months. Majority of them will text or email or. Cool. And they're like, how come I've been seeing this for five, six years and it still moves me? I'm like, well, you're still human. And there's nothing more powerful than the Witness somebody break out of their own prison. So that's what we do on the podcast. Yeah. People submit from my community. You have to be part of the membership, but you can submit videos if you want to help. And I love the format because it's very unique. I don't. You know, if I had my own traditional, I'd have the likes of you and friends like Zach Bush, Joe Dispenza. They would all come on and we'd chat, which is great. But then there's thousands of those. Right. You're doing a great job. I don't need to replace this, but I get to show people the process of awakening, the process of overcoming limitation by working with everyday people. And thus far we've only got, I think 15, 16 episodes out. We've only just started, but they've already gone gangbusters. Yeah.
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A
You're killing it.
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B
Yeah, it's amazing, it's fun, it's just, oh, I love it because it's easy for you and I, we're lucky. We get to work with pretty extraordinary people. I've got the best of the best. And as I said, sports, people, business, entertainment. But I'm, I'm a journeyman. I, you know, I came from nothing. I came to the States for 200 bucks. My parents had died. I love to help everyday people. You know, it's fun, of course, to get taken to different events and speak at some of these nice conferences we go to, but when I get stopped walking around and someone's in tears like, you saved my life, you changed my life. My mom just loves you, you know, that's like, that's where the good stuff is for me. You know, it's like, because people, people are, are suffering. There's a lot of struggling out there and, and seemingly worse than ever right now with the way the world seems to be heading. So anything that I can do to bring freedom, love and possibility, I'm all for it.
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A
Yeah. It's such an incredible mission that you have and I love the message that you're spreading. It's very impactful for me to bring this to the listeners.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Of this podcast, because this could literally be the missing key that unlocks everything, is if you take this and you take the next steps, perhaps by listening to one of your podcasts and then doing your mastermind community, it can definitely unlock that final piece of health that people are really looking for.
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B
I feel, I hope so. I mean, I love using analogies and because I think most of us are kind of visual where we've got all of the faculties, but like, when you can see things, I say if you and I, we decided to, you know, buy a bit of a dumpy studio down in Santa Monica, we saw the prospect. It was getting gentrified. You know, it's a 500 square foot unit.
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A
It.
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B
But it's, let's face it, probably had some sketchy action, you know, drugs, whatever. The carpet's a mess, the appliances don't work, there's mold in the drywall. But you and I are like, you know what, let's pick it up. It's 400 grand. We can do it up and we'll rent it. Whatever. We saw it as a prospect. We go in there, we rip out the carpet, we put in beautiful wood floor. You and I would have good taste. We put in wolf appliances. We'd strip it down to the studs, we'd get rid of the mold because we know that's not going to help. We clean it out and people come by, go, whoa, this is like a brand new place. Yeah, it's cool. You can rent it. Da da better. That's called improvement.
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A
Right.
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I'm in the biz. So what happens is that is for sure a much better way of living. And I would attest that your, your listeners, that's the realm that they mostly function.
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A
Right.
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B
Right. Like, okay, if I can try some of these IV therapies or maybe I do the inner phoresis, which is obviously high end, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna start doing saunaing. What I want people to consider as an invitation is that's improving the space you still live in.
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A
Yeah.
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What I'm doing is knocking down walls and realizing that 500 square foot studio is part of a 20,000 square foot space. And so there's a lot more possibility otherwise. And this is a part that hurts, but it's powerful for people here. Otherwise you're just becoming the best version of your limited self. And that's better than not. But for my work, I want to introduce people to the world of limitless possibility.
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A
I love it. I didn't want to say anything after that because that's a mic drop moment that you ended this with. So I really, really appreciate you coming and introducing us to your world and also everything that you've created and your incredible advice. You're one of the most intelligent and, you know, people that I've ever had on the, ever had on the podcast and I know it's around these topics and I'm really appreciate you bringing this here. Finally been trying to make this happen for a long time, so thank you.
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B
Well, it's a pleasure always to be with you. You're just such a beautiful human and I. You're touching the lives of many people with your, like, your locations and next health and all the stuff you do on Instagram and it's a, it's a joy to be around people like you. You know, it's. I'm just grateful for the opportunity to come on platforms like yours with people who care. They want to do well. I think for the most part, you know, we see some of the atrocities happening in the world and it breaks my heart, but I always say that, you know, they're the few. Right. Like who, it's sad to say, but I think intentionally are trying to hurt people or whatever it is the agenda is. Right.
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A
Right.
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B
But what I like to see is that, you know, that 99 percentile of human beings like the listeners today, they're good people. They want to, you know, have the best marriage they can, they want to raise good kids, they want to put their kids in healthy, safe schools. They want to take care of themselves as best they can whilst they're trying to put food on the table. And if I can say something that might just nudge the needle a little bit and bringing some more freedom and ease into their life, then for me, that's a life worth living. So thank you for giving me that opportunity.
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A
Well, thank you for, for, for being here.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Peter, can you give us all of your places that we can find you? I mean, I follow you on social media, obviously, but if you can give your handles and your website specifically and where they can potentially see you in person, for sure.
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B
It's all very simple. It's just my name. So it's PeterKrohn.com for website, it's Peterkrohn for Instagram, Facebook, I think is Peter Krohn the mind architect. LinkedIn is Peter Krohn. It's, you know, you see the theme, so it's pretty easy. And then in terms of live events, sense, depending on when this comes out. I have one in LA June 7th. I think we have another one in July. No, we have a big one in London on June 20 and then one in middle of July sometime. But it's all on the website under. Yeah, Coaching and events.
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A
And your middle of July, when is where?
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B
I think it's July 15th.
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A
You know where it is.
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B
Oh, sorry, it's in LA again.
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A
Oh, it's in LA again. Okay. So people have a couple of opportunities.
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B
Yeah, we're gonna start doing a tour. It's so flattering. We get asked to go everywhere. Yeah, you know, there's like, when are you coming to Australia? Which I will be, by the way. Middle end of September. We're going to do a big event, I think, in Holland at some point. People, you know, just very kind want to go. I'm speaking in Sweden in June, but that's private. And then Germany and so.
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A
Yeah, yeah, you're all over the world.
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B
Yeah, it's fun. Like you, you know, people, wherever you go, people are there and they sadly suffer. And if I can do something to alleviate that, then I'll go.
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A
No, I can't wait to attend. Thank you so much.
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B
Thank you.
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A
Thanks. Here are my top five learnings from Peter. Free your mind for true vitality. Physical health interventions often fall short if underlying mental and emotional constraints, such as feelings of inadequacy or scarcity are not addressed. True vitality is unlocked by first freeing the mind from these limiting beliefs. Number two your words create your reality. The language you use to describe yourself and your life is incredibly powerful. As Peter Kron says, as I speak, so I create meaning. Your self talk actively shapes your experiences and physiological state. 3. Mental Health vs. Mental Disease Western medicine often equates mental health with mental disease like schizophrenia or depression. However, true mental health, as Crohn defines transit, is about accessing the inherent potential, freedom and vitality of your being. Number four Subconscious Narratives drive everything. Our lives are driven by subconscious narratives, often stimulated in childhood, that dictate our sense of self worth, safety and abundance. Recognizing and dissolving these hidden stories is key to transforming life circumstances and Number five Disease as disease, many physical ailments can be traced back to a state of dis ease or the absence of ease at the psychological level. Chronic stress and limiting beliefs manifest physiologically, impacting everything from digestion to immune function. Thank you so much for listening to the podcast today. Please remember to subscribe if you like this episode and give us a good review and share a link with your friends. It really helps to support all of our efforts. I also want to remind you that the information shared on this podcast is for educational purposes only and is not intended to replace professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Please consult with your healthcare provider or physician before making any decisions or taking any action based on what you hear today, especially if you have any underlying health conditions or on any medications. Your doctor knows your personal health situation the best and it's always important to seek their guidance.