Podcast Summary: EXTRA ANORMAL
Episode: Brujería con la Santa Muerte y rituales en la Cárcel | Historias macabras de Criminales
Host: Paco Arias
Guest: C. (exintegrante de grupos delictivos y sobreviviente)
Date: August 19, 2025
Overview
In this chilling episode of EXTRA ANORMAL, Paco Arias sits down with a returning guest—an ex-criminal who lived through both the terrors of Mexican organized crime and the paranormal. Together, they delve into the spine-tingling overlap of crime, brujería (witchcraft), devotion to la Santa Muerte, and the brutal rituals that permeate prisons and the underworld. Through personal testimonies and listener stories, the episode exposes unsettling truths about power, fear, and the price some pay to survive in these circles.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
The Overlap of Crime and the Paranormal
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Frequent Paranormal Events in Crime Life ([03:14])
- C. explains that experiencing paranormal phenomena is "pan de todos los días" (everyday stuff) for those involved in organized crime. From unexplainable sounds to allegedly seeing victims after their deaths, the constant violence in “la maña” stirs up strong, uncontrollable energies.
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Devotion to La Santa Muerte
- High-ranking crime bosses often have deep spiritual rituals, such as grand offerings to la Santa Muerte, seeking invisibility, invulnerability, or success. C. shares that some leaders seem possessed or mentally unhinged, eliciting both fear and supernatural speculation among their followers ([05:37]).
Brujería, Vengeance, and Residual "Trabajos"
- A Personal Curse: Story of Brujería ([10:04] – [26:07])
- C. recounts a harrowing personal experience following his prison release. After ending a relationship with a woman he met during incarceration, he and his new partner began suffering mysterious, debilitating intimate problems.
- A ritual cleansing reveals a supernatural “trabajo” (curse) placed by the ex, involving a photo taken at an altar to la Santa Muerte during a major prison feast (Día de los Muertos).
- During a limpia, C. sees a vision in cotton burned for the ritual—the very photo from the shrine. The curandera later discovers a magical jar with the photo and a bound representation of C.’s genitalia, confirming the brujería was meant for vengeance, to debilitate him intimately.
- After intense rituals and spiritual intervention, C. and his partner finally break free, culminating in a graphic scene where the brujería is “expulsada” from his partner’s body in the form of a tar-like substance ([24:02]).
- Memorable Quote (C., [18:34]):
“Fue como una visión, se hizo la impresión en el algodón de esa foto... como si fuera una impresión de una playera, pero adentro traía la figura de un aparato reproductor masculino con vendas, con hilos, con estambres, amarrado.”
Listener Stories: Horror in the Narco Underworld
- The Tale of Joaquín & “La Patrona” ([26:07] – [38:56])
- A listener shares a story of his brother, a cartel member, who returns home in terror, begging not to be “taken.” He recounts that cartel leaders have secret, horrifying rituals, especially in rural outposts where they maintain shrines adorned with human bones.
- Traitors or those marked for punishment are locked in these shrines, left screaming for days before an entity dubbed “La Patrona”—described as feminine and feared even more than death—“punishes” them without leaving visible injuries, causing immense agony from within.
- The brother vanishes after a desperate escape, leaving only the horror and mystery behind.
- Notable Quote (Joaquín’s brother, as related by Paco, [37:22]):
“Prefiero mil veces que me manden a mí al otro mundo ya, a que me lleven allá... se empezaban a quemar desde dentro y eran unos gritos desesperados.”
Prison Rituals, Torture, and Offerings to La Santa Muerte
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Life Inside “El Penal” ([41:20] – [51:40])
- C. vividly describes the infamous “Rondín 2” area in prison—nicknamed “el infierno”—where torture is normalized, and violence is offered as a tribute to la Santa Muerte, whom inmates refer to as “La Madrina.”
- New inmates suffer brutal hazing and tortures such as “el capullo” (being wrapped and hung up), “el vampirito” (suspended nearly upside down), and severe beatings—each blow or act given “por la madrina” ([43:35]).
- Hands are burned for theft, and those caught “débiles” face psychological and physical torment, all sanctioned by internal codes of the criminal brotherhood.
- Impactful Moment (C., [45:37]):
“El dolor de estas personas como un tipo... reverencia, entre más una ofrenda de dolor para la madrina.”
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Most Disturbing Tortures ([48:31] – [51:40])
- C. recalls the worst tortures: needles or the removal of fingernails, broken fingers, and being forcefully shocked with live electrical wires—experiences that have left him with ongoing physical issues.
- Quote (C., [50:50]):
“A mí la investigación... me dejaron en paz con los toques, pero me pusieron... dos cables conectados a la luz... yo nada más miré blanco y se me acabó el dolor.”
The Weight of Pacts, Witchcraft, and Survival
- Listener Story: El Pacto del Sicario ([52:11] – [68:41])
- Paco reads an epic narrative from a listener in Veracruz, who details how poverty and desperation drove his brother Beto to seek out a supernatural pact. Haunted their entire life by a levitating, monstrous female apparition, Beto finally bargains: he’ll shed blood in exchange for money to save their dying father.
- This sets Beto on the path of a sicario—his family’s lifeline, but also marked by supernatural debt and loss of innocence, forever bound to a world of violence.
- Quote (Beto, via brother’s account, [64:19]):
“Perdóneme, pero no tengo opción.” (Before killing his first victim for the pact.)
Reflection, Redemption, and Warnings
- Leaving Crime & Attempting Redemption ([68:41] – [73:02])
- C. confesses the impossibility of escaping “bien librado” from a criminal life—success and power are fleeting, always ending in suffering, loss, or spiritual contamination.
- He expresses gratitude for his chance at change and his intention to warn others, underscoring the need for hope and transformation.
- Quotes:
- C. ([69:23]): “Me siento un sobreviviente... pero es muy difícil, muy difícil. Se tienen que alinear todos los planetas para salir bien librado... nunca te imaginas que eso se tiene que acabar y no va a acabar bien.”
- Paco ([70:35]): “Este camino... hay dos de dos, o la cárcel o la muerte. Y una persona que salga de todo eso yo creo que es de gran bendición.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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C. reflecting on normalized violence ([03:14]):
“Vi cómo desvivieron a esta persona, pero también vi que después... decían que lo habían visto en otro lado... Son demasiadas las energías que se mueven cuando andas recio en la maña.” -
Paco pointing out how brujería feeds off trauma ([25:05]):
“Qué impresionante cómo se manifiesta la propia brujería y sale, es expulsada del cuerpo, como se ha visto en tantas liberaciones...” -
C. on survival and vigilance ([74:00]):
“Yo veo a los chavos cómo se van metiendo y sienten la necesidad de tener todos los lujos y no miran... el final que podía tener.”
Timestamps for Important Segments
- Paranormal Experiences in Crime — [03:14]
- Devotion to La Santa Muerte in Criminal Hierarchies — [05:37]
- Story: C.’s Curse with Photo Ritual — [10:04] – [26:07]
- Listener Testimony: “La Patrona” and Unnameable Fates — [26:07] – [38:56]
- Prison Rituals and Torture as Offerings — [41:20] – [51:40]
- Listener Story: “El Pacto del Sicario” from Veracruz — [52:11] – [68:41]
- Reflections on Change and Redemption — [68:41] – [74:50]
Final Thoughts & Takeaways
The episode doesn’t just tell horror stories—it serves as a dark mirror for society’s lost youth and a warning of the spiritual, psychological, and tangible costs of choosing the path of crime. The lines between the paranormal and real-life violence blur in these circles, and the price of survival is often the soul. Both host and guest urge listeners: while the underworld promises quick rewards, it inevitably ends in pain, loss, or a fate “peor que la muerte”.
