Faith Life Church Podcast: Voices of Victory

Guest: Nancy Dufresne

Date: June 29, 2025 | Sunday, 11AM

Host: Pastors Gary & Drenda Keesee
Location: Faith Life Church, New Albany, Ohio

Episode Overview

In this powerful episode, Pastors Gary and Drenda Keesee host evangelist and teacher Nancy Dufresne, whose ministry emphasizes living victoriously in Christ. Nancy brings clear, revelatory teaching on the importance of the local church and pastoral authority, activating faith for the miraculous, and understanding one’s identity “in Christ.” Through rich teaching, anecdotes, and ministry time, the message centers on honor, action, and the ongoing power of God for healing and provision.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Importance of the Local Church & Pastoral Office

• Nancy opens by honoring the pastoral role and local church community, emphasizing that a strong spiritual covering provides protection and direction for believers.
  • “Never let anyone diminish your pastor in your eyes, because what that does, we only receive to the measure we honor.” (06:40)
  • Dufresne explains that while all fivefold ministry gifts (apostle, prophet, evangelist, teacher, pastor) are valuable, “the pastoral office is the most important office of the fivefold” for the sheep because pastors live among and care for their flock (05:40–08:20).
• Choosing the right church is a matter of spiritual direction, not convenience. “There’s no such thing as the church of your choice. God knows who carries the mantle for your life.” (14:00)

2. The Role of Honor and Refusing Offense

• Nancy urges believers to highly honor the voices God appoints—both pastors and spiritual mentors, recounting her own intentional choice never to be offended with her spiritual father and husband.
  • “Offense is a choice. It’s beneath a faith person.” (16:50)
• Divine connections carry your destiny and safety; keeping your heart right ensures continuous spiritual flow (15:00–19:00).

3. Renewed Mind as Defense Against the Enemy

• The greatest defense for Christians is a renewed, disciplined mind; you cannot cast out an unrenewed mind, but must renew it with the Word (27:30).
  • Nancy references her books “Answer It,” “A Sound, Disciplined Mind,” and “Peace: Living Free From Worry” as practical tools (24:45).
  • “Your greatest defense against the devil is a renewed mind.” (28:00)
• She emphasizes the necessity of hearing and following both the Word and the Spirit for correct, destiny-shaping decisions (32:00).

4. Understanding Spiritual Warfare—Stand in Christ

• Exegesis of Ephesians 6:10–12: We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against spiritual forces. However, the real fight is about refusing to be “swayed” from God’s Word and plan.
  • “The devil is constantly wanting to sway you. So don’t be swayed—off the Word. Stand on the Word.” (42:00)
  • The analogy of the bullfighter: Don’t charge the distracting “cape” (people, circumstances), but discern the real enemy (45:30).
• Real faith stands immovable in Christ, refusing to be distracted or discouraged by natural opposition (48:00).

5. Living & Acting “In Christ” Reality

• Believers must consistently see, speak, and act from their position "in Christ," not from natural limitations or the flesh.
  • Illustration from Kenneth Copeland: When told to give $50,000 to Kenneth Hagin while in debt, Copeland said, “In Christ, I have it.” (50:00)
• Every good thing—provision, healing, wisdom—is accessed “in Christ.” Lack, pain, and struggle cannot exist in Him (53:00–56:00).

6. Faith Requires Action—Movement Releases Supply

• Faith is not only confession but necessitates corresponding action.
  • “You can’t steer a parked car. Confessions are so you’ll know how to act.” (66:30)
• Jesus multiplied loaves and fishes because He gave thanks and began to distribute what seemed insufficient: “In the distribution comes the multiplication.” (68:30)
• Take steps towards what God tells you—look at the promise, not your resources.
  • “God fills movement with supply. All the supply will meet every step I take.” (72:30)

7. Resurrection Power Is Ours in Christ

• The same power that raised Christ from the dead belongs to believers. Paul’s prayer (Ephesians 1:16–22) is for revelation of:
  1. Who you are in Christ,
  2. What you have in Christ,
  3. What you can do in Christ (75:00).
• Resurrection power brings dead things—marriages, bodies, provisions—back to life.
  • “Resurrection power trumps every other power because it holds all the rest within it.” (76:40)
  • Testimony: A young mother declared resurrection power over her dead daughter, resulting in complete restoration; later, even without a frontal lobe, resurrection power “became the organ” and empowered a normal life (99:30–105:00).

8. Application—Speak, Act, and Expect the Power to Work

• Jesus told Kenneth Hagin: “There’s enough power in every sick room to raise up the sick one—if they know it’s present and give it action.” (108:30)
• Dufresne led those present in declaring and receiving healing, especially over those with metal in their bodies—emphasizing daily confession and refusing to return to natural reasoning (115:00).
• Faith Life leadership reinforced: Don’t look at your lack, look at what He says you have; honor the Word, refuse to be swayed, and live out the miracle (“Because you said so, I put a claim on that. I have that. That’s mine.”) (121:00).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Honor & Receiving:
  “We only receive to the measure we honor… you can only receive to the measure of your honor.” – Nancy Dufresne (06:55)

• On Offense:
  “Offense is a choice. It’s beneath a faith person. I chose long ago that Brother Hagin will never offend me.” – Nancy Dufresne (16:50)

• On Pastoral Importance:
  “The pastoral office is not the most powerful, but it’s the most important. Without the office of the pastor, the fruit of every other office would be lost.” – Nancy Dufresne (07:00)

• On Being “In Christ”:
  “Stay in Christ. Get over here. In Christ, all sickness, all pain, all disease is outside of Him—not in Him.” – Nancy Dufresne (54:30) “In the New Testament, it’s all ours in Christ, baby. I’m not trying to get God to do one thing for me—He already gave it.” (73:00) “Whenever God says something to me, I say ‘In Christ, I have that’… I’m putting Him to work through me.” (62:50)

• On Faith & Provision:
  “God fills movement with supply. If you won’t move, you don’t need wisdom.” – Nancy Dufresne (73:45)

• On the Power of God:
  “The power of God will do it through you. All He needs is for you to give your Yes and He’ll show up and do it. Put your foot in the stirrup, baby.” – Nancy Dufresne (83:50) “If you can’t move anything but your little finger, move it toward God.” (110:15)

Important Timestamps

• [05:29–08:20] – Honor for Pastors & the Pastoral Office
• [14:00] – God Assigns Pastors/Right Local Church
• [16:50] – On Offense & Spiritual Connections
• [27:30] – Renewed Mind as Key to Victory; Book Recommendations
• [42:00] – “Wrestle” Means “Sway”: The Real Spiritual Fight
• [50:00] – Copeland’s “In Christ I Have It” Testimony
• [66:30] – Faith Requires Ongoing Movement, not Just Confession
• [73:45] – God Fills Movement With Supply & Decision to Act
• [75:00] – Ephesians Prayer: Identity, Riches, and Ability in Christ
• [76:40] – Resurrection Power: The Supreme Power for Believers
• [99:30–105:00] – Miracle Testimony: Resurrection Power in Action
• [108:30] – "There’s Enough Power in Every Sick Room" – Hagin Vision
• [115:00] – Ministry Time: Healing Confession for Metal in Bodies
• [121:00] – Faith Life Church Leadership on Kingdom Provision

Final Applications & Takeaways

• Honor your local church and spiritual leaders—your spiritual covering determines your safety and fruitfulness.
• Walk daily in awareness of who you are “in Christ”; respond to life from that position, not out of lack, pain, or human reasoning.
• Faith requires both confession and movement; supply always flows as you step out with God.
• Resurrection power is not just a concept; it’s a present, daily reality—available for healing, provision, restoration, and every need.
• Speak resurrection power over your situations. Your words and actions release God’s ability.
  • “Don’t be swayed by what you see or feel. Speak and move in Christ; let resurrection power go to work.” (120:00+)
• Corporate faith and declaration brings multiplied results.

This message is a call to live and act from your God-given position, fully supplied, empowered, and victorious—every day, in every area of life.