Faith Life Church Podcast

Episode: Voices of Victory: Nancy Dufresne, Sunday, 9AM (June 29, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this inspiring and practical episode, Faith Life Church welcomes Nancy Dufresne as part of their "Voices of Victory" series. Nancy, a veteran minister known for her miraculous crusades and simple, clear teaching, delivers a powerful message on living victoriously through managing your thought life, resisting the devil’s tactics, and fully occupying yourself with God’s presence and Word. With real-life stories, scripture, and memorable illustrations, Nancy equips listeners with actionable steps to move from fear and worry into steadfast peace and mastery in Christ.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power of the Local Church and Fellowship

• Nancy expresses her love for the local church and the community it brings:
  "You cut me, I bleed the local church. I love the local church because that's where God's body gathers to know him better and to move with him." [03:19]
• Importance of gathering for God’s plan in every service:
  "You told dad Hagin I have a plan for every service. So, Father, we're here for that plan today... we thank you that these services are intended... that the needs of the people get met. Questions get answered. Light comes, revelation comes." [04:24]

2. Dealing with Challenges – A Story of Financial Obedience

• Nancy recounts a personal story of obeying God’s prompt to help someone financially, despite personal discomfort:
  "God said, they had enough faith to call you, and I will honor that measure of faith. But you have enough faith to receive from me. Amen." [06:50]
• Key lesson: God may allow us to live at the level where we pull on people or Him, but choosing to pull on God brings lasting provision.

3. Answering the Enemy – The Principle of “Answer It”

• When confronted by negative or fearful thoughts, you must “answer it”—out loud and specifically—not just think it away:
  • "You cannot out think the devil. You cannot think his thoughts away. You answer them. ...Your words stop contrary words." [08:07]
  • “I never put myself in a difficult financial spot obeying God. Never. No such thing.” [09:37]
• Faith must be specific, not general:
  "Faith is specific. ...When you answer the devil and he threatens you... answer specifically the threat. Amen." [10:14]

4. Wisdom: The Need for Specificity and Fresh Revelation

• If you keep answering opposition but don’t see breakthroughs, seek God for greater wisdom and fresh revelation:
  "You can't just answer on autopilot. We have to answer by revelation." [12:58]
• Illustration using the story of Jesus and the man with the legion of demons: sometimes a specific answer or revelation is needed to see full victory. [13:44]

5. Living Inaccessibly to the Enemy – Dwelling in God’s Presence

• Psalm 91:7-8 (Amplified):
  "Only a spectator shall you be yourself inaccessible in the secret place of the most high." [16:05]
• God told Nancy: "You're too accessible to the threats of the enemy. ...If you would just live in my presence, you wouldn't even have to listen to that low level talk." [16:50]
• "Living in my presence does not come by earning, it comes by turning." [19:00]

6. Promotion and Opposition: Understanding the Enemy’s Tactics

• Nancy teaches that opposition often comes at the brink of promotion:
  • "Anytime there is great opposition, it's because of promotion. And the devil's launching opposition against promotion. What is our safe place in that opposition? ...His presence." [23:27]
• On the mind:
  • "Worry closes the door to the power of God. ...If you're thinking about it, that's worry." [25:54]
  • "If you don't get the thought life right, your life will struggle your whole life." [27:30]

7. Restoring and Renewing the Mind

• Explains the biblical concepts:
  • David: “He restores my soul”
  • Paul: “renewing of the mind”
  • John: “prospering of the soul” [29:31]
• Illustration: Smith Wigglesworth unmoved by Satan’s manifested presence – true victory is being untroubled in the face of opposition.
  • "Victory is not the devil leaving you alone. ...Victory is you being completely untroubled right in his presence." [32:54]

8. Table in the Presence of Enemies – Attention Determines Victory

• Psalm 23:5:
  • “Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies.” [35:24]
  • "The devil doesn’t have a chair at the table. He just tries to distract you from eating at the table." [40:40]
• Where your attention goes, your faith follows:
  • "Your faith is connected to your attention. ...If we're faith people, we have to have a relentless hold on our attention." [43:27]

9. Practical Applications & Memorable Illustrations

• Jewelry box and carnival necklace stories:
  • Casting all your care:
    • “If you'll put it back in my hand and leave it there, then I can finish it. But if you're going to take it back, I can't finish it.” [48:35]
    • "If you're worried, if you're thinking about it, it's in your hand. If you're not thinking about it, it's in His hand." [50:00]
• On worry and thought life:
  • "Worry is not an option. It is a sin. ...Many need to repent of the sin of worry." [52:10]

10. Dealing with Addictions and Bondages

• "Quit trying to get rid of fear thoughts. ...Just pour in the water of the Word and it will flush it all out." [59:53]

11. Skill in Faith: The Three Steps

• 1. Answer the thought—specifically and out loud
• 2. Tell the spirit of fear to leave you
• 3. Immediately get violent with your praise—shift your attention to God
     [65:40]

12. The Power of Attention in Spiritual Victory

• "The devil wasn’t after his life, he was after his ATTENTION. Because if he got his attention, he had everything in his life." [67:10]
• Proverbs 4:20:
  • "My son, attend [put your attention] to my words." [67:30]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On thought life:
  • "Your attention is mine and it will always be mine. … If he's got your attention, he's got access to everything in your life." [67:10]
• On refusing fear:
  • "Just because you feel fear doesn’t mean it’s yours. … You’re only feeling what the one who's present is feeling." [38:43]
• On victory:
  • “I refuse to live any day that's not heaven on earth. … I'm living heaven on earth every single day. And that's only possible when you do the right thing with your thought life.” [68:11]
• On skill in the Word:
  • “We’re not called to cope. We're called to rule and reign.” [44:51]
• On making room for worry:
  • “Worry closes the door to the power of God. When you’re worrying, you’re done hearing from God. Not because God quit speaking, but because worry closes the door and you can’t hear him anymore.” [26:21]
• On the table prepared:
  • "The devil doesn't got a chair, baby. He got no chair." [39:37]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Introduction & series context – 00:08-02:28
• Nancy’s story about financial obedience and hearing God – 03:19-10:45
• The “Answer It” principle: responding out loud to negative thoughts – 08:07-12:58
• The role of wisdom and specific, Spirit-led answers – 12:58-15:41
• Being inaccessible in God’s secret place—Psalm 91 – 16:05-19:30
• Confronting the real enemy and restoring the soul – 29:31-35:24
• Smith Wigglesworth’s mastery over fear – 32:54-34:41
• The table in the presence of your enemy: attention and faith – 35:24-43:27
• Personal stories illustrating “casting your care” (the jewelry necklace) – 48:35-51:20
• Worry as sin and the importance of repentance – 52:10-54:50
• Pouring in the Word to flush out wrong thinking – 59:53-63:25
• The three steps to victory over negative thoughts – 65:40-67:00
• Closing remarks and altar call – 70:00-73:22
• Offering and partnership teaching – 73:22-79:47

Closing Encouragements

• Nancy Dufresne led the congregation in a confession and prayer of resistance against fear, panic, anxiety, and worry, corporately declaring freedom and victory (see [68:39-69:43]).
• Pastor Gary and the host reminded listeners that walking in victory and partnership is intentional and involves active participation—especially through attention to God’s Word and practical steps like giving.

Takeaways

• Victory begins in your thought life and is maintained by your attention.
• God’s presence is your place of safety, provision, and peace—be intentional about turning into it daily and refusing to entertain the enemy’s accusations or worries.
• Be a doer of the Word: answer negative thoughts specifically, command fear to leave, and pull your attention back to the table of God’s promises.
• You are called to rule and reign, not just cope.

Memorable Closing Declaration:

"You and your word are the only thing worthy of my attention. So I say no to everything else. And I say I'm free from anything else that is not of the kingdom of God, because I'm living in victory." (Nancy Dufresne, [68:39])

Recommended Next Step:
Listen to Nancy’s teaching again and review her book Answer It to develop mastery in the skill of victorious living through your thought life.