ANGELA KINSEY & JOSHUA SNYDER Came Face to Face with a Komodo Dragon

Summary

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Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers

Episode: Angela Kinsey & Joshua Snyder Came Face to Face with a Komodo Dragon

Hosts: Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers
Guests: Angela Kinsey & Joshua Snyder
Date: October 7, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode features Angela Kinsey (best known as Angela from The Office) and her husband Joshua Snyder (actor and family-friendly YouTube baker), joining Seth and Josh Meyers to relive their wildest and most formative family travel stories. From Angela’s unique childhood in Indonesia (complete with monkeys, dragons, and makeshift road-trip cages), to Josh’s all-sibling road trips across Kansas and car karaoke, the conversation ranges from hilarious mishaps to cozy moments of nostalgia. The hosts also swap stories of sibling bonds, blended families, and finding connection through food.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Cookbook, Cooking, and Family Traditions

• Angela and Josh’s new cookbook, "You Can Make This," stems from their YouTube series "Baking With Josh" and emphasizes accessible recipes for families (10:34, 11:09–12:21).
  • Joshua Snyder: "No, cooking and baking is hard, you know, but you can do this. ... I really, you know, just tried to break it down as simple as possible." (11:36–12:21)
• Kitchen dynamics:
  • Josh is the natural chef; Angela often improvises (with mixed results):
  • Angela Kinsey: "He's a natural in the kitchen, and I am not. ... And he would say all the time, 'You can make this.'" (11:09)
• Soup rivalry:
  • Josh and Bill love soup, Seth and Angela are less keen.
    • Angela Kinsey: "People that love soup really need you to love soup." (13:26)
    • Seth Meyers: "I look forward to meals too much to have them served in a liquid form." (13:15)
• Food improvisation:
  • Baking requires precision; cooking invites creativity (12:27–12:52).
  • Notable quip: Seth: “My mouth’s going to bring the wet.” (14:13)

2. Family Roots and Background

• Angela’s Southern heritage:
  • Grew up as a "late-in-life" baby among much older sisters in a southern family. Amusing middle name story:
    • Angela: "A nurse in Louisiana named me Faye." (10:24)
• Josh’s blended family:
  • One of five (four sisters, one brother) from blended households with amusingly similar-sounding names (23:43–24:31).

3. Childhood Abroad: Living in Indonesia

• Angela’s move to Indonesia as a toddler (19:09–21:37)
  • Angela Kinsey: "My dad was a drilling engineer, and he was transferred to Jakarta in the early 70s." (19:12)
  • Describes siblings’ wide range of adaptation—her older sister struggled during senior year, younger one thrived and remains deeply connected (22:33–23:39).
• International school moments and cultural adaptation (21:41–22:22)

4. Road Trips and Sibling Dynamics

• Josh’s annual drives between Kansas and Colorado (25:40–27:40)
  • Eight-hour stretches at 50 mph:
    • Josh: "It’s eight hours of just like... the same color." (25:51)
  • Seth: "That whole…even for a dumb kid, that is a discernible drop in speed…” (27:04)
  • Summer swaps between parents after divorce; always amicable if somewhat businesslike (27:43–28:31).
• Big family trips:
  • Josh’s proudest memory: family road trip to Nashville with one cassette (Randy Travis) on repeat (34:06–35:14).

5. Angela’s Wild Indonesian Adventures

• Epic Monkey Story:
  • Family road trip into the Indonesian mountains with another family; friend’s daughter buys a monkey at a roadside stall; chaos ensues as the monkey escapes from a makeshift rattan cage inside a van (29:33–32:20).
    • Angela Kinsey: "Fred goes… 'It’s on my leg.' And it was on his leg, and he was driving, and it was just like immediate mayhem in this van." (31:38)
    • Seth’s quip: “If you have a monkey in a van, you just might be a redneck in Indonesia.” (32:37)
• Komodo Dragons and More:
  • Family visited remote island retreats offered through her dad's company—shared by oil workers—with wild Komodo dragons raiding the trash (42:27–44:09).
    • “You would wake up, and a Komodo dragon would be in the trash can, you know? … I moved… to Dallas, Texas, and someone’s talking about… a raccoon in the trash. I’m like, well, we had Komodo dragons.” (44:09)
  • Modern return to Indonesia with their (now-teenage) children, encountering massive “tiger monitor” lizards on vacation (44:49–45:15).
    • Angela: “Josh is, first of all, terrified of snakes... but he wasn't as scared of that, ’cause you said, ‘It has legs.’” (45:15)
    • Josh: “It has legs. ... I can put my head around that. But the snake, I can't.” (45:21)

6. Blending Families & Co-Parenting

• Meeting story:
  • Angela and Josh bonded as the “divorcees of preschool” (46:53–47:01). Their children, Isabelle and Jack, are the same age—only four days apart (47:49–47:53).
• Blending logistics:
  • Angela and Josh describe the anxiety and joys of blending families, as well as the evolving sibling friendship between their children.
  • Memorable anecdote: Angela’s earliest memory of Jack eating dirt at preschool (48:41–49:49).

7. Passing Down Traditions & New Adventures

• Family vacation philosophies:
  • Angela loves educational trips; Josh prefers adventure (60:56).
  • Angela’s tip: avoid overload ("museum fatigue")—balance education and fun (53:30–54:14).
  • Pantry as "parenting sidebar" space (54:19–54:41)
• Sibling and parent get-togethers:
  • The Meyers brothers discuss their standing family and friend traditions (57:01–57:54).
  • Angela on hoping their kids travel and bond as adults (57:54–58:33).

8. Speed Round Q&A (Lighthearted Closer)

• Vacation type: Angela—educational; Josh—adventurous (60:56)
• Dream travel family: Angela—The Boleyns ("I wrote a term paper on Anne Boleyn!"); Josh—The Meyers brothers (61:20–61:34)
• Desert island companion: Each other ("I pick you," Josh says to Angela, 61:50–62:07)
• Hometowns pitched:
  • Angela makes a spirited pitch for Archer City, TX (home of author Larry McMurtry, many bookstores, rodeo, Dairy Queen) (62:12–63:17)
  • Josh recommends Wichita, KS for a stress-free, slower-paced life (63:35–64:15)
• Grand Canyon verdict: Both have been, both loved it. Angela especially recommends the sunrise horseback ride on the east rim (64:22–64:42).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You can make this.”
  — Josh Snyder, on the cookbook's mantra (11:09)

• “People that love soup really need you to love soup.”
  — Angela Kinsey (13:26)

• "My mouth’s going to bring the wet."
  — Seth Meyers, defending his dislike for wet food (14:13)

• "Fred goes... 'It's on my leg.' And it was on his leg, and he was driving, and it was just like immediate mayhem in this van."
  — Angela Kinsey, Monkey story (31:38)

• “You would wake up and a Komodo dragon would be in the trash can.”
  — Angela Kinsey (44:09)

• "If you have a monkey in a van, you just might be a redneck in Indonesia."
  — Seth Meyers, riffing on Jeff Foxworthy (32:37)

• “Let’s low key lock in and make this pasta sauce.”
  — Angela Kinsey, on teen lingo around the house (58:33)

• “I moved... to Dallas, Texas, and someone’s talking about a raccoon in the trash. I’m like, well, we had Komodo dragons.”
  — Angela Kinsey (44:09)

• “My dad’s phrase was, ‘We’re burning daylight.’ There was no daylight—whenever we left the house, it was dark.”
  — Angela Kinsey (33:27)

• “I bonded with Angela on a road trip because of our love and knowledge for old country music.”
  — Josh Snyder (36:49)

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Highlighted Segments & Timestamps

• [10:34] Cookbook philosophy (“You can make this”)
• [13:10] Soup debate (+ family food nostalgia)
• [19:09–22:22] Angela’s family move and life in Indonesia
• [29:33–32:20] The monkey-in-the-van saga
• [42:27–44:09] Island trips, Komodo dragons
• [44:49–45:21] Encounter with monitor lizard
• [47:01–49:49] Angela & Josh’s blended family beginnings
• [53:30–54:14] Learning vacation balance (education vs. fun)
• [60:49–64:58] Speed round Q&A: ideal trips, travel pitches, and the Grand Canyon

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Language & Tone

The episode is warm, playful, and packed with anecdotal humor and sibling banter. Angela’s passionate storytelling delights in the unexpected, while Josh supplies dry wit and understated nostalgia. The Meyers brothers keep things lively, jumping in with jokes and personal asides. The conversation is inclusive, filled with relatable chaos, gentle ribbing, and heartfelt moments typical of large families.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode showcases the adventure, comedy, and sometimes chaos that comes from growing up in big, blended families, especially those with a taste for the unconventional—whether that means monkeys in vans, Komodo dragons in trash cans, or clinging to road trip cassettes. Angela and Josh’s openhearted stories make “family trips” feel global, hilarious, and ultimately grounding—reminding listeners that the heart of every journey is the people you share it with (and maybe, the soup you eat along the way).

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Transcript

[Seth Meyers]

Hey, Baji.

[Bill Hader]

Hey, Sufi.

[Seth Meyers]

We're gonna start with a plug. Are you all right with starting with a plug?

[Bill Hader]

Sure.

[Seth Meyers]

These episodes are on YouTube, everybody. And that's almost. The plug's basically 90% over. So check it out. You know what I mean? Like, go if you want to. If you want to watch us do this. That's available to you?

[Bill Hader]

Yeah. Some people like to do that.

[Seth Meyers]

Some people like to see the faces of those. I mean, you know, what we look like. But wouldn't it be fun to see the faces of. Of our many guests?

[Bill Hader]

Yeah, maybe.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. How are you, my friend?

[Bill Hader]

I'm great.

[Seth Meyers]

We saw each other. It was very exciting. We saw each other on Sunday. I was home, and then you were home. We're going to see each other today. By the time. By the time this comes up, by the time this comes out, it will have happened. But you and I are both going to be on the Jimmy Kimmel show that is filming in Brooklyn this week. Yeah.

[Bill Hader]

I'm in this sort of very big dressing room at bam, the Brooklyn Academy of Music, and I'm very excited. It's a big theater and it's a big deal. Kimmel coming east. I think they said it's maybe the seventh time they've done this, and I have not ever been in that theater. And I just went out for rehearsal and I was like, oh, this is massive. Not nothing. It's like three times.

[Seth Meyers]

It's going to be very exciting.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And I'm very excited to be out there with you. We were. We took advantage of you being out east. I brought Addie to New Hampshire. I've done it before. I did it again. It was delicious to have her there.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And you came in Sunday morning, got to hang out, and we watched the Steelers Vikings game with mom and dad. It was in Ireland, so It started at 9:30, which was perfect. I wish they all started that early.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

We were watching the game on a little bit of a delay so we didn't have to sit through the commercials.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And, you know, it allowed us more time to just sort of hang out with Addie, not be sitting in front of the tv. That put dad basically in the. I don't know what you would call it. He was just sort of the commander of the remote.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah. And he did tell, you know, our neighbor and friend Franz. He said it was almost a euphoric morning for him to have his boys on the porch watching football. You know, he said out, you know, independently of us. He was like. That was maybe one of the Best mornings I could possibly imagine.

[Seth Meyers]

I was also feeling some euphoria, especially when the Steelers were up three scores and I had my daughter in my lap, and I was with you guys, and I really thought I was gonna cry because the Steelers were gonna win. And I was with everybody. And then, very slowly, the Vikings started coming back.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah. Cause we can't just win. We can't just win.

[Seth Meyers]

And it really stepped on my euphoria. Yeah. And here's something I haven't admitted to you, because we. Our car was outside to take me and Addie the airport, and I went upstairs, and there was about seven minutes left in the game, and I was packing up, and I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to check my phone, because again, we were behind.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

So I'm like, I'm going to see what's happening. And I checked my phone, assuming that it would all be well in hand, and it was way closer than I wanted. And I'm like, I got to get out of here. I literally was like, I got to get in the car, get out of here. Because if this falls apart, I can't be at home. Like, it will ruin this memory of what was one of my favorite mornings, too.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Like, I don't want to see. Because again, you know, like, I felt like. You know what we were. We were like. We were like a crew that had pulled off a successful heist. And I felt like had I stayed, it would be like that moment where you realize one guy's spending his money too loudly and everybody just turns on each other.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. But you. So tell me about the end of the game, because again, now I'm in the car.

[Bill Hader]

Well, with a minute left in the game, I want to say we were. The Vikings, had the ball. We were punting.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bill Hader]

And there was a commercial break. And because we were on a little bit of a delay, you know, Dad's got the remote, and he fast forwards. But because the game is actually over at this point, as soon as he touches the remote, it rewinds to the beginning of the game.

[Seth Meyers]

Three.

[Bill Hader]

Three hours previous. And he's like, ah, rabble, rabble, rabble. He rabble, rabble, rabble, fast forwards through the whole game. And then it's like he's going real fast, getting up to that one minute left, slows it down, gets it all set again, presses play for whatever reason, jumps right to the beginning, like, national anthem stuff.

[Seth Meyers]

Bummer. And plus, I should note, one, that's stressful. Two, the extra stress of, you don't know if the Steelers have won or not, which is a big deal. I mean, I'm not saying it's an actual big deal. It was a big deal for us.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah. And then he, like, hits play and it's interview with Aaron Rodgers at the end of the game. Game's over. We didn't see that last minute. We didn't have to sweat through it, but.

[Seth Meyers]

But you were okay? Nobody was mad.

[Bill Hader]

Mom was a little mad. Mom was like, what happened? He's like, we won. And then he's mad because she mad.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Bill Hader]

And. Yeah, but they won. We got.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, I'm. I will say, I. All my instincts of like, eddie, get in the car. Get in the car. Right.

[Josh Snyder]

You don't want to see this. I don't want you to see this.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, but it's great.

[Bill Hader]

It was. It was great. It was great to be home. And then dad, did you know there were two games, two late games on the like, Red Zone channel? And I was like, can you just pause this? Because dinner was ready. And so then we ate and he hit play. And it was again, like, end of game interview on the Bears Raiders game. That looked very exciting. And then the other game was just that screen that says, like, we'll be back next week. And it plays just like aggressive music. And dad wasn't muting it. And it's like, why just turn it off?

[Seth Meyers]

Look, I do think, like, it's really nice to pause a game and enjoy your life and then go back to the game, but you are. You are playing God in a way that you're not supposed to.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

You know, you're supposed to watch these things as they happen. That is the joy of sports. And every time in my life I've like tried to record a game and find out what happened. It is. Something's gone a little bit wrong.

[Bill Hader]

Somebody texts you and is like somebody.

[Seth Meyers]

Texts you and also, like just, you know, you can feel in the air or something. You know like what I mean, it's just. It's not right.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Anyway, it was great to see you. Who's our guest today?

[Bill Hader]

It's Angela Kinsey and Joshua Snyder. Angela, you know, from the office. They are married. They've had sort of like a cooking. Cooking segments on YouTube for a long time. I think that's an actual full on cooking show. And then they've got a cookbook called you'd can make this.

[Seth Meyers]

Baking with Josh is the YouTube channel. And you'll find out pretty early in the interview that Josh is the chef. And Angela is his plus one. The kitchen.

[Bill Hader]

But they are a delight.

[Seth Meyers]

They're a delight. Enjoy them. It was a delight seeing you in New Hampshire. Pashi.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Our native homeland. And enjoy the show.

[Narrator/Poet]

Family trips with the M Brothers. Family chips with the M.

[Seth Meyers]

Here, go. Hello.

[Bill Hader]

Hello, Angela. It's nice to see you without. Oh, here he is. We almost just had Angela, but it's.

[Seth Meyers]

Nice to have you both. Do you go by Josh or Joshua? Joshua. Josh.

[Josh Snyder]

Well, if you ask my mom, it's Joshua.

[Seth Meyers]

Gotcha for sure.

[Josh Snyder]

But Josh for literally everyone else.

[Seth Meyers]

So Angela would fully Josh you.

[Josh Snyder]

She Joshes me all the time.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. And I was the first time we had dinner with his mom. I was like saying Josh this and Josh that. And we were just dating, right? And I was like nervous having dinner with his mom. And she was like. So Joshua was telling me and I went. And I. And I did the thing where I was like, wait. And I was like, do you prefer Joshua? And she was like, well, that is what I named him.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. And then he was like, no, no, no, I go by Josh.

[Bill Hader]

I was like, yeah, well, my mother just named me straight up Josh.

[Josh Snyder]

That's great. I mean, that's what I did with my boys. I was like, one syllable strong names. Jack Cade.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, very strong. But just looking at. I have a quick some business up top before we get into it, because, Angela, I was looking at your bio and your sisters. Three of them all have two names. Billie Joe, Tina Lynn, Janet Leigh. And yet I don't believe that you just have one.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, they only go, well, Janet just goes by Janet. You know, but we are southern, so, you know, in the south, sometimes you just say all of it.

[Seth Meyers]

I love it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like, my mom's really good friend's name is sue, but everyone calls her Sue Dean. Her full name, her first and last name. But no. So Billy, Janet, Tina. And then my middle name was like a whole wonky thing.

[Bill Hader]

But okay, do tell.

[Angela Kinsey]

I guess my mom had. I was a late in life surprise baby. You know, my sisters are like 16 years older, 15 years older, 10 years older.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. And so my oldest sister.

[Seth Meyers]

So you couldn't afford middle names by the time you were born?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, but my. My sister Billy was 16 and she said mom would come to get me from school, like with a big pregnant Bailey. I'd be so embarrassed. Like, everyone knows my parents do it. You know, like she was like, but. But yeah. So I guess when my mom had me, they were in Louisiana and she had a C section and she Was kind of like a little loopy. Oh, no, she didn't have a C section. She'd be. So she'd be like, I did not. But anyway, they gave her some drugs, and she was trying to tell the nurse my name, and she wanted my middle name to be Faith, but I guess she was saying Fay.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And the lady wrote Faye. And they didn't realize it until they got my passport when we moved to Indonesia when I was 2. And my mom was like, to my dad, why'd you put Fay? And he was like, put Faye. You put Faye? And she was like, I didn't put Faye.

[Seth Meyers]

Wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

So a nurse. A nurse in Louisiana named me Faye.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, it's very Angela Faye. It's very nice.

[Angela Kinsey]

Angela Fay. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Bill Hader]

It's a lovely name.

[Angela Kinsey]

That was such a long story.

[Seth Meyers]

No, it's good because then I'm very excited to get to Indonesia. But I also. You guys have a cookbook. And I want to ask because I feel like a lot of cookbooks, it's called, you can make this with an exclamation point.

[Josh Snyder]

That's right.

[Seth Meyers]

It feels like there's a lot. I feel like people who write cookbooks and are trying to instruct people on how to cook have to stress all the time, you can do this. Like, there's a real. Like, do you just find that so many people are intimidated by the idea of cooking that you just have to, as the cookbook authors, really stress to them? Like, trust us, we know you think you can't.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, this name is. Because Josh says it all the time to me and the kids. Cause he's a natural in the kitchen, and I am not. And he would say all the time, you can make this. And when it came time to title the book, he was like, that's what I want to title it. And I was like, are you sure? It feels a little like, eh.

[Josh Snyder]

I was surprised no one else had it.

[Seth Meyers]

Honestly, I kind of am with you because I think there is a real. It's really important to tell people who are about to buy a cookbook, like, no, no, no. We know.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah, yeah. No, cooking and baking is hard, you know, but you can do this. No, it's. You know, my. I grew up in the kitchen, so it's a little easier for me because I could. You know, my grandma's old recipes were, like, barely recipes, you know, the amounts were very, like, sparse. And then, like, she had, like, one sentence, like, just put it all in the bowl and bake it, you know? Oh, well, I don't know anything else. So now, you know, nowadays it's like, you know, even on our website we have, you know, we have like a step by step with like photos and like, you know, a video of how to do it. So it is a lot easier. And so with this cookbook, I mean, I really, you know, just tried to break it down as simple as possible. And the recipes are all easy enough, like for, you know, they're family favorite recipes that are pretty easy to make.

[Bill Hader]

Do you encourage improvising in these recipes or is it pretty much.

[Josh Snyder]

It depends.

[Bill Hader]

Stick to it.

[Josh Snyder]

It depends. Baking is not something you can improvise with very much and get away with it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I have tried.

[Josh Snyder]

Baking soda and baking powder are different, right? In some ways, I mean, so. But yeah, but cooking for, I mean, there's, there's, I mean, I'm a huge like soup fan, especially this time of year. And yeah, soups, I mean, you can just put pretty much whatever you want in the soup and it's still.

[Bill Hader]

Right.

[Angela Kinsey]

Josh would eat every day of his life. He eats soup every day.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm not a big, I'm not a big soup guy. And I was just home. Josh and I were both just home. And on back to back nights, mom made soup. And I think she was a little, she was a little hurt that I was not as excited about soup as she maybe expected me.

[Bill Hader]

I don't know how you cannot like soup. That's a shame.

[Josh Snyder]

Thank you, Josh. Yes, I agree.

[Seth Meyers]

I look forward to meals too much to have them served in a liquid form.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, I'm with you. Yeah, I do. I enjoy a little bit of soup.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

But like, but I have found, and I don't know if you feel this way, Seth, but people that love soup really need you to love soup. Like, it's like, Josh is like, you're here, I have another soup for you. But I will say you do have a few in the book that I like.

[Josh Snyder]

It's a perfect meal. You get everything all at once. You know, you got your veggies and your meat. I mean, it's every, all piled in and then you have leftovers for days. I mean, it's great.

[Seth Meyers]

I like, I like to take it all and make it a soup in my belly. But I like to, I, I like it all to be a little separated, you know, because I like, I, I don't like all my, you know, my proteins, my vegetables. I don't like them wet. And that's what, you know, when they're.

[Bill Hader]

In a soup, they famously, as A child. He said, I don't like my.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, no, just like I always say, like, my mouth's going to bring the wet. I was always like, you don't have to worry about it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I like that as a kid, you add like a hashtag, my mouth springs away.

[Seth Meyers]

I had a lot of hashtags before there were hashtags. I would say pound sign, obviously.

[Angela Kinsey]

Pound sign, yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Right. Because we're old. But. Yeah, I'm older than you, though. I think. I think I'm the oldest one in this group here.

[Seth Meyers]

Look, we're not naming names.

[Angela Kinsey]

You know what? We don't need to do that. But wait, so does that mean, Seth, you don't like sauces? Because I love a sauce.

[Seth Meyers]

I love a sauce. Come on.

[Bill Hader]

I mean, he used to. Our mom used to make flank steak and baked potato, and he would scoop out the baked potato and then stuff the flank steak into the potato skin and like, dip that in an A1 sauce.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah, A1's delicious.

[Seth Meyers]

And for anybody who's at home intimidated by that, you can make this. This what Josh described? You can.

[Josh Snyder]

I'll hit you up for the recipe later.

[Seth Meyers]

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[Bill Hader]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Bill Hader]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Josh Snyder]

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[Seth Meyers]

Here we go. All right, so Angela, you are obviously from the south, born in Louisiana. But then as you mentioned, and again, this is as family trip as a family trip could be. Although you know, it was just a trip to go live somewhere else. Your entire family moved to Indonesia when you were two years old?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And what was the purpose of the trip?

[Angela Kinsey]

My dad was a drilling engineer, and he was transferred to Jakarta in the early 70s.

[Seth Meyers]

Was it a transfer that he was excited about?

[Angela Kinsey]

You know, I think he felt like it was going to be a level up for his career. Like, if he did this, he was gonna round a corner. And not a lot of people were jumping at the chance to leave, like, their family, their lives, and, like, uproot and start somewhere new. So there was definitely, like, cash incentive. They were paying great salaries, but they made you commit. When my dad took the job, they had had a hard time with people sticking it out. So when he took the job, they said, you have to stay for two years before you can return to the United States, like back to your home.

[Seth Meyers]

And that's scary because when they tell you that, you do know it's because other people have bailed early.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think they just didn't give a chance of just re. You know, learning a whole new place. And so we did. And the first time I came back to the States, I was four.

[Seth Meyers]

Wow. And then did he stick it out? Was it two years and he came. The whole family came back?

[Angela Kinsey]

No, no, no. We went all together with him when I was two. We stayed two years. But the first time we got to go for, like, a summer visit was when I was 4. And then we stayed there until I was 14.

[Seth Meyers]

And are you surprised, looking back, or do you knowing your parents now? Obviously, when you were 2, you were probably still figuring them out, but are you. Were you like, oh, they were the kind of people who were gonna make that work, and they were gonna embrace a new culture, and they were gonna see it as a real opportunity.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. My dad, for sure, loved the sort of the challenge part of it of, like, you know, he was really passionate about his work, and I think he was excited about the opportunity to. To head up this international drilling kind of arm of this company. But I think it was really hard for my mom because he would go off to work and have all of these sort of, like, great little challenges and stuff throughout the day. And then she would be home trying to be like, how do I meet people? How do I. So there were a lot of clubs. There was like, the American Club. There was like a club for people that all worked at the same company, like, little meetup kind of things. And the American Club was run by the American Embassy. And it was for expats living and working in Indonesia. And that was really how she started to meet people.

[Bill Hader]

And then were you at an American school or an international school?

[Angela Kinsey]

I was at an international school, which, if you're out in the world and you meet other people who went to international schools, it's just like instant geek out moment. I was working on a show, I was filming in Vancouver, and one of my co stars, I found out, went to international school. And we figured that out, like, day one and that was it. We're like, oh, oh, my God. And then where did you go for volleyball? Oh, we flew to Kuala Lumpur. Oh, really? I did, you know, and it was just like all of this, like, like. So I. But I loved my school.

[Seth Meyers]

I loved, I would imagine, with your siblings. First of all, I like that given the opportunity to come up with a super fancy, pompous name, they just went with international school. They just called it what it was.

[Angela Kinsey]

Jakarta International School. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

J I s your siblings older? I would imagine a lot harder for them, the idea of uprooting and going to Jakarta.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Well, my oldest sister was starting college.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

So she stayed. My mom's sister and her husband, we're very close with my aunt and uncle, so she stayed with them. And then my second oldest sister, it was her senior year, and that was really hard. Really hard. And then my sister Tina was like middle school age, you know, so it was probably the easiest for me because I thought everyone grew up in Jakarta, Right. I was like, this is where we grow up. Right.

[Seth Meyers]

Do your middle two sisters look back on it fondly now or.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think the one that was moving in as her senior year, I think it was like a big life lesson for her. And she's. It really shaped, I think, how she went out into the world and she looks back on it now, and I think with a lot of perspective, but it was a tough year. And then my sister in middle school loved it. She loved it. So she. And she's still very connected to Indonesia and she goes to all of the reunions, all the JIS reunions. And so it was real, a real big, like, identifying, like, place for her.

[Seth Meyers]

So. And we are going to get to you, Josh.

[Josh Snyder]

Hey.

[Angela Kinsey]

Josh has so many sisters.

[Josh Snyder]

I've never heard this before.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, that's the thing. So, Angela, I do want to clarify. Angela, you have three sisters and Josh, you have four. Four sisters.

[Josh Snyder]

I do have four sisters, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Angela, when you met Josh, was that. Did you realize when he had four sisters, you were like, oh, this is Going to work out great.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, yeah, I think so, because not only that, but they. They're like, they love him. And so I was like, okay, he grew up around a bunch of women and. And they all adore him. But I did have a hard time because their names are Ginger, Jackie, Jory, Josie, Josh.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And so you know what? That's gonna be tough for now.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm a little surprised. So Ginger, though, spelled with a G, right?

[Josh Snyder]

True. Yep.

[Seth Meyers]

So it's interesting to go all J sounds but not all J names.

[Josh Snyder]

Well, and they're.

[Angela Kinsey]

They're, you know, they're blended families.

[Josh Snyder]

We're a blended family.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, it was just dumb luck.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah, it was just dumb luck. My stepmom had it terribly hard. It was just like, george, just get over here.

[Seth Meyers]

So how many came with the stepmom? Two.

[Josh Snyder]

Okay, so Jackie and Ginger.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And so your other two were.

[Josh Snyder]

Were Josie and Jory.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, my. Gotcha.

[Bill Hader]

Are you the baby?

[Josh Snyder]

I am. No, I am second. So from the baby. So it's. Jory's the youngest, and then I'm. I'm second.

[Bill Hader]

Gotcha.

[Josh Snyder]

But I was the only boy too, so it didn't really matter.

[Seth Meyers]

When. How old were you and your family blended?

[Josh Snyder]

I was about 8.

[Seth Meyers]

So they're a real family, your siblings feel like siblings?

[Josh Snyder]

Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And we, you know, they. My stepsisters grew up in mostly Kansas, so I lived in Kansas until I was eight. Then we moved to Colorado with my mom. And then, so we didn't. We saw each other on the, like, summers and, you know, holiday type thing. But. But we still are super close. I was just back for a wedding for my niece, my. My stepsister's, you know, daughter. And. Yeah, it was just like. It was so great. So great.

[Seth Meyers]

Fantastic.

[Bill Hader]

So were you going back and forth between Kansas and Colorado then?

[Josh Snyder]

Oh, yeah.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah, A lot.

[Josh Snyder]

And let me tell you, that's super exciting driving.

[Angela Kinsey]

He said the drive is just kind of yellow.

[Josh Snyder]

I mean, it's eight hours of just like. Yeah. The same color.

[Seth Meyers]

And that's like an eight hour drive where there's probably no faster way.

[Josh Snyder]

No and no. There's no faster way. We're just on i70 pretty much the whole time.

[Seth Meyers]

And there's no. Because I would imagine there's no airports that make a trip like that.

[Josh Snyder]

I mean, you could get from Denver to Wichita pretty, you know, like. But it was so. It was out of our price. We didn't fly anywhere when I was a kid, you know.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah, there's a lot of Kids to transport to and fro.

[Seth Meyers]

They were like if you think we, if you, if we had money, you think we'd be eating soup.

[Josh Snyder]

So. Totally. What's kind of funny about like the Kansas, Colorado drive though was that Colorado speed limit was 60, you know, going. And that's back in you know, the 80s and then Kansas was 50 and so you made that, you know, about three hours in we switched to Kansas and my dad was notorious for going the speed limit. So when we got to Kansas it was 50 miles which I don't know, it's just something about being under 60 that just like you're like mentally it's just such a hard, you know, it's like ah, just go like a little faster. Five miles faster. Anything, please.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean that whole, I mean that is even for a dumb kid, that is a discernible drop in speed where you're. Nobody can lie to you about it.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah, no, no, no.

[Bill Hader]

It must have been so exciting.

[Angela Kinsey]

Welcome to Kansas.

[Josh Snyder]

Seriously, it was just like the longest trip ever.

[Bill Hader]

I remember it must have been so exciting going the other way to cross into Colorado.

[Josh Snyder]

Oh yeah. Coming home is great. My mom, my mom also, we met halfway with my dad and so then my mom always went about five miles over the speed limit. I think that's, I think totally fine. On a road trip you gotta do that for everyone's mental health.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah, I do.

[Seth Meyers]

Nine.

[Bill Hader]

I try to go nine.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah, that's nine.

[Bill Hader]

That's just.

[Seth Meyers]

How was.

[Bill Hader]

I think ten's trouble. I'm not a troublemaker. But nine.

[Seth Meyers]

Please tell me if I'm getting too close to the bone for a child of divorce. But when you did the trade off at the state, at state lines, was it an affable trade off between.

[Angela Kinsey]

Why are you laughing? You're like already laughing.

[Seth Meyers]

It's so funny to me because our parents stayed together.

[Josh Snyder]

So.

[Angela Kinsey]

Divorce.

[Josh Snyder]

It's hilarious. A couple broken bottles here and there. But I mean the most.

[Seth Meyers]

But I mean like, was it just sort of an affable hand? I just like the idea of handing off a child at state lines, I think.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah, it was. It always was. I mean it was. They didn't talk a lot. You know, they still don't really. But yeah, it was, it was. You know, my dad was usually there waiting for us, so he was, he's very punctual.

[Seth Meyers]

So yeah, guy goes 50. I mean a guy goes 50, is it going to be late?

[Josh Snyder]

He left at 2 in the morning and got there, you know. But no, it was, it was always, you know, we Just kind of got in. And then we. We had. We had our routine by that point, so we knew exactly where we were going to stop for nice McDonald's, you know, and Hayes, which is about three hours away from home, you know, so we. We had our. Our routine. And now I look back, though, I think my. I think my mom probably, you know, handed us off. She had this whole, like, you know, two weeks off from us, you know, which I. I was like, that must have been great for her back then. I didn't think about that. I just thought she missed us.

[Seth Meyers]

That, by the way, going 75 with three kids in the car that. I mean, going 75 with no kids in the car, that must have felt like 100 windows are down.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah, just like. That's like.

[Angela Kinsey]

She probably had like a whole play mix after she dropped you guys off.

[Josh Snyder]

Cigarettes.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

So, Angela, when your whole family was in Indonesia, would you take trips using that as your base? And did you see a part of the world that most of us don't get a chance to see as kids?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I think I saw a lot. A lot of Southeast Asia. And, you know, we always. My mom sort of was a collector of people in a way. Like, so, you know, she met a family, and they were young missionaries, and, like, they just didn't have much. And so she was like, we're going on a trip and you're coming with us. And she was like, dad told my dad. She was like, I'm bringing Betty and Fred Hauser and their daughter Tammy. And my dad was like, what? And we decided we were going to go up to Bandung up to the mountains. And Fred Hauser had a Volkswagen van, you know, with the slidey door, like the. I don't even know if it had seat belts. But anyway, we had this trip planned, and all of a sudden, Fred was like, I'll drive. And my dad was like, what? And we all piled in this Volkswagen and went up to the mountains. And, you know, the roads up there, there's no guard rails. It's just like, that's it. And there's lots of. It was rain. And I think why this memory stands out to me so strongly is we stopped on the side of the road at, like, a little stand to, you know, get some food and stuff. And a man had a tiny monkey, like the little ones, right, with the long tail. And Tammy really wanted it. She was like, I need that. I want that monkey. I want that monkey. And we could not believe it, but Betty bought her the monkey. And my dad was like, I'm not getting in a van with that monkey. And so the man that he bought it from, there was no cage. So he kind of made this makeshift cage out of rattan and, you know, and put the monkey in it. Poor thing.

[Seth Meyers]

So that means he wasn't even thinking about selling the monkey.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't think so. I don't think so. But anyway, we left with that monkey, and my dad was like, you gotta put it in the way back. So we put it, you know, in the way back. And we're driving down the road, Fred's driving, and it's just raining buckets. Just like, rain, rain. And all of a sudden, Tammy's like, where's the monkey? And the van went, what? And we're like, where's the monkey? And everyone's looking for the monkey. And Fred goes, it's on my leg. And it was on his leg, and he was driving, and it was just like immediate mayhem in this van. And he said to my dad, bill, get the monkey. And my dad was like, the hell I am. It was just like. It was chaos. And the van. The door, when you turned a corner, it would come unhitched, unlatched, and it would slide open. So we had to have an adult by the door, and they had to hold the thing, and. And anyway, that trip none of us will ever forget, you know, and we. We pulled off on the side of the road and. And the monkey went out the door.

[Seth Meyers]

Wait, did it really? By the way, I bet this is a scam. And that monkey knew exactly how to get back to that guy.

[Josh Snyder]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Bill Hader]

That was like, Sony again.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, I hope that is the case. I hope. He just ran right back home.

[Seth Meyers]

He just, like, lit a little monkey cigarette, and he's like, got him again. Got him again.

[Josh Snyder]

Boss had all the jewels in his. You know.

[Seth Meyers]

Right. He had all the wallets. The way your dad's voice, it, like, literally made me think, like. Sounds like Jeff Foxworthy being like, if you have a monkey in a van, you just might be a redneck in Indonesia.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, that was. Although the Housers were from Pennsylvania, so they bought the monkey. Not the Texans, Louisiana folks. But that was my dad. He loved a road trip to start at, like, 5:00am like, he would walk around because he had to get up so early to be on the drilling rig. You know, his day started so early, but his phrase was, we're burning daylight. So he would walk around, and he had a house full of women getting him out the door, yelling, we're burning daylight. There Was no daylight. Whenever we left the house, it was dark. There was no daylight.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, he's using it wrong.

[Bill Hader]

How long do you think you possessed the monkey for? Was it two hours?

[Angela Kinsey]

No, hours. Hours, yeah.

[Bill Hader]

Was the monkey named in that time that.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't remember. I was probably about 8 years old. I just remember the minute they said, where's the monkey? The immediate panic in the.

[Seth Meyers]

You know, it's funny if you can't trust, you know, the integrity of a monkey cage built in haste on the side of a road, what can you trust?

[Angela Kinsey]

What can you trust?

[Seth Meyers]

So what were you. What kind of road trips would you take, Josh? I'm assuming they were also car based.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah, yeah, for the most part. We. I do remember one trip that we took to Nashville that was like a big family trip that we took with everybody, like all my. All my sisters and my stepmom, my dad. And, you know, it was back in the day where, like, you had, you know, just one tape that you listened to over and over and over again, you know, in the car ride. So I know I was probably like nine or whatever, and I was really into Randy Travis, so we. We had the Randy Travis album on like, non stop, and that's pretty much. You know, I sang that over and over to my sisters and performed that for them the whole.

[Angela Kinsey]

Did you have a Walkman or were you playing it?

[Josh Snyder]

No, it was through the car.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Snyder]

And so then we stopped. I remember we stopped in at Opryland usa, you know, and I was able to make one of the recordings. Do you remember those, like, karaoke booth type things? You go in and make like a tape, you know, yourself singing. So I have a tape when I was like nine of me singing the Gambler McKenna Rogers. Yeah.

[Bill Hader]

Do you ever. Do you ever break that tape out? Is that sort of a Christmas classic?

[Josh Snyder]

I still have it. I still have it. And I. I need to figure out how to get it digital now. You should probably do that quick before it deteriorates more.

[Angela Kinsey]

We have watched Josh, me and the kids. He was in Oklahoma in high school, and his. His dance number is something special that.

[Josh Snyder]

Was not the most popular.

[Angela Kinsey]

You can see he sings like an angel. And then the dance part, you see him counting like one, two.

[Josh Snyder]

Oh, yeah, I did tap dance. I mean, they made me tap dance for this show. And I was like, you know, and I really thought I. I did a good. I really thought I was doing a good job. That's the sad part. Then when I watched it back, I was like, oh, my God. You know, the whole time.

[Seth Meyers]

And my kids, you know, obviously we film their little recitals where they sing songs at the end of the year. And either of my boys, the minute they have to do a little like even a hand dance move, they both their mouths shut like they can't sing and do. They can't do anything. I would love to say that Randy Travis thing brought me back to a childhood road trip. But I would say it only brought me back like two days. Cause my wife still listens to a ton of Randy Travis in the car. And I don't, I don't get a vote. And I hear. I would say Deeper Than the Holler is a song I've heard a little bit more than I want.

[Angela Kinsey]

Deeper than the holler. I love that song.

[Josh Snyder]

We're digging up bones Digging up bones.

[Seth Meyers]

Digging up bones on the other hand.

[Narrator/Poet]

On the other hand on the other.

[Bill Hader]

Hand this is a different pod.

[Josh Snyder]

That'S actually. We bonded on a road trip, Angela. Just because our love of like old country music or just knowledge.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, we didn't know that.

[Josh Snyder]

We didn't know that about each other.

[Angela Kinsey]

We were driving to Palm Springs and there's that part where you round the corner in the big wind.

[Bill Hader]

Oh yeah, the wind farm.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like the wind farm and you lose service. And there's like the. That you drive like down this road is like really dusty, like things. I don't know. What are those called?

[Bill Hader]

The tumbleweeds.

[Angela Kinsey]

Tumbleweeds. Anyway, it was pivotal to the story.

[Seth Meyers]

Not for anybody watching on video. She did do a wonderful tumbleweed gesture.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank you.

[Seth Meyers]

And we should have gotten it sooner.

[Angela Kinsey]

But we lost all like a, you know, signal. And for some reason I started. I had old country and we started singing and we knew every song and all of us. And all of a sudden it was.

[Josh Snyder]

Like Dan Seals, Restless Heart. Like all these like old.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Josh Snyder]

80S country.

[Seth Meyers]

My. Yeah. My father in law is a real country music fan.

[Angela Kinsey]

Really?

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, yeah, real. I mean like it plays all the time.

[Angela Kinsey]

Where's he from?

[Seth Meyers]

Well, he's from like New York, Long island. But he, he then moved out when he was like 18 years old to New Mexico. So that's where my, that's my wife grew up. And so they got, they've got some. I mean. Oh yeah, he, he, he owns more than one bolo tie.

[Bill Hader]

He's not afraid.

[Josh Snyder]

You never know where you're going to go.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. He's got a lot of turquoise belts.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Did he wear a bolo tie at your wedding?

[Seth Meyers]

He mercifully didn't. But I was at a. I have been at a wedding with him in New Mexico where he and I both wore bolo ties. So no judgment.

[Angela Kinsey]

Our friend who co officiated us is from Montana and wore a bolo tie.

[Seth Meyers]

That's good though.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I. I mean, you know, I. My family loved it. They're like that young man in the bolo tie can really articulate himself.

[Josh Snyder]

They're a lot easier to tie.

[Bill Hader]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Bill Hader]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Seth Meyers]

Here we go.

[Bill Hader]

Angela. So like, where would you, would you take like weekend trips from Jakarta or were they all like sort of spring break trips when you would.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, we. Yeah. I mean, you guys, I feel like sometimes I talk about my childhood and people are like, just enough. All right. Like Rainn Wilson used to make fun of me. He'd be like, oh, is this another monkey story?

[Josh Snyder]

She has a lot of monkey stories monkeys don't.

[Seth Meyers]

Like, I can't believe you just told us one. You've got more.

[Josh Snyder]

There's like multiple.

[Angela Kinsey]

There's so many.

[Seth Meyers]

I one time that monkey came back into my life three or four more times.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, exactly. I one time did like a monologue at iOS, like doing improv called When Monkeys attack me because I've been around so many monkeys. But no, we would do weekend trips. The company my dad worked for, and this was my favorite trip, they leased an island out in the Thousand Islands.

[Bill Hader]

Okay, where are the Thousand Islands?

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm sorry, they're just, you know, right off the, like the shores of Java, you know about. It was about a three hour boat ride. They would put us on a supply boat that would then be going further out to the rigs. So we're in open ocean. But so my dad's company had this island and it was about a 30 minute or 20 minute boat ride from Komodo island, if you've heard of that. That helps your geography. Anyone listening? And it had three houses on it, strategically kind of put. So you had your own corner of the island. Right. And it was lovely and we would. It was like someone giving you a private island resort and their were, you know, there was a cook and There was, like, a boat driver, and it was just lovely. And we got to know these people over the years that lived out on the islands like that. But we. There was a lottery system, and you went, like, probably, like, every three months, your family got to go. It was one of the incentives of, like, hey, come work for us here, and you'll get to do these things. They also had cabins up in the mountains that we would go to up in, like, the rice paddies and beautiful. But so that was my favorite thing, was to go out there and you would wake up, you know, they had, like, the trash cans, had a cover you had to put on, and they would, like, really wire them shut, because you would wake up, and a Komodo dragon would be in the trash can, you know? So imagine. Now imagine me in the 80s, I moved from Indonesia. We get transferred to Dallas, Texas, and someone's talking about, like, a raccoon in the trash. I'm like, well, we had Komodo dragons.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, so you were insufferable.

[Josh Snyder]

Oh, totally.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's the worst.

[Josh Snyder]

Totally.

[Bill Hader]

How scary is a Komodo dragon encounter? Are you just like, well, they're not gonna come get me. They're just big and they're not trouble. Or is it like, oh, this is terrifying?

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, you just back up and you're like, I'm gonna let you go your way very slowly. Go on your way. And we went to Indonesia last year. I really wanted the kids to see where I grew up, and. And I wanted them to experience, like, Indonesia more like in the 70s, 80s. So we went to Sumba island, and one morning, we were walking from breakfast, and we saw. It was a. Was it Josh? It was like a tiger.

[Josh Snyder]

It was like a monitor lizard, I think.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, but they're very similar looking to Komodo dragon. And it was huge, and it was crossing the path. And Josh was like. Josh is, first of all terrified of snakes. Like, he left us on the side of the road, me and the kids, when they were little. Cause he thought there was a snake and ran. Ran away from us. But he wasn't as scared of that. Cause you said it has legs.

[Josh Snyder]

It has legs. It's a natural. You know, I can put my head around that. But the snake, I can't.

[Seth Meyers]

I like you like, I trust this guy. Yeah, he's got legs. I got legs.

[Josh Snyder]

I got legs.

[Seth Meyers]

We understand each other.

[Angela Kinsey]

Exactly.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah.

[Bill Hader]

And if a Komodo dragon wants to come at you fast, can they. Can they be very fast?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And the bummer Is, I would say, having watched a couple videos, it's also a little bit funny. You know, when lizards walk fast, it's like, both terrifying, but also super funny.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Snyder]

So you don't. Yeah, but they're claws. Seeing their. I mean, it's like a dinosaur. It's like a dinosaur. You know, it looks like Jurassic park or something, but their claws are so big and sharp, and you're just like, nope, nope.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, let it go. Do its thing.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. Yeah. So you just came back to Texas and you were just like, chock full of stories about monkeys and dragons.

[Angela Kinsey]

I was the worst. People were just like, who is this?

[Seth Meyers]

But at least you got over it. Oh, no, you didn't get over it. Even before the office. Rainn Wilson also.

[Angela Kinsey]

No Rainn Wilson, he would just tease me all the time about it. And he would be like. And he also would. I would speak Indonesian and he'd be like, you're making it up. I'm like, I'm not.

[Josh Snyder]

I mean, it was nice to hear, you know, her actually speaking Indonesian with people who spoke it because, like, the same with us. Like, we're like, I don't know if she's telling the truth.

[Seth Meyers]

So you. So when you went over there, how many was it? The two of you and two kids?

[Angela Kinsey]

Three.

[Seth Meyers]

All three kids.

[Angela Kinsey]

We're blended. So I have a daughter and Josh has two boys.

[Seth Meyers]

And what are the age gap between your kids?

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, so here's the crazy thing. We were sort of the divorcees at preschool.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

We met, like. Actually, I feel like one of the first times we really talked is they had a craft station you could sign up for, and someone had all of the Legos for, like, Star Wars.

[Josh Snyder]

You know, they were building the Death Star. Lego.

[Angela Kinsey]

The Death Star? Yeah, you know, huge. It was like thousands of pieces. And I went to volunteer, and I'm shit at Legos because I don't want to read the instructions. And, like, don't ask me to put together your Ikea coffee.

[Seth Meyers]

I can't believe you have to bake with this woman. Josh.

[Josh Snyder]

Believe me. Believe me. Yeah, it's rough.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. And he was, like, putting. And I was kind of putting things together, and I think then he had to go back and redo what I did.

[Seth Meyers]

But, yeah, he had to go back and sign up for a different craft.

[Angela Kinsey]

He was like, I can't sign up.

[Seth Meyers]

So that's amazing. So how are your kids the same grade?

[Angela Kinsey]

Isabelle and Jack are the same age, and they're only four days apart.

[Josh Snyder]

Four days apart.

[Seth Meyers]

Wow.

[Josh Snyder]

Then our youngest is also born in May too. So they're all two years. He's two years younger.

[Angela Kinsey]

But yeah, May is birthday palooza for us.

[Seth Meyers]

It's just Isabelle and Jack were how old when you guys met then, if it was preschool?

[Josh Snyder]

Well, when we met met. I mean, they started preschool when they were like two and a half. So they knew each other.

[Seth Meyers]

And so when did you guys. When did you guys become a couple?

[Angela Kinsey]

It wasn't until like, they were like, DK year.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah. So probably the. They must have been like six when we started dating. Maybe six.

[Angela Kinsey]

But I also. I didn't know the parents at the school because that was when I was filming the Office. So I couldn't drop my daughter off for school because I had to be on set at 5:30 and then I couldn't pick her up because I was usually on set till about 5, 6pm.

[Seth Meyers]

Greg Daniels would famously say, we're burning daylight.

[Angela Kinsey]

We're burning daylight. But thanks to Steve Carell, though, we really kept a nice schedule so you could make it home for dinner. That was like, big for him. He had young kids too. But I would go at lunch. I picked a preschool sort of between work and home. And on my lunch break, I would go to the school and I would have lunch with Isabel. And so I got to know kids. And this has kind of become like our family lore. You know how you have those stories. My first memory of Jack is I was there for story time, and there's this big tree that they all sit under, and they sit crisscross applesauce, you know, with their snack. And I was sitting there with Isabel in my lap and the teacher, Myra, who was just like. If you could like, make a person into just a hug. She was just like a hug of a person. And she was reading a story and she stopped mid story and she goes, jack, dirt is not food, okay? We don't eat dirt. And I look over and this kid is face down in the dirt and he got dirt all over. And that's my first memory of Jack, which I'm sure he'd love that.

[Josh Snyder]

I'm telling you, I taught him that.

[Seth Meyers]

And you were like, yeah. You were like, jack is by any chance your daddy single?

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah, that's the one. That's the one I want, by the way.

[Bill Hader]

This is another.

[Seth Meyers]

Another great advertisement for soup is that Jack's just chowing down dirt when he gets to school.

[Angela Kinsey]

Exactly. Geez, I'm so like, I need something.

[Josh Snyder]

With something he said he ate this morning. I don't know I had soup for him.

[Seth Meyers]

We had breakfast soup.

[Josh Snyder]

Why is he hungry?

[Angela Kinsey]

Breakfast soup.

[Seth Meyers]

So I have to ask, by. In sixth grade, when they were six years old, were they. Did the two of them get along? Because obviously, little did they know, they're so close.

[Angela Kinsey]

They're so close.

[Seth Meyers]

They're wonderful.

[Angela Kinsey]

And, you know, sometimes when we're out in the world, like, people, you know, you're. You meet new people, and they're like, oh, you know, how old are you guys? And they both say, you know, they're the same age. And people will be like, oh, you're twins. And they used to be like, no. And they would kind of get into the story, and now they're just like, yeah, they're just easier. Yeah, it's just easier. But, you know, when you blend a family, too, you're like, well, this could go one of both ways, right? They're either gonna. Really. And they're so close, and. And at school, they have the same friend group, so, like, Isabel's group of gals and his group of, like, guy pals, they all hang out together. And. Anyway, I'm just. We're just really thrilled.

[Seth Meyers]

That's amazing. Wait.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, Isabel has started dating Jack's best friend. And he was like, but it's all good.

[Josh Snyder]

It's all good.

[Angela Kinsey]

At first he said, no, you cannot. And then he's like, okay, that's better than.

[Bill Hader]

I thought you were saying they were dating each other.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, no, no.

[Bill Hader]

I know, technically, but.

[Seth Meyers]

But that'll be fun. When they're like. When people ask if. And they're like, we're twins, and we're a couple, and sister and brother.

[Josh Snyder]

It's very cool.

[Seth Meyers]

But it's everything. But the riddle is, it's all, we get the holidays.

[Josh Snyder]

We always get the holidays that way. You know what I mean?

[Seth Meyers]

So you took your all three to Indonesia. How old were the kids when you took them?

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, last year, so they were 14 and 16.

[Seth Meyers]

And were they excited?

[Angela Kinsey]

So excited. And I really didn't. I told Josh I'd been wanting to take them for years, but I was like, I don't want to go all that way. And then them not remember it because, like, my family went to Holland when I was 4. I don't remember it.

[Seth Meyers]

Bad memory.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right? You know, so I was like, I want them to remember it, and I want it to be a core memory. And then I was like, I hope they like it. I hope they like it. What if they don't like it? And Josh was like, I'm gonna need you to Relax. Because it. Because it meant so much.

[Josh Snyder]

She really stressed out about, like, you know, just this.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh Snyder]

Because it was so important to her. You know, this is such a big part of her life that.

[Seth Meyers]

And then it's a big trip.

[Josh Snyder]

It's a big, huge, huge trip.

[Angela Kinsey]

And we went to Singapore. Singapore first, because Singapore. My parents had really good friends there, and we would go there a lot when I was a kid. And that's like, where I went to the dentist. And, like, I don't know, like, I. Like, I had random doctor's appointments in Singapore.

[Seth Meyers]

How far was it to go to the dentist? From Indonesia to Singapore?

[Angela Kinsey]

It's like an hour and a half flight.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay.

[Bill Hader]

And you'd ideally only go once a year or twice a year?

[Angela Kinsey]

No, we would go a couple times a year. I mean, it's kind of like flying to Vegas. You know what I mean? From la.

[Seth Meyers]

And, Josh, you still go to Vegas to see your dentist, right?

[Bill Hader]

Always.

[Angela Kinsey]

But we had friends there. And then we would also, like, shop and whatever. But. Yeah, so they loved Singapore, and then. So we did Singapore first, and then we went to Sumba island, and then we went to Ubud.

[Bill Hader]

Okay. Did you have any swings and misses? Did you put anything in the itinerary? That was ill advised.

[Angela Kinsey]

I feel like I learned this time because I did have a swing and miss when we were in London. That was our first big family trip out of the United States. And I love a museum, and I packed us in a lot of museums. And by the time we got to Westminster Abbey, and I was like, you guys, come here, come here, come here. This is where Elizabeth I is buried. Okay, so here's the story. Her and Mary, Queen of Scots. Oh, my God. You know, and they were just like, no more. They were like. Josh was like, ang, you have. We're done. We're done. Like, so I tried to, like this trip, make it adventure and cultural and, you know, like, have a balance because, yeah, Josh was like, it's good.

[Seth Meyers]

I think it's nice. By the way, obviously, you guys have a good relationship that Josh could step in and tell you that.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. We have a lot of, like, sidebar, you know. Yeah, we have. I don't know about you guys. You're both married. Seth, I know you're. And Josh. Yeah, well, we are. Pantry is, like, right off the kitchen, and that's where we have. Like, we'll be parenting or something will happen, and we'll be like, pantry, pantry.

[Josh Snyder]

That's what we talk crap about. The kids, too.

[Bill Hader]

Do your kids ever see you in there and be like, oh, I want no part of this?

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't think they. I mean, now if they listen to this, I don't think they've ever picked up on it because you're always cooking and doing stuff.

[Josh Snyder]

But we ran self absorbed, you know?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Josh Snyder]

Us teenagers care about us.

[Bill Hader]

14 and 16. That's. That's what you get.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

But the problem with New York City apartments is they're like, we can hear you in the pantry.

[Angela Kinsey]

But yeah.

[Bill Hader]

And Josh, when growing up, so you. You did Nashville, Any other sort of regular spots that you go, Were your grandparents nearby? Would you.

[Josh Snyder]

I mean, we went to Kansas a lot, obviously. And then, you know, growing up in Colorado, we. We went to the mountains all the time, you know, so, like, we just, you know, we kind of lived in a place that people go to vacation.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah.

[Josh Snyder]

So we. We really spent a lot of time, like camping and just kind of skiing. Obviously, too.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah. Would you car camp or were you guys hiking deep into the woods carrying.

[Josh Snyder]

No, no, we'd car camp. Yeah, none of us were huge. Like, you know, backpacker, like, bring our own gear stuff. I'm still not that way. I have to have my.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, but he's telling you guys he loves hiking so much.

[Josh Snyder]

I love day hiking, but, like the overnight stuff, I'm just like, I. I don't know.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah, I still haven't done it, but I just. My wife's best friend lives up in Portland with her boyfriend and they do it. And I just bumped into her boyfriend at a show and I was like, hey, we want to do one of these, like, multi night trips. And he was like, you do? And I was like, definitely. And he's like, sure, But I just feel like I need someone to take me. I can't just take my wife into the woods because then if something goes wrong, it is all on me. And you know, if I. If we hang a bear canister in the wrong way, see what happens.

[Angela Kinsey]

Josh, you lost me at bear canister. If I have to hang a bear canister, this is not the trip for me.

[Seth Meyers]

Also, I'm very upset with the makers of bear canisters. If there's a wrong way to hang it where they're like, oh, if it's.

[Josh Snyder]

That way, a little easier.

[Seth Meyers]

If it's that way, the bears are gonna be coming. That's like, this is on you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wait, you guys. Josh and said like, what are your. Like, like, do you guys do like a brother's trip? Like, do you guys go and do that kind of thing.

[Seth Meyers]

We have a. We have the same. We went to college together, so we have a college friend group. And we get together once a year with 10 other guys, which is fantastic. And then we do a trip every year to go see a football game with my parents in Pittsburgh, where my dad's from. And this year I'm gonna bring my boys, not my little girl. Cause she's too young. But that's nice. But so we. But that's. I would say our trip. But that's two annuals that we kind of knock out. And then like.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's great.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, that's great. I mean, we're very lucky that we have this group of friends that we get to be brothers within the badiah.

[Bill Hader]

Yeah. And then we also both worked for the same theater in Amsterdam. And every now and again, there's like a reunion back there at Boom Chicago. And so we'll find ourselves there. And then like, right now, I'm in New York. I'm gonna see Seth later today. I just saw him in New Hampshire over the weekend.

[Seth Meyers]

We do pretty good for people on opposite coasts. We do.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. You really do. Yeah. Cause I think about that with our kids. I don't know, you know, if you think about that, Seth. But I'm like, I hope that, you know, right now we are the people planning the trips, Right?

[Seth Meyers]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

And sort of creating the memories. And I hope when they get older that they still find a way to do that with each other.

[Seth Meyers]

I know. I mean, even that thing, which I'm sure you guys have too, like, which is a much smaller version of this. Like, sometimes my wife and I will both be in the kitchen and the kids will be in the breakfast nook, all eating, and we will just realize they're having conversation that is not dependent upon us.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And it's also. It's not. They're not fighting, they're not yelling, and they're not asking us a question. And it's just like, oh, fuck, they're talking.

[Angela Kinsey]

They have their own thing. Yeah. That has been something really cool. Now that we have teenagers, they. They really. They make dinner together. And we hear them laughing and, like, talking in the kitchen. And they're playing their music and, you know, it's just really cool. Although you do. There's phrases that you're gonna like. I don't know if they'll still be around when your kids are teenagers, but this is what we hear all the time. Okay, let's low key lock in. Let's low key lock in. And make this pasta sauce. And I'm like, why are we. What? Why are we low keying?

[Seth Meyers]

Like, you're at home. You can be whatever key you want.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah, you don't have to worry about keys here. That's the whole point of home.

[Seth Meyers]

Hey, that's a safe place. You guys, it is just delightful to talk to you both. And it's always so nice to see you, Angela. It's so lovely to see you, Josh.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, I know. I told Josh, I said, you're my favorite. Like, you know, like, if there's a talk show, like, thing for anything that comes up, I'm always like, can I please go? Like, Seth is so fun and it's easy. Please.

[Seth Meyers]

You mentioned rain. I just had rain on, and I told him after the interview. I don't know why. It just got served out to me on. Sorry, social media, but that famous office outtake where you just creep up next to him and he screams, fuck. I mean, it just popped up. And I watched it like 10 times, and I said to Rain, I'm like, I just cut this. He's like, I know exactly which one you're talking about.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. And, you know, it's so funny, too, because that was an outtake, you know? Yes. So the director told me they had me wear flats, so I was as short as possible. And I'm already 5:1. And rain is, like, super. And they said, we want you to get as close to his elbow as possible, but, you know, don't make, you know, just sneak right up there. And Rain didn't know that direction. He knew I was going to come up behind him, and so I just came right up to his elbow. And he looked down and he went. And everyone started laughing. And the director was like, oh, wait, wait, wait, we got to do that again. We got to do it again.

[Seth Meyers]

So, yeah, it's so good. All right, before we let you guys go, another reminder to everybody. You can make this exclamation point releases. There it is. Look at that beautiful book. You guys look great on the COVID.

[Bill Hader]

That looks like it was a Fun photo shoot.

[Seth Meyers]

October 21st. Do get that, and we have questions for you. And Josh is gonna ask them. Speed round.

[Bill Hader]

Okay, here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational?

[Josh Snyder]

Adventurous.

[Angela Kinsey]

Educational.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, we knew your answer.

[Bill Hader]

What is your favorite means of transportation?

[Angela Kinsey]

Car.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah, car. Up the coast with Ange.

[Bill Hader]

Great. Ooh, even more detail. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with?

[Angela Kinsey]

Maybe the Boleyns.

[Bill Hader]

Oh, the Anne Boleyns.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, my God, you really did like being a Westminster.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I know. I was an English major. You guys. I wrote a term paper on him below.

[Josh Snyder]

I'm not gonna go on that one. The Myers brothers.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, thanks. We're a good hangman.

[Bill Hader]

Larry and Hillary also.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, you're not gonna get out of it without our parents.

[Angela Kinsey]

Randy, Travis, he's ready to go.

[Josh Snyder]

Let's do it. I'm ready to get all of it.

[Bill Hader]

If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be?

[Angela Kinsey]

Josh.

[Bill Hader]

Okay, Josh, do you want to pick someone other than Angela?

[Josh Snyder]

Well, I mean, besides you. I thought.

[Seth Meyers]

No, no, no.

[Bill Hader]

I would pick her, but it doesn't have to be Josh.

[Seth Meyers]

He just said he'd drive up the coast with you.

[Josh Snyder]

So I pick you up.

[Seth Meyers]

We know where it's hard for you.

[Bill Hader]

Okay, Angela, what's your hometown?

[Angela Kinsey]

Archer City, Texas.

[Bill Hader]

Archer City, Texas. If you had to pitch Archer City, Texas, you're the head of the board of tourism. How do you get people to come to Archer, make the pitch?

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, first of all, it's home of Larry McMurtry. He wrote Lonesome Dove, Lonesome Dove, which.

[Seth Meyers]

My mom and I just reread.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, Lonesome Dove.

[Seth Meyers]

Just a shout out to Lonesome Dove, the most readable thousand page book you're ever gonna pick up.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. Terms of Endearment, the Last Picture Show. Right. He did the screen adaptation for Brokeback Mountain. He bought so many estate books, like huge estate book collections, that we had the largest rare book collection in the Southwest. And we're in Travel and Leisure magazine. He bought up all of downtown and made it into all of these bookstores. And it's also home of a Dairy Queen. That's. You can't go through the drive through. Just. It doesn't work. Don't bother stopping at the. Just go right to the window. And also rodeo every year. Don't want to miss it. And Angela Kinsey might be in town since she was on the audience now.

[Bill Hader]

Josh, what is your hometown?

[Seth Meyers]

I do want to jump in real quick just because we talked about country music. Larry McMurtry's son, James McMurtry is a country singer. And I will just say Canola Fields will be my favorite country song. Oh, yes, I turn it back over.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Seth Meyers]

Shout out.

[Bill Hader]

Josh, what is your hometown?

[Josh Snyder]

Well, I think. I guess Wichita would be where I was born, you know, like around that time.

[Bill Hader]

So pitch Wichita.

[Josh Snyder]

I mean, if you're looking to slow down. And honestly, like, yeah, I will say when I was younger, like, I did not enjoy, like, going back for too long, but, like, now when I go back, you know, even just this last week for a wedding, it's just. It was actually really nice. Just, you know, the stress level is like, way down here, you know, compared to where we live. So it's just a simple.

[Angela Kinsey]

Lots of parking lots.

[Josh Snyder]

Good, good life. And. Yeah. So if you're looking to slow down, head to Wichita.

[Seth Meyers]

Great.

[Bill Hader]

And then Seth has our final question.

[Seth Meyers]

Have either of you been to the Grand Canyon?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Josh Snyder]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Seth Meyers]

Was it worth it?

[Angela Kinsey]

It was so worth it. I signed up to do a horseback ride on the east rim. And I was driving cross country with a friend and she did not want to do it, so I showed up by myself and was alone in this group of families and tourists. And we watch the sunrise as you horseback ride on the east rim.

[Bill Hader]

That's good.

[Angela Kinsey]

Highly recommend.

[Josh Snyder]

I'd go with that, eh?

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. I've always said. I've always said, I believe it's the soup of geographical food.

[Josh Snyder]

Yeah, I saw it and it was great. You know, and like, yes, I'm very.

[Seth Meyers]

Much team Josh on this, but yeah, you're like.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're like Chevy Chase and there's so many facilities. Good.

[Seth Meyers]

You know, that's the one way I get Snake Place.

[Josh Snyder]

I don't go to Snake places.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, Snake City. Yeah, Snake City. No, nobody got feet. None of those reptiles.

[Josh Snyder]

No, no, no, no.

[Seth Meyers]

Great talking to you both.

[Bill Hader]

Thank you so much. Congrats on the book.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, thanks you guys.

[Josh Snyder]

Thank you so much.

[Narrator/Poet]

Well, Joshua and Angela will call them Josh and Ange. Not only can they bake a cake, but they can saute Fry and Blanche. When Josh's dad was at the wheel, he wouldn't break the law. Eight hour driving. All the while it felt just like a crawl. Wishing there was some way to get that motor juiced. Crossing into Colorado felt like a turbo boost. And Josh was a decent tap dancer in the Oklahoma show. One tape in the tape player playing Randy songs. And then they rolled on into Nashville, where Josh took on the gambler. He was young but had conviction, Conviction that was strong. He would entertain the girls when he would sing along. Angela Fish, she went away. Dad was a drilling engineer. Jakarta, Indonesia. Stayed there for 12 years when she came back to Texas. Raccoon they would appear. But compared to komodo dragons, they weren't much to fear. There was that time they bought a monkey way up in the mountains actually, it was bought by their friends who had a van. Then someone said, hey, way, there's the monkey. Dad didn't find it funny. Its cage was made in haste by weaving pieces of rattan and off into the jungle the monkey ran. That was the monkey's clam.

[Angela Kinsey]

Sam.