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A
Hey, budgie.
B
Hey, Sufi.
A
How are you?
B
I'm good. I feel like I haven't seen you in a minute. Yeah. Cause I was seeing you a lot and then, I don't know, I've been missing you.
A
Just took a little bit of break. It's great to see you. I'm wondering if you are missing New England in the fall.
B
Maybe. I mean. Yeah. We are coming up on. By the time this episode releases, it'll be my first anniversary.
A
Oh, that's right.
B
Is on the 13th. And remembering back to that, like, the leaves were changing color. We were on the Farmer's Almanac website leading up to our wedding to sort of track when is it prime leaf peeping season. And it was really. It fell in our weekend. And so I can only imagine that it's beautiful back there right now.
A
It's good. It is when I realize how happy I am to be living on this side of our great nation.
B
Yeah.
A
And I know you like your side plenty, too, and that's fine. But it is really great right now. And we went on a bike ride. We went on an E bike ride with our college buddies, a beautiful one. And now I've done the same bike ride with our boys about half a year.
B
That's great.
A
And it's been. It's been fantastic.
B
Do they have E bikes, the boys?
A
No, we're just doing pedal bikes. They're just fully pedaling.
B
And it is as flat as you can get.
A
It's a real. It's a real flat ride. Yeah, but it's beautiful.
B
It's one of those rail trails that's been paved over.
A
And there's something pretty. We have to load the bikes onto a bike rack and drive to the start of the rail trail. But it's a real nice little weekend activity. Getting on bikes with the kids. Both my kids just slam their brakes on when they want to stop. Usually I'm right behind them and have veered into the bushes multiple times to avoid a collision. So that's not great.
B
Do they do it to be like, we're like dirt bike racers and we want to skid to a stop or they just want to stop?
A
Sorry, did you say dumb bike racers? Because that's dirt bike. No, dumb. They're dumb bike racers where they just think it's fun to stop. Did you. Wait, have we talked on the pod about you coming to Brooklyn? Has that happened yet? I don't think so. Have we recapped? I mean, what a night.
B
Yeah.
A
I mean, if you haven't seen Pashi As Gavin Newsom on the Jimmy Kimmel Brooklyn shows. Run don't walk too your youtubes.
B
Yeah, it was really. I mean, I love playing Newsome on Kimmel. It's really fun. And most of the time when I do it, you know, it's here in Hollywood. It's like a mile from my house. It's so nice to be able to pop down to the studio. And everyone sort of in the audience for the most part really knows Gavin Newsome, who's only getting more and more sort of the spotlights on him more and more.
A
Yeah.
B
And so his visibility is pretty high. And then I was slated to do this Kimmel show in Brooklyn and then all this stuff happened where Kimmel got taken off the air and obviously.
A
Right. Because he crossed the line. And I know this is about politics. He crossed the line.
B
I was, you know, I was upset about it for a myriad reasons, but one of them also was it was a bummer that I was going to get to go to New York and see you. And. And then it was off the books. And then very quickly he was back on. And I have, you know, he does a week of shows. It was the seventh time he's done a week of shows at the, at bam, the Brooklyn Academy of Music. And I used to. There was a summer I lived a couple blocks from there and they have movie theaters there and I would go and see old movies there. I'd seen a play there. And I was like, what? I wonder what room they're going to be doing their show in. And I had never been in the main theater. And I have to admit, when I walked out for rehearsal into this 3,000 seat, three tiered room, I was like, oh, this is, this is gonna be something else. And I was definitely not, not nervous. I had to ride out on stage on a low rider city bike, which they had asked me. They were like, are you okay on a bike? And I was like, yeah, I'm fine. And then I was like, oh, but it is a low rider bike and there are three and I do have to do a quick lap around Kimmel.
A
You. It was, I mean, again, as I, as I joked again to the same group of college friends, they picked the right Myers brother to enter on a bike, by the way. Then a super funny dismount where you basically just jumped off the bike while it was still moving.
B
Well, yeah, I was, I was pretty charged up at that point.
A
So, you know, it was in the monologue, in the body, in the monologue. And Jimmy Kimmel basically mentioned Gavin Newsom. And then you came out. Now, I think for loyal Kimmel viewers, right. Like, they know that you play Gavin Newsom on the show. I think for the, you know, maybe the 3200 people in the house that night, I would guess, like, maybe 2,000 of them definitely thought it was Gavin Newsom for the first five to ten seconds, like. Cause it was only. I mean, I think it's why it was so smart to put you on a lowrider city bike, because that's where you're like, well, hold on, that wouldn't be.
B
Yeah, I do think. I do think they prepped the audience. I think they showed some previous clips.
A
Very smart. Very smart.
B
Which also just sort of, like, sort of greases the wheels for me. It makes my life easier. And then you are sort of a guest cameo in the piece, which, you know, mackenzie, my wife was reading some comments afterwards, and she was like, so many people think it's Seth doing Gavin Newsom. And I was like, yeah, but then Seth comes out.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, how could you possibly write a comment like, oh, Seth does such a good Gavin Newsom when I'm also there?
A
You're there. Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
They think it's. It's classic prestige. It's a movie. Christopher Nol movie about. Anyway, magician stuff. It's real good. But the other thing, I'll say, you know, you mentioned you were nervous. You know, I was less nervous one because, you know, obviously I was just playing myself all too. You know, it's a talk show. I do one of those every night. But you had, like, a real. Like. I was like, oh, Pasci has, like, four full pages of bits here. And again, not just. You're doing, you know, line delivery so well. You have added a lot of physicality to your Gavin Newsom. And it's a real. It's a. It has a real specificity to it. So we were backstage, and I was kind of like, like. And I was. Guy kept going over, looking at my script, and again, I had, like, you know, a tenth of the lines you did. And I looked over at one point, I'm like, oh, Pashi's and Pachi's got his game face on. This is a real thing. Anyway, I was also just so proud of you. You crushed so hard. It was so fun. And I can't remember the last time, like, we've been on a stage. Like, I mean, I don't, you know.
B
32 people ever been on a stage like that. Yeah.
A
So it was really cool to. And again, what an incredible Gentleman Jimmy Kimmel is and his entire staff such nice people. And that's why it breaks my heart that they crossed the line and got what was coming to him. And I know it's not. I don't want to get political, but you know, there's gotta be a line when you cross. You gotta get. You gotta get your comeuppance.
B
Yeah, yeah. One real quick travel thing. Yeah, I know. I've said, you know, when you're on a plane and a baby's crying, it's sort of, you need noise canceling headphones. It's not the baby's fault. But you know what I think is worse than a baby crying on a plane?
A
What's that?
B
Two people having a conversation for hours.
A
You were on a flight with dad. You were on a flight with dad and a perfect stranger.
B
I don't think it should be allowed.
A
So these are two people who, like, know each other?
B
Yeah, I think so. Just chatting through the whole flight. It's like, you know, you can talk about like, hey, are you gonna get a drink? Like, yeah, let's get a drink. And like a little chit chat here and there. But to just talk for hours on a plane. Dronin on. I think it's. I'm not gonna win that argument. It's not like planes are gonna sort.
A
Of say, it would be super funny if you called the flight attendant over and said, I'm so sorry, but they're so, they're having a conversation.
B
Yeah, I did have to tell a guy, like a grown ass man who was just flipping through Instagram or TikTok or something like that before the plane took off without headphones in.
A
Oh, that. I mean.
B
And I like got up and came around. I was like, hey, man, do you have any headphones you could use with that? And another guy sitting across the aisle was like, thank you. And it's like, that has to be like, I know flight attendants have a lot they have to do, but it seems like they should be ready to sort of whip that criticism out at people right away.
A
Yeah, we. I was on a flight recently where I hope I haven't told the story. Edit it out if I have, but.
B
Edit it out anyway. Jeff.
A
But we landed and the flight attendant said, hey, people have a connection. If you don't have to get anywhere if this is your final destination, can you let everybody who has a connection get off first? I've had this happen before. It never works. Yeah, everybody gets up and then everybody's angrier than they would have been because an effort has been made, and that effort has been ignored.
B
Yeah.
A
This time, literally every single person stayed in their seat. And like, eight people got up and, like, raced out. And as they raced out, they were like, oh, my God. Thank you, everybody.
B
Thank you.
A
Thank you. And then when I came went out, I said to the flight attendants, I'm like, I've never seen that work. They're like, we've never seen it work.
B
Wow.
A
They were like, I can't believe, like, they were in the best mood because they had been listened to. And ultimately, like, everybody had made a choice for the betterment of the people who had connections to catch.
B
Yeah. Good for them.
A
Good for them.
B
Yeah. I flew somewhere once, and at the baggage claim, there was like a line that was maybe six feet off of the belt that the baggage would arrive on. And it was like, stand behind the line until you see your bag. Right. And it was so much more civilized. Everyone just gets right up against that belt and you gotta, like, push between them.
A
Yeah.
B
Drag your bag between them. It's like, just. You don't have to be right up against it. But I don't know that we're ever gonna win that battle to have people step back.
A
But it's nice when there's a line, when there's a clearly marked line and people don't cross it. It's wonderful.
B
Yeah. Like, Kimmel did.
A
Like, Kimmel should do.
B
Love our guests today, I gotta say. Yeah. Mary Elizabeth Ellis and Charlie Day, you probably know the most from Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Yeah.
A
But they're wonderful, wonderful actors. I've been lucky enough to. I mean, I'm sure you have too. You run into them socially and they're both delightful human beings.
B
I'm very excited to see Reno911. They were in Reno911. Charlie's. You know, Charlie from Horrible Bosses. Super Mario Brothers movie.
A
You probably haven't seen Super Mario Brothers movie.
B
I have. Not really fun, I gotta say.
A
Really fun.
B
You know what's really fun in general is Super Mario Brothers, like, Mario is the game. Yeah, yeah, It's. It's great. It's perfect. It's. I don't have a Nintendo Switch, but, like, they just put out Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 as like a re release. I don't know, remastered, whatever. And part of me is like, oh, should I get a switch? And I have no time whatsoever. But those games make me happy. Mary Elizabeth Ellis, you know her also from New Girl. She was Nick's ex girlfriend. Caroline, everything. These guys are in great Santa Clara Eat a diet.
A
Let's chat with him now.
B
Great.
A
All right. Let's listen to some music and do it. Bye.
B
Bye.
C
Family chips with the mice brothers. Family chips with the mice.
D
Here we go.
B
Yes.
C
Hello. Hello.
B
We had Charlie for a second, then Charlie got booted out.
C
I kicked him out.
A
Oh, there he goes. Wow, look at you guys.
B
Hi, guys.
D
What's happening?
A
How far apart are you two in of physical miles right now?
D
We are in the same house.
C
50Ft.
A
You're in the same house.
D
We're in the same house in different rooms.
C
This is the only way we communicate in our home now.
A
Via podcast. You have to find a podcast.
D
I will say, Mary Elizabeth. Is this the first time we've ever zoomed with each other?
C
Probably, yeah.
D
Otherwise we would just.
B
I don't know. There wasn't. Like, you guys didn't have pandemic zooms where you were on with.
C
I know it seems like. But we wouldn't have been together.
A
We would have been together.
D
We would have. Yeah. And we wouldn't have been social distancing within our own space.
B
Fair enough.
D
Fair enough.
A
It's lovely to see you both.
D
Back at you guys. Back at you guys.
B
Yeah. Real quick. On a slightly sort of somber note, I guess, but the last time I saw you guys was at the memorial for Lynne Marie Stewart, who I worked with on the Pee Wee show on Broadway, and Charlie played your mom on Always Sunny. And just what a lovely event that was. And what a celebration of just a woman who just glowed and just had clearly, like, made friends everywhere she went and made everyone's life better everywhere she went and was just like a classic. Like, they were showing clips of her on Laverne and Shirley and Magnum PI and that she sort of, from a young age that I sort of hadn't recognized all that stuff all the way through to the end being on your guys show. And yeah, it was just sort of a real light and it was a great.
D
I mean, we had the privilege of working with her for 20 years. Yeah, 20 years. Because I remember seeing her. John Papsadero was helping us cast that first season, and we were looking for the role of my mother, and we saw her on a tape and we're like, wait, that's Ms. Yvonne from pee Wee's Playhouse. And, yeah, there was no other choice. And to paint for the listeners or watches a clearer picture of this funeral service. And the theme was a luau and everyone wore Hawaiian shirts. And what a way to go.
C
I mean, you know, so much humor.
D
It sums her up and she was just the best.
A
It's such a. I mean, if you really don't want people to be sad at your funeral, I do think, like, baking in a way. Like, again, because if it's a luau, you know, they weren't. They would. That's what they wanted. They would have been really bummed if you were. Yeah.
D
You don't want to be caught crying in a Hawaiian shirt.
A
They'll send you out of the luau.
D
Exactly. They'll kick you right out of the luau.
A
And Mary Elizabeth, of. Of. You obviously have a large body of work. You're working the diaper money.
C
I'm ready for it to come out on the. On the podcast.
A
I know. I'm very excited, too, because it's maybe the one I think about the most. But of course, you're in the. I. You know, it was very funny to me. Like, that's that thing about, like, when you know people for 20 years like, that they all of a sudden, like, these guys who made, like, I'm on a boat literally made a song about diaper money, and, like, I can't even sack it. Like, so. It's so dirty, I can't even say it.
C
And wife parts.
A
Yeah, and wife parts.
C
Yeah. But so fun to do. I remember just being like, yeah, what a random ask. I think I had done an episode of Brooklyn Nine Nine with Andy, where I played, like, a medical examiner who was into sex with corpses. Like, dudes pretending to be corpses, which, like, all of our God kids are watching now because they're like, you know, tweens, and they're like, oh, I'm watching Brooklyn Nine Nine. And I'm like, maybe don't watch episode four or whatever when they were figuring it out.
A
Yeah. What is. So what about how old your son's, like, at the age where he can probably watch anything now, right?
D
Yeah, pretty much.
C
Actually. He just. He just went to Vidiot's. He just, like, met up with a friend in Eagle Rock, walked down to Vidiot's, just the two of them, and went to go see sixth sense and. Cause he's 13. He didn't know the twist.
B
Great.
D
Yeah. He didn't know the movie fucked him up.
C
He was really upset.
A
Yeah.
D
Like, he's not a scary movie guy. His buddy is that he went with, but he's not a big scary movie guy. He is a World War II movie guy. All of a sudden, like, he's. He is your father's grandchild for sure.
A
Has that been spoiled for him? If People spoiled World War II for him.
C
No idea.
A
My son is 9, and he started reading these graphic novels called, like, Nathan Hale's Hazardous Tales or something. And it's the speed in which he.
B
Knows more about World War I than I do.
A
Like, they just. Like, he goes, I feel bad for the Belgians. I'm like, I think you're saying Belgians. He's like, oh, my God, you know so much more than me. And then he starts talking about. I'm like, no, I only know how to pronounce Belgium.
D
Yeah. It's funny how little we. I feel like our generation has retained about World War I, which is not nearly as good as the sequel. The sequel was. Had all the hits. You know, even they.
A
I mean, again, like, 1917 was, like, a great World War I movie, but it all. I didn't teach me a thing about World War I.
B
It just taught me it was in one shot. It was in one continuous shot.
C
Beautiful shot.
A
Well, they only had one camera back then.
D
Exactly. Exactly. And one roll of film.
C
Just zoom in on this sad letter from your wife.
A
All right. Do you guys both identify as New Englanders?
D
No, not her.
C
I'm from Mississippi.
B
Yeah.
A
Oh, I misread it. I thought. It's hilarious how I misread it. So, like. So in Mississippi, you don't consider that New England?
D
You don't consider Mississippi New England?
A
I also. I know as much about states as I do about World War.
C
Oh, wait a minute.
B
So where.
A
So tell us about where in Mississippi you're from. Not that I know anything specific about Mississippi.
C
From a small town called Laurel.
A
Okay.
C
It's actually where Parker Posey went to high school.
A
Wow.
C
So, like, growing up, there were, like, pictures of Parker Posey all over the walls of, like, the drama department. So it felt very like, oh, this is like, a real thing. Like, this is a path. This can. You can be an actor.
B
Yeah.
C
And now there's an HGTV show called Hometown. That is my hometown. So whenever it's on, I watch it, and I'm like, it's my guidance counselor. It's my guidance counselor. And, you know, Charlie's like, you've worked with, like, Owen Wilson. Why are you.
D
Every time we watch tv, you see somebody we know, you know? But. But there is something about seeing someone who is not an actor on tv.
C
Why is my guidance counselor from junior high on television?
D
Yeah, that's the guy. The feed store.
A
I will say, there's. That. There's a documentary called the War Room about the Clinton campaign. Like, and it's basically about, like, James Carville and George Stephanopoulos, but we're from, you know, Bedford, New Hampshire. And, like, the first shot of this 1992 documentary is, like, a street we used to drive down going to school. And I had the same thing. I'm like, oh, my God, there it is. I mean, like, I. And it's just so funny to, like, be in show business and still think, like, it's the craziest thing in the world like, when a thing, you know is on tv.
C
Because. Why? Why that.
A
Yeah.
C
Shouldn't be there.
D
I find that with it. With the Internet. I saw a crazy. Just on the Internet, a fight that broke out between, like, cops and people in a wedding party. And it was in Newport, Rhode Island. And I'm like, oh, I know that. I know that street.
C
But none of the people.
D
None of the people. Thank God.
B
We. Our father traveled a lot for business growing up. And then anytime you'd watch a movie that had any international component or, like, you know, a city, like, they'd be down some street in San Francisco, and our dad would always just go, I've been there.
A
Yeah, I've been there.
C
What's your reaction to that?
B
Like, I mean, initially it was sort of like, whoa. And then I think it got old.
A
The two things he liked to say to take us out of the joy of watching a movie was, I've been there. And I knew it. He said about it. I knew it. He definitely. I'm glad your son didn't see Sixth Sense with our dad. Cause he would have. He would have. I knewed it so hard in front of you.
C
I knew it. Yeah.
A
Did you. Why is there an HGTV show that takes place in your hometown? Is there something unique about it?
C
No, it's just like, a beautiful old little town and two people who grew up there, they're sort of like the Joanna Gaines and Joanna Gaines husband. Chip.
B
Yeah, that's what it is.
C
Chip and Joanna. Yeah. And it's crazy. My parents are like Mary Elizabeth. People are in their Winnebagoes. They drove from Canada to come to Laurel. And I'm like, that's. That is fucking weird. Why? There's nothing there. There's not like. I mean, there's a cute museum, like, a beautiful museum.
A
Did you have. Did you have the accent as a kid? Because it sounds like your parents do certainly.
D
Oh, yeah.
C
They really do, don't they, Charlie? Yeah, Charlie will get into it, too. Like, he doesn't necessarily do the accent accent, but he gets into the cadence. Like, past.
D
I realize I'm going too fast. I gotta slow down. But the first time I met your mom, she was reading a magazine, and I asked her what she was reading, and I could have sworn she was saying she was reading Pitbull magazine. I'm like, what is Pitbull mag? Your mom's reading about Pit bull.
C
She was excited. She saw you. Did she see you in Pitbull?
D
Yeah, but she was talking about People magazine. But I. I could have sworn she was saying Pit Bull magazine. I was like, what is.
A
And you're like, I wasn't. I haven't done. Haven't even interacted with a Pitbull. Why am I in that?
C
I don't want to be in the magazine.
A
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B
Yeah, Sufi?
A
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B
Yeah, here, too.
A
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B
Yeah. I mean, they've got the kind of fall staples you'll actually want to wear on repeat. Like 100% Mongolian cashmere from just $60. Classic fit denim, real leather and wool outerwear that looks sharp and holds up.
A
I've got my eye on their suede trucker jacket. And then my wife said, put your eyes somewhere else. You're not cool enough for that. But for those of you who can pull it off, it's perfect for layering. It just looks really casual but also put together.
B
Yeah. I've still been leaning on my Quint's gray cashmere sweater. Wore it out to a dinner party the other night and was saying goodbye to some people and hugs all around. And two people were like, oh, this is so soft. You're so soft. And it wasn't me. It was my quint sweater.
A
Did you say when you walked in, you said. And they said, what are you wearing? Did you say I'm wearing shoes and socks and pants and quints?
B
Yeah.
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A
How. How long ago? I mean, you guys have been a couple for a long time. Like you met in la now we.
D
Met in New York City.
B
Seth. All Seth's research is pretty bad.
C
I'm just here to be like, nope, try again. Try again.
A
You know an improv. Yes. And is preferred.
D
Yes, we met in la, but we'd already known each Other.
C
We prefer the. I knew it. School of improv.
D
Yeah, I knew it. I knew it. No, I was 25. Mary Elizabeth, you were 22, right?
C
Yeah. So we've been together longer than. Not for me in my time on this earth.
A
When did you first go to Mississippi, Charlie?
D
This is great because this is like straight out of like a Ben Stiller movie. Like, like I, I went and I visited her family probably a year into dating each other, right? Something like. Yeah, I'd met. No, that I'd met your mom because she was out in California reading Pitbull magazine. But I hadn't met your father yet and he was a dentist. And I got to your house in Mississippi and they said, hey, you know, Steve's at the office.
C
But like, like, when's the last time you had a dental cleaning? Yeah, they're like 15 years ago.
D
Well, yeah, no, they're like, you know, do you want like a free cleaning or something? I was like, oh yeah, sure. I don't know what the heck. And I, I'd been living, you know, in New York as a young man. I, you know, I had a dentist, but I kind of like was like slacking on going regularly. I was smoking, you know, like, and I'd forgotten that they don't just clean your teeth, but they also like check them for cavities, right? So, so I, so they clean my teeth and then they're like, by the way, you've got like 10 cavities. And I'm like, oh, that's news. And they're like, but we'll just, if you want, we'll just take care of him here like right away. So the day I met her father, he drilled my face for like two hours. Like he gave me gas, you know, and it's like, so you're dating my daughter? Like, you know, but it was, I was sweating. I was, I honestly was having the thought of like, what am I doing in southern Mississippi getting my face drilled by this man. Like, I'm not sure this relationship is going to last.
A
Mary Elizabeth, do you think he was wondering what we you doing? Like you go to the big city and bring back like a full, like just a rotting tooth.
C
Just a rotten man.
A
Yeah.
B
Like his first impressions going can have been great from your father's perspective.
D
A sugar eating Yankee.
C
That was not fun. But you did also get to shoot guns for the first time, so.
D
Yeah, we did. Then we went in the woods and shot things.
B
What were you shooting at? Like cans and whatnot. Or squirrels?
C
A log? No, never. Living Things.
B
Okay.
D
I was so bad at it that I took aim at a leaf in a lake and I pulled the trigger and I heard the bullet just rattle through the woods across the lake. Not only did I not hit the leaf, I missed the entire lake. And I could have killed like a hiker, you know.
B
Was it like a long gun? Was it a shotgun or a rifle or something? Did you have to hold it close to your face?
C
Yeah.
D
Like a.22 rifle.
B
Yeah.
D
Gun for a child.
B
Because we, Seth and I have shot very, very rarely. But that kickback. Yeah. It's so real.
D
Yeah. Did you guys. Because New Hampshire is like the Mississippi of New England.
A
It is, but we were. We were not. We were. We did not embrace that part of it. But it is like, funny to. You know, we really did grow up not in a liberal bubble, like, you.
D
Know what I mean?
A
I think the way people think, it's totally its own thing. And it's kind of a lovely place to grow up because I do feel like I was like, oh, no. That kind of was like a good. I feel like we grew up with like people all over the spectrum, which is a rare thing to do, and like also have good neighbors that you like and enjoy talking to. It feels like a baby.
D
Were there a lot of guns around or no?
A
I don't think we saw a lot of guns. I think less so.
D
I don't see any.
B
In Rhode island we didn't see a lot of guns. But I was just home and my mom and I went to go play nine holes of golf at this course that's like 15 minutes from our house. I never knew it was there. And it was this lovely. Only a nine hole course. And we went out and I was thinking how nice it was. And then all of a sudden all the gunfire from some nearby gun range started going off and it was like, oh, okay. Well, this is, you know, this sort of cuts into the peaceful tranquility of this neighborhood that I was like, oh, this is a great little town to live in.
A
And.
B
Yeah, when you're near a gun range.
C
Just pursuing their sport.
D
Yeah.
C
My church in Mississippi separated. So, like we left the church. Some people stayed. So our church moved to the gun range because that was where there was open space. So I went to church at the gun range every Sunday. And then when the gun range wouldn't let us go there anymore, we moved to the catfish shack.
B
Wow.
D
There's gotta have been a lot of people at that church that were like, damn, I wish I was at the gun range.
C
Warm Choice.
B
Would they withhold firing during services?
C
Yeah, yeah. We set up our folding chairs. Yeah.
A
Why does a church split?
C
Like, I think just like, maybe differences in. I don't how. How they want the day to day run. I don't know.
A
Right, right, right. It might be like more business side stuff.
C
Business side? I don't know. I mean, I was a child, so. But I assume that's like.
D
Yeah, it's just the scheduling of the bingo nights.
B
It wasn't full schism. It was just like. Yeah. Just minor disagreements.
C
Yeah. We're still going to be Presbyterians. We're just gonna do it at the gun range.
B
And so did you have an accent, Mary Elizabeth, that you.
C
I did.
B
Okay. And you have a sister as well?
C
Yeah, I have a sister who lives in Dallas. I went to school at SMU in Dallas to study theater. Cause my parents told me I had to stay below the Mason Dixon line and on the east side of Texas if I wanted help with school.
A
So there was a proximity rule to get the funding.
C
Yes.
A
Okay.
C
Yeah. And Charlie, like, I remember when we met, he was like, but like, if you, like, why didn't you just like, apply to NYU without them knowing? And I'm like, there wasn't like the Internet. I didn't even really know that there was an nyu.
D
Yeah.
C
I just wasn't tapped in. In that way.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. I would just remember getting like. I still to this day know about certain colleges because we got like brochures.
B
Sent to our house.
A
You know, like, they didn't do. You were graduating Beaver College? Yeah, like, Beaver College, Like Manhattan College. Like, these ones where, you know, I'm like, they really think they were like, I think if we don't send out these brochures.
B
Yeah, yeah.
D
The ones that were handled by the mailers.
A
Y.
D
Like, we're gonna. We're gonna go.
A
They're like, we need. We need a new science professor. Is like, we gotta send out these mailers. We're pouring that money right into these mailers.
C
Start from the ground up, train them.
A
SMU has a good theater program, though. If I'm.
C
It was. It was great. There's a lot of, like, working actors from there. And I'm super glad that I went there. I don't know that I think it's right that I should not have been released. Just wild into New York City at 18 from Mississippi.
B
I want to say we just had Brian Baumgartner on, and I think he went to SMU as well. That feels like where he is.
C
I don't know.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah, it does.
C
From there.
B
Dad was a teacher at Emory, and he was like, they don't have the theater school that I wanted to go to. And I think he went to smu. I think it's hailed as a good theater school.
C
Yeah. Yeah, it was good. I met a lot of great people there. In fact, some people left and went to Chicago and started the house theater. Did you know the house theater?
A
I don't think I knew the house.
B
Yeah, yeah.
C
Cause it was sort of at the time, like, New York, L.A. chicago.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was it for us. Did you. Were you and your sister close?
C
Yeah, we're close. I mean, she's three years younger than I am.
A
Okay, gotcha.
C
Yeah.
A
And were you, like, what. Did. Were you the sort of family that would take trips, or did you sort of stick around Mississippi?
C
We did. I mean, my parents definitely preferred to stay, like, in the United States. Cause, like, the world is scary, you know? Like, we went to Jamaica once, and it was like, don't even. Don't. Don't even look out of the car on the drive on the way to, like, sandals or wherever.
A
You're so funny when people want to take a vacation. And so. And there's a great part of it is, like, just instilling fear in your children about where you're going.
C
You go straight to the resort. You don't even look out the window. Someone will grab you. My dad was surely organic marijuana. Yeah, definitely marijuana. But, yeah, we actually. We had a beach house in Navarre, Florida, which was near Pensacola. So I grew up going to, like, the Redneck Riviera, as we call it, like, North Florida. And Charlie and I still go there. We go there every summer and rent a condo. We do it right. Like, our whole family goes, but we all rent our own condos, so we can still love each other.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
From a distance.
B
Did you own the beach house in Navarre?
C
My grandfather built it. It was like, the third one that was built on that beach. And then it got. Charlie came with me a few times, and then we lost it in Hurricane Ivan.
B
Oh, wow.
C
Before Katrina. Yeah, like, a couple years.
D
I think it was right after Katrina. Yeah, right after Katrina. Took it down to the studs.
A
Wow. Yeah. And then desert. Did you rebuild on that land or is it.
C
No, we didn't. Yeah, it was like, too many cousins owned it by that point. And, like, people don't speak to each other and there's bad blood, and we're like, this really.
A
This really speaks to why you get your own Condo.
C
Yeah, exactly.
D
That's why.
C
So we could just glower at each other across the condo, like.
A
So do you go every year to Navarro?
C
Pretty. We go to Destiny.
A
Oh, Destin. Okay, gotcha.
C
Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. We try to do summertime in Florida and then in Rhode island because Charlie grew up in a beach town.
A
How was beach town upbringing? Do you feel like you appreciated that you were in a place that people, like, vacationed?
D
Yeah, it was ideal. You know, I mean, I guess when you're little. Little whatever, you don't think anything about it. There's a nice beach in town. But then when you get to be like a teenager, you know, you see the same people in your small town, but then suddenly there's an influx of, you know, new, interesting and beautiful people, and it's exciting and, you know, I mean, I never talked to any of them, didn't get to know any of them, but.
C
And I watched them, but I saw.
D
Them and I studied them.
B
What town was it?
D
I grew up in Middletown, which is right next to Newport, Rhode Island. You know, Newport's super touristy. Yeah, it's. And it's a similar energy to Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard. They feel very similar. You know, old cobblestone streets and interesting restaurants and tons of bars and. But then the beaches are beautiful, and then I just have all my local. Local friends.
B
So did you.
A
Did you have. Did you ever have a summer job where you were serving tourists?
D
I had a job for one day at Via Via Pizza, but by the end of the day, you know, they were like. They were like, I just goofed everything up. Like, I didn't know how to do the tax on the check. And they were like, I didn't bring my own pen. And I just. Like, everything was wrong. And so they were like, I. You know, at the end of the day, they're like. I was like, so when do I come back? They're like, we got your number.
B
Right?
D
Like, but I did have one really funny job in Newport, Rhode island, where I was a janitor at a gym right there on, like, the main street of Newport called Waterfront Fitness. And I guess when Arnold Schwarzenegger was doing the movie True Lies, which they shot in one of the mansions down there, he was training in the gym. So there are all sorts of, like, pictures of him in the gym that I used to have to, like, spray down and polish and. And, yeah, that was a funny gig, but, like, it was my favorite gig because the guy paid me under the table and I sort of made my Own hours. And you know, it wasn't, it wasn't half bad, you know. And I gotta say, the women's room, far more disgusting than the men's.
C
Disgusting.
D
No way.
A
Yeah.
B
Was that because you refused to clean it?
A
I, by the way, I just like that the one, the one similarity so far of your upbringing is that Mary Elizabeth was in a room full of Parker Posey pictures and you were in one full of Arnold Schwarzenegger pictures.
D
That's exactly right.
A
You were in towns where if one person came through, they just like decked the walls.
D
Yeah, exactly.
C
And we were like, we gotta get out of here. Gotta get out of here.
A
I feel like I had a summer job or just like that. Every now and then I'll drive by a very nondescript office park and I'll be like, oh, that would have been such a great place to work as a teenager. Just like, there's just a parking. And you just know they got a soda machine. That's all I wanted when I was a kid was just to go to a place where, I don't know, there was a desk.
C
Yeah, I worked at the ymca. I taught gymnastics. That was my job. Like, I taught gymnastics to kids, which was a good job. Cause it always got paid more than minimum wage, you know, and kind of do it anywhere. But I also worked the desk at the ymca and it was very like air conditioning, front facing, meeting people, you know.
A
Yeah, yeah. I was talking to my boys about I wanted to get like a temporary tennis net, you know, just to like put in like the driveway, just to like have them hit balls. And I. So I was, I'm very excited about this idea. And I'm like, I'm gonna get a temporary tent. And they were like, great. So it'll be like a tennis, It'll be like a tennis club. And like, will we build a structure? And I'm like, but there's not gonna be a structure. We're just gonna put a net in the driveway. And they're like, but there'll be a table, right? Like, for us to like charge people. I'm like, this isn't a business. All. They don't care about the tennis at all. They're immediately like, and will there be memberships or will people pay each time? I'm like, nobody's coming.
B
I'm gonna spend $40 on Amazon for this net. That's what's happening.
C
Yeah, I mean, I think they could get some, some cute little kid to work the front desk for them.
D
And yeah, don't hold Them back.
C
I mean, just have a good source of lemonade income.
A
I know at this end of the day, like, I'm like, what? Like tennis? They're not going to be professional tennis players, but they could run a business. I should let them. I should let them lean into that part.
D
They already are learning how to discriminate. Like, who's going to be in this club?
A
Like, they go, we don't know who's in yet, but we have a list of our friends we don't want invited.
B
We know who. So, Mary Elizabeth, when you used to go to your grandfather, this place that your grandfather built in Florida, was it a lot of extended family would sort of convene there at the same time or was it just your family going down there? Was it sort of one at a time?
C
It was a lot of, a lot of family. Like my, my mom's cousin was kind of like her sister. They were super close. So her, my aunt has a couple kids and they would always come. So yeah, it was like, it was always packed. It was like four bedrooms with like a big living area in the middle and would be like a full family in each bedroom, you know, way too many.
B
So you wouldn't have like kids would like pile into one room. It was. You were with your family in a.
C
Bed, you're with your family and on the floor, like just on a. One blanket on the floor with maybe a pillow if you were lucky. Which is so funny because I don't think our kid has ever really slept like that. Maybe the last couple sleepovers he had, we like piled a bunch of stuff on the floor, but. But he's always had like his own feather mattress and whatever hotel suite that we stay in. Fold out bed. Didn't you guys, like, your parents were like, there's extra towels, so I guess you each get one.
B
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
C
Good luck. Good night. Yeah.
A
Yeah, my kids are so. I mean, the other night my son walked into our room and said he needed one of my pillows. Cause he's like, I'm just mine or not. And I'm like, oh my God.
C
Were you though or were you immediately like, oh my God, yes, whatever. You need to go to sleep 100%.
A
I've literally never said no to him.
B
And then what were. How long would you go down to Florida? Was it like a full summer? Just a couple weeks.
C
And then, yeah, we'd go like weeks, like, you know, piling the like wood paneled minivan like in the back at night listening to like, I remember listening to Man Eater. That song. Whoa, here she comes. And being like, what, what is this? Like, whatever it is, I want to grow up to be that. I don't want to be eaten, obviously. Yeah. I like Motown music. Like, it's the music. It's the, like the, like just gnarly. Probably gonna give me skin cancer sunburns that we used to get. You know, you put your zinc on, like the neon colored zinc.
A
Was your family. Did your parents have like a sort of easygoing vibe on vacation where they like, did they road trip well together?
C
I mean, as much as my parents could be laid back, I think. Yeah, they don't. Laid back isn't really in their wheelhouse, right, Charlie?
D
Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine. No, like, not like, I mean, once they, like once your dad gets his feet in the sand, sure. Yeah. But like, maybe getting to where you had to go, I can't imagine being too easy going.
C
Yeah.
A
Were you beach people?
B
Was that sort of the order of the day as you'd spend every day out on the beach and.
C
Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. And I still feel like a beach. Like if someone's like, do you want to go to the desert? I'm like, maybe like once a year.
B
Yeah.
C
To go to like Pappy and Harriet's or something. But I'm not, I'm a beach person. If I get like a break and Charlie is too, I feel like, so.
D
Oh, for sure.
B
Yeah.
C
That's good.
D
Like to be on a beach.
C
We both have that. Yeah.
A
Did you guys travel growing up? Charlie.
D
So here's a fun fact. So in second grade we took a very exotic trip to France and Germany.
A
Okay, that's young to take a big trip like that.
D
Yes. My sister would have been in the fourth grade, something like that. And we stayed at my parents friend's house, people they knew through college, and we visited their other friends in Germany and you know, we saw Notre Dame and the Louvre and all this and very, very hoity toity fancy ish trip. You flew on twa, I think, like, that's how old I am. And then I did not go on an airplane again until I got flown by Fox to test for Weird Henry when I was 24 years old. So I, I went on a plane in second grade and like went on a plane as an adult man looking out the window be like, wow, we're up in the sky. And now I. Now I'm on a plane 20 times a year. But yeah.
C
Wait, did you test for Weird Henry or were you like weird Friendry No, I was.
D
I was gonna be weird Henry. Yeah. And then we did that test, and they were like, you know what? Let's just scrap the show. And then. And then, by the way, two weeks later, I was on another plane testing for a show called Mather House, and that was like a college comedy. And on that plane, I met a guy Formerly named Rob McElhenny.
A
Oh, my God.
D
Yeah, he changed his name to Rob Mac. But we met on that flight and. And that also got canceled as soon as we did the audition.
B
Was he testing for it as well?
D
We were testing for the same role, and Rob was furious that it got canceled. And I was like, I think this is just what happens, you know? But so I. I did not go anywhere except, like, driving from Rhode island to Philadelphia to see my dad's family. You know, every Christmas or sometimes fourth of July, a six hour drive that took my parents a good ten and a half or eleven, seven hours because they like to keep it under the speed limit.
B
Would you make a lot of pit stops on that. On that drive?
D
A lot of pit stops. A lot of real slow driving.
B
Yeah.
C
Any music? Because your parents didn't opt to have the tape player installed in the car. Right. Because they didn't want to pay extra credit.
D
My parents were so thrifty that they found a way to get the car company to remove the radio and say. And save like, an extra, what, 25 bucks? Like, on no radio. So.
A
But they were both music teachers, right?
D
Yeah, exactly.
A
And they were just like. But they were like, that's not important for. That's work stuff. Music's work. We've had enough of it.
C
I feel like we've had enough music.
A
Yeah.
D
We could talk about music theory or Beethoven's life, but we are not gonna listen to rock and roll.
C
Yeah.
D
So I had a little. There was a little plastic plate on the car that said Honda, where the radio goes.
A
That's so funny. What a crazy way to say it. And your sibling is how. What's the difference between you and your sister?
D
She is three years older than me.
A
Okay, gotcha. So did you really. So you met Rob on a plane?
D
I did.
A
Were you guys sitting next to each other?
D
I don't think we were. And I don't exactly remember that moment it happened. I think I spied him in the airport being like, that looks like an actor being flown out to test, you know, and then maybe spoke to him when we got off the plane. And we're looking for, like, a car to take us to the hotel. And I think we were probably like paired together in the same car, you know, save a couple bucks. But yeah, I don't. I don't remember the exact details, but yeah, we met on that. On that trip and that.
A
Is that with a friendship again? Yeah, yeah.
D
Hit it off immediately. Yeah.
A
Was the Philly. Was your parents. Your dad being from Philly, was that one of the early connections? Cause that seems to be a big part of his Persona.
D
It must have come up, I'm sure. Yeah, it certainly was a big part of, like making this show in Philly where. Because originally when we made that pilot, we. We were all playing actors in la and that's why we were so self absorbed. And that was where the humor was coming from. And when we sold it to fx, they said, you know, there's a lot of shows about the industry at the time. There was the Comeback with Lisa Kudrow and there was. I was in a couple other ones, but. And we were trying to figure out an excuse of like, why these people are terrible. People were like, oh, maybe we'll make them lawyers or something. And then we're like, oh, actually it's kind of funnier if there's no excuse. Like, they're just really like. And we thought we'd set it in an underdog city. And Rob, obviously was so connected to Philly, and I felt pretty connected to it myself, going there twice a year my whole life. So, yeah, that's why we chose Philly.
A
By the way, what a unique story in that a network had a really good note. You know what I mean?
D
You know, I will say, you know, as much as you hate to give these guys credit. No, that was John Langraff.
A
So a guy who's known for giving.
B
A lot of good notes.
A
Yeah.
D
There's a reason that they've had so many good shows and that he's still running the place and that they've had such a good run that we've been on for 20 years. Is that, you know, that guy is, you know, pretty, pretty smart.
A
I remember, you know, Josh and I obviously opposite coast for over, you know, 20 years now. And I sometimes I will. Just when we visited each other back in the day when I would come visit you, like, we mostly just watch tv. And I remember watching the entire first season, which was just six episodes, right?
D
Yeah, seven episodes.
A
Seven episodes. And. And it was a re. It was like just so. In that way that I remember because so much of our upbringing was sitting with our parents and like.
B
And like.
A
So your Seinfeld like, we watched so much TV together as a social interaction. And that was such an exciting week to be like, holy moly.
B
This is.
A
I'm so excited. This kind of thing is a show.
D
Oh, that's great. I'm glad that it grabbed you. You know, I never know that the early ones, but yeah, it's such a cool thing. I have a moment, had a moment last year, going onto the set and being in that bar and being like, like, oh, this set now is, I don't know, part of TV history. Like the cheer set is.
A
Yeah.
D
Just what an exciting thing to like have that have happened. It's crazy.
A
It's nuts.
C
And like a 20 year container, you know, like we're like, oh, what did. We got married right after the first season, right when we were going into the second season. So like postponed our honeymoon to go shoot like the second season. And so exciting to get a second season of a television show. And Charlie was writing the first season on like a yellow legal pad. And then at our beach house in Florida and then driving across the bridge to the FedEx Kinko's to use the fact machine.
A
Yeah.
C
Because we weren't like, we didn't have computers, certainly not like wifi.
D
And I didn't have a computer.
A
I spent so much time at FedEx ginkgos in the early part of my comedy career.
B
Well, I will also say of Seth now, I mean, he's, you know, he's got his office and his show, but he. There is not a printer at Seth's apartment, nor has there ever been.
A
Yeah.
B
And I used to go to some Kinkos. I would want to like print a boarding pass back when you would have to print a boarding pass. And I was at my brother's apartment in New York City, who was on Saturday Night Live. And I would have to go to a Kinko's to go print my boarding pass because he didn't have a printer.
C
That's amazing.
B
He's a writer, my boy.
A
We have a printer now, but we have a printer now because my wife made sure we had a printer. But like, I think with the kids.
D
With school, you find that you have to print out something every now and then. Some.
A
Constantly. Yeah, just. Yeah. And also I. I actually think we just have a printer. So the kids can constantly go and just take out printer paper and just use it. Like, use it for sure.
C
For the tennis club.
A
Yeah, exactly.
D
They gotta be right for the flyers around town.
A
That's not important. So speaking of the first season, like, it was, of course, the first Time I saw you, Mary Elizabeth was on that show. And so it was so delightful to then find out that you guys were a couple because the amount that you just found Charlie's character detestable.
D
Yeah, yeah.
C
The most fun I recommend for any relationship.
A
I truly, I actually thought, like, oh, my God, this is so healthy that they wrote this right now.
C
It's funny too, because last night we went. We got to go to the Frankenstein premiere because Charlie had done Pacific Rim with Guillermo years ago and someone who was. How old do you think that girl was? 16, 17, maybe?
D
No idea.
C
I've been watching your show since I was 7 years old. My dad's been showing it to me. And I was like, tell your dad that's inappropriate. And she was like, I will. He's Osgood Perkins. And I was like, tell Osgood Perkins that that was inappropriate to show this. But then they were like, can we take pictures with you? And then someone else walked up and was like, wait, are you guys married?
A
So fun.
C
So it's very fun that, like, people are still.
D
Oh, really?
C
Still putting it together, figuring it out.
D
Yeah.
B
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Here we go.
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I have a question about the trip, Charlie. The second grade trip trip. When you. When that trip was over, did you know that that was the last one? Like, did. Was there an expectation of, like, we're gonna do this every year now?
D
Yeah, I think, like, with it, for a child, you know, everything is new. So if you are a family who goes on a trip, you're like, oh, I guess we're trip people, right? I mean, we. I mean, I certainly had the sense that it was special, that it was an event, that we were doing a special thing, but. But I had no awareness that it was going to be the last time that we were all ever. By the way, I have never been on an airplane with my parents since then.
A
Wow. Wow.
D
Yeah. Not once, nor do I care to be, but I love it. But we don't need to fly all over the place. I'll go see them.
A
Yeah.
C
They're not big travelers.
B
No. Mary Elizabeth, did you have. Other than your Grandfather who built this place in Florida. Where were the other grandparents from? Would you go visit them? Was that sort of.
C
Yeah, My mom's family was from Louisiana, so we would just drive to, like, Baton Rouge for every Christmas or Easter. And, like, my grandmother had a house like, that she had grown up in their, like, shotgun shack, and then it, like, burned down. And so they built, like, a family house in Port Hudson, Louisiana. So nothing, like. Nothing fancy, you know?
B
Yeah, but Baton Rouge is a good town. Like, was that fun going there?
C
Is it?
B
I don't know.
A
I. I've had.
B
I've had fun there.
C
Yeah. I mean, you know, when you grow up going to visit your family places, you're just like, I know this one suburb, like, where my cousins live. And, yeah, like, we catch crawfish in the ditch, like, put, like, gum on, like, a little piece of floss and, like, try to cat catch catfish.
A
I don't even know cool things about my own hometown, like, because we would, like, we just spent so much of our life was, like, in our house. Like, we just, like, hung out. So people would be like, hey, I'm going to New Hampshire. Like, what should I do? I'm like, I don't know. Like, I don't.
B
Like, yeah, you go to the Robert Frost house. We've never been, but you could go. It's there.
C
Yeah. Yeah.
A
I know.
C
It's so strange, too, to grow, to raise our son here. You know, we live in a. A neighborhood that's nice, but, like, everyone has a gate, so, like, you don't know your neighbors. It's super hilly, so you're not, like, out on your bike because it's not safe. Like, people drive like maniacs, and it's just. That's one of the things I feel like we talk about most as parents. Like, we just really lament him not having that freedom that we had that was like, yeah, I don't. I don't care where you go. Just go away from me. Like, your parents say, like, just get out. Get out of my house.
B
You know?
C
And he just doesn't get that.
B
I imagine sort of a Rhode island coastal town is a pretty good place to bike around with your buddies. Charlie.
D
I mean, I was the biggest latchkey kid. Like, I feel like from the age of, like, six or seven, like, really young, just being like, see ya. I'm out in the neighborhood and getting into whatever, and there's kids everywhere, and I was still really close with a bunch of them. And I mean, we would just go wherever. I would take my Bike in anywhere, you know, all down on the edge of the town. And we would do crazy, like get in the back of my friend's dad's pickup truck and go over the bridge and hide when we went through the toll booth because it was illegal. It was just very kind of like loose and free, see. Although this last summer I. We were back in Rhode island and I brought Russell to my friend's house who lived at the bottom of my street.
B
Russell's your son?
D
Yeah, sorry. Russell's my son and my. My friend's house. And they have kids now sort of his age. And it was my friend's younger brother who had kids, but still. And I threw him in that mix and they were all still kind of running around in the streets at night. And they don't all live there, but they'll come back for the summer, you.
C
Know, kick the can and capture.
D
Yeah, all sorts of.
B
Yeah.
D
I mean, we would, like, dress in black and like, try to like, capture each other and like, run through people's yards. At an age where it got like, too old to be doing it, like where they might be frightened if they saw us in their yard, like, that's a man hiding in my bushes. But, yeah, it was pretty idyllic.
A
I mean, even there was like the. I remember in our high school years, like when cops would come to parties, you would literally just like run into the woods and like, work your way home. Yeah, Just like. Yeah.
D
I mean, we had a spot down the my road where in the wintertime we would chuck snowballs at cars or in the summertime, water balloons. And the goal was to get chased by the cops because we knew we knew the best escape paths, you know, like, okay. And ideally the driver or the cops or someone's going to chase us. Like, it wasn't so much about the hitting the car, although there was a thrill in that, but it was about the chase. It was like, we're going to get away.
B
Yeah. I mean, it certainly often got away. It dials up the excitement to a great degree.
A
To have it is like the power as a kid to make an adult run is really something when you think about it.
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
An adult that wasn't planning on running, so they're not dressed for it.
D
It's like, dude, not only are you gonna have to run, you're gonna have to navigate some dark back little paths here. You're gonna hop a few fences. You're gonna have to, like, go through a rickety shed.
A
Like how mad you must be when you Realize you're not gonna catch the kids. Oh my God.
D
Yeah.
A
He's just like, I already climbed over one fence and you come home and you got covered in leaves and your wife's like, what was. You're like, I want to talk about it.
D
Yeah, that's what you get for smoking, you turkey.
C
It would take a lot for me to chase a kid. I think, like, as a cop, I feel like I just like, eh, meh.
A
Yeah.
C
So tired.
B
You hit your little siren thing and just set him off running and be like, that's good enough.
C
Hire some other kids to come chase those kids for me. Like, you go, go, go get them.
B
Would you. Would you ever go to sort of the more touristy places? Was there like a boardwalk? Was there an arcade where there. Was there taffy?
D
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, also there are the Gilded age mansions, you know, like the breakers and Rose Cliff, I think, and. And you would, you know, every now and then I would be either on a school tour of them or I would be with my parents. You know, some friends came in town and they wanted to see them and we would all go. So it got to the point where I, like, knew the tour so well that like, later in life when I went, I'm walking through the breakers and the tour guide saying, and now I bet nobody knows what these three different faucets are for in. In this beautiful tub. One is for hot water, one's for cold water. Who can guess that they're salt?
A
Yes.
D
Very good. They had a tub of salt water. And then we go in the other room and she'd be like, now this is a funny little chair. Who thinks they know what this chair is? I'm like, that's a jockey weighing chair. I was like, no, it's a.
A
Yes, it is.
D
How do you know that? You know, it was great.
A
Did you. When does Russell get excited to go back to your hometowns? Because it sounds like you take them every now and then.
D
I think he likes going to Rhode Island.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
C
We love the beaches in Rhode Island. He's pumped to go shoot some guns with his grandfather. When we go to Mississippi, they gave him a Red Rider BB gun for his birth.
A
Oh, wow.
B
It's right out of the gate.
C
Yeah, right out of the gate. Straight out.
B
How old was he the first time he fired it?
C
He hasn't fired it ever. It's been at my parents house. The first time we went back to visit, he was like one and a half. And I. My mom met us at the door and she Was like, I'm so. I'm so excited y' all are here. I've baby proofed the whole house. I have put. I've covered every plug. The stairs are. That he can't get in the stairs. He can't open any of the cabinets. Everything is baby proofed. And I was like, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I walked into the kitchen and I was like, except for the gun. Except for the gun that's leaning against the door in the kitchen. Why is there a gun in the kitchen?
B
What's his gun?
C
Well, it's his gun.
A
That's not a violation if it belongs to him.
C
Yeah.
B
So has Russell been admiring this gun for his 13 years and waiting with.
A
Sort of bated breath?
C
He's pretty pumped to go back and give it a try.
A
Yeah, fantastic.
D
I mean, we went a couple years ago and shotguns and he had no interest in it. But now at 13, I think it's kind of exciting. So.
B
Yeah. The World War II.
A
Have you taken. Since he's. Now we've established a World War II head. Have you taken him to Europe?
C
We haven't. You can do the Band of Brothers tour.
A
Oh, wow. Has he watched Band of Brothers? Ireland.
D
And we've taken him to Switzerland.
C
We've taken him to. Yes, we've taken him to Ireland and Switzerland. But he hasn't gotten to do like a World War II tour thing. I think he's seen Band of Brothers. He's seen Saving Private Ryan. We were flying to Hawaii and we landed and Charlie's like, what'd you watch? And I was like, moana too. What'd you watch? And he was like, some. Probably 1917.
D
It was 1917.
C
No, you ruined my story. I was like, you.
D
There we go.
C
You watched like, probably some PTA movie again. And Russell was like, I watched 1917.
D
Oh, yeah, it's better in threes.
A
You're right.
D
Sorry about that.
A
I just watched for only the second time in my life on a plane, which is not the way to see it. But I hadn't seen Saving Private Ryan since I saw it in theaters. Cause it does feel like one of those movies. Like, when are you gonna watch it again? But it was a long flight.
C
Did it make you cry?
A
It made me cry.
B
All right.
C
Yeah.
A
Another thing that was weird was just like, there's so many cameos of like. Who was like 1999ish, like, made me nostalgic for like that era of like, just like, you know. And your co star, Ted Danson. I Forgot Ted Danson is great.
D
He's great for a scene.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
And it's just like, everybody, like, it's just like, who pops up for a scene? Like, I weirdly was, like, emotional. It was like a different kind of emotion of like, Giamatti, Dennis Farina, like, just everybody makes you happy in that movie.
D
The scene that always got me in that movie is the one where Adam Goldberg, I think his name, dies where he's being stabbed. He's like, wait, wait, wait. You don't have actually. You don't have to do this. Just don't do it.
A
Yeah.
D
And it's like, I gotta do it.
A
You know, it's something because it's such good storytelling. Because, you know, he's so fast talking. You know, they just establish his character and it's like. Yeah, it's really.
B
It's really brilliant.
D
Is this Spielberg guy's gonna make it?
A
I think so. I think so. It was funny. I was on Martha's Venue this summer. It was the 50th anniversary of JAWS. And like, the amount of, like, the amount of Jaws stuff, and you're like, this is how good this movie is. The place. It's a literally, this is the place where there was a killer shark attack. And the movie's better than, like, reminding people that sharks are in the water. Water.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
It's just like. Yeah, it's like, no, we'll just constantly remind people this is where the shark was. And it's like, man.
D
Did you see the video of the shark in Block island this summer that got in the pond? Oh, my God. I mean, it was like jaw size.
A
It was like 20, and it was in a pond.
D
It got in the pond just like in the movie where there's a little channel that goes out into the ocean, then into the pond, and it was kind of poking around, and then it.
C
Was a massive shark. Yeah. And by the way, if you're Josh, you're in la. Yeah.
B
Yeah.
C
Have you seen the Jaws exhibit at the Academy museum yet?
B
Oh, no.
C
Highly recommend.
B
Oh, great. I've got. Our parents are coming out for Christmas, so I'm looking for stuff to do, so that might be.
C
I took my parents. It was great. My dad got to sit at the Godfather desk.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
You know, the Academy. I love the Academy museum. It's really. Yeah.
A
Do your parents come out to LA much?
C
My parents were just here. They travel. My mom's, like, really good at traveling. My dad a little less during sec. Football season, but got it. Yeah.
D
There's A couple of interest.
A
Ole Miss. I was gonna ask. I was gonna ask.
C
Ole Miss.
A
God love him. Have you been to an Ole Miss game?
C
My entire life. Every weekend of my life growing up. And Charlie's been a couple times. But then when we started getting more recognizable, it's hard to be in a group where everyone's intention is to get as drunk as possible.
B
Yeah.
D
Yeah.
A
Did you. Is it. I mean, again, like, you know, we went. We went to a Big Ten school. You know, the one that's the worst at football. But is it as great as it sounds to, like, go to an SEC football game?
C
Yes.
D
It's a lot of fun.
C
I highly recommend it. Go check out. Yeah. If y' all ever want to go to Ole Miss, this let me know. They'll roll out the red carpet, literally, because they set up, like, tents with chandeliers and, like, chocolate fondue stations, and, I mean, it's so fancy. People will get dressed to the nines.
A
Yeah.
C
And then get wasted and throw up on themselves. It's fantastic.
A
I remember it was specifically Ole Miss. We were. It was like, a very cold Chicago Saturday, and we were, like, just watching an Ole Miss game, and, like, everybody looked so, like, beautiful and happy, and we were like, why? What are we doing here? We were all just like, we should have gone to Ole Miss.
C
There is nothing like that Chicago cold.
A
Oh, no.
C
It's slices right through you.
D
Yeah.
A
It really is the worst kind of cold.
C
Yeah.
A
You guys, it is so wonderful to see you Both very excited. November 20th, I believe, manning the inside, season two. And very jealous that you get to see my friend Mike Schur way more than I do.
C
Mike Schur's the best.
A
He really, genuinely is the best.
B
Ted Danson might have popped into Saving Private Ryan for a scene, but I pop into one scene of man on the Inside, season two on this season.
D
Looking forward to it.
C
Oh, did I see you there, or I just saw you at Linda?
B
No, I did not see you there. I was. Yeah, I was working with Gary Cole.
C
Oh, amazing.
D
He's amazing.
B
Yeah.
C
Such a good cast.
A
It's really great. I mean, it feels like. I mean, I hope you're getting great showbiz stories every time you shut down, because it's certainly the cast to hear them from.
C
It is. Oh, my God. Every time Mary Steenburgen opens her mouth, she's like, well, no, because I was spending the night in the Lincoln Bedroom. And you're like, I'm sorry. Tell me more. You know, Incredible.
A
All right, before we let you guys go, speed Round questions. Josh is going to kick it off.
B
All right, here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational adventure?
D
Relaxing.
B
What is your favorite means of transportation?
C
Train.
D
Oh, wow. Yeah, I like to train too. Trains, man.
B
If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with?
C
I know this one because I listen to this podcast and so I've had my. My answer in my back pocket. The Sedaris. Oh, like to just go spend a week at the C section.
B
Come on. Yeah.
A
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Wow. And great stories.
B
Great stories are going to come out of that.
C
Incredible.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
D
That's really good. Okay. Okay, I should add something here. Any family? Not my family. Well, I mean, maybe I'll tool around with the Spielbergs for a little bit since we're on, you know, just. Just to. Just to pick the guy's brain. Y.
A
Absolutely.
D
How'd you do that shot?
B
They.
A
They just. They just got back to us. They don't want you to come.
C
That's his vacation. That's his vacation.
A
Why is he using a different voice?
C
Yeah, he talks like that on vacation. It's so annoying.
D
Yeah, yeah.
A
This late into the podcast, we're finding out about vacation voice.
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, this is my actual voice, and I kind of put the other one on because A little more committed. Yeah. But.
B
It'D be amazing to find out that Charlie Day has been using a.
A
Fake voice all these years cuz he thinks his normal one's too normal.
D
It's just too normal.
B
If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be?
D
My wife.
C
Oh, well said.
B
Okay.
C
Also. Also his wife.
A
Yep.
B
There you go.
A
That would be my wife's answer for sure. Yeah.
B
All right, Charlie, we're gonna start with you here. You're from Middletown, Rhode Island. If you were the head of the board of tourism for Middletown, how would you pitch that town to get people to come visit?
D
Oh, man. And I want people there.
B
Yeah.
D
Okay.
B
But you can slip up and say something and be like, oh, we need to, you know.
C
Yeah.
D
Beautiful beaches, great restaurants. Home of Charlie Day.
B
Great. Really good.
A
Obviously the gym's got pictures of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Local gym, local janitor makes good.
B
Yeah. Clean, Clean frames. Clean men's rooms. Yeah.
A
Right.
B
Women's room. Less so, not so much Mary Elizabeth. The same for Laurel, Mississippi, I would say.
C
Hey, y' all come to Laurel, touch the trees. Look at some art. You might be able to high five Parker Posey.
D
That's pretty good.
B
Excellent. And then Seth has our final questions.
A
Have you guys been to the Grand Canyon?
C
Yes, we have. We did a road trip from LA to Louisiana with our little rat terrier whose name was Arthur. And we. It was for Christmas. It was two degrees.
D
Yeah.
A
Oh, because my next question. Was it worth it?
C
I mean, I will never forget the steam coming out of our dog's butthole as he peeves.
B
It's so worth it.
D
So worth it. Very worth it. Well, there is the surreal thing of like seeing something that you've seen so many pictures of movies and like. Yeah, well, there it is.
A
The very fact that you went to this incredible thing that everybody has you have to see in your memory. Is your dog's butthole steaming.
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not just the poop, but his literal butt.
B
And the. And that upon seeing it, you were like, yeah, there it is. There it is.
A
Like a tea kettle. His butt turned into a tea kettle.
C
We were like, wow. But wow.
D
Yeah, you know, look at that.
C
Yeah.
A
You guys are the best. Thank you so much. Lovely talking about pleasure.
D
Yeah, it's great to see both your faces.
E
Mary Elizabeth from the south was news to Seth Mississippi little town called Laurel mom ring pit bull when they'd go shooting guns wouldn't shoot the squirrels Charlie's neglected teeth Mary Elizabeth's dad looked at him for free Took out his drill 10 cavities filled was a new man pronto Renek, Riviera all were under one roof but now stay in condos. When she went to church it was a gun range or the Catfish Shack. And in Baton Rouge she would catch crawfish Working at the wife AC at the check in desk Teaching little kids some gymnastics. Charlie worked at the gym after the pizza place fired him. Polished pics of bulging pecs that belonged to Arnold Dirtiest place there. Women's locker room. At least that's what we're told.
D
To.
E
Philly he would go 6 hour drive that took in 10 but no radio cause they didn't need.
A
Was like 2.
E
Below when they went to the Grand Canyon Arthur had to go But O wise demon.
Release Date: October 14, 2025
Guests: Charlie Day & Mary Elizabeth Ellis
Hosts: Seth Meyers & Josh Meyers
In this warm and funny episode, Seth and Josh Meyers welcome real-life couple and comedic talents Charlie Day and Mary Elizabeth Ellis—well-known for their roles on "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia"—to dissect their childhoods, family traditions, and memorably chaotic vacations. The conversation bounces from Southern beach trips and gun-range churches to Rhode Island adolescence, dental mishaps, and the quirks of every kind of family road trip.
Seth and Josh start by chatting about New England autumns and family bike rides ([00:00–02:00]).
Recap of Josh’s Gavin Newsom appearance on "Jimmy Kimmel Live" in Brooklyn, including the nerves and fun backstage moments ([02:20–07:03]).
"For the 3200 people in the house that night, I would guess maybe 2,000 of them definitely thought it was Gavin Newsom for the first five to ten seconds." – Seth [04:42]
Pet peeves about airplane etiquette—loud talkers vs. crying babies, and the rare successful moment when people actually wait so those with connections can deplane first ([07:28–10:09]).
"There’s an HGTV show called Hometown that is my hometown. … It's my guidance counselor! It's my guidance counselor!" – Mary Elizabeth [19:18]
"We went to church at the gun range every Sunday. And then when the gun range wouldn’t let us go there anymore, we moved to the catfish shack." – Mary Elizabeth [31:35] "Would they withhold firing during services?" – Josh (joking) [32:09]
"Women’s room, far more disgusting than the men’s." – Charlie [39:28]
“I don’t think our kid has ever slept like that… he’s always had like his own feather mattress and whatever hotel suite that we stay in…” – Mary Elizabeth [42:44]
Meeting the Parents—a Cautionary Tale: Charlie’s first visit to Mississippi involved an impromptu, marathon dental procedure by Mary Elizabeth’s father, who’s a dentist:
"So the day I met her father, he drilled my face for like two hours. I was sweating...what am I doing in southern Mississippi getting my face drilled by this man?" – Charlie [28:08]
First Time Shooting Guns: Charlie’s disastrous introduction to Southern gun culture (“I missed the entire lake. I could have killed a hiker…”) [29:41].
Ellis Family’s Southern Rules: Only shooting at inanimate targets; stories on church splits, BB guns for babies, and catfish shack gatherings.
"There was a little plastic plate on the car that said ‘Honda’ where the radio goes." – Charlie [48:15]
Freedom: Then vs. Now: Both guests discuss the hands-off approach of their childhood—latchkey kids free to roam, ride bikes, and even evade police during teenage pranks.
"We would just go wherever. I would take my bike in anywhere… and do crazy—like get in the back of my friend's dad's pickup truck and go over the bridge and hide when we went through the toll booth…" – Charlie [61:39]
Contrast with Raising Their Son: Now living in LA, their son’s community is walled, hilly, and less conducive to bike mischief. They lament the loss of that kind of autonomy for kids ([59:56–60:37]).
Ideal vacation?
Favorite transportation?
Dream family to vacation with?
"He talks like that on vacation, it's so annoying." – Mary Elizabeth (about Charlie’s hypothetical vacation voice) [74:41]
Desert island companion?
Pitch your hometown?
Have they been to the Grand Canyon?
On childhood vacations:
“It was always packed. Four bedrooms with like a big living area — a full family in each bedroom… You’re with your family and on the floor, just on one blanket… If you were lucky, maybe a pillow.” – Mary Elizabeth [42:06]
On writing "Sunny":
"Charlie was writing the first season on like a yellow legal pad…at our beach house in Florida and then driving across the bridge to the FedEx Kinko’s to use the fax machine." – Mary Elizabeth [52:33]
On local fame and role models:
"Growing up there were like pictures of Parker Posey all over the walls of the drama department. So it felt very like, oh, this is like, a real thing." – Mary Elizabeth [19:05]
On New England kid independence:
"I mean, I was the biggest latchkey kid… just being like, see ya. I'm out in the neighborhood and getting into whatever…" – Charlie [60:45]
On church at a gun range:
"Our church moved to the gun range because that’s where there was open space… when the gun range wouldn’t let us go there anymore, we moved to the catfish shack." – Mary Elizabeth [31:35]
On Ole Miss:
"They set up, like, tents with chandeliers and, like, chocolate fondue stations… People will get dressed to the nines and then get wasted and throw up on themselves." – Mary Elizabeth [71:41]
The tone is a perfect blend of affectionate nostalgia, sibling sarcasm, and loving mockery, both between the Meyers brothers and with their guests. There’s a seamless shift between grounded, relatable family complaints (lost towels, loud airplane talkers) and surreal recollections (church at a gun range, dental cleanings as courtship rituals). The conversation feels loose but heartfelt—with a few detours into pop culture, child-rearing philosophies, and the universal desire to impart a bit of messy, memorable fun to the next generation.
If you love hearing extraordinary people reminisce about extraordinarily ordinary family moments—and want to laugh while learning that almost every family trip ends in sand, sweat, or a surprise dental procedure—this is a perfect episode to sample.
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