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Josh
Hey, buddy. Hey, suv, how are you doing?
Sufi
I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. Been busy in the closet today. I am in the closet. We're getting a new roof on our building and I've sort of made some noise.
Josh
There's no quiet roof installations.
Sufi
Yeah, I mean, they had moved to a different part of the building, but today they're really right over the top of where I would normally record. And it's not bad in here.
Josh
All right, that's good.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
You were worried you were gonna get a little hot and sweaty, but you seem to be looking all right. You're holding pretty well.
Sufi
Yeah, I'm okay.
Josh
You're busy because you've been traveling a lot for your other podcast, California Now.
Sufi
Yeah, I went to. We're doing two episodes on the FIFA World cup locations.
Josh
Great.
Sufi
Here in California. So went to SoFi, went to Levi's Stadium and then some cool bars in San Francisco and got to interview Kobe Jones of the LA Galaxy and the US Men's National Team at the LA Galaxy Stadium. So, yeah, it's been cool.
Josh
You also, we haven't actually talked. I called you and you were in a car with somebody else. You were on Kimmel and Jimmy Kimmel Live and you did your exceptional Gavin Newsom impression right next to the actual Gavin Newsom. Yeah.
Sufi
Met Gavin, which was really fun. You know, I was all. I'd gone through hair and makeup before he got there. So I was in my dressing room and I wandered out just to see if he was there yet. And two of his security detail were there and they definitely double clutched because those people are supposed to know sort of where their principal is at all times. And they saw me, so they were
Josh
like, oh, we're about to get an earful. Because we.
Sufi
Yeah, we're like, he, you know, we know he's pulling up in 10 minutes, but he's standing right here. Somebody's dropped the ball. So. And then I went back in my dressing room and they could called me out when he got there and both of us were sort of like, whoa. Because it was, you know, it was.
Josh
It's height wise about the same too.
Sufi
He's taller. He's definitely taller. He's a tall dude, but he's, you know, he's a politician. He's made it his. He's figured out how to be approachable and easy to talk to.
Josh
He also did a great job move on camera, which I was gonna talk to you about. He leaned into your impression of him.
Sufi
Yeah.
Josh
Which is a really fun thing to Watch. Cause if you can tell when a politician does the other move, which is, this is a cartoon version of me, so I'm gonna just be the straight one, right?
Sufi
No, he was having fun with it. And also he had done, you know, three segments, so I feel like he. If I don't imagine that guy has any nerves for going on a talk show, I think he's always out public.
Josh
Yeah, he's pretty good.
Sufi
But I think you get, you know, you're looser in your third act than you are in your first. Sure.
Josh
And the audience is on your side. Yeah.
Sufi
And also, I will say the script for that bit was my bits were scripted. Jimmy had some scripted lines, but all of Governor Newsom's were just like. Just react naturally in the moment. So anything he said was just off the cuff.
Josh
Yeah, it was really good. Newsom twosome. Really enjoyed that.
Sufi
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it was fun. I. Yeah, I hope to. I hope to meet him again down the line here, but it was pretty. It was pretty exciting.
Josh
Very cool. Very cool to work. We had our last. Last ski day of the season, and it's a real accomplishment to get through ski season.
Sufi
Yeah.
Josh
As you know, I. I've had a lot of opinions about skiing over the years. Very few of them are positive. And yet here I am. You know, I ski once a week. I was texting with our friend Kevin Cohen, who's like a huge skier. He's like, you know, you ski more than I do now.
Sufi
Yeah.
Josh
And Addie did not want to take a lesson this week. She wanted to ski with me. And I will say truly, with no exaggeration, greatest three hours of skiing in my life.
Sufi
How amazing.
Josh
Could just go up with Addie Chatterbox on the lift. And then she is just such. She is so dutiful compared to my sons. Yeah. Where I'm like, we're just going to go down and I'll do turns and you just follow me. And she just like, I just do big S turns all the way down. She's just right behind me. Just so fun. And then she wants to go straight down at the bottom, like, you know, whatever. The bottom fifth. I'm like, okay, now you can just go straight down. She just, like, barrels down.
Sufi
Let her rip.
Josh
Yeah.
Sufi
You said big S turns, not big ass turns.
Josh
Yeah, no, but they were big ass turns. They were big ass turns. Yeah.
Sufi
Yeah. I don't know if we talked about it here or not. I know we talked about you going to Montana and skiing with the boys, but there is a video that I forget if we referenced it here, but great video of your three kids. And you pan across and they're sort of like, there's a little track that the kids are skiing in. And, you know, there's an instructor there, so it's like, follow us kind of through these gates.
Josh
Yeah. So think about. It's like a little bit of like. Yeah. Like, almost like a little bob sled track type thing that's like, kind of carved out of the snow. It's not like an actual metal track, but they're just.
Sufi
After you pan past your eldest, who's going pretty quick through this little track. Then Addie, who's a little slower. Then you see your middle boy, Axel, who's not in the track at all, but tries to cut across it and his skis hit the sort of edge of the bank that if he were in the track, he would be no trouble. But instead he hits it and his skis just stay right where they are and he goes launching forward. Yeah.
Josh
It's really great. He both. It is. It shows you how, like, good this. The bindings are because he literally launches out. Also, he's coming down and, like, he's the only one who always. He's just always yelling something that is not in line with the kind of scary is. He's like, cowabunga. And then just like, click, click, goes flying. I think it was like the third video I took that I had to stop because he had fallen. Oh, wow. Yeah. And just always some weird thing where he was just overconfident. Yeah. And I also think he's like. I don't know, his natural state is to be just lying in a pile. So I think he's like, oh, we made it. But of course he wants to watch it. I mean, he's made us watch it like, a hundred times.
Sufi
Yeah. No, it's a great video.
Josh
Yeah.
Sufi
Great fail.
Josh
We just wanted to say real quick, rest in peace to Eric Dane, the actor. We had him on this podcast. He was a fantastic conversation. He was a great actor. He passed away a couple months ago, and we're just really lucky we get to cross paths with him.
Sufi
Yeah. Such a cool guy. You know, just talking about his sort of water polo career and how, like, even in later years, he still sort of had that fire to be like, no, if I got in there, I'd want to, like, sprint after someone to try to take them down. Yeah. He was such a joy and, yeah, a terrible loss. And we certainly feel for his family and are lucky that we. Yeah. Got Some time to chat to him.
Josh
Our friend Darcy Carden is our guest today, and we are lucky to know her and her husband Jason very well. And you're about to be very lucky to hear about her. Really. She just. It seems like she just came from a great family.
Sufi
Yeah, yeah. Good trips. A lot of siblings and enjoy family
Narrator
trips with the Miles brothers.
Darcy
Family trips with the M. Here we go. Am I here?
Josh
Yeah, you're here.
Darcy
Hello,
Sufi
brothers.
Darcy
The brothers.
Josh
Hello, friend.
Darcy
Hi, guys.
Josh
We're just gonna start off, Darcy, by saying we know you well, we know your husband very well, and yet I did not know that you guys met at Disneyland, which seems very fitting for the theme of this podcast.
Darcy
Yeah, that's right. That is such a weird fact that whenever anyone says it, I'm like, well, no, no. Like, it makes us sound like full Disney adults, which we are not.
Josh
Yeah. Even though you're not full of Disney adults, you just met the love of your life at Disney as an adult.
Darcy
And we probably go once a year.
Sufi
Disney adults aren't bad people.
Darcy
No, they're not bad people. And the people that are listening to this podcast that are Disney adults, we love you and we thank you for your patronage.
Josh
Right. Yeah.
Darcy
Yeah, we did. We met at Disneyland. I was visiting friends in la. I lived in New York, and he was in the group of friends of the friends I was visiting, and they were going to Disneyland for the day. And so I was like, I was like the out of town friend going to Disneyland and like the odd man out, and he was really nice to me.
Josh
I will say, it does sound like a nice place to meet somebody. Like, you're walking around all day, you're doing rides.
Darcy
Yeah. You know, you're like standing in line. You're kind of getting to know each other.
Josh
It's not alcohol fueled.
Darcy
Yeah, that's right.
Sufi
Or is it? Or was it? I don't know. There's always. There's that secret bar that you hear about. I don't know if it's more accessible now than it used to be, but there was always chatter of the secret bar at Disney.
Darcy
Right. I never. I've never indulged in alcohol at Disneyland. I think I like, ate weed one time when I was younger.
Josh
We've all eaten weed,
Darcy
but it was sweet. And, you know, can you imagine, like, there's this moment where, you know, when you're at a theme park, you have to, like, couple up to go on a ride together, you know, and there was like. And I think I was often riding with my friend's daughter. Okay. Who was like four. And there was like one ride where Jason was like, ride with me. And all of a sudden I was kind of like, okay, like a little bit of a flutter.
Sufi
Wow.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
That's really nice.
Sufi
What ride was it?
Darcy
Mr. Toad's wild ride.
Josh
Yeah. And what is marriage if not Mr. Toad's wild ride?
Sufi
Wow.
Darcy
That is if you go back and watch that movie.
Josh
Yeah.
Sufi
Mr. Toad was very big in our household growing up.
Josh
It was, oh, like the movie or the books.
Sufi
And the.
Josh
The books.
Darcy
I know. I'm like, what is it? What is it? There's.
Sufi
It's the Wind and the Willows.
Josh
The Wind and the Willows is the book. But the movie's great. But the movie, it's one of those. By the way, now sound off in the comments. Disney adults. I feel like movie is like the Headless Horseman. It's not a full movie.
Darcy
Okay.
Josh
It's like a little cartoon either. I don't know what it was. I think it was like, maybe a thing they showed before, like Bambi.
Darcy
Okay. Okay. That totally sounds right. And I feel like it was darkish. It was like a little. A little. It wasn't bright and happy. Disney. It was like a little.
Josh
No, but it's awesome.
Darcy
It genuinely is. So good. I remember loving it. Also, Headless Horseman, a bit of a crush of mine. Ichabod Crane. I was always like, yeah, this dude's
Josh
not doing a lot to disabuse those who call you a Disney adult.
Darcy
And who's calling me that?
Josh
Met my husband on Toad's Wild Ride. Not a full Ichabod Crane, but close enough.
Darcy
He's giving full Ichabod.
Josh
Where. So, but you're born. So you went to. Obviously you got your schooling in New York and then in early theater stuff.
Darcy
You know what? I got my schooling in Ashland, Oregon, but then moved directly to New York. So I grew up in the Bay Area.
Josh
Got it. That's where I was going to ask where? Danville, California.
Darcy
Danville, California. We all know Danville, California.
Josh
Sure. We didn't just read it for the first time in your bio.
Darcy
Yeah. And depending on where you're from, some people say Danville.
Sufi
Okay, good.
Darcy
But nobody in California does. And then. Yeah, went to school in Oregon in, like, the southernmost little town in Oregon, which is very popular for its Shakespeare Festival and good little theater school. And then. Yeah. Moved to New York directly after college and lived there for a decade or so.
Sufi
But you got three siblings, correct?
Darcy
I have three siblings. Lainey, Will, Miranda.
Sufi
And where do you Fall.
Darcy
I'm the second, which I always say is, like, in the middle, but it is in the middle.
Josh
Yeah, it's in the middle.
Darcy
Miranda was a little bit of an afterthought child. She came nine years ago.
Josh
We still haven't figured out the right way to say this. I know. I like that you didn't use mistake. But afterthought also doesn't feel like the warm embrace.
Darcy
What we call it in our family is A team and B team. The two oldest are the A team, and the two youngest are the B team, which they love.
Josh
What's the gap between two and three? Is that the.
Darcy
The gap between two and three is like five years.
Josh
Okay. So, I mean, that's no small thing either.
Darcy
What are you guys, two years?
Sufi
Two years?
Josh
Yeah.
Darcy
My sis Lainey and I are like 16 months or something like that, you know, really close.
Josh
And that was so close. They were like, we gotta give it a full half a decade.
Darcy
This is too much. So, yeah, the oldest two girls are really close in age. And then little brother was how we were for a long time. And then Miranda came along and brightened up our lives.
Josh
So Miranda is like a full. You were almost in college by the
Darcy
time she came around. I was. You know, I was only nine when she came. So, I mean, in a way, that's almost in college in the grand scheme of life.
Josh
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Darcy
If you're looking at full life.
Josh
Sure, sure, sure.
Darcy
Yeah, yeah. It's a blink, but, yeah. So she came. She came late. But it's. You know, I think some people have the type of. When there's a big gap in siblings, you're. You're. Especially if you are almost in college, you're like, well, I didn't really live with them very much, but Miranda, she's the light of our lives. That's great. She came along and she was ours. She was like my older sister. And I was like, this is our baby.
Josh
Yeah. I feel like my oldest boy is nine. My oldest child, too. He just happens to be a boy, but I think he would embrace a young child if we had one now. Yeah, he's very sweet.
Darcy
Yeah, do it.
Josh
And he'd have to. Yeah, all right, all right.
Darcy
Yeah, just do it.
Sufi
Yeah.
Josh
Okay.
Darcy
He wants it.
Sufi
Come on.
Josh
That's all it took. That's all it took.
Sufi
I'm looking at your mother's name, and I love. And I feel like I've never seen it before.
Darcy
Okay. Her last name?
Sufi
I don't know. Angelfried?
Darcy
Yeah, that's her maiden name.
Josh
Oh, Gotcha. Oh, that listed as her first name, which was very exciting.
Darcy
Wait, on like, Wikipedia or something or just.
Josh
Where did I get it?
Darcy
On your family trips.
Josh
Recent family trips. Has a new AI. That's pretty shaky.
Darcy
No, this is great.
Sufi
I thought her first name was Engelfried and it was going to be like, amazing.
Josh
Chat FT is not the best.
Darcy
Well, it's still in, like, its early stages. Give it some time. Yeah. So this is just a normal name. Laurie. But then Englefried is a strange. You know, I've never heard it before other than my whole life, but, you know, outside of this family. But she goes by my maiden name, which is Ericin.
Josh
God.
Darcy
Did you know that I had a maiden name?
Josh
No. That's so weird.
Darcy
Did you think that Jason and I were siblings and we were like.
Josh
Well, I felt like you have so much in common. You're both Disney adults. Both. Both cartons, mostly.
Darcy
Just wait.
Josh
Yeah, she goes by. Okay, wait, I know.
Darcy
There's too many fucking names. And by the way, it's simple. My family all goes by Ericin.
Josh
Okay.
Darcy
But then when Jason proposed to me. How good does Darcy Cardin sound?
Josh
It's very good.
Darcy
Yeah. And Ericin is a great last name, but has never been pronounced correctly once in my entire life.
Josh
How do you spell it?
Darcy
E, R, O, K, A, N. Oh, yeah.
Josh
That's awesome. There's just so. There's so many different ways you could do it.
Darcy
Totally. And this is like a Something I feel like you guys will understand. Imagine, like, every time my name was. Every time I was introduced at ucb, the theater that I. That I like came up in, in New York, where people. Where I knew these people, like family, it would be like. And welcome to the stage, Darcy. Erin. Like, just so stressed out about how to say it. So I kind of welcomed the. I welcomed the Cardan.
Josh
I can't believe Engelfried does sound like. I'm surprised it wasn't used in at least one 80s movie about like the nerd in the back. Like, angle free does seem like what you'd call. But. So Erican is Turkish.
Darcy
Turkish.
Josh
And I feel like that would be. I feel like nobody. So very few people know how to pronounce Turkish names.
Darcy
It's a tough one. And also my grandpa made it up.
Josh
Oh, so it's even harder.
Darcy
It's even harder.
Josh
I mean, two levels of difficulty.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
So even Turkish people are like, this isn't one of ours. Don't pin this on us.
Darcy
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But. But every. But Engle Freed Is. Is my mom has a big old family. Seven siblings. A lot of Engle Freeds in my life.
Josh
So your dad from Turkey? From Istanbul, yeah. And he came. How old was he?
Darcy
When he was really young. He was like three or four.
Josh
Oh, wow.
Darcy
Yeah. Really young.
Josh
Okay.
Darcy
To California, to Boston for a while. They're Greek and Turkish, actually half Greek, half Turkish. Great. So all of the Greek family lived in Boston, which I think is popular. Right. A lot of Greeks in Boston or Massachusetts. And then moved to the Bay Area when he was maybe in like junior high. Met my freaking mom, got freaking married, had four freaking kids.
Josh
Wow.
Sufi
Wow. In junior high.
Darcy
Yeah. Really young. 12 and 13. You can do it.
Josh
Was Turkey part of his life? Did he go back to Turkey?
Darcy
No.
Josh
Okay, interesting.
Darcy
Yeah. And we've always sort of been like, what the hell, man? Yeah, take us there.
Sufi
Yeah.
Josh
And was he from Istanbul as well?
Darcy
Yeah, yeah.
Josh
That's like a bucket list city for me too. So it's very special.
Darcy
Me too. I know I gotta get to the bottom of this, actually. What? Okay. There was something like. There's some. My family will be listening to this right now and they'll know the answer.
Josh
By the way, I'm gonna say the fact that your grandfather made up a last name. There might be some legal issues.
Darcy
That's right. I honestly, Honestly, there is something. My family knows the story so well and I don't.
Josh
Yeah.
Darcy
Because I guess I'm a self centered actor.
Sufi
But.
Josh
But it's like our story began when I was cast in the Good Place.
Darcy
We all know it well. But my grandma was Greek and my grandpa was Turkish and they weren't allowed to really live in either of those places together. So there was like a bit of a get out of here. A bit of a flea, a bit of a you must leave now. So there might be some like residual, like resentment. I don't know, like you didn't want us. I don't. I mean, my dad has never said that, but my siblings and I have discussed. And there was also something about like he could be put in the army until pretty late if he went back. What am I talking about?
Josh
It wouldn't be funny if you went back and somehow you owed conscription for both your dad and your grandfather. They're like, yeah, no, you're doing a full eight.
Darcy
You have to welcome. Yeah, yeah. So we haven't been. But I'd like to. I have been to Greece, but damn. Would really like to go to Turkey.
Sufi
Have you seen family in Greece?
Darcy
Well, only in the face of every Frickin woman. I pass by. Sorry, sorry, sorry. You spit out truly fantastic. It was wild. I didn't expect that. But every Greek woman that passed, I was like, hello grandmother. But I didn't. I went with. We all know it. The Good place took me there for the finale of the show. Everybody knows. Nobody knows this, but we shot a bit of the finale in Greece, so we got to go.
Josh
And it was just three of you, right? Or was it every. Yeah, it was just you.
Darcy
And it was truly like, it was Kristin and William Jackson Harper and an absolute bone thrown to me. Is that what you say? They threw me a bone which is like I had like one line.
Josh
A man. I as a man who's caught many bones that were thrown by butcher over the years.
Darcy
Yes. You caught those. Yeah, it's a great bone to catch.
Josh
Yeah.
Darcy
So it was truly like. Yeah, you can, we can put you in the scene.
Josh
Great.
Darcy
Yeah, it rules.
Josh
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Sufi
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Sufi
Nothing.
Josh
Sufi, how's your kitchen doing?
Sufi
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Josh
I mean, your old pans, I mean, don't take this the wrong way. Warped, I think would be almost too nice a word for what your pans used to look like.
Sufi
Yeah, there were some scratches that sort of make were dubious. And, you know, now I have these beautiful pans. They've changed the game, Sufi.
Josh
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Sufi
No, no, no.
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Josh
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Sufi
Yeah. Cause they're like, just put it at a. Cover it and put it at a low simmer for like a half an hour. And then you come back and there's either been no heat on or you've boiled everything down and then your food's all dried out and terrible. But you just look through the nice. Hexclad lids and everything's perfect every time.
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Yeah, I would love that, buddy.
Sufi
Last minute. This year, before my birthday, I really wanted to go skiing. There was a lot of snow up at Mammoth Mountain. And I looked at some of the places that I usually stay, some hotels in the area, and some, they were all so expensive. They were. So I don't know why the prices were so expensive. So I look up Airbnb and I found a perfect little two bedroom spot condo, private hot tub. Drove up. My host, Charlotte, couldn't have been nicer. I told her that I was skiing. She was like, if you need to get in early, you know that's fine as well. You don't have to ski until 4. I was like, I'm probably going to ski till 4. But she made that available to me. She was so friendly, so responsive. I got back to the spot, I had a great kitchen, so I didn't have to be going out to dinner every night. I asked her, I was like, hey, I've walked around the property, I don't see this hot tub. And she said, it's right out the door from the main bedroom. So I pulled the curtain back and ta da. Hot tub. That was just for me.
Josh
You love a hot tub.
Sufi
I love a hot tub. And it was great. It was my little home away from home. A perfect spot for me to spend a couple days while I was getting up on the mountain. Perfect location to any of the three sort of base lodges. It was great. And I would stay there again in a heartbeat.
Josh
That's wonderful. I'm so glad you booked on Airbnb, my friend.
Sufi
Yeah, well, booking a trip on Airbnb makes for a better trip. You could be traveling with family or looking to discover authentic and local experiences. Airbnb protein is now at Starbucks and
Darcy
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Josh
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Darcy
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Josh
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Darcy
Here we go.
Sufi
So, going back to more childhood, what were your trips like? Were you traveling before these younger siblings came around? Were you doing big group trips once everyone had arrived?
Darcy
I was thinking about, you know, preparing for this. I was thinking about and then decided, yay or nay?
Josh
I was thinking about preparing and I
Darcy
decided, no, no, I was thinking about this dot, dot, dot, while.
Josh
Yeah, got it.
Darcy
You little smart Asses, you little brother bullies.
Josh
I'm a little snarky. We were gonna call it the Snark Twins originally was gonna be the name of it.
Darcy
Yes, you are in a closet. But great sound.
Josh
No.
Sufi
There's roofers on my roof this morning and it's.
Josh
Okay. Okay, well, where else would they be?
Darcy
Well, Seth, you're kind of being a bully.
Josh
I can snark any way I want.
Darcy
Josh. We have to snark on him at some point.
Josh
I know what happened. Oh, good luck. I'm scratch proof.
Darcy
Yeah, so we did do a lot of trips.
Sufi
He's shower proof too, also.
Josh
Oh, boy.
Sufi
He's shower proof.
Josh
I put down my garbage. Got me.
Sufi
Yeah, we both showered. I mean, your hair looks like it's, you know, you've done something to yourself today. And Seth has put on a sweatshirt. Sorry.
Darcy
Okay, so are you saying that Seth didn't shower today?
Josh
Yeah, that's what he's saying.
Darcy
But did you know that fact? I mean, you can just tell.
Sufi
Yeah.
Josh
I would say growing up with me, like he knew where to put the money.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
I am very proud of myself. I did spend the five minutes before we started one of my. The ties of my thing was in the hood.
Darcy
That's not an easy task.
Josh
No, yeah, I got it.
Darcy
Kind of had to do like a. I really.
Josh
It's real slow and I feel real proud of myself.
Sufi
Sorry I interrupted you, but.
Darcy
No, no, no.
Sufi
Dish.
Darcy
We took a lot of trips, a lot of, you know, growing up in the Bay Area, there's so many places to go that by car. You know, there's. Growing up in California. Really? We did a lot of houseboating trips on Lake Shasta. A gorgeous lake.
Sufi
Yeah.
Darcy
We did a yearly or twice yearly trip to la, where sometimes we would stay in LA for the whole entire goddamn summer.
Josh
Wow.
Sufi
Way out.
Josh
I know.
Darcy
Okay, I don't know if this will mean anything to you guys, because you are. No, no, no. This might mean. Okay. Do you know what the Oakwood Hotel is?
Josh
Only from actors saying that.
Darcy
Yeah. Yeah. So we would also calling it a hotel. I've never said hotel in my life. Oakwood residence. I think it's what it is. Yeah, it's like a long term apartment.
Sufi
The one on Barham.
Darcy
Yeah. Long term, short term, you guys. So we.
Josh
For our listeners, this is like if you are like young actors, particularly like someone lives in New York and they like book a job in la, like maybe a summer movie, and they would like last minute be able to like book a residence at the Oakwood at the Oakwood. This is not flashy, probably.
Darcy
It's furnished. It's not flashy. And also, you know, young actors, but specifically like child actors. Like, Like, I believe there's like a child actor wrangler that is there. Like, you know, like a. Not more than a babysitter, but somebody that's sort of like the children. Come with me. Um, so my, My. My dad worked in the Bay Area, but had an office in la. And so he would come to. We. He would come to LA for the summers and we would join. You know, he would, like, work in the LA office.
Josh
Yeah, got it. So it wasn't. It was not. But was the plan. Like, would he have had to go to LA anyway? Or was he like, you know what? I'll work out of the LA office. Cause that's a better place for my kids to spend the summer?
Darcy
No, I think it was. I mean, he was the. Sorry to brag, boss. Oh, the CEO.
Josh
Oh, wow.
Darcy
The editor in chief. Okay.
Josh
Of a magazine of Erdikan importers. And I don't know what they did and I still don't know.
Darcy
Don't ask any questions. Erdekan. Great. Yeah. He had magazines in the 70s, 80s and 90s, and the music magazine, BAM magazine had a big LA office.
Josh
Got it.
Darcy
You know, the big LA music scene in the lc.
Josh
And would you look forward to a summer in la?
Darcy
Totally. It was. I mean, it's funny thinking back on it because I don't remember, like big tearful goodbyes with friends or anything.
Josh
Right.
Darcy
I think because we had so many siblings and LA was really fun. We, you know, we would like, go to the beach a lot and go to Disneyland and it was such a work summer for my dad and it was like such a vacation summer for my mom and the kids. My mom, I'm sure she's like, jesus Christ, gotta cart these kids all over la.
Josh
Cause I would say, right? Oakwood to the beach is not close.
Darcy
Not close, but also, like, you know, when you don't like, live here, you do things like that. Does that make sense?
Sufi
Yeah.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
And when, I mean, by the way, like, we in New Hampshire, when we go to the beach in the summer, probably more than an hour, right, Buzz?
Sufi
Yeah, I mean, it was. It was about an hour. But also.
Darcy
Yeah.
Sufi
I mean, if you're at the Oak woods, you're sort of right on the highway there. So if you do it at the right time. At the right time and like, I'm guessing you make a day of it.
Darcy
If you're Make a day of it. There were two summers of these many summers that we stayed at the Oakwood in Marina del Rey. That was like, on the beach. That was like, walk to the beach. Anyway, so the LA summers were really fun.
Josh
What was? Not to go back, but Lake Shasta.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
Where is Lake Shasta?
Darcy
Lake Shasta is north, so north. North. North California. I mean, I think of. I say Northern California. I always think of the Bay Area, and then there's, like, more Northern California. There's so much more. Again, kind of making it about myself.
Sufi
Yeah.
Darcy
And it's up near, you know, like, on the way to Oregon.
Josh
Yeah, got it.
Darcy
North. North. I'm being fair.
Sufi
It's in the shadow of Mount Shasta.
Darcy
Yeah, it is.
Josh
Yeah.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
Was your family outdoorsy? Was that, like, when you would go to Lake Shasta?
Darcy
This was kind of the extent of the outdoorsy. And we would go with a couple other families who were probably more outdoorsy. We did it. We. We loved it and did a good job of being outdoorsy. But, like, I wouldn't call my dad, like, Mr. Outdoorsy.
Josh
Right.
Darcy
Would you call. Were you guys. Were you guys super outdoorsy?
Sufi
I was the most outdoorsy of us. We spent a lot of time outside, but we weren't super outdoorsy people.
Darcy
Yeah, I feel like we. We camped, like, once or twice.
Josh
We had. I wouldn't call my dad Mr. Outdoorsy, only because he was already Mr. Screams his head off.
Darcy
And it would be like, yeah, who are you talking about?
Josh
They wouldn't know. The mailman wouldn't know where to.
Darcy
Right.
Josh
Like, who's this guy?
Darcy
Yeah, exactly. Screams his head off. I did not have a scream. My dad isn't. Screams his head off.
Josh
Oh, yeah, that's.
Darcy
My dad is like. Like, I'm disappointed.
Sufi
And what. So if you were on a houseboat, were you on a houseboat with other families, or did every family have their own.
Darcy
Yeah, that's okay. So I think there were, like, four families, and I think we would get two houseboats and we would. We would sort of like, you know, travel, sail, float boat together next to each other. And then when we would dock, we would, like, tie the boats up together. So it was kind of like a double. A double. A double boat. And that was really fun. This was with, like, you know, four of us, four families. Everybody had kids. A lot of it was just. It was. I think, like. I think of houseboating as, like, a luxury vacation. And it's because of these trips, like, I have suggested to friends that we go houseboating and everyone's like, huh,
Sufi
do you sleep on the boats?
Darcy
You sleep on the boat. You sleep on the. On the roof, under the stars. There's. It's like a little. Have you ever been on a houseboat?
Sufi
Yeah.
Darcy
You know, it's like there's rooms and there's a kitchen and there's a living room, and you can sleep in the rooms on, like in the bunk beds. But everybody would sort of pile onto the roof and we would. I think we'd, like, go. In August, when there was a meteor shower, it was just kind of magical and fun. It was just.
Josh
Again, this. It seems like this is another one based on what you're talking about that you, like, looked forward to.
Darcy
Totally look forward to it. Yeah, it was. It was like. It was probably our outdoorsiest. So it would be like, let's go on a hike or let's go jump in that waterfall or like, you know, or swim in the. In the damn lake. I do remember, you know, this is like 90s. I'm picturing my brother, who's three years younger than me, Will, who was definitely like. Like punk, emo. I wouldn't even say goth, but he was my man was wearing black and metal. He was wearing black. He was wearing things with studs in it and this. So this was not like his area. I remember, you know, like. Like being in the sun all day, like hiking around. I remember.
Josh
Yeah, you never hear people dress like that, being like, love the outdoors.
Darcy
Exactly, exactly. Love.
Josh
I love when the metal gets hot.
Darcy
I'm picturing this one day that he was like, in. There was like a little top nook of. Of the. Of the houseboat. So, like, on the roof, there was like a little nook that you could go in, I guess, for. I don't know. I don't know. There would be a shade. It was like. Imagine a little cave on top of the roof. And he would go in there to read and draw. And there was one day that his little feet were sticking out. And I think he fell asleep for the rest of the trip. He just had absolutely red top of feetsies, just burnt to a crisp.
Josh
Josh had some real embarrassing sunburns over the years. Yeah, but Josh is always shopping for a sunburn. Cause he's so pale and does a great job. And I should say, like, as an adult, you've done a great job, Josh. You take your skin health very seriously.
Sufi
I think multiple skin cancer removal things.
Darcy
Yes, that'll do it.
Sufi
We'll change a man.
Josh
That'll ring the bell. The Alarm bells. Yeah.
Darcy
But as a kid, you're like, get SPF the hell away from me. Or like a sun hat. Right. You're just like, I want to play in the sand.
Josh
The red foot of shame is a big.
Darcy
The Red Foot of shame.
Sufi
Would you. Would you go to sort of different places on land? Would you bring the boats to sort of. Would you swim off and then go hike in the woods or.
Darcy
Yeah, we would like, a lot of hikes. I don't remember ever, like, you know, stopping to go, like, into town or anything. We wouldn't, like, dock and, like, go to the local, you know, restaurant or whatever. It was very much contained into these two boats. So we would dock. We would, like, barbecue. A lot of cards were played. It was a lot of different aged kids, like, teenage boy, down to a couple little kids, and everybody got along really well. It was sweet. It was sweet. It was really sweet. Nobody was making out.
Sufi
And when you've got the boats tied together, is it just sort of like your footprint has just gotten that much bigger and you can just hop boat to boat? If you want to hang out with the older kids, you're over there and the younger kids are there.
Darcy
In fact, I think there was like a little swinging gate thing that you would open. And so it was all one, basically, you know? Yeah. There was no there. It was no. There was no, like, distinction almost on whose boat was whose. It was all one big. Whole big old square.
Sufi
Yeah.
Darcy
But it was really fun, really sweet. Like, I truly would like to do that again.
Sufi
Yeah.
Darcy
I don't know if anybody wants to do it with me, but I want
Sufi
to do it again.
Josh
Did you. Did your parents, Four kids. That's a lot.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
Were they sort of stressful travelers? Were they laid back travelers?
Sufi
They were.
Darcy
You know, I feel like this is common that, like, dad was. He was like. He was like a commander, you know what I mean? Like, especially if it was an airport situation, but even with packing and, oh, wow. I just. Oh, it's so fun when a little memory flashes. Like, I am realizing in this moment I was like his good little soldier. You know what I mean? I was like, I'll help you with the bags, dad. Like, I'm your best son. And he would, like, compliment me on, like, good God, you're so strong. And I'd be like, God, this is
Josh
gonna fuel me for weeks, I think so. That's my oldest. Is this real? He wants to be a helper, and he wants to be strong. That's so cute. We were leaving. We were Leaving the ski place the other day, and there were, like, two bags and all these skis. And so I had one bag, he had another bag. And then we have another kid named Axel who could care less. And I was like, I'll go get the car. You can just set the things down so we don't have to carry them. And Ash is like, no, give me the bag. I'm not gonna let him touch the snow. And I'm like, you're not. This is not. And he's like, I got him. And he was like. And then I, like, you know, took me, like, 10 minutes to pull the car around. He was just standing there, like. And meanwhile, like, Axel's just, like, leaning against the snow drift. You care less.
Darcy
I love how. I love it. I love that. And all he wants is for you to be like, God, you're so strong, buddy.
Josh
You're so strong.
Darcy
Yeah. Did you give it to him?
Josh
Oh, 100%. Okay, good.
Sufi
Yeah, I.
Josh
Look, the fact that any of my children want to be helpful, they get a lot of positive feedback.
Darcy
I remember also, like, you know, being at airports, at the baggage claim, and. And the way, like, a dad would be like, you guys sit back there, you know, you guys, like, hold a spot, and I'll grab the. I would be right next to my dad being like, I got this bag, dad.
Sufi
Yeah.
Darcy
No, no, no, I got it. I got it. Like, takes me out.
Josh
It is that thing that kids don't realize. I'm like, it's a bad look to
Darcy
the other parents when you're like, ouch. I. We. So many of these trips were. We would drive to them. But I'm thinking, okay, so thinking about the baggage claim, I do remember a trip. This was a rad trip. We went to Phoenix, Arizona, to go to the A's spring training.
Sufi
Wow.
Josh
What? Yeah.
Darcy
This was, like, 90ish.
Josh
Okay.
Darcy
89. 90. Absolute freaking bash brothers ass. Wow. Like, I mean, my grandma Anita, my Greek grandmother, was a gigantic ace fan. Canseco was like, her man. I think she had, like, a framed picture of him on her wall.
Josh
That's great.
Darcy
And she really wanted to go to spring training, so my.
Josh
In the right light, Jose Canseco looks a little Greek.
Darcy
Yeah. For real.
Josh
Probably helped. Probably helped, Anita.
Darcy
Totally. Like a Greek God.
Josh
Yeah. Really? Truly.
Darcy
Truly.
Sufi
Yeah.
Josh
There's a. There's multiple statues in Athens where you're like, I think that's Canseco.
Darcy
Is that Canseco? So we went to spring training, and I don't know why we did this. I mean, it's great that we did this, but how do we do this? We stayed at the same hotel that they stayed at.
Sufi
Wow.
Josh
Wow.
Darcy
So we, like. I'm remembering, like, morning breakfast buffets, just being in between these, like, gigantic baseball players. My brother remembers that Canseco ate, like, a dozen eggs a day. I don't know if that's true, but
Josh
I think it is unbelievable. That sounds very believable. Did you. So I was gonna say, like, wow. A's spring training with two older. Like, with two. The two girls are the oldest, and I seem very dad driven, but was this Anita's idea? Was this, like, oh, that's fantastic.
Darcy
I know. She was. She was, like, the reason that we were all A's fans. I don't know why that happened. It wasn't, like, a lifelong thing of hers. It might have been because of the. That excitement of that time on days 88, 89, 90, whatever, that she just loved Dingers.
Josh
She was like, I don't care. And then it was just like, dinger central in the old Coliseum, and she's like, I'm in on this. Tell me more about what are the rules of this game.
Sufi
If there was a bandwagon to be on, that was a pretty good one.
Darcy
That was the one. Yeah. And she would get angry if they lost. And it was really, really important to her. It really became, like, her thing. And so we all just jumped on with her. And weirdly, the town I grew up in, Danville, had a lot of A's players lived there. Canseco lived in Danville.
Josh
Wow.
Darcy
Dennis Eckersley, Walt Weiss, all these guys. You'd, like, see them at the local. I don't know.
Josh
So is the Lonely Islands Bash Brothers comedy special, like, a seminal work for you?
Darcy
It literally. It literally brought tears to my eyes.
Josh
Yeah.
Darcy
Like, I mean, so goddamn good and funny. But I was like. When I did it come out during
Josh
COVID Yeah, I think it was.
Darcy
Okay.
Josh
Whatever. So we are all emotionally on the air.
Darcy
Exactly. But I remember watching it with Jason and having tears in my eyes, and I was like, I feel like they wrote this for me. Like, I knew every reference. It was. It just. And Jason and I listened to that a lot. We listen to it a lot.
Josh
Yeah, it's great. It's a great album slash Netflix special.
Darcy
Yeah, it is.
Sufi
Also, I've been to Arizona during spring training for, like, you know, guys golf trips, but we've never gone to those games. They're like, the stadiums are tiny, or they're so much more accessible. Yeah. So Were you seeing a lot of games?
Darcy
Seeing a lot of games. Seeing a lot. It was like, yeah, I'm sure we would go to a game a day. I mean, also, I don't remember. You know, when you're like a little kid, these trips, you're like, did we go for the weekend? Did we go for a month?
Sufi
Yeah.
Josh
Yeah.
Darcy
That's the way these LA trips feel, too. Where I'm like, we went for months to, like, we lived there, but, yeah, I'm sure we went to, like, three games or something. But the big excitement was the hotel, like, going to. I remember being in the hot tub with my older sister, lainey, and Mark McGuire just dropped his gigantic body into the hot tub with us, and we were like, holy.
Josh
By the way, it was. Speaks about, like, how much more money is in sports now. Like, I guarantee you Aaron Judge is not sharing a hot tub with a couple of kids.
Darcy
Right. Right. It wasn't a fancy hotel. It was like a very average hotel.
Sufi
Yeah.
Josh
That's unbelievable.
Darcy
Yeah. I wonder what the hotel was like.
Josh
Are you. Do you feel. Do you feel any abandonment over the fact it's very sad that the A's have left Oakland?
Darcy
I do, but more. My sister Lainey, my older sister lives still in the Bay Area and is a big. She's a huge. She's a huge baseball family. Make it make sense. They are a huge baseball family. My nephew Dash is, like, an incredible baseball player and I'm sure will go on to be a damn A. Is that what they call A's? It's singular.
Josh
A. Yeah.
Sufi
Yeah.
Darcy
Okay.
Josh
Yeah.
Sufi
Yeah.
Josh
It is fun. I wonder if. Guys. It's always been my dream to be an A. An A. I guess that's how you.
Darcy
Yeah, I'm an A. And we are A's. So they are so upset. Like, they know all the ins and outs and who to be mad at and everything. I'm more just like, oh, I want to see more games in Oakland. But I am like, such a. I. The. The sports that I love, I love them. From, like, the time that I loved them, I have never stuck with a. With a. We were, like, really into the warriors, too, and now I. But back when they, like, weren't good, when it was, maybe they were good, but it was like Chris Mullen and Tim Hardaway.
Josh
Yeah, they were interesting.
Darcy
They were great. But I don't think they won a lot.
Sufi
Yeah.
Darcy
No shade. Chris Mullen. I find him in my DMs.
Josh
He's like, Run. Run, TMC.
Darcy
Yeah, run, TMC.
Josh
Yeah. Can you name the TMC and run TMC?
Sufi
Posh.
Josh
There's no way.
Darcy
Can you.
Josh
Oh, well, I'll ask you, Darcy. Josh won't be able to.
Sufi
No.
Darcy
Is there no way?
Josh
There's no way.
Sufi
The M is Chris Mullen.
Josh
No, the C is Chris Mullen. Okay.
Darcy
Tmc.
Sufi
No, I can't. This was a fun game.
Josh
Tim Hardaway. Yes. This is a fun game, Josh.
Darcy
People love this. Wait, T. Mitch Richmond.
Josh
Yes. That was great. And I hope everybody in their cars right now is clapping and they're like, oh, my God, I'm so glad Josh didn't derail that before she got up.
Darcy
Josh, who was your. Were you into basketball?
Sufi
Not enough, apparently. I mean, we were Celtics fans, but I'm Celtics fans.
Josh
Yeah.
Darcy
That does it.
Josh
By the way, I was not like some giant. I just remember there was a Run TMC poster.
Darcy
Yes.
Josh
And I think that some. One of my friends had it. That's the only reason.
Darcy
Don't you remember it so well?
Josh
I do.
Darcy
I mean, like, it had graffiti all over the wall. Is that the one? Yeah.
Josh
It's like a lost thing. Maybe it's not, but I feel like posters are a lost thing.
Darcy
Freaking posters.
Josh
Freaking posters, dude.
Sufi
I don't know. I bet posters are still around. Posters are. You're not in the demo for posters anymore. I bet if you go to, like, a mall, they got poster shops. And if you were of a certain age, you'd be buying posters.
Josh
You know what? Demo. My kids are never gonna be in a demo. Which is a mom who's not Alexi. There ain't no posters going up in her house.
Darcy
Yeah. When they go to college, their dorm is going to be poster.
Josh
Oh, the amount of posters.
Darcy
Every single inch will be plastic.
Josh
Did young Darcy have a poster? Was there a. Yeah, I had post.
Darcy
You guys, listen to how cool this room was. Imagine this. One of my entire walls, from floor to ceiling, was cork board.
Sufi
Ooh.
Josh
Oh, wow.
Darcy
So if I didn't have a poster on it, it would. I mean, it was covered. It was like.
Josh
That's super cool. Not cool at all is like, all four of my walls were corkboard.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
We live in a cor.
Darcy
Yeah, I know. And also, it sort of has to be a kid's room or maybe an office, but, like, that's not for everybody. And my older sister only had half a cork wall. Sorry, Lainey.
Josh
Oh, man, that's the best.
Sufi
So what kind of posters were up there?
Darcy
It was, like, a lot of pictures of Eddie Vedder.
Sufi
Sure.
Darcy
A lot of, like, you know, Just plastered in, like, grunge music and. And maybe, like, a Keanu Reeves here and there and then. Yeah, a lot of music. A lot of music.
Josh
Then a giant. I had this shirtless Ichabod Crane.
Darcy
Oh, yeah, Ichabod. Don't get me started on my freaking.
Josh
I had my. If you said posh, I'll let you answer this question. Let's see if the trivia can get a little easier for you. I'll make it about the house you grew up in.
Darcy
Oh, God.
Josh
If you were to say, what's the most seminal poster in my room growing up Poster.
Sufi
Well, I mean, I.
Josh
Movie poster.
Darcy
A movie poster.
Sufi
A movie poster. Yeah.
Josh
Give me one more hint. I'm gonna do the I'm Poseid artist.
Darcy
Risky Business.
Josh
Yeah. Ferris Bueller. Ferris Day off. I had a Ferris Bueller's Day off poster. Like, literally the first thing I would see in the morning when I woke up was Matthew Broderick. And then I made the mistake when he was on the show telling him
Darcy
that, and he was like, how do you feel?
Josh
Oh, all right.
Darcy
He's like, summer.
Josh
Okay.
Darcy
I feel weird.
Sufi
He was young, too.
Josh
We come young guys just hanging out in my bedroom.
Darcy
That's right. I also like a lot of, you know, like, movie tickets. It just was a cool. It was kind of like a preteen teenager dream to just be, like, sticking things to the wall.
Sufi
Would you swap it around very often, or do you feel like, okay, yeah,
Darcy
yeah, that's important, I think. Yeah, it would be. Yeah. I was also, like, really into changing, like, the furniture in my room, which just means bed and dresser, I guess. But, you know, like, once a year or something, being like, today's the day, I'm gonna face the other way when I sleep.
Josh
Yeah, yeah.
Darcy
This'll be huge.
Sufi
MacKenzie's been pitching switching sides in the bed, and I'm sort of like, she's interesting. I don't know, because we used to be on different sides, but then, like, our last dog got old, and he was, like, wandering around on the side of the bed, and I was like, I'll go to that side so we can, like, you know, deal with him. And now based on sort of, like, nothing, we, like, switched one night when we were at a friend's house in New York, and she's like, I think it's better to be switched. But, like, I don't know. All her stuff's on that end table,
Josh
and Josh is Detroit. Do it. You're saying do it?
Darcy
Yeah, you can do it.
Josh
If she does do it, this is a question for you and Jason. When you travel.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
Do you stay on. Do you sleep on the same side as when you were at home?
Darcy
What we always end up doing is that Jason wants to be closer to the door. To the door of the hotel to stop a murderer from killing me.
Josh
Good man.
Darcy
Yeah, good man. So we always sort of end up doing that.
Josh
I sleep in the closet. Cause I'm worried about the murder.
Darcy
Maybe they won't find me here.
Josh
And I put a pile. Well, I put a pile of pillows on my side of the bed so it looks like someone's there. My goal. And that's close to the door. Cause my hope is they come in, just stab that a bunch and then leave.
Darcy
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sufi
You don't come out and get them over the head while they're.
Josh
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Darcy
Maybe Alexi does.
Josh
No, no, no. That gives away. You know, she's. She's got an eye mask. She barely knows that anybody's in we. Mine is she. Wherever we go. Alexi wants to be closer to the bathroom. So the side switches based on. On that first.
Darcy
I know that does seem important to like it'll be eight steps to go pee instead of 10 steps. It's like it doesn't matter.
Josh
It's. I think the crazy. I think it's a crazy choice for her sleeper than me. And to give me more things to bump into on the bathroom is a. It's very short sighted.
Darcy
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Josh
Did you. You mentioned your. So a lot of your. Of the Engle Freeds.
Darcy
There you go.
Josh
We're cousins. Were aunts and uncles a huge part of your upbringing?
Darcy
Yeah, huge part of. Yeah. And a lot of them lived in the Bay Area. I mean, just a huge part. Yeah. There was like, we. It's. I mean, just thinking under the umbrella of trips, I don't remember a ton of trips with them. We would, you know, like, one family lived in Washington and one family lived in Oregon. So we would do a Washington trip in Oregon.
Josh
Would there be times where the entire family would get, like, all meet at one house for a reunion of sorts?
Darcy
Definitely. Like most holidays, like, you know, Christmas or Thanksgiving or anything. Any excuse for us all to get together and. Yeah. And we'd often we'd like, look around and be like, this is everybody. We did it.
Josh
That's great.
Darcy
Yeah, it's cool. It's cool.
Sufi
Were you driving up there to Oregon and Washington?
Darcy
I feel like. I feel like it was like a. Okay, the answer is no. Cause I feel like we would do seven hours. I feel like we never did more than that.
Josh
Okay.
Sufi
That was your, like, was that a stated sort of limit?
Darcy
I always feel like my parents would say from the Bay Area to LA was seven hours. It's not seven hours. It's like five hours. But probably with four kids, it's seven hours.
Sufi
Yeah.
Darcy
So that was the big thing is like, we got seven hours in the car, guys. Like, get your coloring books ready or whatever it was. But I don't remember ever driving anywhere farther than that. Like, we flew to Arizona, we flew to Oregon.
Josh
Right.
Sufi
How were your car dynamics on a drive to la? On a sizable drive?
Darcy
Like, it was good. We very, like, I'm gonna say musical family. But what I mean is, like, really into music. Really into the same music. So we'd be like, put on Paul Simon. Woo.
Josh
Yeah, we were a big Paul Simon fan.
Darcy
Like, let's listen to the whole Traveling Wilbury's album or whatever.
Josh
Another one that.
Sufi
Yeah, you're throwing fastballs right now.
Josh
I think it just speaks to the quality of Those albums?
Darcy
Yes, totally, totally. And sometimes we'd be like, can we listen again? Yeah. A Fleetwood Mac album, I guess it would be. Which one? There's one where there's like kind of a horny song on it that I'd always be like, I'm sleeping. Like, where they're sort of making like ooh and oohs and ahs. What is it? I mean, I'm not gonna do them before you gu. So stop asking me to do them. But it was just like a little bit of a horny song. And I remember being really embarrassed by it. But, yeah, a lot of music. I remember listening to one. Is there a book called Prince Caspian or something like that?
Josh
C.S.
Darcy
lewis, maybe. Okay. I remember trying to listen to a book on tape or something and we were like, this is not working. We need music.
Sufi
Would you sing along if you were
Darcy
listening to these things, especially my dad and I, with just full voice, maybe harmony?
Sufi
And do you think you were locked in on the lyrics or were you sort of mumbling through it?
Darcy
Well, I think I was locked in on the lyrics. But do you guys find that albums like this, like maybe Graceland or something? When you listen to as a full adult, every once in a while you'll catch yourself singing something that you're like, well, that's certainly not the lyric. That's the lyric I thought it was for 30 years, but that's not what it is. Yeah, I have a bunch of those where maybe I'll hear Jason sing it or something. And I'm like, wait, what is it?
Josh
For our dad's 70th, Josh and I went home and we ended up back at the house, a party. And then it was just the four of us. And John Prine, the first John Prine album is like the most listened to album. And we were, we put it on and we were laughing so hard at how confident we were. We knew every word.
Darcy
Yes.
Josh
And how much, how much? Like just like full throated mumbling was in there.
Darcy
Yeah, a lot of mumbling. A lot of, yeah, Just kind of the, the vibe. The vibe. But I think I, I, this is another thing. I'm such a little like, like adult pleaser. I would love to, I would love it when, like, my dad would be like, wow, you really know this song.
Josh
Oh, yeah.
Darcy
God, you know every word. Oh, that sounds great, Dars. I'm like, oh, thanks, dad.
Josh
Yeah, yeah, I will say. And when they know lyrics, it's amazing how little they have to do for you to be like, God, you guys
Darcy
are crushing it absolute crushing it. Especially when it's, like, your music, I imagine. It's not like K pop Demon Hunters. No shade. But I mean, like, when it's something.
Josh
By the way, full credit. When they know that although they've got this awful thing now, like one of the K pop songs and it speaks to the popularity of the film, there's like a. Like, it's not like a recorded version, but, like the schools. It somehow permeated through society that there's a version where you, like, switch golden to toilet.
Sufi
And they all know.
Josh
So they all know, like, this, like, Weird Al version of golden toilet.
Darcy
Oh, that's great. Oh, my God. Weird Al. Get on it.
Josh
Get on it.
Darcy
It's now or never.
Josh
Yeah. Did you ever. So did. Even though you had a parents with, like, European roots, did you ever. As kids go, you flew to Europe.
Darcy
Great question. Because the answer is yes. Oh, but where. Okay, so we. I mean, okay, great question. You read my mind. We did one big, gigantic, gorgeous vacation. Vacation. This is when I was a friend about to be a. About to be a sophomore in high school. We went to England and France for three weeks. We did a week in London, a week in Bordeaux. Wow. We went to this, like. It's hard to explain, like, a camping. It's like a camping place with Airstreams. It's sort of like glamping. But this is so long ago that I don't know if what that was. And then it was pre glamping.
Sufi
It was just pre glamping.
Josh
It was preglampsia, I guess.
Darcy
Good job. That was really good. That was really good. Did you come up with preeclampsia before you. No. You said pre camping to set it up.
Josh
Yeah, yeah.
Darcy
Or pre clamping. You said pre clamping to set up.
Josh
I mean, don't. Don't. You know, don't. I did. No, no, keep it in. Keep it in. But, yeah, that's what I did. I came up with pre glampsia and then I laid in pre clamping and then made it sound like I just came up with it.
Darcy
This is inspiring, truly. Yeah, it was that. It was preglampsia. And then we did a week in the English countryside, a place called Tring, which is where we have family. So this is not our. Obviously like our Greek and Turkish family. This is our white British family. We have, like, a cousin, a very loved, beloved cousin who has six children and they live in England. And so they'd come to America a lot. And so this time we were like, let's go to you guys. And we had a great. A really special, amazing, like, bonding. It's kind of like before that, my. My older sister Lainey and I were like, I want to kill you. Sort of that vibe. I want to fucking kill you every day. And then after that, we were like best friends. It was like a very bonding trip for us.
Josh
If you could go back to one of those three locations, which one do you feel like you have the fondest memories of?
Darcy
The glamping in Bordeaux was incredible. It was amazing. Also. I was like, what would that age be? Like 15? There was a bunch of families there. We sort of became friends with these cool teenagers that were from England and they were older than us, and they took us under their wing and we got to, like, drink with them. And it was like, you know, fun, fun family time during the day. And then, because it was. I mean, we were underage as hell, but I guess drinking age is 18 there.
Josh
And it was just wine.
Darcy
Exactly.
Josh
Thirteen.
Darcy
Yeah, exactly. I remember it was something called a snake bite. That was the drink that I remember we would drink a lot.
Josh
Which I think is probably not bad.
Darcy
Yeah, that's bad. I think it was like when they try.
Josh
When they don't even bother to try to make the name sound good.
Sufi
Snake bite isn't a snake. I feel like a snake bite's a. Like a Guinness with, like.
Darcy
Yes.
Sufi
It's not a black and tan with a harp, but it's. It's like cider. I think it's cider and Guinness or something.
Darcy
In my mind, it's like cider and wine.
Josh
You know, this is way better than I thought. In my mind, a snake bite was like, like served one of those little fireball.
Darcy
Yeah, yeah. No, it's a little, like, classier than that, but I think. Yeah, it was. It was really fun. It was. It was like. I don't know, they were just cool. There was, you know, there was like maybe a little make out here or there. I don't know. I don't remember it. I don't remember every single scene.
Josh
Nobody left that. It's Bordeaux.
Darcy
It's Bordeaux. Bordeaux. Who can remember their first and last name? I can't.
Sufi
Were you traveling around or were you kind of just like, this is our glamping site and we're gonna just explore the.
Darcy
We did one amazing canoe day down the river, the one that we all know in Bordeaux, and it was stunning, gorgeous. Like, I would like to go back there. I feel like I appreciated it as a 15 year old, but you know, the way you don't really appreciate anything when you're a kid. Not really. Things like this, where you're like, now, I would just want to take in the view in a way that I don't know if I really fully appreciated. I think it was just like stunning views, you know?
Sufi
Seth, do you remember the French word for river?
Josh
Mitch Richmond. Mitch River, Mitch Riverman.
Darcy
Mitch.
Josh
River.
Darcy
Yes.
Josh
What is it?
Sufi
I think it's river.
Josh
Well, that's kind of 100%. Not that I'm surprised you can't remember the French word for river.
Sufi
I know. Me too.
Josh
I bet it might be. It might just be river. Yeah, it's a riviere.
Darcy
Riviere.
Josh
That's.
Sufi
That's where it comes from.
Darcy
Yeah. Yeah. But it was really great. It was an amazing trip. You know, like the London week was. It was just all great. It was just like a really. It was the kind of perfect. I think when you have four kids and the ages were probably like 16, 15, 12, and like four or whatever the math is there, that's stressful to bring them to a different country. It was like such a smooth, fun, wonderful trip. I think everybody has such fond memories of that trip.
Josh
You gotta put so much. I mean, you. You gotta put so much planning into it.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
So shout out to your parents for that. You gotta have good vibes. You have to like, you know, be like, hey, there's like a Zen ness. I think, to be a parent on vacation, which is. But also, I mean, again, I think if you have. You guys were probably pretty hungover from the sounds of things too. They had to put up with that.
Darcy
Yeah, but. Yeah, even that. Do you get hungover when you're 15?
Josh
Maybe not. You're just like. I just got. I've processed that so fast.
Darcy
Exactly, exactly, exactly. But that was a great one. And yeah, even I can even remember, like the. Yeah. Just we were kind of talking earlier about the vibes of the parents when traveling. And dad was like, like, you know, get organized, get there early. Kind of quiet, like, I don't want to talk about things, I just want you to follow my lead or whatever. And my mom was a little bit more, like, organized. But dad was just in charge when it came to, like, the travel part. I just remember the traveling to Europe and back was like, really smooth. It was all great. It was fun. Yeah, it was fun.
Josh
Well, I mean, shout out to your parents. I feel like they did a fantastic job.
Darcy
They really did.
Josh
I mean, we only know you, but they've raised at least one nice Person.
Darcy
Yeah, they're so great. Josh, did you meet my parents at the birthday show this year? No.
Sufi
No, I didn't, but. Shout out to your birthday show, by the way.
Josh
I went two years ago to Darcy. And were your parents, too, at the.
Darcy
They weren't there at the first show.
Josh
Okay, gotcha.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
Your birthday show is one of the most exceptional things.
Darcy
Oh, that's so nice.
Sufi
Your birthday is January 4th.
Darcy
Yeah.
Sufi
You are a fourther. You and your friends, the twin, Katie and Alison Crutchfield. Yeah, yeah. Both excellent musicians and singers. And you host this concert that. The first one was. The second one billed as a sweet 16 as well.
Darcy
Yeah, yeah.
Sufi
Okay, so it's sweet 16. So you have guests sing songs that were important to them when they were 16, and there's a little banter back and forth, and it's a lot of people, you know, and it's some musicians, it's some comedians, and people come out and explain.
Josh
It's so wonderful, you know, I can't remember the last time I've been at a concert. Josh is so good at concerts.
Darcy
I'm not good at all.
Josh
And I just had the best time because it was like every. A different person would come out. They talked about themselves at 16, then they'd sing a song. I would say I knew, you know, 60% of the songs.
Sufi
The other 40, I was like, you're banging everything.
Josh
And I was like, oh, I gotta. You know. And so you have so many friends who are talented musicians. You had an awesome band that you put together. This band would just, like, learn all these songs.
Darcy
Yeah, it was. I was kind of. Oh, you guys, this is. This is the sweetest thing. It's kind of like my favorite. My favorite day of the year. It's becoming the thing I, like, look forward to the most. It's really special. And then, you know, like, having all these fun actor comedian friends do songs, but then, like, Jeff Tweedy and, you know, I mean, it's really like. It's. I can't even. It kind of is overwhelming.
Sufi
Sam Richardson, to me, was a revelation this last year. Yeah.
Josh
What song did he do?
Sufi
Overkill.
Darcy
He did Overkill by Men at Work.
Sufi
And when there's a key change later and that song, when it's like, I Can get to Sleep and, like, just hits.
Darcy
It's so impressive.
Sufi
Yeah.
Darcy
The band was like. When he came and did the, like, you know, the rehearsal the day before, and he just kind of, like, had his hands in his pockets and just kind of like, yep, let's do it. And he did it. And the bands, all of their jaws just hit the floor like his. He was perfect. Because it doesn't really matter how good you sound in this show. It's like everybody sounds fun and good and they're all trying their best and it's pretty great, but nobody. Sam was like a professional singer. He sounded incredible. Yeah. Oh, Carrie Brownstein. Bringing the damn house down.
Sufi
Oh.
Josh
What did Carrie do?
Darcy
She did a Sonic Youth song. Cool thing.
Sufi
Oh, my God.
Darcy
Amazing. And just truly, like. It just was special. It was special. Anyway, anyway, all this is to say my parents were there and I wish you had met them, but maybe next year.
Sufi
Yeah, but you never were able to have a great birthday because it's so close to Christmas and New Year's and the holiday season. So now January 4th, you've reclaimed it.
Darcy
Exactly.
Sufi
And yeah, maybe there's gonna be another show next year. So check it out. If you're in la, you can also
Josh
check out Darcy and a couple of shows that are coming out very soon.
Darcy
Yeah.
Josh
Later this year. Five star weekend.
Darcy
Holy shit.
Josh
Incredible cast. Chloe Sevignier, Jennifer Garner, Regina Hall, Gemma Khan. And also Oliphant. Right? Yeah, Oliphant, Agent of chaos.
Darcy
Timothy Oliphant, an absolute agent of chaos. Yes.
Josh
It comes up a lot on the pod, I bet.
Darcy
Yeah. Yeah.
Josh
And then Sunday nights with our friend Will Forte.
Darcy
Yeah. The best that comes.
Josh
That's like imminent.
Darcy
That's out.
Josh
Oh, it's out. It's out. When this airs.
Sufi
By the time. This airs.
Darcy
By the time this airs.
Josh
I have not seen it yet because it's not officially out. And I have to go through the awkward thing that happens every time a Will Forte show comes out, which is it's the only comedies my wife will watch because he is her favorite comedian. And so I'm very excited. I love that we will immediately be binging Sunday nights on Hulu.
Darcy
Great.
Josh
I'm happy. And we didn't get to it, but you shot it in Australia, so you've had some real trips.
Darcy
Yeah. I'll come back again.
Josh
Josh is gonna take you through our speed round. Darcy.
Sufi
All right, here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational?
Darcy
Hmm. I think relaxing.
Sufi
What is your favorite means?
Darcy
But I love adventurous.
Sufi
Sure. Okay. What is your favorite means of transportation?
Darcy
I love. I love a road trip. I love to drive.
Josh
Love it.
Sufi
Great. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a trip with?
Darcy
There is one family that just popped into my head, and I have to honor my truth. The Huxtables.
Josh
Great. You honor your train.
Sufi
You know what?
Josh
A lot of people would have backed off that in 2026.
Sufi
And, yeah, obviously it's not him.
Josh
That's a different guy.
Darcy
That is a different.
Josh
That's a different guy.
Darcy
It's a whole family. It's a whole family. That family is great. That is a great family. That is a great family, and you cannot take that away from me.
Sufi
If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would at this,
Darcy
Jason Grant Cardon.
Josh
Yeah.
Darcy
Love that dude. Yeah.
Sufi
What is your dream destination for a family vacation?
Darcy
Hawaii. I want to go there with my whole family. We've kind of talked about it for years. Yeah, we got to do that.
Sufi
You are from Danville, California. If you had to get more families to come visit Danville, what would you tell them?
Darcy
I'd say, come to Danville. It's. It's green as hell. It's green as Ireland. The hills are beautiful. And go to Domenico's Deli and get a turkey sandwich every day and you'll be happy. It'll be worth the trip.
Josh
Great. The specificity will be appreciated.
Darcy
Yeah.
Sufi
And then Seth has our final questions.
Josh
Darcy, have you been to the Grand Canyon?
Darcy
I have.
Josh
And was it worth it?
Darcy
A few times. It is worth it.
Josh
Great.
Darcy
Seth. Okay.
Josh
Oh, no.
Darcy
Have you gone yet?
Josh
Yeah, we looked over the side.
Darcy
Okay. Wait, did I. Is that since the podcast started?
Josh
Yeah, we went. My friend burned me, and we had our fantasy football draft there, so I had to go.
Darcy
Great. And did you looking over the side? Were you. Were you. What? How do you feel about looked?
Josh
Everything was exactly what I had pictured in my head.
Darcy
Yeah. Okay. God damn it.
Josh
So it has to, like. I think it just, like, look, if it just opened, yeah. I think I'd be blown away, but I think due to the fact that it's just like, it's been around too far. It's like a little bit like if somebody. You know what I mean? Like, you want to see a movie the week it comes out. Otherwise, everybody talks about how awesome it is, and by the time you see it, you're like, oh, okay.
Darcy
Can I tell you a cute little Grand Canyon story? I've been a few times, but the last time I went was during the pandemic. Jason and I went on an amazing, incredible cross country RV trip. And, you know, during COVID it was like the perfect way to get out and. And not Stay at hotels and not have to be around anybody. But anyway, we also. Two friends who you guys know, Beck Bennett and Jesse Hodges, were also doing a big road trip as well. And because the damn world was our oyster and time meant nothing, they were. They were like, we think we're gonna go to the Grand Canyon in, like, two days. And we just, like, turned around wherever we were, and we were like, if we do. Yeah. We would make it at the same time. So we met at the Grand Canyon. We hadn't. We hadn't, like, been near each other in so long because of COVID We. One night we watched the sunrise. We went back to our little RVs, slept in our RVs. And then. Wait. I said one night we watched the sunrise. Sunset. The next day, we watched the sunrise. We had our dogs with us. It was like, the most. It was one of my favorite Covid memories. It was really a cute little. It was worth it. So to speak. Seth. It was worth it.
Sufi
Yeah.
Josh
That's fantastic. All right. Well, you didn't convince me, but I was so proud of how hard you tried. It's so great to see you, Darcy. You're the best.
Darcy
I adore you guys. Thanks for having me.
Josh
We love you. Love, love, love you, and we'll talk to you soon. Give our love to Jason.
Darcy
I will. Bye, Louise.
Narrator
Mom met dad in junior high Darcy to become a Bride thanks to Mr. Toad's wild ride She's a Disney adult Took a trip down Phoenix way Grand grandma loved those Oakland days Can Seiko ate a dozen eggs McGuire in the
Sufi
tub
Narrator
Houseboat trips out on Lake Shasta Slept outside under the stars Swim and barbecue and play some car
Sufi
and her
Narrator
brother fell asleep in the boat nook but his legs, they stuck out and his feet cooked Saw the English countryside and Bordeaux for glamping nights British teens and snake bites Little making now. Run TMC warriors corkboard kianas and vetters Jason stops the murderers at least that's
Darcy
the plan
Narrator
Grandfather made up the last name no one can pronounce Erican and no one knows what he was running from
Josh
More than seven hours driving was
Narrator
deemed too long Fleetwood Mac made it weird with the horny sound Great memories of times she had sang full throating with her dad like to help him with the bags she was his best son.
Darcy
Sam.
Hosts: Seth Meyers & Josh Meyers
Guest: D'Arcy Carden
This episode welcomes actor and comedian D’Arcy Carden (The Good Place, Barry) to share memories of her vibrant childhood, unforgettable family vacations, and a legendary glamping trip in Bordeaux. The Meyers brothers and D’Arcy trade stories of growing up in big families, accidental sunburns, and encountering baseball legends. Stories range from Bay Area road trips to star-studded European adventures, all told with warmth, wit, and the silly, affectionate banter that defines the Meyers Brothers’ style.
Casual, self-effacing, and family-centric. D’Arcy and the Meyers freely tease each other, lean into nostalgia, embrace the messiness and sweetness of real families, and frequently break out into laughter and quick-witted asides.
This episode is a joyful ride through the childhood and travels of D’Arcy Carden—punctuated by sibling humor, tales of accidental adventure, and an appreciation for family quirks. Whether she's glamping in Bordeaux, canoeing down French rivers, or accidentally running into Mark McGwire in a hotel hot tub, D’Arcy’s stories are relatable, funny, and full of heart—a perfect fit for fans of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers.
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