JOSH HOMME Talked to Truckers on Walkie Talkies

Summary

Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers: Episode Featuring Josh Homme

Podcast Information:

• Title: Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers
• Hosts: Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers
• Episode: JOSH HOMME Talked to Truckers on Walkie Talkies
• Release Date: August 5, 2025

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Introduction: Welcoming Stories and Family Anecdotes (00:01 - 05:01)

The episode kicks off with Seth and Josh Meyers engaging in light-hearted banter about home improvement mishaps. Sufi shares a relatable story about attempting to install a new ceiling fan, only to realize the screws were misaligned:

Sufi (00:36): "I thought the screws aligned perfectly, but they were a half inch off."

Scott Rollins chimes in with a humorous anecdote about a night at a friend's lake house, highlighting the universal challenges of dealing with ceiling fans:

Scott (02:42): "If you wanted to turn on a ceiling fan, I'd be a little disappointed if I looked up and it was just like three loose little wriggly wires."

Introducing Josh Homme and His Influences (05:01 - 18:39)

The conversation transitions to introducing Josh Homme, the renowned musician and guest of the episode. Seth and Josh delve into Josh's family background, emphasizing the pivotal role his grandparents played in shaping his upbringing. Derek, Josh's brother, reminisces about their grandparents, Captain Cap and Camille, highlighting their unique personalities and the lasting impact they had:

Derek (10:53): "She was the first woman to fly a plane in North Dakota... She smoked ciggies with plastic filters, which just made the diff."

The Meyers brothers explore the influence of family traditions and memories, such as annual summer trips to Lake Pend Oreille in Idaho. Derek shares vivid memories of these trips, describing the pristine lake used for submarine testing and the camaraderie among family members:

Derek (19:30): "Every year, from the time I was zero till I was about 18, we'd get out of school, get picked up, and take the drive from Coachella Valley to Sandpoint."

Family Trips and Grandparents' Legacy (18:39 - 21:15)

Derek elaborates on the dynamics of these family trips, mentioning the vehicles used and the playful interactions with others, including truckers on walkie-talkies. He recounts humorous encounters, such as unintentionally communicating with truckers and the resulting confusion:

Derek (27:26): "Which... any trucker that I'm on the same channel."

These stories underscore the blend of adventure and humor that characterized their family vacations, highlighting the deep bond and shared experiences that left lasting impressions on the family members.

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Traveling with Kids and Independence Building (26:24 - 46:24)

Post-advertisements, the discussion resumes with Seth and Josh exploring the challenges and joys of traveling with children. Derek shares his philosophy on fostering independence in his kids through solo travel experiences, such as allowing them to fly alone:

Derek (47:56): "It's such a safe, cheap way to gain some independence."

He reflects on the balance between ensuring safety and promoting self-reliance, discussing how these experiences have built confidence in his children. The conversation also touches on the complexities of merging touring life with family vacations, emphasizing the different rhythms and expectations:

Derek (39:12): "I found it to be the wrong idea... it's better to tour and then do it."

Speed Round and Light-Hearted Moments (46:24 - End)

The episode concludes with a fun speed round where Seth and Sufi pose quick-fire questions to Derek. Highlights include:

• Ideal Vacation:

  Derek: "Adventurous."

• Favorite Transportation:

  Derek: "Boat. Not cruise ship."

• Dream Vacation Family:

  Derek: "The Adams family."

These responses showcase Derek's playful side and deepen the listener's understanding of his personality and preferences.

Additionally, humorous exchanges about nostalgic food items like Velveeta and Easy Cheese add levity to the conversation:

Sufi (56:23): "I had a real passion for old Easy Cheese."

Conclusion: Reflections on Family and Travel (End)

As the episode wraps up, Seth and Josh express their appreciation for Derek's stories and the opportunity to reminisce about cherished family memories. The heartfelt discussion emphasizes the importance of family bonds and the enduring impact of shared experiences during family trips.

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Notable Quotes:

• Sufi (00:36): "I thought the screws aligned perfectly, but they were a half inch off."
• Scott (02:42): "If you wanted to turn on a ceiling fan, I'd be a little disappointed if I looked up and it was just like three loose little wriggly wires."
• Derek (10:53): "She was the first woman to fly a plane in North Dakota... She smoked ciggies with plastic filters, which just made the diff."
• Derek (27:26): "Which... any trucker that I'm on the same channel."
• Derek (47:56): "It's such a safe, cheap way to gain some independence."
• Derek (39:12): "I found it to be the wrong idea... it's better to tour and then do it."
• Derek (56:23): "I had a real passion for old Easy Cheese."

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This episode of Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers offers a heartfelt and humorous exploration of family dynamics, cherished memories, and the evolving nature of travel with loved ones. Whether reminiscing about childhood adventures or navigating the complexities of modern family vacations, Seth and Josh provide listeners with relatable stories and genuine insights into the joys and challenges of family life.

Transcript

[Sufi]

Hi, Sufi, how are you? I'm good. I've got, got. My father in law arrived late last night. Not late last night, 6 o'. Clock. So he is enjoying the, the redone guest room. Yeah. Which I thought he's like, he's very handy, Scott Rollins. And I was like, I'm gonna paint this room. You know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know, install a new ceiling fan. And the ceiling fan's really thrown me off.

[Scott]

Were you gonna actually try to do that by yourself? Yeah. Wow. How far into the ceiling fan process did you get?

[Sufi]

Well, there's like this mounting bracket that comes with it. And I took the old ceiling fan off and I thought that the screws aligned perfectly. So I was gonna be able to use the sort of existing, I guess, junction box that's inside in the ceiling, but they're a half inch off. So the screws would be coming sort of in at an angle towards things that want to go straight up. So I did. There's something that's really nice about having Scott Rollins here now because I. Oh.

[Scott]

Is he going to do it for you?

[Sufi]

Well, we're going to talk about it and he's going to know what I should do.

[Scott]

Got it. Is there currently like an exposed, like gearbox above his head?

[Sufi]

Yeah, there are three wires coming out of the ceiling, but they're not above his head. They're sort of.

[Scott]

Right.

[Sufi]

But if I were to hang something and it were to fall, it would fall on his legs.

[Scott]

Yeah. Do you know the famous story about me and our friend Derek in the ceiling fan? No. We were, we were staying at our friend Claire's lake house and there was an attic with the ceiling fan and it was so hot. It was like summer, you know, Midwestern summer. Just brutally, brutally hot. Yeah. And anyway, we wake up after like this sweaty night's sleep and we're like getting ready, face the day and Derek says, hey, in the middle of the night last night, did you stick your hand in the ceiling fan? And he said that my response was no, but I had a dream. I did. I like slept, walked, stood on my bed and like put my hand in a ceiling fan. It was like, I will say that if you, if it was a hot night and I wanted to turn on a ceiling fan, I'd be a little disappointed if I looked up and it was just like three loose little wriggly wires.

[Sufi]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, we've got. There's good AC that comes in there.

[Scott]

Yeah, that's.

[Sufi]

But it's, it's Very nice in there. We still haven't hung anything on the walls, so part of it's like, oh, this is a very sort of clean, minimalist room right now. But yeah, we're gonna. We'll clutter it up soon enough.

[Scott]

You're a very nice host. How long do you have, Scott?

[Sufi]

About six days.

[Scott]

Great.

[Sufi]

Yeah. So, yeah, we've got. I don't know exactly what's going to be on the itinerary. He's been going back and forth to a lot of places, been doing a lot of work, and I think it's just going to be a nice time to relax.

[Scott]

Good, good, good.

[Sufi]

Enjoy some good couch time, some good LA time.

[Scott]

I can't get my kids out of the water. It's a very nice summer for that.

[Sufi]

Oh, yeah.

[Scott]

Ocean. They're having a real ocean forward summer.

[Sufi]

How do they feel about.

[Scott]

Put.

[Sufi]

Getting sunscreen put on them?

[Scott]

You know what they're willing to. They. They. It's part of their routine.

[Sufi]

They endure it.

[Scott]

They endure it. Yeah.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Scott]

And I will say again, you know how I hate to compliment her, but Alexi. Alexi has done this thing where I. Every time I do it, they're like, too rough. Too rough. You know, and she has come up with a thing where she puts it on her hands and they bring their faces over and she just goes and.

[Sufi]

Like, does in it. I can't believe it.

[Scott]

Yeah. So much rougher than I would ever do it. And because she's made a game of it, they just love it.

[Sufi]

That's very similar to dad with the buckets of water when we were in the tub, when we were like dirt.

[Scott]

Ball number one and dirt ball number two.

[Sufi]

Yeah. Which was a game. And so you'd get all the shampoo and soap on you. And then he, like a. Like a warplane. He would pick up a bucket of water.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Sufi]

And he would say, dirt ball number one and would just like crush you with a bucket full of water. And.

[Scott]

Yeah, he cleaned us. He cleaned us the way you would clean a prison floor after someone had been shiv. Just like.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Scott]

Just sloshing it.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Scott]

And. And it was not often that dad was in charge of bath time, but, you know, as. As memorable.

[Sufi]

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

[Scott]

He. He was doing a thing that was making Addie laugh so hard when he was visiting, which is Addie would go put her baby in the other room and then she doesn't have a baby.

[Sufi]

It's like. It's a doll.

[Scott]

It's a baby doll. Yes. Thank you. Most people were, what it's not possible. So put your baby doll in the other room, Nolan, if you're dying to know his name. And. And then she would come back and she would tell Punky that he had to go pick Nolan up at school, but with a big smile on her face. And then Punky would go, and from the other room, you couldn't hear him. I'm sorry. You could hear him but not see him. He would pretend like Nolan was running away from him. And he's like, nolan, come back here, Nolan. And Addie would laugh so hard, and then dad would throw Nolan into the room, like, first. Like, he's like, yeah, don't get away from me, Nolan. No. And we just chuck Nolan. And she loved it. Oh, that's very good.

[Sufi]

That's great that she wasn't upset that Nolan was getting thrown around.

[Scott]

Yeah. How did.

[Sufi]

Nolan strikes me just. I mean, it's a great name. It's a lovely, fine, good name, but strikes me as a strange name for a baby doll. How did that come about?

[Scott]

You're gonna hear the key and. Sorry. Yeah, a key and a lock click. She goes to school and one of her classmates has a baby named Nolan. So she literally would see a real life baby Nolan, and she's like, I gotta get me one of those.

[Sufi]

Oh, gotcha. Yeah, gotcha.

[Scott]

So it's a big deal. Yeah. The other day, I don't know if I told you this, but I went in, I had Addie and Axel. Ash sleeps on the lower bunk. I'm gonna get it wrong. I'm gonna have to ask the kids because they remember, but I think this is. We thought Ash was asleep, and so we were being really quiet, the three of us, because we had to get something. Axel wanted to show us something stupid and Ash was awake. And then Ash wanted to jump up and scare us. And so he yelled, sugar Booger. But then when he jumped up, he slammed his head on the top bunk. So he was like, Sugar bugga punk. And there was this beat. And then all at once, me and Addie and Axel started laughing so hard that Ash turned and started laughing so hard. Uh huh. And so now, like, Sugar Booger is like, already entered lexicon. Is like what you say when you bang your head on something.

[Sufi]

Oh, yeah. Which is a great response. It's very Yosemite Sam almost.

[Scott]

Oh, yeah, it's the best. And. And yeah, Ax was like. Because I, you know, I. I'm not with them during the week because I'm doing the show and then, you know, I get the Recap of the week. And ax is like, and then I shook a booger in my head into the walk. Makes it a lot less traumatic when it's a sugar booger. We got a real. We got a real rock and roller on the show today.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Sufi]

It makes me feel cooler that we can have someone like Josh Homme on.

[Scott]

Yeah. And he's got some real. You know, every now and then someone comes and they have like a. A real memorable dad or a memorable mom or a memorable sibling. But like, Josh's grandparents are sort of the stars of his family trips episode.

[Sufi]

Yeah. And Queens of the Stone Age. Just been doing it for a while now.

[Scott]

And he was a death metal. Another kickass side project.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Scott]

Just in general. A cool dude.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Scott]

So not the coolest Josh I know, though. I know you were fishing for.

[Sufi]

Oh, you think I'm cooler than Josh Homme?

[Scott]

No, Josh Charles is cooler than Josh. All right, poshy, let's do it. All right.

[Josh Homme]

Family trips with the Mice Brothers. Family chips with the mind.

[Scott]

Here we go. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Sufi]

Must have had him, trick.

[Derek]

Tricked ya.

[Scott]

You wanted to make sure.

[Sufi]

Pulled the rug right out from under us.

[Derek]

Tricked ya. Hi, boys.

[Sufi]

How's it going?

[Scott]

Great to see you, Josh.

[Derek]

It's good to see you too, buddy. Long time.

[Scott]

I'm very excited about the nautical theme behind you.

[Derek]

Oh, this is. That's My grandma painted that. That was my grandparents. This reminds me of my buddy who's no longer here. And I just love. And I just kind of. I just love stuff like that.

[Sufi]

Yeah. Josh is showing us a model of a ship. A three masted ship.

[Scott]

But, like, with the actual, like the string work on the masts is what makes it impressive. Yeah.

[Derek]

I mean, this is what I found out is that back in the day when you wanted to sell a ship like this, you couldn't just drag it to. From Baltimore to. So people would take these scale models and say, this is it, babe. This is the showroom floor. That's how you sold your ships.

[Scott]

Of that, by the way, makes total sense. And I love that. I thought. No, people with ships just wanted to make little ones too.

[Derek]

Yeah. It's a real reminder.

[Scott]

Nobody had hobbies back then.

[Derek]

You could. There was not. Yeah. No one could afford to have hobbies.

[Scott]

Everything you think was a hobby is like, no, man. That was me trying to sell a big old.

[Derek]

Yeah. You try selling a boat at this time of year.

[Scott]

Yeah. Like, it's so funny. Just word of mouth being like, no.

[Sufi]

It's like.

[Scott]

Yeah. It's like, well, picture A boat. That's what it looks like.

[Derek]

Yeah. And it's like, kind of like that one, but no. Oh, yeah. Like, you see the need for the ship, you know, the little model also.

[Scott]

I mean. Well, let's just get right into it, because there's a beautiful painting by your grandmother. Was your grandmother an artist?

[Derek]

No.

[Scott]

Okay.

[Derek]

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. She was actually such a maverick. I was so close with my grandparents and that. She was a painter. She was the first woman to fly a plane in North Dakota. She smoked ciggies, but with them plastic filters, which are like. It just made the diff.

[Scott]

You know, it's so funny because the plastic filters, you almost feel like. Based on what safety was back in the day, it's like, yeah, you can't fly a plane unless you have the little plastic filter. It's not safe.

[Derek]

And, you know, talking and painting with that, you know, I. I remember she had. She painted in the garage. And I remember being really young, just wearing jean shorts, which was a swimsuit in the desert. That's. And nothing else. And watching her finish a painting and put the other one down and just start on the next one, you know, with the siggy and the thing and the. Are you still back there, Josh?

[Sufi]

Sort of.

[Derek]

You realize, Hunter. Hunter Thompson.

[Sufi]

If the cigarette's not done, then you can move on to another painting.

[Derek]

Yeah. And everyone sounds like Hunter Thompson.

[Scott]

Yeah. I mean, that is who I think when I think of the plastic. It is funny how. How long. How did she live? A long life.

[Derek]

A long, full life for our family. Yes.

[Scott]

She.

[Derek]

You know, we've had a lot of people in their 60s go, hey. And then just face down and like. And just slide to a stop.

[Scott]

And you just never. You never found out what they were saying. Hey. About. That's the most.

[Derek]

Yeah. They're like, hey, kid. It's. You know, I think it's more like. Like that hillbilly thing. Like, watch this. And you just fall and slide to. Hey, look at this.

[Sufi]

It's good to have a witness.

[Derek]

Yeah. Can I get one?

[Scott]

Yeah. So she. So she made it a little bit longer than that, though. She didn't die with one final hay.

[Derek]

Yeah, she. It wasn't a final hay. She made it to. I believe it was 79.

[Scott]

Okay.

[Derek]

You know, which I think, you know, in the 80s was pretty good.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Scott]

If you're. If you're sucking nicotine through plastic, I feel like that's not a bad number.

[Derek]

Yeah.

[Scott]

That number to hit. Are you. And so you said. Were you close with both your grandparents?

[Derek]

Oh, they were my idols. I. You know, like, my grandpa wore an ascot or like a scarf, but didn't look like a douche. He looked.

[Scott]

That is a needle to thread, man.

[Derek]

Yeah, it's a tough one. They were. They were expert horsemen, you know, and so one of my early memories is like, seeing the head of a horse, and I'd hear my grandpa say, point it out. And I'd point at something in the desert, and he would shoot it from the horse.

[Sufi]

Wow. Were you on the back of that horse or on a different horse?

[Derek]

I was on the front. I was being held, you know, with like a. Like a BB gun or a pellet gun. Like this, you know, walking slow. And it was like. Yeah. I thought my grandpa was John Wayne till I was like, nine.

[Scott]

Just lay in a. I mean, by the way, he might have been more authentic than John Wayne. That dude was just an actor.

[Derek]

Yeah, true. Fair enough. Yeah.

[Scott]

Now I'm picturing him just sort of laying a rifle barrel over your shoulder while you're in front of him on a horse.

[Derek]

Yeah. Just hot barrel, which sounds a little sexier than I'm intending it.

[Scott]

Yeah. That's what your ma. That's what your grandmother called the plastic filter. That was her hot barrel.

[Derek]

Hot barrel. It's a family full of hot barrelers.

[Scott]

So they're. They were North Dakota people, but that's not where you grew up.

[Derek]

Well, they moved from North Dakota to. To Palm Desert.

[Scott]

Gotcha. And then when they moved, Palm Desert must have been a. Just a completely. I don't know. I would imagine hardly anybody was there.

[Derek]

It was seven people. Yeah.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

The lines were not drawn so you could color wherever you liked, you know?

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Sufi]

So was Palm Springs, like the big city, and then you were adjacent.

[Derek]

Yeah, I mean, Palm Desert and Rancho Mirage. For any locals out there, those lines were not drawn yet. And in fact, my grandpa, whose nickname was Captain Cap, we weren't allowed to call them Grandma and Grandpa. It was Cap and Camille. Right. So Cap had this kind of ranch. And by ranch, I just mean someone drew lines around a big piece of dirt.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

They weren't ranching anything in particular. And he had to decide whether to go with Palm Desert or Rancho Mirage. And the only street came that. That came right to the entrance of this ranch was. Was essentially in Rancho Mirage. And at the last minute, he chose Palm Desert. Whoever he chose had access to the 10 freeway, so. Right. So this. That's. I. No one knows what I'm talking about, but at the last minute, he chose and Ranch Mirage promptly Put a gate right over his only entrance to his house. I love petty civic squabbles. Oh, my gosh.

[Scott]

Yes. And what? Cap. What? Why? What is cap a nickname for? Like, how do you earn a nickname that cool?

[Derek]

It was a captain. He was a, he was a captain in the Marine Air Corps.

[Sufi]

Oh, yeah, that'll do it.

[Derek]

And, and he was, he was, he was, he was. I, I really, I, I, I love them so much. I and I, I love them so much I haven't tattooed over each nipple.

[Scott]

There you go.

[Derek]

It's, it's on each hand.

[Scott]

That's great. Oh, that's way better.

[Derek]

Um, yeah. And he was, he was sort of, I wouldn't say reluctantly, but he was always chosen to be the captain of like the basketball team or this football. And he was just a naturally gifted athlete. I, I, as you can tell, I very much looked up to them, you know.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Scott]

We had two sets of grandparents. One were very much Grandma and grandpa, and then the other one were Frank and Addie. They were real first name people and it was the same thing. I think they just weren't ready to be old enough to be grandparents.

[Derek]

Okay, so I have a question though. Frank and Addie, were they more sort of like, hey, were they the sort of more vivacious?

[Scott]

Yeah, like, Frank was like, had a boat and often didn't have a shirt off and like, probably. Although now I'm realizing, like, I'm the age Frank was when I met him.

[Derek]

Right.

[Scott]

But he was like, he was like at that, like, wiry old man, New England strength.

[Derek]

Yeah.

[Scott]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Sufi]

Addie was always like, beautifully dressed. She was an interior decorator. She was like spread out on her chaise lounge and was, yeah.

[Derek]

Way to throw a chaise. That was a hard seat out there.

[Sufi]

Yeah. I mean, it was, it was her signature sort of. That's where you she existed.

[Derek]

I, yeah, there's something very Shea about a chaise. You know, it's just lounged, sprawled out. My cap and Camille were very fashionable, you know.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

There was a riding club in Palm Springs and so every once in a while they'd end up riding. It'd be like Jimmy Stewart would, they'd have dinner at their house. I was too young for that section of that, but. And I think because they were relatively non plussed, you know, a lot of people would escape to Palm Springs at that time and, you know, you end up riding with someone and it's like, yeah, come to the house, have a scotch. Come on over, you know.

[Sufi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Scott]

Did you were Cap And Camille, your dad's side or your mom's side?

[Derek]

They're homies. Yeah, they're my dad's side. Gotcha. And that's who I took all these summer trips with. And.

[Scott]

Gotcha. And so where were the summer trips?

[Derek]

60 miles from Canada in the panhandle of northern Idaho.

[Scott]

Ooh. Gotcha.

[Derek]

Yeah. At a place called Lake Pend Oreille.

[Scott]

And so this was. Is this something that Cap and Camille had established before they moved to Palm Desert?

[Derek]

This. My aunt. My aunt lived there. And. And it's this lake that's. It's about 900ft deep. And they used to test submarines there. The only sort of freshwater submarine testing zone in America. But it's a really pristine lake. It's really gorgeous. And so every year, from the time I was zero till I was about 18, we'd get out of school, get picked up, and take the drive from Coachella Valley to Sandpoint.

[Scott]

That can't be a quick drive.

[Derek]

It's not. But you know, and at the time, I remember sort of like protesting as you get older.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

You know, three months in the woods on a lake, you're complaining. You know, I never played baseball. I never saw my friend, what the hell's going on around here?

[Sufi]

Right.

[Derek]

You know, especially. You arrived the night before school starts again.

[Scott]

It was like, oh, that was so. They were just like. It was, we're. We're gone until the state demands our children are back. Pretty much.

[Derek]

Yeah. Well, and I would complain, my brother would protest, and my dad would always be like, write it down and send it to me. Give it to me.

[Scott]

You got plenty of time to write. You're not playing baseball. Where did your brother. Where did your brother land? Older or younger?

[Derek]

He's older, but he looks younger. I don't want to talk about it.

[Sufi]

It's that rock and roll lifestyle. It's going to get you.

[Derek]

No, I mean preserved in alcohol is preserved.

[Sufi]

What were you guys driving to get up to Idaho?

[Derek]

You know, there was a station wagon at one point with that jump seat in the back where you're facing the back. Traffic.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Derek]

Sort of like trying to engage with traffic and truckers and. But at one point, it went to a Toyota Vanagon. Vanagon was a. Was a van that was a four cylinder engine. And so you never really went anywhere. You know, it had a top cruising speed of 37 miles an hour.

[Scott]

Yeah. That's not great, especially for a long drive. That's really bad.

[Sufi]

Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our.

[Scott]

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[Sufi]

Hey, Sufi.

[Scott]

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[Sufi]

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[Scott]

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[Sufi]

Hey, Sufi.

[Scott]

You know, sometimes you just need something, you know, in the middle of the afternoon just to get you over the hump, you know? Yeah. Or just maybe it's the end of the day and you've gotten over the hump, but now you just want something that's going to give a little kick to your evening, make it a little bit more enjoyable.

[Sufi]

Yeah, well, that's where soul can help.

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[Scott]

Here we go, so you got an older brother close in age? How close did you say?

[Derek]

Two years.

[Scott]

Okay, gotcha.

[Derek]

But again, he looks about six years younger.

[Scott]

Gotcha. Where is he now?

[Derek]

He's in Utah. Him and his.

[Scott]

Yeah, well, that's.

[Derek]

Him and his hobby. Him and his hobby.

[Scott]

Nobody ages. Nobody ages in Utah.

[Derek]

Yeah, it's. Him and his hobby are, you know, skiing and just kind of killing it. It's that. That. That whole Tink thing. Two incomes, no kids, you know.

[Scott]

Oh, yeah, man, that's heavy.

[Derek]

Oh, my God. I'm like, where are you? They're like, we're in Greece on a boat. And I'm like, fuck, of course you are. What am I. What am I doing?

[Scott]

Yeah. So when you would go up to Idaho, how many people was it? Was it your. Your nuclear family and then plus the grandparents, or was it more than that?

[Derek]

Plus the grandparents and, you know, sort of trailing each other. We had walkie talkies.

[Scott]

Oh, great.

[Derek]

Which. Well, I think it was great for us, you know, my brother Jason and I. But I think in general, it was probably annoying for the other people.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

And any trucker that. I'm on the same channel.

[Scott]

Oh, right. I didn't. Yeah, I didn't even think about that part. I was just thinking, if my kids were in another car, the last thing I would want was, like, to have to listen to them.

[Derek]

It's the early iPad.

[Scott]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Derek]

You know where you keep saying, come back, Rubber Ducky.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

To anyone desperate. This is Big Bear. This is Big Bear. Come back, rubber Ducky. You know?

[Scott]

Oh, man. Yeah, I guess that's like a little bit of, like, I remember, like, you know, when you pull. You know, trying to get a trucker to pull a horn was always really an exceptional moment. But having to have a conversation with them seems unfair to the truck, especially.

[Derek]

When you're just unsure. Like, I was doing this because, you know, at times in my life, not knowing what the hell this was.

[Scott]

Right, right.

[Derek]

You know, I'm just there. I'll never forget there was one time we. This kind of group of motorcycles, you know, and they were Hell's Angels. They kind of pulled up, you know, were passing us, you know, getting stuck sort of next to us, and I'm going like this. And it was asking for the horn.

[Scott]

Indeed. Yeah.

[Derek]

And it was the first time I was ever flashed.

[Scott]

Well, that worked.

[Derek]

It wasn't a. It wasn't a big biker. It was a girl on the back. And I was like, oh, my God, what is this? What does this mean?

[Scott]

Yeah, I Mean the rest of your life. Were you so disappointed when it was just a truck horn?

[Derek]

No, I went everywhere, I went into every restaurant just like, what are you gonna have, kid? And I was like, I'll have the chicken breast.

[Scott]

Did. Was your. I mean, I would imagine. Was your dad close with his parents? It seems like he followed them there for a reason. Probably.

[Derek]

We just, we. We were always that six pack, you know, Always so good. Always. Yeah.

[Sufi]

And your mom was on board with it?

[Derek]

Oh, yeah. My mom and my grandma were besties, you know.

[Scott]

Great, great, great.

[Derek]

Yeah, it was a tight little clan.

[Sufi]

Did your aunt from Lake Pend Oreille, did she have kids or a family or do you have cousins that you'd hang with?

[Derek]

Had two cousins, the two girls, you know, and roughly the same age.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Derek]

You know, and as I said, like there were in your teen years, I did a lot of rock kicking with my hands in my pockets.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

But I think much like the Coachella Valley, where there was really nowhere, no one and not a lot to do. And in the woods in northern Idaho, also not a ton to do. But I think of the guy who. I can't remember his name. The guy who was the creator of Calvin and Hobbes. He did this.

[Scott]

Bill Waterson built.

[Derek]

Yes, sure. I agree with that.

[Scott]

Great.

[Sufi]

Me too.

[Derek]

He did this book called the Gift of Nothing where, you know, Hobbes says, it's your birthday, what do you want? And Calvin says, nothing. And so he goes searching everywhere for nothing, you know, and at the end, you know, he's looking high and low. And at the end he gives him this present, he opens it up and there's nothing in there. And he says, oh. He hugs him and says, that's just what I was asking for, you know. And I think of the gift of nothing, of time and the, you know, when there's no fun, you make your own fun, you know. And so I think it was a gift.

[Scott]

Now, I have a couple of questions. One by. You were talking about how as a teenager you get away, you're away from your friends, but you also were very early to music. So you're kind of. Is it safe to say you're like a rock and roll kid by your mid teens who's now has to go like to the woods?

[Derek]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Scott]

Must be even harder for a rock for a rocker to kick rocks? That just doesn't seem fair at all.

[Derek]

It's a very linear path that is.

[Scott]

Do you. Is it a. Was music though part of your time alone? Were you like bringing any Like a guitar to, like.

[Derek]

Yeah, absolutely. I started playing around nine, and that became the answer to what do I do? What do I do?

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Derek]

And. And interestingly enough, or I suppose depends on what you think. But, you know, walking out into the woods, even I started smoking ciggies at like 13 years old. So I was like, where do I go to do this thing that I'm not supposed to do? Going out in the woods, having a ciggy and watching the smoke go through the. Like, the sunlight in the trees, while, man, I still played with toys at 13 with a Siggy, you know, like. Like action figures going, like, play with them going, they're on fire. Lighting them on fire. Be like, yeah. And then picking up a guitar and sort of serenading this group of mostly burned, you know, action figures. And. But as I say, in hindsight, I think playing alone in the woods sounds like the beginning to a horror movie. But it was actually really. It was spitching.

[Scott]

It definitely seems like you were doing a photo shoot for an album that hadn't been written yet. You know what I mean?

[Derek]

Yeah. Well, you're sort of soundtracking your life. The realization I came to is like. And there were times people would walk in and say, you know, you got a siggy, action figures and guitar, and someone would walk up and be like, boy, what the hell are you doing? You know, a couple dogs and a shotgun, like, what are you doing?

[Sufi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Derek]

And it felt very much like being caught masturbating. It was just like.

[Scott]

I would say, that's a weird case where I think you might. A cover story. It might have been better just to say I'm masturbating as opposed to waking up.

[Derek]

Well, emotionally, I was. You know what I mean?

[Sufi]

Yeah. You know, and too early to say, like, I'm making a video for YouTube.

[Scott]

It was. Yeah, right. Yeah. There's no. Did you. Was. Was music in the family or were you sort of an outlier there?

[Derek]

My grandma played piano and, you know, I remember though my. My grandma, she would play, and if I would walk in, she would kind of stop. And again, watching her paint alone and finish a painting and put it down and just pick up the next one. I just remember early on thinking, like, art is something you do for you. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't a share moment. Like, I never played for my family at Christmas. I still never have, you know.

[Scott]

Right, right.

[Derek]

It's. It's. If I was playing and someone walked in, I would stop and again sort of be like, oh, yeah, yeah. And I think to this day, even if I'm in a hotel room, I play quietly because I'm, I'm like, oh, the next room can hear me fucking up. You know, I. It's very much a. Yeah, I guess, sort of still sort of masturbatorial event.

[Scott]

Did you, Did Idaho stay in the family? Was it something you're. You have three children, correct?

[Derek]

I do, yeah.

[Scott]

Did they, have they ever got up there?

[Derek]

I just got back two days ago.

[Sufi]

Oh, wow.

[Scott]

Great. And so was it part of their upbringing as well to get up there?

[Derek]

It has been. And not as sort of regularly as I would like. And a couple times we've done that drive there and back because I think especially nowadays you can relate. Seth, what do you. You got two?

[Scott]

Three.

[Derek]

Three. Oh, nice.

[Scott]

But younger. Younger than yours?

[Derek]

Yeah. Oh, I suppose that's a brag.

[Scott]

Dude. Do you know how jealous I am of the fact that you're gonna not have a 13 year old when you're 60?

[Derek]

Well, physically I'm 65, so it's like.

[Scott]

Right, right, right. Yeah.

[Derek]

Yeah. But I do think it's a wonderful form of kidnapping.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

You know. And Josh, do you have kids too? Am I leaving you out? And that's. No, no, no.

[Scott]

That's why he looks so good.

[Sufi]

Yeah. Dvd. Yeah. Recently married, so we'll find out.

[Scott]

And did your, what's the, what's the modern cell service like up there? Like, when you get your kids up there, is it a, is it a dead zone? Because I would love to get my kids to a place, you know, where there's no options.

[Derek]

Astoundingly, even on the lake, there's good cell reception. But I, you know, I told, I, I've told him for years when we go there, we're doing a tech, you know, detox.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

So you go out on the lake on a boat and, and no one is allowed to bring cell phones. And they're, they try to bargain, like, what if we want to take a photo? And I'm, and I said, you're going to have to do it mentally.

[Scott]

Right. No. Good for you.

[Derek]

You're going to have to remember, you.

[Scott]

Know, I will say we have a friend who's a photographer and we see her a lot in the summer. And, you know, we'll go out on a boat and she'll bring a proper camera and her, you know, and then she sends us all pictures. They're like 100 times better than anything we would have taken with a phone. So it is like I would, I do want to say to My kids, like, I'll get you a camera.

[Derek]

You know what I mean?

[Scott]

Like, if that's what I've said that.

[Derek]

I've said that to my, my son Ryder, the middle, my middle one. And because he has that interest and also it prevents things like my mom, she's just a terrible photographer. I say that with all the love and respect. It's like mid. About to take a bite of a pizza. Like sort of the worst candid. When you're going like this, you're just like seven.

[Scott]

The throat's in a weird place.

[Derek]

A seven chin, two pepperoni style photograph. So it's got its benefits even for the elderly.

[Scott]

Yeah, that's true.

[Derek]

Yeah.

[Scott]

I do want to get back to your family trips, but I'm wondering, like, as a touring musician, have your kids, has that been a part of their family vacations? Did they go on the road with you? A lot.

[Derek]

A lot, a lot. Especially, you know, especially summertime through Europe. It's. We spend a lot of time, you know, and it feels like a nice trick to be able to. It's a business expense. We're coming over here. And then you sort of leave yourself stranded somewhere in Spain or something like that. It's a real. It's one of the beautiful benefits of, of being a touring musician is you stop somewhere exotic on accident like Cleveland or something.

[Scott]

Are those.

[Sufi]

Do you sort of make a meal of it before or after the tour or do you try in the middle to find time or. I don't know if you're just like bang, bang, bang with shows.

[Derek]

The last summer. I got pretty sick last summer and like, just physically where I had to have surgeries and stuff like that. And it was right in the middle of this tour where I was really trying to shuffle those two decks of vacation and travel together or touring and vacation together, which I found to be the wrong idea. It's sort of better to tour and then do it. Yeah. And I realized, I mean, we had like, I had this thing where it's four days off in Rome and seven days off in Greece and, you know, two days off in Transylvania.

[Sufi]

Cool.

[Derek]

And, and, and that sounds amazing, but also it's very difficult to. Touring is about going fast and it's hard to pump the brakes and go slow and go fast and go slow. They're not great bedfellows just in terms of trying to. I like to have blinders on and do one or the other.

[Scott]

So ideally, if you were touring and not trying to make it a vacation, you would stack shows a lot. You Wouldn't take a lot of time off between shows.

[Derek]

I, I like to tour in a way that makes your crew quit. So I can't do what I would like. Yeah, I would play four or five days in a row because when we're, when our fingers are a little bloody and you're kind of bruised, and that's when it's, that's when we're at our best, you know? You know, because you don't. Not to sound like Yoda, but you do not try. You're just being yourself, and you're too, you're too beat up and exhausted to, you know, pretend to be something else.

[Scott]

I also think for, like, the kind of music you play and your fan base, they don't want to see you come on stage and think, they look so well rested.

[Sufi]

These guys are pristine.

[Derek]

I've never let them have. I've never let them see me well rested ever.

[Scott]

Like, it is fun. Like it is. There's certain kind of bands you want to, you almost want to feel like you're watching the show after the show.

[Derek]

Yeah, well, you know. Yeah, I, I, I think I have this obsession with it being different every night. And so that, that could be like, all right, well, tonight is, you know, mushroom chocolates, and tomorrow is sobriety, and then the next day is tequila, and then the next. The set is always different. It's, it's got to be it. We have a lot of repeat offenders that come to a lot of shows, and so even if it's only five of them, I think, oh, they can't possibly see the same thing. It's not. I can't.

[Scott]

Right, right.

[Derek]

And so that is the opposite vibe of vacationing somehow.

[Scott]

Yeah, you know, you're right. Like, your entire vibe is like trying to catch people off guard.

[Derek]

I don't want to. And vacation is really not like, gotcha. Yeah, it's not catching people off guard, you know.

[Scott]

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[Scott]

Here we go. Did you outside. I mean so obviously your summers were fully booked up when you were a kid. Did you take trips the other part of the year? Did you ever. Were you guys ever on a plane anywhere?

[Derek]

You know, we attempted to do things in that Thanksgiving spring breaky thing and I have come to realize I read this thing about, you know, a decade ago that was a study about kids memories and you know, whether the vacation was good or bad, that occupies a bulk of their family memories. There's some, there's that, you know, it's in. In above 70% of their real core memories. Are are these attempts to go somewhere right. You know, and I just Thought, man, I'm just gonna. You know, sometimes I just pull them out of school and go somewhere for a week, you know. Now.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

With three of them, especially that they're a little older. It's just individual trips with each one of them, you know what I mean?

[Sufi]

Oh, that's good. Are they ever like, I have school, dad.

[Derek]

Yeah.

[Sufi]

It's important that I'm in school now.

[Derek]

Yeah. Especially now that they're, you know, my daughter's 19 and my middle son is 13. And so they're like, I have friends and a life.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Derek]

And. But I'm always like, yeah, I know. And part of that life is going to Tokyo right now.

[Scott]

Well, that's not bad.

[Derek]

I mean, it's not bad, you know?

[Sufi]

Yeah, sounds good.

[Derek]

I also like to fly them home on their own.

[Scott]

Oh, tell me more.

[Derek]

Well, it's like, I would keep thinking, like, what is the. What is the easiest, safest way to give them some independence, you know?

[Scott]

Right.

[Derek]

Like, you're really just getting from point A to point B, but, you know, the feeling of, like, I just did that. I just flew home from Tokyo to la, and there's someone dropping you at one end and picking you up there. But you did that thing. Yeah, it's such a. Such a safe, cheap way to gain some independence, you know?

[Sufi]

And are you on the. Are you on the next flight or are you taking another week in Tokyo?

[Derek]

Well, like, for Tokyo, for example, it's like my son Ryder came and then we then started the tour after and went to Australia, New Zealand, and it's just like he went home, you know.

[Sufi]

Gotcha.

[Derek]

And. But it's just like. And they're capable of doing this, and they're sort of. When they got home, each of them that have done this are like, man. Flew home from, you know, from Cleveland.

[Scott]

We had the boys. I'm sorry, I always say the boys, because our girl is the third one. My kids, their cousin.

[Derek]

The boys and her.

[Scott]

Yeah, the boys and her, who I will remain unnamed, but they had a cousin from Austin, came to New York, eight years old, and they put him on a plane. And I was just so impressed with him. And I kind of hoped my boys would be like, yeah, we'd like to do that. And they were both like, no way.

[Derek]

Well, you know, kids, given the choice, would. Would, at that age would go like, hey, no. But when you just say it, like, I like to talk to my kids like, we have a small business together and they're. We're running it together. And yeah, it's Just you are going to do this and you can do this, and don't worry, I got this, and you can do this. And just like you said, you were impressed. So when you see the cousin, certainly you were like, wow, you did fantastic. I'm impressed. And when they hear that and they've just done that, as I said, it's such an easy way to guarantee that independence, you know?

[Sufi]

Yeah. And it just builds that confidence.

[Scott]

Sure.

[Sufi]

I would imagine. And that pride.

[Derek]

Yeah. They start saying, I can do the following.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Derek]

You know.

[Scott]

Did you ever go in a plane that your grandmother flew?

[Derek]

No, but I would have liked to do that without. I mean, without the scotch. And I guess the Siggy would be fine. By the time they moved to the des, both my grandpa and grandma, Captain Camille, they were done flying.

[Scott]

Yeah, he flew as well. He was a recreation pilot as well.

[Derek]

Well, he was in the Marine Air Corps and was a captain and flew in World War II. And so I think after that he didn't fly again. I think he was like, that's enough of that.

[Scott]

Right?

[Derek]

I think.

[Scott]

Yeah. I think if you make it out in World War II, you're probably like, I don't know if I want to risk it on just, let's see what the town looks like from up high. Well.

[Derek]

And I know some people have that love. I know he loved to do it, but he also made. He was in the Pacific theater. And so when you'd go for R and R, they'd say, cool, just go to Australia. Right. But from the South Pacific, flying using navigation, like astral navigation and all this stuff. At that time, there was one story where, you know, he's pulling into Sydney, they're completely out of gas and other. The rest of the crew ditches, and he's white knuckling trying to land this thing. And I think the stress of that was like, okay, that's enough of that.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

You know, ditches.

[Scott]

They were all like, we're gonna parachute off of this plane.

[Derek]

We're gonna. We're gonna jump. We're close enough. We're overland and best of luck.

[Sufi]

Yeah. Better if you don't sort of ditch the airplane.

[Derek]

And that. That's going to R and R too.

[Scott]

Right.

[Derek]

That is the best way to start a vacation.

[Scott]

It's real. I mean, again, I would. I would never be that excited if I was flying a plane. And everybody thought their odds would be better if they jumped out in parachutes. Fine. We might bounce.

[Derek]

Yeah. If you don't mind. We're just gonna bounce.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

Especially when it's like you start the flight by realizing, okay, ocean. And you just go, like, kind of that way, I guess.

[Scott]

Yeah, yeah.

[Derek]

And make sure your math is right. And it's like, my math.

[Scott]

Okay.

[Derek]

All right. You know, you're on the plane and the pencils, like, I just. I have such a reverence for people that can pull off those difficult situations.

[Scott]

Yeah. Did you. Were your. Were your grandparents around to see you do your thing? Did they ever get to go to a concert?

[Derek]

They never went to a concert because it wasn't their cup of tea. Especially early on.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

And my grandpa. And there were sort of a few words. You know, I would call them on the reg from tour, and I'd be like, you know, Cap, it's Josh. And he'd be like, oh, well, here's your grandmother. But I knew that that was their love language. They just wanted to hear your voice.

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

And she'd say, how's it going? I'd say, it's good. And she'd say, okay, then.

[Scott]

So they had that real, like, Fargo Y type speech pattern.

[Derek]

Well, they didn't have quite that. I don't. Maybe I wasn't recognizing accents in the way that I love them now, but there wasn't really that heavy overtone. Although it was Bismarck, which is even more Fargoy than Fargo in its own. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. That was good. You did great, Josh.

[Sufi]

Hey, thanks. Would you. When you were up in Idaho, would you do things altogether? I mean, certainly you were off in the woods setting your guys on fire, but, I mean, group activities, it was.

[Derek]

That's all it really was.

[Sufi]

Okay.

[Derek]

And, and, you know, when you're a kid like that and the days are long, you know, it feels like one day just takes forever, you know?

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Derek]

And, you know, I. It's funny how much I, I, I know you agree already. It's how much you long for those days now, you know?

[Scott]

Yeah.

[Derek]

Because now we're so much older. You guys are way older than me. I. So your days are fucking numbered.

[Scott]

Oh, totally.

[Derek]

This could be it.

[Sufi]

I will say you're the. No one has ever said this, but we had a guest yesterday, and they said the same thing, so I don't know what's happened.

[Derek]

I think the light only based on looks.

[Scott]

Summer light is not doing well for us.

[Derek]

Yeah, no, I.

[Scott]

You know what? Zoom keeps telling me to update it, and I feel like maybe that's the problem.

[Derek]

Yeah, it's definitely an update issue.

[Scott]

Yeah, it's all soft. I know. We look like shit. Josh.

[Derek]

This is software.

[Scott]

This is a software issue. Did you. What about. I'm assuming it's not a restaurant culture when you're up in that lake in the middle of nowhere. So who was your. Who was the chef who was cooking?

[Derek]

Well, it was done by everybody. You know, it was very much. Everyone pitches in, everyone does stuff. I mean, it was, you know, led the Camille and my, my, my mom sort of led the charge. But, you know, and my grandma was a good, she was a good cook. But also there were times when she would make me a lunch and I'd take a bite of a sandwich and the, the plastic on the cheese would still be there. So it was kind of a smart bomb, you know, you never knew, right? Yeah, yeah.

[Scott]

I still, I mean, I long for an individual piece of cheese that comes in plastic.

[Derek]

I mean, who doesn't?

[Scott]

I mean, I feel like we're getting a lot of stuff like straight from the dairy and it's like. I know it's healthier, but.

[Derek]

But I long for a slice.

[Scott]

I like that somebody put the care and consideration and put a little piece of plastic around the cheese I'm about to eat.

[Derek]

I'm a sucker for Velveeta still. Yeah, you know, I'll, you know, Velveeta, boy. It's. I know it's not real. I mean, I know it exists. So it is real. But it melts like a motherfucker.

[Scott]

That velvet. We had a real.

[Sufi]

Or I at least had a real passion for old easy cheese back in.

[Derek]

The day just because of its ease.

[Sufi]

Well, you'd spray it out like, like whipped cream on a cracker. And it sort of had a nice, sort of nice shape.

[Derek]

It tricks your mind into thinking you're getting something else.

[Sufi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Derek]

My, my old man, I'll walk in still and he's eating this stuff that's simply called pub cheese.

[Sufi]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very orange.

[Derek]

It's. Or it's. It's, it's. It's an. It's not a natural orange, much like Velveeta.

[Scott]

Mm.

[Derek]

Is just like, sort of like a self tanning look to it. Like tons of self tanner.

[Scott]

It's chi. They make it in a strip mall tanning place.

[Derek]

Yeah. So spin it, take the bikini off of it, hit it again.

[Scott]

Your three kids, do they travel well? There's a bit of an age gap. Did they travel well as a group?

[Derek]

Actually, they're such experience. They have so many stamps at this point. You know, they kind of long to go on tour. I think things like A tour bus and the, the, you know, I mean, it is. It's such a different way to go. You go to a festival and you're coming in the back door and you have, you know, easy cheese and, you know, Velveeta on the rider, you know, I mean, that's the dream that is, isn't it? The. Isn't it though? Yeah.

[Scott]

Somebody that, you know how, you know the best tasting easy cheese. The kind somebody else paid for. Now you want to talk easy, you don't even have to go to this. It's so easy. You don't have to go to the store.

[Derek]

That's the kind of ease I'm into for that cheese. Yeah. I think there's probably a certain amount of guilt when you pay for easy cheese yourself.

[Scott]

Do they. When, I mean, were they on tour but too young to see stay up for the show and did they reach an age where they would stay up for it?

[Derek]

Yeah, I mean, you know, I brought my daughter out when she was 2 and it was just. It was me and you know, my mom or my brother would come out and. Because I just, you know, touring's a funky place, you know, when, you know, if you do a standup tour, especially that because you're just primarily alone.

[Scott]

Totally. Yeah. There's no. There's no vibes.

[Derek]

Yeah. And being on tour with people you've known for years, you kind of, you know, after years you've said everything you need to say. That's deep. So you're kind of. You just. We default by just sort of making fun, you know, of stuff. It's a way to survive. And. And so I think I. It can be a lonely place. And so for me that's always a recharge of the battery is to have them come out. That's always something I like.

[Scott]

Since you mentioned fun, I do want to mention that you're in a particularly favorite Portlandia sketch of mine.

[Derek]

Oh, yeah. Disappointing gay.

[Scott]

Disappointing gays. Yeah. And it's a really. You and Nick Swardson, right? Is he the other disappointing gay who's.

[Derek]

Such a scene stealing bastard?

[Scott]

Yeah, he is. But you held your own. But he is the scene stealer. But it's very funny idea. You guys are renting it or staying guest house guests?

[Derek]

We're houseguests. We're visiting. I'm Carrie's brother.

[Scott]

Oh, that's right. And you're just like really fratty and dirty, I hate to say.

[Derek]

Well, we're just so bro'd out.

[Scott]

Yeah, you're bro'd out.

[Derek]

That's as was the case with poor Landia. There's just on the cutting edge. Like, I was in Crocs way before this whole Crocs thing.

[Scott]

Yeah, the Croc.

[Derek]

I'm not saying I did it, but I probably did it, you know, that explosion. And swores and had this great line. He was like, you know, Armisen's like, where'd you guys meet? And he was like, ESPN Zone.

[Scott]

You guys are kind of lying in each other's arms. You fall asleep on the couch and you're just, like, covered in chips and stuff. And they're like, I think they're gay.

[Derek]

For the perfect size for that, too. I'm 65 and, you know, swores then he's like a perfect. To be held in my arms, you know?

[Scott]

It's really good.

[Derek]

Yeah. It actually felt quite nice, as I recall. Is it?

[Scott]

Yeah. He's a good guy to put your arms around.

[Derek]

Yeah. Decent. A really decent cuddle.

[Scott]

Yeah. It is just. It's so delightful. I mean, it's been forever, I feel like, since I've seen you, but this is. It's been so nice to catch up and chat, man.

[Derek]

Yeah, I really appreciate it. It's good to see you, too. And it's nice to meet you, Josh, you son of a bitch.

[Scott]

Yeah, we do have some questions for you that Josh is going to ask you now. These are the speed round questions.

[Derek]

All right, hold on.

[Scott]

Get ready, get ready.

[Sufi]

Go set a action figure on fire and quick Sig and come back and we'll ask you these questions.

[Scott]

You know those. I keep thinking of their GI Joes and you know those GI Joe cartoons used to end with, like, them telling a helpful lesson. And then it was like, knowing is half the battle. I just feel like the amount one of them wanted to be like, don't set us on fire, GI Joe.

[Derek]

Especially mine in particular would. It would be like if you got a smoke, smoke, but don't set us on fire. You know what I mean? Like, if you're. If we have to pick, you know.

[Scott]

Right. Yeah.

[Derek]

Yeah.

[Sufi]

All right, here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational?

[Derek]

Adventurous.

[Sufi]

What is your favorite means of transportation.

[Derek]

Right now? Boat.

[Sufi]

Okay.

[Derek]

Not cruise ship.

[Sufi]

Not cruise ship. Not the Netflix poop cruise.

[Scott]

Oh, yeah.

[Derek]

Don't even get me started.

[Sufi]

If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with?

[Derek]

This is easy. The Adams family.

[Scott]

Great. Great.

[Sufi]

If you had to be Stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be?

[Derek]

I'm going to go with Wolfie, my littlest one right now.

[Scott]

All right.

[Sufi]

All right, great.

[Derek]

He's still in that, like, silly dancing sort of age right now.

[Sufi]

And you're from Palm Desert or Palm Springs. What's your hometown?

[Derek]

Palm Desert.

[Sufi]

It's Palm Desert. Would you recommend Palm Desert as a vacation destination?

[Derek]

Absolutely. I'm on the Chamber of commerce. Is that a real thing? Wait, what Is that?

[Sufi]

Is that a real thing? I think so.

[Derek]

Yeah. Well, I'm on it.

[Scott]

You're on it?

[Derek]

Yeah.

[Sufi]

So I don't know if it's real or not. Are you really on something?

[Derek]

No, but. Well, am I on something now? Not now.

[Sufi]

It's early.

[Scott]

Late in the podcast. This has turned into who's on first?

[Derek]

So.

[Sufi]

Yes, absolutely. Is what you say.

[Scott]

Absolutely.

[Sufi]

Seth has our. Our final questions.

[Scott]

Have you been to the Grand Canyon?

[Derek]

Yes. Yes.

[Scott]

And was it worth it?

[Derek]

Absolutely. So grand.

[Scott]

Yeah, absolutely. I kind of knew there was no way you were ending up on the other side of the Grand Canyon.

[Sufi]

Yeah.

[Derek]

Yeah, definitely.

[Scott]

Well, this is a. This is a delight. Thank you so much for your time and fantastic stories. Wish I could have met Cap. Wish I could have met Camille. Feel like.

[Derek]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same for Frankie and Frank and Addie.

[Scott]

And I think we. I think we. Did you name one of yours Camille?

[Derek]

Yeah, my daughter is Camille.

[Scott]

We named our daughter Addie, so there you go.

[Derek]

Oh, that's great. Oh, that's great.

[Scott]

Keep it going. Yep.

[Derek]

Keep it going.

[Scott]

Yeah. All right. Be well, Josh.

[Derek]

Yeah, thanks.

[Scott]

Have a great rest of your summer.

[Sufi]

Thanks so much.

[Derek]

Ciao.

[Josh Homme]

Cap and Camille, we're the real deal. We're freaking fantastic. She's with some plastic hot barrel smoking some riding and roping Cap was a good shot Warring ass guys.

[Sufi]

Be always.

[Josh Homme]

Admired in some ajito up to Idaho Lake Vanderay.

[Derek]

So far away.

[Josh Homme]

Toyota Vana hang out with his cousins talk on walkie talkies come in rubber ducky Rubber ducky so far couldn't go much higher Alone in the woods he'd set on fire smoking cigars and set toys on fire Kick some rocks like action fingers on fire.