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Seth Meyers
Hey, budgie.
Josh
Hey, Sufi.
Seth Meyers
So we're recording this before you come out and do the Thanksgiving show with mom and dad? Yeah, it's an annual tradition. I guess this is the 12th year or the 11th year. Must be the 11th year. I don't know.
Josh
So however many years you've been on.
Seth Meyers
The air with that show, no way to know.
Do you. Do you look forward to this tradition, Pashi?
Pashi
I do.
Josh
I mean, I do get nervous.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Josh
There's. There's always an element of nerves around it.
Seth Meyers
And I forget, like. I mean, you guys are so good for people who don't do this show every night, because even, like, you know, celebrities who come on talk shows who do other talk shows get nervous. It's a. It's a whole different thing. It's not a normal thing.
Josh
Yeah, I have. I know of, you know, a celebrity who would sort of Is a household name who has a couple beers before every talk show appearance, and it just sort of, like, eases them into it. And so I think. I think that's a wise approach, and maybe I'm gonna do something similar.
Seth Meyers
Well, we always hope we have a.
Josh
Drink on the show.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, we've drink on the show, but I think you can have a drink before the show at this point in our process of doing it. Yeah, mom and dad are probably gonna come with stories.
Mom, you know, mom's been red hot the last couple years.
Josh
Yeah. I mean, they're both so practiced at this point. Dad's like. Dad's classically growing up. You know, he was the storyteller.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Josh
But mom has. She's got an edge that, you know, she has such a sweet appearance, but then she throws out some barbs.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, she's got, like, barbs.
Josh
It's a good way of putting it. I feel like the audience always appreciates that. I certainly do.
Seth Meyers
She. Dad is, like, so confident. He's surprised he hasn't been booked on, like, other talk shows.
That's kind of dad's vibe. Yeah, I'm very much looking forward to it. I think we're gonna try to get you guys to do a skit again.
Josh
Oh, great.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, that's a. That's an extra special part for me. And. And then we're gonna have our. Our fakesgiving.
Josh
Yeah, we've, you know, for years and years, we would have Thanksgiving with this family from Amsterdam, the Moscoses, first with just the parents, and then they had two boys who are now, I don't know, 23 and 21, something like that. We've been Doing it for a long time. And they have started coming to New York so we could have a pseudo Thanksgiving dinner that we do on Tuesday night.
Seth Meyers
Tuesday night. And I think we're 20 people strong this year.
Josh
That's amazing.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, it's a really good group, and I look forward to that. And it's very fun to be at a. At a Thanksgiving dinner that's a fake Thanksgiving dinner, because that way I don't have to invite my children. And at no point while I'm enjoying my dinner does someone say to me, like, try to get Axel to eat his green beans.
I like that.
Josh
I've also, you know, we've always played games with this family also, I should say, you know, my mother in law will be there, my wife will be there. But I have sent you a couple games which are arriving today. Okay. So just keep those on hand because Wednesday we, you know, we tape the show on Wednesday and then we go back to your house for sort of a double dip and we get some Chinese food and we hang out and play games. So hopefully that game night's gonna be a fun one.
Seth Meyers
Very, very much looking forward to it. We have had a lot of different accommodations of guests. We've had.
Mother, daughter. We've had married couples. We've had sisters.
This is a new combo for us coming up. Maybe. Maybe my favorite combo we've ever had.
Josh
Yeah, Well, I mean, the top of this pyramid is tough to beat.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Josh
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
So you got. You got. We got mom and two sons already. Great. When then the mom is Julie Dreyfus. Come on now. Yeah, come on now.
Josh
And her two sons, which it's also, you know, one of them played basketball at Northwestern, which was huge for us. We were clearly rooting on.
This young man while he was at Northwestern, and that was very exciting. I do want to say as well, we mention meow in this episode, and I don't know if we ever are very clear about what it is.
Seth Meyers
Great.
Josh
But meow is the sound a cat makes.
Also, it's the college improv troupe. It's the Northwestern improv troupe that Julia was a member of and both of us were members of when we were there.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Josh
And, you know, we certainly talk some Northwestern, but.
Julia and her husband, both Northwestern.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Josh
And Charlie, mom and dad, both Northwestern.
Seth Meyers
A lot of Northwestern in this one. So if you. If you went to University of Illinois.
Pashi
Might not be for you.
Seth Meyers
We don't really have a rival. I was trying to think of, like, what Northwestern's rival is, and we don't really. Yeah. When you're not a juggernaut in sports, you don't really end up with. Yeah, it's who we play last every year, so I feel like that's the closest you can come. Yeah. Do please enjoy it. Thanks for listening, everybody.
Narrator/Poet
Family trips with the M.
Brothers.
Seth Meyers
Family trips with the M.
Here we go. Oh.
Hello, Henry. Hello, Julia.
Henry Hall
Hey, guys.
Pashi
Hi, friends.
Seth Meyers
I'm so happy to see you guys. I'm really. Josh and I are both hoping this will lead us to getting booked on your podcast, Julia, so just FYI.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah. Cause you're both 70 year old women, is that correct?
Josh
Have a lot to share.
Seth Meyers
Heart.
Pashi
I mean, I love your podcast.
Josh
As a approaching 50 year old man, I feel like I have a lot.
Pashi
To learn from these women as well, and I.
Julie Dreyfus
Well, you do, Josh.
Pashi
I do.
Henry Hall
Not me.
Seth Meyers
Has that ever occurred to you?
Henry Hall
I got nothing to learn from them.
Seth Meyers
Interesting, Henry. Interesting. And you feel like because you already know it or because they're just spreading lies. Which one?
Henry Hall
Yeah, you know, a little from column A, a little from column B. Yeah.
Pashi
And Henry, did you write the song.
Josh
Did you write the theme song to that?
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah, I wrote all the music for it. Yeah. And recorded it with some friends of mine.
Seth Meyers
What is that process like, Julie, when you're getting first drafts of music from your son? Do you guys have a good back and forth creatively as far as, like, notes?
Julie Dreyfus
Well, I'd actually like Henry to answer that question. Do we.
Henry Hall
Honestly? Yes, absolutely. You've good. You have good taste in music.
Julie Dreyfus
Mom, are you bullshitting right now?
Charlie Hall
A little bit?
Henry Hall
No, no, no. I. I did my. I did my sarcastic bit about. About the wise old women. I don't think I want to double down.
Seth Meyers
You said that for. You knew you had one bullet. You just immediately walked into the saloon and just fired it into the ceiling.
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah. Just buckshot all over the podcast.
Seth Meyers
Did you, as a. Were you a family. As a musician, were you a family that agreed on music when you were growing up, Henry?
Henry Hall
Yes, my dad.
Luckily.
You guys showed me they should. You know, my dad showed me, like, the Smiths and, you know, the generation. It's not like my parents were listening to, like, Benny Goodman and.
Seth Meyers
Although Benny Jolson is good.
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Benny Goodman is good. Of course. But. But there's.
Seth Meyers
But again, remember, she talks to a lot of very old women. Yeah, right, right, right.
Henry Hall
But my dad was like, you know, check out the Smiths and check out Paul Simon and all this music that is. No matter what, you know, it's Evergreen.
Josh
Was there, like, an artist that was like the family artist? Like, for us, it would have been John Prine, probably.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Josh
Was there sort of.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Josh
Who were your touchstones?
Charlie Hall
Beatles.
Henry Hall
Beatles, Without a doubt. Yeah. My dad is like an. You know, he knows as much about the Beatles as I do about the Simpsons, which is saying something.
Seth Meyers
Right.
Henry Hall
And I'm a big Simpsons fan. And.
Yeah, Beatles.
Like a lot of that. Like, North England.
You know, early 80s. Joy Division.
Smiths, you know, Factory, like, music stuff. Bonnie Ray.
Josh
Bonnie Raitt.
Pashi
Yeah, Bonnie Ray.
Seth Meyers
Bonnie Raitt was the one person at the SNL 50th my wife wanted to meet and get a picture. With good reason. And with good reason. And it was one of those, you know, don't be your heroes. And if it's Bonnie Raitt, go right ahead.
Julie Dreyfus
Yes, without question. Without question. I remember years and years ago. I don't know if you remember this, Henry. We went to some sort of a fundraiser and Bonnie was sort of headlining it. And, Henry, you came and she played guitar for a long period of time. And your jaw was on the ground. Do you kind of remember that or not really?
Henry Hall
I have to be honest, I don't remember that.
Julie Dreyfus
So, anyway, a huge influence in his.
Seth Meyers
I feel like that's. I mean, I would imagine, like, due to the life your parents have left, you got a lot of incredible experiences that would have resonated with a lot of other kids that just went, you know, in one ear, out the other.
Henry Hall
Yeah, I hope so.
I hope I lack perspective. That's all I can really.
Julie Dreyfus
I will say something, that Henry.
Did a show in LA and a couple of the writers from Veep went to the show, one of whom was in Maxtone. Graham. I don't know if you guys know him.
Seth Meyers
Famous Simpsons writer as well.
Julie Dreyfus
Exactly.
Henry Hall
Bingo.
Julie Dreyfus
And he's actually a big fan of Henry's music. And he came and met him that night. And then afterwards, everybody was sort of hanging out. And I go up to these guys and all they're doing is. Is recounting Simpson episodes to one another. It was the most extraordinary thing to witness. It was so. It's charming, really, because Ian was enjoying the conversation as much as you were, Henry. Cause you were just, like, reciting Simpson scenes back and forth to one another. Do you remember this?
Henry Hall
Absolutely. We were being completely antisocial.
Julie Dreyfus
Yes.
Henry Hall
And, you know, saying whatever.
Seth Meyers
I mean, my dream is to be at a party and sort of a young, talented person just wants to talk about my work.
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally, totally.
Charlie Hall
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
It's funny, you Mentioned the Beatles because famously, our dad doesn't like the Beatles, which is just an incredible position to hold.
Josh
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
And I remember my best friend from college, Pete Gross, who was in Veep.
Julie Dreyfus
Oh, yes, of course.
Seth Meyers
And I remember we did an improv show once, and my dad was there, and he might. Dad was underwhelmed. He's also a real straight talker, and he sort of gave us the notes about how he was underwhelmed. And. And then my Pete goes, we do have to keep in mind, he also doesn't like the Beatles.
Henry Hall
Wow, that's awesome. That's an incredible safety net.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah. By the way, I had the same experience. My dad did not like the Beatles.
Henry Hall
Is that true, Mom? I didn't know that.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah. Big Pa was always telling Brad that he was wrong and that the Beatles were not just bad, but awful. Yeah, he thought they were awful. Yeah.
Josh
Did your dad also have some harsh notes about the Meow show?
Julie Dreyfus
Yes, as a matter of fact, he had harsh notes about the Meow show. He had harsh notes about snl. He had harsh notes about. He had very pleasant notes for all the other people I was working with.
Josh
Yeah.
She'S good.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, she's good. He's a genius.
Julie Dreyfus
That guy can. That guy knows what he's doing.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
That kind of stuff. It was really.
It was very healthy.
Seth Meyers
Yeah. Well, it's good. I mean, again, there's a. I mean, I've always said, like, my mom was the one who was supportive of everything we did, no matter how bad. And then our dad only ever gave us credit for the very top tranche of work we did. And I do think it's nice to have one of each.
Julie Dreyfus
I guess. So. I mean, like, what is he like that you've done?
Seth Meyers
Well, you know, it's early in my career, so.
Henry Hall
Yeah. This is what, Year two, Seth.
Seth Meyers
Year two.
Henry Hall
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
I think he was happiest. Much like I think a lot of viewers. I think he was happiest. When I found my way to the update desk. He was like, no more sweaty sketches for me, please. I'd like you just sitting in one place.
He's like, I like when I could tell you're reading stuff other people wrote.
Julie Dreyfus
Oh, God.
Henry Hall
It's proof that he's complimentary.
Josh
He's complimentary in the right. For the right thing.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
Right.
Josh
I mean, we do. Charlie is going to grace us with his presence, I believe, but. So we'll get to some family trips that include all of you. But before he does, Julia, what were your family trips growing Up. Where would you guys go?
Seth Meyers
Where.
Pashi
Where did you grow up first? And then where would you go?
Julie Dreyfus
Well, I grew up in New York city and Washington, D.C. both.
Josh
Yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
And we primarily went to Baltimore. Yeah. We primarily went to ski resorts in the humid month of August.
On the East Coast.
This is what I remember.
Pashi
Yeah.
Josh
No, please.
Julie Dreyfus
And then my parents. This is my mom and my stepdad, they.
Put together a really big trip for us to take when I was 18 and with my two younger sisters, and we went to Scotland, and it rained the entire time we were there. And.
My sister, who was nine at the time, my little sister Lauren, she refused to eat anything because, you know, it was like, scotch eggs and haggis and everything freaked her out. So by the end of the trip, she looked like she needed to be hospitalized because she was so gaunt. The only thing we could get her to eat were those ice creams, those Cadbury vanilla ice creams with the chocolate stick coming out of it that they do in Europe. So she ate a lot of those, but that was kind of it.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, that's.
Josh
And these. The sweaty ski mountains that you would go to, what were the activities? Were you there to hike or just to enjoy?
Julie Dreyfus
Well, to try not to get bitten by mosquitoes. Yeah, that was one activity. And another activity.
Was just trying to find boys, which I never seemed to find.
Seth Meyers
Well, they were. Did they ever tell you they're here in the winter?
You should try. In the winter.
Julie Dreyfus
There was nobody. I mean, I remember watching Sonny and Cherry in a rental cabin. I remember watching the Sonny and Cher show, and that was really fun. That part of it.
Seth Meyers
Well, it's good to have highlights.
Pashi
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
We. I will say, you know, and again, I'm sure it's bad Scottish. The Scots are not known for their cuisine, and hopefully they will not take offense.
Julie Dreyfus
Well, I'm sure they have taken offense, FYI. And I think this. I've been to Scotland subsequently, and they've upped their cuisine game without question.
Seth Meyers
The dumbest thing I ever did at a charity auction was I was the first bidder on a week at a Scottish castle. And I had been. I was a little. I'd had a couple of drinks and was feeling a little frisky and raised my paddle kind of, and it was a real high starting bid. But I assumed, like, in this. You know, this room full of Tony people, but it felt like it was a trap and bid, because as soon as I raised my paddle, they were, like, going once. Going till I sold. Like, I was like, oh, no. And Josh was with us. We went to the castle.
Julie Dreyfus
And how'd it go?
Seth Meyers
It was a lot of Scottish castles. It turns out. Upkeep hasn't been a big part of it.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, that's not a priority.
Seth Meyers
It was a. I would say it was very. It was a breezy castle and. But I remember the first meal, it felt like the chef at the castle was maybe 17 years old, and they rolled up cold cuts. It was like a thing of turkey and a thing of cheese and a thing of ham, and they rolled it into little, like, tubes.
Julie Dreyfus
Oh, that sounds clever.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, it was. Alexi was early pregnant with our first, and she still, to this day, says it's the worst trip of her life.
Henry Hall
Awesome.
Josh
We did some cool stuff, but, like, there was. There were chicken breasts that were, like. The breading was corn flakes.
Seth Meyers
Like, cereal. Cornflakes. Yeah.
Unknown/Interjection
Yeah.
Josh
So, yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't the best food on that trip.
Seth Meyers
Yeah. Did you. Did you know your grandfather well, Henry? You seem surprised that he didn't know the Beatles. Was he a part of your life growing up?
Henry Hall
He was a part of my life. That. That detail was left out about not liking the Beatles, but he liked other stuff. He liked the New York Jets.
Seth Meyers
Did you have a. Were grandparents a big part of trips for you guys growing up?
Henry Hall
We. Let's see. Yeah, kind of. We did a lot of nuclear family.
Trips, though, I would say not a lot of.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, I mean, we would go to visit grandparents.
Seth Meyers
That's right.
Julie Dreyfus
I mean, in other words. But we wouldn't go.
Well, with the exception of going to Wyoming when you were younger.
Henry Hall
That's true.
Julie Dreyfus
We wouldn't really go on trips with them.
Henry Hall
It was. We went to Thanksgiving a few times in D.C. and stuff like that.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, right.
Henry Hall
Classically had our most chaotic, worst Thanksgiving in Washington, D.C. with our.
Josh
Well, sleep. What happened?
Seth Meyers
Yeah, sure. It is the season.
Charlie Hall
Indeed.
Henry Hall
Yeah.
We all congregate in D.C. for Thanksgiving, and we're all cooking and everything. A plague descends upon the entire family. Everyone is deathly ill the entire time. Really, really, really sick.
Then on top of that, every dish is ruined in some way. The gravy is, like, gelatinous.
Julie Dreyfus
It looks like a volcano.
Henry Hall
The turkey's undercooked. It's, you know, the weather's really bad.
Seth Meyers
Everything.
Henry Hall
Everything.
Julie Dreyfus
Wait, and I have to interject, there was one moment in which your cousin, who was like three at the time, she had gotten particularly ill and violent diarrhea and vomiting, and she. I just remember she had had a terrible accident, and her dad, your uncle.
Was carrying her, like, with her arms out like this, and telling her to keep her arms straight.
And not move while he carried her under the armpits sort of across the room because she had just had some explosion happen, and he was telling her not to move. And we're trying to try to put together this family meal as this sort of like. It felt like a bomb had gone off, and he's taking her across the room, and she's like, this terrified. Anyway, carry on.
Henry Hall
Yeah, my dad still does that to me to this day.
Josh
Don't you get stuck in doorways, though, if your arms are just.
Seth Meyers
You just go through.
Julie Dreyfus
No, you just go sideways.
Henry Hall
Yeah. Yeah. You got to take your losses honestly. Otherwise, it's a really good thing to do.
Seth Meyers
You know what doesn't work? I found with my three young children, anytime you tell them don't move.
You know what I mean? Like, it just immediately, they feel as though that's a toddlers. Yeah, we are. We always refer to our family as a core four, which is what you guys are. Same thing. Two boys. And. And that's Josh and I, our family. But we took a lot of vacations, just the four of us, and we would the same thing. Like, we would visit grandparents, but mercifully never had them, like, on an airplane with us, which I think is a way better life to live.
Julie Dreyfus
We definitely didn't do that. But it's funny you say that about all boys, because when the kids were little, we took them to Tanzania, and we were on safari, and we got there, and I'm gonna say Charlie was 7, maybe, and Henry was 12. And the leader of the group, I.
Henry Hall
Was, like, 16, and Charlie was 12, for the record.
Julie Dreyfus
And so we get there, 16 and 12, and the leader of our group says. Starts to say, sort of the rules of camp. Cause it wasn't like we were staying in a resort. We were staying in tents out in the bush, you know? And he says, okay, now, the first rule of camp is no running.
And I remember thinking, oh, my God, this was a huge mistake. I have two boys who are being told not to run because they are prey here out in prey.
And that was. We got sick on that trip, too, hen.
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
Everybody got really sick on that trip, too. Yeah.
Seth Meyers
Is this just coincidence that it's the first two, or are you just kind of very sickly? As a family.
Henry Hall
We carry around a plane wherever we go. Yeah, we try to.
Seth Meyers
I mean, nothing's worse than the moment where the first one gets sick. And, you know, it's Coming for everyone.
Julie Dreyfus
Everyone. Yeah, that's true. God, is that the truth?
Henry Hall
Yeah, you got no choice.
Seth Meyers
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Seth Meyers
Here we go.
So what about. Did you guys ever. I mean, imagine, look, you are your family, you live in Los Angeles. Did you ever. Were you ever in a road trip? The four of you? Did you guys ever drive anywhere?
Henry Hall
We drove to Yosemite once.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, we drove to Yosemite. We didn't take long, long car rides.
Josh
Yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
Did we?
Henry Hall
How about that for an answer?
Seth Meyers
No, but Yosemite's a drive.
Josh
Yosemite's a drive.
Pashi
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've done that drive.
Henry Hall
We actually, we stayed. We stayed at the place where the hotel where the Shining is like that. The set of the Shining is sort of based off of didn't we? Or we visited there or something like that. It was spooky.
Josh
Is that in Estes park in Colorado or Is that in where Yosemite is?
Julie Dreyfus
No, Henry's.
Henry Hall
The second I said that, I realized that's not true. That's made up.
Charlie Hall
What?
Julie Dreyfus
I just said it's made up. But it looks like it. It was the.
Seth Meyers
Sure.
Julie Dreyfus
It was that fancy. It was that Aani Hotel.
Henry Hall
Yeah. Sorry.
Seth Meyers
Do you think at this point there's a chance, though, your parents just lied to you on that drive and now you're. You're having, like, a seated memory.
Henry Hall
Yeah, my parents lied to me a lot.
Seth Meyers
So were you. That's a. You have a bit of a age gap with Charlie. Were you guys close growing up?
Henry Hall
Yes, we. We were close. We're very close now.
Seth Meyers
I thought you were going to say we were.
Josh
And now it's.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, there's a reason. Let's just say there's a reason. He's late to the podcast.
Henry Hall
Yeah. He's waiting for me to log off. No. Yeah, we. Five years. You know, when. When I was, like, what, 15 and he was 10? That was not. I did not like him very much.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Josh
Did he want to be just all up in your business?
Henry Hall
No, he was honestly completely fine. I was just. I just unloaded all of my. Anything. You know, he was the. My punching bag. Metaphorically.
Julie Dreyfus
Well, and in fact.
Pashi
And.
Henry Hall
And in for real, too.
Seth Meyers
Yeah. They.
Julie Dreyfus
When you were a little younger than that, they used to play a game called Lighthouse College.
Henry Hall
Yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
And they would both be going to a Lighthouse College. And usually Henry was the wrestling coach.
Henry Hall
Yeah, I was a wrestling coach. And. And I was a really. I was a nasty professor, too.
Seth Meyers
Who.
Henry Hall
If Charlie was. If Charlie wasn't paying attention, I would throw. Throw books at him.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
Or you would beat him up and him as the coach. And that was essentially Lighthouse College.
Josh
Yeah.
Henry Hall
You know, Lighthouse. The funding at Lighthouse College was really thin. Huge issue. Yeah. Most of the professors had two jobs.
Seth Meyers
By the way, this really speaks to what a showbiz family are. Most kids just wrestle. And you guys built this, like, the world building that went into it.
Henry Hall
Yeah, we did.
Seth Meyers
Lighthouse College, they don't have a lot of money.
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah. Here's the elevator pitch.
Seth Meyers
The wrestling coach probably has failed at previous schools. This is his last stop.
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's working for scale.
Seth Meyers
And then you just. Then you just wail on each other like any kids would.
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Seth Meyers
Did you were there years where you and Brad were aware, Julie, of, like. Oh, my God. The strain that Charlie is causing Henry with just being, like, younger and.
Irritating, or is it just like. Yeah. Yeah. Were you ever aware of the trauma you inflicted on him.
Julie Dreyfus
Yes, finally. Exactly. By having a second child. Yeah, we should. I mean, to be honest, we shouldn't have had Charlie.
Seth Meyers
It was a mistake.
Charlie Hall
Oh, finally someone says it.
Josh
Jeez.
Charlie Hall
Jesus.
Henry Hall
Finally.
Seth Meyers
Have you guys. As you've gotten older, do you still go on family trips, the four of you together, or has life gotten too fast for that?
Pashi
Yeah, we.
Henry Hall
Well, actually, I.
Pashi
We.
Henry Hall
I don't know if this. I got back less than 24 hours ago from Indonesia with my. My dad and I went there together on a circle.
Seth Meyers
Wow.
Henry Hall
So I'm. This is me. I'm. I'm running on fumes.
Seth Meyers
What brought. What was the. The impetus for you and your dad taking a two man trip to Indonesia?
Henry Hall
Good question. We are surfers, so. Grew up surfing my whole life. Yeah. Yeah. And Indonesia is sort of the number one destination for surf in the whole world. So this is our second time.
Josh
Is it aggressive surfing? Like, how big are these waves? How good does one have to be to go where you went?
Henry Hall
I would say.
Sort of like back being able to go in the backcountry, skiing. That's a sort of similar. That's a comparison.
Josh
People.
Henry Hall
You're gonna run into a lot of people, though, who shouldn't be out there, though.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Henry Hall
Unfortunately, it's become very, very crowded and stuff.
Julie Dreyfus
Well, I'm gonna interject and say Henry is being humble. He's a very good surfer and he competed when he was younger. And so that's me, his proud showbiz family.
Henry Hall
My mom is also my publicist and momager.
Seth Meyers
Now that you've done that, though, how good is Brad really?
Julie Dreyfus
Brad can't surf.
Henry Hall
He rips.
Seth Meyers
He's one of the people that Henry was politely saying probably shouldn't be out there.
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Seth Meyers
Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How old were you when you started surfing? Was that something that happened out of like a vacation or just from being a west coaster?
Henry Hall
That's from my dad being from Santa Barbara.
Seth Meyers
Got it.
Henry Hall
I would say. Yeah. He pushed me into a wave for the first time when I was four. Four years old. Yeah. So it's in the blood.
Seth Meyers
So it's such a bummer when you hear, like, your kids are already older. Like when it starts for, like, really good surfers, I mean, I'm sure they could pick it up now, but of course, you start that young and then. Was it something. Would you ever take trips built around the fact that you and your dad wanted to surf?
Henry Hall
Absolutely. Multiple times. Did we forego the comfort of my brother and mom in order to get good wave somewhere.
Seth Meyers
Oh, so. Because they wouldn't. It wouldn't be. You would never wanted to. Were you not invited, Julia? Or was it like, I don't want to go to a surf town.
Julie Dreyfus
Well, I'm invited if there's something for me to do. But I don't surf. I've tried a couple of times, and I found it to be terrifying. So, you know, they have that excursion for the most part on their own. But I've been to a few places with you guys, and then, you know.
Henry Hall
We went to Peru. Oh, look who it is.
Julie Dreyfus
Hi, honey.
Charlie Hall
Hopefully you guys were in a conversational flow that I've ruined.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, you've shut up. Just in time. These guys were both kind of running out of steam.
Henry Hall
Yeah, perfect.
Charlie Hall
They tend to do that.
Henry Hall
Wait, but we were talking a lot of.
Seth Meyers
Are you not a surfer, then?
Charlie Hall
Charlie, we're talking about a surfer. I used to be kind of a surfer. Sort of. But no, Henry's the surfer.
Seth Meyers
Did you did from the very beginning, did you kind of know, like. Like, I. This. I'm. I can do this, but I don't really love it the way my dad and my brother love it.
Charlie Hall
Yes.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Charlie Hall
I was. I'm, like, too tall for surfing.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Josh
Yeah. And also, isn't that sort of an expression as. Charlie, don't surf.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, Charlie don't surf. Yeah.
Henry Hall
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
I also. I like that. It's like, I'm just, like, too handsome. I'm too handsome to surf. Like, too tall and handsome and strong.
Charlie Hall
I just think my center of gravity is too high. I'll just.
Henry Hall
It is true. I'll say this. This, too, about Charlie. Charlie is highly competitive and to the point where he'll hedge his bets on something. So I think he, at a young age, saw that my dad and I just inherently had, you know, X amount of years of experience surfing over him. And he was like, okay. He, like, did the math in his tiny brain. Yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
And he went, basketball.
Henry Hall
Yeah, I'm gonna play basketball. Instead of.
Seth Meyers
I do. Your dad is famously tall, Charlie. I feel like. And he. Yet he's managed to figure out surfing that is correct. Not to. Not to undercut your defense.
Charlie Hall
Now I feel like an idiot. But, yeah. There's also a rigamarole to surfing. Like, you gotta, you know, you have to, like, change in and out of things. You have to bring a lot of stuff. It's like, Sandy, there's, like, things about it that. That I don't totally.
Seth Meyers
I mean, that's the way I feel about skiing, which Josh and my dad love. And I was. I again, it was just the gear is oppressive.
Charlie Hall
It's gnarly. Yeah, there's a lot of it.
Henry Hall
Yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
Wait a minute, Seth, you don't ski?
Seth Meyers
I do ski, but I just don't like it.
And I will say, like, now that my boys ski and my daughter, like, we. They ski every weekend in the winter. We take them to like a little sort of shitty east coast mountain in Connecticut. And I love being on the mountain with my kids. But like when I was younger, Josh and my dad would take ski trips and I would always be like, I think I'm good.
Josh
Or we would go out and then it would get cold and Seth and my mom would be like, we're gonna go to the lodge and we're gonna tap out.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, got it.
Josh
On this Peru trip was. Were you on that as well, Charlie? Did you go to Peru?
Charlie Hall
I absolutely was.
Josh
And so you and your mother would go off and do something else, I'm assuming. Or would Julie, would you sort kick him into some kids camp and then.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, I would just give him to whatever babysitter I could find.
I'm trying to. I mean, we did sort of. It was a real sort of. Oh, that's right. We went to. We did. We did the standard, you know, looking at Machu Picchu and stuff like that. But then we did take the guys and we went into the rainforest and that was.
Miserable, if I could be so bold as to say it. I mean, this was right before Brad and Henry were gonna go off surfing and we were in the rainforest and we were getting, once again getting out of the water, the boat to sort of go to this Echo lodge in the middle of the rainforest. But you had to walk in the water a ways. And this was. Yeah, this was the river where they have those fish or something that can swim up your urethra.
Seth Meyers
Oh, yeah, those.
Josh
Yeah, yeah.
Henry Hall
That means.
Josh
Yeah, every. Every guy knows about those fish. As soon as you learn about them, you never know.
Julie Dreyfus
Those are real fish. Those are real.
Henry Hall
Yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
And I just remember being panicked with the boys and just saying, you know, keep. Keep your crotch out of the water.
Henry Hall
And by the way, though, that you were saying that the, you know, don't run thing was, you know, that's not a deterrent for little kids.
Pashi
Right?
Henry Hall
Don't put your crotch in the water because a little fish will swim up your penis. That actually worked.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, yeah, that was a straight up deterrent. But then we had this experience where I was really freaked out because there was stuff in the forest there, that was lethal. Like.
Snakes. And a certain kind of snake that if you got bit it would kill you instantly sort of a thing.
And they had really big tarantulas and stuff all over this place. And Brad and I, it was like the night before, we were headed out of there and we were walking back to our room where we were staying and it was dark and I felt something sort of go on me and I sort of went ugh, like that. And he knew that I really didn't like it there. I said, geez, that was awful. He goes, it's okay. It's like we're leaving tomorrow, don't worry about it. I'm like, okay, fine, whatever. And we get into the room and we go into the bathroom and we're brushing our teeth and Brad sort of bends over the sink and there is a tarantula on his back this big. Okay. It's called the pink toad tarantula. Have your listeners look it up, you'll see. And I screamed, oh my God, there's tarantula on your back. And without.
Within a nanosecond, Brad took his T shirt and just went and ripped it apart. And the tarantula went flying across the room. And it was a pink toed tarantula and it was big. It was a male pink toed tarantula. And we found out later that, that they're usually very docile, but. But if a pink toed tarantula does bite you, it can cause impotence.
Pashi
Wow.
Julie Dreyfus
Yes, yes.
Henry Hall
A lot of like, yeah, private parts stuff.
Josh
A lot of dick stuff.
Julie Dreyfus
And that would have been, I'm married to a man, I've got two sons.
Seth Meyers
The bummer is that was if it had happened because like the most turned on you ever were was when he ripped his shirt off. And then if that at the same moment he'd become impotent, what a bummer that would have been.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, totally.
Seth Meyers
The irony.
Julie Dreyfus
The irony is thick. And it could have been an absolutely rambunctious evening of close your ears, boys, sexual satisfaction, but it was not.
Seth Meyers
We were in Costa Rica with my boys and there was just this line of the reddest ants you've ever seen carrying leaves from an animated film, watching these ants work together. And we were just leaning down so watching them and it was just this beautiful moment in nature. And then the guy came over and was like, those are fire ants if they bite you. And basically was like, God, what is the point of being out here? This isn't a vacation.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, I hear that. I don't disagree with that.
Seth Meyers
Did you ever have either of the hallboys who are on this ever gone on a vacation with just your mother? Just the two of you?
Henry Hall
We surprised her for Mother's Day.
Charlie Hall
Yeah, that's where my brain went, too.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Josh
Where'd you take her?
Henry Hall
We went to a restaurant.
Charlie Hall
Well, we were. Yeah, we were in New York.
Julie Dreyfus
Okay, well, wait a minute.
Seth Meyers
Hold on.
Julie Dreyfus
I was in New York by myself, working.
Seth Meyers
Okay.
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
And it was late at night, and.
I'm in. I'm all by myself. I'm in the bedroom, I'm watching a movie and I. Watching it, and all of a sudden the kid in the movie sounds so much like my son. I feel like I hear this kid go, mom.
Charlie Hall
Mom.
Julie Dreyfus
Like that. God, that kid sounds like Charlie.
Charlie Hall
Yeah. I didn't want to scare. I can't. My flight got delayed. I was supposed to get in earlier and my flight got delayed, so I ended up getting in at, like, midnight to New York. And I was so terrified that I was gonna scare you. And so I was yelling, mom, Mom, I don't wanna scare you. It's your son. I don't wanna scare you. And your door was closed, and I was yelling outside for. For literally no exaggeration, like, five minutes. And you didn't. You couldn't hear me?
Julie Dreyfus
I couldn't hear maybe. And I didn't want to open the.
Charlie Hall
Door because I thought I'd, like, give you a heart attack.
Julie Dreyfus
Well, you did give me a heart attack, by the way.
Seth Meyers
There you go.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, I took you guys to Portland once to see a basketball game.
Henry Hall
Oh, my God.
Josh
Of course.
Henry Hall
That's the number one.
Julie Dreyfus
That's the number one.
Seth Meyers
Just the three of you?
Henry Hall
Just the three of us. Yeah. Yeah.
Seth Meyers
Was this an interesting time to go to a basketball game? Game in Portland? You seem to have a specific memory of it, Henry.
Henry Hall
Yeah, we. There's this guy, he's sort of like in and out of the G League.
Who we got to meet, this LeBron something.
Pashi
What's his last name?
Charlie Hall
James.
Seth Meyers
Is it James, but spelled with a G? Yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah.
Henry Hall
We got to go to Portland and we see a Miami. This is. This was in the Miami Heat days.
Seth Meyers
Wow. But so you lived in la, so there obviously. You famously have a couple basketball teams. Was it special to go to Portland and see LeBron play?
Charlie Hall
We.
Henry Hall
My mom's best friend works for Nike, so we had a whole Nike thing.
Set up for us, which was unbelievably special.
Seth Meyers
How old were you when this was happening? Were you was this, like, peak age to go to a sporting event?
Henry Hall
Yes. Any age is peak age for us to go to a sporting event.
Charlie Hall
We're also like, I would die for LeBron.
Henry Hall
Like, Charlie's the biggest.
Charlie Hall
Absolutely no hesitation. Take a bullet. Like, truly.
Henry Hall
Yeah.
Charlie Hall
And so doing that was incredibly special, and it ended up being an amazing game. Chris Bosh hit a, essentially, buzzer beater. Yeah.
Seth Meyers
Did you meet LeBron?
Henry Hall
Yes, LeBron.
Charlie Hall
But we almost didn't because I was so scared. I, I, he's so. I, I love LeBron in a way that's, like, certainly unhealthy. No question about it. And as a result, like, the moment was, like, too big for me. I don't know how old I was, but I was too anxious, and I was almost pulled the plug on the whole operation. I was like, I don't think I can do this.
But thankfully, I think actually dad, sort of. We called dad, right?
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah.
Charlie Hall
He was like, guys, what are you talking about? You gotta go meet him.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, right. Well, it was late at night. They were inviting us to go to dinner with a bunch of the plays, but it was late, you know, and I didn't know, well, should I take the boys? And what's going on? And, you know, and we called dad and he said, brad. And he said, oh, who cares what time it is?
Seth Meyers
Go.
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Seth Meyers
And in the moment, Charlie, did you rise to the occasion? Do you feel like you comported yourself when. Well, when the moment came.
Charlie Hall
It's a good question.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Charlie Hall
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
Yes.
Charlie Hall
I mean, I was enough to, like, you know, words came out of my mouth. I was like, hi, nice to meet you. So that's a win, right?
Pashi
How old were you?
Henry Hall
I don't.
Seth Meyers
It was, it was.
Julie Dreyfus
You guys were teenagers?
Charlie Hall
Yeah, I think I was maybe in middle school.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah.
Charlie Hall
Yeah, I was.
Henry Hall
Yeah, maybe I was. I was in college.
Julie Dreyfus
You were Henry.
Henry Hall
Pretty sure.
Charlie Hall
I, I remember we. I wasn't sitting next to LeBron once we got there, and I was.
Seth Meyers
Ha.
Charlie Hall
I was actually really relieved at that fact. Like, I had.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, but I was.
Charlie Hall
I know you were, but you can handle it. I can't. Like, this is, you know, I couldn't handle it.
Henry Hall
It is like meeting God.
Charlie Hall
Yeah. 100%.
Henry Hall
Yeah.
Charlie Hall
100%.
Henry Hall
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
And at that point, Right. If fully. He's a guy.
Charlie Hall
Sorry.
Henry Hall
By the way, just quickly, We're. We're saying LeBron. We were talking about LeBron James.
Charlie Hall
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
Yes.
Josh
King James.
Seth Meyers
I just took my dad's from Pittsburgh. Huge Steelers fans. I just took my nine and seven year to their first Steelers game.
Charlie Hall
That's awesome.
Seth Meyers
And it was the best. It was such a fantastic weekend. Josh was there as well, and we met some of the players, but they have. They're not at the place. I think it was easier for them because they're not huge fans. Like, they haven't built up a fandom that you had for LeBron at the time. So they were just meeting larger people than they were used to.
Henry Hall
There is a.
Charlie Hall
There's a Northwestern Wildcat on the Steelers.
Josh
Brett Scronick.
Charlie Hall
That's exactly right. Good, good, good. Buddy in.
Seth Meyers
Oh, great.
Charlie Hall
Yeah. I love Ben.
Josh
Yeah. Apparently he reps Notre Dame, but we said we still come rep him as Northwestern.
Charlie Hall
100%.
Josh
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
I will say nothing to do with me and my children, but Julia, you and yours. I remember going and seeing you, Julia, at the. Was it 2016 when you guys beat Texas in. At the Barclay Center?
Charlie Hall
Yep, 2016. Jared Allen. Jared Allen was on that team. That was a good. That was a great game.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, that was fantastic. And also, like, it happened for me when I was in college when football wasn't good. And then all of a sudden they were good. Like, my friend and I went to that game just because. Oh, my God. Well, how can you miss Northwestern when they're in New York? Didn't go with a lot of expectation that Northwestern would win. It was so exciting and that it was so. We were so happy. And then the extra. There was the extra bonus of. Then we. We actually ran into you guys.
Charlie Hall
So fun. That's the thing about coming from, like, a kind of, you know, historically losing program is it feels a lot better when you win.
Seth Meyers
And was that the. That was the first tournament.
Charlie Hall
That was the tournament year. And that game, that Texas game, ended up kind of being the game where we realized that we were, like, actually good. We had our suspicions, like, you know, over the summer. I was like, huh. We. I think our players are good. And then we beat Texas and we're like, oh, wow, we are trying to do this.
Henry Hall
Brian McIntosh had a amazing game, that game. Didn't he charm?
Charlie Hall
I think Scotty played really well, too.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, I had that year. Josh went to Salt Lake.
Charlie Hall
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
Nice for the first round. And I had a very young. I think my Alexi was pregnant with our second and Ash was two. And it was just one of those things where I couldn't make the argument why I had to leave and go to Utah. But then I was so grumpy in a petulant, childish way. And she, at one point Was like, what's wrong with you? I'm like, everyone I know is in Salt Lake City. Never happens. She's like, ugh. She was like, no, sim. Because she's like, oh, my God, grow up.
Josh
But also like, we didn't. You didn't know where your team was going to play when tickets went on sale. And Seth had bought like a block of tickets to in like North Carolina, which is, you know, where. Where some of the games were. And they were great games that he ended up having tickets for. And then Northwestern won their first game, and Seth sold those tickets in North Carolina. And then for the four that were in Salt Lake, he's like, I'm gonna buy you guys tickets for the next game. Which was a great sort of turnover.
Seth Meyers
I'm assuming you were there, Julia. You went out for that?
Julie Dreyfus
You betcha.
Seth Meyers
Yeah. Must have been such an exciting time.
Julie Dreyfus
Oh, it was unbelievable. I just. I'll never forget that goaltending situation and.
Josh
Then the coach getting thrown, you know, and.
Pashi
Yeah, rightfully so. He was furious for good cause.
Josh
How do you miss that? That there was a. There was a goaltend through. Through the rim.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah. And by the way, Gonzaga.
Henry Hall
Right.
Julie Dreyfus
And Charlie, wasn't it true that after the fact, the. The National Ref association made some comment about it was.
Charlie Hall
Yeah.
Henry Hall
They issued a.
Charlie Hall
They do a thing where they. In the final X minutes of every game, they go through the calls and then if the two minutes, if there's any errors, they like, they release, you know, a document of the errors and they released it as an error. And I think even like the NCAA like issued an apology or something.
Seth Meyers
And then you get. Your team gets ref bucks that you can purchase purchases that you can then spend. Yeah, concessions.
Henry Hall
I'm still living off the merch, actually. Yeah. So I pay my rent.
Pashi
Hey, we're gonna take a quick break.
Josh
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What about toys?
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Do they have brands kids have been wanting all year?
Julie Dreyfus
Yep. Barbie, Tonys and Lego. Gifts that will make them all cheer.
Pashi
Do you mean they have all the brands I adore?
Julie Dreyfus
They have Nintendo, Nespresso, Apple and more.
Seth Meyers
What about so the who answered questions.
Pashi
From friends till they were blue?
Seth Meyers
Each one listened and shouted from Walmart.
Pashi
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Seth Meyers
Here we go. When will you guys. Will you all be together for thanksg?
Henry Hall
Oh yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
Yes.
Seth Meyers
That's fantastic. Is that historically every year, has there been an exception where you don't have the whole family together for any reason?
Julie Dreyfus
No, we've. No, but we've.
Charlie Hall
We've had weird Thanksgivings a lot.
Henry Hall
Or we're not in.
Charlie Hall
In at home because for me, when I was playing basketball, we always had to. They always had to come to me because I didn't get it off. And then we also went to. When Henry was shooting his show in London, we went to. We had Thanksgiving in London.
Henry Hall
Oh yeah, I did.
Seth Meyers
Josh and I used to live in Amsterdam and my parents would come over there for Thanksgiving. And I think Thanksgiving in a foreign country that doesn't celebrate Thanksgiving is outstanding.
Henry Hall
Yeah, it's cool.
Julie Dreyfus
It's outstanding. It's just an opportunity for a great meal elsewhere.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you also. Nothing. Nothing's closed. So you like go out and the city is like still like a cool city.
Julie Dreyfus
Completely. Yeah.
Seth Meyers
When you do Thanksgiving at home, do you have other people over or is it ever just the four of you?
Julie Dreyfus
No. When it's at home. We have extended family and friends, which is what we're having this year.
Seth Meyers
How big can it get?
Julie Dreyfus
I remember one year it was 24 people.
Seth Meyers
Gotcha.
Josh
Does it get out of hand? I don't remember.
Julie Dreyfus
That's too much. Yeah. Remember we had a table outside and we had a table inside and we used the round table for Granny and Because, remember? And then we. And then everybody. We did moving of seats, rotating around.
Henry Hall
We had a circle.
Julie Dreyfus
That was too much.
Seth Meyers
I just wanted to picture Granny alone at a very small round table.
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it was more of a Godfather situation. Like each person would go off and have their conversation with grandma.
Seth Meyers
Is this your side Granny or Brad's side granny?
Julie Dreyfus
Brad's side granny. Who's still alive. She's 97.
Seth Meyers
Gotcha.
Julie Dreyfus
And she has.
Pretty acute dementia. So I think this year she will not be joining us. However she's been joining us. I mean, she's with us every holiday in some form or another. Yeah, this year we're gonna bring her some stuff. But yeah, this year it's not quite as many. I think we're about 13 this year, which is much more manageable.
Charlie Hall
24 is insane.
Henry Hall
24 is insane.
Julie Dreyfus
It's too many. It's too. Believe me. You know, to be honest with you guys and these guys, my boys know this. I'm not a huge fan of Thanksgiving. Just not.
Charlie Hall
Not.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, okay.
Henry Hall
It's all the Thanksgiving.
Charlie Hall
Right.
Julie Dreyfus
I just.
Josh
I think she's ungrateful.
Julie Dreyfus
I am ungrateful. And I'll tell you what.
Seth Meyers
Famous, he said, maybe if I ever have something to be thankful for, I'll get this. I'll understand what.
Josh
TikTok World.
Seth Meyers
I had a. It's my favorite. Thanks. It's my favorite holiday before. And I was saying to Alexi, I'm like, why? My wife, like, why don't you get more excited? She's like, cause I do everything.
Julie Dreyfus
She's like, thank you.
Seth Meyers
She goes, you love Thanksgiving because you, like, would go and sit on the couch and like watch football while your mom cooked. And now I'm the mom and it's not a good holiday.
Julie Dreyfus
It's an enormous amount of work for what is probably about a 15 to 20 minute meal. And it's days and days of cooking and you know, you can, you know, and then. But anyway, whatever. I'm still happy everybody's coming. Cause I like. I am actually. Cause I like all this shit beforehand. It's just that once the meal's here, it's like, eh, whatever.
Josh
Does Anyone go too hard at Thanksgiving? Does anyone like really tie one on? We sort of. We famously had a bunch of neighbors over and some family one time and set up tables and like.
There was way too much wine being drunk and some of it by a gal who certainly was not of age yet but was finding some half drunk glasses that she was polishing off. Which adds an element of excitement to a holiday.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, I don't think. Has anybody misbehaved you guys?
Henry Hall
Not really. I mean, well.
The end of the everyone being sick story that one Thanksgiving. Oh, that's right, everyone's sick. Everything's going terribly. All the food is getting messed up and everything. And then the one thing that made it through all that vitriol was a pumpkin pie. It came out perfect, like dead perfect. Comes out steaming. You know, just the most delicious, delectable looking pumpkin pie you've ever seen in your life. Gets put on the counter and my little cousin comes over to it and he goes, oh man, that looks good.
He sneezes all over the pie. Snot on the pie.
Julie Dreyfus
So that was.
Henry Hall
You've never seen adults more mad at like a six year old.
Seth Meyers
They started booing.
Josh
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Henry Hall
It was insane.
Seth Meyers
Do you remember the first time.
Vacation or at home, like the first time you had drinks with both of your sons? Julia? Cuz obviously Henry has a head start but like the moment where you're like we are now a family where the children, you know, are old enough to also have wine at the table.
Julie Dreyfus
No.
Seth Meyers
Do you remember the first time you.
Josh
Got drunk with me?
Narrator/Poet
Me?
Charlie Hall
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
You immediately. I like that. Your tone immediately went back to your tone of during day drinking.
Julie Dreyfus
I do remember that. That was insane.
Seth Meyers
That was. I always tell this story because it's like such a perfect Julia story that. Cuz I say it to every time we do day drinking. I always say to the guests, I'm like, hey, just FYI, like you, you don't have to drink anything you don't want to drink. We can switch to water and you were the only one and you went, yeah, I know.
Like the amount have to drink. Yeah. I'm not trying to prove anything to you.
Julie Dreyfus
I remember when I was in college once. Oh doing like meow or whatever and there was some improv night. And before that night we had gone out and gotten drinks and I'd had a gin and Tom and I remember then getting on stage and realizing, oh my God. I mean I wasn't like drunk but I felt it and it was this terrifying feeling. And I stood at the back of the stage and did not contribute because I was terrified of, you know, it just felt like such a. It was so risky. And so when I did your show. I can't believe you do that show. I can't.
Seth Meyers
We only do it twice a year. We are very aware there's a tipping point where our audience collectively says sir, you're 51.
You have children. Sir, you have children at home.
Henry Hall
No, do it more. That's when I love the day drinking show.
Julie Dreyfus
Please do it more.
Henry Hall
Not to enable me.
Seth Meyers
I mean it never doesn't work work, but it is. You know, there's, there's a huge, there's a, a. There's a medical cost.
Julie Dreyfus
There is a medical cost. You know, there's what? There's one vacation story that I have to tell you guys about with these boys that is in our part of our family history. And it was around.
New Year's, the Y2K year.
So that would have made Charlie 3 and Henry 8 and. Is that right guys?
Henry Hall
No, that's.
Charlie Hall
I can't do math.
Julie Dreyfus
I don't know no 2 and 7. Cause it would have been 1999 going into 2000.
Henry Hall
Wow, Mom, Einstein over here.
Pashi
Good math.
Julie Dreyfus
Thanks honey. So anyway, I don't know if people remember but that year there was all of this like you gotta do something. It's New Year's, we're going into this whole. Into 2000. It's going to be unbelievable. And so we opted sort of to not do a whole hullabaloo for New Year's. And we went, we were skiing and some friends had invited us over to their house for a New Year's party. And we decided because of the importance of this particular date we were going to bring the boys and let them stay up late. And so we got to their house and we're having a nice time. And it gets to be about 11 o' clock and it's become quite ev that each of the boys has got to go to bed. It is way too late for a 2 year old and a 7 year old to be up. So I say to Brad, we gotta get outta here. I know staying up till midnight, but we just can't do it. It's ridiculous. So Henry was disappointed we put him into the car. But the kids are wigged. Okay, wigged, tired, wigged out. We put em both into the car, Charlie's in the car seat, we're driving back to this hotel. It's snowing like crazy and it's dark. And.
Henry says to Brad, daddy, do you Believe in the Abominable Snowman.
Understand? Everybody's tired. And Brad says, no, I don't, honey. And anyone who does believe in the Abominable snowman is crazy. And Henry goes.
Don'T. Well, I believe in the Abominable Snowman, Daddy. And that means you think I'm crazy. I'm gonna kill you. He starts screaming. At which point Charlie in the car seat starts to scream hysterically. Don't kill my daddy. And they are going, but I mean, screaming like he really thought his 7 year old brother was gonna kill his own father. And they are screaming hysterically. And it is the worst New Year's of our life. And I become. It is so outrageous that I become hysterical laughing. And then the kids see me laughing and they get more crying. And Brad is like, jules, shut up. Shut up. Anyway, that was our. That was New year's.
Henry Hall
Oh, God.
Julie Dreyfus
Y2K. That's my story.
Seth Meyers
Thank God he didn't kill Brad. Cause just telling the story of why.
You know, it's never looked, you know, patricide, I believe I never called for. But just because of the Abominable Snowman.
Charlie Hall
That's tough.
Julie Dreyfus
I know. You really would have to get a real good lawyer. You'd really need the lawyer what wears the cowboy hat, right?
Seth Meyers
Oh, Simpsons reference, by the way. A different time, thanks to YouTube. But I remember a couple years ago, our kids wanted to stay up till New Year's. And I'm like, they're never gonna make it. And Alexi was like, they're not gonna make it. And then she just went on YouTube and played the previous years, like put on YouTube TV and played the ball dropping at like 8:45. And I was like, I'm married to the smartest woman.
Charlie Hall
Wow, that's really smart.
Julie Dreyfus
That is stone cold genius time manipulation.
Seth Meyers
She's like, we also. You guys made it.
Josh
We've been in Seth's wife's from New Mexico and there are some casinos nearby and they celebrate New Year's Eve at noon. And if you're in the casino at noon, they like pass out champagne and there's a hole to do. And so we've definitely popped down for New Year's Eve.
Seth Meyers
And it's really cool. Cause then the cool thing is the rest of the day you smell like cigarettes. That's perfect.
Julie Dreyfus
And booze.
Josh
There's still smoking in there.
Pashi
Just.
Josh
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
You don't want to be in an Albuquerque casino on New Year's Eve.
Henry Hall
I'm just going to say you don't, huh?
Seth Meyers
I know. It's Shocking. This has been so lovely to talk to you guys, but we do, before you go, Josh is going to ask you all our speed round questions. And you all have to answer every question. Question.
Julie Dreyfus
Also, before you do, I'm taking a family photo. Everybody smile.
Charlie Hall
Yes.
Henry Hall
Take it with your phone.
Julie Dreyfus
I am, honey.
Seth Meyers
Okay, good.
Henry Hall
Good.
Seth Meyers
Also, I'm going to just ask because you guys are straight talkers. Tacky or cool that I'm wearing a sweatshirt from my own show?
Henry Hall
Super honestly.
Charlie Hall
Cool.
Seth Meyers
Okay.
Charlie Hall
Because.
Seth Meyers
Because I don't love it.
Pashi
All right.
Julie Dreyfus
You know, when I was 7 years old and we were in. We were in Rome staying at some hotel, and Ed Sullivan was staying there at the same time. And didn't he come down to the pool wearing a hat that said Ed Sullivan?
Seth Meyers
Oh, that's awesome. I wouldn't do it in public. I wouldn't do it in public, but still.
Julie Dreyfus
Well, you're in public right now.
Seth Meyers
It's true. Yeah.
Pashi
He's on Zoom.
Josh
For a thing that's being taped to.
Pashi
Be put out into the world.
Seth Meyers
You got me dead to rights. It's in public. I take it back. Me and Ed Sullivan are the same.
Charlie Hall
I won't name names, but I once saw it on. On Abbott Canyon in la. I saw an NBA player one time wearing a shirt with his face on it.
Henry Hall
Wow.
Charlie Hall
Which I thought was a super interesting choice. Kind of. Actually, I kind of loved it.
Julie Dreyfus
I kind of love it, too. But can't you tell us who it was?
Charlie Hall
No, I don't want to. I don't know why, but I don't want to.
Seth Meyers
Yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
All right.
Charlie Hall
I'm scared.
Seth Meyers
Just tell us who was on the shirt. Yeah, okay, fine. D'.
Charlie Hall
Angelo. Russell.
Henry Hall
Oh, love, Russ. I was once at a party with someone related to Ernest Hemingway somehow. And we're all chatting and someone's talking, going through something in their lives, extolling some issue they were having. And this person who was related to her same way goes. Oh, wow, that's. You know, you should check out this book. It's called the Sun Also Rises.
That's awesome.
Josh
Yeah.
Henry Hall
And she had already said that she was related to. She was like, recommending her.
Charlie Hall
Whatever.
Henry Hall
He was. Great uncle's book. Yeah, yeah. No, we know the son also, right?
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
I mean, obviously not as well as me because I'm related to him, but a lot. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Henry Hall
Anyway.
Seth Meyers
All right.
Josh
All right, here we go. Speed round. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation. Relaxing, adventurous, or educational?
Charlie Hall
Relaxing.
Julie Dreyfus
Adventurous.
Henry Hall
Adventurous for me, too.
Seth Meyers
Okay, Relax.
Josh
What is your favorite means of transportation.
Julie Dreyfus
Car.
Seth Meyers
What?
Charlie Hall
Plane.
Julie Dreyfus
Feet. Feet.
Seth Meyers
Feet. Oh, yeah, feet.
Josh
Feet.
Charlie Hall
Wait, I changed mine to feet. Great call Mom.
Seth Meyers
Gotcha.
Julie Dreyfus
Okay, thanks, honey.
Josh
If you could take a vacation with.
Pashi
Any family, alive or dead, real or.
Josh
Fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with?
Charlie Hall
Coach Taylor. Friday Night Lights.
Seth Meyers
His perfect answer.
Henry Hall
Nice, Charlie.
Julie Dreyfus
Oh, Henry. I know who you're going to say.
Josh
Yeah, I think I do, too.
Charlie Hall
What?
Seth Meyers
The. The Hemingways. The.
Josh
The Sims.
Pashi
The Sim.
Henry Hall
Yeah, the.
Josh
Maybe I don't know your answer.
Pashi
The Griffins.
Henry Hall
The Griffins. I'll zag.
Seth Meyers
As in Family Guy.
Henry Hall
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
Well, I'm going to say the Simpsons.
Seth Meyers
Okay, great.
Charlie Hall
Okay, great nightmare vacation, but okay.
Julie Dreyfus
I know. I'm just trying to be clever.
Josh
All right, this one could get. Could get sticky with three family members here.
Pashi
If you had to be stranded on.
Josh
A desert island with one member of your family, who would it be?
Charlie Hall
No offense. Mom, I'm going. Henry.
Julie Dreyfus
Henry.
Henry Hall
Yeah, I'm going. Charlie. Mom.
Julie Dreyfus
So you know what? I'm going with my sister Lauren. So fuck you guys.
All right.
Josh
Julie, you're from New York City. If you had to pitch New York City to get more families to come visit, how would you do it?
Julie Dreyfus
Central Park. Yeah, there's something there for everyone.
Pashi
True.
Josh
And then, boys, you're both la.
Pashi
You're both from Los Angeles.
Josh
If you had to pitch Los Angeles to get more families to come visit, how would you do it? Henry? First.
Henry Hall
Okay.
I would say.
The Ripley's Believe it or not wax music.
Josh
Yeah, we have that. All right, Charlie, can you beat that?
Charlie Hall
My zoom cut out for a second, but I would say Ripley's Believe it or Not.
Henry Hall
Good choice. Yeah, good choice.
Charlie Hall
Tar. What was your answer, Henry?
Henry Hall
Dude, it was actually Ripley's Believer or Not.
Seth Meyers
Yeah, I mean, can you believe it?
Josh
When is the last time either of you has been to the Ripley's Believe it or not museum?
Charlie Hall
We went this morning.
Henry Hall
This morning.
Josh
You guys got right back from Indonesia.
Seth Meyers
You were like, I gotta.
Josh
I gotta.
Charlie Hall
We actually do have to get out. We have a hard out. Because we're going back.
Josh
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
You guys are the Norm Peterson of Ripley's Believe it or Not.
Narrator/Poet
Hey, Charlie.
Josh
And then Seth has our final question.
Seth Meyers
Have you guys been to the Grand Canyon?
Henry Hall
Yes, we have.
Seth Meyers
Was it worth it? It.
Julie Dreyfus
Yes.
Henry Hall
Oh, yeah, big time.
Charlie Hall
That was one of.
Pashi
We.
Charlie Hall
Yeah, we went. That was probably. That's a. That's a top tier. Top three, probably family trip ever for us was. We did. We did river rafting down the Grand Canyon and it was how many.
Seth Meyers
Was it a multiple day trip?
Henry Hall
Yeah, week one.
Seth Meyers
It was a week.
Charlie Hall
Two weeks. A week?
Henry Hall
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
Oh, my God, yeah. Yeah. Fantastic.
Julie Dreyfus
We did. We did the top half, the canyon and. Or the river, and it's a trip that we would want to go back to, by the way.
Seth Meyers
All right. It's very. A resounding support.
Julie Dreyfus
Can I redo my pitch for New York?
Josh
Yeah, please, sure.
Henry Hall
Ripley's Believe it or Not Wax Museum, New York.
Julie Dreyfus
What? No, there isn't one there. Otherwise, of course, I would use that.
There is less dog shit now than there was when I was little. I think that's a selling point.
Josh
Yeah.
Julie Dreyfus
Yeah, that's it.
Seth Meyers
I once had David Byrne on the show and I was like, tell me about, like, is New York in, like, the late 70s, early 80s, as cool as I wanted to be? And the one thing he said, he. It was awesome, but it smelled. There was so much dog shit.
Julie Dreyfus
Well, can you believe that people didn't pick up their dog shit?
Seth Meyers
It's crazy.
Josh
I can't believe anytime it ever happens and it happens around where I live all the time. And my wife just, like, is furious and wants to set up cameras everywhere. And I'm not. I'm kind of with her.
Julie Dreyfus
It's sort of appalling. But I mean, it's sort of. It's kind of like people smoking and then just throwing their cigarette butts on.
Charlie Hall
The ground that I like.
Julie Dreyfus
Oh, you do?
Josh
Yeah.
Seth Meyers
I like when they can throw it with their aims Good enough. They can make it land in the dog shit.
Charlie Hall
Yep.
Seth Meyers
Like when it sticks up so the flames go. The smoke's coming up.
Pashi
Yeah.
Josh
So it looks like a cupcake with a birthday candle.
Henry Hall
Aw.
Seth Meyers
That's what the kids. It's a teen thing. It's called Cupcake in. Where you try to throw a lit cigarette into a dog shit.
Henry Hall
And then with my cousin's sneeze on it too. I know a cousin who could give a good sneeze to that cupcake.
Seth Meyers
Thank you, guys. Check out season four of Wiser Than Me. And gentlemen, it was great to see you both. This was just wonderful.
Henry Hall
Thank you guys so much.
Julie Dreyfus
It was fun to talk to you. I hope it edits together good.
Josh
Oh, yeah, there's no edits. No edits.
Julie Dreyfus
Oh, sorry. Yeah, for that. All right, well, sorry. Okay.
Josh
All right.
Seth Meyers
Go cats. Go Cats.
Charlie Hall
Go cats. Baby.
Narrator/Poet
Sat snowman.
Pashi
Went to Africa for fun.
Narrator/Poet
Told the boys they couldn't run Cause they got big cats.
Should have thought about that.
Went to a rainforest with tarantulas where fish swim up your urethras better than Thanksgiving it doesn't DC when a plague descended on their family oh it knocked them down just like dominoes.
Everyone was sick uncles and aunts the three year old cousin their pants oh only bright spot was the pumpkin piece was just pristine perfect and hot until his knees covered it with snot no if you want bad let's talk new years.
When the boys were really Young.
Josh
Was.
Narrator/Poet
The Y2K year.
With the total lack of cheer Julia saw that it was clear.
Had to get these boys out of here.
Do you believe in the abominable snowman.
Brad said I don't and if you do then you have probably gone cuckoo Brad and wrest said I do so that means.
You think I'm crazy which I can't stand so now I gotta kill you dead o that made little Charlie cry.
He thrashed and kicked in his car seat scream demon don't kill daddy oh for some reason Julia just left.
A case of giggle she had caught Brad said stop but she could not know.
Podcast: Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers
Hosts: Seth Meyers & Josh Meyers
Episode: Julia Louis-Dreyfus & Sons Went Crazy Over The Abominable Snowman
Date: December 9, 2025
In this lively episode, Seth and Josh Meyers welcome iconic actress Julia Louis-Dreyfus and her sons Henry Hall and Charlie Hall for a heartfelt, hilarious conversation about the Hall-Louis-Dreyfus family’s most memorable and disaster-prone vacations. Together, they reminisce about chaotic Thanksgivings, adventures from Scotland to the Serengeti, sibling rivalries, celebrity encounters, and the infamous "Abominable Snowman" meltdown.
The episode shines as a celebration of family dynamics—how travel mishaps and traditions become legend, and how warmth, wit, and a little madness make for the best stories.
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“We went to ski resorts in the humid month of August… Another activity was just trying to find boys, which I never seemed to find.”
— Julia Louis-Dreyfus (14:06–15:57)
“We carry around a plague wherever we go.”
— Henry Hall (22:56)
"If a pink toe tarantula does bite you, it can cause impotence."
— Julie Louis-Dreyfus (42:34)
“I love LeBron in a way that’s certainly unhealthy. No question about it… The moment was too big for me.”
— Charlie Hall (46:33–46:58)
“Henry goes, ‘Don’t… I believe in the Abominable Snowman, Daddy…and that means you think I’m crazy. I’m gonna kill you.’ He starts screaming. At which point, Charlie…starts to scream hysterically, ‘Don’t kill my daddy!’”
— Julia Louis-Dreyfus (66:49–67:34)
“So fuck you guys. I’m going with my sister Lauren.”
— Julia Louis-Dreyfus (72:40)
“Can I redo my pitch for New York? There’s less dog shit now than there was when I was little.”
— Julia Louis-Dreyfus (74:46–75:01)
The tone is witty, playful, and unvarnished—with the Meyers brothers riffing and improvising alongside Julia and her sons, whose own dry humor and sibling energy fit perfectly. Julia’s candor, especially about parenting now-grown sons and enduring holiday chaos, keeps the conversation both relatable and riotous.
If you love family lore, generational gags, or just want to feel better about your own vacation disasters, this episode delivers warmth and laughter in abundance.
The Hall-Louis-Dreyfus clan proves that the best family trips are dictated not by flawless execution, but by togetherness, humor, and the willingness to turn any disaster into a cherished story.
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