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Molly Gordon
Hey, buddy.
Josh
Hey, Sufi.
Seth
How are you?
Josh
I'm great.
Seth
How are you? Good. I just had a nice weekend with the Poncas.
Josh
Oh, yeah?
Seth
Yeah. Really fun.
Josh
The way you said yeah. Didn't really sound like it was fun.
Seth
But it was great. I don't know why I said it like that. An interesting thing happened with the nomenclature of Poncas, because in my head, I would say that dad is Ponca yeri and mom is Ponca hurry. But somewhere along the lines now she's just hurry and he's punky. Okay. Yeah. So Axel's like, punky, and it's pretty great. Like, I just. How it's all changing is very fun.
Josh
Yeah. And also hurry has always been hurry, even to us.
Seth
Yeah, it's real good, and I like it. And we had a lovely time with them. They were very happy to see him. Their favorite thing to do because we have a guest room for them above the garage. Yep. And 8am the three kids are so excited to run upstairs, and they go up there and they jump in bed, and then they all have a bowl of cereal and a bunch of blueberries. And then they do something, much to the chagrin of Alexi. And do you know what the last thing they do? Dad gives them some toothpaste to eat. And, like, look, sometimes Alexi has, you know, some rules where I'm like, oh, honey, please. It's grandparents. You just gotta let him do stuff.
Josh
Yeah.
Seth
With that said, I don't know how dad decided to start feeding him toothpaste.
Josh
He never fed us toothpaste.
Seth
He never fed anybody toothpaste. It's crazy. And then he also. If. If. Like, there's a thing with kids where you kind of hope they'll forget, Right? Like, even on mornings where they don't ask, he's like, oh, everybody come get their toothpaste. It's like. Like, it's. There's some medicinal value to, like, sucking on Dad's tube of Crest or whatever the it is.
Josh
I feel like they used to be, like Toms of Maine people, which at least would.
Seth
They might be Tom's a Mane. I shouldn't. I shouldn't. You know. You know what? We'll just. If any. We'll. We'll get a toothpaste sponsor. We'll just dub it in.
Josh
Yeah. And since, you know, since I talked to mom and dad when they got back, was that cereal. I'm guessing it was byob.
Seth
Oh, definitely byoc. Yeah.
Josh
But byob.
Seth
Byo.
Josh
Gotta bring your own bowl up there.
Seth
No, I think we did they. We had bowls for them up there.
Josh
Okay.
Seth
Yeah, we. Did they say they didn't have bowls.
Josh
Yeah, I heard no bowls.
Seth
I mean. Well, it's not. I mean, by the way, they don't have a full kitchen up there. It's just a counter, so.
Josh
Yeah, but you're right.
Seth
I should get. By the way, I went out of my way this time. I had gin, I had tonic. I had pre. I had two kinds of pretzels.
Josh
Oh, that's good.
Seth
Hummus. Yeah, I had spin drifts up there.
Josh
Great.
Seth
I mean, I did my best. I'm sorry they had to byo bees.
Josh
I mean, just you know what.
Seth
You know what they could do for me? Lyocs. You know what that is?
Josh
Leave your own, uh, crest complaints. Oh, license your own complaints.
Seth
I leave was good. You got that? Yeah. Leave your own complaints.
Josh
Okay.
Seth
Um, yeah. But anyway, the real takeaway is the kids. I mean, you could eat off their teeth right now. Yeah.
Josh
Well, that's nice. I feel like kids generally might have some pretty janky stuff going on in their teeth.
Seth
I will tell you, Axel, you know, he's got. At this point, I'm like, I don't think the adult teeth are coming in. He's losing baby teeth. And then it's just. I mean, you could fly a small plane through the gaps in that dude's teeth.
Josh
Yeah. I. While you were hosting mom and dad, I was in the city of sin, Las Vegas, this last year for our good friend.
Seth
Our good friend had a bachelor party.
Josh
Yeah. Brendan Hunt's bachelor party. It was so much fun, truly. 10 out of 10, we went to NBA Summer League, which was great. And I gotta say, like, before this weekend was even a thing, before I was invited to this thing, before I knew it was happening. Michael Ury was a guest on our podcast, the best. Excellent. And he was talking about the sphere.
Seth
Yeah.
Josh
And he's like, I can't wait. You know, I'll see anything at the sphere. He's like, I'm excited for, like, the Backstreet boys now coming out of the pandemic. I feel like I've talked about it here. I bought tickets to see the backstreet boys at the Hollywood bowl. And I thought, like, this is, like, this is gonna be fun for Mackenzie and I to go to. And it was so much fun. It was great.
Seth
Like, you loved it.
Josh
I loved it. And so after talking to Yuri, I was home with mom and dad. We're playing golf on the eighth tee, and my mom's like, you're up and I'm like, I need a minute. Tickets just went on sale at the Sphere for this Backstreet Boys thing. So I buy tickets to the Backstreet Boys for August. Then I get invited to this bachelor party. And in the sort of planning and the back and forth and the big text chain, somebody at some point's like, hey, should we go see the Backstreet Boys at the Sphere? And I'm like, no way. Is, like, nine dudes going to Vegas or the Backstreet Boys at the Sphere. Yeah.
Seth
Does not seem like a. A classic bachelor party move.
Josh
Not at all. But, like, I'm gonna do what the group's gonna do, and we go to this thing. I've seen them, and I like them, so I'm excited. A lot of people, I think, are like, we're doing what now? And to a man, everyone was blown away. If you think you might like this show, you gotta see this show. It's like, it was my first time in the Sphere, so very impressed with the technology, but just so impressed with them as a group that's been doing it for so long.
Seth
How long was the show?
Josh
It's like, I don't know. It felt like it was the perfect length of a show. It was maybe like two hours. Like Vegas.
Seth
No opener. Opener or no, no opener, I like that, too.
Josh
Also, like, when they're playing music before they come out, guess who is on their mix?
Seth
Backstreet Boys.
Josh
Yes.
Seth
Yeah.
Josh
They got enough stuff. They don't need anybody else.
Seth
So they're playing stuff they're not gonna do in the concert.
Josh
Yeah.
Seth
Great. Love it.
Josh
And MacKenzie, before I went, was like, look, like, we don't. We can sell those tickets. We don't have to go. And I was like, well, you know, we already have the flights booked, and we've got the hotel, and, you know, I think we should go. And as soon as it was over, I was just so excited that I'm gonna get to see it again and that I'm gonna get to bring McKinley. Yeah.
Seth
Fantastic.
Josh
I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled.
Seth
I knew you liked the show because mom and I called you, and you told us you liked the show, and then we hung up. And then dad came down. He was in the bathroom, and he came down, and mom told him word for word, everything you'd said about the show. So I got to hear it twice. Also, while we were FaceTiming with you, I was trying to feed the kids, and I kept saying to mom, take the phone. Take the phone. And she just couldn't Comprehend what I was asking. And does it mean that I brought this up? Yeah, but so's the bowl thing. You know what? I'm gonna get that, Pasci. I'm gonna get them two little dog bowls. Cause they're a couple of dirty dogs. Oh, yeah.
Josh
I FaceTime with mom and dad the other day, and dad was holding the phone for a while, and then I guess his arm got tired and he gave it to mom to hold, and she was holding it, and her other arm, her elbow, she kept, like, reaching her arm behind her head, and her elbow was like an inch away from dad's face. And I kept saying, like, you're going to elbow dad, and he's also not moving his head. And it didn't happen, but it was. It's amazing that it didn't happen. And it was a very slow motion car crash kind of situation.
Seth
I will tell you this because I feel like I gotta get some praise in there. Dad, look good. Daddy looks good right now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Josh
He looks good. Actually, I just saw a picture from our live show of him on stage just holding his hands out, like, soaking in the praise, and it's just great.
Seth
I'm about to crush.
Josh
Great shot of Ponky. Yeah.
Seth
This was a wonderful conversation with our friend Molly Gordon.
Josh
Yeah.
Seth
I'd only met her once in passing, and it was very. I really enjoyed our conversation with her. She prayed on the bear. She's got a new movie called Ojai. And then again, we open with me showering her with praise about her movie she stars in with Ben Platt called Theater Camp, which I highly recommend. And sing a little Backstreet Boys as we go out here.
Josh
Da da. Don't go breaking my heart. Breaking my heart. Cause it's the only one I got to.
Seth
Now I feel like I don't need to go.
Molly Gordon
This is the only one I got.
Seth
Thank you.
Josh
That's off the newish album.
Seth
Oh, great. That's fantastic. I thought you were gonna say it's off key.
Josh
Oh, and off key.
Seth
All right, who's not off key? Jeff Tweedy, Take it away.
Josh
Family trips with the Maest bro. Family chips with. Here we go.
Seth
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
Guys, it took me 45 minutes to put a. To turn this on, but we're here.
Seth
Oh, my God.
Josh
I didn't even know what that was. That looked like, like, the original vape.
Seth
It looked like a Taser. It looked like a police taser. So are we? Are we?
Josh
I had to get super stoned before.
Molly Gordon
Yeah, I'm really thinking about it.
Seth
Did you Glean from this, Molly, that you're maybe not crushing it with tech.
Molly Gordon
I don't understand tech at all.
Josh
Okay, theater kid. Theater kid, man.
Seth
Yeah, yeah, There you go. They definitely. They divide you early on in the theater world, either on stage or tech.
Molly Gordon
100%. No. When I got this stuff, I hadn't opened it yet. And then last night I opened it and I was like, oh, this is really bad. Like, I'm not gonna be able to.
Seth
So you just saw it and knew it was gonna be a disaster immediately.
Molly Gordon
Like, the SD card threw me. I was like, I don't think this is going to be able to go into my computer. I need it. Like, it's not going to go in your computer. It's going to go in the recorder. I was like, there's a recorder? I didn't understand.
Seth
I thought, it's heartbreaking when there's little letters on it that you don't even know what they stand for. No, they're like, you need an SD card. And you're like, I don't even know what those are for.
Molly Gordon
I'm just like, don't you think this is the stuff we should be taught in school? Like, what was the point of school for me not to know this type of stuff?
Seth
Well, it changes so fast. I. Not to date myself, but I remember I went to film school in the late 90s, and I feel like they taught me how to edit on a machine that when I graduated, they were throwing in the garbage.
Josh
Yeah. We were physically cutting film and taping it together.
Seth
So my entire. And so I can't even imagine how fast it's turning over now. But, you know, I think the podcasters of tomorrow, they are figuring it out at a much younger age.
Molly Gordon
100%, Josh.
Josh
Also, if it's any consolation, when Seth shows up somewhere with his gear, it is all plugged in, like, in a suitcase, and it has little pieces at the end of each cord. It tells you where you're supposed to put it. It's. It's very.
Seth
It's like, what were those? Granimals. Those, like, where it would tell you, like, which. Like, it was like, underpants for kids. Like, they would tell you, like, where to. You would match up a giraffe with a giraffe to know you were wearing the right thing.
Molly Gordon
And I wear those, actually.
Seth
Yeah.
Josh
Good.
Seth
And yet you couldn't figure out your tech. Weird. Josh mentioned. I just want to open because I feel like, you know, lest somebody late in the podcast has something to do, I want to shout out theater Camp. Because it is such a good movie and I just, I know you co wrote it and co directed it and it's so well realized and such a delight. And I feel like it's a great summer movie if people are looking for something to watch.
Molly Gordon
So that means the world coming from you. And I'm such a big fan of the podcast and both of you and Seth, your show, I watch religiously, so I'm such a fan. That's so sweet. I think you're like, one of, you're like the two people that have seen it. So it means the world.
Josh
No, it's universally beloved in the circles that I run in. It really is. So if you've somehow missed it now, this summer I think is a great time to pick it up.
Seth
I also think, you know, and again, obviously we all want our work to be like huge box office hits and stuff. It is very cool to make something that will be good whenever anybody watches it. And I feel like that's what theater camp is because I think for anybody who's experienced anything like that or met people like that, it is just so well observed. And then I wanted to ask, though, because he. You were friends with Ben and Beanie forever. That is you in the footage with Ben.
Molly Gordon
Yes.
Seth
So again, not to give too much away, but there is a opening.
Molly Gordon
Don't give it away. No. Two years later, like, being like, dude.
Seth
But there's footage of you guys, kids together, you and Ben Platt at theater camp. And he looks exactly the same. And I asked because you look different.
Molly Gordon
But Ben has, like, you've gotten work done. Ben hasn't yet.
Seth
So in time, Ben will be unrecognizable.
Molly Gordon
But yeah, yeah, Ben and I have this. Have so much footage and we've. We. That. No, you know, we're the kind of people that are like, come over and watch videos of us as children. And everyone's like, no, I thought this was like a drinks thing. And so we made a film that we could actually put it into. But yeah, I mean, he was that talented at 5 years old. Like, his voice is. He has one of the best voices in the world. And I was more finding my way. So if that video had any sound, you would see that I wasn't ready yet. He was already like a professional actor at that time. But we met at community theater when we were three and four.
Seth
Wow. So you are LA kids.
Molly Gordon
Yes.
Seth
And you are also. How young were you when you guys met Beanie Feldstein?
Molly Gordon
Beanie came into the fold when my friend Matisse and I had an idea to. If we were gonna do theater, we had to give back, obviously, through our theater, which was a beautiful want. But then we decided to create a group called the Theater Geeks of America.
Seth
Great.
Molly Gordon
And. Which, you know, and I. No one was interested in me romantically at the time. Now I look back on it and I understand it. At the time, I was very confused.
Seth
Yeah. If you give yourself the title theater geek.
Molly Gordon
Yes. And Ben. We asked Ben to be a part of it. And then Ben was like, can my friend Beanie, who goes to high school with me, join? And that's where I met her. And I was like, you're incredible. You're more nerdy than I am. More into this. And we performed at the Roxy, a night of musical theater songs and Beatles medleys.
Seth
Oh, great.
Molly Gordon
And it's actually horrible. Ben sounded bad that night. It's like, it just did not.
Seth
It was so bad. Ben sounded bad.
Molly Gordon
Ben sounded bad.
Josh
So this is a weird LA thing. Like, I've got friends who have, like, kids who have started bands and they will, like, they'll play a place like the Roxy or like the Key Club. And I feel like LA really supports kids that want to, like, put on shows. And then you can play, like a legit famous club on the strip and, like, everybody comes out for it or I don't know if you had everyone come out for yours or if it was under attended.
Molly Gordon
It was. It was. It was very much attended. But I think it's also that, like, people don't see live shows as much, so they were like, oh, we can actually have people come because it'll be like parents that want it. We could fill a room with these children. Great. Play it. Play at the Roxy, you know?
Seth
So fun.
Molly Gordon
Yeah.
Seth
Now, you do not have siblings, is that correct?
Molly Gordon
No, I'm an only child.
Seth
But you definitely found your way into a community as quickly as you could.
Molly Gordon
Yeah. I mean, I think that my parents putting me in that community theater program was, like, life changing. And I found such kindred spirits. And my parents did a really good job of, like, having family friends be family, but I was still, like, a lonely weirdo freak.
Seth
Were they in the business at all?
Molly Gordon
Yes. So let's just get Nepo out there. Let's just bring it into.
Seth
Oh, yeah, great. I love it.
Molly Gordon
Let's throw it in. Yeah. I mean, my parents are both. They. Both. They started as actors, weren't getting that much traction in that space. My dad was working more in commercials. He said that he was like the guy that wouldn't take the, like, he. He wouldn't take the product for, like, hair commercials. And they'd like, show his hair and be like, this guy hasn't taken the product. This guy has.
Seth
He was the before picture.
Molly Gordon
He was the before picture. And my mom did a little theater. A little, but it wasn't. It wasn't finding its way. So both of them started writing and directing and. Yeah, so they were. And they've had many years of success and then many years of it not working. And it was just. I feel like growing up, I don't know, I always think, like, what. The leg up that I have is obviously access and all these things, but they knew how to spin so many plates because they knew that most things weren't going to work out. And so I just remember, like, my mom, like, moving to New York to do a movie and then like, it fell apart and like, coming home and being like, who? How am I going to get another job? And like, oh, I have this other thing I'm writing. Like, they just never have just one.
Seth
Thing at a time.
Molly Gordon
Yes, exactly.
Seth
It must be so valuable as well to, you know, it's a part of like, depo that people sort of ignore, which is like, you. What, you see failure.
Molly Gordon
Yes.
Seth
Because, you know, I think the scariest thing about having kids who get into this business is the ones who have no sense of exactly how hard it is. Because of course, from the outside, we only see the successes. So I would imagine probably a hard thing to see as a kid, but so valuable now that you're actually doing it as a career.
Molly Gordon
Yeah. Also, like, I was just talking to my mom about like, the rotten tomatoes of it all, and she was like, it was so funny. Like, I remember getting a horrible review for a film and dad going to like, the local newsstand and buying all the papers. Cause it was like, gonna be one bad day in my life of these reviews. And now it's like, it's public and it's like it's this number that comes out. It just wasn't this thing. But it was still obviously painful. But now she's like, it's way more painful. Cause you can't escape it.
Josh
Right?
Molly Gordon
Yeah.
Josh
I mean, you could just not read it, but I guess everyone knows it.
Seth
Yeah.
Josh
It follows you around.
Molly Gordon
Well, the number, they like, announce the number. So it's hard.
Josh
Yes, I see.
Seth
Yeah. Yeah. The number is not. It's not great to have a number. I will say the. The same is true of like, a great review. Used to mean more Too. Yes. You know, because the most exciting thing is when you. And again, I would imagine, you know, certainly the bear and. But, you know, I knew about theater camp because it did make a lot of year end lists and I. I don't know if I would have been predisposed to see that movie. And then I read about it and there's something so special about a person who sees your work and actually like writes about it in a way that is as thoughtful and as considered as you were when you made the work. And so that's a bummer too when it gets, you know, like, it's more fun to read a great review than here. 88. You're like, oh, yeah, totally.
Molly Gordon
Also, you know, you guys know from comedy, like, comedy gets fucking shot on. Like, they're literally like, oh, you wanted to make people laugh. How dare you?
Seth
Like, oh, it's the worst.
Molly Gordon
Yeah, it's so for theater camp to have people, you know, it's. I'm so proud of the heart and the. Yeah. And like the specificity of the film. But it's also a stupid, you know, there's a lot of silly stuff and for anyone to, to talk about it in a serious way, it was so meaningful to not. Yeah. Because I've been in comedies where they've been like, literally, how dare these people make this film.
Seth
Yeah, I know.
Josh
And then like a middling horror movie is like, oh, that's an 82.
Seth
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
Yeah. They're like 82. Someone dies, someone dies.
Josh
That bad superhero movie audience score is like 106, like out of a hundred.
Seth
I say this as a big old fan. Josh will tell you, I read comic books. I love the superhero movies. Went mainstream. It's the best. I just saw the new Superman in theater. It was a joy. But it is crazy how there was like 10 years where like every superhero movie was like 94. I'm like, I think you all scared. I think you all scared of superhero fans and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Molly Gordon
They are. Yeah. They. They will fight and kill for their.
Seth
For. Yes.
Molly Gordon
For their people.
Seth
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Josh
Nothing much, Sufi.
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What's that?
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Yeah.
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Thank goodness.
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I prefer high speed data.
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I like unlimited, ideally.
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Well, I mean, ideally I would be going to Baltimore.
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Now, when I'm eating my food, I'm assuming I'm just looking at a brick wall.
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I'm assuming there's no place with breezy harbor vibes.
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Molly Gordon
Here we go.
Seth
Did you. Were you a family trip? Family?
Molly Gordon
Well, this is what is was fun about. I'm actually with my, my parents right now and, and when I told them I was doing this podcast, we might, when I do anything, I kind of have to go into the writer's room with my family and we're like, you know, we're breaking.
Seth
We appreciate that. We appreciate anybody who, you know, does the work.
Molly Gordon
I, you know, they're like, what's the bit? Have you worked on it? You know, I'm like, no, it's more of a conversation. They're like, okay, have you memorized it? I'm like, no. And then I'll tell the story. And they're like, that angle's not working. Hold on. I don't need to enable.
Josh
Are they writing to you that like, oh, bail, bail.
Molly Gordon
Yeah. My dad's like, it's not working. It's not working. But we, because my parents are artists and freelance trips were like, interesting. Like, I was always, you know, growing up in la. I think I went to a school with that, you know, that had such immense wealth compared to my family. And everyone would be going on family trips. And I would be like, why are we not going on a trip? And my mom would be like, cause I might be getting a job. I don't know. And now I understand that because I Know that in a week my whole life could change. And, you know, I might have to move to Korea, but I might not do anything. And people are always like, can we plan something? And I'm like, well, I don't know. This might happen. This. And so my parents both had that, so we would plan stuff kind of the week before. And my mom is really scrappy and she would like, lie. Lie to get. Because we wouldn't, you know, it would be more expensive. So lie to get. We'd always be staying in like a hotel room that was like, for a couple that just got divorced that was like. That was like supposed to stay in that room or the room was like a little fucked up, but they were letting someone stay in it for a discounted price. Like, it was just a weird. It was always last minute. And I think I didn't understand why until I started working more.
Seth
Got it. Yeah.
Josh
It is such a fear. Like, you know, as someone who got. Came to LA, like 22 years ago, you're always like, I just don't. I can't book anything because I might book something. And then when you do book a trip, that's when you do book a commercial.
Molly Gordon
Exactly. Or you mostly just don't book anything. But it's like you live in the fear of that.
Seth
Yeah, yeah.
Josh
And you're like, well, I had an appointment the week I was supposed to be gone, so I don't know, maybe I had to be here for that.
Molly Gordon
I think the biggest kind of trips that we would take. Seth, I'm bringing you into the space. Are to Martha's Vineyard.
Seth
Oh, really?
Molly Gordon
Yeah.
Seth
So all the way from the West Coast.
Molly Gordon
So my dad in the 80s went to this magical place called Martha's Vineyard. That wasn't what it is now. It wasn't rich, you know, it was like rugged and magical. And he kind of hipped his friends to it that now have property there and all that stuff my parents didn't buy. But we. So many of the friends. My dad will always be like, you know, you got this house. Cause I. I took you to the land, you know.
Seth
Right, right, right.
Molly Gordon
And so we would go there every summer, even though it. It was, you know, across the country and that, that, that's like the most consistent trip that I could do.
Seth
That's fantastic. So how and when you would go. How long would you go for?
Molly Gordon
We would go for like two weeks.
Seth
That's fantastic.
Molly Gordon
And yeah, I mean, I just remember so many. Like, I've had such, like, I've had so many experiences There that have shaped like who I am. Like, I went. There was like, Lucy Vincent.
Seth
Yes.
Molly Gordon
Yeah. Beach. There was, like, a little creek kids could swim in, but we had to walk through the nude beach. And I've seen some old.
Josh
Old wieners on that beach that I should say.
Seth
I feel like that's kind of. You don't see that as much anymore. By the way. I first started going, like, in, like, 2008, and there were a lot of old wieners.
Molly Gordon
Yeah.
Seth
And then I feel like maybe part like, MeToo slash Epstein. They were like, I think we should not have our dicks out on a beach.
Josh
On a beach that kids are walking through to get to the nice creek.
Seth
Yeah. You know what I mean? And I think everybody was like, yeah, that's good. Because the worst. I don't know if you ever saw him like this, Molly. Not to. Hopefully this isn't traumatic. The thing I hated the most, there were a lot of old guys in T shirts and no bottoms.
Molly Gordon
I agree. And it was like, you want me to see. It's like. You want me to just see that.
Seth
Yeah, but not all of it. You just want to see, like, the lower two thirds, which is the worst part.
Molly Gordon
I kind of. Yeah, yeah. The most. The most ugly part. Not. Not a wreck. Dare I say. Out of cont. Just out of context, for sure.
Seth
We're not taking this personally. We totally agree.
Josh
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
But I was talking to my parents this morning, and I was like, oh, I'm gonna tell that story. And then my dad's like, don't say whose penis you saw, though. And I was like, why can't I say this guy? And he's like, I just don't want you to get, like, it's like a whole thing, but you. It's like a. You know.
Seth
By the way, now that you said it, Molly, I feel like I saw the same one.
Josh
And I feel like I saw the same one. I feel like.
Seth
So on the count of three, we're gonna beep it out. It's not gonna be in the podcast.
Molly Gordon
Okay, great.
Seth
All right. On the count of three, we're all gonna say it. One, two, three.
Josh
I was thinking of a different one. I couldn't think of the name, but man. For those.
Seth
By the way. Through the beat. By the way. I just want to, first of all, shake your dad's hand for me and be like, you're totally right, sir. Seth agrees. That was not for the podcast, I will say, you know, because my wife started going in the 80s when she was very young, and her Entire summers were spent out there. And it is. You know, her friendships there are so much more intense than anywhere else. I think it had a camp type vibe for her.
Molly Gordon
Totally. I think. Yeah. You kind of gave. My parents used to say, like, you know, this is what it was like for us. You don't have to lock the doors, you know, and then we got. No. I'm like, nothing happened, but we don't lock the doors. Yeah. The kids could kind of run around. And for these LA kids, it's like, so rugged. Like the most beautiful, pristine places. But I just love east coast summers. I love. There's a magic. And the Vineyard, like. Yeah. I remember smoking weed there for the first time and swimming across a pond with my parents and having to, like, laughing so hard, but pretending I was just laughing at the pond.
Josh
Did you stay in? Because there are some towns where there's a lot of shops and things going on, or did you stay in the sort of. More.
Seth
I think if she was Lucy Vincent, she was probably.
Josh
But if you were there. So you were staying where you were, you had to drive most places to get.
Molly Gordon
Yes.
Josh
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
And. And listening to music and kind of the freedom of getting your license then being able to drive on the Vineyard was such a big. I would stay with the Davids and it was like a. It was. Yeah, it just was. I don't know, it felt like this other world and this other life and also a nice way for my parents to have a vacation without the stress of. Because we were staying with friends. It's like. But we can leave if anything pops up.
Seth
Yeah, right. Yeah.
Josh
That's great.
Seth
I also think there was an influx in. In the 80s of, like, artists. And, you know, maybe if the 70s was like a music influx, like the 80s was like sort of film and TV people. And it's a. It's a very cool place.
Molly Gordon
I love the vid. There's amazing videos of James Taylor and Carly Simon singing together on the Vineyard. I feel like it would have been amazing to be there at that time, before it's become what it's become. It's still a wonderful place. But now I drive by things with my dad and he's like, could have bought that for $100,000. It's now $20 million. I'm like, great.
Seth
That's what I always say. The worst, the meanest thing your neighbors in New York can do is tell you. Like, we have like a, like, across the hall neighbors, like either late 80s or mid 90s. And all she does is tell us what she paid for the same apartment as us. I'm like, keep it to yourself.
Josh
Yeah.
Seth
Nobody wants to hear about how cheap it was in 1963.
Molly Gordon
It just hurts everyone. Yeah. I don't understand it. And then the other big trips that I remember through, we took trips that weren't connected to work, but it's mostly like. And it was cool to have a trip connected to my mom working. I think that was just really amazing to see as a young woman. But if there was like, my mom, we went to London for her to shoot a movie, and then we would take trips from there, but it would be connected to the movie. And my mom would bring me, you know, with all these adults all the time. Like, I wasn't with the kids, and I would be at like a Michelin star, like, dinner in Barcelona on a press tour, but because my mom needed to go on it, and I was like 5 and kind of joining the conversation.
Seth
Like, were you precocious at that age? Do you feel like. Like you fit in well with parents as a kid?
Molly Gordon
Yeah, I think so. I think. Yeah. I feel like I've always. It's not until actually in the last few years that I've realized I don't know anything. I think that's getting older.
Seth
Right, Right.
Molly Gordon
Is realizing you just don't know anything. But totally. I think my. I've always felt like an old soul. And, yeah, I feel like my parents always felt like I had something to bring to a conversation and never made me feel like I didn't know anything. And I'm sure it was very annoying. Very annoying.
Josh
Would your father go on that? Like, would your father go to London too?
Molly Gordon
Yeah, he. They did a really good job of, like, we won't work at the same time. And. And yeah, so he would come and then I would kind of have more time with. With one of them. But yeah, we. In that kind of London time. I remember we did like a Euro summer of going every weekend to, like, a different place. And, you know when you're an only child and you're as close to your parents as I am, the photo shoots that you have, like, we all look like lovers. Like, it's just like. It's just the collages that we have of kind of the kissing photos in Paris and Barcelona. Like, it's just we're so close, but I. Sometimes I'm like this. Yeah, the photos were. Are strange, but they would bring me everywhere. Romantic. Like, I'm kind of like, did you ever have alone time? And like. Yeah, yeah, but I Don't. I actually don't know if they did.
Seth
I feel like the slideshow at our wedding because Lexi is intensely close with her parents in the way that I am intensely close with mine. Like all the pictures, like at the end people were like. So I don't know if they're in love with each other, but they definitely love their parents. It sounds like that might be a problem at your slideshow too.
Molly Gordon
100%. No, I mean, people always say like, you right? The like, oh, that guy, like he's gonna be hard to be in a relationship with. Cause he has like a hard relationship with his mother. But it's like, that's all. It's also hard when you love your parents too much.
Seth
Oh yeah. I mean, by the way, the amount that my. I love my father in law, but he let his daughters walk all over him and I'll just take him aside sometime and be like, hey, thanks for standing up to him.
Molly Gordon
I'm in this alone. Just so you know.
Seth
Yeah, yeah. Really, really good work teaching them about consequences.
Molly Gordon
Are you both as close to your. By the way, me being asking a question you would never want to talk about publicly.
Seth
Are you.
Molly Gordon
Are you both close to your parents?
Seth
Yeah.
Josh
Oh my God.
Seth
Yes.
Molly Gordon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Seth
Josh definitely not having kids. Josh. Like we just went on a vacation in Amsterdam where we both used to work.
Molly Gordon
Oh, great.
Seth
And our parents came and Josh's wife came and Josh's mother in law came and my son came and Josh definitely like was on parents duty. Cause I was on. I was. And so Josh sees. I feel like you probably see them a little bit more.
Josh
Yeah, maybe. I mean, you're. I'm west coast, so it's. But we. Do we meet in the middle or. Yeah, I find a way to get back.
Seth
They definitely both like Josh more, which I'm totally fine with.
Molly Gordon
That's. I just wanted to know who they like more.
Seth
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's by the way, like, I do too. So I'm not like.
Josh
More than what? Than yourself?
Seth
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I think you're a better person. Like if I had to choose who to hang out with and there was another me, I'd definitely hang out with you 100%.
Molly Gordon
100%.
Josh
Would. If your mom was going to set in London, would you always go to set or would sometimes. Would you and your dad go do like touristy London things?
Molly Gordon
We did. This is also speaking of the lover photographs. We did all the touristy stuff. Um, and look. Yeah, look like lovers. Um, and we went to the yeah. All the museums, all the castles, all the. I have a thing. I've sent you guys some photos. I am like obsessed with ice cream. It's like an addiction that I have. And I. When I was young, I was seriously considering writing a book on ice creams of the world from my point of view, because I try. It's like a thing. In every place I've been, I have. I have an ice cream every day. Like, and I really care about it and I feel like I genuinely think that when I'm like when I'm having ice cream, like, I am okay. Like, it's just.
Josh
It's good to have a place that you can go to where that.
Seth
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
And I'm lucky it's not drugs or alcohol, like look like. But it's definitely like, it's just another land. And I. If I'm like in a bad mood, everyone's like, oh, Molly's okay now. And it's because I've had.
Seth
Your favorite vacation spot is ice cream.
Molly Gordon
Ice cream.
Seth
Wait, I'm. Now I am kind of fascinated that we have this, you know, self proclaimed expert, so. Because I bet you're going to say it's good everywhere, but like where do you have like a couple of places, like a couple of countries or cities where you had ice cream that stood out? I will just jump in and say I love a hot dog. And I was with Josh and had a hot dog at the Copenhagen airport that I still think about all the time. So that would be an example of an outlier, surprising place, better than average.
Molly Gordon
That makes sense for Copenhagen, right?
Josh
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
It was like to you hot too. Like the people there don't make sense.
Josh
It was also like electric pink.
Seth
Yeah. And also he was wearing. No. He was wearing no pants and a T shirt. And he like lowered it, which I didn't care for that, but it was delicious.
Josh
Copenhagen translates to T shirt, no pants.
Molly Gordon
T shirt, no pants. Yeah. We went to. I visited them shooting season three of the Bear in Copenhagen. Oh yeah, I was working on it.
Josh
Amazing episode, man.
Seth
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
And we like in the summer you like jump into the water. And I was like. And we all go and like the crew and Jeremy and we're all. And we're like, oh, they just jump into the water. Like, I wonder who's there. It's like the most beautiful, like people are taking off their. It's the most beautiful thing. We just watched them, like, it was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my entire life. And we all couldn't do it for a day. Cause we just. And it's like, Jeremy, you're a Calvin. Like you can do it. But we just couldn't do it yet.
Seth
They also, I feel look that way and don't look like they work out.
Molly Gordon
They don't. They.
Seth
No, it just looks like bike and, I don't know, catch fish with their hands or whatever they do. I'm sure that's.
Molly Gordon
Yeah. It's insane. But back to ice cream. What? Okay. So in Boca Raton, Florida, I had the best mint chip of my life. I don't have that. When I was visiting my grandmother, I had a religious mint chip at 12. But I have in my. I have it written down in it's its own chapter.
Seth
When the book gets written, it'll be its own chapter. Great.
Molly Gordon
Well, it's kind of like you're having a heart. Sorry, My vape just is going down. When you're, you know, if visiting the grandma, you need something else. If they have, you know, it's a complicated relationship. You have the mint chip. And my thing is I love a medicinal mint chip.
Seth
Okay.
Molly Gordon
Which not everyone loves. With thick, thick, dark chocolate.
Seth
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
And then I had, I would say across from the Vatican, there's this gelato place that has the best, like their yogurt flavor that's like. Was incredible. And when my mom was on like a press tour for a film, we had a driver who took us to this place and he was like, this is Martin Scorsese's favorite gelato. And at like 13, I was like, okay, okay. And what does he like about it? And that was one that I loved. And then I'm upstate right now. I would say Fortune's ice cream Upstate. Their dark chocolate is really giving right now.
Seth
Fortune's ice cream. What town is Fortune's ice cream in?
Molly Gordon
It's in Tivoli, New York.
Seth
Great.
Molly Gordon
Okay.
Josh
This is very back to Copenhagen in a lot of ways.
Molly Gordon
And we're circling back to Tivoli Market. Yeah.
Josh
Do you get a tip on, like, you have to try the yogurt flavored gelato or are you just lucking into landing on. Because I imagine there's a lot of options. And to try yogurt, I feel like is a bold choice.
Molly Gordon
Yeah. I will look it up or ask people. And then I'm also the person that's holding up the line trying a bunch.
Seth
That was. I was going to turn this around and say, like, it doesn't sound like you're the most fun person to be behind.
Molly Gordon
No.
Seth
I have an issue. I Feel like you would at least be good at this. I think there's certain places where you can tell that the person behind the counter wants to share with you what's good and what's not.
Molly Gordon
Yeah.
Seth
I can't stand when someone asks a teenager who very clearly is on its second day, like what's good here? Like what would you recommend? Like I feel like you have to clock, is the person serving me a recommender or are they just like a dead eyed teenager who's just waiting for their shit?
Molly Gordon
Yeah, I, I just was in London working and I'm going to shout out another ice cream that I had.
Josh
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
At Topath, this amazing restaurant in on a canal and it's gorgeous. And they had a, they had a, an amazing soft serve. But it was, it was like a weird flavor that I honestly can't remember. Like it was just not a usual ice cream flavor. And I was like asking a teenager, can I, you know, can I try it? What do you think of it? And she was just like, I don't know, we only have one flavor. And I was like, can I try it? She's like, you just gotta be brave. You just gotta be brave. But it's actually like she's right, she's right.
Seth
I kind of respect that. I like that.
Molly Gordon
I respect it as well. But how this connects to family trips. Cause I am saying is that when I go on a family trip with my mom, she doesn't get an ice cream and she thinks that we're sharing and that's always like a towel. That's not, it's, that's a hard thing. I actually love everything about my mother except for that. It's just like get your own, you know?
Seth
Yeah. Especially like, you know when you're, when you're traveling and getting ice cream, that's very much a time to each get your own.
Molly Gordon
100.
Seth
Yeah.
Josh
Our father pulls the same thing with our mom who always would love to share something. And he's like, no, just well, let's each get one if that's the deal. Although he's being more accommodating these days, which is nice. Which no one saw coming.
Seth
But he does, he does like to tell everybody I got ice cream money. That's like a big thing.
Molly Gordon
Yeah.
Seth
He's like, I got that ice cream money.
Molly Gordon
Yeah, I got dat ice cream money.
Josh
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Josh
Here we go.
Seth
Were your parents excited when you chose this life?
Molly Gordon
There's a glitch. Were they excited? I think they. They just wanted me to be happy. And I think, like, I wasn't good at school. I was good at English and history, but math was so hard for me. And I think finding theater in a place where there wasn't one right answer was such a gift for me and owning my intelligence as a person. And so they were just happy that I loved that and loved music and all these things. And then people had asked me to audition for something when I was 13 or something, and my parents were always like, no. So I'm grateful that they weren't like, you love this. Let's make it a professional thing, right?
Seth
I apologize for my ignorance here. But look, when you go to a theater camp and you do a big production, do your parents get to see it? Do they come out at the end of the term and get to see the shows?
Molly Gordon
Yes, they come to see it and yeah, it's like parents weekend and you get to show them your friends and you know, but it was a very like, special thing when they, they would come to see the shows, but the shows were all not fantastic. So I apologize that they had to sit through them.
Seth
I bet they loved it. I went. My 7 year old, who does not go to a theater camp, he goes to like a day camp, told me there was a play and he had three different parts in it and I was so excited. And then his first part was just to walk across stage holding a sign that said one hour later. Oh, boy. I'm starting to think these other two parts aren't leads either.
Molly Gordon
I mean, hey, I never got leads at theater camp. I never got into like, there was a thing at Stage Door, which is the camp I went to, which the movie's based on. Yeah, there was a thing that like all the best kids got into a cabaret and then at the end of the camp they would perform for all the bad kids, I guess. And. And I never got into that. I never got a lead. And look, I'm a working actor, so.
Josh
Now take that Stage Door.
Seth
But you still enthusiastically went back every summer.
Molly Gordon
Yeah, I loved it and I, I've just always not cared about that kind of stuff. Like, it's interesting. This, the movie that I have coming out, like is the first time I've been the lead of a movie, but I didn't even like, think so. I'm doing a lot of these like, interviews and they're taking it very seriously and being like, so this is your first lead. How does that feel? And why do you think it hasn't happened yet? And I just am like, oh, I don't. For me, it's always been about the piece and getting to work with amazing people and getting to be a part of this ensemble, which I think maybe comes from my theater and improv background of like. And, you know, a lot of my friends do stand up. I would never do that. I would never be up there alone. That's just for me, it's about working off of other people. Obviously I want a good role. I got to have like, I want to come in and give a laugh or something. I don't want Nothing, but I just. I don't need it to be all about me.
Seth
You co wrote this movie as well, correct?
Molly Gordon
Yeah, I just did the story. My friend and my friend Sophie wrote it. But, yeah, I, I love to, like, collaborate in so many different ways. Like, I, I think. I don't know. It's funny, like, people that are so. They're obviously amazing auteurs and, And. But I think if you don't want to collaborate, like, you shouldn't work in this industry. It's like the most collaborative medium. So it's funny when people are so, like, just wanting it to be about their voice. It's like, well, then maybe make a paint. Like, paint. Because that's just you.
Seth
Yeah, that's true. Nobody ever sees a painting and they're like, who else helped with this?
Molly Gordon
Who'd you bring into.
Seth
Did you do the horses, too? You did the horses?
Molly Gordon
You did all of this.
Seth
Wow. I could tell you did the trees, but, wow, horses too, man.
Molly Gordon
Did you co paint this?
Josh
Would you do any, like, quick getaways from la? Would you go down, like, out to the desert or to Yosemite or Big Sur? Any of the.
Molly Gordon
So no. And it's. I don't. For me, it was always about going to New York. Like, I want New York was just like, the North Star for me of my life will start when I live in New York, and I want to get to New York every weekend. So I think if, if we took a trip, it would be these, like, quick little New York trips where we would see, like, three shows in a weekend and walk and be in this place that I like, I know that I would want to live in. And so I think they would, they would save. Save up for, like, these big theater trips.
Seth
Yeah, it's really cool. Would you go see a lot of shows?
Molly Gordon
Yes, I would see. I, I. That's like. Yeah, that I saw everything as a, As a kid and, and that was the best. And I feel like also being an only child, you get movies and theater. You get brought to things that are inappropriate at a younger age, and the parents do this, which just doesn't. Let's unpack this. Like, I just. It just.
Josh
Molly's covering most of her face, but leaving one eye for the.
Seth
I always felt like mom did us a real solid cover, which is like, I'm gonna give you.
Molly Gordon
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess that was some of my first schlongs as well. Yeah. But, yeah, I got to see some amazing productions growing up, like that production of Death of a Salesman. That. What is Philip Seymour Hoffman. Philip Seymour Hoffman. Yeah. That was astounding. And like, so, so many things that. That, yeah. Were so inspiring to me. And I don't know if it. Theater also wasn't what. It's crazy what it is now. I feel like every ticket's like a thousand dollars.
Seth
Yeah. It's been a crazy. This New York season more than any. I feel like people are talking about that in a way that something has to change because people I know both excited about shows and also deeply bummed out about how.
Molly Gordon
Yeah. I feel like it's like back from the pandemic in the. In a great way. But also. Yeah, but yeah, we would do that. And then I'm trying to think of any. What other. Like little. The. The other. Yeah, we would do. We would do New York and then we did like Mexico, you know, some. Some of those types of things. Last minute edition. And. And. But my mom doesn't love a resort, but my dad and I do. So it's. That was a funny. She's like, I want to see the city. I want to see life. And we're like, we want to be completely away from a city and lay. And be brain dead. Yeah.
Seth
How is their vibe together?
Molly Gordon
Their vibe together? It's great. My parents are so different. Like, my mom's brain works a mile a minute and my dad is the slowest person in the entire world.
Josh
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
But like is so funny and like timing is amazing. But it's just. He goes at a. He's from Delaware. And I call it From Dover, Delaware. And I call it Dover, Delaware. Dover, Delaware, Dad. And it's like, he's so it's just a slower. It's Joe Biden in a way. We're slower. Yeah.
Josh
Yeah. So if you're. If you're at a resort and your mom wants to get into town, I imagine she's ready to go. And your dad's dragging his ass around the hotel room.
Molly Gordon
He's lost everything.
Josh
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
His. His new thing is like he loses his phone and then we have to do the beep to find it and like. Yeah, you get it. But it's. That's an age thing. It's like that's been that way.
Seth
Yeah. I. I feel like that's like a really unfortunate thing for people who get older who start like that is people like, oh, they're slipping. And then the people who know them are like, no. Been like this actually pretty. Actually like maintaining a level that's kind of really impressive.
Molly Gordon
Getting better.
Seth
Better.
Molly Gordon
Yeah.
Seth
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
But yeah, no, they, they would get along on vacations and I, I think it was just we with three. It's hard because you gang up on one. But like, it's, It's. It's hard not having that other person sometimes.
Josh
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
When deciding what to do. But. But yeah. And I feel like, what's the. Looking back, thinking about coming on this podcast? The pictures from the trips, like, I, I would always, like, do something. I would always come back from a trip with like, an injury or like, I got a comb stuck in my hair and I had to have, like, bangs that were this long. Like, I'm just one of those kids. Like, it's like, I.
Seth
Do you also want to ask a follow up on getting a comb stuck in her hair?
Josh
Yeah.
Seth
Yeah. I mean, okay.
Molly Gordon
Yeah.
Josh
Did you, like, put it in your hair and then glue it there?
Molly Gordon
So I just like, I, I shouldn't be given stuff. Like, when I'm given stuff, I just like, try things with it and I break it or whatever. But there was a trip to Mexico that I took with my mom and our. Some of our friends. And I got my mom, like, was on a phone call and I was like, dancing in the hotel room just to do something probably like Cheryl. Like, I was doing Sheryl Crow. And then I found, like, a comb and I wanted to, like, put my hair into it and curl it with a comb, which you can't. And then I got it stuck and then my friend. Wasn't there a show like, called the Nanny or something?
Seth
Yeah, the Frank Drescher show. Is that what you meant?
Josh
There was the Nanny and then there's called the Midwife.
Molly Gordon
Yeah, no, there was like a reality. Obviously the nanny. There was a reality show about a nanny.
Seth
Okay.
Molly Gordon
And somehow at this hotel, that nanny was there and she. This is what I mean. It's like the stories are just weird. And she. We got the hotel involved because I really didn't want to cut my hair. And this nanny, she couldn't even figure it out. And she was on a reality show about being a nanny. And so she couldn't fix it.
Seth
No one could.
Molly Gordon
She couldn't fix it. So we cut it. And then I have. I think I shared a photo, like, really wispy baby. Baby bangs are now, like, hot. It's like hot girl. Which I'd want to unpack with as straight men. I'm just interested. Is it like, because you're a ba. Like, why?
Seth
Yeah, nothing that starts baby is like, works for me.
Molly Gordon
Yes.
Seth
I also think that, like, baby bangs that you do as a choice are hotter than ones you have done because you got a comb stuck in your head.
Molly Gordon
Yeah.
Seth
If you're like, oh, I like your bangs, and it's like, thanks. I got a comb stuck and a reality show nanny couldn't get it out.
Josh
I'm happy to say that I'm unaware of, like, what baby bangs even are. And I don't know if I've seen them. I don't know.
Seth
That's gotta Google. You gotta Google baby bangs, but don't do it. Yeah. Once we're off here, don't do it on your computer.
Molly Gordon
Don't let your wife see it. Oh, God. It's bad. But, yeah, then I had baby bangs for a chapter, and then. Yeah. Getting, like, rashes. Sunburns that are insane. I, like, sprained my. You know, I would slip. I've sprained my arm a bunch of times. Yeah.
Josh
All right.
Seth
I. Clumsy.
Molly Gordon
I'm clumsy. I think, like, I'm a character in a bad rom com, like.
Seth
Right.
Molly Gordon
Yeah.
Seth
But with your makeshift baby bangs and your sprained ankle.
Molly Gordon
Yeah.
Seth
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
I. It's just not. I had an interesting thing happened. This has nothing to do with the trip, but I was with my mom, but I spilled hot tea on my lower region when I was, like, 21, and I had to go to the. I had to go to the hospital, and it's. We're all fine. There's no nothing. But they were like, I had to have, like, an adult male doctor, like, look into it, and I was, like, sobbing, and it was horrible. And he was like, I've never seen this. Yeah. He was like, I've never seen this. He's like, people do this to their lovers when they're like, they've cheated, but I've never seen someone come in that done this to themselves.
Seth
Yeah. I feel like, keep that to yourself, man.
Molly Gordon
Yeah. I'm like, okay.
Seth
It's like. It's like. Yeah. This is like, if you. If someone else had done this to you, you'd be. They'd be in jail.
Molly Gordon
How's your. Um. Yeah, I just. I hurt myself a lot, but I'm trying to work on it.
Josh
Yeah.
Seth
Well, this has been such a delight. It is so lovely to talk to you, and I'm such a fan of yours, and I'm very excited for your movie, Ojai, which comes out July 25th. The. The trailer is very funny. Yeah.
Molly Gordon
Have either of you ever wanted to force someone to. To be with you before you found your. Your wonderful wives?
Seth
Yeah. This is a movie about someone who makes a psychopathic choice. So I do. You should all watch the trailer to know the context.
Josh
I watched the trailer, and initially I was totally on.
Molly Gordon
You were with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Josh
And then I was like, oh, wait, no, I'm not. But I don't know. I haven't seen the movie yet.
Seth
A real. The minute somebody doesn't want to be with me, I'm out. Historically, I feel like I'm real good that way. Yeah.
Molly Gordon
That's fantastic. That's amazing. Circling back to your parenting, that shows. Good. That's great.
Seth
Yeah. Josh has been a psycho, like, seven times.
Molly Gordon
Okay, cool.
Seth
Josh made some real psycho choices.
Josh
No, but not only to hurt myself. I feel like.
Seth
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Molly Gordon
100%. If you. If you've done it, but it's only, like, sent you into your own ego death, then. Then it's completely normal.
Seth
Totally.
Josh
Yeah. Totally normal.
Seth
Josh. Josh would love to be, like, just staring wistfully out a cliff. Like, I feel like that's his vibe post breakup. It's just, like, super email.
Josh
But those days are over.
Seth
They're over. He got one. He bagged it.
Josh
Yeah.
Seth
Good. Good.
Josh
I don't know that mackenzie would appreciate the term that. I bagged it.
Seth
I think it's good. Wasn't that in her vows? I can't remember now. No.
Josh
I've married a wonderful woman. I wouldn't say I've bagged her.
Seth
I was just like, what an honor to be bagged by you. She is. I. Maybe I'm remembering a different wedding.
Josh
She's just getting ready to go to work, and she's just like, what?
Seth
All right, wait. Before we let you go, Molly, you have to answer the speed round questions, courtesy of Josh.
Molly Gordon
I'm ready.
Josh
Okay. You'd only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational adventurous? What is your favorite means of transportation?
Molly Gordon
Ooh, a train.
Josh
A train. If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with?
Molly Gordon
Some. Like, who would want to take a vacation with. I completely shorts. That's just such a good question.
Josh
Yeah, it's the one.
Seth
Like the Breyers family or the Dazes.
Molly Gordon
The Dazes.
Seth
Yeah, the Dazes.
Molly Gordon
And also, thank you for getting the new name. Right.
Seth
Yeah. Is it Daz now?
Molly Gordon
It's Daz now. Yeah.
Seth
Really?
Josh
It's Daz. And they've. MacKenzie actually was just saying they just changed all their.
Seth
Is that Hagen? Got me too'd, right?
Josh
Hagen was still out on the beach with his d. Out.
Molly Gordon
What's so funny is that I. I'm not. I don't have enough followers to get any like spawn con things. But like, I keep being like, is any ice cream? Like, would anyone be interested in doing a collab? Because like, you saw Bradley Cooper does talenti.
Seth
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
And I'm like, anything. And they're just like, we're not getting yeses here. I'm sorry.
Seth
I've been trying to get my own Ben and Jerry's flavor like for like five years. Like fully just begging them because like Fallon has one, Colbert has one. Nothing.
Molly Gordon
No should 100% got one.
Seth
I know it's crazy.
Molly Gordon
Okay.
Seth
All right.
Josh
If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be?
Molly Gordon
Probably my. My mother. Sorry to my dad, but we just. We need pace.
Seth
Right?
Josh
Yeah.
Seth
Yeah.
Josh
And then you're from Venice. Is that where you are from? Yes, in la. Would you recommend Venice as a vacation destination?
Molly Gordon
I mean, it's kind of ruined now. It used to be like that on Main Street. You couldn't have a shop that existed in another place. And now it's like it's every single shop that we all know. But Venice is great. I. Yeah, I would say just try to not go to, you know, the Warby Parker. Kind of just kind of try to be more original with your choices. Yeah.
Josh
And Seth has our final questions.
Seth
Molly, have you been to the Grand Canyon?
Molly Gordon
I haven't.
Seth
Do you want to go?
Molly Gordon
Yes.
Seth
Okay. I don't know if it's going to be a fit for you just based on the combination. The comb story. I just think. But you know, I like to water.
Molly Gordon
Can you write water raft?
Seth
Yeah.
Molly Gordon
Okay.
Seth
All right, great.
Josh
Do that.
Seth
I did not expect that as a closer from you that you like to whitewater raft.
Molly Gordon
I thought it's going to be like. Because we're going today.
Seth
Pack your bag while you've been talking.
Molly Gordon
Has a ticket inside of it.
Seth
We have talked to your parents. They have packed a suitcase. When you walk out of this room, it will be ready for you.
Josh
Yeah. Your dad is still packing.
Seth
Thank you, Molly. This has just been a delight. Ojai in theaters and you know, go back. It's only a couple years ago. Theater camp. It's fantastic. So thanks so much, Molly.
Molly Gordon
Appreciate you both have a great day.
Josh
Thank you. Bye. When Molly was younger, she wasn't the best student. Math in particular didn't agree with her. But she was artistic just like her parents and gravitated to the theater, her time on stage. Planted the seed. Would go to summer camp for a handful of weeks. Started a club for American theater geeks. But regardless, she was never the lead. Went out to the Vineyard back in the early days, smoking weed and swimming across the pond. Photo shoots with her parents on their getaways. Looked like she was in a relationship relationship with her dad and mom, Lucy, Vince. And walk along the sand to where little kids would go play in the Crick. But sometimes you might encounter a man who was covering his torso but not his dick. How you not gonna cover your dick? Don't you know they call that Porky Pig in it? No one in history ever wanted to see that shit.
Molly Gordon
Sam.
Podcast Summary: Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers
Episode: MOLLY GORDON Is Obsessed with Ice Cream Around the World
Release Date: July 22, 2025
Hosts: Seth Meyers and Josh Meyers
Guest: Molly Gordon
The episode features Molly Gordon, an accomplished actress and writer, as she joins Seth and Josh Meyers to delve into her childhood memories, family trips, and her unique obsession with ice cream.
Notable Quote:
Molly Gordon [00:00]: "Hey, buddy."
Molly shares insights into her upbringing as an only child in a family deeply rooted in the performing arts. Her parents balanced careers in acting and directing, which influenced Molly's own path into theater and improvisation.
Notable Quote:
Molly Gordon [17:30]: "I feel like my parents putting me in that community theater program was, like, life changing."
A significant portion of the conversation revolves around Molly's cherished summer trips to Martha's Vineyard. These two-week getaways were filled with memorable experiences, from swimming in creeks to interacting with friends and local personalities.
Notable Quote:
Molly Gordon [28:15]: "We would go for like two weeks... I have so many experiences there that have shaped who I am."
True to the episode's title, Molly discusses her deep-seated love for ice cream, describing it as an addiction that brings her comfort and joy. She humorously contemplates writing a book on global ice cream varieties from her perspective.
Notable Quote:
Molly Gordon [40:07]: "I'm obsessed with ice cream. It's like an addiction that I have. I have an ice cream every day wherever I am."
Molly delves into her career, highlighting her work on the movie Ojai and her collaborative efforts in writing and directing. She emphasizes the importance of teamwork and ensemble work over solo performances.
Notable Quote:
Molly Gordon [51:20]: "It's always been about the piece and getting to work with amazing people and being a part of this ensemble."
The conversation takes a candid turn as Molly shares personal anecdotes, including humorous mishaps like getting a comb stuck in her hair during a family trip and more serious experiences that highlight her resilience and adaptability.
Notable Quote:
Molly Gordon [60:07]: "I was on a trip to Mexico and tried to style my hair with a comb. It got stuck, and we had to cut it. Now I have wispy baby bangs."
Molly reflects on her close-knit relationship with her parents, acknowledging the balance they maintained between supporting her artistic endeavors and ensuring her happiness. She also touches on the complexities of being an only child and the unique bonds formed through shared experiences.
Notable Quote:
Molly Gordon [38:03]: "But I got to see some amazing productions growing up... It was so inspiring to me."
Molly emphasizes the collaborative nature of her work in theater and film, contrasting it with more solitary creative endeavors like painting. She champions the idea that collaboration enriches the creative process and leads to more meaningful outcomes.
Notable Quote:
Molly Gordon [53:06]: "It's the most collaborative medium. If you don't want to collaborate, maybe work in something else."
The episode concludes with a light-hearted speed round where Molly answers quick questions about her ideal vacation, favorite transportation, and her ice cream preferences. Her enthusiasm for ice cream and her love for family shine through, leaving listeners with a warm and engaging conclusion.
Notable Quote:
Molly Gordon [64:55]: "My favorite means of transportation? A train."
Key Takeaways:
This episode offers listeners a heartfelt and humorous glimpse into Molly Gordon's life, her passions, and the enduring bonds of family and friendship that guide her journey.