PHOEBE ROBINSON Got Thrown In a Trashcan

Summary

Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers

Episode: PHOEBE ROBINSON Got Thrown In a Trashcan

Date: January 13, 2026
Hosts: Seth Meyers & Josh Meyers
Guest: Phoebe Robinson

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Episode Overview

This episode features comedian, author, and legendary podcaster Phoebe Robinson (2 Dope Queens, writer, standup special I Don’t Want to Work Anymore). The Meyers brothers dig into Phoebe’s childhood growing up in Bedford, Ohio, her close-knit (and hilarious) family, disastrous-yet-memorable family trips, marathon mishaps, and the eternal sibling rivalry. The conversation bounces between heartfelt family stories and sharp, irreverent humor—true to everyone’s comedic roots.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Birthday Catch-Up & Brotherhood Reflections

• The episode opens with Seth flying to LA to surprise Josh for his 50th birthday.
  • Notable moment: Seth admits the surprise was spoiled by his assistant but humorously confirms he “fired” then “rehired” her, setting the episode’s sarcastic, loving tone ([02:19-02:49]).
• The brothers share anecdotes about their family dynamic, napping traditions, and the significance of being together for life’s milestones ([05:04–05:33]).

Introducing Phoebe: Roots, Siblings, and Career

• Phoebe greets the hosts from Brooklyn; she’s from Bedford, Ohio, and confirms she’s been in New York since college at Pratt Institute ([08:12–08:45]).
• The Meyers brothers and Phoebe joke about their “Bedford” origins, with Josh quipping about how many Bedfords might exist in the US ([08:27–08:45]).
• Phoebe describes her family setup:
  • One older brother (four years difference), living near their parents with two kids ([10:04–10:14]).
  • The sibling dynamic: “We were kind of double trouble. Like, I definitely wanted to do whatever he was doing...” – Phoebe ([10:26–10:43]).
• Trashcan Story:
  • Phoebe famously recounts being put in a trashcan by her brother:
    • “He put me in a trash can and I deserved it 100%.” ([11:01–11:18])
  • She reflects on the wisdom of not fighting going into a trashcan and compares it humorously to adult life stress:
    • “Sometimes I feel like I’m in a trash can now...” ([11:48–11:55], [12:12])

Family Structure & Parental Love Story

• Phoebe reveals her parents’ unique love story:
  • “They met at a fast food restaurant... when she walked in, the shape of the room changed and I knew she was the one.” – Phoebe ([13:51–14:18])
  • Her dad’s four-year age gap (“she was like, ‘boy, get the hell out of here!’”), their enduring bond, role reversal (mom worked; dad raised the kids) ([14:18–15:17]).
  • Parents’ phone contact names: “My love” vs “Philip Sr.”—a hilarious example of sentimentalism vs. pragmatism ([15:34–16:29]).

Early Signs of a Performer?

• Despite being funny, Phoebe wasn't a typical "class clown" or theater kid ([18:21–18:35]).
  • Standup was an accident: “I never thought about doing it… a girlfriend of mine wanted to take a class at Caroline’s, and that’s how I started.” ([19:21–19:26])

Parental Support for Comedy Careers

• Phoebe’s parents have always supported her and her brother as long as they were self-sufficient ([19:47–20:09]).
  • “A lot of people don’t have that... parents who just fight against whatever their kids’ dreams are.” – Phoebe ([19:55–20:09])
  • “They saw me do a show in Cleveland... I would never have them see me now. My material is just so… it’s too much!” – Phoebe ([20:33–20:50])

Family Trips: The Trashcan, Niagara Falls, and Sibling Wars

• Family traveled to places like Niagara Falls:
  • “Back in Ohio in the early ‘90s… going to Niagara Falls is like going to Paris.” – Phoebe ([26:46])
  • Classic sibling backseat shenanigans: “He would always be like, ‘you were adopted. Nobody wanted you.’” ([27:36])
• Comparing sibling rivalries:
  • The Meyers brothers reflect on their own incidents: “Josh chased me with a golf club once...” ([28:39–29:04])
  • Seth recalls being the responsible older brother, Josh the “rules kid” ([29:24–29:56]).

Grandparents and Family Legacy

• Both Phoebe and the Meyers brothers had little connection to their grandparents, due either to “bad people” or distance—a source for some darkly funny asides ([30:41–31:32]).

The Bizarre World of Marathoning & Family Poop Stories

• Phoebe, an avid marathoner, swaps tales with Seth—both have endured bodily betrayals while running.
  • “People who don’t run don’t understand how much a poop schedule becomes an obsession.” – Phoebe ([35:05])
• Phoebe has run marathons in places like Tokyo (“the best time!”), New York City (“so hard!”), and plans to run Philadelphia next.
  • “Tokyo was such a magical… great experience. In New York, there are ‘rolling hills’ the whole way.” ([35:38-37:46])
• On running mishaps: “I made it about 10 miles, then collapsed against what was probably a Volvo… thank God I’m anonymous here.” – Seth ([37:56–38:48])

Sibling Support, Reading, and Libraries

• Phoebe grew up loving libraries and books (“there’s something great about the Dewey decimal system and smelling old ass books… it’s an event” ([45:48–46:35])).
• All recall the joy of summer reading, Scholastic Book Fairs, and the difference between reading for school and for pleasure ([45:12–47:17]).

Family Food Habits & Vegan Pact

• The Meyers brothers tease Josh about his veganism, which is then echoed by Phoebe’s parents: “I feel bad eating meat... but I just like going to any restaurant and eating anything.” ([53:45–54:17])
• Phoebe and Seth tentatively agree to try veganism for a month:
  • “Let’s make a commitment right here, right now... we are going to try in January 2026...” – Phoebe ([55:06])

More Ohio Fairs, State Fairs, and Everyday Joys

• Nostalgic tales of state fairs (“There’s a Polaroid of my brother and I on donkeys. I couldn’t have been happier.” – Phoebe ([51:58]))
• Her parents let the kids run wild, eating all the “funnel cake and cotton candy” ([52:45–53:08])
• The importance of humble vacations, local trips, family bonding over extravagance ([44:10–44:48]).

Speed Round: Phoebe’s Quick Takes

• Ideal vacation: “Relaxing.” ([58:25])
• Transportation of choice: “Walking. I prefer walking cities.” ([58:29])
• Dream family to travel with: “The Obamas.” ([58:48])
• Desert island companion: “My niece. She’s so funny and smart.” ([59:01])
• Pitch for Bedford, Ohio: “Solid food, houses with driveways, basketball, ‘skip it’—food’s a solid six. Never great but never bad.” ([59:47])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On family sibling drama:

  • “He put me in a trash can and I deserved it 100%.” – Phoebe ([11:01])
  • “Do you ever get so busy with work that you kind of wish you were back in the trash can?” – Seth ([11:36])

• On parental relationships:

  • “[My dad] has my mom in his phone as ‘my love.’ I go, ‘Mom, what do you have dad as in your phone?’ She goes, ‘Philip Sr.’” – Phoebe ([15:34])
  • “Madly in love—or mad and in love.” – Seth ([16:29])

• On marathon running:

  • “My right shin started to fail me, then my right hamstring, then my right ankle...I flew my parents out and started crying. This is kind of hell.” – Phoebe, on the NYC Marathon ([36:07])
  • “In Tokyo, everyone’s out but they’re not LOUD. Not like New York. But running through the city is amazing.” – Phoebe ([40:03–40:49])

• On veganism:

  • “I don’t even like the taste of meat, I just get off on eating a dead thing... It’s the power.” – Seth ([54:17])
  • “Let’s make a commitment right here, right now...in January 2026 for a month.” – Phoebe ([55:06])

• On Bedfords:

  • “ChatGPT, how many states have a Bedford?” – Seth ([08:27])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening / Brothers’ Birthday Catch-Up: [00:00–07:36]
• Phoebe Joins, Childhood & Family: [07:57–13:10]
• Trashcan Incident / Sibling Rivalry: [10:47–11:36]
• Phoebe’s Parents’ Love Story: [13:51–15:17]
• Becoming a Standup by Accident: [18:21–19:26]
• First Big Family Trips & Niagara Falls: [26:28–28:07]
• Sibling Rivalry & Family Poop Stories: [28:31–35:06]
• Running & Marathon Stories: [35:06–41:25]
• State Fairs & Simple Joys: [51:47–53:08]
• Speed Round / Quick Takes: [58:15–60:32]
• Wrapping Up: [60:32–end]

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Summary

A warm, lively, and sharply funny episode, this conversation with Phoebe Robinson is packed with stories that blend family chaos, sibling love, and the awkward hilarity of growing up. From physical trashcan throwdowns to tender marathon encouragement, Phoebe’s self-deprecating wit and openness blend perfectly with Seth and Josh’s dynamic. Whether reliving state fair memories, laughing about running-induced accidents, or debating the merits of vegan living, this episode is as much about family connection as about travel disasters. A must-listen for anyone who cherishes sibling bonds, real talk about the ties that bind, and a comedic lens on life’s “trash can” moments.

Transcript

[Seth Meyers]

Hey, everybody. Hey, Pashi.

[Josh Meyers]

Hey, Sufi.

[Seth Meyers]

This is, you know, head on over to YouTube if you're just listening.

[Josh Meyers]

Oh, yeah, this is a weird one because we're, we're sitting side by side, shoulder to shoulder, and we're, we're doing this because we're recording this on January 9th. Yeah, January 8th, I turned 50.

[Seth Meyers]

You did.

[Josh Meyers]

And you flew out here on a red eye last night to surprise me for a day.

[Seth Meyers]

For a day. I flew on a. I flew. Well, not a red eye. Well, I guess it was a red eye. I left New York on a 10 o' clock flight, landed in LA at 2 in the morning.

[Josh Meyers]

Yep.

[Seth Meyers]

Came over here at 10. We went on a long ass hike. Yeah, but a great hike.

[Josh Meyers]

A great hike.

[Seth Meyers]

I loved it.

[Josh Meyers]

Good opportunity to chat, catch up.

[Seth Meyers]

Then we went out. We were coming straight from lunch where I made the mistake of enthusiastically getting a cocktail one. Well, I didn't finish the second one because I think I realized I made a terrible st. And then I'm taking a red eye back to New York tonight. So I'll be, I'll be on the ground for a little under 24 hours, but it's well worth it. I mean, talk about a family trip. I. You know, your brother only turns. Are we said. Did we say.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah, yeah, 50.

[Seth Meyers]

Your brother only turns 51. So I wanted to be with you. And I'm really happy I came. It's been wonderful. But because I'm here, we're recording this intro together. And also, if you're on YouTube, you'll see there's streamers. Cause your wife, Mackenzie hung up streamers.

[Josh Meyers]

Hung up some streamers yesterday while I was in the closet, which is where I record the songs. So I was recording a song for this episode last night and I was done and my wife said, you have to stay in there because I'm doing something. So I had to sit in there for a while. Also, we're in my dining room.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

And you never knew I was in my dining room.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, I didn't know you were in your dining room. And now I feel terrible because right after this, I'm gonna use your dining room to do an episode of the Lonely island podcast. And I did not realize that that meant that you and your wife will have to be quiet.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. She's gonna get home, like right in the middle. Right.

[Seth Meyers]

So that's unfortunate.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. But it's okay. This is what, this is what we gotta do.

[Seth Meyers]

I appreciate it.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And let's see, what else? Oh, also, I did surprise you, but Due to the fact that we do podcasts together. This.

[Josh Meyers]

Right. Because we had to record this intro and we were trying to figure out when to do it if I had to do it alone. And then your assistant Chelsea, who's wonderful, feels bad about this. I do not hold it against her. She, in trying to find a solution, said, well, you guys will be together tomorrow, so maybe you could just do it tomorrow. And I was like, oh, I bet this was a surprise.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. And it's. Again, it's totally not her fault. I did fire her because, well, I mean, I'm going to rehire her. Okay. I do want her to.

[Josh Meyers]

Right.

[Seth Meyers]

Spin out over the course of the week. No, not her fault at all. And then. Which was I said to Alexi, oh, you know, the surprise got ruined. And even Alexi said, I didn't know it was a surprise. Yeah. So that is the issue, is that I shouldn't have asked all the people helping me to arrange. I shouldn't have. I should have told them it was.

[Josh Meyers]

You should have said, hey, I'm going to go out, surprise my brother. Yeah, you left that out. Also, I'm noticing that if you're watching on YouTube these little sort of glittery streamers kept. Keep getting the focus. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

So we're going in and out of focus, which is a little bit how I feel after my one and a half cocktails. It's up to. I'll admit now it's one and a half.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. But it's been a great week for me. I went. I went up to Mammoth alone Monday through Wednesday and went skiing. And then I came home, woke up here on my birthday. My wife had arranged a falconry experience for me. So we met an owl, a hawk and a falcon in this park in Los Angeles. I got to put on those leather gloves and have these amazing birds of prey swoop up and land on my arm. It was really cool. A great lunch out with my lady.

[Seth Meyers]

We should post a photo of you in the falcon because it does look like you're dressed the same.

[Josh Meyers]

MacKenzie told me what to wear. We didn't know that was a surprise. I didn't know what was happening. But she told me what to wear. And so, yeah, she was like, wear.

[Seth Meyers]

One heavy glove on whatever you consider.

[Josh Meyers]

Your falcon arm, you're non dominant where.

[Seth Meyers]

The Save your dominant arm. Wear a fireplace glove and a chain mill shirt.

[Josh Meyers]

But yeah, it was very cool and a great gift. A great unique gift.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. And then we went on our hike.

[Josh Meyers]

Today and all three of those birds followed us.

[Seth Meyers]

The Whole way. We took your dog Woody on the hike.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

He loves.

[Josh Meyers]

He loves a hike. And he does not stop. He says hello to everyone on the hike. And some people not into dogs.

[Seth Meyers]

You gave me an option. You said you want to go on a 45 minute hike, which I will admit sounded like the long version.

[Josh Meyers]

Oh, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And then I go, what's the other option? And you said a long one. And I was like, oh, brother. But then you kind of. I mean, again, it's your birthday. I'm so happy we did the long one.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. I think that also, it's not. You can blame the cocktail if you want, but I feel like it's not a trip for you to where I live if you don't fall asleep on my couch. It's like, what I do take great joy.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

Because I know how hard you work, how much you travel, and I always try to provide you a place to take a nap because I know you napping on a couch is probably one of your most natural states.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. I feel like it's. When I've returned to what I should be doing. It should be noted that I've already done a little bit of math, and I feel confident that I can bang out my next podcast and still get a little bit of a nap before dinner.

[Josh Meyers]

And then on the plane. You can sleep on the plane.

[Seth Meyers]

I gotta sleep on the plane?

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah, well, you have to, because you're gonna hit the ground running there, too.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, brother. This was a lovely. We had a lovely conversation.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. With Phoebe Robinson.

[Seth Meyers]

You know her from 2 Dope Queens.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Great new standup special on YouTube called.

[Josh Meyers]

I Don't Want to Work Anymore. She's been working hard. She's a sort of legendary podcaster. She's a writer. She's written for a lot of great television shows.

[Seth Meyers]

You should let her come take a nap here on your couch as well. Oh, yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

I'd be happy to.

[Seth Meyers]

This should be a sanctuary for all. All those who work hard.

[Josh Meyers]

Oh, my God.

[Seth Meyers]

We got to get rid of these.

[Josh Meyers]

We can't get the focus back.

[Seth Meyers]

Is it that there's two of us, or do you think it is those?

[Josh Meyers]

I think it's the streamers.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And now the streamers, which are very cute, but we need to. Do you want me to tell mackenzie? Cause mackenzie, according to. You, might want to keep these up for another eight days until her birthday.

[Josh Meyers]

Her birthday's eight days after mine.

[Seth Meyers]

They're not. Okay. You can't have streamers up in a home.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah, not a home like this. If you have a home where you have a wing that you don't use all the time.

[Seth Meyers]

Right.

[Josh Meyers]

And you want to hang up streamers and keep them up for eight days.

[Seth Meyers]

Or if you live in a nightclub. Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

We're gonna have to figure out what to do with these for your episode of the Lonely island, but.

[Seth Meyers]

And again, I do want to apologize that I'm here for your 50th, and I'm gonna do multiple podcasts, but do enjoy. Happy birthday.

[Josh Meyers]

Thank you.

[Seth Meyers]

I can't believe I got a little brother who's 50 years old.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Considering I'm only 42. Oh, yeah. As I've been told, that's what I look like.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

When I'm out of focus. All right, thanks for listening, everybody. Happy New Year.

[Josh Meyers]

Happy New Year.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Family trips with the Miles brothers. Family chips with the mindless brothers.

[Seth Meyers]

Here we go. Hey.

[Josh Meyers]

Hey. Hi. How's it going?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Good. How are you guys?

[Seth Meyers]

We're great to see you.

[Phoebe Robinson]

So nice to see you, too.

[Josh Meyers]

I think we're all in the same city. This rarely happens. I happen to be in New York right now. You're a New Yorker now?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, yeah, I'm in Brooklyn. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Fantastic. You're from Bedford, Ohio?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yes, I am. Your research.

[Seth Meyers]

We're from Bedford. Well, we were from Bedford, New Hampshire. And I'm assuming they're identical.

[Phoebe Robinson]

They're exactly the same. Yup.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm wondering how many. I bet there's a fair amount of Bedfords. I wonder how many states have a Bedford. ChatGPT. Do you just say it out loud? ChatGPT. How many? And then when do they get back to you? I'll find out. We'll figure it out. But you've been in New York forever.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Oh, my God. Yeah. I moved out here to go to college, so I went to Pratt Institute, so I moved out here. I'm 41. So wait, I moved out here 2002. Oh, my God.

[Seth Meyers]

Wow. Right after meeting.

[Phoebe Robinson]

I'm gonna leave.

[Seth Meyers]

I was a 2001er.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Okay.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. But you. And then you. I mean, you must have been in LA for patches or. No.

[Phoebe Robinson]

When I wrote on the last season of Portlandia, I lived out there.

[Seth Meyers]

Got it.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Fred and Carrie are just the best. So that was, like, so fun. And I've gone and I've visited, but I've only ever truly lived in New York as an adult.

[Seth Meyers]

That's fantastic.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

And you're. You're like, you're prolific with your books, your podcast, your series, and then you're.

[Seth Meyers]

Lazy when somebody writes a book Every two years, I'm angrier than when they do a special.

[Josh Meyers]

But she doesn't want to do it anymore, Sue. She doesn't want to work anymore.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Listen, I work so much to make not a lot of money, so I don't think I'm doing it right.

[Seth Meyers]

Gotcha. So you're like, I could stop working and do just as well.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Well, no, I need to get a sugar daddy. I can't just stop working.

[Seth Meyers]

Right, right. But does that even work?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

So wait, and you have one older brother?

[Phoebe Robinson]

I do, yeah. He's four years older than me, back in Cleveland. Married, has two kids, lives like 20 minutes from my parents, so it's like, really cute.

[Seth Meyers]

Gotcha. So Bedford was a Cleveland suburb. Is that.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Gotcha.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And. And were you guys close? Four years. I'm wondering, like, boy, first four year gap, what's the closeness level?

[Phoebe Robinson]

We were kind of double trouble. Like, I definitely wanted to do whatever he was doing and, you know, I wanted to play, like, pick up basketball with his friends. And I, you know, I watch wrestling. Like, I got into sports like every. Like, I just. Just wanted to follow him around.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, that's good. And do you feel like, how did he. Was he welcoming to you, following him around?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, I think he was pretty. He was pretty good about it. I mean, he definitely always likes to roast me or like in high school, I feel, I feel I distinctly remember him putting me in a trash can. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Ask him for it. Ask him for it. Out of nowhere.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Of course, I, you know, when you're the little one, you. It's like, you don't have the physical prowess, but you got a mouth.

[Seth Meyers]

Right, right, right.

[Phoebe Robinson]

You know how to say sassy things. And so he. I think he put me in a trash can and I deserved it 100%.

[Josh Meyers]

Do you think when you're going in a trash can, you realize it's better not to fight it and just to keep all your sort of extremities in? Cause you go in the trash can, you get out later.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah. You just. You just collapse. You know, you just let him do. Let him do his business so then you can move on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Do you ever, like, get so busy with work that you kind of like you were back in the trash can and just had a minute to just be by yourself? Just like, oh, what I wouldn't give for a little time in the trash can.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

It's just to rest. Although the way that the business is right now, I'm like, I feel like I'm In a trash can.

[Seth Meyers]

It's kind of a trash can.

[Phoebe Robinson]

It's nuts.

[Seth Meyers]

It is not. It's not the most robust time. But you, I mean, shout out to a diversified portfolio because, I mean, you were very early to podcasting. Stand up.

[Phoebe Robinson]

I was. I just gotta interrupt. You guys have great skin. And I just, it's worth saying because.

[Seth Meyers]

You know, we are old white guys.

[Phoebe Robinson]

White people.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay. You were going there anyway.

[Phoebe Robinson]

You're not old. No, I'm just saying white people don't always, like, age well. And I feel like skin care is still not something that white men do. But you guys, your skin is really. It's phenomenal. I'm very. I'm delighted to look at both of you.

[Josh Meyers]

I'll tell my wife, because I don't do anything and she wants to get me on a regime. Regimen rather. And I'm not.

[Phoebe Robinson]

She's right. Yeah, she's right, though.

[Seth Meyers]

You should do it. My wife sent me to a high end dermatologist who sold me some very expensive creams and then I brought them home and Alexi immediately was like, you're never gonna put those on your face. I'm like, no, she gave me. You just put a little bit like this and a little bit like this. She goes, I'm literally watching the last time you're ever gonna. She was not. She was not wrong.

[Phoebe Robinson]

It's just wealth that is just keeping like the security of knowing you have so much money. You're checking account.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. You don't even have to put anything on your face.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

It's just.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

It's so interesting. It's so interesting how it works. The funny thing is Josh is fair skinned and I tan up, like, immediately. So despite our massive similarities, like, Josh, really? Josh will put an industrial size tub of lotion on his face when he goes out in the sun.

[Josh Meyers]

I do sunscreen. Yeah. Got to. Got to.

[Seth Meyers]

Yep.

[Josh Meyers]

That sun hurts me.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

So growing up, what were your parents doing growing up?

[Phoebe Robinson]

My parents were just. First of all, Phil and Octavia are the cutest people. They've been married for 45 years, I think together. 47, 48. They met at. They were working at a fast food restaurant. And my dad, he always tells me the story. He goes. He goes, I know this sounds crazy, but when she walked into the room, like the shape of the room changed and I knew she was the one.

[Seth Meyers]

That's great. How old were they when that happened?

[Phoebe Robinson]

So this is the crazy bit. So my dad is four years younger than her, so I think they met yes. So they met, I believe, when he was 16 or 17. So they were chatting, and then he says something. She goes, wait, what college do you. What. What college do you go to? Like, this isn't tracking. And he, like, said, like, his high school. She was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So she truly was like, boy, get the hell out of here. No, thanks. And he just was so smitten and thought she was, like, so wonderful and so smart and so whatever. And so anyway, so my mom is an accountant. So when my dad. When my brother and I were, like, young, my dad, like, sort of stopped working. And he, like, really, like, took care of the kids. He was, like, a pioneer. Amazing out here, making lunch, dropping us off at school, helping us with, like. It was just really. They just are such a good team.

[Seth Meyers]

I like. I like to think that when he was 17, his game was like, I'm gonna look after your kids. I'm gonna make lunch.

[Josh Meyers]

I'll babysit. Essentially, she's like, you know, it's not.

[Seth Meyers]

Like you go to college. He's like, I don't. Does this.

[Josh Meyers]

What?

[Seth Meyers]

Does this work? That's fantastic.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah. And they're still besties. Madly in love. What's funny is my. I think I get my sort of, like, some of this is astrological, because I'm a Libra with, like, a Scorpio, so it's a lot of energy. But also, my dad is sort of, like the sentimental one. So he and I went on, like, a dad, daughter date to go see that ballerina, that, like, action movie. And so we were driving back to my parents place, and he, like, you know, went to go call her to, like, talk to her about something, and he has her in his phone as my love. And I go, oh, I fucking know what my mom has. So I go, I go. I go, hey, mom, what do you have? Dad, as in your phone? And she goes, philip Sr. And I go, that sounds like Octavia. Yep. Just very formal.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, my loving, Phillip sr. That's really good. It's funny when you say madly in love. Cause I would say, like, mom and dad are madly in love.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

But I would also maybe say more accurate as, like, mad and in love. They're definitely in love. It seems like maybe there's a little bit more fireworks than Octavia and Phil have.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Well, I think why. Part of why their relationship works is I think my dad is a little bit of the golden retriever of the two. Like, my mom is very much, like, straight shooter. Like, you know, Analytical, whatever. And she's always like, oh, yeah, if anything ever happened with your dad, she's like, I would never date again. She's like, I don't have time for that. Like, she's fully just like, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Analytical, analytical, posh. Would you say that describes our mom?

[Josh Meyers]

No. No. Do you think I know that your brother is also Phil. So he is Philip Jr. But do you think any part of your mother calling your father Philip Sr. Is to make up for him being four years younger?

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, the age gap. She's finally closing the age gap to.

[Josh Meyers]

Sort of be like, he's not that 16 year old kid I met that I dated when I was 20.

[Seth Meyers]

He's Phillip Sr. Was there any thought.

[Josh Meyers]

Do you think, to you being.

[Seth Meyers]

I guess you name sons after dads more than and you name daughters after moms, but there was never a chance you were gonna be an Octavia, right?

[Phoebe Robinson]

No. So my mom wanted all P names because she really, like, loved my dad so much. And so Phoebe Snow is one of my dad's favorite jazz singers.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, yeah. The best.

[Phoebe Robinson]

So he named me. Yeah. So he named me after her.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, that's great.

[Phoebe Robinson]

So cute.

[Josh Meyers]

So cute.

[Phoebe Robinson]

The more I talk about us, I'm like, we're so gross.

[Seth Meyers]

It's so. It's the best. We love it. Have they been. Can I. And I'll let turn it back to Josh. When. What age did they know what you were going to do? Was it obvious to them that you had like a performer gene?

[Phoebe Robinson]

No, because I like, I remember always like watching like movies and TV shows. I was a voracious reader, all that stuff, blah, blah, blah. But like, I was never like. Like, I didn't really do much theater in high school. I didn't, like, I wasn't a class clown. Like, I was funny. Everyone in my family's funny. I'm like, I think I'm the funniest. But everyone in my family has a good sense of humor. So there was never anything that was sort of foreshadowing like, oh, Even when I was like, oh, I wanna go to New York to go to college, it was never like, oh, that's because she's gonna really become a performer. And I accidentally got into standup. Like, I never thought about doing it. I didn't think it was a real job, you know. And a girlfriend of mine, this was like 2008, she wanted to take a class at Caroline's, but she didn't wanna do it by. And so she was like, why don't you just come and do it. And I was like, stand up is like, so lame. And she was like, you hate your day job. Just do it with me. And so that's how I ended up doing standup. It was a happy accident.

[Josh Meyers]

That's great.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And did you love it right away?

[Phoebe Robinson]

I did.

[Seth Meyers]

And did you? And when I feel like when. If parents think they're funny and a kid tells them, oh, I'm doing stand up now, I think they feel very. It's almost like, oh, finally somebody figured out how funny I was and let my child do it.

[Phoebe Robinson]

My parents were pretty supportive. Like, I think they've been supportive with me and my brother. I think they've always wanted us to sort of follow our bliss and just as long as we were able to support ourselves financially, then they were like, pretty on board, which is, like, nice. A lot of people don't have that. A lot of people have parents who just, like, fight against whatever their kids dreams are. And I always think that that is like, yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

Well, I think also if you're succeeding in standup and your parents, I'm guessing, would come to see you occasionally, there's that feedback of an audience that's kind of hard to deny. Like, if you're doing well and if you sort of are able to keep doing it, I imagine that your parents are like, oh, I guess this is a thing. Like, the proof is in the pudding. And the pudding is the laughs that are coming out of these audiences.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah. And I think they saw me do a show in Cleveland. This was maybe, I think, my second year doing standup and I did a good enough job and everyone laughed and I mean, I would never have them see me now because I just. My material is just so. It's too much. Like I told him. I was like, don't watch this special. There's nothing here for you. Just don't do it. Like, Thanksgiving does not need to be awkward. Just support. Give me a heart emoji and a text and that's it. Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Go ahead, Josh.

[Josh Meyers]

Well, I was going to get into trips, but why keep going?

[Seth Meyers]

Well, I was going to ask, just before you get into trips, were your parents from the area? Did they grow up in Ohio as well?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, they grew up in Ohio, so. And yeah, I. I don't know if they'll always stay there. I think they will. I do think there is a dream world where if my dad could just, like, buy a farm somewhere and like, no one talked to him, I think he'd be into it. You know, my mom would be there, but he just does the outside world. He's like, I'm so good. And I'm like, I get it, I get it.

[Seth Meyers]

I would say that veers pretty hard from our dad.

[Josh Meyers]

Posh, he does not need a farm.

[Seth Meyers]

No, he might go to a. Phoebe's dad was there. He'd be like, oh, I'll go tell him a story. Yeah. Hey, we're gonna take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors.

[Josh Meyers]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Josh Meyers]

So what would you, would you guys take trips when you were younger? Were there?

[Phoebe Robinson]

We did. I remember we went to Niagara Falls, which is like, you know, I just feel like that time like, you know, like early 90s. You're in Ohio, it is like. Going to Niagara Falls is like.

[Seth Meyers]

Right.

[Phoebe Robinson]

That's the. That's like going to Paris. Like, you gotta go. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

What's that drive? What's that drive from Cleveland to.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Oh, God. That's like, a long drive. I was so young. I was maybe like, seven or eight. So I don't know. I just know, like, you know, my brother and I being in the backseat, obviously giving each other shit the whole time, and our parents would just be like, can you guys just stop? I truly think my brother and I stopped giving each other shit at, like, like, a year and a half ago. Like, it's really been like. They have been like. Like, my parents would be like, we are going to die. Are you guys still gonna do this shit?

[Seth Meyers]

So good.

[Josh Meyers]

Were you. Was it just verbal barbs or were you taking swings at each other back there?

[Phoebe Robinson]

It's the whole, like, oh, I'm touching you. I'm not touching you. The, like, squeezing each other's arms. It's sort of like talking over each other. Like, he would always just be like, you were adopted. Like, nobod. Like, he was just like, nobody wanted you. Like, for years, he would be like, nobody wanted you. And I would be like, emotional terrorism because I would, like, take it to heart. I was like a little kid. I'd be like, mom. And they'd be like, stop telling her no one wanted her.

[Seth Meyers]

I feel like when you say, like, a long drive to Niagara Falls, I feel like is only worth it if you could take the falls all the way home. You know what I mean? Like, top of a ski mountain.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And like, I feel like the real failure was made to not, like, sort of dig out, sort of just to, like, four major cities. Like, from the falls, you could take it all the way to Cleveland.

[Josh Meyers]

A log flume ride.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Wait, of the two of you, who terrorized who.

[Josh Meyers]

We weren't big terrorizers. I was probably more violent.

[Seth Meyers]

The answer is Josh. But we'll let him. It'll be more healthy for him therapeutically. If he gets there on his own, keep going.

[Josh Meyers]

I would. I think I'd freak out more and maybe, like, you know, take some swings. Oh, I chased him with a golf club once.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

I was very little. I mean, that golf. We were like. That was before we left Michigan, so I was. Before I was five.

[Seth Meyers]

You chased me with a golf club in New Hampshire.

[Josh Meyers]

Did I?

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, you hit me with a golf club in Michigan. You chased me, but that was a mistake. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not blaming you for Hitting me with golf club. Except for the fact that it was mini golf and you swung like you're fucking Jim Palmer. You shouldn't say behind Jack, Mick. Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

Stand behind someone with a golf club.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. Well, obviously, I learned my lesson. The. Josh was also a real, like, I don't know, like, just like, a naggy rules kid. And so, like, when we were, like, teenage, when I was, like, let's say, 17, our parents went away, and I had, like, four. Four friends come over and they brought, like, one six pack with, like, three be, like. I think three beers still left on it. And Josh, like, we were like, just literally four guys splitting three beers, like, pouring it into cups. Josh came down and was like, you're not my brother.

[Josh Meyers]

I mean, it was. I was coming out of the whole just say no Nancy Reagan era.

[Seth Meyers]

I don't think she was like, I don't think it was just say no to Coors Light. Like, you're the only one who thought, like, Nancy didn't go hard enough. I had never. Why is this about drugs, Phoebe?

[Josh Meyers]

I had never seen my big brother drink a beer. And I was shook.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Oh, my God. That's good use of shook. I applaud you on that.

[Seth Meyers]

And now. Now I'm 51 and I binge drink in a popular YouTube segment.

[Josh Meyers]

So.

[Seth Meyers]

Yes. Guess what backfired, bro. So Niagara Falls.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

What about. Were you guys. Did you have. Were grandparents a part of your life?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Oh, yeah. No, we have, like, because of tragic.

[Seth Meyers]

Endings or just bad people?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Bad people.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay. Oh, no.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah. Both my parents came from.

[Seth Meyers]

That's better, Josh, than, like, good people who died super young.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were just like, hot garbage. And so my parents were very much, like, wanted to protect us, which I think was ultimately, like, the right.

[Seth Meyers]

So you never, like, did you see him on holidays or anything?

[Phoebe Robinson]

I remember meeting my dad's mom once.

[Seth Meyers]

Gotcha.

[Phoebe Robinson]

And I have, like, I think one or two pictures with her. But, like, that's it. Like, it was just a very sort of, like, it was like succession. But no one had money and there was, like, nothing to give.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. Right. So it's like HBO's a pass.

[Josh Meyers]

Yes.

[Seth Meyers]

What about Succession?

[Josh Meyers]

Oh, your show's about hurt feelings.

[Seth Meyers]

You know, like how people like fancy locations. Nobody goes anywhere in this one.

[Phoebe Robinson]

We're all just staying in the inner city of Cleveland, and it's sad. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Our grandmother, our grandparents on our mom's side got divorced, and then our grandmother remarried, and we knew our step grandfather fairly well. We only met our grandfather once.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah, I don't. And I have no memory of it.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. Yeah, but I think it's the same thing. There's, like, one photo, and it feels like one of those pioneer family photos where they just took it. So it exists. Like nobody. Like, there's no emotion is being felt other than like, we are now taking the photo to show that. To show that we were here. Quick, gather for the photo. The photographer is getting back on his wagon.

[Josh Meyers]

So Niagara Falls. Do you have any memory of, like, what you did up there or. It was really just the getting there and the getting back. Did you.

[Seth Meyers]

I hope you saw the falls.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, we saw the falls. Could you imagine if, like, we did everything but that?

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, we went and got buffalo wings at three different places, and then we.

[Josh Meyers]

Were like, ah, did you go on the boat? Did you go on the Maid of the Mist? Do you recall?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, I think we did the Mate of the Mist. You know, one of the things that I do remember about it was either that trip or a different family trip, so. My brother and I love him so much. He's such a. He's such a good egg. Such a good person. But when he was younger, he, like, only wanted to poop at home.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Like, he never wanted to use any other bathroom any other time. And so I feel like we did, like, a weekend trip and he was like, I'm not pooping in this hotel.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, wow. I get, like, a restaurant, but I feel like a hotel becomes your home.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah. He got back up.

[Seth Meyers]

It was not even a proxy home. Oh, wow.

[Phoebe Robinson]

No, he got backed up. It didn't end well for him. It was like, you gotta take a shit.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Like, just. It's fine. It's a whole 10.

[Josh Meyers]

Like, I'm just not in. I'm not in control of that. I can't say, like, I'm shutting it down for the weekend and I'll get back to this once I return home. It's real quick, Phoebe.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm just gonna jump in and say Josh has shit his pants multiple times as an adult and not. Not because of alcohol.

[Josh Meyers]

Not because of alcohol, but also not in over 10 years.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay.

[Phoebe Robinson]

I shit myself.

[Seth Meyers]

So. Lacey, over 10 years. You're 49 now. Yeah. So I'm sorry. It didn't happen when he was an adult. He was a kid. I didn't do the math right.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Circumstances, speed, I'm on your side. I shit myself. So. It is. It is.

[Josh Meyers]

I.

[Seth Meyers]

You know, it happened to me too. I don't know why I'm judging Josh.

[Josh Meyers]

I bet it Happened to both of you more recently than it happened to me.

[Seth Meyers]

So I was on a. I was on a run during COVID and I realized, like, I wasn't gonna make it home. And then I think I made it, like, to the driveway, which is a heartbreaker. Cause it was like a five mile run. So if I just. If I'd just done 4, 9, 7, I would have been fine. And. But I remember going up and my kids were really little, and they were like, out the door being like, daddy, Daddy. And I was like, get up.

[Josh Meyers]

Away.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Get up out of that doorway.

[Seth Meyers]

Not a great. Not a great moment.

[Phoebe Robinson]

You know, Ronnie, this is the thing. Because I'm a marathoner, and people who don't run don't understand how much a poop schedule. Like, you get obsessed with the timing of your shit.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

It's crazy. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Now, okay. Because we've taken some trips. I've. I've run a couple marathons, and we made trips out of it.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Which ones?

[Seth Meyers]

It's. They're weird ones. Leiden in Holland, Helsinki in Finland, and then Stockholm in Sweden.

[Phoebe Robinson]

All the classics. What do you mean?

[Seth Meyers]

No, just, like, it's. But we picked ones that were fun to go to, like, places I wouldn't have gone to. How many have you ever done one because you wanted to take a trip to that place, or do you just try to pick one that you think is a good vibe?

[Phoebe Robinson]

That's on my list. So I've done four. I'm about to do the Philadelphia marathon in two weeks. I would say my favorite was probably Tokyo. That was.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, so there you go.

[Phoebe Robinson]

I mean, that's so fun. Oh, my God. It's the best time.

[Seth Meyers]

Incredible. All right, so for people who don't know and like, again, we're in the. Obviously a week away or 10 days after the New York City Marathon, and everybody who does it talks about how amazing it is. Have you done New York?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, I did it last year.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay. Gotcha.

[Phoebe Robinson]

So hard.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, man, it's so funny. Like, everybody says how hard it is is the hard part that you just forget it's not flat.

[Phoebe Robinson]

It said it has the most rolling hills of all the majors. So it's like, you don't really get, like, a lot of relief. And for me, I had shin splints because I was over training and, like, under recovering. So I was trying to rest as much as I could. So I was like, maybe 80%.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

So I would say the first 16 miles I was cooking, I was like, oh, I'm gonna pr. This would be A personal best. Like, oh, my God. And then, like, my right shin start to fail me, then my right hamstring, then my right ankle. And I was. You know, I, like, flew my parents out. I was like, this is gonna be so great. We'll have, like, a New York moment. And we were on a group chain, and I was like, guys, I. I think I'm in trouble here. And I was like. I, like, started crying. I was like, this, like, is kind of hell. My parents, like, just finished. Just finished. And it was hard. And the hardest part, people say it's going over the Queensborough Bridge because you're just alone with your thoughts, which I think is, like, totally fine, because then you go off on First Ave. And the Wall of Sound. It's amazing. It is. That you're going through Central park, and so, like, the hills don't stop. I'm like, I want this to be over.

[Seth Meyers]

That's. A friend of mine said the same thing, which is like, you just. He goes. When you think about going through Central park on any day other than the marathon, you never think it's hilly, and then all of a sudden, it's the marathon.

[Phoebe Robinson]

You're like, the fuck? Yes.

[Seth Meyers]

Yes.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah. So it's really. I want to do it again. And I would say, you should do it. I think you will love it.

[Seth Meyers]

It's so fun. Did you grind it out? Did you make it? Did you finish it last year?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah. I don't know how I did it, but I did.

[Seth Meyers]

I overtrained for Stockholm. You were there, Josh.

[Josh Meyers]

I wasn't there for Stockholm.

[Seth Meyers]

You were there, all right.

[Josh Meyers]

I don't go to marathons. You don't finish.

[Seth Meyers]

Right. So Josh has spoiled the. But I had really bad it. I overtrained it. Band. And so I had to, like, fully stop training for a month leading up to it. But we had the trip, and I was like, maybe I'll just see how I do. You know what I mean? And same thing. And I made it about 10 miles faster than my pace, and then, like, collapsed against, like, what was probably a Volvo. And I just remember feeling like, thank God I'm anonymous here. And then, like, a Swedish teen went by, was like, ah, this is Mars. And I was like. And nothing's worse, by the way, than finding your way home, like, wearing a marathon bib and, like, walking through the streets and trying to find a place to, like, cross where everybody's running to get back to your hotel. That was awful.

[Phoebe Robinson]

So what mile did you. Did you DNA?

[Seth Meyers]

Like, between 10 and 11. It was like once my. Once my knee collapsed. I could barely like, walk. It was like. It felt like. It was like. Not like pain. It was like a crumbling of it. But Tokyo. Had you been to Tokyo before? Or was that the first time?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Never been to Tokyo. It was amazing. It was. The food was so good.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, that's. That was kind of. It's a bucket list destination for me. So did you go. How far in advance do you go to make sure your clock's right for the marathon?

[Phoebe Robinson]

I got there three and a half, four days beforehand. And even like after the marathon, I was taking a nap every day. Like, it was just so hard to like, adjust. And then when I came back here, it took me two weeks to get back on New York time. And people were like, are you sure you're not ill? And I was like, you do understand that you. When you leave Tokyo, you fly back to New York and you're back in the same day in which you left. Your body's like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, you're confused.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah, it's a weird one.

[Phoebe Robinson]

It's so weird.

[Josh Meyers]

Who was your crew over there? Did you go over solo or did you have other runners you were with or friends, family?

[Phoebe Robinson]

I had a girlfriend. Her name is Sean. We met. Cause I'm a big U2 fan and she used to work for U2, so we ran it together. And then I know this peloton instructor, Jeffrey. He also ran it, but he was like, much faster than us. So. But it was just such a magical. It was such a great experience. Like, what is great about New York is that people turn the up. The energy is amazing. Everyone's yelling and screaming and you're like. You're like, yas, ya, sha, ya. And like, Tokyo, like, they don't turn up. Like, they turn up like they are there, but they're not turning up. You know what I mean? Like, they're not like screaming.

[Josh Meyers]

They're not, you know, it's more of a reserved culture.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah. Yeah. But it was like, so fun. You're like running through the city of Tokyo. You're like, when am I ever gonna do this again? So it's amazing. Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

And did you sort of take advantage of being there other than the running? Were you. Did you go and were you a tourist?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yes, I did. Like, I did like a tea ceremony. I ate my weight in sushi. I went through, like, all these markets. Like, I went to, like, museums. Like, I like, did so much. Like, it was just such an incredible experience. And it was so Like. Like, I remember getting, like, walking down into the subway station, and I was like, why is it clean?

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

I was like, where's the trash? Where's someone, like, screaming? Like, it was so. I was like, new York is so ghetto. Like, if you go overseas, you're like, new York is, like, kind of a third world country. Like, we literally, like, we're chaos and we get everything. We have, like, all this, like, energy, but, like, Tokyo was, like, light years ahead.

[Seth Meyers]

It's funny, I think, like, for people who, like, were in New York in the 70s, they're like, it's actually really nice now, but, like. And then you compare it to anywhere literally in the world, it's like, it's not that nice.

[Josh Meyers]

No.

[Phoebe Robinson]

The number of rats. I see rats all the time.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah. I don't think they say, if you see one rat, then 10 rats have seen you.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, that's actually probably what they say.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, I think that's pretty.

[Seth Meyers]

I was saying, like, this is how bad the rats are is like, when Eric Adams hired a rat czar, he didn't do it. Like, he didn't do it quietly. Like, you think, like, you wouldn't want to get the word out to the whole world that, like, we needed a rat czar. But there's like. He's like, yeah, we had to bring somebody in. They're just like, the rat guy now. And I'm like, don't do a press conference.

[Phoebe Robinson]

So embarrassing. I've been to other cities, and people have been like, oh, I want to come to New York. But I've heard about the rats. So that's Eric Adams contribution is he really got the rats of it all out there. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

The best is when you see one and you're like, that couldn't have been a rat. That's far too big. You know what I mean? Like, you see the shadow of, like, I was clearly.

[Josh Meyers]

That's a capybara.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, it's a capybara. So, honey, call the zoo. See if a capybara's loose. I've met a capybara.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Have you ever.

[Seth Meyers]

Guys ever met a capybara?

[Josh Meyers]

Oh, yeah, you told me about that.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

What?

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, we went to Uruguay, not just for the capybaras, but then we met one.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Whoa.

[Josh Meyers]

Met.

[Seth Meyers]

I met a capybara. I was at a party.

[Josh Meyers]

We went to his house for tea.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, well, it was somebody else's house, but we were both friends with the same guy who was having a wine tasting.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Can I come to. Can I join one of your family trips? Because you guys go great places, and I'm not in the best place financially to be taking all these trips, so if I could just tag along.

[Seth Meyers]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Phoebe Robinson]

And I will. I will cover snacks. I got you on snacks. Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

Well, back to some of your family trips.

[Seth Meyers]

Where.

[Josh Meyers]

Where else would you guys go? Would you take sort of like a spring vacation? Like, during spring break, would you always try to go somewhere in the summer or, like, what were your summers like?

[Phoebe Robinson]

We weren't summering, babe. We didn't have the money to do that.

[Josh Meyers]

Summering. But you could go somewhere. We didn't do summer either.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. We just stayed.

[Josh Meyers]

I didn't say it as a verb. You did.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean, I summer now. Oh, I summer now.

[Phoebe Robinson]

We would do, like, you know, like, state fairs and stuff like that. Like, we would do, like, one tank trips. That was, like, a big thing that we would do where it's like, you can go somewhere, like, pretty easy and come back home. And so, like, I think what I always liked about our family trips is that we were always just such a little core unit, and we actually, like, didn't fight much on family trips. Cause I know it sounds like that sounds bizarre. Cause usually, like, that brings out the sort of, like, fight. Like, if you look at, like, Real Housewives, like, the biggest fights happen on the trips. Yeah, but, like, we didn't have that. But we, like, fought in other ways. But we're okay now.

[Seth Meyers]

We would not fight on trips. We were. Josh and I certainly never fought on trips. Did you. You mentioned being a reader. Like, I will say my summers. When I think back to, like, what did I love most about my summer? It was like being in my bedroom with no homework stress, like, just reading a book. And like, sometimes I think, like, if there's anywhere I could be, it would be, like, in that room just with the windows open.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah. I mean, look, look, I got all these books over here.

[Seth Meyers]

No, I think color coordinated. You had somebody come in for the podcast to put a bookshelf up. Did you have you always color coordinated your bookshelves?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Listen, I do. And people hate it. And they're like, how will you find a book that you. I'm like, I'll find it. I'll find it. It's not a big deal. It's not the New York Public Library. It's an apartment. I'll find it.

[Seth Meyers]

I also think there's a little bit of joy in looking at a book. I think, like, the fun of a bookshelf is that moment of, like, running your fingers over the Spines looking for.

[Phoebe Robinson]

It's delicious. I love it.

[Seth Meyers]

What were you reading as a kid? Like, what was your early.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Oh, I was kind of reading everything. Like, my dad is a big supporter of libraries. So like he is all about, let's go to the library, let's check out some books. He says, like, check out like CDs and like movies. And I would like do all of that. So it's such a. Like that is. I know this sounds like a. Like to sort of romanticize the past, but I do really think this, like the fact that you can get information at your fingertips rather than going to a location that had all of the physical information is such a, like, it's such a bummer. There's something great about the Dewey decimal system and smelling these old ass books and like taking them out and being like, oh, this is like such. It's an event. I'm getting new books.

[Seth Meyers]

It's an event. Our mom, I think to this day still will reserve a book at our local library. Like if a new book coming out, love it. And there was a thing she would bring home. Cause we had a video story like pre Blockbuster video store. But there was also like four foreign films were at the library. And so she'd come up with like foreign films and like Anita Baker CDs. Like, I mean it's so funny to be like, I'm gonna, we're gonna listen to Anita Baker this week while I.

[Josh Meyers]

Make dinner and watch Babette's Feast.

[Seth Meyers]

It's also just nice to think about the things you would do. Like, just like when, I mean, like, oh, you know, what are we gonna do?

[Josh Meyers]

I'll.

[Seth Meyers]

Let's, you know, we're gonna go to the library. And I used to love it again.

[Josh Meyers]

I would just like those scholastic book fairs that we used to have. Like, you know, every kid would maybe get like two or three books and they'd come through and it was just so exciting to get.

[Seth Meyers]

We still. My son's school has the book fair and it's the best. And I've written a children's book and they had it at the book fair. And last year I was there and one of my son's friends bought it and I said, do you want me to sign it for you? And he said, no. So that wasn't. I wish I hadn't gone out on that limb.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah, yeah. Nice, nice fresh book.

[Seth Meyers]

Sufi. Yeah. He's like, yeah, man, wreck it. Why don't you buy one and draw over it?

[Phoebe Robinson]

But yeah, I just. Because I did not. I don't know about y'. All. I did not really care for school and so I didn't always like the things that we were assigned, especially like in high school. So I always wanted to read. Like I remember in high school I went to this predominantly white high school, Gilmore Academy. It's a great school. And they this was oh God. I think this was like we had assigned summer reading. So I may I think it might be going into sophomore year. And we were assigned Tom Brokaw's the Greatest Generation. And I'm like, babe, it wasn't great for me.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, maybe I want to apologize. I got the generation wrong. First time I got to do my Broka in the pod posh.

[Josh Meyers]

Yeah, I know that was pretty good and I think yours was going to be better. But I was, I was definitely back.

[Seth Meyers]

With more and about this is Tom Bro, I haven't been seeing eye on my nose.

[Josh Meyers]

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[Phoebe Robinson]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Josh Meyers]

So, state fair. Talk to me about the state fair. What are some highlights at the Ohio State Fair?

[Seth Meyers]

Do you look forward to anything? Or you, like, we're just going. And I shouldn't even say that I'm excited.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Well, it's so fun. Like, there's a picture of, oh, gosh, how old was I? It's like the cutest little Polaroid, but it's a picture of my brother and I on donkeys. And, like, I could not have been happier. I was, like, thriving. I was like, this is what life is all about. Like, I fully loved it. So I think it was like, the. The animals part of it. It felt, like, very fun and cool in a way that, like, going to the zoo, I always felt like they're, you know, like, in jail, but I'm sure, like, at a state fair, it's like, also, like, not great, but I just felt like they're. They're out in the grass, so it must be like, okay. But yeah, I think it was like that. And it was like the food, because my.

[Seth Meyers]

It's like one of those country club prisons for, like, white collar criminals. You know, it's still jail, but, like, it's just nicer.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Exactly. And, like, the food I remember, you know, just like, eating, like, just so much cotton candy and just like, funnel cake and like, all the stuff that, like, my parents are like. They're healthy eaters. They're healthier now because they're, like, vegan. But back then, they just, like, didn't want us to have, like, a ton of junk food, but they would, like, let us, like, run free at a, like, a little fair.

[Josh Meyers]

Nice.

[Seth Meyers]

Josh, you're not gonna. You're not gonna jump all over this vegan news? Wow.

[Josh Meyers]

I'm vegan, Phoebe. But I don't want to lord it over everyone. But Seth wants me to.

[Phoebe Robinson]

That's also also why your skin is good. That is also why your skin is good. I'm telling you, you're doing the right things.

[Seth Meyers]

Thank you. And if you saw me in person, you would rescind your comment about mine. I currently have a vegan filter in my zoom box. When did they switch to veganism? Now, since Josh won't ask, I'll jump all over this. Like, at what point in their life and was it, like, was it, like, health related?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, I want to say 41, so maybe sometime in my 20s. I think they were just like, when they ate me, they were just like. We just were starting to feel so sluggish and tired and so they were just like, we're done. And that makes total sense. I'm just. I feel bad eating meat. I really do. But I. I can't make this. I was a pescetarian for like a year and I was like, this is. But this is annoying. I like to be able to go to any restaurant and eat anything and not have to think about it.

[Seth Meyers]

I don't actually even like the taste of meat. I just get off on eating a dead thing.

[Josh Meyers]

In front of me.

[Seth Meyers]

Ideally, in a personal world, I have to, like, choke it down. But it's just the power. I just feel the power.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Does Josh being vegan, like, inspire you to, like, want to try it at some point?

[Seth Meyers]

It does. For no. As much like, grief as I give him, like, I'm always asking. Cause Josh has said, like, vegan food has gotten, like, exceptionally better. Like, I think, like, you know, it's.

[Josh Meyers]

Got a ways to errand. It's always getting better.

[Seth Meyers]

But yes, got a ways to go. Yeah, but it's always getting better. And I certainly think it's one, better for me, two, better for the environment. So for comic event, I will poo poo it. But I do. I would love to be able to have the willpower to do what Josh has done.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Okay, Seth, let's make a commitment right here, right now. We are going to try in January 2026 for that moment.

[Seth Meyers]

What about 2027, which is.

[Phoebe Robinson]

It's like, late.

[Seth Meyers]

It's November. Like, you've not given me enough time to Eat my meats.

[Josh Meyers]

He has a fridge full of meats. He's not going to be done with.

[Seth Meyers]

It, by the way, by January 26th. We try for a month. What do we try for a month?

[Phoebe Robinson]

We are vegan for a month.

[Seth Meyers]

All right. Okay. Give it a go.

[Phoebe Robinson]

I think it'll be. We're gonna hold each other honest to this via our assistance, because we don't need to directly talk to each other.

[Seth Meyers]

No, no.

[Josh Meyers]

Vegan.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm also. But can I grow a mustache if I'm doing that, Could I also grow a mustache? I wanna do one of those fun things that people do in a month. So when it's over, I'm gonna be, like, just super jacked with a big old mustache.

[Phoebe Robinson]

I think we might like it. I think we might.

[Seth Meyers]

I think we might like it. I don't. I, I, I don't think you're wrong on that. I'm sure I'd feel better. And that's not a bad thing.

[Josh Meyers]

Phoebe. I hate to keep swinging back around to it, but on the family trip front.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

Any other classic trips that you guys took on these single tank trips, would you ever go to a lake? Did you ever go over to Cincinnati to see what? They got.

[Phoebe Robinson]

No lakes. Because none of us swim. Such a stereotype. I know. I'm so sorry.

[Josh Meyers]

Would you go to Cleveland to, like, see shows or anything like that, or would you.

[Phoebe Robinson]

We would go see, like, the Nutcracker. We would go see the Cleveland Cavs. We would go do, like, all that kind of, like the typical, like, Rock Roll hall of Fame, all that stuff.

[Seth Meyers]

So you miss. But, like, is my timeline right, that you missed all the fun Cleveland Cavs times, right. If you're 02 in New York.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah. I mean, yeah. But I would fly back, okay. And see, when LeBron came back and won the finals for us, I flew back.

[Seth Meyers]

My brother went, oh, did you go to a game? Did you go to the game when they won it all? That's. I mean, that is.

[Phoebe Robinson]

It was, like, not the game. They won it all. I think it was a game before that. And this is. I. My brother always laughs when I tell the story. So we went and I was like, I always want to treat him to. He's such a sports person. Cavs, Browns, he loves them so much. He always wants them to win a championship. So I was like, I'm going to take you to the finals. We're going to go. And so we're standing and I got, like, good, good seats, you know, like, they weren't amazing. But they were, like, pretty. Like, we were pretty close to the action. And this white lady comes over us, and she goes, oh, how did you guys get these seats? And I go, I fucking paid for them. He goes. He goes, why would you say that to her? And I was like, why is this white lady worried about our fucking seats?

[Seth Meyers]

It's crazy. It's a crazy class.

[Phoebe Robinson]

How do you think I got the seats, lady? Yeah, the fuck is wrong with you?

[Seth Meyers]

You were like, well, all right. We found a lamp in the sand. And my brother said, that's someone else's ramp. And I said, well, hold on. And I picked it up, and when I did, a genie came in. All right, speed round.

[Josh Meyers]

All right, Phoebe. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? Oh.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Relaxing.

[Josh Meyers]

What is your favorite means of transportation?

[Phoebe Robinson]

I actually like to walk around. Can I say that? I prefer walking cities.

[Josh Meyers]

If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? Oh.

[Phoebe Robinson]

The Obamas.

[Seth Meyers]

Great.

[Josh Meyers]

Great.

[Phoebe Robinson]

That'd be amazing. Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? Oh.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Oh, it would be my niece.

[Seth Meyers]

Great.

[Phoebe Robinson]

She is so funny, and she is so smart.

[Seth Meyers]

How old is your niece?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah, she's gonna be 12 this summer. She's great.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Has she ever come to visit you in New York City?

[Phoebe Robinson]

She's coming next year and she's very excited. She's very excited. Yeah. I'm gonna take her to Broadway.

[Seth Meyers]

Is this something that was always, like, when you're 13, you'll come. Has this been on the books for a while?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah. Cause I feel like when you're too much of a kid, like, coming to visit to New York is too much. I want her to have fun and remember things.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah.

[Josh Meyers]

You are from Bedford, Ohio. Am I correct in that?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yes.

[Josh Meyers]

If you were pitching Bedford, Ohio as a place for some families to come visit, how would you pitch it?

[Phoebe Robinson]

Oh, my God. Okay. Bever Heights is so fun. Listen, there are houses everywhere with driveways. People are playing basketball. People are playing. Skip it. The food is a solid six, babe. You're never gonna have a bad meal. No. 5. But you're not gonna. But you won't have a great meal. And you know what? That's okay.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Maybe you don't. You don't need to have great stuff all the time.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. They'll never go to a restaurant in Bedford and be like, I never have to eat again. You'll definitely want to eat the next day.

[Josh Meyers]

And then Seth has our final questions.

[Seth Meyers]

Phoebe, have you been to the Grand Canyon?

[Phoebe Robinson]

I haven't. I want to go.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, that was the follow up is do you want to go? All right, great. You want to go? All right.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Yeah. Oh, my God, Yes.

[Seth Meyers]

You. You know, again, marathoner walking is your favorite means of transportation. Do you think you'd be one of those people who would, like, go for it and be like, I'm going to hike to the bottom, do all that stuff that crazy people do?

[Phoebe Robinson]

I feel like if I would only go once, so I would want to try certain things. I will say I am scared of heights, so it would be a very emotional journey for me, but I would do it.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay, great. Well, we support you making that choice, and it's been lovely to see you and to talk to you. This has been absolutely wonderful.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Thank you for having me.

[Josh Meyers]

Bye. Bye. Phoebe fought with her bro in the backseat of the car. Said she was adopted and could be mean to her. Mom and dad were so sweet. Maybe dad more than mom. She's his love and he's her. Phillip Sr. Ran the New York Marathon. Says Tokyo's got it going on. Which would both be tough for bro. Cause when they go on a trip was bad news for junior village. Cause he only.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Poops at home.

[Josh Meyers]

He o me. At home. It was not good for him. You just can't hold it in.

[Phoebe Robinson]

But he only.

[Josh Meyers]

Poops.

[Phoebe Robinson]

Aerith home.

[Josh Meyers]

Only a poor.