← Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers
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Hey, everybody, it is Seth. Alone today because Josh is traveling. He's currently just landed from a red eye from LA to the east coast because we have our annual fantasy football draft this weekend. I'm looking forward to that a great deal. And I also wanted to bring it up because the fantasy football draft is where, and I know we've talked about this before, Josh would record a song very much like the songs he does at the end of each podcast. And basically it's 12 guys. We've been doing this for almost 20 years. And the highlight of the weekend is sort of gathering around fairly late into the evening for Josh to basically drop that year's song. And I just cannot tell you how delighted we are to hear it, how much anticipation there there is. Sometimes you hear about really big pop stars doing listening parties where they sort of fly people in on private jets and then have them come to some barn in, you know, a sparsely populated state and have to listen to a whole album. And I imagine when the album is great, it is as thrilling as it is for us when we listen to the song. And, you know, we started this podcast, it dawned on me that it would be very cool if Josh was willing to do that for every episode. It's a big lift and obviously I have nothing to do with it. And Josh has to carry it all on his own. And I'm just so grateful that he does it week in and week out. I know it's not easy. I think they're always great. And I just wanted to use today's top of show to share my appreciation for Josh and all the hard work he does. And you know, again, there's a reason sometimes, I have to admit, there's a reason he's my parents favorite today. Today we're talking to Steve Zahn, which was very exciting. He's one of those actors that has been in a hundred things that mean a lot to me. And especially movies like Reality Bites, which came out at an age where I first was starting to get really excited about movies. And I think there's that really cool thing you feel like people your age or close enough to your age are making movies about your generation and how thrilling it is to actually be sitting in a movie theater while that's happening. So Steve Zahn is with us. Josh and I will be together as I'm recording this. We will be together in 24 hours and I will probably be listening to this year's song at about 48 hours. So before that, why don't you all listen to Jeff Tweedy. Because I can say that now because Josh isn't here. He doesn't like the Jeff Tweedy. Tee up. And, you know, I'm now. What a missed opportunity. Do you guys want to hear some SNL stories.
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B
With the M Brothers family? Chips with the Minest Brothers. Here we go.
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C
Yes.
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A
That was so. You're so rattled by the text.
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B
I made it.
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C
You made it. I mean, full disclosure, we, you know, we. We have a timed zoom meetup and we didn't expect to see you. And then there you were.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Pre tech check. And then you've gone away for a few minutes and now you're back with us.
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B
But you didn't think you were going to see me. We.
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A
Based on the way you presented yourself, you had a sense of. Like you didn't want to be seen. Oh, oh, oh, right. Yeah.
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B
No.
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A
How are you, man?
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B
I'm great.
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You might have. You might have the most inline project with the title of this podcast that we've ever had.
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B
What?
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So our show's called Family Trips. You are currently in a movie called she Dances.
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B
Yes.
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A
Which is basically, to some degree, a father daughter road trip. Yeah. And it is starring your actual daughter. So, I mean, this is. If. If you weren't going to talk about it on Family Trips, I don't know where the pack you were going to talk about it.
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B
It's kind of crazy.
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A
It is kind of crazy. Before we get to that, you're from Minnesota.
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B
I am.
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A
And what's your sibling situation?
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B
I have two sisters. I have. I have an older sister, Heidi and a younger sister, Nancy. And Nancy is Korean.
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A
Interesting.
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B
All right.
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Interesting. And now I'm not, you know, I. I know you're not supposed to, you know, presume these things, but I'm gonna guess she was adopted.
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B
I mean, she's like. She was. I don't remember when she came over. I was too young.
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C
How old were you when she came over?
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B
I think I was like two and a half.
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A
And then how old was she?
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B
She was a kid, though, you know.
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A
Oh, wow. So she came over as a baby baby. Yeah.
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B
She. Well, not a baby baby. Maybe I was like three and she was one or something. I don't know.
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A
Gotcha.
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C
But there are. There is a two year difference between your ages.
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Yeah. Okay. To this day, the crazy thing is.
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Like, Nancy has the heaviest Minnesota accent of anybody I've ever met in my life.
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A
That's what we were just talking before you got on. We're not making this up. We were just talking about Fargo, the movie yeah. And there's that scene where she sees her old high school boyfriend. Right. And it's a really funny scene because you realize like, oh, of course, if you, if you grow up there, that's how you sound. It doesn't matter how you look, it's just the way people there talk.
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C
How much older is Heidi?
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B
Heidi's two years older than me.
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C
Okay, so you're a good little unit. You're good.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Were you guys close, the three of you?
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B
Yeah, I mean, Nancy and I, I think we're a little like, we played together. Yeah, yeah, we were tight for sure.
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C
Was Heidi too cool for you?
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B
No, she was just, you know, she was the oldest.
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A
Right, right.
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B
You want to hang out?
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A
My, my brother in law was adopted when he was five years old. Which is kind of crazy like how old that is. From Russia. But what do you think it was? What led your parents to make that decision? Because I think it's such a altruistic.
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B
No, no, my parents are really amazing people. I mean, my dad was a pastor, a Lutheran minister, and he was a chaplain on universities. He's really a cool guy. And my parents were just really, they're just, to this day, they're just really giving, open hearted, helping people and they wanted to do that, I thought, you know, and back then, back then Korea was, was, you know, the, there's a lot of Koreans from that time that, you know, there was a need for those kids to find.
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A
And does. Do Heidi and Nancy still live in Minnesota?
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B
Nancy lives in Minnesota. And then Heidi lives in, in Idaho.
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A
Oh, fantastic. Now what did you guys. Is it safe to assume that you were living one of those Minnesota lake upbringings?
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B
Yeah, but, yeah, but we didn't have the cash, but we had friends that had cash and had the cabin and you know, and you would learn how to water ski and I loved going to people's cabins. It was so much fun. And then when I got older and I, I surprised my parents, I, I bought a cabin.
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A
Wow.
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B
It was Christmas and we had this big. We, you know, it was like, okay, the day after Christmas we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna go somewhere and you gotta kind of dress up. I had to like throw them off a little bit.
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That's a very good throw off.
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B
Right?
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A
Very impressive.
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B
We had a carpool and, and my, my brother in law and he was instructed to take the exit and mom was like, I thought we were going to Duluth. I don't know what Martin's doing.
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This is crazy.
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And so he pulled up to the cabin and I was like, here. It's the cabin. And so from that moment, we had like a family cabin. It was kind of for everybody, and it was really cool.
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C
That's great.
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A
I won. Did you get the reaction you wanted from your parents when you told them you had bought them the cabin?
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B
No, because I would cry and.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, I would. I would do the thing that would. Would make the trailer.
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A
Yep.
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But. But they're very, you know, they were like, wait, what? I don't get.
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For like a half hour, they were still just. They were still working through their. Their grief about not going to Duluth.
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B
Going to some buffet.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Why did we have to get dressed up?
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A
Yeah. Well, I don't know when we're going to eat. That is lovely. So how old were you when you were, you know, when you had that cabin money?
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B
I bought that. I forget. I forget.
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A
How old were your kids? Was it. Were your kids. My kids were like.
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B
My kids were like seven, you know.
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C
You know, were they more psyched about it then than your parents were?
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B
Yeah, everybody. You know, my nieces were all jazzed. It was. Yeah. Really cool place on.
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C
Is it on a lake or in the woods?
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On a lake, yeah.
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B
There's over 10,000, you know.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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C
We've got a. We've got a buddy who had us all up to Lake Minnetonka a few years ago, and gosh, it was just amazing.
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Yeah.
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It's like, there's a lot of people in that lake.
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A
Yeah.
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B
This was boonies.
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A
Yeah. And now was that an annual trip once you bought the cabin? Was that something you go to once a year?
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B
No, no, that was. They. They used it a lot more.
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A
Great.
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B
We did trips when we were kids.
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A
Yeah.
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Where the crazy. We didn't have money, so we. We would. You know, our parents brainwashed us into thinking we're lucky because we get to camp.
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A
Right.
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And we get to koas that have pools.
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Right. Right.
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B
And so we would. We would do the. The classic Griswold, you know, two week trip in an Aspen Dodge. Aspen. I think it was like a yellow station wagon. And we'd. And, you know, we go west. No air conditioning, Right? No air conditioning. It's crazy, right? We'd put towels in the windows and wet them.
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A
Oh, my God. I've never heard that. We've talked to a lot of people from the era, and I've never heard wet towels in the window. That would help.
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B
Yeah. Because it would blow through the wet towel and it would just be Cool.
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A
Oh, yeah.
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B
At night.
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Is it as buggy as I remember my time in Minnesota? Yeah.
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B
It's insane.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It's crazy.
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A
And they don't really have that sort of Minnesota nice about them, the bugs from.
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B
No.
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A
Yeah, they sort of even I live.
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B
In Kentucky now, and they, people hear them.
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A
Like, there's a lot of bugs here.
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B
I'm like, no, there's, no, there's not one.
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A
Yeah.
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C
When you did these koa trips when you're driving, would you, would you sort of like, set up camp for a few days at a time or were you just going place to place?
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B
We were going.
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A
Yeah.
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What were your destinations? What were your, what were the big landmarks?
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Right.
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And then our relatives in Phoenix. And then, you know, it was like. And then out east, it was like, we're gonna go see our friends in Michigan. And then we're gonna, we're gonna see what we're gonna hit along the way to Washington D.C. and then we stopped. The, the, my most, the favorite place I've ever been to when I was a kid was, was, was Gettysburg.
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A
Oh, really?
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B
We stopped there for two days. My sisters were, like, going to claw their eyes out, they were so bored. And it literally, it, it changed my life. It really did. And that's, I was fascinated with it. And, and it's, you know, it's, I, I, I just loved it. I, I, I remember when you went on a trip and you, you had your camera.
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A
Yeah.
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And you. And we got like, 2:36 picture roll, right?
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A
Yeah.
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B
You could take two.
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A
Yeah.
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Get that, you know, developed when we got home. So you were kind of like, I don't know. Should I take a picture?
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A
Right, right, right.
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Or should I take a picture of the cow? Which one? You know, and I wasted all my pictures on. And I still have the, I still have the photo album. It's like pictures of fields.
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C
Were they, like, where, like, battles had taken place or.
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Yeah, this was a battlefield.
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C
Yeah.
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For some reason I would take, like, this, like these rocks with, like. And I've been there, you know, since then. Many, many times. Right. I took my kids there. Right. We did a road trip and redid the whole.
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A
Where they. Did your kids land on the side of you or the side of your sisters when they went?
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B
They, no, they were, they really dug it.
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A
That's great.
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Yeah, we, we decided, my wife Robin and I, we were like, okay, these guys, they need to, they've had some cushy hotels and sure lights and stuff. I was like, let's do a road trip. Let's go to Gettysburg. They're like, great. It's like, you know, it's like, how far is that? Yeah, we could do it in one day. So we went there, and we stayed at this. We checked into a motel, and the kids freaked out, and they. They. They came. They ran into the room. They're like, dad, this place is great. I'm like, why? What's up? Nate said, come here. We went outside, and it's like, they were so excited that there were vending machines.
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Of course. Yeah, yeah. My kids would lose my mind. It is true. Like, that is still. It's funny that even though, like, my kids don't. I mean, again, I don't feel like they don't see vending machines because they were just more, you know, ubiquitous when we were growing up. But, like, they're like, this is the greatest thing ever.
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I could pick whatever I want. Like, the refrigerator of all time.
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It's like a carnival game, like, with the club. But you win.
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Yeah. Every time.
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C
Every time you win.
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Frustration.
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Yeah. Were you. It is very funny, by the way, like, not just taking a picture of a field without, like, any, like. Like, plaque or anything telling you what it is. It's so funny to take a picture of a place where an interesting tap. Interesting thing happened 200 years ago.
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It's just like.
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You see this? You would not believe what happened 200 years before I showed up.
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B
There was a lot of dudes here.
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Yeah.
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Wedding profusely wool.
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A
Did you. Were you a history kid before you went to Gettysburg, or do you feel like that turned a switch for you?
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B
No, I think that turned a switch. I mean, I was a little bit. I mean, I was the kid that in. In elementary school that, you know, at teacher conferences were like, we're a little concerned.
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A
Right.
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He just gets, like, these big World War II books and whatever, and not never Curious George or whatever. So I always. I had nation with it, so. And I still do.
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C
Did you, like, have little army guys that you would paint? Did you. Were your toys?
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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Model airplanes.
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It's nice to know, you know, that a lot of these red flags don't necessarily mean, you know, that you're going to go down to a life of evil. You just like paying little army guys. But you actually were gonna. You were gonna. You were considering the military, correct?
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B
I was. When I was young and I was in high school. And then I remember with a friend, we were like, let's join the Marines. And he did.
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A
Oh, man.
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And I was like, nah, I don't Think so. It's not for me.
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And then did you, like, calm the next day and were you like, oh, my God, that's so funny that we almost joined the Marines. And he was like, I did, Steve. What do you mean? Was that so you think that was a joke?
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Yeah, he was a little mad.
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Mm.
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B
Here we go.
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A
Do you. Do you remember, like, at the time, were you, like, when you were in a car with sort of wet towels in the window at the time, were you, like, this is a disaster, or do you, like, looking back, be like, oh, my God, that was really hot?
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B
No, no, it was great. It was fun. It was, like, exciting. It was. It was. You know, now it's. I would say. I would just be like, oh, God, can we just sit for, like, five minutes in a place?
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Yeah.
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But it was great. You know, it was. I didn't. I was a kid. I hadn't been to Washington, D.C. my God.
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A
I mean, I remember when we went to Washington, we went to the. The US Mint. Do you remember that, Josh? Like, where they, like, where they pressed coins.
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B
Boring.
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I mean, but I was so excited. I got a little book of, like, freshly, like, coins that have been printed that day. Like, dimes.
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C
Yeah.
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Shiny. It was, like, one of those things as a kid that you're just, like, so happy to have everybody who comes over, you're like, you want to see my dimes? Brand new. I got the new dimes. And I just sometimes have so much appreciation for, like, just knowing how deathly bored my parents must have been. Our parents must have been.
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B
Yeah. Watching my dad has been out of his mind. I mean, our tent that we slept in was, like, you know, today they weigh, like, five pounds. This was, like, rolled up on the roof.
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Yeah.
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And it was like. It was like a mini circus tent. Like.
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Yeah.
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B
You know, had the peak in the thing and the.
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C
Yeah, we had one of those. Man. It was.
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A
Yeah. Was it. Was it. Was it all five Zahns under one tent? Yeah.
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C
Were you part. Were you an assistant of setting it up? Like, who. Who was in charge of getting that thing up?
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B
That was dad.
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A
All that.
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C
All that just.
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B
And then I'm sure we helped out.
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A
Do you feel like you could put that 10 up today, Steve, if. If had. If you had to.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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Confident.
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B
I think. I think it might be easier than.
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A
The modern tent with all the. Yeah.
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B
With all the weird. Where does that go?
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A
Right?
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C
They do. I have a tent, and every time I go camping, the first thing I do is I take out my chair and I open, like, a Coors Light, and I just look at the diagram for, like, as long as it takes me to drink that beer. And it's like, all right, so the orange things have to match up to the orange and these. And it crosses, but not really.
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Yeah. Yeah. You're, like, wishing it into existence. You're like, yeah.
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C
But then I. I sort of. You know, I have to just take it in again and then. And then get it underway, and I.
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B
Just go, like, you know what?
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A
I'm.
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B
Use it as a pillow.
- [24:13]
A
Yeah. I'm just gonna roll it up and hope it doesn't rain. Did you ever take your kids on a camping trip?
- [24:20]
B
Yeah, we used to always. I live on a farm, so it was. It was fun to set up the tent down by the pond and, you know, and then we would. We would go on these late night hikes, you know, ghostly hikes in the woods and stuff. It was really fun.
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A
Did your kids almost exclusively grow up in Kentucky? Oh, that's amazing.
- [24:44]
B
Yeah, we moved here in 2004. Oh, wow.
- [24:49]
A
So you really. Yeah, we did not have that.
- [24:51]
B
Crazy people, like, what? Where are you going? Like, we lived on a farm in New Jersey, but we. We moved out of the city in 1991 because.
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A
Wow.
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B
We. We. I met my wife on a national tour of Bye bye Birdie. We made this money. We're on the road for 13 months. You're like, we should do something with this money. Let's buy a weekend cabin in the Poconos.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And so we did it, and then three weeks later, we're out of work, and we had to move there.
- [25:27]
A
Oh, perfect.
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B
We were living in Hobo.
- [25:30]
A
So you didn't save any money for rent at all? Yeah, it was.
- [25:32]
B
Right. So it was forced upon us, but we just. It was great. And then we kind of became, like, this adult camp, or all our friends wanted to come out and barbecue and hang out, and it was cool.
- [25:46]
A
Yeah. I would imagine, you know, whether it was from good or bad financial planning, other New York actors were probably really psyched to know a couple who had a cabin in the Poconos.
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B
Yeah. And our mortgage was, like, 250 bucks, you know, wasn't.
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A
That's great.
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B
So.
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A
And you were lording that over your friends. Right? You would always. Just. While they were barbecuing, you would just talk about how low your mortgage was.
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B
I know. I was like, hey, guys, seriously, this is, like, the way to go. I don't have to go do everything, like, and be a little more picky. 250.
- [26:18]
A
Yeah, I can swing pretty good. 250.
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B
I could cut once for that.
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A
Yeah. All I have to do is, like, one movie every 10 years.
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C
So you had grandparents in Phoenix, you.
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B
Said I had an aunt and uncle, and so I. Uncle.
- [26:36]
C
And what was the vibe there? How long would you spend in Phoenix?
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B
That was one of Those weird things where, you know, you go visit your. Your relatives that you don't really know anymore. So it's like, you know, so we hung out and I can't remember it, really. I remember we went to Tijuana.
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A
Wow.
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B
For one day, and I remember that. And I got like a marionette puppet, you know.
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A
Right. Yeah.
- [27:04]
C
I've still never been to Tijuana. It's so close, and it's just.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, the. With the cup, with the. With the ball.
- [27:12]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [27:13]
C
I think it's just called. I mean, it must have a better name than the cup and ball game, but.
- [27:17]
A
Yeah. Yeah. You know, don't run from the obvious. You know, when they were naming it, they're like, we can do this. I'm crazy. We just call it what it is. Were your parents both. Do you think your parents sort of shared their affection for a long road trip, or do you think they did it out of necessity?
- [27:35]
B
I think they did it out of necessity. I think. I think it was the only thing we could afford.
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A
Right.
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B
It was kind of the only option. We couldn't, you know.
- [27:44]
A
Were they an affable couple in the front seat? Did they, like, get along? Like, our parents are very much in love, but they had a tendency to like, maybe, you know, be a little cutthroat.
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B
Yeah, they were very. Minnesota, kind of like.
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A
Always.
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B
Cool.
- [28:01]
A
You know, that's very nice.
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B
But dad would wind up.
- [28:04]
A
Was it strange coming.
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B
Not wind up.
- [28:07]
A
Was it strange sort of coming. Oh, from that vibe and going into show business, were you like. Oh, not a lot of people are like my parents.
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B
Yeah, I guess. But everybody's parents are different, right?
- [28:18]
A
I mean. Yeah, I mean, it's true.
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B
Yeah, a little bit.
- [28:21]
A
Are you surprised, having raised your kids in Kentucky, that they. That your daughter found her way into the. The same field?
- [28:29]
B
Yeah, totally. It really is strange. It's like. And I remember things, little things early in life, like, you know, both kids at one point just saying, I want to dance. Like.
- [28:45]
A
Really.
- [28:45]
B
Like, we never. We never put that. You know, we gave them, like, guitars and paints and, you know, hiking in the woods, doing all kinds of different things, but we, We. We never put them in the show or whatever, and it was really on their own. And I always thought that was really interesting. And it's like, yeah, they grew up on a farm with horses and goats and stuff. And yet my son's a playwright. You know, my. My daughter's an actor. Yeah, it's.
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A
Huh. Yeah. That's so funny. It is. I mean, it I mean, again, obviously it comes from, you know. Right. It's in your wife's blood as well. Like being a performer. Do you think they, like, saw. Do you think it's like that they just want to do it, or do you think they saw it was something that, like, made you guys happy?
- [29:28]
B
I think maybe a little bit of both.
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A
Yeah.
- [29:30]
B
You know, it's like, see the world, they understand the world. You know, that. I guess that's the leg up. It's like, you know, the plumber's son understands that job, you know, and how hard it is and how easy it is and what the benefits are and what the bad things are. I think my kids saw that. But, you know, at the end of the day that you gotta over prepare, show up early and not be a dick and, you know, and there's a little magic involved there. You know, what is it? Opportunity meets preparation. That's luck. So. Yeah. So it's a little weird. It's. It's. It's. It's strange. But. But they're both so incredibly talented.
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A
It's crazy wonderful.
- [30:16]
B
Like, a lot further than I was at the time, by far. I was an idiot.
- [30:21]
A
Were they with you when you. Because I know first season of White Lotus is like middle pandemic, like, ghost town hotel. Did they get to come?
- [30:30]
B
My. I asked everybody in my family. I was like, anybody who wants to come. And here. Here was the thing, though. The kicker was we couldn't leave the property.
- [30:41]
A
Right. Right.
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B
So.
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C
But it's a beaut. But it's a beautiful property.
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B
You know, I was like, dude, it. It'll be great.
- [30:49]
A
Yeah.
- [30:50]
B
I mean, you're gonna be able to just. Yeah, but I can't go hiking. I can't go look at whales.
- [30:56]
A
Yeah. Can't get a hangout. That was when people forget, like, it was very hard to look at whales during the pandemic.
- [31:03]
B
Well, we would.
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A
We.
- [31:05]
B
We. We really were conscious of how hard it was for people, you know?
- [31:10]
A
Yeah.
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B
Every night we were, you know, as a cast, like, I just in the. In the ocean, watching the sun go down, waiting for the. The green spark every night. And it was just bliss.
- [31:27]
A
Yeah.
- [31:27]
B
And we were doing work that we knew at the time was just really good and solid and fun and, you know, challenging. So it was a really great gig in a horrible time. People in New York like, banging pots and pans while we're in the ocean.
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A
So.
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B
Yeah, we were really lucky people.
- [31:50]
A
At least there was that nice thing of, like, when it came out, everybody loved it so much. That I feel like they couldn't keep being mad at you. You know what I mean? If the show had stunk, they'd be like this asshole.
- [32:03]
C
Well, it also let you be like, oh, I wish we could take this amazing vacation. Except. Oh, man, a lot of murder.
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A
Yeah.
- [32:10]
C
A lot of murder on nice vacations. I guess.
- [32:12]
B
It is funny, though, when he stayed up. You know, when you stay at a place for any. For any length of time over a week or two, you start seeing them like, this couch actually sucks.
- [32:23]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [32:25]
B
This is like the couch my great aunt and uncle.
- [32:28]
A
Yeah.
- [32:29]
B
Gave me, you know, or whatever. And you're like, all right.
- [32:33]
A
Yeah. Did you. So nobody came. Did they all turn you down?
- [32:37]
B
Everybody turned me down.
- [32:38]
A
Wow. And they. It doesn't sound like they regret it at all. So how is it. So you just did a movie with your daughter. How was it collaborating with her?
- [32:51]
B
It was amazing. It was. It was. I mean, you know, it's a miracle.
- [32:55]
A
That anything gets made a miracle.
- [32:58]
B
It's just insane. And, you know, she's getting older and I'm getting old. You know, it's all this stuff that had to just kind of happen, and it happened, and it was. It was great. I mean, I could. If it all ended right now, I'd be the happiest actor ever. It's. It's. Yeah.
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A
Do you think it was. I mean, I would imagine it might be easier for the parent to be in a movie with their child than for the child to be in a movie with their parent, but do you think she had an equally wonderful time? I know I'm kind of putting you on the spot here.
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B
Yeah, no, I think she did. I mean, you know what? We did. We. We worked a lot.
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A
Yeah.
- [33:37]
B
I was doing a show called Silo.
- [33:39]
A
Big fan of Silo. Big fan of the books. Read the book. It's great. Think you guys have done a great job.
- [33:43]
B
Oh, good. Thanks. Yes. Season four is insane. But I was there, and Audrey came over for three weeks, and we just. Every day I was like, do you want to read it? Yeah, it's freaking. So we had it. You know, we didn't have time. You know, the other thing we did with our production was we had rehearsal that no one does anymore.
- [34:06]
C
Yeah. That's so rare. It's so nice when you get it.
- [34:11]
B
Sometimes you don't even rehearse on the day. I mean, it's just like, I'll just do it. Yeah.
- [34:16]
A
Really? Yeah. Yeah, that's how. It's a dark time. It's a dark time. For the creative process. Yeah. It's like, I feel like right now that people who like pay for movies are like, what if you did your best take first? And then we wouldn't have to do any of the other takes. Right? Try that. Try that.
- [34:34]
B
Let's just shoot the rehearsal. Yeah, I don't want you to have that.
- [34:38]
A
Yeah, I don't like that part.
- [34:41]
B
Yeah, I don't get to edit.
- [34:43]
A
No, that's the other thing. You don't get to edit. And then where do you shoot Silo? Is Silo somewhere London? London. Do you feel like you've done a good job? I mean, I know obviously when you're actually shooting, the schedule does not provide a lot of time, but do you feel like you've done a good job when you're on location actually exploring the place, places you're at?
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B
Oh, yeah. I love London.
- [35:05]
A
Yeah.
- [35:06]
B
Great. This year it was crazy. My business partner, right. Rick Gomez, he's an actor. He's in Band of Brothers, the whole thing. So we, we wrote she Dances the movie.
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A
He directed it.
- [35:18]
B
Yes, he directed it and we wrote together. He. He's in Silo. He plays Kennedy with the, with the long hair.
- [35:26]
A
Oh my God.
- [35:27]
B
Right. So Rick, that's. This is all coincidental, by the way. It's crazy. And then our characters work together, so we have similar schedule. So. And we, we're living like an eight minute walk from each other.
- [35:43]
C
That's so great.
- [35:44]
B
Like a pub halfway like called Hemingway. And we're gonna just sit and write. It's gonna be great.
- [35:51]
A
But things are really. Things are really lining up nicely for you, Steve.
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B
It's a weird.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It's like a really. I have a lot of stuff right now and it's. It's really awesome. It's. I've. I don't think I've ever, ever been this busy.
- [36:06]
C
It must. It's got to be nice to have a farm to sort of. When you do get a moment to tap out and just like it's a.
- [36:13]
B
There's a lot though. It's like leave a farm. I'm leaving for five months.
- [36:18]
A
Wow. Wow.
- [36:20]
B
You know, it's impossible to pack for five months. But the other thing, like, I have to, like, I have all these things to do. Like I gotta get. Order the wood.
- [36:30]
A
Yeah.
- [36:31]
B
Kind of like winterize my, my machines. You know, the fuel. Like, I gotta think, you know, I'm the having with a phone in my house. It's like. Did you get the rug guy?
- [36:51]
C
So do you still, you still have the cabin?
- [36:54]
B
No, we still.
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A
Okay. Okay.
- [36:57]
C
So, I mean, if you've got this farm, obviously, on a farm, there is a lot to do, kind of all the time. Like, if you and your family are looking to go, just totally relax and chill and they're not willing to come to a White Lotus trip with you.
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A
What do you.
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C
What.
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A
What.
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C
What are the Zahns after in a nice vacation?
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B
You know what? We rarely in our existence took vacations.
- [37:24]
A
Gotcha.
- [37:25]
B
We just partially because of where we live. And when I get off work, I just want to, you know.
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A
Yeah.
- [37:34]
B
Do something. We do stuff around here.
- [37:36]
A
Yeah.
- [37:36]
B
You know, there's. There's, you know, hiking and camping and all that stuff. We. But we did, like, a great big vacation to Jamaica once that was really fun. You know, stayed at goldeneye. We realized everybody else has stayed, you know.
- [37:55]
C
Did you bump into people you knew?
- [37:57]
B
No. Shaggy, right?
- [37:59]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [38:01]
C
So funny, that Shaggy.
- [38:02]
A
I mean, that's kind of the full experience.
- [38:06]
B
And my. In my. And my son had this, like, weird breakfast relationship with Harry Belafonte, who he was. And I was like, that guy is on so many different levels. Like, such a. Yeah.
- [38:20]
A
Like, it's like, I also do, like, though, when anybody. Like, when a young person meets a very famous person and just really enjoys them without knowing that they're really famous, like, you know, that old dude rocks. Yeah.
- [38:36]
B
I think I let it go. He loved his voice.
- [38:38]
A
Yeah. Yeah. Like, also, I love when young people are like, that guy. Let me break some news. That guy's got a great voice. You're like, oh, dude. Last to know.
- [38:48]
B
Have you ever heard a song called Stairway to Heaven?
- [38:51]
A
Yeah. It's like, yeah, rocks, dad. My son's actually literally doing that with Led Zeppelin because there's a Led Zeppelin song in one of the Thor movies. And he's like, do you know this band? I'm like, yeah, dude. They don't know. Thor is not breaking new artists.
- [39:09]
B
And now. And now my kids are giving. They're bringing stuff to me.
- [39:14]
A
Yeah. How is that? Do you. I mean, obviously they have taste. It must be great.
- [39:18]
B
Taste. Like, my son's taste in music is insane. I'm just like, send me stuff.
- [39:22]
A
Just that. Because, again, like, at some point, you're just like, well, I'm out of the loop. Nobody wants to bring me back in. If it's not your own kids, Like, I don't know what you're doing.
- [39:30]
B
Right. And I've given him stuff, you know, I've said. I'm like, you know, he's a huge built A spill fan, you know.
- [39:37]
A
Oh, there you go. So he's minor. Mine are not quite at the music taste level.
- [39:43]
B
No.
- [39:43]
C
Well, they're little.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Your oldest is nine.
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A
He's nine, seven, and three, so.
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B
Yeah, dude. Yeah, man, those are great. You know what? There wasn't a bad time. And it gets better and better.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It's just insane.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But now I.
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A
Did they. When your kids left for school, did which. Where did they go?
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B
My son went to DePaul Theater School.
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A
Okay.
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B
And. And he was there for two years and then came back. He was doing the coven. Came back here and finished up at uk and then my daughter went to a. A musical theater conservatory. It was really hard to get it. It was called Baldwin Wallace. That was outside Cleveland. That's like one of those, like, insane.
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A
And she.
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B
She was there for two years, and they were like, you know, she worked at this theater, the Fulton in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, and they asked her to be in the fall show. I said, are you going back to school? What do I do, dad? What do I. My wife and I were like, you do the show.
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A
Do the show. Yeah.
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B
Here we go.
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A
So your wife, Robin, is she also from the Midwest?
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B
No she, she's from Kentucky, so I can be here.
- [45:06]
A
Gotcha.
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B
Because we've been coming here since 1990 when we met.
- [45:10]
A
Got it.
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B
Love it. Because of the history and all that. And I just love Kentucky.
- [45:15]
A
It's beautiful.
- [45:16]
B
Yeah. So when, when, you know, we were living in West Central Jersey, which is about as redneck as you get.
- [45:21]
A
Yeah, right. Not that much of a jump. Yeah.
- [45:25]
B
If you want anything other than a burger, pizza, you're screwed, you know. So my convinced her to move back here.
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A
Did you see? You never lived in Los Angeles, huh?
- [45:38]
B
No, but, but I would, you know.
- [45:40]
A
Of course, go work. Right.
- [45:41]
B
Four months and it was great.
- [45:44]
C
Yeah.
- [45:44]
B
I was like, when I move here, if I could, if they, if I can stay in a cool place.
- [45:49]
C
Well, I mean, yeah, you think that for a while and then two weeks later you look at the couch and you're like, oh, this ain't so great. Not so great.
- [45:58]
A
Yeah, I, you know, I've been very spoiled because, like, I've basically, you know, I had a showbiz career that's also like, I mean, I've worked in one building for like the entirety of it. Like, the entirety of my career is like home games. And sometimes I am like a little bit of jealous of people who like, go and do, you know, travel for gigs and they're all like, be jealous about the first week. Like just the first week.
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B
Yeah, I mean, I really do like going. I think I love going on location because I live on a farm.
- [46:25]
A
Right.
- [46:26]
B
Run on my road. It's. I see cows and, and horses and I'll go to London, run in Victoria Park. Just like I, I love. My favorite thing about this business is just being a part of the circus. I just love the people and I love hanging out. I love being on set and I love the strangeness of it all. That's my.
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A
How were your, how were your Minnesota parents with your decision to do this for a living?
- [46:52]
B
I went to a school called Gustavus Adolphus College. It was a small liberal arts college in Minnesota. Swedish, Lutheran. And I, yeah, I was, I, I, I called him up after this trip to London. I said, hey, I'm going to drop out. They were like, okay, so are you coming home now or what's the deal? I was like, that's a good question. Do you think this is verbatim? I was like, do you think they would give me like the money back for that second half year? And they were like, no, I don't think so. I was like, oh, great. Well, then I'll probably Just live here.
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A
Oh, all right.
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B
And I'll, like, go to my history class and. And I, like, sleep in. Maybe I'll try that crazy thing, reading books.
- [47:49]
A
So funny that, like, wait, dropping. Dropping out of college does mean you have more time to read books.
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B
It was bliss. It was so great. I went to all my teachers, I said, I'm dropping out, but I'm going to stay because I paid for all the food and everything. So it's going to be great. I'm going to sleep in, you know, I'm going to, like, drive my friends nuts, you know. Hey, want to get a pizza? It's Tuesday night, man. Like, I was just game.
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C
And so was that, like, a half a year that you were there that you had paid for?
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B
Yeah, well, I was there for the full year, but. Yeah, but my parents were not surprised. They were like, great, go for it.
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A
Yeah, I really, like just the. Like, I like that you really wanted to let your teachers know, like, I'm going to be sleeping in. I think they were like, steve, you.
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B
Know, just don't show up sort of thing. Like, hey, I don't want you to think that, you know, I don't like you or that I'm a loser, you know?
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C
And the history professor just said, you can still. I mean, you've. You paid.
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B
I went to his class, and then I remember driving back to the college to take the. The essay, the final. And I sat down and I was sitting there and I started the essay, and then I just took another page, and I went and I wrote him a little letter, you know, to say I liked his class. And. And I got up and everybody was like, what's up with a genius guy.
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C
That'S like a contestant on Jeopardy. That just writes a, like, note on the final Jeopardy thing? That's like, love you, mom and dad. It's like, you have no guess for what happened in 1836.
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B
Anyway, you're done, right? I'm like, yeah, I'm done. He's like, yeah.
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A
I knew Ethan Hawks in the movie. Have you been. You guys must have been friends for a long time.
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B
Forever.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah, I met him. I met him doing a play at Playwrights Horizon in New York called Sophistry. Wow. And. And then we did Reality Bites right after that. Then we came back and did Sophistry again because it was so popular.
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A
And then before Reality Bites came out.
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B
Yeah. Yes.
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A
So you had that window between making a movie that will change your life and it coming out.
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B
Right. It was crazy. And then. And then we did with our theater company called Malapart, and we did it. We did a. A play called Wild Dogs. So there was a period of time in my career where I just worked with Ethan.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Four gigs in a row. And, yeah, we're. We're still just really tight. Good friends.
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A
And were you. Even those years where you guys were living in New Jersey, did you feel, like, really connected to that, that sort of 90s New York theater scene?
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B
Yeah, for sure.
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A
That's great.
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B
I mean, even though I was outside, it was, you know. Yeah, it was. It was. It was exciting.
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A
You know, it is like. I think it's the. I mean, I moved here in 2001, and I think it's the era that I'm, like, the most, like, jealous of. When I see, like, pictures of, like, you and your cohort from that era, I'm like, yeah.
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B
Hanging out, you know, like, Rick Gomez and I, we go, like. We were definitely in the same bars.
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A
Yeah.
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B
We just, you know, we were. You know, it was. Was it Sammy Rockwell and Josh Hamilton and, you know, Ruffalo and, you know, everybody was just kind of, you know, Phil Hoffman.
- [51:15]
C
What was the bar? Was there a bar that you sort.
- [51:18]
B
Of a home base that Sam loved in the. Because he was always in the East Village. He still is. I can't remember the name of that place.
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A
Okay.
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B
There's so many places that are no longer there.
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A
That's old.
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B
I am, man.
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A
Yeah. No, we. I was just talking to I, by the way, somebody, like, way, way younger than us, but, like, Zoe Kravitz was just on my show, and we were talking about, like, she was in New York in, like, 2004, and she's like, all the places are gone. Yeah. And I'm like. I am so happy, though, to have reached the point where I can complain about how New York has changed. Like, that was always my dream to become that. That grumpy dude.
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B
Right.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It's crazy, though. I mean, I think of moving there, you know? I mean, Hell's Kitchen was Hell's Kitchen.
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A
Yeah. They had a reason for it.
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C
Do you embrace the derby when it comes to town, or is it sort of like. That's a. That's a circus.
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A
You. You don't.
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C
You're not part of.
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B
The derby's great. The derby's great. If you go as a celebrity, I would not advise going to the derby where you have to sign a contract. Well, I'm gonna get in trouble. Look, when I go to the derby, I know the local people. I'm in Midway Kentucky right now. Right. There's a. There's a railroad track that goes down the middle of.
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C
I've been there. I love it. There's that nice little haberdashery that I crit.
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A
Yeah.
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C
I bought a jacket there last time I was there.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Across the street.
- [52:47]
C
Oh, amazing.
- [52:49]
B
There's a building next to Critten and Rollins, and I bought that building, and my son and his. His girlfriend are living upstairs and they're putting in. They're putting in a cafe, pub.
- [53:03]
C
Oh, the woman that owned that shop. I walked in there and there was no way I wasn't buying something because she kept bringing me things. She was like, try. Try this. And.
- [53:13]
B
Yeah, yeah, she's amazing. I want to.
- [53:16]
A
She's great.
- [53:16]
B
I want to show you the town that's. Too many wires.
- [53:21]
C
Too many wires. But no, I mean, that town midway is beautiful.
- [53:26]
A
Oh, wow.
- [53:26]
C
It's so charming. Still got your Christmas tree up, I see.
- [53:30]
B
Yeah. You know.
- [53:33]
A
That is. Did you. While you were panning the camera, did you realize, like, oh, shit, they're going to see it's August and I have a Christmas tree up. Literally? I. By the way, I thought it was like a trick on my. I thought it was an optical illusion. And I was like, that wasn't a Christmas tree. And then when Josh said it, I'm like, fuck, I thought it was. Are you guys like. Are you guys kind of like just year rounders on Christmas?
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B
No, I just drink a lot.
- [54:01]
A
Great, Great.
- [54:03]
B
I'm gonna get to that tree tomorrow.
- [54:05]
A
That's fantastic. Just like the driest, deadest tree.
- [54:10]
B
Yeah. It's like, I'll get into it.
- [54:12]
A
Yeah. You know what? If you want me to take it down, then. You're the Grinch.
- [54:17]
B
Yeah. It's fake, right?
- [54:20]
A
Yeah. Get off my back.
- [54:22]
B
Tree. That was the best thing we ever did.
- [54:25]
A
Fig tree. Yeah. Josh, do you. Do you fake it?
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C
No, we reel it.
- [54:30]
A
Yeah.
- [54:31]
B
We really have a. Dude, you got to go to this company. I can't remember the name of it. And it's like the. The lighting patterns. There's like. There's like 60 options, and it's like. It's insane.
- [54:43]
C
Do you go through all.
- [54:44]
A
Now I understand why you don't take it down. Yeah.
- [54:47]
C
Gotta get the most out of this.
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B
Be fun.
- [54:49]
C
Those lighting patterns.
- [54:51]
B
Yeah.
- [54:52]
A
This has been absolutely lovely. Congratulations. She dances. Your daughter Audrey is in it. Oh, Anaconda. I'm very excited about Anaconda.
- [55:01]
B
So am I. Anaconda. Insane. Here's. Yeah. Here's my lineup. Yeah, yeah.
- [55:07]
A
Line it up.
- [55:07]
B
Coming Silo. Coming out on Apple. And then. And then Chad Powers show.
- [55:15]
A
Oh, right. With Glenn Powell.
- [55:17]
B
Glenn Powell. It's going to be huge. It's really. It's really cool. It's a football show Sec. And we're. I have a fictional team. I'm the coach. And the Mannings, they're producing that. And anyway, that's, that's going to be great. And then I did. Yeah, I did Anaconda with. With Jack Black and Paul Rudd and.
- [55:38]
A
More people that I kind of consider from that era.
- [55:41]
B
Yeah. And we all work together. We all knew each other. We were like the old. In our little tent on set, like never leaving set.
- [55:50]
A
Was that Australia?
- [55:51]
B
Yeah.
- [55:52]
A
Fantastic.
- [55:53]
C
And Anaconda coming out. Christmas, right?
- [55:56]
B
Christmas Day.
- [55:57]
A
Is that why the trees are already up? Is that exciting?
- [56:00]
C
It's always, always Christmas for Steve.
- [56:03]
A
Yeah. You basically tell your agents, like, I only want to. I only want projects that are coming out at or around Christmas. That's where I'm at as a person.
- [56:13]
B
That's it.
- [56:13]
A
I have. Yeah.
- [56:14]
B
Yeah.
- [56:15]
A
Well, congrats. That's a lot. That's quite a lineup and a huge fan of yours for a long time. This is a delight to have time with you. Thank you so much. And now Josh is going to ask you some speed round questions.
- [56:28]
C
All right, here we go. Steve, you can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational?
- [56:36]
B
Educational.
- [56:37]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to call you out.
- [56:40]
B
I might throw in some action and some adventure. Sure.
- [56:44]
A
You, you like places that are. That were adventure 200 years ago and educational now.
- [56:50]
B
Yes, like I would. I would. But here, like, I would love to go to the island of Peleliu and see where. But that would be an adventure because it's a jungle and no one's there.
- [57:00]
A
Right, Right. Okay, great.
- [57:02]
C
What is your favorite means of transportation?
- [57:05]
B
My. My, my. My Kawasaki mule.
- [57:10]
A
All right. I love a mule. My kids, some of our neighbors have mules. And my kids, you know, when a mule pulls up, it's like I'm dead to them. They just, they would go with anybody in a mule. The Grim Reaper shows up at a mule, they'll just jump in the back.
- [57:25]
C
If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with?
- [57:35]
B
Real or not?
- [57:38]
C
Either one. Just a family.
- [57:40]
B
I like to go with Jack Black's family or Paul's family because that would just. It would just be funny if you.
- [57:49]
C
Had to be stranded on a desert island. With one member of your family, who would it be?
- [57:54]
B
My wife. For sure.
- [57:56]
A
Good answer.
- [57:57]
C
And then I've got a bunch of m. Name towns for you. Would you consider Mankato, Minneapolis, or Marshall your hometown?
- [58:07]
B
I was born in Marshall, but I grew up in Mankato.
- [58:12]
C
Would you recommend Mankato as a vacation destination?
- [58:16]
B
Not since the Vikings left summer camp.
- [58:19]
A
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- [58:21]
B
Doing their practices there.
- [58:23]
A
Are you still a big Vikings fan?
- [58:24]
B
I am.
- [58:25]
A
Great.
- [58:26]
B
Guess what. Guess, guess, guess who's playing in London.
- [58:30]
A
Oh.
- [58:30]
B
While you're there, hopefully hooking up the tickets. Who's listening on the line right now?
- [58:36]
A
Oh, somebody, hopefully. We're. We are very big Steelers fans, and we almost. We couldn't quite make Dublin work this year. They're playing Steelers.
- [58:47]
B
Right.
- [58:47]
A
But that game's in Ireland. Is. I don't think it's okay.
- [58:51]
B
But then we stay.
- [58:53]
A
Oh, you have two. You might have two. Is that. You're right. I think it is.
- [58:59]
B
You're a Pittsburgh Steeler fan.
- [59:01]
C
Yeah, Our father's from Pittsburgh. That's how it went down. We got. I mean, I got love for the Vikings also because of our buddy. Our buddy who lives up there.
- [59:10]
A
Yeah. We're always.
- [59:11]
C
We're always pulling.
- [59:12]
A
Pulling for him and for you guys and. And let's be honest, a lot of empathy for what a tortured franchise it's been.
- [59:20]
B
Dude, please.
- [59:21]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [59:23]
C
And then Seth has our final questions.
- [59:25]
A
Have you been to the Grand Canyon?
- [59:28]
B
Yes.
- [59:29]
A
And was it worth it?
- [59:30]
B
I can't. It was on trip with. With all the pictures, and I didn't take any pictures.
- [59:35]
A
Oh, interesting. Oh, I think. You know what? That's as good an answer as you're gonna get that you preferred to take pictures of fields.
- [59:41]
C
Empty fields versus an empty hole.
- [59:44]
B
I think I took a picture. I took pictures of. There was tortoises.
- [59:49]
A
Okay.
- [59:49]
B
That were there, and I took those pictures.
- [59:52]
A
Well, that's what everybody says. You go to the Grand Canyon for the tortoises.
- [59:55]
B
Maybe I was like, this would not capture this incredible moment.
- [60:00]
A
Yeah. You know what's cool over it? Yeah. That's. A lot of people try to get away saying they went to the Van Canyon. Yeah. But that doesn't count.
- [60:08]
B
No. From a commercial jet. Yeah.
- [60:11]
A
Yeah. I often think I just want to leave you with a very specific performance of yours in out of Sight. I feel like you did some of the most horrified acting that I. I've ever. I. I like it because basically we. We find out how awful it is just by looking at your face. And I always think, like, God, that was an incredible piece of acting.
- [60:36]
B
Well, thank you.
- [60:37]
A
You're very welcome. It's great. It's great.
- [60:40]
B
Appreciate that.
- [60:41]
A
You've been in a lot of great stuff, and thank you so much for your time. I hope to see you soon in person. Steve. Yeah.
- [60:47]
C
Have fun in London. Go Vikes.
- [60:49]
A
Thanks. Yes. Go, Vikes. Yeah. Go Steelers in Dublin. Go Vikes in London. Yeah. You gotta be happy with a split. Just take the split, Steve.
- [60:58]
B
I will. I will.
- [61:00]
A
All right. Bye, buddy.
- [61:01]
B
All right.
- [61:01]
A
All right. Take care.
- [61:02]
C
Thank you so much.
- [61:04]
A
Hey, Suf.
- [61:05]
B
Yeah, Suf.
- [61:07]
C
Do you see that? See what? Paschi. Steve Zahn's got Christmas tree up. Christmas tree. Yeah. And it's fall. That's weird. You think he's okay? Oh, yeah. Are you sure?
- [61:20]
A
Yeah. That's just Steve.
- [61:22]
B
All right.
- [61:23]
C
Back in the day, he and his wife Robin performed in a bunch of shows. After a tour of Bye Bye Birdie, bought a place in the Poconos just a few months later. They had trouble with the New York rent, so the cabin turned out to be best money that they ever spent.
- [61:43]
B
Early road trips. Family drove with purpose.
- [61:45]
C
Slept in a tent that was meant for a circus. Aunt and uncle in Phoenix with a sauna, cup and bowl game down in Tijuana had some success. Bought a place on the lake. Surprised his parents with a bit of a fake. Said they had to dress up, but that wasn't the truth. Confused why they weren't going to Duluuth Raised in Minnesota baby Steve Kawasaki Nakubota farmer Steve consider joining the Marines Private Steve but then he started doing scenes Actor Steve He's a real Globetrotter ghost Steve made a movie with his daughter dad Steve Night hikes that are haunted spooky Steve son hit it off with Belafonte As a child, family would take road trips camping at the Koas. But the trip to Gettysburg was the best of days. Wanted to share his love of it when his kids were preteens. But the thing they loved the most were the vending machines.
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A
Sa.