TONY GOLDWYN AND ANNA MUSKY-GOLDWYN Toured Iceland Together

Summary

Family Trips with the Meyers Brothers

Episode: Tony Goldwyn and Anna Musky-Goldwyn Toured Iceland Together

Release Date: January 20, 2026
Hosts: Seth Meyers & Josh Meyers
Guests: Tony Goldwyn & Anna Musky-Goldwyn

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Episode Overview

In this lively and heartfelt episode, Seth and Josh Meyers welcome actor-director Tony Goldwyn and his daughter, screenwriter and podcaster Anna Musky-Goldwyn. The Goldwyns share stories from their family trips—including a memorable, if over-guided, adventure to Iceland—reflect on east coast vs. west coast upbringings, discuss the joys and pitfalls of intergenerational travel, and offer relatable tales of vacation logistics, sibling dynamics, and parenting challenges. The episode is threaded with warmth, humor, and the candid banter characteristic of the Meyers Brothers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kicking Off: Sibling Banter, Dog Updates, and Tobogganing

• 00:00–05:49
  The episode begins with Seth and Josh catching up about family life, particularly Josh’s aging dog, Debbie, and their experiences learning how to give her medical treatments ("for your little girl to shake with being uncomfortable," Josh, 01:27).
• Seth shares recent tobogganing adventures with his kids, highlighting the blend of laughter and inevitable complaints about dragging sleds up hills ("25 seconds of laughter and then just like 35 minutes of bitching," Seth, 04:10).
• The brothers reminisce about sledding and risky childhood behaviors, marveling at how late the idea of wearing helmets arrived ("Isn't it crazy that we did not...we were not wearing helmets as kids?" Seth, 06:08).

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2. Parent-Child Careers & Podcasting with Family

• 10:56–15:52
  The hosts introduce the Goldwyns and discuss the unique challenges of starting a family podcast, mainly scheduling (“The most stress in your life...is scheduling," Seth, 14:58).
• Both the Meyers and Goldwyn duos are bicoastal (Seth/Josh: East/West Coast; Anna/Tony: West/East Coast respectively) and mention how podcasting is a modern way to stay connected.

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3. Father–Daughter Bonding: French Lessons, Upbringing, and Sibling Relations

• 15:53–24:42
  • Anna and Tony started taking French lessons together during COVID ("Having adult kids is...interesting...we kind of look for things to do together," Tony, 16:05).
  • Anna reflects on growing up five years apart from her sister Tess—challenging when young, but friendship blossomed with distance and adulthood.
  • Anna’s mom, Jane, is a film production designer who “produced” Anna’s wedding, sometimes focusing more on the logistics than the family moments ("I always...had to keep reminding her...it has to function as an event," Anna, 23:31).

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4. The Goldwyn Iceland Adventure: Overcoming Over-Planning

• 31:23–40:33
  • Tony confesses to once planning an overly ambitious Patagonia trip, which Jane (Anna’s mom) vetoed after hearing about the brutal flight schedule—"She said, that's insane. We're not doing that." (Tony, 34:01).
  • The family pivoted to Iceland for a winter trip, cramming in sights despite only six daylight hours per day.
  • They hired a guide, Jón, who was "a little bit annoying because he talked so much," per Anna (35:18), but introduced them to unique spots, like a hydroponic tomato farm.
  • The trip climaxed with a “360-degree fireworks” New Year's Eve in Reykjavik, featuring children setting off fireworks and a lively, chaotic public celebration ("I do feel like there are also children setting off the fireworks," Anna, 37:05).

Notable Quote:

"When you have a guide, it's great for a day...not for six days in a row." — Tony Goldwyn (34:49)

Memorable Moment:

• The Goldwyns recall feeling responsible for their guide's performance as "audience," something the Meyers Brothers empathize with as fellow performers:

"As a performer, I am desperate to make the guide feel as though they're doing a good job performing to us...I feel like I've done a shift." — Seth Meyers (39:38-40:05)

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5. Guide Mishaps & Travel Oddities

• 43:43–44:42
  • Josh shares a hilarious story about a naked Icelandic guide joining their geothermal pool—"this dude, and with his wiener out," (Josh, 44:12)—and everyone is amused that their now-wives stuck around after that.
  • Further tales emerge about naked bathers at hot springs and unexpected generational “audiences.”

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6. Goldwyn's Upbringing & Parenting Styles

• 47:11–54:40
  • Tony reflects on deliberate efforts by his father to avoid raising "Hollywood brats," opting for simple SoCal motel vacations ("very middle class").
  • He shares a formative memory: being banned from a family trip to Mexico after being caught smoking pot—a parenting consequence he actually followed through on (“I’m very impressed...I’m worried I'm not gonna actually have the wherewithal to like follow through with consequences like that," Seth, 49:31).
  • Anna and Tony discuss their own family’s approach to discipline—mom was tougher, but Anna says her dad's rare anger "was scary because he didn't get mad very often" (49:59).

Notable Quote:

"You guys had a chance at a really great thing, but you blew it." — Tony, to his daughter and her friends at a failed Sweet 16 (54:13)

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7. Vermont Traditions & Injuries: The Perils and Joys of Skiing

• 60:40–65:41
  • The Goldwyn family had a tradition of New Year's in a "corny local Vermont barn," with Anna and Tony swing dancing past midnight (61:21).
  • Anna recounts a lifetime of minor injuries ("I've broken ribs. I broke ankles, ribs, wrists...Most recently arm very badly," 63:06), and the joys and anxieties of parenting (and being) a “fearless” child ("It's both good and bad to have a kid who is fearless," Seth, 65:31).

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8. Grandparent Trips, East Coast–West Coast Contrasts, and TV Nostalgia

• 65:47–70:54
  • Anna reminisces about "dutiful" grandparent visits and the thrill of watching cable TV (and getting McDonald's) at Nana's "down the shore" New Jersey home.
  • Tony admits he adored his mother-in-law, and both fathers share jokes about the sometimes conspiratorial relationship between husbands and their wives’ mothers ("You just have to remember she's the way she is because of you and not because of me," Seth, 70:32).

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9. Anna's Rowing Career & Golden Parenting Duties

• 71:00–77:32
  • Anna rowed competitively in high school and college, and Tony describes the endless drives, lousy spectating, and supportive logistics of being "a rowing parent.”
  • Anna touches on the specifics of rowing races, mental resilience in sports ("I've been on both ends...come back and been come back on, which sucks," 74:41), and the weirdness (and social awkwardness) of such a silent, synchronized sport.

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10. Podcasts, Scheduling, and the Power of Conversation

• 77:32–79:04
  • The Goldwyns discuss launching their own podcast, Far From the Tree, celebrating the fun and intimacy of these deeper, family-based conversations.
  • Both families agree: podcasting has become a meaningful way to connect at different life stages, across coasts.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The most stress in your life...is scheduling.”
  – Seth Meyers (14:58)

• “When you have family vacation with kids, there's just this constant...having to organize.”
  – Tony Goldwyn (32:30)

• "We were drinking vodka. It is that 360 fireworks where you're just surrounded by fireworks."
  – Tony Goldwyn (36:13)

• "As a performer, I am desperate to make the guide feel as though they're doing a good job performing to us."
  – Seth Meyers (39:38)

• “You just have to remember she's the way she is because of you and not because of me. She was already the way she was when I met her.”
  – Seth Meyers (70:32)

• “It's both good and bad to have a kid who is fearless.”
  – Seth Meyers (65:31)

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Important Timestamps & Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |--------------|--------------------------------------------| | 00:00–05:49 | Meyers brothers open with family stories | | 10:56–15:52 | Introducing the Goldwyns & podcasting woes | | 15:53–24:42 | French lessons and family bonding | | 31:23–40:33 | Iceland family trip & guide fails | | 43:43–44:42 | Naked guide in Icelandic geothermal pool | | 47:11–54:40 | Goldwyn upbringing, discipline, and “consequences” | | 60:40–65:41 | Vermont barn traditions & family injuries | | 71:00–77:32 | Anna’s rowing career & parenting support | | 77:32–79:04 | Goldwyns reflect on their podcast journey | | 81:11–85:37 | Speed round: Vacation preferences, LA/New Canaan pitch, Grand Canyon reflections |

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Episode Tone & Style

The episode blends warm, anecdotal storytelling with sharp-witted humor. Both the Meyers brothers and the Goldwyns tease each other affectionately and share family inside jokes. The conversation is textured with relatable notes for any listener who’s navigated family logistics, planned group trips, or wrangled with generational differences.

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Final Takeaways

• Podcasting as Family Glue: Both pairs highlight how their podcasts are vehicles to sustain connection across distances and busy lives.
• Family Travel Lessons: The best trips leave room for independence (and plenty of unstructured time), while over-planning leads to exhaustion for all.
• Parenting Reflections: There are no “perfect” family trips—just memorable misadventures, botched plans, and loving chaos.
• Enduring Affection: At the heart of it all, these are families who love spending time together—and who are not afraid to turn even their biggest travel disasters into laughter.

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Episode-Closing Speed Round Highlights

• Ideal Vacation: Both Anna & Tony—Adventurous (81:25)
• Favorite Transportation: Anna—Boat, Tony—Bicycle (81:32)
• Family to Vacation With: Anna hesitates; Tony picks Yvon Chouinard, Patagonia founder (82:29)
• Desert Island Choice: Tony—his wife Jane; Anna—her sister Tess (83:15)
• Pitching Hometowns: Tony—LA for its ambition/cultural richness; Anna—New Canaan, CT, for its “Christmas train set” charm (84:16)
• Grand Canyon Visits: Tony—once at age 10 (“then we had to go!” 85:20), Anna—not yet

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For Fans Of: Family travel tales, honest parenting, celebrity family dynamics, and unscripted sibling chemistry.

A must-listen for anyone who believes in the magic (and chaos) of family adventure.

Transcript

[Seth Meyers]

Hey, Pasheep.

[Josh]

Hey, Sufi.

[Seth Meyers]

How are you, buddy?

[Josh]

I'm great.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm glad to hear it.

[Josh]

Yeah, we got some. We got some dog stuff going on.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, what do you got?

[Josh]

Yeah, well, we got old dog. Our old girl Debbie is 15, and she's got some, like, kidney troubles. Although we seem to have, like, a better handle on it now. She seems to be better, but we have to give her fluids every morning and evening, which is like an injection, like a subcutaneous fluid thing. So we've got like a bag of fluids, and you gotta pinch the skin on the back of her neck. And I haven't done it yet. Mackenzie's done it. She's so. You know, she's an equestrian, so she's done things like this. But I clearly need to learn how to do it because what if she's away at a horse show or what if she just goes away for a night? So that's on our. Our to do list. But Debbie does seem to be doing well, and it's.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, that's good. Yes, it was. It seemed like it was very touch and go a few weeks ago. And I know how important Deb is to the family, so. Yeah, I was glad when I went out there that I got to see her.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. So. So that, you know.

[Seth Meyers]

How long do you have to do fluids?

[Josh]

It takes about like six to eight minutes once the needle's in.

[Seth Meyers]

But then how many do you do it for weeks?

[Josh]

We don't know. Yeah, we don't know. It could be.

[Seth Meyers]

How does Debbie react during her.

[Josh]

She's not into it.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Which is a bummer. Cause you feel bad. And right now, like, Mackenzie sort of sits behind her like they're on a toboggan. And I sit in front of her and hold her front legs, and she gets these like, little shakes, like, with every exhale. And for your little girl to sort of shake with being uncomfortable for that long. And then she gets like this weird lump, like, we call it like a neck boob that she sort of gets. Cause all the fluids need, like, they go somewhere and over the course of the day, they're absorbed. And. But when she. When we take the needle out and she jumps off the couch, which she always does, like she goes down her little stairs, but she's always got this big sort of like camel hump on her neck. And it's kind of funny for.

[Seth Meyers]

For any first time listeners. Welcome to Dog Ailments. Who's.

[Josh]

What we got going on over here.

[Seth Meyers]

I know. I'm just saying, like, There was. If there was. I mean, I find it unlike likely, but it would be very funny. Someone's like, what the is, honey? Check. What did you hit play on?

[Josh]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Hey, you did say toboggan.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, yeah. Years ago you bought us a toboggan.

[Josh]

Yeah. An L.L. bean toboggan, I believe.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, we. And we. And we have a little sledding hill and we try to. We tried it. It was kind of even before, like, the kids were full sledders.

[Josh]

Yeah, it was. You were. You were becoming a family. And I was like, well, come.

[Seth Meyers]

You're a toboggan.

[Josh]

Yeah. A family should have a toboggan.

[Seth Meyers]

A New England family should have a toboggan with which to go downhills. And so it never quite. We never quite got the full toboggan experience in the way you think a toboggan is supposed to work. And then lo and behold, a couple weeks ago had like a big snow and it was like day three of kids sledding on this hill. So the snow was really tamped down. And I think that's what a toga needs. You can't put it on. On sort of fresh snow. Yeah, it needs to have kind of the. The slickness to it.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And we loaded five kids. Addie up front, Ash is the anchor cousin, friend. And they shot down this mountain and it was so rewarding because they were just laughing so hard and just remembering that feeling of like how you sit on a toboggan. You know, somebody's holding your legs, you're the legs of the person behind you, and they just had a blast.

[Josh]

Yeah. I saw a video where they're laughing so much and it's just great. Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

A full, like. Yeah, I would say like 25 non stop seconds of laughter.

[Josh]

And then you make the kids drag the toboggan back to the top of the hill.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, no, it's like 25 minutes of laughter and then just like 35 minutes of bitching.

[Josh]

25 seconds of laughter.

[Seth Meyers]

25 seconds of laughter.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a. It's a unique sled. It's a great sled. It's a classic for a reason. I've also thought. And this year I bought them one of those, you know, inflatable tubes which are better for, like, jumps.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And I certainly saw sort of from the videos that there's. You guys have built a nice jump, but it also causes a lot of those wrecks. Like, you can. Yeah, you can hit if you are launched into the air and you come down on a tube, you have another bounce coming. Unless you're holding on. And I. I saw one of your kids just get. Yeah. Smacked onto the ground. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean, Ash is full caution and Axel is. Is full, you know.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Just throw caution to the wind.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

He doesn't want your caution. Yeah, we did. I don't know if I told you that Ash had a fall on the ski mountain. Oh, yeah. When I wasn't there. It was on his, like, school trip and he told us on the phone that he, like, went off the side of a cliff. And we're like, all right, you know what I mean? Because, like, he's telling us. So you're like, no, you didn't. And then like, nine parents are like, he went off the side of a club. Oh, no. And like, one dad was like, I saw it from. I think it was that thing where, like, you're skiing and it was a little icy and he needed to turn and he. He was leaning too far back, almost like his butt got on the back of his skis. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then he just, like, couldn't. He was incapable of stopping.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

So he went over, like a ledge. But a dad said he had watched it from the lift and he was like, he didn't know it was Ash.

[Josh]

He was like.

[Seth Meyers]

I was like, oh, no. Yeah, Ash was totally fine. But isn't it crazy that we did not. We were not wearing helmets as kids. Oh, my gosh.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean, it is the craziest thing, how late developing it was that someone's like, hey, why aren't you guys wearing helmets?

[Josh]

The. I was skiing for my birthday and was last day. I'm walking back to my car, which is parked very close to a lift, and you just have to walk along the road a little bit. And I was walking up the road, the sort of. The main lodge was. Was uphill from where I was parked. And it's a little bit icy on the road, so I've got, you know, my ski boots on and I got my skis over my shoulder and my poles and I'm walking and it's like end of the day and there was a car driving down towards me. And I step on the ice and I slip and like, totally look like a marionette. And I catch myself and these two 20 somethings in this car who were driving past me, both of their mouths were agape watching me, just sort of like, totally about to biff it. And when I caught Myself and didn't fall. They both celebrated so much.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Josh]

They were like, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I was like, yeah.

[Josh]

But I told mackenzie about it. And do you know that the life is good sort of art? There's like, they have T shirt shops everywhere. It's like a stick figure.

[Seth Meyers]

I hate it.

[Josh]

Like. Yeah, no, I was gonna say, no disrespect to the artist, but it's hard to say that after you say how much you hate.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, I think it's. You're kind of in a jam there.

[Josh]

Yeah, I'm in a jam there, but I hate it. And Mackenzie always says that the life is good guy, that I remind her of that guy, which is sort of a strange self own. And when I told her about almost falling with the skis, she's like, oh, my God, you must have been so. Life is good in that moment. But I love that I. It was a moment of celebration for those guys to just. It was. It was either it was going to be awful. It was going to be one of those, like, oh, moments that your dad friend saw when Ash went on.

[Seth Meyers]

If I'm looking at the right life is good guy, I get why she says that kind of reminds you.

[Josh]

I'm sure it's gotta be. No.

[Seth Meyers]

So you do think. Do you think maybe you're like, that guy's like, I don't know, jacking your vibe?

[Josh]

I don't know. I don't know. I mean, maybe. Yeah. I don't know. He could be jacking my vibe.

[Seth Meyers]

It's like a classic Austin Powers, like, he stole your mojo.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Get in my belly. Yeah.

[Josh]

So.

[Seth Meyers]

Bastard got good in my belly.

[Josh]

Oh, I was. I don't remember that so much. I just remember Ludacris saying that line.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, yeah. When does Ludicrous say get in my belly?

[Josh]

When he's got that Austin Power song.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, well, there you go.

[Josh]

Yeah, he's quote. He's quoting it, but I.

[Seth Meyers]

He's quoting Fat Bastard.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I will say I feel like I watched. I think it's the second whatever one. Whichever Austin Powers Fat Bastards in. I think it's Austin Powers too. At the end, he goes on a long speech, like, where he's like, very sincere. And it's maybe one of the hardest I've ever laughed in a movie theater.

[Josh]

Yeah, those are movies. I will say those movies I've only seen once. And, yeah, they are due for another watch. Those are the kind of things that, you know, one of my favorite things to do in Los Angeles in the summer is there's movies at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery this organization called CSPIA puts on, and I feel like seeing one of the Austin Powers there would be. That's one of my desires for this next summer. Sometimes they take requests and I'll put that out.

[Seth Meyers]

There's. There's a bummer thing where, like, you're, like, trying to figure out the best time to show your kids a movie, and then, like, somebody else does it. Like, they're like, over at a friend's house and like, they. It was too early. Like, Ash. Somebody showed Ash and he's like. I mean, that whole movie is like, horny. Everything's horny. And I'm like, he's. He's too early for to enjoy that.

[Josh]

Yeah, I like that he's mad at horny.

[Seth Meyers]

He's just like, get your hormones in order. And I'm like, just you way, buddy.

[Josh]

Yeah. They're coming. They're coming.

[Seth Meyers]

Powers to shame.

[Josh]

Let's hope not.

[Seth Meyers]

Let's hope not. Hey, this is wonderful. We have a couple of. Of family members who have a podcast of their own.

[Josh]

Yeah. Tony Goldwyn and Anna Muskie Goldwyn.

[Seth Meyers]

They're a father daughter. They have a new podcast that interviews people who are in the same profession as their parents.

[Josh]

Far from the tree.

[Seth Meyers]

Far from the tree. And I just want to use this opportunity, Posh to say, did you ever. Because I think the answer is no. And I say this as someone who has a great deal of respect for dad. Isn't it fascinating that at no point were either of us, like, I want to do what that guy does?

[Josh]

Yeah. No, I would have been. I think both of us would have been much more likely to be teachers like mom than we would have been to work sort of in the financial.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean, the main reason I never wanted to do a dad does is I still don't understand what it is.

[Josh]

I think also, like, neither of us had the. The math.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh]

At some level, you would need to take a bunch of math classes.

[Seth Meyers]

I also think, you know, he's like, but I think dad's in business and it's really good to, like, you have to, like, not take no for an answer. And I feel like you and I are excellent at taking no for an answer. Yeah. We're like, okay. Yeah, okay. I sometimes, like, I'm sometimes so good at taking no for an answer. When people say yes, I'm like, well, I think I know I will be on my way.

[Josh]

So.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. Hey, by the way, I'm going to just shout it out because what we Talk about, like, you know, dads are tired.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Delta Dogs. Oh, yeah. You know, we should. We should probably remind people more. It's a great organization that our dad has involved himself with post retirement. It matches rescue dogs with vets who are suffering from ptsd. And I certainly didn't know anything about it until dad got involved. And they're doing great work.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

So It's a. It's Operation Deltadog.org.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And if you donate, there's a great chance that our dad will give you a call.

[Josh]

Be like, hey, could you do a little more.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Could you do a little more this.

[Seth Meyers]

Year or not even to talk about Operation Delta Dog, Just to, like chit chat.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Because he down for that. Yeah. He down to chit chat.

[Josh]

Yeah. He loves chit chatting. And if you. If you have a kind of a puzzle that he hasn't encountered, then he.

[Seth Meyers]

Wants to know about a new puzzle.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

He's like. And. And. And just. I'm starting a. A charity called Operation Chit Chat, where I'm trying to match people that aren't to our dad. For the purposes of chit chat, we're trying to find it, like, all. All you have to be is not our mom. And then we will match you with our dad. And for the purposes of chit chat. So please, operationchit chat.org.

[Tony Goldwyn]

All you need.

[Seth Meyers]

Is cell service and a minimum of 20, 25 minutes. All right, I think we've burned Yeri enough. Please enjoy our next guest, Tony and Anna.

[Josh]

Family trips with the Miles brothers.

[Seth Meyers]

Family chips with the Myest brothers we go.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Hi.

[Seth Meyers]

Hello. Here we go to you both.

[Josh]

It's a real Sadie Hawkins situation.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

This is very. By the way, I'm so excited to talk to you guys as you're about to embark on a family podcast together, because we have so much to tell you.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah, I mean, give us the story.

[Seth Meyers]

Basically, the most stress in your life that you're going to have moving forward in your relationship is scheduling.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I feel like that's already happening.

[Josh]

Yeah. One of you will get busy and the other one will just see also.

[Seth Meyers]

The amount that you're like, come on, one hour a week. How hard could it be? You cannot believe how hard it is to find one hour a week that you're both available.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Oh, yeah, I know. It's true. Not to mention two other people who were trying to schedule.

[Seth Meyers]

Right, right, of course. Well, that's the thing, too. Right. You made the problem where you need to have two guests at once.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yes. But you guys are still Here. So that gives us.

[Seth Meyers]

We're still here. And we do love it. I don't know, like, how often do you guys. Cause Josh is west coast and I'm east coast. So outside of the podcast, we really don't see each other that often. But you guys are probably. Do you see each other with regularity?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I'm west coast and my dad's.

[Tony Goldwyn]

She's west coast and I'm east coast.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. Okay, great. So I do think it's like a very modern way to stay connected with loved ones is to host a podcast with them.

[Tony Goldwyn]

That's right.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

It's kind of true. I feel like we do this and we take French lessons together, and that's true.

[Seth Meyers]

You take French lessons together?

[Tony Goldwyn]

We do.

[Seth Meyers]

When did that start?

[Tony Goldwyn]

During COVID During COVID Yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

I mean, we sort of, you know, partly because she's. I don't know. Having adult kids is. Is an interesting thing because we stay very bonded. But I realized, especially because everyone's every, you know, everywhere else in their life, that we kind of look for things to do together so that every week at least, we do. We're doing something like with Anna's sister Tess, we, like, do yoga once a week, you know, sometimes online, sometimes together. We, you know, so Nana and I do French and now we have a podcast.

[Seth Meyers]

So if you started in Covid, how good is your French right now?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I feel like mine is okay. I spoke French. I've spoken French for longer than my dad, so I feel like mine's pretty good.

[Seth Meyers]

Right. Okay, gotcha.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

But we.

[Tony Goldwyn]

We survived together.

[Seth Meyers]

Have you. Have you. Have you taken it on the road? Have you gone to a French speaking nation since you started this?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I just went on my honeymoon to.

[Seth Meyers]

Congratulations.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Thank you. And so I was. I was able to impress my husband, which, like, felt really good.

[Josh]

Yeah. Were you able to impress French people?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Honestly? I was. Except obviously in Paris, where they're never impressed about anything.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

But we did a bike trip in the south of France and everyone there who's friendly was like, oh, you speak French so well. And it made me feel so good.

[Seth Meyers]

So that's great.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Mission accomplished. Hadn't even worth it.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah. I found out we were in Paris a couple of years ago or last year or something, and in Paris they just speak English back at you.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

So you start to practice your French and they, you know, but when you ask them, please, can I work on it? Then they're pretty. Pretty cool about it.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

And you thank them.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, it is that way. We used to live in Amsterdam and Dutch people are the same way, even when you tried. And I think they were basically saying, like, we don't want to hear it spoken badly.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Dutch seems really hard, too.

[Josh]

Yeah. I mean, my Dutch is better than Seth's Dutch, but it feels. It almost feels like you're speaking English just in a different way. A lot of the words sort of make sense in a way that I feel like the more romantic languages don't.

[Seth Meyers]

But I used to always say, which nobody liked over there. I was like, oh, it's like stupid English.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

It feels like it wouldn't go over well.

[Josh]

So if you're doing. If you're taking French classes together, are you. You're just on zoom. It's the two of you and a.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Teacher and a French woman.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Who also, by the way, teaches French to many members of our family, which is also a funny thing. So she knows all of our family gossip.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah, she does. Yeah. I started. My brother John and his daughter Emily, and Emily, like, started wanting to learn French at 10 years old and got absolutely fluent. And then they decided to do it together as a. You know, as a. Similar to us, really. And then they got really into it, and my brother said, you got to meet this woman. And I said, wow, that sounds like something Anna and I would like to do. So.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And then my sister, and. Yeah, she's. Valerie Dobress is becoming a member of our family.

[Seth Meyers]

I want to believe that her name is different. She changed it to that because she knew she would get so many more clients. It was like Pamela Jones. She's like, I'm not going to do any work. So you guys. You grew up in la, correct, Anna?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

No, I grew up in Connecticut.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh. So have you managed to be east coast this whole time, Tony?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

So I. Or he. My dad has. Yeah, I left.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. I grew up.

[Tony Goldwyn]

I grew up in la and then I came East. I just always wanted to live in New York, so. And wanted to be an actor, you know, this was where I wanted to figure out if I could make that happen. And then. Yeah. Jane, my wife, who also works in our business, who's a production designer, we both wanted to raise our kids kind of away from Hollywood and loved the East Coast. She's from the east coast, but. But we couldn't keep Anna away from la.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, it happens. I like, by the way, that because I met your brother first and he lives in la, I just assumed you lived in la. Despite the fact that my brother lives in LA and I live, like. I immediately couldn't. I literally couldn't Process that.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

So you. You had a Connecticut upbringing, and what's the gap between you and your sister Tess?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

We're five years, so it was that thing where I feel like we hated each other for a really long time.

[Seth Meyers]

It's hard. Five is hard.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

What.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

How far apart are you guys?

[Josh]

Two.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Okay. That feels like you're just friends all the time.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Shared friend groups.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Tess and I really. I mean, my dad maybe can speak to this more objectively, but I always felt like I didn't want her to be around. She was always mad at me for something. And then I think it was like, when I went to college, you know, once there was. Once there was 3,000 miles between us. We were like, oh, we can be friends now.

[Seth Meyers]

So, yeah, I guess at 5, you might. I mean, you probably aren't processing it, but as a kid, you might think, like, I might be an only child. I think we're almost out of the woods here, probably.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Did I act like that, dad?

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah. No. You were super excited about the idea of a little sister until she arrived.

[Seth Meyers]

Total buyer's remorse.

[Tony Goldwyn]

I remember bringing you into the hospital room to see, and you were like, wait a minute. How long is she gonna stick around? Yeah. You know, it's funny, as a parent, it caused me great. Almost grief. I had this. My brother John and I are very close, but also went through. We're two years apart, like you guys, but went through periods when we were younger where we kind of, you know, had growing pains. But I always had this fantasy about my kids would be great friends. So as they were heading approaching adulthood, and they just were totally different people, it was. Made me so sad, and I just had to go, well, they just have to be who they are. And it's not my. Not my job. But what's happened now, I think as adults, you guys have become good friends. And it's nice. It's beautiful to see.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Still very different, though. But different.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Totally different.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

In a good way.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. Yeah, we're very different, but we present identical. You guys do very strange. We, like, talk exactly the same and. But, like, you know. But the weird thing is we have so many friends that we overlap with, like, our closest friends or each other's close friends. And so, like, I think it's very funny to them when people are like, God, they're so much alike.

[Josh]

They're like, no.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Oh, that's interesting. Tess and I don't. We don't share many friends. I guess because of our ages. We have, like, a group of friends that we kind of grew up with who are siblings, but we like, we're friends with the siblings. Right. But I feel like we've not had many friends where we're mutually friends with them.

[Seth Meyers]

She was invited to your wedding though, right?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

She was, yes, she was my maid of honor. She gave me Amazing how much she loved me. It was.

[Seth Meyers]

Where did you get. Where did you get married?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

We got married in Santa Barbara.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, fantastic. Was that stressful, Tony, for you as a father?

[Tony Goldwyn]

No, it was great. You know, planning weddings. There's some stress involved. But as I mentioned, Jane, my wife Anna's mom, is a film production designer.

[Seth Meyers]

Right.

[Tony Goldwyn]

So she's produced many huge movie weddings. And I said to Anna, I was like, if you give mom two weeks and just deal with the stress, it'll be all done and you'll be four months out from your wedding and everything's done.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Four months? It was like eight months.

[Tony Goldwyn]

It was like eight months. Jane just had it all handled. So it was so. It was, as weddings go, it was quite stress free once we were approaching it. And actually the wedding was so fun. It was beautiful. We had a great time.

[Seth Meyers]

It's so funny to think if you have production designed a wedding, an actual wedding is so much nicer because it's like you're not like about to go into overtime. It's not like we need to make the day.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

So the other part is that then I always. It was so funny. Cause I mean, our wedding was incredible and it looked beautiful and I'm so grateful for everything that my mom did. But I did have to keep reminding her, like, yes. But then once the set is there, like, it has to function as an event. Like there's not an ad being like, okay, now background go. You know, it's like we do have to make sure that people can get to the bathrooms and like that all that has to flow. And so it was kind of a funny thing of like, it is like doing a movie, but then it's actually real life.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Well, and then one of the stresses, I would say one of the only stressful things that I sensed from you was in the day or two leading up to the wedding, Anna kept kind of craving, like, to have her family all around her.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Oh, yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

But Jane's happy place really is to be with her crew on a set. So she's like, yeah, yeah, we're gonna do that, but I'm gonna go meet the. Meet them at 8 o'.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Clock.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And she was just like, can you.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Please come back to help me put on My dress.

[Tony Goldwyn]

She wouldn't help you put on your dress. I was like, I'll be there to help you do your hair and your dress.

[Seth Meyers]

That's great.

[Tony Goldwyn]

She showed it. But it was fun to see her.

[Seth Meyers]

Like, you know, she's like, I don't be mad. I do want to have a walkie talkie over this. Yes.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Honestly, she would have loved. Loved it.

[Josh]

I mean, walkie talkie is. It's an excellent tool. It's the right tool for the job a lot of times.

[Tony Goldwyn]

This is cool, you know?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

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[Josh]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Josh]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Josh]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Josh]

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[Josh]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Seth Meyers]

Here we go. So you when you had your two daughters, Tony, and you guys were both in the business, did you sort of have. Do you feel like you had like this sort of stable life where you could take normal vacations with your kid, or were you sort of like trying to figure it out in the middle of like this crazy business with all its highs and lows?

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah. Well, with us, what it really was was we had a limited amount of time when we knew we would all have time for a vacation.

[Seth Meyers]

Ye.

[Tony Goldwyn]

We were lucky enough to get like a summer home, you know, in a coastal place, a place where we could all kind of like where the kids could spend their summers, which felt like our vacations outside of New York City. So that was great. But in terms of vacations, really the week between Christmas and New Year's, which is singularly the worst time to travel. So bad in the human existence. But every year that was the only time we did it. So we would plan while they were young, you know, we'd plan our family vacations. And it took us a lot of years to discover that the best solution to family vacation is to go somewhere with no plan and let everyone do whatever the hell they want to do.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah, the best vacation we ever took was when we just all basically did our own thing the whole time.

[Josh]

And then we come and eat dinner together.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

We went to Hawaii.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Kauai.

[Josh]

Kauai.

[Tony Goldwyn]

We rented a house. And they were grown up and stuff, but we had such a good time. Cause there was no prayer. Cause when you have family vision with kids, there's just this constant. I mean, we laugh about it, it makes for good family comedy, but there's just, you know, having to organize. I mean, there was the trip we took also when they were college age, I guess, to Iceland, where I had decided we needed to take like a proper real trip to do something. Because when they were young, we would maybe just drive to New Hampshire or Vermont or, you know, like someplace simple. And I was like, no, we're going to do a proper thing. And so I planned a trip. I wanted to go to Argentina and to Patagonia. And so I planned this whole trip to go to Buenos Aires and Patagonia and this lodge and go hiking for four days and come back to Santiago, Chile, and fly back. I had it all worked out. It was all planned. And I. And I just said, jane, let me handle it. And then I called Jane because I was working in LA and she was working here, and. And she said, what did you plan? And I tell her, and she said, tony, how far away is this? Like, how long are the flights? I'm like, whoa, it's not that much. I mean, you know, the first flight is like, I think 21 hours to get to Buenos Aires, and then it's five hours to Patagonia. And then, you know, another three hours to. And then a 26 hour flight. I don't know when it was back. She said, and how much time do we have for the trip? I said, we have five, I think maybe six days. She said, that's insane. We're not doing that. So she said, why don't we go to Iceland, which is five hours from New York. It's exotic. So I canceled my elaborately planned trip and we went to Iceland, which was awesome.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Except in the wintertime you have like six hours of daylight.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

We crammed and went.

[Tony Goldwyn]

So we decided we would have a guide to help us. So we made sure we saw what we needed to see. And this was the worst idea. A guide was recommended, and this was his. He was very nice. Yon was very nice and very knowledgeable. But he would show up at 10 in the morning and he would have every second programmed. And he was in your face talking the entire time. And sweet Yon, by the end of the six days, we wanted to kill him.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh yeah, I liked him. I love a guide. I don't love a guide for multiple days. It's too much pressure.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

It's hard, though, in Iceland because everything is so. Like where you want to go is so far away. And I feel like he was a little bit annoying because he talked so much. But he also took us to like these weird places. Like we went to a tomato farm, like a greenhouse tomato farm where they did all that. What's it called when they grow like vertically on the. Like in the little planters. Yeah. Hydro, whatever it's called. And it was this like insane thing in the middle of nowhere in Iceland. And we went to this like greenhouse tomato farm and ate like tomato ice cream. I don't know, it was weird stuff like that that we would have never done on our own.

[Tony Goldwyn]

The coolest thing about that trip, I thought was we had some mutual friends of ours who work in the theater, had worked with this amazing theater company in Reykjavik, and they said, oh, please come and hang out with us. And this couple who owns this amazing theater invited us to their New Year's Eve party and in Reykjavik. Have you ever spent New Year's in Reykjavik or heard about.

[Josh]

We have together.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Is it crazy? The fireworks?

[Seth Meyers]

It's the best.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Insane.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

They buy like boxes of rockets.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And at 11pm they start going off all over and it continues for like four, three or four hours. So that was a trip. And we were drinking vodka.

[Seth Meyers]

It is that 360worksworks where you're just surrounded by fireworks.

[Tony Goldwyn]

But didn't you think people are gonna die?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Small children are gonna be burned alive.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Josh]

There's a church in the center of town that's on top of a hill. And we were at that church. And you're right, like, people would have boxes that essentially you would light one fuse and then that would sort of go through a progression that would light things off. But you'd be standing like on the sidewalk and someone would light one of these boxes and push it towards you and everyone would sort of scatter. And then that box would go off for, I don't know, six, seven minutes. And then there'd be more going off. Also when we were there, it was snowing and raining at the same time, and it felt like the gods were fighting the humans. But in a joyous sort of display of.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I do feel like there are also children setting off the fireworks. I remember at the party there was like a 10 year old that just like ran out onto the lawn with what looked like a nuclear weapon and like put it by the water and then just set it off. And I was like, okay, this is not. Well, this is not la. I guess this is maybe other parts.

[Seth Meyers]

It is so funny because, like, so much of Iceland is like, oh my God. This is like. There's everything here I've never seen before. Like, every rock formation is unique to this place. And then like that night I'm like, also, it's a little bit like Florida. Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

You know what I mean?

[Seth Meyers]

Did you. It is funny. Like, did Yoan. I'm gonna say his name wrong, but did you only have to deal with him during like the five daylight hours or was he like, also with you? Cause that at least.

[Tony Goldwyn]

No, no, no, no, no. We made sure that. No, he would pick us up, he'd be waiting. He wasn't eating dinner with us because it didn't get light until 10am and it was like gray light. Right. And so he'd be waiting outside in the car and then we'd pile in and then we'd be with him until what time? Like end of 4 or 5 o', clock. Because then it was dark.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I feel like 3 o'.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Clock. 3 o'.

[Seth Meyers]

Clock.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

And then we would eat dinner at like 5.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And we packed a lot in. We saw amazing things, but it was like. I mean, we went. Did all the things you brought, you know, Snowmobiling on glaciers and hiking on glaciers and seeing waterfalls and volcanoes.

[Seth Meyers]

Did you ride on those stupid horses?

[Tony Goldwyn]

That rode on the stupid horses.

[Josh]

Hey, hey, hey, Josh.

[Seth Meyers]

Josh really loved the stupid horses, but, no, no, no.

[Josh]

We. We went on maybe the worst ever.

[Seth Meyers]

Like, we had a bad horse guy.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

The worst horse.

[Josh]

No, we were just on a street, like.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, we thought we were gonna go.

[Josh]

We got back and forth on a street. Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Oh, we went on. Oh, you did? Like, when.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Like on pavement.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, yeah. We, like, went to this beautiful barn, and we got on these horses and we thought we'd, like, go up into the hills and whatnot. And we just literally, like, went down the block and back on these.

[Josh]

And my wife is an equestrian. My wife's a, like, professional equestrian. And they had given, like, this. This poor woman in the group, like, a terrible horse. And my wife was like, get off. Like, switch with me. I'll deal with this horse, because she can. And so not only, like, she was just muscling this horse around the whole time and trying to.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

And then the rest of us were just, like, just walking. You never even.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Just down the block.

[Seth Meyers]

It was a real. It was a real bad.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Thank God we had yon.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And they're little too. They're like ponies. So. Yeah, we actually went to a farm. It was pretty. We were at a farm, and it was beautiful kind of vista. And went on a sort of a trail ride. So that was.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I will say I had the best fish and chips of my life in Reykjavik.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

The food was amazing.

[Seth Meyers]

Really good.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Your food was amazing.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, I enjoyed it a great deal. We also. Do you feel. I have a quick question to everybody here. Do you feel. With guides, I sometimes feel like, as a performer, I am desperate to make the guide feel as though they're doing a good job performing to us. And so I pretend to be more. We're paying them to show us a country. And at the end, I'm like. I feel like I've done a shift.

[Tony Goldwyn]

100%.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

My dad. 100%.

[Tony Goldwyn]

100% of my wife is the opposite. It's like, stop talking. Okay, we got it right.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

You and Tess. Because my sister is also an actor, and I do feel like you and Tess are both, like. It's like you have so much empathy for this person. Trying to, like, put on a show basically, that your level of interest, like, skyrockets for every word. Like, you're hanging on their every word. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I really think if Alexi, my wife, had, like, a note for me on vacations it would be have less empathy. Like this is our vacation, stop it. But it is that like performers anxiety. Like if I feel like somebody's bombing, even as a tour guide I'm like just like so there for them in a way that is not makes their day.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I'm sure.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, we had a great. I've talked about this. But my father in law is just one of those people who knows everything about everything and like just will can't. My joke about him is he knows everything and he can't make any of it interesting to me. And then it has. My two boys are just fascinated by him. Cause like, you know, like they go out with him and he like just points out everything and I'm like, oh my God, it's finally happened. Like they're the audience he's been waiting for and you know, they're hanging on every word and I can like extract myself from the interaction and oh, that.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Just makes me want to have grandkids so bad.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Relax.

[Seth Meyers]

So I realize as a dad where you're like, I'm like, oh right. People being interested in you must skip a generation.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

That's probably true.

[Tony Goldwyn]

You know, speaking of guides, I have to say when you get a really good guide who is chill, it's kind of an amazing like Anna and I had another kind of family trip. We took a trip. Anna and I like to surf. She's a far superior surfer to me and I'm an inferior surfer, but we like doing it together. And we decided to take a surf trip to Indonesia. And we went to the first stop was Bali. And so I kind of arranged someone to surf coach this kid to help us because we didn't know where to go. And this, he was like 25 years old, right?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I think he was like 21. He was.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And he was literally just gonna supposed to give us like, you know, meet us in the mornings for an hour or two to surf with us and surf lessons. And he was this coolest kid. And he was this Balian kid, a Balinese kid, excuse me. And he goes, you know, what are you guys doing in the afternoon? You know, if you want I can show you around. I mean I grew up here, I know everything. And if you want me to, I can show you around. And we were like, yeah, you know, we'd love that. And he almost like said would have done it for free, but we insisted on paying him. And he ended up taking us every day for a few days to like did we met his family. He took us all to the Island. He took us. He wanted to take us to this Balinese temple. And we said, great. He said, you know, no one's allowed in this beautiful, ancient temple unless you're a worshiper. So I'm gonna bring, you know, I have to bring some stuff for you to wear. And we got. We get there at this temple, and he has the full outfits. I had to wear a skirt and a headdress. And we went in and, like, went into these baths and prayed in these baths. Remember, Anna?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

He took us to meet this. He went to, like, an. Or was it an orphanage or. It was like a school. And we ate lunch with these kids, like, up in this mountain village, and we, like, danced with them. It was amazing. His name was Koyo, and it was. I think it was, like, Bali Adventures was his thing. It was, like, a very simple name, but, wow. People should look him up. He was amazing.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah, he was great.

[Josh]

One guide that we had in Iceland took us to this sort of river that had a sort of geothermal spot where it was, you know, snowy and freezing, but there was a place you could get in. And then our guide just got full naked and we got to totally just hang out with him. Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

I hope there weren't children.

[Josh]

There weren't children. It was just Seth, me, and then our two girlfriends, now wives at the time, and. And this dude. And with his wiener out, so.

[Seth Meyers]

And I've always felt good that they both. Both of our future wives saw that and then. Still stuck with us.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

They saw what else was out there.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

You made them feel too good about his performance.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. It was also my memory of the. When he got dressed is that he literally did everything and then pants last.

[Josh]

I think that's right.

[Seth Meyers]

There was no. He was not. There was no. Yeah, not shame. But he was not shy at all.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I do feel like people in Iceland are very open. I mean, Jon was very open about his life with us, and he was.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah, well. And also we experienced that exact same thing. Anna and I and her husband Billy and I went skiing a couple of years ago up in Mammoth. And there are these hot springs in Mammoth, California. And Ann and I were going to take her dogs and go swimming in the hot springs. And so we go. And there are lots of people in this stream, and there are these pools. And so the pool below the one we were sitting in was a collection of Chinese women of all ages, from, like, young to very old. And they were completely covered from head to toe. You could not see barely any skin. And they were in the Pool and talking, talking, talking. And Ann and I are in the pool upstream of them with her, you know, with her dogs and hanging out. And this man, how old was he? He must have been 75 years old.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And he was closing on 80. This man comes to the pool just above us and does the same thing. Takes off all of his clothes and was sort of walking around, I would say, displaying like, he was very proud of himself and his level of fitness and all that. And then he gets in the. And he's washing himself. It was quite. It was quite athletic what he was doing. So it's like, we're like, okay, well, this might live my daughter. And then these women were like looking at him and I can't. Did they react in it or they.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

No, but then there was a group that came with children. I was like, what is the guy gonna do? Because there was a family that arrived with a bunch of kids. And it was not immediate, but I think once the kids kind of like unpacked, when we're getting in the pool, he did get dressed, but it was not like a, oh, my God, I better get dressed now there's children. But you know what? Honestly, power to those people.

[Seth Meyers]

I had the famous. One of mine was.

[Josh]

I was in a pool with my.

[Seth Meyers]

Middle son axel, and these three, like I would say somewhere between 60 and 70 year old French women got into the pool. We were on vacation and they were like all wearing like so much jewelry and like big sunglasses. And they walked into the pool and my son very loudly went, look, Dada, three witches. Just the best.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I thought you were gonna say they took their tops off because they. Your son got a.

[Seth Meyers]

They would have been. Yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Preview.

[Josh]

Yeah, he's got a thing for witches.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, he loves witches.

[Josh]

He's always had this thing for witches. Yeah. Now, Tony, you grew up, you know, you guys are sort of from a famous film family. And it seems like every generation you protect your kids from sort of Hollywood, and then it doesn't take at all and you just sort of fall into a Hollywood lifestyle. But what were your vacations growing up? Did you guys. Your parents split when you were pretty young?

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah, yeah. Our vacations were honestly, pretty simple. My dad had a. A paranoia of raising Hollywood brats and my mom too. So he, he was kind of obsessed with normalcy. And he had grown up, you know, his father, Sam Goldwyn Sr. Was, you know, like in the red hot center of the golden age of Hollywood. And my dad was kind of grew up in the middle of all that and he did not want his kids to have that experience, I think. So we would like. What we would do for vacation is he loved, you know, grew up in la. He loved La Jolla, you know, just north of San Diego, this beautiful beach place. And we would go to a motel. I mean, it was called the La Jolla Inn. And it was a real low key motel. And we'd spend the week in the motel and by the pool and then going to the beach in stuff. It was a very kind of middle class kind of thing. It wasn't fancy and we just loved it, you know. So that was the routine vacation. I honestly, we never took fancy trips. I remember the one fancy trip that was gonna happen, I got banned from. I was. I think. I think I was maybe I was like 14 or 15 and I got caught smoking pot. And they had. My dad had planned for spring break a trip to Cabo San Lucas to go fishing. And at that time, Cabo was like a very little sleepy village. Nothing like it is now. And I was grounded. I couldn't leave. I was in trouble. So my brother John and my dad, my stepmother, they all had this amazing fishing trip. And I stayed home. But I remember thinking, oh my God, to go to Mexico. That sounded so exotic. So, yeah, but those were our kind of standard routine.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm very impressed because I'm worried I'm not gonna actually have the wherewithal to like follow through with consequences like that. Like to actually say to a kid like, you are banned from a trip. Cause that is like you as a parent are like costing yourself something as well. Right. Like it's a sacrifice. Were you the kind of parent. Were you and your wife the kind of parents that could actually like, have consequences for your children? And Anna, if you want to answer, I turn it over to you too.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I feel like my dad not so good with consequences. Although I do feel like whenever my dad would get mad, it was scary because he didn't get mad very often. My mom is much tougher. And I also feel like isn't as, like. I don't know. I think that she would always kind of make you realize that like you were paying for what you did. And it. She was like. She would make you feel bad for what you did and that was kind of the consequence. I don't think that. I don't know. Tess and I didn't do a lot of bad stuff. I did.

[Tony Goldwyn]

I got in a lot. You guys were pretty. Well, I got in a lot of trouble. Oh my God.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I got in a lot of Trouble once when I was in high school. But again, like, I got, you know, my mom had to pick me from a party where the police came kind of a thing. And, like, just seeing my mom's face walking into that house was, like, consequence enough, you know, I, like, never did anything bad again.

[Tony Goldwyn]

The landmark thing also, she would call me, like, if I was away working, rather than deal with her mother, you would have a bad thing and call me and go. And somehow you thought that that would, I don't know, bypass the call.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I just knew there was a medium step maybe to be had. I don't know. We never did anything that was like, you can't come along with this. And I also feel like there was sometimes where I would be like, well, I don't. I don't want to come. But then the moment the car starts going, you're like, wait, I do want to go on the. Go to this. On this walk or whatever. But I don't know. Is there any time you remember that, like, Tess or I did something.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Not with you, with Tess. The one parental story like that with. With Anna's little sister was her sweet 16. When she turned 16, she had planned. Told me what she wanted to do was go to a concert in New York City. And we lived in Connecticut, like an hour outside of the city. So I got tickets to Terminal 5. I forgot who it was, but it was some group of artists playing, and I was in LA finishing a job, and I flew home to be there in time to take them to the thing. And I land at jfk, race home to Connecticut. Literally got out of the car, going to the house, and these five girls, like, 14 and 15 years old, dressed like they were, you know, I mean, so sexual. I was like, whoa. And they're like, hi, Mr. Goldwyn. And I'm like, okay. And they didn't say anything. Full on makeup and short skirts and tight blouses. And they get in the car and the plan was for me to drive them in, get them into the concert, and another dad was gonna pick them up and take them on the train home. And they were gonna have like a sleepover or something. And so we get in the car and we go, and they're all having fun in the backseat. And we arrive at Terminal 5 and I park the car and I say, okay, you guys wait here. I'm going to go and get the tickets. And they're waiting by security. There was a line for security and an enormous female security guard checking people's bags. And I go and get the Tickets that I had arranged at the box office. And I go and get the tickets, and I turn around and this big security guard comes over and she says to me, are you their father? Because I am not letting. Those girls can't come in into this, you know, into the concert. I was like, oh, what happened? And I walk over to them, and they're crying. I see three of the girls have already gone, you know, gotten past this woman. And Tess and her friend were not. It turned out they had, like, Poland Spring water bottles with vodka in them. Oh, my God. And they'd been, of course, drinking the entire time in the car, which I was oblivious to. And the security guard had made them throw out their water bottles as they came in. And all the other girls did that, except Tess and her friend decided to. They didn't want to waste the vodka, so they chug it in front of the security guard, and the security guard says, what is in your water bottle? Tess's friend throws it away and says, it's just water. And Tess goes, it's vodka, and hands it to. So I'm there going, oh, sh. What do I do now? Like, this is a tough parenting moment. Like, they're drinking, and I was like, I gotta. I suddenly had a flash to myself at 15 years old, getting away with everything. And I was a really. I was a wild kid, and I did not want my dose. So I thought, okay, I have to be a hard ass here. And I said, wow, you guys really blew it. And I made them all come back. And I said, it wasn't just Tess. Obviously, you were all doing this. And they all gathered, they're crying, and I said, you guys had a chance at a really great thing, but you blew it. Like, what? And I also knew that if I let them go in and one of the other parents found out that they were drinking, and I didn't do anything about it, that could be bad.

[Seth Meyers]

So it does help, too. Peer pressure, even as an adult.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah. Potential jail time. So anyway, I made them all get back in the car, sold the tickets to some guy, and drove back in silence. And it was. It was. I feel like that was my hardest parenting moment. That's what really hard for me to be a hard ass.

[Seth Meyers]

And that's a long drive home.

[Tony Goldwyn]

It was a long drive home. And I made all the girls call their parents and tell them what was going on, and they had to go home. And. Yeah, so. And the next morning, Tess and I went for a run. And she said, you know, Dad, I think I'm Just the kind of kid who gets caught. And I secretly said to myself, yes, that was the answer. So, yeah. Anyway, I still kind of regret it.

[Josh]

But, yeah, I mean, her biggest mistake was saying vodka.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah, yeah. They want you to tell that. They say, like, tell the truth.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I, like, ultimately, you're like, honey, you caught yourself.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Like, do you. Looking back, were you like, God, all those kids were laughing at my jokes on the drive down. And then you were like, oh, they were all inebriated. You're like, driving. You're like, hey, I'm doing pretty good tonight. Doing pretty good.

[Josh]

Oh, my God. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors.

[Seth Meyers]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Josh]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Josh]

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[Josh]

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[Seth Meyers]

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[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Very much, yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

What you do weekends, that was our most regular trip, I would say. We found this beautiful little village in southern Vermont which wasn't fancy but like just super picturesque. And we'd rent a house there every Christmas basically was our main one as kids. And you guys loved it. It was simple. And we always have New Year's Eve there. It was like became a ritual. And Anna and I would dance on New Year's. You really. They would have like this local. It was real corny local Vermont band that would play and they have this New Year's party in a barn. And the kids loved it. And Anna would always. That's why it made me teach her to swing dance.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And at her wedding, what she wanted to do for the father daughter dance was to swing dance. So we did that.

[Josh]

Did you already know how to swing dance, Tony?

[Tony Goldwyn]

I kind of learned in college.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

You're very good at it.

[Tony Goldwyn]

I went to this college and I mean I was like to dance and went to this college in upstate New York and it was like a thing in the early 80s. I don't know, like maybe that was a preppy. I didn't grow up on the east coast, but I think it felt like a prep school or some kind. Kids knew how to do that. So I learned. It was fun.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm glad we finally found something that maybe you're better than Anna at because like French and surfing, so it does. But like, Anna, will you concede ballroom dancing to your death?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

For sure. At my wedding I was like. Like, I feel like when I watched the video of it, I'm like, oh my God. I'm really not doing a great job of following. But it was.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Well, you were in like a dress that had a train.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, not that, but.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

And I was also just like had so much adrenaline. I feel like I probably wanted to just like run through a Wal. But yeah, no, you. He is very. He's very good at dancing and those. It was so fun, like as a kid. I remember because my mom would always want to go to sleep and Tess was really young and so she was asleep and I feel like we would go to the barn and stay. I was like so fun to stay up until midnight and we would dance and although I. On those trips, I feel like I did get hurt a lot because your dad flipped.

[Josh]

Flying, like throwing you around, Swinging around.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Not dancing, thank God.

[Tony Goldwyn]

But no sledding. I would take her into dangerous. She would go sledding and fall on her face and come home bloodied.

[Seth Meyers]

Josh, is that in our family? I think there's one kid is the one who like just gets hurt all the time.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I mean, I. I feel like I should get an award at this point.

[Tony Goldwyn]

You do. It's one of Anna's things. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Did you break any bones?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

So many. I've broken ribs. I broke ankles, ribs, wrists, Most recently arm very badly.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah. And I had a near death skiing accident a couple years ago. We were in Utah and that was a really bad. Broke your shoulder and arm. That was a good family trip. It was a good family trip until you had your accident.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Was it. Was it not to make you relive it, but was it one of those falls where you were aware for a while that you were falling and the impact was coming?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I was aware for a very long. Not the impact was coming. The impact was coming over and over and over again. Yeah, yeah, it was Terri. I mean, it was terrifying. I fell, but also I fell in the most like myself manner where I wasn't even moving. I just like lost my balance.

[Seth Meyers]

Right.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

And. And I'm a pretty good skier and like, you know, you fall a million times, but I fell and then I just didn't stop falling and was like tumbling and at some point like my arm detached from my body and I didn't even feel it and. But I. I was lucky in the sense that I didn't lose consciousness. So I was like aware of like controlling my body so that I didn't like fly in a different direction. And then I just slid to a stop. And my sister, my dad. You weren't skiing for some reason?

[Tony Goldwyn]

No, I had just gone in like I was. I was tired. It was our last day, so I was like, I'm just gonna go in.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah, of course. Last run of the last days.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Called me. Anna's in the clinic. She. I thought she was dead.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

But I was not dead.

[Seth Meyers]

Thank God, but our oldest is so clumsy.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And it's awful because it's. We just. My wife and I find it so funny. And the other day we heard him walking towards our bedroom and we just heard the loudest Ow. And then he came and he's like, well, no surprise here. I stubbed my toe. The fact that he now is aware that like, yep, it happened again.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

It will be a lifelong.

[Tony Goldwyn]

It's funny. I mean, yeah, you've been like that since you were a little like, Anna was the kid who at four years old was diving off the couch for no reason and cuts her chin wide open on the coffee table or in a playground, would try to jump from one play structure to another where it was a 12 foot gap and land, you know, flat on her face. She was an athlete in 8th grade basketball. Going for a rebound, snapping your ankle. Yeah. It was just been a lifelong thing.

[Seth Meyers]

It's both like good and bad to have a kid who is fearless.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

You know what I mean? Like you, you would, you would say as a parent, like, I want them to be fearless. And then you see him jumping around, you're like, well, let me have a little common sense.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Unfortunately, it took many years until I finally was like, oh, I should have some, some, some fear.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. Did you ever, Tony, do you ever take vacation with your grandparents? And Anna, did you ever take vacations with your dad's parents or your mom's parents? Me?

[Tony Goldwyn]

Well, once or twice. I mean, my mom's parents were long dead. My dad's parents, I think we did when I was really little, but they were quite old. I mean, my grandfather was in his 80s when I came around, so we, I remember going to like, maybe we went to Palm Springs for a weekend or. I just have a vague memory of that. Yeah. So. But not, not, not really.

[Seth Meyers]

More like dutiful vacations with grandparents as opposed. Like that's how I sometimes feel like we had dutiful, you know, like be with your grandparents but don't like enjoy it.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Well, yeah, we did. Nana Jane's mom would come with us on vacation and then they would fight.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah, I mean, well, that's, I feel like that's like the Muskie women tradition is like my mom and her mom just always fought and that was like their love. And then I feel like my mom and I fight all the time and that's our love and it's like passed down. But we went to La Jolla a lot with grandpa.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Oh, with grandpa. Yeah, that's right.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

You did a lot to the same.

[Josh]

Place to that La Jolla Inn?

[Tony Goldwyn]

No, when. When my dad got older, you know, and. And he. He. He got himself a. A house that he sort of caved and, you know, he. And he bought. He. He lived his. Got his dream and got a house in La Jolla when I was.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

He couldn't spoil his kids anymore.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Once he couldn't spoil his kids anymore, he decided to spoil himself.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I want everybody to know I got this for me. Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And his grandchildren.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

So that was really. That was always fun because I also feel like. Like growing up on the east coast, but with a family that is, like. Was from the West Coast. I was so enamored with California, which is probably why I came here for college. And so I always felt like when we went to la, but then specifically to La Jolla, it just felt so exotic. Like, even though we would go to the beach, obviously in New England, it's a different thing. And so I loved that. And then my mom's mom, I mean, we went to New Jersey all the time to see her down the shore, but I don't.

[Seth Meyers]

I was gonna ask where the muskies are from, because.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Jersey.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. It's a great lake.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Jersey.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And then the Jersey shore. Yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Never met people who love New Jersey more.

[Seth Meyers]

And was.

[Josh]

Were they right on the shore? Like, were you on boardwalks?

[Tony Goldwyn]

Jane grew up in Maplewood, New Jersey, where her mom lives, which is a suburb, you know, just outside of New York City. And then when her mom retired, she moved down to Siegert, which is a, you know, right on the shore. Yeah, she wasn't. Didn't have a beach house, but she lived, you know, in a beach community. It was great.

[Josh]

And Anna, when you went there, would you. Were you sort of free to run about as you wanted?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Not, I feel like, not totally. Like, the neighborhood she was in, it didn't feel like, you know, you were just kind of, like, out and about. But what I did feel free to do for a very long time was watch cable television there. Cause we didn't have cable TV until I was, like, a preteen.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Oh, that's right. I forgot.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah. And so it was the best part of going to grandma's house was always watching, like, Nickelodeon and stuff.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Doesn't that sound crazy now? Like, we were trying to be disciplinary in parents and not expose our kids to too much media. And of course, Jane and I grew up in the era when there were, like, three channels. And so we were like, cable TV is the dev. We're not paying for that. And we're not doing, you know, and the kids don't need that much. And now to think, I mean, you guys are dealing with young kids with social media, which is a whole other thing.

[Seth Meyers]

It's so also, though, I do remember that we didn't have cable tv and like, if there was a kid in the town who did, like, you would overlook a lot of that kid's flaws.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Oh, for sure.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

For the purposes of getting invited over.

[Josh]

The video game system, I feel like.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

It was like going to Nana's house. It was being able to watch like the specific, like Nickelodeon and Disney shows. And then also it was the only time that mom ever let us eat McDonald's.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Oh, yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

So those that matters, that, you know, they were great. Those were great trips.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

And Nana was hilarious.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And you loved your grandma.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

She was the funniest person ever.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Loved my mother in law. She was a character.

[Seth Meyers]

Did you really, from the beginning, adored her.

[Tony Goldwyn]

We got along better with each other than, than, I mean, sometimes than with my wife. 100, by the way.

[Seth Meyers]

I've got that too. Oh, did you ever share. I, I, I've said this on stage, so I'm not like. But have you ever shared a look with your mother in law while you were fighting with your wife where the mother in law was like, oh, sorry about this. Like, yes.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And vice versa, probably.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And vice versa. Or she would call me in tears going, oh, you have to say this. I'm like, banni was her nickname. Banni. I was like, banny, you're on your own. I'm not.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, oh, yeah. The thing I say to my mother in law is I'm always like, you know, we'll be holding each other's hands and I'm like, you just have to remember she's the way she is because of you and not because of me. She was already the way she was when I met her.

[Josh]

You had her first.

[Seth Meyers]

You had her first. All the important, all the things that are wrong happened on your watch.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yes.

[Josh]

Anna, you were a college athlete. You rode in college.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I was, yeah. Yeah.

[Josh]

Tony, would you travel for meets? Is that the right word?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Regattas?

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah, all the time. Particularly in high school. Anna was like a really good high school rower and she had like a high performance team that she was on. And being a rowing parent, you basically drive hours and hours and hours between kind of like Boston and Philadelphia. Anywhere in between. You're going to these regattas, which were cool, but, and you're on a beautiful river lake or something. But you basically wait for hours for your child's event and then you go, I think they're starting now. And you're at some point on the river and then you go, I think their boat's gonna be coming soon. And you're trying to time it. And then you see the boats approaching and then they row by and you go, I think that's her.

[Seth Meyers]

Go, go, go.

[Tony Goldwyn]

I think that was.

[Josh]

Was that her?

[Tony Goldwyn]

That was them. I think that was them, yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

It's the worst rugby port ever.

[Tony Goldwyn]

You wait a couple more hours. So, But. And sometimes in the pouring rain. But it was fun in college, I think for some reason, I think maybe I was working in New York. I only went to some of your college regattas.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I also feel like in college it wasn't, it wasn't as much parents, like, it felt much more like college athletics where everyone was just there with like their teams. But in high school, I mean, we went to. You came to California for races in high school. We went to, yeah. Indiana, a lot of championships.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Cincinnati. Yeah.

[Josh]

How are you getting your boats to Indiana? Are you sending them?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Someone drives them. Yeah. So the way it works is like the team, you know, flies, but then there's a. A big thing in rowing is the day before everyone leaves the race, you de. Rig all the boats. And that's like a very important part of being on a rowing team. And so everyone derigs the boats and then they get loaded onto this very specific kind of trailer and then someone usually like a lowly assistant coach will drive the boats. Sometimes, I mean, when we would go to California, we would borrow a boat. No one was driving across the country, but, but in like college, they're driven across the country and. But yeah, they would drive them from Connecticut to like Ohio or Indiana or whatever. And then you would show up and they would be there and you would put the riggers back on and. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

What's the longest race in terms of how long it would take from start to finish that you would do?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

So typical rowing races, like the most sort of the, the main competitive rowing races are 2000 meters. So depending what kind of boat you're in, that takes. Or if you're a man or a woman, it takes between like five to 10 minutes. If you're rowing it alone, it takes longer. But then in the fall, and that's like what they do in the Olympics, 2000 meter races. And then in the fall there's like longer courses. So if you've heard of like the Head of the Charles is sort of the most famous in America. That's a 5K. So that's a bit longer and takes longer. But it's usually. It's a different kind of race. Like you don't all start at the same time. It's like more like a time trial type of thing. So. And those are fun. Cuz you're. It's like a more beautiful, you know, you're kind of like in the scenery and you're sort of moving around a river whereas like.

[Tony Goldwyn]

But you're rowing hard for 20 minutes.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah, I mean it's hard, but it's like a little bit. It kind of has a different feel. A 2K race where you're all starting. It's like what you see, you know, in a movie or in Olympics or something is like the most stressful experience in the entire world and the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. So.

[Seth Meyers]

And how in a. Pardon my ignorance, how quickly in a race, like if it's a 10 minute, between 5 and 10 minutes, how often after 1 minute do you feel like you know how it's gonna go? Like, are there dramatic comebacks?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, Very dramatic comebacks. I've been on both ends of them, both come back and been come back on, which sucks. And yeah, like rowing races are really dramatic because you're all kind of. At some point at least if you're in like the finals of a race, like everyone's good, you know, so. And this way the boats start is weird because they have to get momentum and so. And also things can happen like you have this appendage and if it like touches the water in the wrong way, it can like totally screw up your boat. And yeah, it's like a very exciting experience when you're in the middle of it, you're like, why the hell am I doing this to myself right now? But my mom was a rower and so that's why I started. And so again I blame, you know, we all just blame our parents.

[Seth Meyers]

I feel like the important thing that I. Cause I ran track and I ran middle distance, but I also wasn't good. And the speed in which the minute a race started, like, nope. Like I literally like, you know what I mean? Like they were already. I'm like, well, it's not like I'm gonna. In 400 meters, I'm going to be the fast one.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Were you able to push yourself or did you kind of just feel like I'll cruise?

[Seth Meyers]

I pushed myself. But I remember like the amount of like mental Deals I would make with myself where, you know, I'd hit the turn and be like, today's that day.

[Josh]

I got it.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, now it's over.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I feel like is hard track. I mean, I'm not a great runner, but I just feel like the mental gymnastics you have to do and running, like, you're just so on your own and how you deal with that, I find very.

[Seth Meyers]

I will say I'm glad I ran because it's like, something I continue to do my whole life, and it is still my favorite form of exercise because of the mental component of just, like, being by yourself. But.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

And I'm not good at teamwork, so you don't want me on your boat. Yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I mean, what. The funny thing about rowing, too, is, like, I was talking with someone about this other day. It's like the ultimate team sport because you all have to be going at the same. You know, you're matching each other, but at the same time, like, you're not. Not communicating. So I was talking to someone about how, like, weird rowers can be, and I'm like, yeah, because we don't ever need to talk to each other. Whereas, like, if you're a team, like, team sport that's playing on a field or a court or whatever, you have to communicate. And with rowing, it's like you're just silent. You're not looking at each other.

[Seth Meyers]

Right.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

And. And so, I mean, myself included, I feel like a lot of rowers get a lot of social anxiety.

[Seth Meyers]

That's fair. By the way, when Josh said you rode, I. It hurt in my head. Josh R O D E. And, like, as Josh mentioned, his wife's an equestrian. He's like, you rode. And those were called regattas. And I'm like, what's wrong with you? Horse regattas. And then I slowly put it together.

[Josh]

That's a different deal.

[Tony Goldwyn]

That sounds like a good sport.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

You don't want me on a horse. No.

[Seth Meyers]

This has been. How many of you guys have started. How many do you have in the.

[Josh]

We started with.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay, great.

[Tony Goldwyn]

What week are we on in terms of airing? Anna?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I think we're on week eight now. Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

We launched in September, so. Yeah.

[Josh]

I listened to your first episode, and I know that you both admitted to being little white liars. So I hope that all these stories you've told us today are true.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

You'll never know.

[Josh]

You haven't been sort of volleying with each other and, like, we gotta tell these guys some stories about trips.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah, exactly. It's been really amazing. Like you said, Seth, the scheduling is the.

[Seth Meyers]

So funny.

[Tony Goldwyn]

The kind of nightmare of it. But as soon as we have these conversations, this is such a great format, you know? Cause we get used to doing interviews or talking, you know, and you get, like, when I've done your show, it's, what do you have? Seven minutes? And we have a great conversation. It's fun. But then it's suddenly over before you get started. And podcasts are. It's so cool. I mean, to have a conversation like this is so fun. And to interview all kinds of interesting people. Like this week, we have these two basketball. Because our show Far from the Tree is parents and children who work in the same industry. So we have Vic and Blair Shaffer. He's the women's head coach of the UT women's basketball team, and she's his assistant coach. And so to hear about a father and daughter who work together on the same basketball team, wasn't that an awesome conversation, Anna?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.

[Tony Goldwyn]

And then actors. Yeah, it's been really cool. So worth it. It's very fun, and it gives Anna and I a chance to hang out.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah. I mean, that's the bonus of this for us is, yeah. We spend an hour a week at least, chatting.

[Seth Meyers]

I'll tell you what, I was lucky enough to run into PTA Tony a couple weeks ago. I was at the Amy Poehler snl.

[Josh]

That's Paul Thomas Anderson.

[Seth Meyers]

Paul Thomas Anderson. And I'll tell you what I told him, which is I did the most, like, father of three kid thing, which is I saw one battle after another at 10:30 in the morning on a Friday.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

That sounds great.

[Seth Meyers]

It was like, literally a theater with like eight other dads. And it was. It was. You were so great.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Oh, thanks, man.

[Seth Meyers]

And I'm very part of that, very jealous that you got to work so much with my old colleague Jim Downey.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Jim Downey. What a great guy. And unbelievable, you know, with Jim who, for those who don't know, Jim is legendary Saturday Night Live writer from.

[Seth Meyers]

Former. Former head writer.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Former head writer from the very beginning until pretty recently he retired. Jim, just. Anything that comes out of his mouth is. You just start laughing. And when we're shooting our first scene with the Christmas adventurers, Sean Penn and Jim and me in this hotel suite. And every time Jim would talk, Paul would ruin the shot because he would start laughing uncontrollably. Anything Jim did, I mean, like, I thought it was amusing, but Paul has this passion for Jim Downey. And anything that Comes out of his mouth. He just falls apart laughing. So he kept having to leave the set because he was just cracking up.

[Seth Meyers]

And it's sort of remarkable because he does. It's not like he's putting a lot of sauce on it. There's just something about the way Jim says it. And I mean, those. I mean, those were. I mean, again, I love the movie so much. Those scenes were so awesome because nobody was pushing it. Everybody was just those Christmas adventure clubs. Cause you're like, this is the baddiest idea. And just watching and spending time with everybody in this room, and none of them know they're crazy. And they're all just, you know, it's literally like watching somebody do their taxes. But it's so great. Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Well, thanks, man.

[Seth Meyers]

But bravo and congrats on the new podcast. Oh, we. You have to do the speed round. Josh is going to take over.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Oh, okay.

[Josh]

All right, here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation. Relaxing, adventurous, or educational?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Adventurous.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Adventurous.

[Josh]

Love it. What is your favorite means of transportation?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Train?

[Tony Goldwyn]

Bicycle?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Boat. No, boat. Boat.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Oh, yeah, Bicycle.

[Josh]

This one gets tricky.

[Seth Meyers]

You were worried your. Your crew team was listening.

[Josh]

If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Oh, my God. I don't know. Who would be, like, really fun? Oh, this is hard. Do you have one?

[Tony Goldwyn]

I'm trying to think. It'd be someone, like, adventurous, like.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Yeah, like the Kennedys or something.

[Josh]

That's a good one.

[Tony Goldwyn]

No, that sounds too complicated for me.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Maybe just one Kennedy.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Which one? Which one?

[Seth Meyers]

You have to say. You say it, and then when you show up at the airport, you find out which one.

[Josh]

You don't get what you necessarily wanted. You get one.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Exactly. I don't know.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Maybe not the living Kennedys.

[Josh]

Tony, any. Any answer from you?

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah, I want to say. Well, he's old now. Evan Chouinard. Evon Chouinard. Is that how you say his first name? You know who. He's a famous. Famous. He invented. He started Patagonia. Oh. Famous mountaineer and rock climber. And I know his existence now, but what's it. You do? Yeah, he's like an amazing man and, like, goes to these incredible places and does incredible things.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

That's a better answer.

[Seth Meyers]

Great.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I'll do that one.

[Tony Goldwyn]

No, I thought yours was good. I like that. I just don't want to be on that vacation.

[Josh]

I have a suggestion on what your answer should be for both of you. On this next one, but we'll see if you get it. If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Oh, immediate family.

[Seth Meyers]

Extended family? Yeah.

[Tony Goldwyn]

I love my wife. I love my. I adore my daughters. I'd be happy to be with either one, But I'd pick Jane.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I would probably pick my sister.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Sorry, dad.

[Seth Meyers]

You guys have full come, full circle. I mean, I would say sorry to your husband.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I didn't know if it was supposed to be like our.

[Seth Meyers]

No, it's too late. Can't go back. Can't go back. Too late.

[Josh]

Tony, what's your hometown?

[Tony Goldwyn]

Los Angeles. Born in Santa Monica. We agree. Los Angeles.

[Josh]

Okay, if you were pitching Los Angeles to families to try to get more families to come visit, how would you do it?

[Tony Goldwyn]

I would say that LA is a city. It's like many amazing cities in one sprawling city. And you have to find your place and your people. But when you do, it's an incredible place with all kinds of. It's underrated, culturally. There's extraordinary people. Everyone comes there to achieve their dreams. And therefore, there are lots of really interesting people in Los Angeles.

[Josh]

Great. And, Anna, what is your hometown?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

New Canaan, Connecticut.

[Josh]

Same thing for New Canaan. You gotta get families to come to New Canaan. How do you sell it?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

I always say to people, it's like the. You know, like the Christmas train sets. It's like the town in the middle of the train set. And so it's just, like, incredibly picturesque. I would also say that people in New Canaan are really nice. And I grew up there and have, like, my best friends in the entire world from there. And I think that that says something, that I'm still friends with people that I knew when I was 11. But aesthetically, it does feel like you're in the middle of, like, a Christmas movie.

[Tony Goldwyn]

I was afraid you were gonna say it's like the Christmas adventurers.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

No.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, maybe just a little tiny.

[Josh]

Which we hope is just a wacky idea. And Seth has our final questions.

[Seth Meyers]

Have you guys been to the Grand Canyon?

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

No.

[Tony Goldwyn]

I want to go.

[Seth Meyers]

Yes.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Once. Only once? When I was 10 years old.

[Seth Meyers]

And you want to go? And Tony, my follow up was, was it worth it when you were 10?

[Tony Goldwyn]

Yeah, it was amazing. I thought it was amazing.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean, not amazing enough to go back.

[Tony Goldwyn]

My dad and I drove across country and he was like, we're at the Grand Canyon. And we looked at it and he's like, okay, we gotta go now.

[Seth Meyers]

It's so funny. It's the best joke. And I mean the amount of people that did exactly what was in National Lampoons. So lovely talking to the Golden. You guys are the best. Congrats on the new podcast. Lovely to see you both.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

So nice to meet you guys.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Appreciate it.

[Anna Muskie Goldwyn]

Bye.

[Josh]

Take care.

[Tony Goldwyn]

Bye.

[Seth Meyers]

Bye.

[Josh]

Well, Tony and his daughter Anna have a pod. The booking and the scheduling is quite a job. They also study French online. Anna's is pretty good. We'll say that Tony's is fine. Wife Jane produced the heck out of Anna's wedding. We're talking Anna Muskie Goldwyn and her daddy Tony. They like a trip where they don't really have a plan. And Iceland booked a guy to nice Icelandic man. Each day had six hours of sun. He ran the Goldwyn. There were things to be done. Ride on some snowmobiles and ride those cute ponies. And the greenhouse tomato farm with the tomato ice cream up in Mammoth. An old man with his junk just flapping around. But he tucked that junk away when someone showed up with the children. Snuck into a temple when they went to Bali. We're talking Anna Musky Goldwyn and her daddy Tony. Back in the day for New Year's they go to Vermont.

[Seth Meyers]

A boogie woogie barn.

[Josh]

It was their favorite haunt. And Tony's wife would go to bed. But that was not a problem. He danced with Anna instead. He could spin around the place swing dancing in the haystack. And they would dance around the barn till it was New Year's day. Cows would moo approval of their impressive mo. Flapping and scratching their features like a couple chickens. They were the best around. They were a sight to see. We're talking. And a Muskie golden and her daddy told me.