Fantasy Fanfellas Ep 2: Mistborn Chapters 6-10

Summary

Fantasy Fanfellas Ep 2: Mistborn Chapters 6–10

Podcast: Fantasy Fanfellas (Fantasy Fangirls Media Network)
Hosts: Hayden & Stephen Walker
Date: November 12, 2025
Book Discussed: Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson (Chapters 6–10 only)
Spoiler Policy: Spoilers strictly limited to the chapters discussed

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Episode Overview

In this deep-dive episode, Hayden and Stephen explore Mistborn chapters 6–10, focusing on Vin’s training, character growth, heist planning, the intricacies of Allomancy, emerging group dynamics, lore tidbits, and their own predictions and theories.

True to the show’s style, Hayden brings “professor” energy and deep fandom, while Stephen provides the fresh perspective of a first-time reader, injecting humor, strong analogies, and skepticism. Together, they break down the evolving plot, highlight character moments, and dig into Sanderson’s lore—all with plenty of banter and memorable pop-culture comparisons.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chapter Summaries — “Lorreth’s Ballad” Style Recap

(05:45–09:32)

Stephen opens with his own flavor-packed retelling, heavily analogized and full of pop-culture references:

• Chapter 6: Vin wakes up in an unfamiliar, luxurious setting, feels out of place, and attends a crew meeting where heist plans are mapped. The idea arises to pit the noble houses against one another. The chapter ends with Kelsier’s brother, Marsh, appearing.
• Chapter 7: Kelsier pleads for Marsh’s help. Vin eavesdrops but gets caught. Kelsier gifts Vin new clothes and begins her Allomancy training.
• Chapter 8: Vin’s practical Allomancy lesson—learning to “jump high”—leads to a near disaster. Vin and Kelsier encounter a Mistwraith (creepy but mostly harmless). They meet Sayzed and head to House Renau.
• Chapter 9: Months pass; Vin now embodies “Taylor’s version of herself”—graceful and trained. Sayzed attempts to convert her to a religion during a literal makeover session. Kelsier tasks Sayzed to protect Vin.
• Chapter 10: Vin gets a crash course in emotional Allomancy with Breeze (not-so-easy-breezy), while philosopher Ham raises big moral questions about their rebellion. The crew contemplates recruitment snags and the looming threat of the Lord Ruler. The episode closes with news that Cayman’s lair has been raided by the Ministry.

Memorable Lines:

• Stephen: “Feels more out of place than an Amish boy in a Best Buy.” (05:45)
• Stephen: “She’s training and getting better at Allomancy. Later, Sayzed tries to convert her to a religion while she’s getting a haircut, like some barbershop in a small southern town…” (07:44)

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2. Character Development & Themes: Coming-of-Age, Trust, and Community

(09:59–13:38, 16:36–19:24, 27:25–28:13, 41:02–41:36, 45:29–45:59)

• Vin’s Self-Discovery: The hosts discuss Vin’s journey toward self-worth and her adjustment to being treated with respect. Scenes where Vin is unsure whether to trust the crew or accept comfort are explored as hallmarks of the coming-of-age theme.
  • Hayden: “What is so wonderful about the beginning of a fantasy series is that we get to learn along with the characters…” (09:59)
  • Key Quote (Vin’s POV): “I'm an important person now... Or was she simply treated with respect because she was a guest?” (12:27)
• Trust Issues: Both Vin and Stephen relate on not trusting easily. Parallels are drawn to real-life patterns of suspicion and gradual opening up.
  • Stephen: “Maybe I am Vin. I feel like I’m Vin in this story. I don’t trust anybody right now. Interesting, because I’ve been hurt before, but I don’t trust Ham.” (59:12)
• Community & Belonging: Scenes of casual camaraderie among the crew spark Vin’s longing for inclusion, but her street-toughened instincts hold her back (“Old habits die hard”).

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3. The Heist Setup: Crew Meetings & Master Plans

(14:45–19:14)

• Heist Tropes and Noble Politics: Hayden delightfully breaks down the meeting scene, comparing it to classic heist stories. The crew’s debate over rebellion or turning noble houses on each other emphasizes Sanderson’s focus on plotting, misdirection, and subterfuge.
  • Hayden: “We are now treated to a classic heist planning scene. It’s just one of those tropes in every heist story that I just love.” (14:46)
• Kelsier’s Leadership: Kelsier asking Vin’s advice is highlighted as a pivotal trust-building moment, with his recognition of her unique streetwise perspective adding group value.

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4. Allomancy 101 — The Deep Dive into Magic

(27:25–35:38)

Hayden delivers a full run-down of the Allomantic metals, with Stephen’s skeptical and comedic takes sprinkled throughout.

• System Intricacy: Emphasis is placed on how Allomancy’s rules and limitations (e.g., “pushing” and “pulling” depend on relative weights, alloy quality matters, side effects for overdoing it) make for a balanced, unique, and strategic magic system.
  • Stephen: “This has got to be like, one of the most intricate and well-designed and original magic systems I’ve ever heard of.” (30:13)
• Hosts identify pewter as the “Taylor’s Version” metal—heightening one’s best abilities.
• Humor highlights:
  • Stephen: “If you want to hide metals from people... just shove it up your butt? That was just my first thought. Which shows you how weird my mind is, apparently.” (36:34)

Metal Cheat Sheet (35:52):

• Pewter: Strength, endurance, agility
• Tin: Enhanced senses
• Zinc: Soothe emotions
• Brass: Riot emotions
• Copper: Hide Allomancy
• Bronze: Detect Allomancy
• Iron: Pull on metals
• Steel: Push on metals

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5. Lore, Worldbuilding, and the Epigraphs

(10:35, 21:38, 35:44, 46:29, 52:22)

Each chapter is prefaced by an epigraph—cryptic lore fragments whose origins remain unclear. Stephen is especially exasperated by their vagueness but intrigued by their ominous tone (“Who said that? That's my question. I just want to yell that every time I read these freaking things.” 52:48).

• Deepness & The Lord Ruler: Early epigraphs reference a threat (“the deepness”) and foreboding arrogance; Hayden hints listeners should keep watching for connections.
• Keeper Lore: Sayzed’s role as a Keeper—and by extension, the importance of preserving old religions—subtly foreshadows future plot significance.

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6. Sayzed, Religion, and Comic Relief

(39:06–48:42)

• Sayzed the Relentless: Quickly a fan-favorite, Sayzed’s patient, gentle mission to help Vin “find her belief” is both sincere and comedic—the hosts needle his persistent “Do you know the Lord?” pitches.
  • Hayden: “Sayzed just won’t quit... This religion is called trilogism... and he has made it his personal mission to find a religion for her among the 562 ones that existed before the Lord Ruler’s ascension.” (47:44)
  • Multiple running jokes compare Allomancy roles to Quidditch positions (“Seeker,” “Keeper,” “Smoker”), and Sayzed’s efforts likened to door-to-door missionaries.
• Notable Quote: “The right belief is like a good cloak, I think. If it fits you well, it keeps you warm and safe. The wrong fit, however, can suffocate.” (43:12, as paraphrased by Hayden)

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7. Character Relationships & Morality

(22:28–24:09, 41:56–45:25, 53:44–54:43)

• Kelsier & Marsh: Their uneasy reunion questions Kelsier’s motives and whether he’s the “good guy” after all.
  • Hayden: “This is yet another moment where we are asked, is Kelsier really the good guy here? I mean, he’s really living up to that morally gray moniker smash.” (23:02)
• Vin & Kelsier: Themes of earning trust, acceptance, and being “given a place” are emphasized through Kelsier’s mentorship.
  • Hayden: “No matter how many people Kelsier murders, the way that he treats Vin in my mind makes up for all of it…” (27:10)
• Ham & Breeze: Their comedic banter (philosophical musings vs. practical cynicism) lightens the tone.
  • Ham: “Do you see the problem?”
  • Breeze: “I see an idiot.” (54:43)

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8. Magic, Limitations, and Worldbuilding Details

(32:10–36:41, 39:02–39:37, 54:05–55:52)

• Mistwraith Encounter: A grotesque, multi-limbed scavenger, described in detail, signals deeper mysteries in Sanderson’s world (“a cocktail of a being... rather eerie looking, but mostly harmless.” 07:53).
• Allomancy’s Physical Laws: Metal in the body can't be pushed/pulled; practical implications (and bodily-smuggling gags) ensue.

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9. Predictions, Theories, Winners & Losers

(58:34–62:26)

• Winners:
  • Stephen: “Kelsier is the perfect example of being a non-toxic man.” (58:34)
  • Hayden: “My winner is Sayzed. No real reason. He’s just my baby boy, and I love him so much.” (60:06)
• Losers:
  • Stephen: “It’s pork meat. Mr. Ham. I don’t trust him.” (59:05)
  • Hayden: “Loser goes to Cayman. Anytime Cayman is mentioned... he gets the loser of that episode by default.” (60:06)
• Predictions:
  • Stephen suspects Ham might betray the group, doubts Kelsier truly has the “Eleventh Metal,” and theorizes Kelsier’s relationship with the Lord Ruler is more complicated than it seems (“As clear as mud right now, buddy.” 60:40).
  • Hayden rates these predictions “5% correct.”

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10. Notable Quotes & Banter

• Stephen, on new surroundings: “Vin Damsel wakes up in a bougie room...feels more out of place than an Amish boy in a Best Buy.” (05:45)
• Hayden, on Vin’s arc: “She does not have to worry about getting food on her plate for every single meal. And yet here she is hoarding...” (13:29)
• Hayden: “It’s a classic heist planning scene... Everyone’s standing around a chalkboard writing out the plan...” (14:46)
• Stephen, on Allomantic theory: “Can you put a metal in your butt to smuggle it without getting retracted?” (36:39)
• Hayden, on Sayzed: “Sayzed spends his summers walking around neighborhoods with the short-sleeve white shirts...” (43:27)
• Stephen, on religion pitches: “Here we go again with the religion. He won’t stop. Do you know the Lord yet? We’ve had several months.” (47:31)
• On Mistwraiths: “It is an organic mad-libs. Anyways, back to the Mysteries…” (38:33)

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Important Timestamps

• Chapter Summaries & Tone Setup: 05:45–09:32
• Theme of Learning & Coming-of-Age: 09:59–13:38
• Heist Planning Discussion: 14:45–19:14
• Magic System Deep Dive: 27:25–35:38
• Mistwraith Encounter & Worldbuilding: 36:34–39:37
• Sayzed’s Religion Pitches: 39:06–48:42
• Crew Dynamics & Character Interplay: 53:44–54:43
• Winners, Losers, Predictions: 58:34–62:26

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Final Thoughts

This episode delivers a witty, high-energy walkthrough of Mistborn’s early plot turns and worldbuilding, balancing deep fandom with accessible explanations. Hayden and Stephen’s chemistry is strong, and their blend of humor, skepticism, and insight makes the complexities of Allomancy, character arcs, and lore both engaging and easy to follow. Listeners new to Mistborn will benefit from the chapter-by-chapter approach, while fans will appreciate the sharp observations, meme-worthy quotes, and fresh read-along perspective.

Next Episode: Mistborn Chapters 11–15

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Quotes and timestamps are provided in context where possible, with attributions to Hayden, Stephen, or narration as in the audio. All non-content (ads, intros, outros) has been omitted for clarity.

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What you're about to hear is a brand new Deep Dive podcast hosted by our very own Sanity manager Hayden and our close Bookstagram friend Stephen Walker. Each week they are going to dive deep into Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

But here's the twist. As many of you know, Hayden is absolutely feral for Sanderson's Cosmere and has already read Mistborn, but Steven has not. So so each week you'll join Hayden as he takes Stephen through his first time reading Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson.

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[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

So without further ado, we hope you enjoy this episode of Fantasy Fan Fellas.

Howdy, howdy ho and welcome to Fantasy Fanfellas. I'm Hayden, Producer of the Fantasy Fan Girls Podcast and lover of all things Sanderson.

[Stephen Walker]

And I'm Stephen, your book talk jester and lover of all things fantasy.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

And we are here today to dive so, so deep into chapter six through ten of Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn. A quick reminder. I am serving as your professor of all things Sanderson to not only the audience, but also to Stephen, because he has not read Mistborn before.

[Stephen Walker]

That's right, Professor. So this podcast will only have spoilers for the chapters we read each episode. Which means if you're starting Mistborn, but have yet to finish it, this is the podcast for you. One last thing before we get started. This is a new podcast, as you've probably noticed, so if you want to help get the word out, please give us a follow on Instagram and TikTok at fantasy fanfellows. There's going to be a lot of content you won't want to miss.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Okay, Stephen, it's your time. Please burn your medals and let us know from your perspective what happened in chapters 6 through 10 of Mistborn.

[Stephen Walker]

All right, hey, hey. Let's start with chapter six. Our girl Vin Damsel wakes up in a bougie room, at least to her, and feels more out of place than an Amish boy in a Best Buy. Then she meets some young boy who apparently is smitten and stumbles over his words like Travis Kelce probably stumbles across the field having to carry that red wood of his. Then everyone holds a meeting about the job they have to do. It's led by Kelsier. Obviously they cover some struggles they may have. Then someone suggests that they turn the great houses on each other, like this is the birth of the house cup competition. Ten points to Slytherin, I guess. Basically, the whole chapter is about this meeting, and it's somewhat boring, but necessary, like an oil change. Remember to get those, by the way, folks. But then the chapter ends with Kelsier's older brother showing up.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

What?

[Stephen Walker]

Chapter seven. Kelsier chats with his brother, who's hesitant about helping Kelsier, but willing to hear him out. Like when a friend asks you to help them move, find someone else. Anyway, Vin Damsel listens in the whole conversation through the door, like the Weasley twins with their magic dangly ear. But Kelsier turns on the Find My Eye medal and knows she's eavesdropping. So he goes to her room later and says, hey, it's time for your wax on, wax off moment, girly pop. He gives her a new set of threads and tells her to treat every day like you're going through airport security. Don't have any metal on you, and now it's time to burn some metal, baby. He teaches her how to use different types of metals, what they do, how they work, and then he teaches her about the push pull magic split. No leg day required. Chapter 8. Ven Damsel learns to jump High. Kind of. Kelsier's training tactics are similar to a dad who throws his son into a pool and says, hey, learn to swim. Ha. Memories. Anyway, later they meet this thing called a Mist wraith, which is basically like a cocktail of a being. It's rather eerie looking, but mostly harmless, kind of like your distant relative's dog, even though they assure you every time, oh, she won't bite. Are you sure, Betsy? And then they hitch a ride with some guy named say so or whatever, and they're like, if you say so. And they go to this mansion of renew. How's he pronounced that, by the way?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

I say Renau Renow, but I could be totally wrong.

[Stephen Walker]

Well, we're going to go with Renau, or at least the Teemu version of Renau. It's a bit of a culture shock for Vin because everybody's happy, including the servants, so basically the opposite of life. Then they talk about Vin Damsel's role in everything and they realize she's going to need a makeover. All right, cue the makeup montage of every early 2000s teen flick. Chapter nine, which also begins part two of this book. We cut to a few months later where Vin Damsel is well on her way to becoming a Taylor's version of her herself. She's training and getting better at allomancy. Later, say so tries to convert her to a religion while she's getting a haircut, like some barbershop in a small southern town where the preacher recently gave a sermon about spreading the message. Now she's much more ladylike and ball ready Mia Thermopolis. Also, Kelsier tells say so to give Vin Damsel the old Samwise Gamzee treatment and protect her with his life. Chapter 10. Vin Damsel gets a training session with my favorite side character, Breeze, and it's not easy breezy. Okay, not my best work. Anyway, he teaches her about magical emotions, which kind of sounds like mansplaining, but we will allow it. For now, I guess. Then a guy named Pork Meat, AKA Ham, comes in with a philosophical question akin to the chicken or the egg problem. Kelsier is trying to sway some sca to the cause in a meeting like that relative that won't leave you alone about the newest mlm. There's also talk about the Lord Ruler. He's a God, but he's not a God. He's like a piece of a God. I don't know, honestly. It's giving assistant to the regional manager. Then there's another meeting among our band of thieving heroes. Yay. If I wanted to hear about meetings, I could just finally read my work emails. And the chapter ends with Caiman's lair discovered by magic feds.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Stephen, the absolute leap that you took with your summary from episode one to episode two is unbelievable.

[Stephen Walker]

Was it a leap?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Oh, it was amazing. And I have to say, you stole my princess diary reference. And so I just wanted everyone, everybody to know that we both thought of that separately. I wasn't copying you.

[Stephen Walker]

Oh, are you gonna say it later?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah, I say it multiple times.

[Stephen Walker]

Okay, well, then, you know what? Just pretend like I didn't say it.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Spoilers.

[Stephen Walker]

Spoiler. Spoilers for the episode.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

And now it is time for us to dawn our missed cloaks and dive so, so deep into what happened in this stretch of chapters. But first, my one big word for today is learning. In this stretch of chapters, Vin learns a lot, from how to actually use almancy in a tactical way to more page time with some of the members of the crew. And what is so wonderful about the beginning of a fantasy series is that we get to learn along with the characters. There is a lot to take in in these chapters, but, hey, that's what we're here for. Now, Stephen, can you please read off the epigraph for chapter six?

[Stephen Walker]

With pleasure. Hey, hey. Here we go. I never wanted this true, but somebody has to stop the deepness. And apparently Terrace is the only place this can be done. On this fact, however, I don't have to take the word of the philosophers. I can feel our goal now, can sense it, though the others cannot. It pulses in my mind, far off in the mountains. I like how that said Deepness. And you just said we're going deep. We're already deep in the epigraph, my friend.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

We are going so deep into the deepness of this book. And we are now back with our girl, Vin. She wakes up in an normal room inside of Clubs's shop, which she had been taken to last night after the meeting. But to her, it's rather uncomfortable, and not because the bed is lumpy, but rather because the room is too empty. She's used to sleeping in crowded alleyways or layers, and privacy has never been something that Ven was afforded. And after some snooping around to check out the place, she's caught by Dachshund, who tells her to go take a bath before a crew meeting scheduled for the afternoon. Ven is in a bit of a crisis of identity here. She comes out of her bath smelling like perfume, which she hates, because having a pleasant smell would make her stand out among the other ska. In this moment, she can feel the reality of her life shifting. She's a scoff, but she's now incredibly powerful, and she also happens to smell like a noblewoman. After an entrance and chit chat from Ham, then leaves for her room. But before she goes, she stops at the kitchen to take some food. And she's hesitant to reach for her food at first, because while she's seen Dachshund and other crew members grab food, she isn't sure if she's even allowed to. But the workers in the kitchen seem unbothered when she does, even nodding at her respectfully. The next beat is a wonderful little internal moment, showing that Vin is starting to understand her place in the crew while still holding firm to her survival tactics. Quote, I'm an important person now, she thought with a measure of discomfort. They know that she was Mistborn. Or was she simply treated with respect because she was a guest? I mean, Steven, I love this part of the book because you're starting to see Ven come into her own a little bit. And we already want to root for her, but every step of the way we're like, come on, you could do it. You could do it.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah. She reminds me. I don't think you've read this book. She reminds me of a character named Delilah Bard that comes out of the Shades of Magic trilogy by V E Schwab. Oh, but she's like a cutthroat pirate. She's not. She's a little bit older than the age of this particular character, but similar idea. She's raised on the streets. She's got, you know, short hair. She's kind of boyish in the way she carries herself, but she wants to be that way kind of a thing.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah.

[Stephen Walker]

And then you kind of see her come into her own later. But it's very similar. Also read by the same narrator, so it's interesting. And the main character's name is Kel in that book as well. So.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Okay, so where does the coming of age trope rank for you in your list of tropes?

[Stephen Walker]

I would rank it high because I like a good character arc. I like a character to start one way and then progressively get better as the story goes on. Because I can relate to that.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Stephen Walker]

So the tropes that I can relate to and then apply to my life in some way I value more than other tropes.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Eventually, Vin takes a third bay wrap and flees from the room. It was more food than she could possibly eat. However, she intended to scrape out the barley and save the flatbread, which would keep well should she need to eat it later. This is such an interesting line because it shows you how old habits die hard. Vin is in a new situation here. She does not have to worry about getting food on her plate for every single meal. And yet here she is hoarding it as if she's never going to have food given to her again. And with that, it's meeting time. Vin is summoned to the main room by a young man. And let me tell you, his grasp of the English language is sublime. Quote, you're wanted. He said in a thick Eastern accent. Ups in the where above with the doing with Master jumps to the third floor. I've got to go.

[Stephen Walker]

I laughed out loud during that. I was like, did I read that wrong? Am I stupid? Oh wait, he meant to say that I.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Literally, when you read it for the first time, you're like. Like, am I having a stroke? Because I'm not entirely sure.

[Stephen Walker]

It's like I'm reading the comments on a YouTube video or something.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah, exactly.

[Stephen Walker]

What are they trying to say right now?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah, or like if you get like those spam text messages or whatever.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

But more on what the hell? That was later. But as I said before, it's meeting time. We are now treated to a classic heist planning scene. It's just one of those tropes in every heist story that I just love. Everyone's standing around a chalkboard writing out the plan. And this is literally what the crew is doing right now. The Kelsier and the crew are writing down all the obstacles they're facing. The Luthadel Garrison, the Great Houses, the Lord Ruler. And my personal favorite after a snide comment from Yeddin, Yedin's bad attitude. But as fun as this little planning is, Vin can't shake how wrong it feels to even be talking about the idea of overthrowing the Lord Ruler in the first place. Quote he was. Well, he was the Lord. He ruled all of the world. He was the creator, protector and punisher of mankind. He had saved them from the Deepness, then had brought the ash in the mist as a punishment for the people's lack of faith. Ven wasn't particularly religious. Intelligent thieves knew to avoid the Steel Ministry, but she knew the legends. But the planning continues. Kelsier wants the crew to start with thinking of how to throw the city into chaos. The idea of a full scale Ska rebellion is thrown around, but the Lord Ruler's grasp over the Ska's hope and courage is too strong. They're too fearful for there to be any real rebellion. So Kelsier proposes instead to turn all the great noble houses against each other. Noblemen fighting would cause a rash of assassinations and a disruption of the financial integrity of the city. I don't know about you, Steven, but I love this plan so much more than an all out attack. I feel like this is going to be so much more interesting seeing all the different noble houses get at each other's throats.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah, if they had social media, it'd be even easier. Just post some random thing. Just get them all fighting online.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

The sub tweeting would be absolutely classic in this instance.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah, I could do it for them. They could hire me and I could just really rile some people up.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Oh, absolutely. There's a trickier problem next though. The crew has to figure out how to deal with the garrison and the lord rulers. Some 20,000 troops. And despite the crew promising to get yet in an army, there's no way they could muster one that large. So the crew is stuck. But Kelsier looks to Vin for her perspective. And she is shooketh. No one has really ever asked her for her opinion before, but Kelsier is genuinely asking her. Quote, tell me what you're thinking. Then you've got a much larger enemy threatening you. What do you do? I love this. Because Kelsier, from the minute that he met her, has seen the potential in her, and he's applying it directly to the situation that they're in. He doesn't see a little girl. He sees someone who has had to fight enemies that are bigger than her her entire life. And he sees that as a real value to the crew.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah, sees the potential.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Exactly.

[Stephen Walker]

That's why he's a good character.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

He's a good guy.

[Stephen Walker]

I mean, I think he's a bad.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Guy in some respects.

[Stephen Walker]

We'll see.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

To which Ven answers, you don't fight them. You lure them away so you can get what you need without having to fight them directly. And Vin has an even better idea. What if they lured the garrison out to the pits of Hatsen so that they're away from the city. The pits are an essential part of the lord ruler's grip over the society because it holds all of the adium deposits. So the plan is this. The crew will slowly build up a force of about 10,000 ska housing them within Yeddin's caves that house the Ska rebellion. You'll remember that these very same caves were mentioned in the prologue when The SCA from Trusting's plantation needed a place to run away after his death. After the force is gathered, they will send about 1,000 soldiers to the pits and take control of them. After all, the pits will be much easier to take control of than the entire city of Luthadel. Then the rest of the army will swoop in and overtake the garrison. After the lord ruler is forced to send his own army to reclaim the pits.

[Stephen Walker]

Question. Well, yeah, when you say the Garrison, I just, I had know somebody named Garrison, and I just picture him every time. What is, what exactly is the garrison?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

When I think of the garrison, I imagine it as like the central operations of the army. You know how when you see in movies, they're like coming up to a moat or whatever, and there's the big drawbridge door? Yeah, I imagine that. But inside of a city, not around an actual moat.

[Stephen Walker]

It's not a person. It's a thing.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

It's a thing. Yeah. Not a guy named Garrison who you play disc golf with on Saturdays.

[Stephen Walker]

Okay, this is very helpful because I just picture his goofy face with his Garrison. You're going to take. He seems pretty easy to take over. This is going to take for like half a person.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah, great. Perhaps there's a guy named Garrison who works at the Pig and, But I.

[Stephen Walker]

I, I don't know, maybe, maybe he's like the main guy. I forgot about the Pig. And yeah, can't wait to go there one day. Hey, if this takes off, we got to open it up. We got to open up.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Are you kidding me? Yeah, exactly. So with all that in mind, Ham will be in charge of training this army, and Breeze, the emotional allomancer, will be responsible for recruitment. But damn it, an army is no good without weapons. And how the hell are they going to get those? They can't just walk into the sword store and buy 10,000 swords without drawing some attention. Well, Kelsier knows a very special nobleman who is, let's just say, sympathetic to the cause and will divert weapons from his house to the ska. His name is Lord Rena. But here's the thing. He's not actually Lord Rena. He's an actor, and a very good one at that. But more on that later conversations. Then turn to the war of the noble Houses that the crew is trying to stir up. Remember how Kelsier wanted to be seen during his escapades last night at Keep Venture? Welp, turns out that because it was obvious that a Mistborn, which are only associated with noble houses, was involved, Strath Venture the leader of the house believes that Kelsier was sent by another noble house to assassinate him. So tensions are already starting to bubble. So Kelsier will continue to stir up trouble among the noble houses with more nighttime extracurricular activities. Now, another order of business. The crew needs to infiltrate the noble social functions that happen regularly so that they can pick up on valuable gossip as the job goes on in the background. So they'll need someone to go undercover as an heir of Lord Renown. The team goes down the line, and for varying reasons, none of them will really work until they reach Ven, who gets the job by default. Okay. Whew. We just have one last point of contention here. Even if the crew can raise an army, overrun the pits, lure the army and the Lord Ruler out of the city, there's still the little issue of the Steel Ministry, consisting of the obligators and steel inquisitors. But as usual, Kel has an idea, and he claims that his brother Marsh will take care of it. And just as Kelsier says that, Vin hears a new voice objecting. She hadn't even realized he'd come in the door. But Marsh is here in the flesh, and he wants to speak to Kelsier alone. So the chapter ends with Vin pretending to leave the room, only to scuttle back to listen at the the door. So now, Stephen, please hit us with the Chapter 7 epigraph.

[Stephen Walker]

Raek is a tall man. Of course, most of these terrorist men are tall. He is young to receive so much respect from the other Pacman. He has charisma. And the woman of the court would probably describe him as handsome in a rugged sort of way. Yet it amazes me that anyone would give heed to a man who speaks such hatred. He has never seen Colinium, yet he curses the city. He does not know me, yet I can already see the anger and hostility in his eyes. I like how still I have no idea what these things mean, who they're directed to and who's saying them.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

I literally was going to ask you that exact question. But if I remember my experience reading Mistborn for the first time, I had no idea what was going on with these epigraphs. But I was so curious to find out what was going on.

[Stephen Walker]

So that's a question then. Is this quotes from later in the book or is this contexts later in the book?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

It is quotes from somewhere else. That's all I'm going to say. POV Kelsier. Kelsier is now alone with his brother for the first time. In three years, we learned that Marsh actually was the leader of the Ska Rebellion before Yeddin, but has since dropped the position. Instantly, the brothers are at odds. Marsh gives Kelsier a list of the names of the people he murdered last night at Keep Venture. Kelsier's like, meh, they were noblemen and ska who betrayed other ska. Nbd. This is yet another moment where we are asked, is Kelsier really the good guy here? I mean, he's really living up to that morally gray moniker smash.

[Stephen Walker]

I don't know. I like the shadowy ness. Also, I think he's a good guy with some bad guy. You know what I mean?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Who among us has not murdered a rich person in our time? The conversation moves to Marsh pointing a finger at Kelsier, accusing him of having an ulterior motive for the job. After all, Marsh is the one who's been putting in work for the rebellion for years, while Kelsier and his crew have been petty criminals until now. And Marsh has a point. Sure. As readers, we know that Kelsier wants to accomplish his job. At least we think he does. But his motives seem a little bit hazy to this point. The only real motivating factor we know of for Kelsier is the death of his wife, which is noble, sure, but it's not founded in the idea of liberation for the Ska. So things are testy, to say the least. But sticking to the matter at hand, Kelsier asks Marsh if he can help infiltrate the Steel Ministry. And although Marsh is skeptical, he does admit that Kelsier seems more genuine than usual about this job. He promises to come back and listen to Kelsier's plan and quote, then, well, we'll see. That is the classic answer for whenever you ask your parent if you can do something fun. We'll see.

[Stephen Walker]

We'll see. And then they forget.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah, conveniently.

[Stephen Walker]

And then when I say that, I mean me, because my two kids say that.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

I was just about to ask if you started to put that trick into your golf club, so to speak.

[Stephen Walker]

I say maybe, and then I just forget.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

But maybe. Another classic. Another.

[Stephen Walker]

They don't remind me of this. Then they forgot.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah. And as Marsh leaves, Kelsier notices a quick shadow of movement underneath the door and burns iron to see a blue translucent line pointing through it. He now knows that Ven has been listening this whole time.

[Stephen Walker]

I know you don't have kids, but when you have kids, you'll see fingers under the door when you're in the bathroom. And that just reminded me of that. I don't know why my daughter does that. She'll slip me notes in the door. I'm like, I am trying to have a moment here. That's why I locked the door. She fingers and notes.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

She is yet to figure out the whole stealth thing.

[Stephen Walker]

I don't think she's trying to be stealthy. She's just trying to bother me.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

POV Then Kelsier knocks on the door and Vin makes her best effort to look like she's just woken up. This is like a classic when you were playing your Game Boy underneath your covers at night and then your parents come in and you turn over and pretend like you're asleep.

[Stephen Walker]

Got a Game Boy?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Oh, yeah, I had a Game Boy. I think the first one I had was a Game Boy color.

[Stephen Walker]

That's what I had. I bought that with my nickels that I rolled and saved from birthday. So I went in there with rolls of coins. It came with a worm light because there was no LCD screens back then. You had to have the worm light.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

The most disrespectful thing I've ever said to my dad is probably one time I was playing on my Game Boy advance and I looked over at him and I said, dad, when you had a Game Boy when you were a kid, was it made out of wood? But anyway, Vin is basically a kid coming home after curfew, and Kelsier ain't buying it. But Kel isn't angry. He instead asks Ven what she thinks of Marsh. However, Finn is on guard, still with Kelsier, and despite his kindness, Rean's voice has become stronger in her head since meeting him. But enough about the worst brother of all time. Kelsier tells Vin that it is time for them to start her training. Holy shit. Lfg it is time for allomancy. A quick note before we get into all of that, though. Kelsier quickly leaves for the moment to go chat with the crew in the kitchen. And as Vin watches, she notices the genuine quiet laughter going on in the room among the crew. And deep down, she is curious about what that kind of friendship feels like, to actually just be with people. But she can't bring herself to follow, to be a part of the group. Ven wasn't certain what kept her out of the room. It was as if the light and the humor were a barrier. With Vin exiled to the quiet Psalm workroom, she watched from the darkness and wasn't completely able to suppress her longing. Kelsier returns with a mistborn cloak, and Ven is shocked she assumed that she'd have to earn the honor of having one. But Kelsier dispels this idea. Quote, what's there to earn? Kelsier said, pulling out his own cloak. This is who you are, Ven. No matter how many people Kelsier murders, the way that he treats ventures in my mind makes up for all of it I love so far.

[Stephen Walker]

I mean, yeah, I don't think he has any ulterior motives concerning her. Unless, I guess he wants her to help him in some way. Sure. But I feel like he's genuinely concerned with her.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

No, absolutely, Absolutely.

[Stephen Walker]

I don't get any weird vibes. I do get a weird vibe from somebody else, but we'll get to that later.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Okay, I guess we'll have to find out then. Doesn't feel like she belongs, at least not yet. But Kelsier is slowly but surely trying to build her up to be what he knows she can. Okay, folks, it is time for Allomancy 101. Kelsier and Vin are now on the roof among the mists. Kelsier tells Ven to start burning her metals one at a time, and she can feel eight distinct ones flaring in her stomach. The first she chooses ends up being pewter, which makes her feel less tired and her muscles feel more agile. Kelsier says, quote, that's pewter. It enhances your physical abilities, making you stronger, more able to resist fatigue and pain. You'll react more quickly when you're burning it, and your body will be tougher. So this is not just a straight up power amplifier. This gives you better agility, better endurance. It makes you less tired.

[Stephen Walker]

It makes you a Taylor's version of yourself is what it does.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

That's a great way to put it.

[Stephen Walker]

Pewter is Taylor's version. Just so y' all listening, write that down in your notes.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

We then get a quick tidbit from Kelsier that you can use varying levels of metal at one time, and upping your usage is called flaring. Flaring will make your power stronger and more potent, but they will also run out more quickly.

[Stephen Walker]

Okay, so flaring versus burning. Yeah. Is the main thing here, right?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Exactly. And I think this goes a really long way in actually balancing the power of this magic system, because if somebody could just burn metal indefinitely and get all the benefits, it's less interesting because there's not limitations to the power. Now, before then moves on to another metal, Kelsier tells us a bit about how many of the metals Allomancers use are alloys of other Metals, alloys like pewter are tricky since the metal percentages have to be mixed exactly right if you want maximum power. In fact, if they aren't careful when buying metals, they could end up with the wrong alloy entirely. Pewter, for instance, is generally accepted as an alloy of 10 mixed with lead, with perhaps some copper or silver, depending on the use and the circumstances. Allomancers, pewter is an alloy of 91% tin and 9% lead. If they want maximum strength from their metal, they have to use those percentages. If they burn the wrong percentages and it's only off by a little bit, they'll still get some power out of it. But if it's too far off, it will make them sick.

[Stephen Walker]

That's where my brain just kind of shuts off, like, oh, for sure.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

I mean, percentages for a while. You're like, somebody else.

[Stephen Walker]

Mix this for me.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah. Do I need, like, a chemistry degree in order to understand this? I totally get it. The training moves to another principle of allomancy. There are two metals for every power. One pushes and one pulls. The second is usually an alloy of the first. For emotions or the external mental powers. You pull with zinc and push with brass. Now, pewter is the internal or pushing physical metal. So now Vin activates the external or pulling physical metal. 10.

[Stephen Walker]

This has got to be like, one of the most intricate and well designed and original magic systems I've ever heard of. I really like the magic system.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Oh, I love it. And the thing about it is, you can go as deep as you want, but eventually you're going to just come to know, oh, 10 does this, Pewter does that.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

And that's all you really need to know at the end of the day.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

We've seen 10 activated before. Every one of Vin's senses is enhanced. Quote, the world suddenly became brighter around her. Or. Well, that wasn't quite right. She could see better and she could see farther, but the mists were still there. They were simply more translucent. The ambient light around her seemed brighter somehow. There were other changes. She could feel her clothing. She realized that she had always been able to feel it, but she usually ignored it. It. Now it felt closer. She could sense the textures and was acutely aware of the places where the cloth was tied on her. She was hungry. That, too, she had been ignoring. Yet now her hunger seemed far more pressing. Her skin felt wetter, and she could smell the crisp air mixed with scents of dirt, soot, and refuse. Interestingly, tin burns more slowly than other metals, so mistborn often keep it activated the entire time they're in the mist. It's a very useful metal after all. We then move to bronze, the pushing internal mental metal. As she activates it, Ven notices little pulses emanating from Kelsier. This is how bronze works. It allows you to sense when someone is using owlmancy nearby and seekers like Marsh use it. The applications of this metal are a little bit more limited, but the steel inquisitors use it to hunt for ska allomancers. And all of a sudden the pulses stop because Kelsier activated copper, which masks your allomantic pulse. This is a hugely useful metal. It allows allomancers and mistborn to operate without being discovered. Additionally, it makes you immune to other owlmancers manipulating your emotions. So this is like one of the most useful metals to possibly copper to use Copper, yes.

[Stephen Walker]

It basically is protecting you.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Exactly. Kelsier tells then that she'll want to have her copper running essentially non stop. This is why someone like clubs, a smoker is so important to the crew. He is able to hide not only himself from allomancers and inquisitors, but the rest of the crew as well. As now there are just two metals left. But before Vin can burn them, Kelsier tells her a philosophy of allomancy to live by. The powers it gives you are great, yes, but each has consequences. Take 10, for example. Yes, it gives you enhanced senses to more easily see your enemies. But let's say there's a loud bang that could easily hurt your ears and distract you from what's going on in front of you in a dangerous situation. That could be the difference between life, life and death.

[Stephen Walker]

So each one has a side effect.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Exactly. Like call your doctor before you use.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah, if this was a commercial, it'd be. Side effects may include diarrhea, death. Just those two. Just the two D's. Diarrhea and death.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Now it is time to use the last two metals, steel and iron. Kelsier tells Vin. Quote, iron and steel give you the ability to manipulate other metals around you. Kelsier explained. With iron, you can pull a metal source toward yourself. With steel, you can push one away. So Kelsier pulls a coin out of his pocket and tells Vin to burn steel and push on it. She does, and it flies out of Kelsier's hand. But as soon as the coin hits the wall of a house, then is pushed back. And Kelsier reminds us of the idea of consequences. Quote, you use your own weight when you steel push. If you're a lot heavier than your anchor, it will fly away from you like that coin did. However, if the object is heavier than you are, or if it runs into something that is, you'll be pushed away. Iron pulling is similar. Either you'll be pulled toward the object, or it will be pulled toward you.

[Stephen Walker]

So it's a game of weight.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Exactly. If your weights are similar, then you'll both move. This crystallizes for us readers that allomancy is not some all powerful magic. It still lives within the confines of the physical world.

[Stephen Walker]

No, I was just gonna say. Yeah. That makes it more difficult as the elemancer.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Absolutely.

[Stephen Walker]

You want to just wave a wand and everything is. Anything is possible.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Possible, yes.

[Stephen Walker]

Kind of not.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

And it brings a level of problem solving to combat in this world, which makes it more vivid.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah, that's true.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

All right, everybody, class is over. So now it's time for some real practice. Kelsier tells Vin that she's about to jump over the wall. And Vin is like, what the. But with his patented Kelsier smile, he puts a metal ingot at his feet and launches into the air over to the top of the wall. So then gathers herself, takes a deep breath, and pushes against the ingot with a. With all of her strength.

[Stephen Walker]

So this one was a rather dense chapter with a lot of information. Are you able. How's your memory? Hey, hey.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

I think it's pretty good.

[Stephen Walker]

Do you have a great memory? Can you compact all eight of these metals we just learned about into like one line, which each of them does.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Okay, so first you have pewter, which is going to enhance your physical capabilities, your strength, your endurance, all that good kind of stuff. Then you have 10, which is going to enhance your senses. Next up, you have zinc, which is going to soothe other people's emotions, followed by brass, which riots or enhances people's emotions. Next up, you have copper, which hides your allomancy from other people. And then you have bronze, which allows you to reveal other people's almancy. And lastly, we have iron, which allows you to pull on nearby metals. Or steel, which pushes on nearby metals.

[Stephen Walker]

That's why you get the big bucks, buddy. Just get that memory like a fox or whatever they say, whatever the kids are saying nowadays.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

I appreciate that. So, Stephen, can you give us the epigraph for chapter 8?

[Stephen Walker]

He shall defend their ways, yet shall violate them. He will be their savior, yet they shall call him heretic. His name shall be Discord. They shall love him for it.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

We are back in Vin's POV with Kelsier's help, Ven reaches the top of the wall, but now there's the matter of getting down. Kelsier charges her with using owlmancy to land safely on the ground, but she misjudges her trajectory and is slightly offline with the ingot. So she thinks she's about to die. But Kelsier uses allomancy to grab her by the metal in her belt and brings her slowly down to safety. But, hey, chin up. Then. It was your first time. Conversation moves to a quirk of allomancy, according to Kelsier. Quote, metal in your body, even if only a bit of it is in your body, can't be pushed or pulled. Otherwise, another owlmancer could rip the metals out of your stomach while you were burning them.

[Stephen Walker]

Which leads me to this question. Okay. You know how some people smuggle cocaine through airports?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Sure. Don't have any personal experience with it.

[Stephen Walker]

I don't either, but I've seen movies. Okay. You know, they put it in their butt. Can you put a metal in your butt to smuggle it without getting retracted?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Okay, so I'm going to extrapolate here, because I think the answer is no. Because later in this chapter, and I believe it's coming right up, they talk about the earring that Vin wears from her mother. And because it is, quote, inside her body, it's pierced through her ear, it's not a able to be affected by allomancy.

[Stephen Walker]

Right. So that's what I'm saying. Like, if you want to hide metals from people and they can't shove it.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Up your butt, Shove it up your butt. Yeah, I'm. I suppose I don't know what the utility in the live action would be.

[Stephen Walker]

I don't know. That was just my first thought. Which shows you how weird my mind is, apparently.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

So enough about shoving things up our butts. The pair then start walking around outside the city walls, and then. Can't help but feel a nerve. That's. So something is following them. To which Kelsier replies, ah, yeah, you're right. But it's just a mist wraith. Just a mist wraith? Mist wraiths are of ska legend, and most are terrified of them. But Kelsier tells Ven to follow him so they can go get a good look at it. And eventually, they see it. Quote, the creature had smoky, translucent skin, and Ven could see its bones. It had dozens upon dozens of limbs, and each one looked as if it had come from a different animal. There were human hands, bovine hooves, canine haunches. And others. Others she couldn't identify. The mismatched limbs let the creature walk, though it was more of a shamble. It crawled along slowly, moving like an awkward centipede. Many of the limbs, in fact, didn't look functional. They jutted from the creature's flesh in a twisted, unnatural fashion.

[Stephen Walker]

I read this part several times because I did not know what they were trying to say to me or what picture they were trying to paint.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

What the hell is going on?

[Stephen Walker]

And then I googled what the hell a mist wraith is. And I looked at a picture and I was like, okay. Exactly how they described it. So I was the problem. It is freaky looking.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

It is a organic matte. Libs. Anyways, back to the mysteries. Yeah, that's so gross. I put in parentheses in my outline. Valley Girl accent.

[Stephen Walker]

Well, you nailed it. I thought there was a. I thought there was a Valley Girl in the room with us. I thought you just turned into one. Go on.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

But don't worry. These things may be gross, but they're just scavengers. They take the corpses that they absorb and can recreate their muscle and skin patterns.

[Stephen Walker]

So what's the. So these things have no purpose other than they're basically like the Ra of this little world here.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

It's kind of our understanding of them to this point.

[Stephen Walker]

So they have more emphasis on this.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

To this point, then. And Kelsier continue their journey until they come up to the Imperial High Road, where they find a carriage. And Kelsier calls out, ho. Say Zed. That's right. We finally get to meet my favorite character in this whole series. Sayzed is my boy. Quote, Sayzed had a long, flat face and a willowy body. He was even taller than Kelsier, tall enough to be a bit abnormal, and his arms were unusually long.

[Stephen Walker]

So like Slenderman.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah, or Kevin Durant. As Vin points out, Sayzed is a terrorisman. More on them later. But this added context gives us a little more insight into Sayzed's physical appearance. Quote, his earlobes had been stretched out, and the ears contained studs that ran around their perimeter. He wore the lavish, colorful robes of a terrorist steward. The garments were made of embroidered overlapping V shapes alternating along the three colors of his master's house. But enough descriptions about my dog Sayzed. It's time for the three to get into the carriage to go to their destination, to go meet Lord Renau.

[Stephen Walker]

Well, what, do you have a reason that he's your favorite? Or do we get that at some point you will.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

You will learn the Joys of being acquainted with Sayzed. In due time, my friend. We are back in Kelsier's pov, and the carriage ride is an interesting one. Vin starts to ask Hel about he and Marsh's relationship. She asks if Marsh beat Kelsier much when they were growing up. To which Kelsier is like, what the fuck? No, of course not. Vin comes back with quote, Maybe that's why he doesn't like you. How did you escape? Did you run? Or were you stronger than him?

[Stephen Walker]

I was gonna say, yeah. If you come from a house where you just fight all the time, it's weird to go to someone else's house with the kids.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Just.

[Stephen Walker]

They don't fight each other. Oh. Are you all okay? Is something wrong?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

No. This is all that. Then knows she can't even imagine that there could be an older brother out there who doesn't try to beat their younger sibling.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Then still doesn't trust anyone, let alone Kelsier. But Kelsier gives her the chance to leave, telling Sayzed to turn the carriage around and giving Vin the boxings he had taken from Cayman. She wants to go. She can't. But Ven decides to stay. Quote, but not because I trust you, because I want to see what happens.

[Stephen Walker]

I love that line.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Not very good at lying.

[Stephen Walker]

No, I. That's. I like that line because that's kind of how I live my life. I don't trust anybody, but I want to see what happens here.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

She's like, it's not because I trust you or because you give me food or you let me sleep in a.

[Stephen Walker]

Bed or all about the journey or.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Are nice to me. I just want to know what happens. We are back in Vin's pov. They have now arrived at mansion renowned, and it is spotless. Now in comes Renault. Remember, he's an imposter. The real Renault is dead. But this actor is very impressive, putting Cayman's impersonation of a nobleman to shame.

[Stephen Walker]

There's a point in this book where I think it's the previous episode that we did, where they're talking to. What's the guy's name? Starts with a Y. Yedin.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeddin. Yeah.

[Stephen Walker]

Yedden. So they're saying, hey, we have an imposter. And he's like, okay, how does he look like him? And they won't describe it to him because it would be too graphic. And it reminds me of Game of Thrones, the man with many faces. Oh, yeah, I'm talking about. I'm assuming they alluded to, like, he's wearing his face somehow. Or it's some sort of magical ability. I don't know. Just the way they described it, it seemed gruesome to the point where they wouldn't tell Yetin about it.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

I guess we'll just have to find out, huh?

[Stephen Walker]

Here we go again with your vague things. I love it, but I hate it at the same time.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Renau and Kelsier go into another room to chat, leaving then and Sayzed alone. While she observes the goings on of the mansion, she notices that the servants are happy. That is very atypical of SCA servants. Then begins to engage Sayzed in conversation, asking him how he came to be a part of the rebellion. And Sayzed doesn't really give her a straight answer. Instead, he asks her what she believes in. Does she believe that the Lord ruler is truly God? If she finds she does not, then he's happy to help her find a belief. He gives a wonderful quote here. Quote, quote. The right belief is like a good cloak, I think. If it fits you well, it keeps you warm and safe. The wrong fit, however, can suffocate.

[Stephen Walker]

I like how say that is just like the guy. Do you know the Lord?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Do you know the Lord? Have you heard about our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ?

[Stephen Walker]

He's just trying to get you to know the Lord. Or a Lord somebody.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah.

[Stephen Walker]

You need a belief. You can't just be walking around without one. That's crazy talk.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah. Sayza spends his summers walking around neighborhoods with the the short sleeve white shirts.

[Stephen Walker]

And the black ties, knocking on doors. Not do you know the Lord. It's just do you know a lord? Just pick one. You need something.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

We got hundreds of them.

[Stephen Walker]

That's reaching my bag here. I give you something.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

But man, only a few moments of page time and Sayzed is already dropping bangers. A short time later, Renau and Kelsier return and the decision is made. Ven will attend noble functions not as Renau's heir, but rather as a scion representing his house. If Ven were to go as an heir, all the boys would be clamoring over her, trying to get her hand in marriage. Inheritance brings all the boys in the yard.

[Stephen Walker]

That's great.

[Sundays for Dogs Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Stephen Walker]

This. This time period, you forget sometimes this was all about marriage was a convenience thing and a transactional thing.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah. Much like the original Shadow Daddy. Pride and prejudice.

[Stephen Walker]

Mr. Oh, what's his name?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Mr. Darcy.

[Stephen Walker]

Darcy. But they fell in love.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

They did fall in love.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah. That was the. That was like the first marriage of convenience trope. That Worked out, right?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So this way, since she's not going to be the actual heir, she can fly a bit. Bit more under the radar, but then needs some refinement how to act and carry yourself at these balls. She needs a real princess. Oh, and see, this is the moment where you stole my Princess Diaries.

[Stephen Walker]

Great minds think alike, buddy. I like how you actually knew her name, though. The Princess Diary name.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Oh, yeah. She's a real Princess Diaries makeover situation. So Sayzed will be the one tasked with training her in that regard.

[Stephen Walker]

That was one of my favorite movies as a kid.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Quick tidbit about that movie. Movie. You know who's a real in that movie?

[Stephen Walker]

Okay.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Her best friend. There's a scene when, towards the very beginning, where they're, like, walking to school, and Mia's like. She's upset or whatever, and she's like, what's wrong? And she's like, well, you know, my dad passed away. And she's like, I thought you were over that. It was six months ago. No, she literally said that.

[Stephen Walker]

She literally said, that's a terrible friend. That's a shitty friend.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah. But anyways, on their way to the guest chambers, Kelsier apologizes for excluding her from their conversation with Rao. But he promises it was just a personal matter for Renau and it wasn't information critical to the mission. After Kell leaves, Ben asks Sayzed if he thinks Kelsier is a good man. To which Sayzed says, quote, a very good man. Mistress. One of the best I've known. Which Ven follows up with quote, I don't think I've ever known one of those before. That is just like I. The number of bangers per capita in.

[Stephen Walker]

This book so far, that's a banger. That's more of like a. Another just insight into vintage terrible life. I remember this was an episode that y' all did with fantasy fangirls Nicole and Lexi.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah.

[Stephen Walker]

And they talked about how they really liked the depth of the character of Vin, and they said it was. It's hard sometimes for males to write female parts, but this particular book does a great job of kind of diving into the intricacies of a character.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

And that is the end of part one. Stephen, will you give us the epigraph for chapter nine?

[Stephen Walker]

This is the shortest epigraph we've had thus far. Here we go. It's just one sentence. In the end, I worry that my arrogance shall destroy us all.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

We are in Ven's pov. We fast forward a few months And Ven has taken huge steps in her training as an owlmancer. And not only is she more proficient in her abilities, but it has unlocked something in her owl. Mansky feels like freedom to her. We are treated to a badass scene of her training with Kelsier, where they're doing some practice combat and Vin is whipping out all of the stops, burning one metal after another to try to incapacitate her mentor. So Almancy comes easy to Vin, but learning how to act like a noble woman is proving to be a little more complicated. Sayzed has been working with Vin on this part of the plan for months. And today it's makeover time. Vin is getting her hairstyle to be more feminine, which will help her blend in with the noble folk. While Vin is sitting in the chair getting her hair did, Sayzed starts pitching her a religion that he thinks might suit her.

[Stephen Walker]

Here we go. Here we go again with the religion.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

He won't stop.

[Stephen Walker]

Do you know the Lord yet? We've had several months.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Sayzed just won't quit.

[Stephen Walker]

He just. He's persistent. He's really trying to spread the gospel of pick one.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

This religion is called trilogism. Remember? Then told Seyzed she doesn't really know what she believes, and so he has made it his personal mission to find a religion for her among the 562 ones that existed before the Lord Ruler's ascension.

[Stephen Walker]

Does he do this through the whole book? Because that would be hilarious.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Oh, he never stops.

[Stephen Walker]

There's gotta be something we can do with to play off of that.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Relentless.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah, he's just. Yeah, I love it.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Well, trilogism is number five that he's pitched. And Vin says that she'll pass. You see, Sayzed is a Keeper. And different keepers specialize in different areas of study. Sayzed is religion. And his reason behind this chosen specialty is rather noble.

[Stephen Walker]

I feel like we're building a Quidditch team right now because we already have a Seeker and now we have a Keeper.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

A smoker. Like, low key. Sounds like it could be.

[Stephen Walker]

That's just the guy who's like, oh, we're losing. So he's just puffing in the corner. He doesn't have a real role other.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Than lose it, people. We gotta pick it up.

[Stephen Walker]

Up. He's also an old lady, apparently.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Quote, the final empire cannot last forever. Sazed said quietly, I do not know if Master Kelsier will be the one who finally brings its end, but that end will come. And when it does, when the Steel Ministry no longer holds sway, men will wish to return to the beliefs of their fathers. On that day they will look to the keepers. And on that day we shall return to mankind his forgotten truths. Dude. But enough about religion. The haircut is done and Vin kinda likes it. Up until now, Vin didn't want to express really any sense of femininity because it put a target on her back. But now she's starting to wonder what it would be like to lean into this just a little bit. Quote you don't want them to think of you as a girl, Rean's voice warned. Yet for once she found herself wanting to ignore that. That voice.

[Stephen Walker]

Hey, once you come into beauty mode, you don't ever want to go back. You know what I'm talking about? Never ever see yourself in beauty mood on tick tock like oh I look great and then you realize it's on you flip it off. Oh God, put that baby back.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Absolutely. Then is kind of starting to think, you know what? Maybe I do want to start spending my Friday nights painting my nails in my room while listening to Girls Just Want to have Fun. We are back in Kelsier's pov. Kelsier is chatting with Sayzed about then and in her training and he wishes that he could train her more and Sayzed gives him a good idea. Have then trained with the different owlmancer members of the crew so she can get a bit more pointed training in each medal, which I think is a pretty good idea. We also get some insight from Kelsier as to how special of an owlmancer Vin might be. Quote Today when we were training we got into a steel push shoving match. The kid has to weigh less than half what I do, but she gave me a decent pummeling any anyway, different people have different strengths in allomancy, Sazed said. Yes, but the variance isn't usually this great, Kelsier said. Plus it took me months and months to learn how to manipulate my pushes and pulls. It's not as easy as it sounds. Even something as simple as pushing yourself up onto a rooftop requires an understanding of weight, balance and trajectory. But Vin, she seems to know all these things instinctively. True, she can only use the first four medals with any skill, but the progress she's made is amazing.

[Stephen Walker]

This type of magic system wouldn't be the one I would pick for myself if I got to pick any sort of magic system. It's too much learning.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

I agree.

[Stephen Walker]

Give me a wand and some can do attitude.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

I do. Yeah. And there is a lot. There's just so much nuance it's almost.

[Stephen Walker]

Like the real world to a certain extent.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah, exactly. There's some guilt with Kelsier about involving them in all this. There's a high likelihood that she'll end up dying, just like the rest of the crew with this job job. But they still have to try. It's time for Vin to attend her first ball, and Sayzed will be right by her side. Quote I will protect her with my life, Master Kelsier. I promise you this. This is why I love Sayzed.

[Stephen Walker]

Unless he has ulterior motives. But you already have spilled the beans on that because you still like him.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Learning from you in this show, Stephen, that you have some trust issues, my friend.

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah, this is not therapy 101 with me and you. This is let's read a book and.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Have fun and we get a little hint that there be more to Sayzed than meets the eye. Quote Kelsier smiled, resting a thankful hand on Sayzed's shoulder. I feel pity for the man who gets in your way. Sayzed bowed his head humbly. He looked innocuous, but Kelsier knew the strength that Sazed hid. Few men, Alamancers or not, would farewell in a fight with a keeper whose anger had been roused. That was probably why the Ministry had hunted the sect virtually to extinction. All right, Steven, it is time. Time for the final epigraph of the episode, chapter 10.

[Stephen Walker]

It amazes me how many nations have united behind our purpose. They're still dissenters, of course, and some kingdoms, regrettably, have fallen to wars that I could not stop. Still, this general unity is glorious, even humbling to contemplate. I wish the nations of mankind hadn't required such a dire threat to make them see the value of peace and cooperation. Who said that? That's my question. I just want to yell that every time I read these freaking things. Who said that?

[Fantasy Fangirls Media Network Announcer]

That.

[Stephen Walker]

Why did you say it? When is it coming? Don't throw that in there randomly before the chapter, because it has nothing to do with it. Or does it? It's all going to come together like a puzzle.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Vin arrives at a soup kitchen in the Scos slums, and she's not here for soup. She's here to continue her training in emotional almancy with Breeze. Breeze tells Vin that emotional almancy isn't just about pulling on emotions. It's about manipulating people and understanding someone's initial emotional state. So? So if somebody is skeptical and you try to turn them into chuckles McGee, you're not going to have much success. They're going to realize they're being manipulated. Anyways, after a short time, Hamm joins them, and what comes next is a hilarious exchange. Ham, ever the philosopher, poses a question. By overthrowing the final empire, are we doing something good or are we doing something bad? And Breeze is not interested. He is not a fan of Ham's philosophical musings and tells Vin not to encourage. Encourage him.

[Stephen Walker]

Honestly, this kind of took Breeze down a peg. Just a peg for me, because I would have invited that philosophical question or that conversation because I like diving into things like that.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Well, see, to me, I just love the Ham and Breeze dynamic together. I'm not super interested in them as individual characters, but seeing their banter back and forth and how annoyed that Breeze gets with him is so funny to me.

[Stephen Walker]

That is funny, too. You don't like Breeze as a character?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

No, I like him, but it's.

[Stephen Walker]

You just said you didn't like him by themselves.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Well, no, I'm saying I don't love them. Like, I'm not. I'm not as interested in them as.

[Stephen Walker]

Someone, like, sold on them. You're all about that Cesar. What's his name? Say Sayed. Say less.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Ham's argument is, hey, isn't the Lord Ruler God? To which Breeze responds, no, he's known as just a piece of God because he is, quote, the sliver of infinity. But Ham asserts that if God decides what is right or wrong, who are they to overthrow him? And this conversation is capped off with him saying, saying, quote, do you see the problem? And Breeze saying, I see an idiot.

[Stephen Walker]

This is why he's great.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

But the debate is over because Kelsier has arrived. Breeze and Ven watch from a peephole in their room as Kel begins a meeting with a group of scob that he's trying to enlist in the rebellion army. And what happens next is super cool. Breeze has soothers and rioters mixed amongst the crowd, and Breeze is communicating with them by way of sending out servers wearing different colors, indicating which emotion they are supposed to latch onto and manipulate. The soothers will calm certain emotions that are unhelpful to the cause, while the rioters will inflame the ones that they want to be more pronounced. What comes next is a bit like a conductor controlling a symphony. As Kelsier goes through his speech, Breeze prompts his owlmancers to gently push and pull on various emotions. And the grand finale culminates with Kelsier revealing the scars on his arm.

[Stephen Walker]

Arms.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Quote, the Lord Ruler is not our God, he said softly, and he cannot kill Me. He tried. But he failed. For I am the thing that he can never kill. The mission is a success. The ska leave in awe, passionate about what they just heard. The emotions may fade, but at least with this, the memories they have of this moment will remain imprinted on their minds.

[Stephen Walker]

So he's having. He's just. He's swaying all these scar to try to get him on their side because they have to defeat this 20,000 army that Lord Ruler has. Right?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Exactly. We're back in Kelsier's pov. Kelsier is on the roof of Clubs Shop looking at Kredic Shaw, the Lord Ruler's palace and he's joined by my boy Sazed. The two of them begin discussing why the Lord Ruler has subjugated the terrorist people and Sayzed believes it's because he is afraid of the keepers. Quote he fears the keepers. Sayzed said Definitely and inexplicably. Perhaps it is because of our powers. We are not owlmancers but something else, something unknown to him that seems like it could be important down the line.

[Stephen Walker]

Folks, I feel like this is you telling us it is important.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Let's keep an eye on that one. The conversation moves to another religion pitch from Sayzed.

[Stephen Walker]

Here he goes again.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

You know, looking back at this, I I'm realizing how much you will just not shut the up about these religions.

[Stephen Walker]

It's like that one relative every time you go to see, I'm like hey, I got some books you got to read. I don't want to read them.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

But Sayzed is like the complete polar opposite of your your drunk uncle at Thanksgiving. Yeah, it doesn't quite fit what Kell is looking for though. He says he doesn't know what he believes right now. Quote but overthrowing the final empire seems like a good start. Are there any religions on your list that include the slaughter of noblemen as a holy duty? Sayzed frowned disapprovingly. Quote I do not believe so, Master Kelsier. To which Kelsier says maybe I should found one. We are back in Vin's pov. Alright. We are moving to another crew meeting before things settle in. Vin is chatting or at least trying to chat with Lesta Borns, Club's nephew, who speaks in the unintelligible Eastern slang that we met earlier. As a meeting starts, it's a bit of a downer. Turns out recruitment for the army isn't quite going as well as they had hoped. They've only been able to recruit 2,000 men Ben in the past 12 weeks and there's the issue of infiltrating the Ministry, which is proving very difficult. But Ven has an idea. Remember the con that Cayman planned on pulling? Well, now they're going to try to slip Marsh in among the other Ministry acolytes like they were trying to do earlier in the book. We then get a quick mention that rumor of this 11th medal that Kelsier has is starting to spread on the streets. Essentially, the crew isn't exactly laying low, and there's some concern that the Lord Ruler would catch wind of this and crest them. But everything is interrupted as a guard comes in and delivers a message that the Ministry has found Cayman's lair, the one where they first met at. And that is where we'll leave off today's episode. Okay, Stephen, it is time for our Winners and losers of the week. I'm gonna let you go first, Stephen. Give me your winner.

[Stephen Walker]

Okay. The winner, I think, is Kelsier. I didn't want to say that because that's obvious, but I just like the way he's. He's responding and treating Vin Damsel. He doesn't seem to have any weird motives or anything like that concerning her. I think he is using her to a certain extent, but I still feel like he cares about her. So I'm gonna give him the win because he's like the perfect example of being a non toxic man.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah.

[Stephen Walker]

So I'll give him the win. The loser is probably just me. It's. It's pork meat. Mr. Ham. I don't trust Mr. Ham.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Really?

[Stephen Walker]

Yeah. I. I don't know why. Maybe it's just the way he was saying something. Okay. There's a scene where he's with Vin Damsel, right?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah.

[Stephen Walker]

And she's coming out of her room and she's trying to hide from him. And I think it's in one of the earlier chapters that we talked about today, maybe chapter six. But he says there's no need to hide from us. We're all family. Or something like. But just the way maybe. Maybe I am Vin. I feel like I'm Vin in this story. I don't trust anybody right now. Interesting, because I've been hurt before, but I don't trust Ham. I feel like, well, this is a prediction for later, but. But I'll just say for now, I feel like he's the loser, at least in my mind, because I don't trust him. And I don't know if that's me being me or if there's something there that the author wants me to Pick.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

That is quite the harsh assessment of Ham for us knowing very little about him to this point.

[Stephen Walker]

Well, something smells porky about him.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Fair enough. So my winner of the week, this winner and loser situation I'm doing for the week is the most biased I will ever be when handing out these awards. My winner is Sayzed.

[Stephen Walker]

Of course. Everyone knew that. Many. You start talking about it, oh, the winner is going to be Sayzed.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

No real reason. He's just my baby boy, and I love him so much. Loser goes to Cayman. Here we were. We thought we were done with him, and now we get one last reminder of him with the lair getting discovered. So, essentially, I have made a resolution that anytime Cayman is mentioned in a stretch of chapter characters, he will automatically be getting the loser of that episode by default. Okay, Stephen, it is time for my favorite part of the episode. It is time for you to look into your foggy, foggy crystal ball and let us know what you think is going to happen next.

[Stephen Walker]

As clear as mud right now, buddy. Okay. Like I said, Ham. I feel like ham. Mr. Pork is something. I feel like he's working for the High King, Lord Face Man. Or he just. There's something bad going on. He's doing something again. Maybe it's me. Maybe I'm also trying to impose that on a character because I feel like that's coming at some point in time.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Okay.

[Stephen Walker]

Somebody's betraying somebody. I'm saying it's Mr. Pork. Also, Kelsier, I feel like his relationship with the Lord Ruler is better than he's perceiving it to be, in that he knows more about him or the Lord Ruler knows more about him. Because at some point, he says, I'm gonna go meet with him in one of these previous chapters. And that. I don't know, that led me to believe that. That maybe there's something else going on there. They're not as at odds as we would like to think.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Okay.

[Stephen Walker]

Also, I think they're going to go search for the 11th metal, because so far, they don't know where it is, right?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

No, he has it.

[Stephen Walker]

He has it. Yeah, but he's just like, a sample. He wants more of it.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

In theory, that's all he should need.

[Stephen Walker]

Oh, so the little thing he presented at The.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Is the first. Is supposed to. Supposed to be. Yeah, the. The 11th metal.

[Stephen Walker]

Well, then I definitely think he's lying now. Wow.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Okay.

[Stephen Walker]

This is a piece of petrified wood he found in the backyard.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Okay.

[Stephen Walker]

And look at this cool wood. This metal. I mean, I don't think That's a real thing. And if it is a real thing, he doesn't have it.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Okay, this is interesting. You did far more poorly than you did in the first episode. I'm gonna be honest. I'm going to give. I'm gonna say you're 5% correct.

[Stephen Walker]

Oh, good lord. Is that because I have one word right?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

You have the spirit of something. Spirit in there.

[Stephen Walker]

The spirit of a winner. But the mentality and reality.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

Yeah, I liked your. I liked your mentality on this.

[Stephen Walker]

Am I doing what should be done in that I'm questioning certain things in general?

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

No, you're absolutely doing the right thing. You're just not doing it the right way.

[Stephen Walker]

I feel like I'm discovering more about myself that I am. Like, Vin, what I need is a is a makeover is what it sounds like. After this, I'm going to paint my nails and get my hair did and perhaps be more trusting.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

If only we could all be Mia Thermopolis. Okay, everybody, that is it for episode two of our deep dive of Mistborn.

[Stephen Walker]

Hey, and if you like this, go ahead and check out our interview with Pierce Brown, the Pierce Brown right now on our feed. And episode three will be coming out Wednesday, November 12th. Also, please be sure to give us a five star rating and review on your podcast platform and give us a follow on Instagram and tick tock at Fantasy Fanfellas.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

And lastly, if you loved this episode and you have any friends who you have been begging to take the Sanderson plunge, go ahead and share this episode with them. It may be just the steel push they need. Okay, see you next episode for chapters 11 through 15.

[Stephen Walker]

Bye bye.

[Fantasy Fangirls Media Network Announcer]

Oh my goodness. Isn't this such a great time? We hope you enjoyed this episode of Fantasy Fanfellas.

[Hayden (Fantasy Fanfellas Host)]

If you want to listen to more episodes, check them out on the Fantasy Fan Fellas podcast feed. Link is in the show notes. That's also where you can find Hayden and Steven's interview with Pierce Brown, author of Red Rising.

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