Goodbye Onyx Storm LIVE Q&A

Summary

Podcast Summary: Fantasy Fangirls – "Goodbye Onyx Storm LIVE Q&A"

Episode Details:

• Title: Goodbye Onyx Storm LIVE Q&A
• Release Date: April 28, 2025
• Series Covered: Onyx Storm by Rebecca Yarros (Entire Empyrean Series Spoilers)

Overview: In this heartfelt and comprehensive live Q&A session, hosts Nicole and Lexi bid farewell to their coverage of Rebecca Yarros' Onyx Storm, concluding with Episode 12. This episode delves deep into fan questions, exploring intricate theories, character developments, and pivotal plot points of the Empyrean series. As they wrap up their extensive journey through the books, Nicole and Lexi offer valuable insights and engage with their audience's burning questions, ensuring both long-time fans and newcomers gain a thorough understanding of the series' complexities.

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Key Discussions and Insights

Endgame Relationships: Violet and Zaden

One of the most frequently discussed topics was the relationship between Violet and Zaden. Fans speculated whether they are destined to be together till the end of the series.

• Lexi (05:20): "I think Onyx Storm solidified more than anything that they are endgame... these two just love each other so deeply and will go to the ends of the earth for one another."

• Nicole (05:56): "I think that matter what it is going to be, they are together together. If anything, the marriage at the end really, really solidified it."

The hosts agree that Violet and Zaden’s bond is unbreakable, emphasizing the profound love that Rebecca Yarros has crafted between them.

The Pattern of Three and Symbolism

Nicole revisits the recurring theme of threes in the series, linking it to the lore and character motivations.

• Nicole (07:52): "The pattern of three... a Venin sage desiccated an entire city with the exception of her husband and two children. Violet is understanding that Venon will protect those they love."

This pattern underscores the protective instincts of key characters, especially in the face of conflict.

Character Theories and Future Plot Points

The sisters tackle numerous fan theories about upcoming books, particularly focusing on Book Four and Five.

• Questions on Empyrean Dragons:

  • Are All Empyrean Dragons the Big Bad?
    Lexi (22:49): "I don't think anything is so black and white with good versus bad. It's going to be a balance with different perspectives of dragons."

  • Will there be a Dragon Book?
    Nicole (24:55): "I think book four is gonna be the big Empyrean book to set up for the war in book five."

The hosts discuss the complexity of dragon characters, suggesting that they won't fit neatly into categories of good or evil, adding depth to the narrative.

• Speculations on Key Deaths:
  • Nicole (48:58): "I think it's gonna be Taryn. There's so much buildup about if Violet dies, Taryn dies."
  • Lexi (50:20): "I'm worried about Riddick. Mina or Brennan might be at risk."

They anticipate significant character losses to propel the story forward, with Taryn being a likely candidate due to narrative buildup.

The Gods and Dedications

The role of deities within the series was another prominent topic.

• Discussion on Dedications:
  • Nicole (64:14): "I don't think they're sentient, but they could inspire visions or dreams, similar to Dumbledore in Harry Potter."
  • Lexi (64:24): "I think Violet could be fully dedicated to Dune, enhancing her abilities and tying deeper into the lore."

The hosts explore the mystical aspects of the series, pondering how gods influence events and character actions without being directly involved.

Bonds and Memory Manipulation

A critical plot point involves the breaking of bonds between characters, with implications for memory and power dynamics.

• Nicole (30:09): "I think Segal broke the bond with Zaden... potentially, Taryn is exhausted from the bond."
• Lexi (31:44): "Maybe Taryn and Sigal were fighting to help the elders instead of killing them."

They discuss the complexities of magical bonds and their impact on relationships and character development.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Nicole (00:00): "When you refresh how you see things, the world can be a more vibrant place."
  (Note: This is part of the ad segment and not included in content summary)

• Lexi (05:20): "These two just love each other so deeply and will go to the ends of the earth for one another."
  (Discussing Violet and Zaden's relationship)

• Nicole (07:52): "The pattern of three... Venon will protect those they love."
  (Symbolism in the series)

• Lexi (22:49): "I don't think anything is so black and white with good versus bad."
  (Discussing dragons' moral complexities)

• Nicole (24:55): "Book four is gonna be the big Empyrean book to set up for the war in book five."
  (Future plot directions)

• Nicole (48:58): "I think it's gonna be Taryn. There's so much buildup about if Violet dies, Taryn dies."
  (Speculating character deaths)

• Lexi (64:24): "I think Violet could be fully dedicated to Dune, enhancing her abilities."
  (Discussing gods' influence)

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Concluding Thoughts

Nicole and Lexi wrap up the Q&A by expressing both excitement and nostalgia as they conclude their deep dive into Onyx Storm. They hint at upcoming series transitions, such as the Kinder's Curse saga, and share tidbits about future interviews and fan club updates. The episode closes with warm acknowledgments to their team and listeners, reinforcing the community spirit that defines the Fantasy Fangirls podcast.

Final Takeaway: This live Q&A episode serves as a fitting end to the Fantasy Fangirls' extensive exploration of Onyx Storm. By addressing fan theories, dissecting character arcs, and pondering future developments, Nicole and Lexi provide a thorough and engaging summary that enriches the listener's understanding and appreciation of the Empyrean series.

Transcript

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[Lexi]

Today's live Q and A is in honor of wrapping up our Onyx Storm coverage and Nicole and I are going to be recording episode 12, the very last one on Monday so it's so exciting. And then tomorrow for Dragon Riders and Iron Squad you all get the episode 11 so it's so much fun. Okay, well we are of course as always going to got to give our content warning. Spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers. For the Imperium series including all of Onyx Storm, this live Q and A will be recorded like always so you can Tune in later if you need to. And as an FYI, we are going to be releasing this particular Q and a on Monday, April 28 to the public. It's the first time we've ever done it. And I'll be honest, as a quick peek behind the scenes, it's mostly because Nicole and I need an extra week of prep for our new Deep Dive series and we need to fill that week with something. So it says just to plug this in there.

[Nicole]

So.

[Lexi]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

And I've seen a few people being like, I'm so sad. This is the last time we're talking about Onyx Storm. We got X amount of years to wait for book four. Trust me, this will not be the last time we're talking in period in those years. We will definitely be back. Oh, my goodness.

[Lexi]

Yes. Oh my. In fact, we were even talking about it together because it's like. Oh, like, especially once when you get to the last episode, it's like trying to just stuff everything you possibly can in there. And it's like we have to keep reminding ourselves that some opinions are going to evolve even from, for instance, when we're talking, like when we're outlining like who the brother contenders are. I actually have a lot more to say just from kind of other things that we've learned since then, especially about arc and even Brennan. I'm gonna have an argument for Brennan. So.

[Nicole]

Are you really?

[Lexi]

Yes. Yes.

[Nicole]

Oh, how interesting. Oh, y'all. I'm so excited to talk about Luther. I cannot even express to you. So Lexi and I a little bit, but peek behind the scenes. We're in a few days, we're gonna be going through basically all of our Spark episodes kind of looking, looking at like the map of the outline because we are going to be doing things a little bit differently but we're not gonna share why yet or how we're prepping by listening to Spark the Ever Flame and I'm just here like kicking my feet. Time. Luther comes on screen. I'm so excited. Screen on earlier this morning.

[Lexi]

Earlier this morning, I. No spoilers. I listened to the foot massage scene and all I could do is think of you.

[Nicole]

I will be sweating my little daylights out by the through that scene. Anyway.

[Lexi]

Yeah, we're not talking about that yet. Anyway, so today is again Onyx Storm. We have some fantastic pre selected questions that we're going to pull here and we're going to try to get to more than usual again because today is going to be a lot long, longer than we usually have. That one hour. And if you all are familiar when you have your when you type in your question, please put in capital letters question right before it. That way Peyton, who's in the background here, it's our very first time. So yay. Everybody congratulate Peyton for her first one. It helps her be able to start so that we can then answer those questions.

[Nicole]

Hooray for the sanity manager. Sanity manager. So happy she's here. Oh my God. Let's get into some of the pre selected questions that you all submitted prior to this and that is did Onyx Storm strengthen or weaken your belief that Violet and Zaden are endgame? If you're going to make a bet right now or if you were going to die on this hill, which way would it go? Lexi, kick it off.

[Lexi]

I think Onyx Storm solidified more than anything that they are end game. I know that you know he's in a little bit of a predicament by the end of the book and they're not together. But also I can't help but think about what Rebecca has said where it's like when you do have one romance for five books, you got to have lots of conflict. And Zaden being Venom is definitely conflict. So I definitely think they're endgame. Exactly what that endgame will look like. I'm not exactly sure. But I think that these two just love each other so deeply and will go to the ends of the earth for one another, literally. And yeah, that's all I can imagine.

[Nicole]

I'm very in agreement with you. I think that it really just depends on what endgame looks like. Does that mean they are together until the ends of their lives? Does that mean they are together until the end of the series? We don't know. But I definitely think matter what it is going to be, they are together together. If anything, the marriage at the end really, really solidified it. But I will say the thing that probably like locked it into place is actually the pattern of three. I keep going back to that from our deep dive and in case you haven't listened to that episode yet, there's this moment right before the chair scene that Violet is doing some reading of a book that Takara sent her and she says that makes three. And we don't know what the three is. But Lexi and I did some sleuthing and the epigraph to that very chapter is a passage from a book that Venin and it's basically saying how a Venin sage desiccated an entire city with the exception of her husband. And we assume her two children. So what we're assuming from that is that Violet is understanding that like Venon, out of no matter what level, they are still going to protect the ones they love. And if anything, I don't know if you saw this when we were doing when we're doing the outline for episode 12, there's a moment where theophany is like we don't feel love and Violet is like I know you do though. And so it's just moments like that. So. So going back to the endgame question, yes, I think they're 100% endgame, especially with that knowledge in our back.

[Lexi]

Also, several people are commenting and I agree. I feel like Rebecca has said in some interview or several interviews really alluded to they are in game. There is no book without Xaden. I can't remember which interview that was. So if anybody knows which one it is, please let us know. But yeah, yeah, I see that.

[Nicole]

Well and also any most romance books which yes, I know this is in the fantasy realm, but like most romance books do have a happily ever after. It's not really sure what that happily ever after is. Sometimes it's them together, sometimes it's them apart. But one of the person who's like who we're POV ing is coming to terms that we're better apart or yada yada.

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[Lexi]

So we were about this one. Since October.

[Nicole]

We have. Yes, yes.

[Lexi]

This actually was before the. We were invited to do the one in. In February. And it's so funny because we were like, are they like, we. They're asking us to interview her twice in one year. Like, I kept thinking that they were gonna like pull it from us or something like that.

[Nicole]

We kept on being like, there's no way that this is too good to be true. They're gonna be like, you can't have this many interviews. But okay, so did you keep that a secret?

[Lexi]

It was so hard.

[Nicole]

It was near impossible. That was so difficult. Can you tell us more about why King Tari is called King Tari? That's one that I feel like she would. She would answer maybe.

[Lexi]

Yes, hopefully.

[Nicole]

Why were the Crowlish uprising. That's one I don't think she would answer. Like, what made the Crowlish so angry that they uprose.

[Lexi]

Oh, I. I was just under the impression that they just didn't want to be part of their. Part of poor meal and they wanted to be their own kingdom.

[Nicole]

Possibly that that would probably. Then maybe she would answer it. I don't know. Oh, here. This is one she would definitely not. Not answer. The throne scene. Was that Xaden or Violet's power?

[Lexi]

Yes, that is definitely a top question that I don't think she would answer.

[Nicole]

Definitely.

[Lexi]

We're still gonna ask. Yeah, I made it. I made a comment during the interview about how saying that we should make this a drinking game with her just saying no. And somebody calculated. I'm so. I think there's somebody in our discord. I can't remember who it was. I'm so sorry. Calculated it and it was something like we would have like, had to take eight shots and we would.

[Nicole]

I would have dead. Died on that stage. Here's another one that I.

[Lexi]

Why does Dane have so much power? That's another. Really?

[Nicole]

That's another one. Yeah. Can you elaborate on the meaning of my magic? Likes all things in balance. I think she would. I think Answer that one. Does Bodhi have a thing for Violet? I think she would. She would probably not answer that if it's true. She would answer it if it's not true.

[Lexi]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Nicole]

What is one thing you're absolutely sure we're going to get in book 4? So much so that you would die on the hill?

[Lexi]

You go first, Nicole. I really want to see everyone else's answers too.

[Nicole]

Oh, dream sex.

[Lexi]

That's.

[Nicole]

I will die on the hill that we are getting dream sex next book. Absolutely no question in my mind that is happening. Thank you, Jensen. Dreams.

[Lexi]

One thing that I think we're absolutely gonna get. Mira and Drake.

[Nicole]

Oh, that's a good one too. Yes, yes.

[Lexi]

And Drake. Those 12 hours. Yes.

[Nicole]

I'm actually not sure we're gonna get every detail of them. I think we're going to get bits and bobs in book four and then the rest of the bobs in book five.

[Lexi]

I was originally going to say maybe we get more about General Darrymore, but I could see that being a book five reveal. Honestly, I. I could see it.

[Nicole]

Here's what I. I can't remember if I actually said this on the episode. I think at the end of book four, we're going to get the reveal of General Darrymore and then Violet is somehow going to end up in General Darrymore's clutches at the end.

[Lexi]

Yeah, I can see that too.

[Nicole]

Absolutely. Pirates.

[Lexi]

Yes. You all know me so well. I love it.

[Nicole]

Oh, my gosh. Oh, and another thing. I.

[Lexi]

The final Garrick. Oh, yeah, wherever. If Garrick returns because he is one of the missing people. More information about what and Darna did while she was gone. Yes. Dane and Sloan. That is another fantastic one.

[Nicole]

I think we're definitely going to get some kind of battle on the province of Caldia and Tyrandor border, especially with Halden. I think that that could be Halden's demise. Who knows?

[Lexi]

Oh, that would be nice.

[Nicole]

That would be delicious.

[Lexi]

The compass.

[Nicole]

If we don't get the compass in book four and it. And it's not until book five that we get it. I will riot. Riot.

[Lexi]

Corden finally falling.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God. It has to. It's the New Isle kingdoms. Every. Every other sentence I feel like it's mentioned. Cordon's falling.

[Lexi]

You know what? Let's pause the pre questions here and let's jump to some of all of your questions because I'm seeing we got 43 so far, so let's tackle a few of them.

[Nicole]

Let's do this one from the. From the Top. This was from a while ago. What was your favorite episode to record of Onyx Storm? I think that.

[Lexi]

They all kind of blend together.

[Nicole]

So it's so funny because every episode, as Lexi and I are mapping out the outlines. Excuse me. As we're mapping out the chapter by chapters that we're going to be covering for the show and all this kind of stuff, we break down the chapters, and then I break down, like, a general list of things that. This is what happens in this chapter stretch. And I bowled the big things that happened. And there was only one chapter stretch that not really a whole lot had bolded, except for one thing, and that is the chair scene. And that somehow ended up being probably one of my favorite episodes, y'all. There is so much on the cutting room floor of that episode that Lexi and I were just going banana. Like, poor Hayden in the background was, like, messaging us, being like, I just got to part four. What is happening? That was a fun one.

[Lexi]

I think my favorite might have been about just like, Papa Sorrengail. It was just so satisfying to be able to talk about that. And it really hasn't been like. I feel like I talked about. I was able to insert him in, like, every other episode before, like, an iron flame and such. And with this one, it was kind of like a lot of, like, upfront stuff. And now I haven't talked about him very much lately, especially about him and his research, because it's kind of like, okay, the book is sort of mostly closed on that. Not entirely, but so I. I'd say that episode where it was just like the second Crovlin Uprising and just all of the Papa Sor and Gail research glory. Not the slide whistle.

[Nicole]

Not the slide. No, actually. Okay, quick behind the scenes. So the slide whistle gave us all a headache, like, so not very difficult to record.

[Lexi]

So how. What did you end up having to do?

[Nicole]

So hold. Hold, please. Because I actually have my slide whistle right here because I keep it in my desk so I don't. Can you hear it?

[Lexi]

Oh, yeah, I can hear it now.

[Nicole]

So on the recording devices that we were using previously to the new one that we're doing now, which is Riverside, I was doing the slide whistle and you couldn't hear it. So poor Hayden had to use a cut that I recorded on my phone of me doing the slide whistle and insert it over me performing it within the show. And poor dude almost murdered me that week. Lovingly. It worked out so well. Like, it did work out well. It was amazing. Oh, my God. It was the Slide whistle appearance was not on my bingo card for today. Oh my gosh.

[Lexi]

What did, what did Rebecca told you about Sloan and Dane? Reddit is going insane.

[Nicole]

So backstage. Backstage. So for those of you who were not our Q and A where we discussed some things from, from that backstage experience, Rebecca literally looked at us and said what off the record questions do you want to ask us? Do you want to ask? And some of them we can share, some of them we can't. This one we can because she did confirm that Dana Sloan are canon, that they're definitely going to be more of a thing. She didn't really say how or like if it's going to be fully on the page or anything like that. But she did confirm absolutely. That they're happening and that she's had them planned for a while, I believe. Yeah, that sounds right.

[Lexi]

But yeah, she just confirmed the two of them. So yeah.

[Nicole]

Yes. Yeah. Wait. Yep, Reddit is, the Reddit is throwing me off. I'm going to need some links later.

[Lexi]

I don't go to Reddit because I'm always scared about what said about. I avoid that stuff very much.

[Nicole]

So honestly, I'm so grateful that you do.

[Lexi]

I know because otherwise Nicole always knows if I went in and found things that were.

[Nicole]

Because she calls me and she's like, I need a pep talk. And I'm like, oh dear. This is a question from Nicole. How do you think the irides will come back into play in books, books four and five? Well, okay, so I have two different answers to this. One is if they are with Andarna at the end of book four or at the end of, excuse me, book three and they just came back with her and they're going to be more incorporated. I could see them kind of having a head to head with the Empyrean. Really, really butting heads on politics and butting heads on how things should be done and all that kind of stuff. If that is not the case and Leothen and co did not come back with Andarna, then I actually don't see them coming back into play until probably book five.

[Lexi]

Yeah, we still don't know how Andarna was able to burn the venin and how her magic feels different when she changes her scales. So I don't know. I, I. Do you still think that the irides came back with Andarna and that was the shadows moving so. Because I know you were very on board with that. That might be another one of my favorite fun theories of yours.

[Nicole]

When I, when I started that part of the outline. I went ham on that section. And then because we always do this, I like to look at different options and what are other theories and yada, yada, yada. I saw another one that I was like, oh, crap. I actually. And then as I was like divulging it onto the outline, I think I gaslit myself into believing that one more than the earth one. So I don't know. I'm gonna say it's 5050 right now.

[Lexi]

Okay. Ooh, I like Madison's idea here that Leo then will be the peacemaker between irides and the imperium. I can definitely see that too. I think that he, he in particular will play a larger role as well. And I could see the iridescent, especially towards the end because it'll be very interesting to see how the world ends up after all of this. Like everything is like history is being written here. And I think that a lot is going to change in the continent. And I could see the ear aids having some hand at that there.

[Nicole]

Totally. I still call him. Can't get away from the first video recap. It's okay. We do too. Sometimes Lexi has to pause and recorrect herself before she says Leo thing. A quick message from today's sponsor, Hungryroot.

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[Nicole]

Yeah. Yes, agreed. I think it's gonna cause a big headache for the Empyrean. There's gonna be a little bit of a jumbled, maybe not mess, but a bit of a jumbled, like, kind of regrouping at the beginning of book four, because three Elders in Oracia have now died, which means three Elder dragons of those same dens have now been upgraded to Elder status. So I'm going to be really curious what the Elders, or, excuse me, what the dens are. So, like, was it orange and red and, I don't know, green? Like, we don't know. So I'm going to say it's not black, but it might be, because then Taran would be an Elder.

[Lexi]

But we hold on now because that's interesting because him and Koda are the only two grown black dragons. Several more have hatched since then. But Coda is the Elder of the Empyrean at Bisgaeth. And. But we have not gotten any hint that that Tarin is for the other Empyrean. So maybe there isn't the same Kind of formal hierarchy. They just have their own elders.

[Nicole]

I'm gonna add that to the list of questions to ask.

[Lexi]

All right. Along the Empyrean lines here from Alyssa. Do you think the Empyrean are the ultimate big bat?

[Nicole]

So a little bit of context behind this question, because I think this is where. Where the line of thinking is. In Fourth Wing, there's this line from the fabled Fables of the Baron where it's basically warning people against the ill intent of dragons. There we go. I'm paraphrasing entirely. So there has been some theories of being like, why would dragons need that kind of warning sign, basically? Especially if Papa Sorrengill is the one who wrote the Fables of the Baron and gave it to Violet. I. I can see it too. But do I think that they're going to be the Big Bad? No, I think that the Big Bad is going to stay Venon. But I do think that there's going to be some kind of, like, maybe there's dragons working on the Venn inside. Maybe that's how Wyvern are created through, like, Panchak's dragon.

[Lexi]

What is up with that? I'm very hung up on it.

[Nicole]

That's also a question we have on here. How did Panchex dragon feel about him passing information to the Venon? Yes.

[Lexi]

Yes. I. I don't think that there's. It's so black and white with, like, them being bad or not bad. Yeah. Like, for instance, quite a few people in the comments here that they're not the Big Bad, but they're not necessarily the good guys. Now, I do think that it's going to be. It's a little bit torn. We already know that some dragons really do think that they should go after the Venin and that they should, you know, like, help everybody else. And then there are other dragons who don't believe that and they want to stay within the Nevarian Wars. Corrupt. Yeah. Like, so I. I don't think that anything is so black and white with good versus bad. And that's something that Rebecca really does emphasize in her writing as a theme where, for, like, I think Lilith is a great example where she was not necessarily a good person character, like, you know, like, with her values and things like that, but she was still in her own way, you know, like, it's never like that. So, yeah, I think that it's. It's going to be very much a balance and especially just the different perspectives of dragons, and it's going to kind of come to a head here.

[Nicole]

Absolutely.

[Lexi]

Yeah. We just know so little and they are so secretive. Yes, indeed.

[Nicole]

I really hope. I think I was saying this about book three, but I really hope book four is the dragon book. I hope we get all the info on the dragons and Darn is changing colors because that's mentioned once and then never again, which drives me crazy. I think that if anything, book four is going to be the big empyrean book to set up for the war in book five. I could see that.

[Lexi]

Yeah. Yeah. Let's see here. Oh, my gosh. There's so. Okay, so Claire asks, have you cracked how the dragons can lie about their full name? I'm still so confused by this idea, honestly. Me too. I. All that Rebecca said is that dragons can lie when they are giving their names. So that's. That's all that we know. And I just think that especially for the more common dragons, they have lied and it's still very confusing. I'm sorry I'm not more helpful.

[Nicole]

The way I took her answer is, let's say I'm on the flight field. I have my dragon, My dragon has bonded. My dragon was bonded to my mother or whatever. And I'm going to give my dragon's name to the role keeper. And the dragon says, my name is actually this, but tell them my name is blank. So it's a new name that they're telling me to give it, but I know that it is the same dragon that my mom had. So I think that the marked ones would be in the know, but they would be divulging and keeping the secret for the dragon. That's my understanding.

[Lexi]

Yes.

[Nicole]

Yes. I have this one from Bookish Girl. If you could assign one second signet to a character, what would it be and who would you sign assign it to? I probably want to assign it to someone with a mind signet because then they could do something more offensive on the battlefield. And my mind immediately goes to Dane. Who have I become? Oh, my God. By the way, I like your shirt.

[Lexi]

I just noticed you're wearing your Quest Squad shirt.

[Nicole]

Thank you. It has broccoli on the back.

[Lexi]

Of course it does. Dane was somebody who came to mind immediately for me as well. Riddick is definitely another person. I don't think that he does have a second signet, but I do think that would be really fun if he did.

[Nicole]

Bode is something people said. I forgot about Bode. But that's okay. Everyone does. Except for apparently Jordan.

[Lexi]

Say Mira. I would love mirror to have a second signet.

[Nicole]

Ooh. Okay. That's actually good. I like that a lot. Yeah.

[Lexi]

Yeah. You know what? Signet is flirting. Second sickness. Floating. I love it. You. You know what? I would have Mira's second signet be siphoning, and that way she could really extend the words in such a cool way. Be, like, a power boost for the wards.

[Nicole]

Okay. I actually really like that. If I'm gonna go back to Dane, I think I'm gonna give him something like. Like fire wielding. Like, I. I think he needs something just standard. Like, he doesn't need anything crazy. I just want to give him something stand. I just want him to be a little bit more helpful on the battlefield because apparently he needs it. He got knocked out way too quick, and I'm real. That's why.

[Lexi]

Yeah, I can see him being a metal. The metal wielder, too. Yeah. Sawyer with the second signet. That would be very poetic.

[Nicole]

That would. Yes. Yeah, I like that. I think. And then Bodhi Bodhi having a second signet, I feel like would just. Just destroy his character arc. He needs to not have one so that he's just not as powerful and sad about it.

[Lexi]

I. I do. Like, there is definitely the big theory that he does have a second signet because of that line, and it is very. So secretive that, like, Satan's. You know, so there's. That there's. True. True. Yeah. I just love all these. Like, Dane needs a second, sexy second signet. Like, gfdd. Why do we love him now? Molly, what is a sexy signet?

[Nicole]

Raw sex appeal.

[Lexi]

That's.

[Nicole]

That's Riddick. Second signet is what that is.

[Lexi]

Yes, indeed. Oh, my God. The only one is shadows. That's a sexy second. I love it.

[Nicole]

I don't know. Distance walking is pretty sexy because imagine you could be anywhere in the world, and then poof, you're immediately in, like, a. A good sex place. Just immediately.

[Lexi]

Oh. Molly says that he can strip clothes off with his mind or just considerable, like.

[Nicole]

Oh, that's incredible. Wow.

[Lexi]

Two days at once. Now we're getting very wolf in the.

[Nicole]

That was gonna say this is Wolf and the witch at this point, which, by the way, was one of the scenes that I would have I had as an option for Lexi to read. But, alas, it did not win.

[Lexi]

Aiden says we're all going to horny jail.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God.

[Lexi]

Ooh.

[Nicole]

Hertz says, I think if Dane had a second signet, it would be turning into animals. His last name, Atos, means eagle. I love that idea. I really love that idea.

[Lexi]

Turn it Oops. Nope, I'm not gonna say that because that's a spoiler for another book here. Okay. Okay, here's more. Lots of questions about the ending of the book. So this is actually very, very helpful for us as I need to dive into outlining after this.

[Nicole]

Me too.

[Lexi]

Yes, indeed. Did Segal break the bond with Zaden?

[Nicole]

Okay, so I just finished this part of the outline, but I don't know if you've got in there yet. What are your thoughts here?

[Lexi]

My honest thoughts are I have no. No fucking idea. But that's not my job to say that. So I. I worry. Yes. I think that it's a lot more likely that Sigail broke the bond with Zayden than if Taryn and Sigil broke the bond. I do not think that Taryn and Seagal's bond has been broken.

[Nicole]

I will. I will play devil's advocate for a second because one of the main reasons a lot of people think that Taryn is so exhausted at the end is because he's recovering from a broken mating bond with Sigail and Sigil is nowhere to be found. But that's also unsurprising.

[Lexi]

I. Yeah, because. Because that would. They would have said maybe something about how well Zaden's missing, but, you know, Sigail's here or something like that. I. Oh, that's cool. Alyssa, I think, and Darna blocked it for them not to break it for it. Blocked it for them not broke it. Yeah, Yeah, I could see that.

[Nicole]

I could. Yeah. I don't know.

[Lexi]

I. I do worry. I'm like. Like 70% leaning towards the Gail having broken the bond with Zaden. I do think that Taryn is exhausted because there was another question. Do we think that Sigail and Taran helped kill the elders? I, like, in my heart, I feel like they were trying to protect the elders and it's just all looks like it was Xaden's doing, but it actually wasn't. And they were actually trying to protect the elders or something like that, or the. The other writers. Maybe it was something to do with Berwyn. I'm not exactly sure. But I do think that Taryn and Sigil were fighting to help the elders versus to kill them. I just can't wrap my head around them killing the other dragons.

[Nicole]

I can. And I wrote it in my notes and I don't remember my reasoning, but somewhere in there you'll listen to it in episode 12. I do think that in my opinion, there's two options, really. There's Taryn Excuse me, There's Segal broke the bond with Zaden and now Zaden is off on his own so that Sigail can stay with Taryn. And then option two is Taryn and Sigail broke the bond so that Taryn can stay with Violet, Sigail can go off with Aiden. It's going to entirely depend on how much Sigil wants Zaden to go venom. Because if Sigil goes with Zaden, then she still gives him another power source other than just pulling from the source or still his dragon. But if she says, nope, fuck you, I'm going to stay with Taran, then he's off on his own. And the only power source he can pull from is being Bennett. So I'm actually leaning towards Taran and Seagle broke the bond. Or Taryn is exhausted from maybe like a permanent fracture in the bond. I don't know if. I don't know if it would be broken.

[Lexi]

However, I wonder if he would be tired. I think that Taryn could be tired because. Because he's feeling Sigail having broken the bond with Zaden.

[Nicole]

Possibly. That could definitely be it. Here's what I think. No matter what, all bonds breaking aside. I think in Darna is going to heal whatever bond has been broken. We know from Leo then that she is magic and she can create bonds where there shouldn't be bonds ones. So I think that, yeah, option number three, all bonds are still intact. I don't think that's the case though. But I like your thinking, Kelsey. But I definitely think that in Darna, no matter what, like let's say for instance, Violet and Zaden somehow are broken. Their bond is broken. I do think that is the case. I think eventually. And Darna is going to be the one who heals the bond because she is irrit. She can do it.

[Lexi]

Yes. Yes. So thank you, Kelsey. Kelsey coming in with all that.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lexi]

There is definitely the possibility that Taryn is tired because he was in a fight with the Elders. Taryn has. Taryn and Sigail have both shown that they do prioritize their writers over other dragons. And that was kind of a theme towards the end. Yeah.

[Nicole]

From Ashley. All bonds being intact is too nice for Rebecca Yarrow's writing. Oh, my God.

[Lexi]

Oh, man. Yeah, Rebecca likes to torture us.

[Nicole]

I can't remember if it was on stage with us or a previous interview, but she said, I like to think about what a person could go through. What's the worst thing a person could go through and then put them through that.

[Lexi]

Yes.

[Nicole]

Cool. Rebecca awesome. Also, just so you all know where we are in the W right now, which is how Rebecca Yarrows plants her series and also her books. But right now we're in the the second peak. No, the second dip, excuse me, of the W, which basically means everything's going to shit and it's the worst that worst, worst, worst things can be. So book four is going to be fun.

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[Nicole]

Oh wait. From Caitlin. Do you think Imogen used her sick can use her signet on dragons? Do you think she may have erased Taryn's memories and that's why he's so tired? Possibly, but because Xaden can't use his signet on dragons and he is so popular, I'm leaning towards she can't. But also then that also means next book. Can Taryn just tell Violet what happened the last 12 hours?

[Lexi]

And I was thinking about that too. I could see him saying something along the lines of like, I respect your wishes and you told me not to tell you kind of thing like that. I don't think that people's signets work on dragons because Violet's second signet manifested because she could not. It didn't work on Andarna, so it actually manifested on Zaden. Zaden signet doesn't work on dragons, so I don't think so. But I do love that idea about that's why he is so tired. That, that is a good point. Let's. I think I saw this question here as well. How do we think that Violet will out about what happened in the 12 hours? When we asked Rebecca, she said something along the lines of, well, there were other people there.

[Nicole]

Who.

[Lexi]

There were other people there. And for a while I was like, oh, my gosh. Well, then it must have been Imogen. But Nicole brought up a really good point that Imogen is not, was not one of the missing writers. So she must have been at Arisha. So we don't know. So Violet must have come back to Arisha and that's when she told Imogen, or Imogen must have found her or something like that. So Imogen wouldn't have been there at the wedding.

[Nicole]

Yes. So my guess is the, the people who know are Garrick, Zaden, Bodhi, maybe. I don't know. But if Bodhi is the brother, then he might be off dealing with his shit. I don't know who else it would be because maybe Andarna. I could see and Darna telling Violet what happened because I don't think she.

[Lexi]

I love this idea. The miss 12 hours. I have a theory that they divided up the bits and pieces of the secret so no one holds all the information RSC style. That would be smart.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God. That's actually so good. I love that a lot. I love that a lot. No matter what, I don't think we're gonna get into chapter one of book four. And then, boop, there's the 12 hours. Like, there's no way. I think that's gonna be spread out pretty.

[Lexi]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Throughout books four and maybe even five.

[Lexi]

We'Ve seen several questions about, like, flashbacks too. Do we think that we'll get a flashback of the 12 hours? I hope. I, I, I don't. But there was another question about what bonus chapter would we want from Onyx Storm? It would absolutely 100% be the wedding.

[Nicole]

Okay, but let's say the wedding's off. Actually, I like this question. Let's say the wedding's off the table. What bonus chapter would you want from Onyx Storm if the wedding is totally off the table?

[Lexi]

Dane going in and getting the Papa Storm. Gale's research. Gosh, that happened. Like this book. It's been so long since we talked about that.

[Nicole]

That's so real. Oh, my God.

[Lexi]

I would want the throne scene that you're so no.

[Nicole]

Well, actually, yeah, probably. But that. No, I. No, I think mine would actually be Aaric figuring out what his signet is.

[Lexi]

That would be a really good one. Yes. That would actually be mine too. Yeah. Arc manifesting his signet.

[Nicole]

Yes. But obviously the throne scene that she faded to black, which was rude.

[Lexi]

Was that. Which episode was that? That you were. Was that episode 10?

[Nicole]

Oh, God, I have no idea. Probably, I think.

[Lexi]

And Darna's POV while she was gone? Yes, that would be another fantastic one.

[Nicole]

Yes. Mira. Drake and the Wine. Yes.

[Lexi]

The Adventures of Drake and Broccoli.

[Nicole]

That's just a book. If I got a single scene, I would be like, I need a book.

[Lexi]

I want that to be like a gra. One of the graphic novels.

[Nicole]

Can that be it? I can't wait for these graphic novels. I'm so excited.

[Lexi]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God, a broccoli pov. Absolutely. I would read an entire POV of him just saying, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow. And I would just vibe so hard as Aiden and Dane buying the Devarelli silk. That's amazing. Dane POV getting slapped and having to.

[Lexi]

Thank him or even. Or even Zayden's POV for that. Like, he would have just like the best narration of it.

[Nicole]

So if you guys haven't listened to Lexi and eyes going back the basket.

[Lexi]

How does Halden go poop in the best.

[Nicole]

You know what? I can do without that chapter, actually, now that I think about it. So when we covered Xaden's bonus POV scenes from 4th Wing, his. His narration of what is Dane. Just everything that is Dane is so fucking funny. I would give anything to listen to Zaden talk about Dane getting slapped. Dane and Sloan's romance. Romance starting. Yes, absolutely. Oh, yeah. This is a fun question from Leslie. Who do we think are the four missing writers at the end? So Garrick is one of them. That's the only one we have officially confirmed. Because Zayden. I don't count. Because they're supposed pissed.

[Lexi]

No, they. No, they do count. Zayden. I made a comment. I am sure. Because I even pulled out that passage and made a comment in the outline for it.

[Nicole]

This is so Lexi. Lexi goes in and she's like, well, actually. And then pulls out like four different documents. And I'm like, okay, fine. Okay, fine. So Zaden.

[Lexi]

Because they did say about like. Okay, I bet the. Because they were talking about Zayden and then they're like, the. I bet the other three are Already dead. And so that's why. So. So Zaden and Garrick are the two that we know. Nicole here, I think these are great to Bodhi, definitely. I can see Bodhi being gone for sure. Whether that means that he's a Venin or not a Venin. Aric was on my list of who else could be missing. Dane was like another one. But I don't really see Dane going off with saving.

[Nicole]

I don't know. Dana's kind of going through his rule breaker era, I think. I think so. He knows too much to not.

[Lexi]

Yeah. I don't know who else. All of our favorite boys.

[Nicole]

Someone mirror asked if it's Mira. It could be Mira because we. We only know writers. We don't know pronouns or anything. So Crassy said riddick.

[Lexi]

Riddick could be another one.

[Nicole]

Oh, sure. Stuart said Pancheck.

[Lexi]

That too. So. Well, I was thinking Panchak or could Pancheck be one of the writers who are considered dead? Because panel now, because Nicole and I are kind of under the impression that Panchak has not been a Venin, but with his dragon dead, he would have to be either a Venin or dead. But we also don't know if the four dead riders and their dragons would be here in Orisha or if it would be, because I kind of got the feeling that it was in Orisha. So, yeah, Pancheck is definitely another possibility there too.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Panchak is venom.

[Lexi]

Pancake is Venom or dead. Another person who I was very like, again, just thinking about who is. Is in the battle. Is Kaori, like, no.

[Nicole]

Absolutely not. I refuse to believe that's true.

[Lexi]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Jason is with the new army from Zelna. Absolutely. I see. That's where I think Arik is. I don't think he's missing. I think he's just. He's. He's luring them in.

[Lexi]

Any flyers be missing?

[Nicole]

So they do say writers, right?

[Lexi]

I don't know writers.

[Nicole]

Okay.

[Lexi]

Yeah. But I. But I was wondering, because at first it was like, well, could. Could Drake be missing? But it's like, no, he's in court. And Rebecca has confirmed that. Yeah. Yes.

[Nicole]

Corey says Nicole's professor curse strikes again. If Kaori is gone, the only one that I have, I. I would be holding on hope for. Then it's Devera. And Devera has to stay. Okay. Right. I don't know. I could see her dying. Next book.

[Lexi]

Yes. Yes. Several questions here about Dane's mom. So Rebecca hinted that Dane's mom will play a role in the future. Do you have any theories on who she is? There is a theory going around that she might be from Cygnason.

[Nicole]

That's cool.

[Lexi]

I haven't heard that theory before.

[Nicole]

I don't see her being from poor Emile, though, just given who daddy Atos is. Is. And just his prejudice. His prejudice and just being an ass. So I definitely. I definitely think she is Navarian, but.

[Lexi]

Or she says that she's a Navarian. We don't necessarily. She could always be pretending.

[Nicole]

I. Yeah, I don't know. I'd love to see this interview because I actually haven't seen this. That she's hinted that Dane's mom is going to come back into play.

[Lexi]

I. I haven't either. But going off of that. What if his mom was dedicated to one of the other guys? Nuts.

[Nicole]

Which. Okay, then. Which one do you think she'd be dedicated to? I think it would be one just literary speaking. It would be one that Dane would have a parallel to. So I would say like Loisom. No, Wisdom. Maybe Wisdom. Who would sleep with daddy? Oh, I should have worn my daddy Ato shirt today. How sad.

[Lexi]

Cole turned that Daddy Atos into a good thing for Dane and I was not having it whatsoever. Whatever.

[Nicole]

On one side.

[Lexi]

Well, while we're talking about the gods and will we see Lois or Lowell? Will we see the gods or will they just be in the background? Is there an aisle dedicated to Malik?

[Nicole]

I don't think there's a God. There's an aisle dedicated to Malik because they just never talked about it.

[Lexi]

There is the bay of Malik. There's a bay of Malik. So there's that. That would be a terrifying aisle to go to the God of death with. I. So, yes, to answer the question, yes, I definitely think we're gonna see Loisom, which is the aisle dedicated to. To that goddess. I think that there's going to be something big there and there's a reason that we haven't gone there yet. That's going to be a nice little puzzle piece. I could also see, you know, Papa Sorrengal's research having little. A little hint there or something. And like loyal. Especially with. With my favorite line about how both war and love change souls irrevocably. Look, I'm so good at saying that.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God, the hours Lexi has de. Practicing. I'm so proud. Oh, my God. Look at you.

[Lexi]

I can see. I. I definitely think there is going to be something to that dedication. And I could really see that tying into the soul and the cure for. For Venin. Or something along those lines. I don't know exactly what. But yeah.

[Nicole]

Yes, I agree.

[Lexi]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Don't sleep on Malik. Everyone thought the cordon. Never mind. I'm not gonna say that I agree with you both. Low.

[Lexi]

So the cure is there because love is the answer. Yeah. I think that there's something to do with all of that there too. With the souls and how it's lost. But then, like how Violet owns Xaden's soul. There was another question. Do we think that Xaden's soul is in the ring that he gave to Violet?

[Nicole]

That is one that I'm going to say. I don't think I. I'm gonna get on that theory because that. Like this. This series is the introduction to fantasy. Right. And book three really elevated that introduction to more of an intermediate level with the gods and tying things in with dedication and stuff like that. I think a soul being an object puts it into Voldemort status. That I can't think of that and not think of the Percival. Not Percival. Whatever. The ring is in Horcrux. Yeah, exactly.

[Lexi]

Yeah. Yeah. Feels too Horcruxy. I. I agree. I think that it's going to be something to do with maybe it being gone and Violet will somehow have a way of reviving it in some way. Somehow. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good question. Was Duke Lindell missing at the end of the book? I think that he is in his city. Begins with a T. I can't remember. Tier, Tier. Tier, Dell, Tear, Deva or something.

[Nicole]

Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about.

[Lexi]

I can read it, but I can't pronounce it. So I think that he was there because I know that either Suri or Ulysses was. Was there. So I'm assuming that was the case.

[Nicole]

I agree. It's not on the map. Never mind putting this away. Yeah.

[Lexi]

Like what? So this is a great question here. What if Violet has to dedicate herself to Loyal to cure Zane soul, maybe by sharing her own through love, and that's why Dune rejected her. Oh, that's a cool idea.

[Nicole]

Okay, Barrel. I like that.

[Lexi]

Yeah, I like that a lot.

[Nicole]

I like that a lot. I definitely think we're going to see a dedication to a God honor page. And I think it would have to be either Dune or Loyal. Given Lexi's favorite passage. They change the souls irrevocably. I'm so proud of you. Okay, let's talk about this from Callie. So we know from Rebecca that there is going to be a death of a character who is beloved in book Four. And Callie says, who do you think will die in book 4? My money is on revolution.

[Lexi]

I. I'm worried about.

[Nicole]

It's gonna be re. I. I don't think it is.

[Lexi]

Maybe that's just Eric. I'm very worried about Riddick. I'm so worried about Ridic.

[Nicole]

I hate this. Oh, my God.

[Lexi]

I regret choosing this question. I think you're gonna. You've always been saying that you think it's Taryn.

[Nicole]

I do think it's gonna be Taryn. And I think that's why I'm so, like, not. Not okay. But I'm at peace if Fitzgerald. Because I'm going to hold you to.

[Lexi]

That if that does happen next time.

[Nicole]

We'Re in a hotel room reading it at 3 in the morning. Yeah, I do think it's going to be Taryn. I don't think it's going to be ridic just because of the. The character that he is. I think everyone in second squad, second year is safe because there's only three others. I think Sawyer is definitely safe. He lost a leg. That would just be cruel. I think Rhea is safe because she is just such a staple character in this book. And I just don't see what that would propel Violet forward in a character wise that wouldn't be propelled by another book. Riddick. I say that and then Riddick. I could see Tar. I could see Riddick, unfortunately. But I think Taryn. Exactly what Lacy says here. We get too many fake outs of his death in this book. There's so much buildup in Fourth Wing about if Violet dies, Taryn dies, Gail died. Like, it's like all of this chain reaction. So I think just to play on the chain reaction, there's going to have to be one of those core four die. And I could see it being Taran or Segal, but Segal is not someone I think of like as super beloved. You know, I think it's Tara would die together.

[Lexi]

Yes, I am worried about Mira or Brennan.

[Nicole]

See, I think Mira's near death.

[Lexi]

In Onyx Storm, Natalie Garrick Zaden kills his best friend is dark. I could see that that's happening for sure.

[Nicole]

I don't know.

[Lexi]

His honey bear. I'm worried about Brennan. I could see them kind of losing the mender.

[Nicole]

Yeah, I could see the loss of Brennan, but I think that would only be after a naolin download or some kind of naolin coming of, you know, Nicole clutching her brains in shock. I was holding on for dear life because Lexi, my world said, no, I.

[Lexi]

Wouldn'T be mad about Brennan. Nicole and I are roasting him in episode 11 because he's not the brilliant strategist that he kind of has a reputation for, as Xaden points out.

[Nicole]

I. I just have to stick with what I said. I think it was in episode 10 because it's the only way it makes sense to me. Brennan was a brilliant strategist in Navarrean leadership or in Navarrean isms, because that was like the leadership that. That was the information that made sense. They had a lot of info on the promish, all that kind of stuff. But when it comes to being a brilliant strategist on a very unknown enemy like the Venin, I don't think he's living up to his title for sure.

[Lexi]

Yeah. Makes it feel like it's not him.

[Nicole]

Yep.

[Lexi]

I agree. Maybe Nolan kills Brennan. Naolin kills Brennan. Ooh, that would be. That would be dark alive. Yeah, I think. Do you think that we'll get another mender? Sarah asks for the idol. You know, I us, we're dragon experts, but we're not necessarily wine connoisseurs. Ever walk in a store and have no idea what wine to get.

[Nicole]

Yeah, us too.

[Lexi]

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[Lexi]

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[Nicole]

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[Lexi]

Yeah, Dane is the first one who comes to mind.

[Nicole]

I'd also throw Brennan out there just because I think I was still team Brennan in Iron Flame. Just given him and Violet's relationship and all of that. And then he just seemed so useless other than mending in Onyx Storm. And I don't mean that as a dig of the. As a character development. I just mean that as like he just doesn't seem like he's living up to the standard that he said. Cat's another really good one.

[Lexi]

I go Sloane as well. She really. Her character development has been really fun and kind of getting a different involved Microsoft. My. My perspective on her will actually also go with Xaden. I. When I first read Onyx Storm, it was not my favorite Xaden book at all. And now after Deep diving it, I really have enjoyed Zaden and just like all the little morsels of him and Violet and. And protecting and like kind of like his why behind things. So. Yeah. Ooh. Imogen is another really good one too. Yeah.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lexi]

So Garrick's a great one too.

[Nicole]

Eric's a great one.

[Lexi]

Just listing all the characters.

[Nicole]

I know I'm not gonna say opinion changed. I would say solidified its place as my favorite FMC is Violet. I think up up there prior was Feyre, specifically like Akamath Feyre. But then Violet came in and just won the. Won the bucket. It was amazing.

[Lexi]

Yeah. Oh, I love that. About what Lacy says here, our thoughts on Brennan could also be that we're seeing via Lou's older sibling worship.

[Nicole]

Oh, wow, that's. That's deep. I like that a lot. Oh my gosh.

[Lexi]

Well, see on the reread. Yes, absolutely. Bree says not even the horse riding smiling scene. Got you Lexi. It's like not on my first read.

[Nicole]

I think you're too tired.

[Lexi]

Yeah, right.

[Nicole]

I will say so. I saw a video recently and I'm so sorry, I don't remember who it was by, but they were saying Mary Kill, 4th Wing Zaden, Iron Flame Zayden or Onyx Storm Zayden. So I'm going to ask you that Mary Kill in the audience as well. Fuck Mary Kill, Onyx Storm, fourth wing, Iron Flame. I did that in a weird order. Sorry.

[Lexi]

I. I think Mary Onyx Storms, Aiden even Though he's a Venin, but man, he just loves to prove his love to his lady. Probably fuck in fourth wing just because there is that, like, oh, I love you, but I hate you.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lexi]

And I guess I'd have to go kill in Iron Flame because, oh, gosh, he is. It is like, Zane, you're. You're not setting our girl up for success here.

[Nicole]

See, that's so funny. I think I would. I think I would kill Onyx Storm Zayden, which that is like, that is simply because that's the. That's the only one left. I would fuck 4th Wing Zayden because the same reasons you said that is just top tier. And then I think I would marry Iron Flames Aiden. He's writing her letters. He's like, I will. Like, I will only kiss you if you ask me. I love the. Like, I love the worship like that. He's like, he's your seal worshiper. It's just so nice. Obviously Luther is my favorite book boyfriend. No wonder everyone is killing Iron Flames. I will die on the hill for Iron Flames. I think he and Violet, they had some issues, but he was doing Plato, Mary, all three amazing there.

[Lexi]

Caro agrees with you, Nicole.

[Nicole]

Thank you, Caro. Iron Flame Zayden is great. They're just going through some stuff.

[Lexi]

So Dana asks. Chapter 64's epigraph is from a high priestess of Dune and says quote from one servant of Dune to another. Is Arc a servant of Dune? I was wondering about this as well.

[Nicole]

Same. So. So I think I could read this two ways. From one servant of Dune to another. It could be from one servant of Dune, the high priest us, to Violet, servant of Dune. But the way that it's written is it's. This is a letter to Arryk. So it's like from one servant of Dune to another. I need. I'm gonna pull up the whole epigraph.

[Lexi]

I was just about to do that too.

[Nicole]

I don't think Aric is dedicated for multiple reasons. Number one, his hair is not silver. Number two, it is illegal to dedicate children on Amaryllis or on Navarre.

[Lexi]

So. So here is the full epigraph. Wrath. Quote, a gift from one servant of Dune to another. I must warn you, only those touched by the gods should wield their wrath. I will pray to her that she need not use it to avoid reacquainting herself with the other who carries her favor. Her path is still not set. Recovered correspondence of High Priestess to His Royal Highness. So I think that it is actually too violet. Because the gift is the dagger from the temple stone. And so the gift is. Is for Violet, but the message is for arc.

[Nicole]

Fire in Wonderland plot twist. Ari dices hair.

[Lexi]

One of those questions as well, which I saw. If Imogen is dyes her hair because she is dedicated with the silver hair. I am. I don't think so. I think that because just a lot of people do have dyed hair, and it's just like Rebecca has dyed hair. So I'm under the impression that Imogen just likes to have pink hair. That's. That's just what I think. Yeah.

[Nicole]

That's what exactly how I read it. Yeah. I think going back to this question of Chapter 64's epigraph, I think it's referring to Violet. It is worded a little differently, so it does sound like it could be Auric, But I do think it is Violet at the end of the day.

[Lexi]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Yes. You all asked so many good questions. I'm looking in the background, I'm like, oh, God.

[Lexi]

Really fun one. What is our favorite one liner from Onyx Storm Megan's was quote, he described you perfectly. Day NATO's.

[Nicole]

What is my favorite one liner? I mean, good thing. I fuck like a third is just so good. Like, it's so good.

[Lexi]

Mine might be from Garrick. The Honey Bear. Like, honey bear. You know what?

[Nicole]

Yeah, that's a really good one. I think any time that Zaden takes Holden down a peg is just delicious. The scene where Zaden, like, basically picks Violet up and is like, I'm glad you didn't say I'm a professor. I can't remember what he says exactly. But that's another. Oh, my gosh.

[Lexi]

Yeah. Where it's like, okay, great. I am not officially professor that. That exchange there too.

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Lexi]

Thinking of any Taryn quotes inside the inside thoughts Inside.

[Nicole]

Taryn was just such a girl dad. This book. And it was so wonderful. Yes. The table's broken. That's another good one. I really just enjoyed Taryn stepping more into. Who are you talking to? Where you were saying in regards to the girl dad. And then. Was it dad?

[Lexi]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lexi]

Well, because he's only read fourth wing, and so I hate sewing.

[Nicole]

Yes, that's a good one.

[Lexi]

I'm getting that sweatshirt.

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Lexi]

Yeah. So I was talking to our dad because he just finished fourth wing. And I was like, yeah, like, Taryn is such a girl dad. And fourth wing, Taryn is not so much of a girl dad. He's much more of a curmudgeon. And our dad was like, like, wait, you think that he's like, a girl dad and it's like, oh, yeah. You haven't read the rest of the books where he really becomes a girl dad. Yes. Yes. And Darna's comment that his wings can hold the burden of his ego. Yep. I keep wanting to say basket, but that's one of our. You will not be killed by a house cat. Oh, my God.

[Nicole]

Oh, my God. It's so funny because, like, it feels like Onyx storm, deep dive. Felt like it went by so, so, so fast. And yet we're, like, going through these lines, and I'm like, oh, my God. That Devarelli scene feels like it was forever ago.

[Lexi]

Yes. Oh, he used the wing leader voice. Oh, my gosh. All of these. I love it.

[Nicole]

From mirror. And it is. Can you see any Irids bonding writers? They would have to have a big glow up in order for me to feel like they. They would bond a writer. I mean, they would be able to second bond a writer because that would be. Another thing is I could. Could see more Irids bonding, but I don't know. Actually, I say that, and then Rebecca doesn't like to have people with too much power.

[Lexi]

I'm gonna go with no, because I like that there are those dragons that are just so different. Yeah. Yes. But I could see. I'll say this, though. I could see, like, some. One of the tales manifesting and becoming a weapon tail. I could see that happening. Oh, and it almost being like an accident. Ooh, I don't know.

[Nicole]

I know. I like that. I like that a lot.

[Lexi]

There's a lot of questions about, oh, what if an Irid bonds someone as their griffin or dragon is dying to save them?

[Nicole]

That I could definitely see going back to. Was it Marin I was talking about who she got the two orange tunics. Right. And I was. I was on theory of your.

[Lexi]

That.

[Nicole]

What if she bonds an orange dragon and then she has two. She has two flying apparatuses to go on? I don't know. I think that would be fun.

[Lexi]

Let's talk more about the gods. There's lots of questions about the gods here. First of all, here from Kelsey with a little butterfly.

[Nicole]

Oh.

[Lexi]

Every time I see that butterfly, I always think of quicksilver.

[Nicole]

I was gonna say little Osha. Yeah. Do you.

[Lexi]

Do we think that we will meet any gods in book four? So I. I'm under the impression the gods are not, like, tangible beings, but I definitely think that they are. There's a lot more magic of theirs that is going to be at play. So I also. Yeah. What do you think, Nicole?

[Nicole]

I. I don't. I agree with you that I don't think they're, like, sentient. Sentient. But I don't know, because I also said that going into book three, and then we get all this, like, Dune's wrath, and it's almost like Dune is up in the sky. I think about, like, the. The three Fates. Fates from Greek mythology. Right. Where they're almost like, you know, kind of stirring the pot up and up in the. Up in Olympus. And so I could see where that is what we're supposed to, like, almost see them as. But they're never down on the ground. Like, they're never talking to us. But I don't know. I could see a moment where Violet almost has to communicate with Dune, but it would be more through. Maybe it would be through dreams. Maybe it would be through actually dreams. No, I'm gonna stick with dreams. I think it wouldn't be like they're having a conversation face to face, but it would be more like in her mind. Does that make sense?

[Lexi]

Like a Harry Potter, Dumbledore sort of situation?

[Nicole]

Kind of like that.

[Lexi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nicole]

King's Cross. There we go. Kind of that situation.

[Lexi]

I can see something along those lines. Yeah. I also. I'm trying to find the quote here. Well, here's a few about Violet. Do we think that Violet will be dedicated by the end of the series? Fully dedicated?

[Nicole]

I don't, but I. I'm truly going off of vibes and vibes alone. Like, I have no concrete evidence to back that up. That's just my. My nudge. What do you think?

[Lexi]

I think she might be, but I love the idea of her being fully dedicated to loyal.

[Nicole]

See, I like the idea of Xaden being fully dedicated to loyal. And if he's fully dedicated to loyal, then I see Violet being fully dedicated to Dune, and then they're like the two to.

[Lexi]

Yeah. You know what? I actually do think that Violet could be fully dedicated. I don't think that it'll give her an extra power boost necessarily, but I think that there is something with that that could see.

[Nicole]

I think it would give her an extra power boost, considering what. See, this is another question that we have for Rebecca Yarrows, and that is, what power? When someone is fully dedicated, specifically as a high priestess for Theophany, she was so, so powerful. But then she was like, I. Why? Why serve a God when you can become one? So what was the power that she had as a high priestess who was fully.

[Lexi]

I don't think she's going to answer that question. We have to try. I think that Violet. So I see Violet being dedicated where it's like her path is set at the end. But maybe with her choosing Xaden, she will always choose Xaden. Maybe that in and of itself, I'll say, disqualifies her from being fully dedicated.

[Nicole]

Possibly.

[Lexi]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

This is a fun question from Sarah. Which God would you be dedicated to if you had to. If you had to choose? Okay, so, like. But really quickly, let's list them off. There's wisdom, luck, love, war. Amari is just queen of the gods. Yeah. Malik and I think that's it. Yeah.

[Lexi]

Those are the six, I would say. Okay, I'm chaotic enough for that.

[Nicole]

But here's the deal. If you and I were dedicated to Sonal, we would have to fully release, control, and let's anal. Just guide.

[Lexi]

Never mind. I'm not gonna dedicate myself. You know what?

[Nicole]

I see. I would originally think wisdom, because I'm like, oh, that'd be nice. But then going to the wisdom aisle, I'm like, no. Would I want to do this? Absolutely not. I want to say Lois, but I. Okay, yeah, I agree with Carl. Carl, you and I, same brain today. I want to visit Lois before I dedicate myself to Loyale. Yes, I agree.

[Lexi]

Yes, yes.

[Nicole]

What do we do typically as we're pivoting from one series to another? Is there any rituals or is there any, like, standard operating procedures that we have to do in order to transition from one series to another? So always, whenever we pivot, whenever we move to a new series, we revamp. I'm gonna say everything that is in the discord. All of the tiers, the names that you all are right now is like Dragon Riders and Iron Squad will all be changing on April 29 to something that is much more Kinder's Curse saga. We also read.

[Lexi]

Do we want to release what the tier names are?

[Nicole]

Ooh, yeah. Let's ask. Do you guys want it? Do you guys want to hear what they are? Oh, my God. Thank you, Holly.

[Lexi]

So we'll be honest. This one was a little bit difficult just because we don't want to do, like, I'll say, like, their, like, classes. Like, for instance, we don't want to do, like, mortals and then descended because we don't want to elevate one above the other with. With the races. So it was a very difficult one for us to do, but we do have it. Oh, only if there are no spoilers.

[Nicole]

I don't think there are very out of context.

[Lexi]

You're right. Yeah, it's very out of context. Yep. No spoilers here. Yep, yep.

[Nicole]

Yes, yes, yes. All right. Do you have it in front of you or I can grab.

[Lexi]

I do not. I thought you. I think you were putting it in front of me.

[Nicole]

I was grabbing a snack. But yes, I will happily grab it while you're doing that.

[Lexi]

Also, just like we really. We start reading the books like I'm right now about halfway through My Glow. My Glow of the Everflame reread and we just like really familiarize ourselves. We will go ahead and share with all of you that. Because we always do like an intro episode as well, usually only about 15 minutes where we kind of go through like what the segments will be like because this one is going to be look just a tiny bit different and you know, like how we got into the series, like why we're doing the series and what we're really excited about for it. And we are so excited that Pen is actually going to be joining us for our intro one this time. And so she's also going to share some really fun behind the the scenes insight of the series, specifically Spark and like just talking about some general themes going into the deep dive of the series. So we are so excited to have her on for that interview. Like pre deep dive there.

[Nicole]

There's so much that we're going to be covering in this that she's. We. We've already kind of talked with her about some things that we have planned for certain characters, I'll say so that we don't give any spoilers. And she's so excited because there are some characters that do get quite a bit of judgment, I'll say like some Dane level judgment from book one. And we're really excited to stand in their shoes while we, I won't say defend the character, but look at things through their point of view.

[Lexi]

I can go ahead and lots of questions about when the release is for Burn. No, that is not going to be like she's not going to be releasing that on our podcast.

[Nicole]

All right, to the fan club names. So the cadets are going to become the descended. The Dragon Riders are going to become the royal family and the inner circle is going to become the Crown's Council. Meanwhile the moderators are going to be called the Guardians of the Everflame. And then the FFG team, I am going to hold off because that might be a little spoilery. So there you go.

[Lexi]

So, so real quickly we can, we can go ahead and say this about book four is that they do Pen and her team have an internal date which is within this year and they are really trying their hardest to shoot for it and she is still finalizing a few things before they are able to confirm it. So they are working very, very hard and behind the scenes to get that out as soon as possible. But she does not want to say anything until it is absolutely a million percent certain. So. But it is going to be coming out sometime this year and oh my gosh, yeah, it's gonna be so much fun. Like we haven't done a deep dive where it's like the a new romance for a long time because even with Silver Flames, those two characters that I just read off, they like there was still like a lot going on. Like there are a lot of tension, like sexual tension between them for a while beforehand. But like it's feels like it's been since really truly acomath that we got like a new character romance.

[Nicole]

That's actually a really good point. Yes. I'm so excited you all. I like I was always texting Lexi the other night and I was saying to her that anytime there is a slow burn moment between the FMC and the mmc, I'm going beat by beat. Like because there is so much waiting that I will be pulling every single morsel out while I can. I hope you all liked my bang bang banging bang song for the chair scene because you're not gonna hear it for a while.

[Lexi]

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[Lexi]

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[Nicole]

What we will say that we're planning on doing that if we cannot get the interview is having people meticulously videoing, taking notes, all that kind of stuff. And then Lexi and I are going to compile all of that information and probably do a bonus episode of some sort or maybe do some something like this like a Q and A where we will divulge as much information as we can from what she said in the interview.

[Lexi]

Yep, yep. So if you're not able to hear it directly, you will at least be able to get good nuggets from us afterwards. So that's that's the best that we what we will absolutely do everything we possibly can. And we also know that Rebecca is always wanting to to to to share. She never wants to gatekeep that information from everybody. So it really comes down to Disney World and yeah what they plan.

[Nicole]

A question from Bloflo Is the Orlando interview just Onyx Storm or will you be discussing her other books? We will be primarily leaning into Onyx Storm simply because at the Denver interview, yes it was Onyx Storm, but we did have to keep things as spoiler free as we tried we followed her lead on that and luckily we got a little bit of information out of her. But this is where we, the. The wheels are off, friends. We get to ask her anything and everything we can regarding Onyx Storm. Within reason.

[Lexi]

Yeah. And also I've seen other people asking about tickets for Romanasy. Book Con have sold out completely. As far as we know, there will not be any more tickets released. However, if you go to their discord, it's free, accessible for anybody to go to, and they do have like a resale section. So we highly recommend going to that and try to do like pick up any resales or something like that. So.

[Nicole]

Yep, yep, yep.

[Lexi]

Let's take what, two.

[Nicole]

Two more questions.

[Lexi]

Yeah, yeah, let's definitely do that. I like, obviously I know that this is going a little bit longer than usual, so if you gotta go, gotta go, of course, all of that stuff. But yeah, let's. Let's do this. Will from Holly. Will Indarna go back to the Irides again?

[Nicole]

I don't think so. I think the pain of being separated from Violet would have been way too much once. So I don't think she would. I think if she does, it would be with Violet. Oh, that would be my guess.

[Lexi]

Does that mean that Taran would go too? Or do you think that Andarna would fly her there?

[Nicole]

I think Taran would have to go too.

[Lexi]

Do you think the Irides could possibly have healed her wing?

[Nicole]

Yes, I'm going with yes, absolutely.

[Lexi]

Also along these same lines, Nikki's asks, do we think Andarna was actually gone for years in Irid time? Can Irides manipulate time? And Andarna got so much knowledge in such a short amount of human time.

[Nicole]

I hope that's the case. It feels a little deus ex machina to me, but I really. I. For. For just needing and darn it, to know things. I hope so.

[Lexi]

I agree with you. I like as of. Right. Because. Okay, so I don't have the exact timeline in front of me, so. So be gentle with me. But Andarna leaves to go with Leofin and it's approximately. Right. Two weeks later that she comes back to Violet. Is that right?

[Nicole]

I. I want to say yes, but I think it's a little less than two weeks. It's definitely over a week and a half. I know that for sure.

[Lexi]

Okay, so let.

[Nicole]

Let's.

[Lexi]

Let's just call it 10 days to two weeks.

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Lexi]

And so that means that it would have been very difficult for them to go to the Irids den and then she Pretty much would have had to go straight back because it does take. Even though they are more south and they're closer to the. To the aisles. We don't know exactly where it is, but I'm. I'm guessing it would be a little bit further away.

[Nicole]

Also would have had to like car though, if that was the case. Right on his back.

[Lexi]

But that's why I'm wondering, maybe he didn't heal her wing, but they have such unique magic that maybe that had something to do with it where he was able to like channel magic into her to give her that extra strength to push forward. So I could. I could see it being two things. One is that she's on her way there. And when Violet had her second signet or her dream with that, and she's like, wait, I shouldn't be feeling this. I feel like. Like maybe. And Darna felt something and then she went back towards Violet. However, we realized in the deep dive that there's only hours time between her having that dream and her showing and Darna showing back up. So she would have had to be fairly close by. So that kind of makes me wonder. Maybe that wouldn't have actually worked out. Or she did go to the Irids and really was just like, nope, this is not for me. And then she flew back to. To Violet. But that would have been a lot of flying for her in two weeks. And I don't know if she can do it.

[Nicole]

I think they were just on the continent, just like incognito. Maybe they needed to do that before they went back to the Dragon Den so that they could, you know, have some time so that Leo could really understand her. They were training in private? Yes. Like Dana saying here, I think Leo was training her in private, but they never left. But then Leo and wanted to. To. To train her for a little bit before going back to the Irid Isles. You okay there?

[Lexi]

I'm good. She's just very strong.

[Nicole]

We. But yeah. So I think I. I definitely think that's how that happened. And that way there was not a big time difference between her having to fly. There wasn't her fatigue and all that kind of stuff.

[Lexi]

Yeah. I also love what Chrissy's saying here. Maybe he told Andarna how to fix her own wing, since they are pure magic. And he was like, you can fix it yourself. Maybe they are pure magic. Maybe they teleported.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Walking or stuff like that. Yeah.

[Lexi]

There's so much unknown about the Irides that it's like. Like we just don't know. Yeah, maybe they can distance walk. Sorry, I'm just having so much fun reading all of these. Yeah, it's like 10 days, I think. Okay, great. Thank you so much, Nicole. Yeah. But, like, back to the question about could there be time manipulation? I would be surprised if there was. I would be surprised, but not like completely flabbergasted, if that makes sense.

[Nicole]

Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

[Lexi]

Alrighty.

[Nicole]

Oh, I wanted to answer this, actually, as. As we were talking about and Darna and the leaving, if Leo did help her in some way fix her wing or even if he didn't honestly lose says, do you think that Violet will ride and Darn is on Andarna's back in books four or five. Absolutely. I thought it was going to be in book three and I lost that bet. So I think it's definitely going to be in book five. Or it's going to be in book four.

[Lexi]

Yeah. Oh, here's a good question. Will we go to Loisom? You know, how do you think Loyal will come into play? We kind of already talked about that, like, as far as, like, with the soul and things like that. But I am willing to die on the hill that we will be going to Loisom.

[Nicole]

I think we can add that to the list of things we would absolutely believe are happening in book four, if not book four or five. Yes, I think it's very safe to say we're going to go to Loisom. I think there's a reason we did not go to Lois in this book. But how do I think Loial will come into play? It just goes back to. I keep on going back to this. The pattern of three and love and how Venom can feel love. And maybe, maybe Venon Zaden can go to Loyal and get dedicated and. Because the love and the something or other and that's how he gets cured. I don't know.

[Lexi]

But like.

[Nicole]

Or maybe it just, like, halts the process. I have no idea. But I definitely think that. I don't know if we're going to go with Satan. I could. Oh, I can't remember if I said this on. On air, if we cut it from the episode. But I do think that whenever we do go to Loyal, it's going to be Loison there. It's going to be just Violet. So Zaden's not going to be with her. And I could see it being something like. Like the trial being some kind of prove your. Prove your love that you have. And Violet's gonna have to figure out how to prove her love when her love's not with her, which would just rip my heart out. I love that so much.

[Lexi]

Here's another really great question about within the 12 hours from Brittany, of all the bad stuff that is revealed to have happened at the end of Violet's last chapter, what do you think Zaden is actually responsible for?

[Nicole]

Eggs? Like, what is the actual taking of the eggs or orchestrating the puppets to go take the eggs and take them to Umbriel or take them wherever they did? I definitely think eggs. Eggs. He, he is in charge of.

[Lexi]

So do you think that the elders died and the, the four dragons and their writers died defending the eggs? Because that's what makes the most sense. In that case, that would mean that so what if the. So I like to think that maybe it's the Venin, like Berwin, who went and attacked, but at the same time, it's behind the wards.

[Nicole]

Yeah. See, this is what happens on air. Lexi and I try to figure out theories on air, and then we just have to cut it all out of the episode because we're like, what if? But no, there's a man rambling.

[Lexi]

I think that I, I, I like to think that it was the Venin who were orchestrating all of that with, with the Elders and things like that. And so maybe Zayden ensured the six eggs did not go to the venom like it was initially supposed to be.

[Nicole]

So Kit here says Arik and Arik and Zaden did the egg heist is my crack theory. I love the idea that it's Arik because he would have probably seen something that, like, oh, the eggs need to go to X place. And that's where Xaden and Violet went in, got the eggs, maybe gave him to Garrick so he could distance walk. Who knows? I have no idea. I'm.

[Lexi]

Yeah, I saw. Another question at one point is how far in the future do we think that our exciting can see? Because my guess is not that far.

[Nicole]

Yeah, I don't think that far.

[Lexi]

My guess is pretty early. Like for instance, with him. With, with Violet saving Tyrandor. That is a few weeks right in advance there. No, not even.

[Nicole]

No, it is 10 days. Yeah.

[Lexi]

So, yeah, I think that, I think that it would probably be up to two weeks. Yes. I love that Fire in Wonderland. I think his visions get further into the future. The more powerful he gets. I love that.

[Nicole]

Well, that's how we're feeling with Imogen and Dane. It's like the fur. The more powerful they get, the further Imogen can wipe or the further Dane can see. So on and so forth.

[Lexi]

Yep, yep, yep.

[Nicole]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.

[Lexi]

Should we do one more question here and then wrap up? There was one question about merch as well for like, kind of like as we're all just. I'll call it hanging out afterwards. So we'll finish this up with Onyx Storm and then just maybe chill for another 10 minutes. For any other random questions, but especially about the fan club, we always want to make sure you all are getting the most out of the fan club experience. So if you have any questions about logistics or whatever that might be to make sure that you're all connected and getting the best of those, then please ask those questions then too.

[Nicole]

So one more here.

[Lexi]

We kind of talked about this, but didn't really. From Cassie. Do we think any of the gods are legitimately working through specific characters and represented by them like they are playing with humans lives?

[Nicole]

So I think this goes back to the sixth most powerful. And I don't know if this would be like they're actually legitimately working through them or if they're literally literary symbolism of it. So like for instance, like Fire in Wonderland is saying Amari threw Rhiannon. When we first meet Rhiannon, it's described how she Riddick and Zinal, Violet and Dune, probably Zaden and I believe Loial is what I feel like the most correlated is. I'm trying to think of others, but I think those are. Those are the first ones off the top of my head. But then it goes into who would the other people be? So like for instance, I could see Daenon being he on for wisdom.

[Lexi]

Yeah, sorry, I just saw that Noel said Dane went from ask Jeeves and 4th Wing to Google. Love that so much. Anyway, sorry, that's not necessarily relevant.

[Nicole]

Oh, Fire and Wonderland says Justinia through He Dotis or he Dion. So I could absolutely see that. And then Dane could be through. I don't know. Someone would be through Malik. I don't know who that would be. Maybe Sloan. Honestly, I could see Sloan be through male Malik, considering how tied in with death she is. Jack fucking Barlow. Holly says this through Malik. Don't do that to Lexi.

[Lexi]

No, you know what I did actually want to point out there was another a few questions. If you could remove one character from the series, who would it be and why? And I said my obvious answer is Jack fucking Barlow, though I understand his purpose to the story.

[Nicole]

If you can remove one, I mean, yeah, probably Jack fucking Barlow would be. Would be the. The answer for me. I'm trying to think who Maybe Brennan. Honestly, Brennan wouldn't be far off from my list.

[Lexi]

Yeah. And while we're kind of on the pre selected questions. I know I said one more question, but whatever Megan asked, what is one answer we did not get in? Onyx Storm. You wish we did.

[Nicole]

Naolin. Naolin and Brennan. The freaking palm. The palm thing. I wish. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yes, that's definitely mine.

[Lexi]

I would say too, like, a little bit more about how Andara was able to burn that venon. Like, we got such a good teaser in the prologue and then it was like, oh, yes. And then it never came up again. So I definitely think that's going to come into play. Yeah.

[Nicole]

Oh, yeah.

[Lexi]

Brennan's rune. Yep. Absolutely.

[Nicole]

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Lexi]

What does everybody think that rune is? Because I know we've talked about it a little bit on the podcast. I think that we talk about it in episode 11, right? Yes, we do talk about a few theories. Is with that in episode 11?

[Nicole]

Yes, yes, we do.

[Lexi]

But I just. Do you think that it's an active rune or do you think that it is a. Like a scar? Like a truly a scar?

[Nicole]

I think it's a scar from a. From a previously used room. I think it's something that Naolin used to resurrect Brennan.

[Lexi]

Yep, yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The rune. He's a wyvern slasher there.

[Nicole]

Yeah, I see that a lot. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Ah, you all, thank you, you so, so much for staying with us for this extended Q and A. This was so, so fun. Like Lexi mentioned, we'll stay on for a few minutes and do any answer questions and all that kind of stuff that you all may have about the fan club or merch or benefits or anything like that. We always want to make sure you're getting the most out of your experience. But thank you, thank you, thank you, as always to our executive producer, AKA our sanity manager. And that is Hayden. I went straight into like. Like, you all just know him. That is his name. And then also to Peyton, who is the sanity manager. Sanity manager, AKA our community assistant, who are working in the background, learning all the ropes. We're so, so, so honored to have you both on the team. Thank you, thank you. Thank you all for being here.

[Lexi]

I just want to say, like, Nicole and I this week, like, there's always so much going on and Nicole and my sanity has been just so much better. Like, it's like there's always so many balls up in the air and it's like as we're building out our team. It is. We have, like, we can breathe.

[Nicole]

We can breathe crazy. I've had almost every night off this week, and you know what I've done? Played Baldur's Gate. It's been great. I've loved it. It's been amazing.

[Lexi]

I can't even get past the Goblin Camp.

[Nicole]

Alrighty, friends, I think that is it. Lexi and I are gonna go into our hidey holes and outline. Thank you all again, so much for being here. This is an extra long, fun time to be special spending with you all. And we just adore you.

[Lexi]

Yes, indeed. Oh, no, we have not read his Dark Materials trilogy.

[Nicole]

I've heard about it, though. Yes.

[Lexi]

I have heard about it as well. Yes. Yes. How do we feel about finishing up Arnic Storm?

[Nicole]

Excited to go to something new, but sad to leave Empyrean.

[Lexi]

Yeah.

[Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lexi]

Imperium is just like our home. And so it's. I think these 12 episodes were perfect. Like, it was really good.

[Nicole]

And.

[Lexi]

And it is always exciting to go into a new series, too.

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Lexi]

Yep.

[Nicole]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

[Lexi]

All right, everybody finish that margarita. Yes, I will. Cheers. Cheers.

[Nicole]

Bye.