Fashion People Presents: Otherworld | Zaza

Podcast: Fashion People
Episode: Presenting: Otherworld | Zaza
Host: Jack Wagner (Otherworld), Presented by Lauren Sherman (Fashion People & Puck)
Date: November 8, 2025

Brief Overview

In this crossover preview, "Fashion People" introduces listeners to an episode of the paranormal podcast "Otherworld" hosted by Jack Wagner. The episode, titled "Zaza," dives into a chilling true story from Kendra, a woman who, as a high schooler in 1990s Wyoming, encountered something strange after playing with a Ouija board with friends. This segment is a snapshot into unexplainable events, blurring the line between reality and the supernatural—a departure from Fashion People’s usual fashion-industry scoop, but no less dramatic.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setting the Scene: Small Town 90s Nostalgia

• Kendra grew up in a tiny town in central Wyoming, near the Wind River Reservation, rich with Native American and mountain man history ([03:15]).
• She paints a vivid picture of adolescence in the pre-internet era: “We didn't have a lot to do. We didn't have the Internet, you know, so we were always just looking for things to get into, you know, prank calling people, driving around town, just meeting up at the local parking lot where everybody hung out.” ([04:51])
• Her group of friends bonded over music, especially grunge and classic rock, with Kendra expressing her Beatles obsession.

2. Inciting Incident: The Ouija Board Experiment

• With a mix of boredom and curiosity, Kendra and friends buy a Ouija board from Kmart, aiming to contact John Lennon ([06:19]).
• The initial tone is playful:

  “All kind of in good fun. In the beginning. We really just, you know, were trying to go into it kind of in a lighthearted way. Like, how cool would it be if John Lennon came through to talk to us?” — Kendra ([06:30])

• None are sure if the board works, but as soon as they try, the planchette starts moving and spells out words—faster than they expect. They question whether anyone in the group is faking.

3. Early Signs: Is It Really John Lennon?

• Kendra and friends ask for proof; astonishingly, a John Lennon photo falls off her wall at the exact moment they request a sign ([08:03]).

• “At that moment, I had a John Lennon photo hanging on my wall across the room, and it fell off the wall at that moment and we all just looked at each other and we were like, oh my gosh, like, I can't believe that just happened.” — Kendra ([08:12])

4. Escalation: The Uncanny Begins

• The group, encouraged/unnerved by the “sign,” keeps playing.
• While the excerpt is brief, Kendra hints at darker turns:

  “I think because we were so open minded and intentional with what we were doing, unintentionally, I think that's where things maybe kind of took advantage of us.” — Kendra ([09:13])

• The host, Jack Wagner, draws attention to the classic elements at play—adolescent curiosity, ritual objects, and the unnerving consequences:

  “This is a very classic, spooky story in so many ways. I'm gonna let Kendra tell it for herself...” — Jack Wagner ([01:38])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ouija board moment:

  “Of course, it started moving and it really did feel like, you know, none of us was really intentionally moving it.” — Kendra ([07:09])

• Uncanny ‘proof’:

  “I mean, I had all four Beatles photos hanging on my wall and for that to happen just seemed to be like such a. It couldn't be a coincidence.” — Kendra ([08:24])

• Atmospheric intro:

  “One that reality wears when it gets weird. The podcast Otherworld explores stories of the strange, the unexplainable, and the downright uncanny. Think glitch in the Matrix.” — Podcast Narrator ([00:17])

Important Segments with Timestamps

• [00:46] — Jack Wagner introduces the episode and the story’s protagonist, Kendra.
• [03:15] — Kendra describes small-town Wyoming life in the 1990s.
• [06:19] — Decision to get the Ouija board and attempt to contact John Lennon.
• [07:09] — The planchette “moves on its own” during their Ouija session.
• [08:03–08:24] — The John Lennon photo mysteriously falls as the group asks for proof.
• [09:13] — Kendra reflects on how their intentions may have made them vulnerable.
• [09:22] — Episode outro and prompt to listen to the full story on “Otherworld.”

Tone & Language

The episode strikes a nostalgic, conversational tone reflecting 90s adolescence and the mixture of fun and fear intrinsic to urban legend storytelling. Kendra is earnest and relatable, while Jack Wagner’s introductions bring a sense of anticipation and classic spooky energy.

Summary for New Listeners

This preview of “Otherworld: Zaza” weaves a nostalgic, suspense-filled tale of bored teens, a Ouija board, and a chilling encounter in small-town Wyoming. While the full extent of the supernatural events is left for the complete episode, the excerpt is rich in detail, emotional candor, and atmospheric storytelling—a compelling detour from fashion world drama, underscoring that “dark drama never goes out of season.”