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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
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The Fathoms podcast is about serious work for unserious humans. We dive deep into the topics that make us human. Whether it's the Enneagram or just learning to ask better questions. There's never a shortage of gravity or levity, so hit play, let's get to it!
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The Grand Finale: Reflections on Season Five of Fathoms
Jul 1701:55:18Tap to summarizeThe culmination of our fifth season encapsulates a profound exploration of growth through the lens of the Enneagram, revealing that true development demands a nuanced understanding of oneself and others. Throughout this season, we endeavored to showcase the diverse schools of thought within the Enneagram community, emphasizing the importance of critical thinking and the ability to hold complexity in our perspectives. The incomparable, Lee Fields joins us halfway through to give us her take on the season and illuminate the necessity for individuals to engage deeply with their own narratives while remaining open to the insights of others, thereby fostering an environment conducive to genuine growth. Together, we reflect on the journey we undertook, acknowledging the challenges faced and the insights gained, as we sought to create a lasting resource for our audience. As we transition into future endeavors, we remain committed to advancing the conversation surrounding the Enneagram, encouraging listeners to embrace both the rigidity and fluidity inherent in their personal growth journeys.Big thanks to LEE FIELDS for joining us in this last episode. We love you Lee!Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification ProgramMario Sikora: IG: @mariosikoraTikTok: @mariosikoraWeb: mariosikora.comSubstack: mariosikora.substack.comMaria Jose Munita: IG: @mjmunitaWeb: mjmunita.comPodcasts:Awareness to Action Enneagram in a MovieThe Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/Christopher Copeland:Web: illuminatingpaths.comNarrative Podcasts:Heart of the EnneagramThe Somatic EnneagramFrom Armor to EaseThe Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott: Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.comMichael Naylor:Web - enneagrammaine.comYou Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews—Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans—Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership CommunityCo-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey MarksProduction/Editing: Liminal PodcastsFollow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdmThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Transcribe →Growth & Farewell: The Map, The Work, and the Way Forward (Part 2)
Jul 301:11:36Tap to summarizeIn Part 2, we unpack our thoughts on what the Enneagram teachers shared in our last episode. You'll hear us compare and contrast the models, and share what resonated with us, as well as what we'd like to see evolve, and we explore how we plan to synthesize all we've learned and carry it forward. We are so very grateful to our six teachers for their gift of time and knowledge, and their incredible generosity. Mental Health Toolkit: Tools to Bolster Your Mood & Mental HealthAwareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification ProgramMario Sikora: IG: @mariosikoraTikTok: @mariosikoraWeb: mariosikora.comSubstack: mariosikora.substack.comMaria Jose Munita: IG: @mjmunitaWeb: mjmunita.comPodcasts:Awareness to Action Enneagram in a MovieThe Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/Christopher Copeland:Web: illuminatingpaths.comNarrative Podcasts:Heart of the EnneagramThe Somatic EnneagramFrom Armor to EaseThe Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott: Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.comMichael Naylor:Web - enneagrammaine.comYou Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews—Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans—Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership CommunityCo-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey MarksProduction/Editing: Liminal PodcastsFollow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdmThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Transcribe →Growth & Farewell: The Map, The Work, and the Way Forward (Part 1)
Jul 302:12:29Tap to summarizeAs we begin wrapping up season 5, we're answering the question, "What now?" We've looked at all seven types through the lens of three influential models, but how do we actually apply it? As we say our goodbyes, we ask our six teachers how their models contribute to growth and transformation, as well as their hopes for the future evolution of the Enneagram.Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification ProgramMario Sikora: IG: @mariosikoraTikTok: @mariosikoraWeb: mariosikora.comSubstack: mariosikora.substack.comMaria Jose Munita: IG: @mjmunitaWeb: mjmunita.comPodcasts:Awareness to Action Enneagram in a MovieThe Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/Christopher Copeland:Web: illuminatingpaths.comNarrative Podcasts:Heart of the EnneagramThe Somatic EnneagramFrom Armor to EaseThe Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott: Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.comMichael Naylor:Web - enneagrammaine.comYou Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews—Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans—Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership CommunityCo-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey MarksProduction/Editing: Liminal PodcastsFollow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdmThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Transcribe →Type 7: The Pursuit of Freedom, Possibility, and Joy
Jun 1902:10:49Tap to summarizeThe focal point of this podcast episode revolves around the exploration of Type Seven within the Enneagram framework, characterized by their intrinsic desire for excitement and aversion to emotional pain. We delve into the complexities of the Seven's experience, emphasizing the multifaceted nature of their personality, which is often misunderstood as superficiality. Through thoughtful discourse, we unravel the dichotomy of their vibrant exterior contrasted with the profound emotional depth they possess, often hidden beneath a facade of joy. By sharing personal anecdotes and insights, we aim to illuminate the rich inner world of Sevens, fostering a greater understanding of their motivations and challenges. The dialogue further encourages listeners to reflect on their own interactions and perceptions of this dynamic type, inviting a deeper appreciation for the nuanced layers that define the Seven's journey.Human Interview: Milton Stewartkaizencareers.comDo It For The Gram PodcastThe Enneagram Institute Type 7The Narrative EnneagramType 7Awareness to ActionType 7Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification ProgramMario Sikora: IG: @mariosikoraTikTok: @mariosikoraWeb: mariosikora.comSubstack: mariosikora.substack.comMaria Jose Munita: IG: @mjmunitaWeb: mjmunita.comPodcasts:Awareness to Action Enneagram in a MovieThe Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/Christopher Copeland:Web: illuminatingpaths.comNarrative Podcasts:Heart of the EnneagramThe Somatic EnneagramFrom Armor to EaseThe Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott: Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.comMichael Naylor:Web - enneagrammaine.comYou Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews—Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans—Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership CommunityCo-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey MarksProduction/Editing: Liminal PodcastsFollow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdmThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Transcribe →Type 6: The Search for Security, Certainty, and Courage
Jun 3, 202501:26:47Tap to summarizeThe salient focus of our discourse today revolves around the exploration of Type 6 within the Enneagram framework, characterized predominantly by a quest for security and an instinctive response to perceived threats. Throughout this episode, I engage with nine distinguished speakers, each contributing unique insights into the complexities that define this personality type. We delve into the dual expressions of Type 6, namely the phobic and counterphobic tendencies, highlighting how both seek safety albeit through divergent methodologies. The conversation further touches upon the intrinsic relationship between fear and courage, elucidating how these emotions coexist and inform the behaviors of Type 6 individuals. As we navigate these profound themes, our aim is to foster a comprehensive understanding of Type 6, encouraging listeners to reflect on how these dynamics may manifest in their own lives and in their interactions with others.Human Interview: Ben CampbellWebsiteInstagramAwareness to ActionType 6The Enneagram InstituteType 6The Narrative EnneagramType 6Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification ProgramMario Sikora: IG: @mariosikoraTikTok: @mariosikoraWeb: mariosikora.comSubstack: mariosikora.substack.comMaria Jose Munita: IG: @mjmunitaWeb: mjmunita.comPodcasts:Awareness to Action Enneagram in a MovieThe Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/Christopher Copeland:Web: illuminatingpaths.comNarrative Podcasts:Heart of the EnneagramThe Somatic EnneagramFrom Armor to EaseThe Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott: Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.comMichael Naylor:Web - enneagrammaine.comYou Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews—Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans—Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership CommunityCo-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey MarksProduction/Editing: Liminal PodcastsFollow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdmThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Transcribe →Type 5: The Quest for Knowledge, Understanding, and Self-Sufficiency
May 21, 202501:45:45Tap to summarizeThe focal point of today's discourse revolves around the Enneagram Type Five, characterized by their profound inclination towards detachment and observation as a means of navigating an overwhelmingly stimulating world. We delve into the complexities inherent in the Five’s experience, particularly emphasizing their heightened sensitivity, which often compels them to create emotional distance from their surroundings. Throughout our dialogue, various participants elucidate the nuances of the Five's emotional landscape, shedding light on the intricate interplay between intellect and feeling that defines their existence. Additionally, we reflect upon the common misconceptions surrounding Fives, particularly the notion that they are devoid of emotion, highlighting instead their rich internal life and the necessity for connection. As we progress, we invite listeners to consider how understanding Type Five can foster deeper empathy and insight into their own experiences and those of others.HUMAN INTERVIEW: Melissa KircherWebsiteInstagramTwitterTicktokThe Enneagram InstituteType 5Awareness to ActionType 5The Narrative EnneagramType 5Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification ProgramMario Sikora: IG: @mariosikoraTikTok: @mariosikoraWeb: mariosikora.comSubstack: mariosikora.substack.comMaria Jose Munita: IG: @mjmunitaWeb: mjmunita.comPodcasts:Awareness to Action Enneagram in a MovieThe Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/Christopher Copeland:Web: illuminatingpaths.comNarrative Podcasts:Heart of the EnneagramThe Somatic EnneagramFrom Armor to EaseThe Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott: Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.comMichael Naylor:Web - enneagrammaine.comYou Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews—Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans—Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership CommunityCo-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey MarksProduction/Editing: Liminal PodcastsFollow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdmThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Transcribe →A Preview of IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
May 14, 202500:54:57Tap to summarizeIn this special collaborative episode with Do It for The Gram, the International Enneagram Association Podcast and Fathoms, Milton Stewart is joined by Seth “Creek” Creekmore, Lindsey Marks and Lee Fields as they preview the upcoming IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 - Global Conference and Celebration. All four hosts will be in attendance, so they share what they are looking forward to at this summer’s annual event while also reflecting on this year’s theme — 30 years honoring Enneagram pioneers and future frontiers.The Fathoms team will continue to host the IEA podcast with the traditional long form interviews with legendary figures as well as collect personal stories from attendees to deeply humanize this work. In their current Season Five, Fathoms has been focusing on the history of the Enneagram from the perspective of different schools and models to get a fuller picture of how they’ve come into this tool, providing an important and better framework and grounding before the conference.Milton's Links and Handles:Join KCEP Program: kaizen-enneagram-community.mn.coThe B.I.G. Enneagram Retreat: bigenneagramretreat.simvoly.com/applicationMilton's Website: KaizenCareers.comUpcoming Events: kaizencareers.com/upcoming-eventsIEA Links:IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.comIEA Podcast: international-enneagram.captivate.fmConnect with Creek:Instagram: @_creekmorePod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastPod: Awareness to Action Enneagram PodcastPod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. BConnect with Lindsey:IG: @lindseyfaithdmPod: Fathoms | An Enneagram PodcastConnect with Lee:Web: enneagrammatic.comIG: @enneagrammaticAwareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification ProgramMario Sikora: IG: @mariosikoraTikTok: @mariosikoraWeb: mariosikora.comSubstack: mariosikora.substack.comMaria Jose Munita: IG: @mjmunitaWeb: mjmunita.comPodcasts:Awareness to Action Enneagram in a MovieThe Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/Christopher Copeland:Web: illuminatingpaths.comNarrative Podcasts:Heart of the EnneagramThe Somatic EnneagramFrom Armor to EaseThe Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott: Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.comMichael Naylor:Web - enneagrammaine.comYou Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews—Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans—Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership CommunityCo-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey MarksProduction/Editing: Liminal PodcastsFollow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdmThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Transcribe →Type 4: The Longing for Depth, Authenticity, and Uniqueness
May 8, 202502:32:34Tap to summarizeThe focal point of this podcast episode revolves around the exploration of Enneagram Type Four, often perceived as the individualistic or romantic type, characterized by a profound longing for identity and uniqueness. Our discussion delves into the complexities of the emotional landscape of Fours, emphasizing their capacity for creativity and introspection, as well as the challenges they face with feelings of inadequacy and longing for connection. Throughout the episode, we engage in a rigorous examination of how Fours navigate their emotional depths and the societal perceptions that often label them as overly sensitive or melancholic. The insights offered by our guests illuminate the paradoxes inherent in the Four's journey—balancing the pursuit for meaning with the acceptance of the mundane aspects of life. Ultimately, we aim to foster a deeper understanding of Type Fours, inviting listeners to appreciate the rich and nuanced experiences that define this unique personality type.Human Interview: Stephanie SpencerWEBSITEstephaniejspencer.comBOOKSOut of the Box & Into the Wild: An Enneagram Journey Through the Triads of NatureBeyond Your NumberAwareness to ActionType 4The Enneagram InstituteType 4The Narrative EnneagramType 4Jerry Seinfeld on writers blockAwareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification ProgramMario Sikora: IG: @mariosikoraTikTok: @mariosikoraWeb: mariosikora.comSubstack: mariosikora.substack.comMaria Jose Munita: IG: @mjmunitaWeb: mjmunita.comPodcasts:Awareness to Action Enneagram in a MovieThe Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/Christopher Copeland:Web: illuminatingpaths.comNarrative Podcasts:Heart of the EnneagramThe Somatic EnneagramFrom Armor to EaseThe Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott: Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.comMichael Naylor:Web - enneagrammaine.comYou Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews—Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans—Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership CommunityCo-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey MarksProduction/Editing: Liminal PodcastsFollow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdmThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Transcribe →Type 3: The Pursuit of Success, Identity, and Value
Apr 24, 202501:26:55Tap to summarizeThis podcast episode delves into the complexities of the Enneagram Type 3, also known as "The Achiever." We explore the dichotomy of striving for excellence while grappling with the inherent anxieties of performance and recognition. A special guest, Vanessa Fernandez, shares her personal journey in understanding her threeness, articulating the challenges of balancing ambition with authenticity. Throughout the discussion, we highlight the often-overlooked emotional depth and relational dynamics of Type 3 individuals, emphasizing that their drive for success is not merely superficial but deeply intertwined with their sense of self-worth. As we navigate these themes, we encourage listeners to reflect on their own experiences and perceptions surrounding achievement and recognition.HUMAN INTERVIEW: Vanessa FernandezWEBSITEEnneagramworkshop.comPODCASTThe Enneagram Workshop PodcastThe Enneagram InstituteType 3The Narrative EnneagramType 3Awareness to ActionType 3Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification ProgramMario Sikora: IG: @mariosikoraTikTok: @mariosikoraWeb: mariosikora.comSubstack: mariosikora.substack.comMaria Jose Munita: IG: @mjmunitaWeb: mjmunita.comPodcasts:Awareness to Action Enneagram in a MovieThe Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/Christopher Copeland:Web: illuminatingpaths.comNarrative Podcasts:Heart of the EnneagramThe Somatic EnneagramFrom Armor to EaseThe Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott: Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.comMichael Naylor:Web - enneagrammaine.comYou Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews—Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans—Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership CommunityCo-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey MarksProduction/Editing: Liminal PodcastsFollow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdmThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
Transcribe →Type 2: The Heartfelt Drive to Give, Support, and Connect
Apr 10, 202501:39:05Tap to summarizeThe primary focus of this podcast episode revolves around the exploration of Enneagram Type 2, often referred to as "the Helper." We delve into the intricacies of this type, examining the motivations that drive individuals characterized by this type to seek connection and affirmation through their relationships with others. In particular, we scrutinize the potential for mistyping, as Type 2s may exhibit traits that overlap with other Enneagram types, such as Sevens and Nines, leading to confusion in self-identification. The conversation further highlights the emotional nuances and inherent challenges faced by Type 2s, including the struggle with boundaries and the tendency to prioritize others' needs over their own. Throughout our discourse, we aim to provide listeners with a deeper understanding of the complexities of Type 2, offering insights that may facilitate personal growth and interpersonal dynamics.Human Interview: Hunter MobleyLetting Go, Finding You: Uncover Your Truest Self through the Enneagram and ContemplationForty Days on Being a Two The Narrative Enneagram - Type 2The Enneagram Institute - Type 2Awareness to Action - Type 2Awareness to ActionEnneagram on Demand - Certification ProgramMario Sikora: IG: @mariosikoraTikTok: @mariosikoraWeb: mariosikora.comSubstack: mariosikora.substack.comMaria Jose Munita: IG: @mjmunitaWeb: mjmunita.comPodcasts:Awareness to Action Enneagram in a MovieThe Narrative TraditionTerry Saracino:Web: https://www.narrativeenneagram.org/team/terry-saracino/Christopher Copeland:Web: illuminatingpaths.comNarrative Podcasts:Heart of the EnneagramThe Somatic EnneagramFrom Armor to EaseThe Enneagram InstituteGayle Scott: Email - gayle@enneagrammysteryschool.comMichael Naylor:Web - enneagrammaine.comYou Tube - Enneagram Maine Interviews—Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: Serious Growth for Unserious Humans—Help Fathoms, By Supporting Us Here: Fathoms Membership CommunityCo-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey MarksProduction/Editing: Liminal PodcastsFollow us on Instagram: @fathoms.enneagramFollow Abram: @integratedenneagramFollow Creek: @_creekmoreFollow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdmThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
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