Podcast
Fearless & Forty
Hosted by Susan Norgren · EN
Fearless & Forty is a podcast hosted by two best friends embracing the challenges and triumphs of midlife. From the ups and downs of motherhood, marriage, and friendship to navigating career shifts and personal growth, we share our honest, unfiltered conversations about the journey of being a woman in her 40s. Join us as we laugh, reflect, and explore where we want to go next in this exciting new chapter of life. Whether you’re looking for inspiration or just a relatable conversation, Fearless & Forty is here for you!
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Episode 37: Through Her Eyes
3w ago00:18:56Tap to summarizeAfter taking a little break from recording, Katie is back for a special Mother’s Day episode — and this time, she’s joined by her almost 13-year-old daughter, Lillian. What began as an idea to interview her own mom turned into something even more meaningful: a real, unfiltered conversation between a mother and daughter in the middle of that bittersweet season where childhood starts blending into independence. Together they talk about growing up, motherhood, favorite memories, things moms worry about, what daughters wish moms understood, and what it’s like navigating the almost-teen years together. There are laughs, honest moments, a little emotion, and all the beauty that comes with watching your child become their own person. This episode is for the moms holding on tight while learning to let go, for the daughters growing up too fast, and for anyone reflecting on the relationships that shape us most. Happy Mother’s Day from Fearless & 40 💛
Transcribe →Episode 36: Welcome to 40, Unplug & Be Present
Feb 1901:03:58Tap to summarizeThis week we’re welcoming a very special guest — our dear friend (and newest member of the 40 Club!) Calley. She recently celebrated her milestone birthday with a dreamy trip to Miraval Arizona, and we got to sit down with her for a true pour-at-four style catch-up. Calley shares how it feels to step into 40, what’s shifting for her, and why this season already feels different in the best ways. Then she takes us through her Miraval birthday adventure — morning yoga, a cooking class, a hike through the desert, and even a numerology + crystal session that led us into a whole conversation about year numbers and life path numbers. It’s real, fun, unfiltered girl-chat about midlife, self-care, and choosing experiences that fill you up. And of course, we wrap things up with what we’ve been watching and listening to lately — because some things never change. Grab a drink, settle in, and come hang with us and Calley. This one feels like home. #fearlessand40 #miraval #40thbirthday #wellness For Reference: Miraval Arizona Resort Connect with Calley - feel free to ask her about her trip if you are thinking about booking! Points Talk Podcast - Calley mentions hearing this which inspired her trip Stranger Things Southern Charm The Kardashians The Pitt Shrinking Good Hang Peace Over Perfection Bad Bunny
Transcribe →Episode 35: From Reflection to Momentum: Stepping into the Year of the Horse
Jan 1500:38:36Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Fearless & 40, we’re easing back in after the holiday break and taking a moment to reflect on the past season before stepping into what’s next. We talk about the transition from the Year of the Snake to the Year of the Horse — a shift from reflection and shedding to movement, momentum, and freedom. We share what the last month has looked like for us, how our goals and priorities continue to evolve in midlife, and why forward motion doesn’t have to mean perfection. We also revisit one of our favorite traditions from early on in the podcast — choosing a word of the year — and how it’s guiding us into this new chapter. If you’re craving clarity, alignment, and a gentle push toward what feels right, this episode is for you. Here’s to moving forward with heart. #fearlessand40 #reflection #theyearofthehorse For Reference: Emily in Paris The Mountain House Mini Reni DOC Stranger Things Good Hang Wiser Than Me
Transcribe →Presence, Not Perfection — Our Final Check-In of 2025
Dec 400:06:40Tap to summarizeAs we step into the heart of the holiday season and close out our very first year of Fearless & Forty, Katie hops on the mic for a short, meaningful check-in to wrap up Season One. This episode is a reminder we all need right now: the holidays—and life—aren’t about perfection, they’re about presence. It’s about slowing down enough to notice joy, choosing peace even when the world feels loud, and holding onto hope as we move into a brand new year. Katie reflects on the whirlwind of turning 40, the unexpected growth that came with it, and what it’s meant to share that journey with all of you. She also honors the incredible partnership of her co-host Susan, the support of their families, and the beautiful Fearless & Forty community that has blossomed this year. Thank you for listening, for showing up, for being part of our very first season. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and here’s to everything 2026 has in store. We’ll meet you back here soon, friends #fearlessand40 #midlife #thatsawrap #thankyou
Transcribe →Happy Thanksgiving
Nov 2700:02:54Tap to summarizeA heartfelt Thanksgiving devotional centered on gratitude, family, and the beauty of the people gathered around our table. Inspired by our Divine Detours & Who’s Around Your Table podcast episodes this short reflection reminds us that every seat is filled with purpose—each person representing a story, a blessing, and a piece of God’s grace in our lives. We’ll also draw from Jamie MacDonald’s touching song “My Family,” celebrating the idea that home isn’t just a place—it’s the people who show up, hold us up, and walk with us through every season. This devotional invites us to pause, breathe, and truly see the gift of the faces around us today. It’s a moment to honor our connections, remember God’s goodness, and enter Thanksgiving with full hearts and grateful spirits.
Transcribe →Episode 34: Who's Around Your Table
Nov 2000:47:22Tap to summarizeWith Thanksgiving around the corner, we’re talking about more than just the table you’ll be sitting at next week — we’re talking about the people at your life’s table. In this episode, we unpack the friends, family, and unexpected connections who shape our days, hold space for us, challenge us, and bring gratitude into our lives in ways we don’t always notice. As we move through midlife, we’re realizing our “table” looks different: fewer seats for chaos, more room for peace, and an intentional place for the people who truly see us. We also talk about the open seats — new friendships arriving at the right time — and the courage to gently move someone to the “side table” when a season shifts. It’s all about gratitude, growth, and choosing who you want to sit beside in this chapter of life. #fearlessand40 #midlife #yourtable For Reference: Jen Hatmaker Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 2025 Nobody Wants This Only Murders in the Building Palm Royale Good Hang with Amy Poehler
Transcribe →Episode 33: The Bucket List
Nov 1300:34:33Tap to summarizeWhen you hear the term bucket list, what comes to mind? Big adventures? Once-in-a-lifetime moments? This week, we dive into how the idea of a bucket list has evolved for us in midlife. Sure — Katie still has a few extreme items on hers (yes, skydiving made the cut), but as we talk it through, we realize it’s less about checking off wild experiences and more about living fully in the ways that matter most. Whether it’s picking up a new hobby, revisiting an old passion, or simply finding more joy in the everyday — this episode is all about redefining what a “bucket list” really means. Because maybe the real goal isn’t doing everything before time runs out... it’s doing what fills you up while you’re here. #fearlessand40 #midlife #bucketlist #whatfillsyouup #livinglife For Reference: Nobody Wants This Dawson's Creek Theo of Golden
Transcribe →Episode 32: The Holiday Edition: Our Favs, Traditions & Heartfelt Moments
Nov 600:48:53Tap to summarizeThe holidays are here, and we’re feeling all the festive vibes! In this episode, we’re sharing our favorite Thanksgiving dishes, the traditions that make the season special, and how we’re both refreshing our spaces for Christmas while holding onto the moments that matter most. We also get real about how gift giving looks a little different in midlife — and how to keep the season focused on gratitude, connection, and joy. #fearlessand40 #midlife #holidayseason For Reference: Sanditon Dawson's Creek The Morning Show Bryan Adams Get Your Tickets!
Transcribe →Episode 31: The Evolution of the Modern Mom: From Type A to Type C
Oct 3000:36:30Tap to summarizeThis week we’re diving into the idea of the “Type C Mom” — the mom (or woman) who doesn’t totally fit the Type A or Type B mold, and who’s probably been doing a lot of the quiet heavy lifting. In midlife, the balancing act is real: structure meets spontaneity, career meets presence, doing meets being. We unpack what being Type C looks like, why it matters right now, and how you can use your unique blend as a strength instead of a side note. If you’ve ever thought “I’m not quite one type…” then this one’s for you. Listen in for stories, tools, and a little reassurance that your version of “normal” might just be exactly what freedom looks like. #fearlessand40 #midlife #typecmom For Reference: The Everymom Type C Article Sanditon Theo of Golden The Morning Show Dawson's Creek Armchair Expert Good Hang The Bright Side Golden Hour
Transcribe →Episode 30: Divine Detours
Oct 2300:29:34Tap to summarizeEver had one of those days where your plans completely fell apart — only to realize later it all worked out better than you could’ve imagined? This week on Fearless & 40, we’re talking about Divine Detours — those unexpected shifts, chance encounters, and perfectly-timed moments that remind us the universe always knows what it’s doing. From missed plans to conversations that hit right when we needed them most, Susan and Katie share stories about learning to let go, trust timing, and find meaning in the moments that don’t go according to plan. Because sometimes the universe’s reroute ends up being exactly the path you needed. #fearlessand40 #midlife #divinedetours For Reference: Dawson's Creek Beverly Hills, 90210 The Kelly Clarkson Show Friends Golden Hour Playlist Olivia Dean The Life of a Showgirl Wild Rivers Sarah McLachlan
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